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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-884733</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 04:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>umm...sorry to be a pain in the ass george, but what happened to world trace centre building #7

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6QV6LK8j1Q&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;see footage&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umm&#8230;sorry to be a pain in the ass george, but what happened to world trace centre building #7</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6QV6LK8j1Q" rel="nofollow">see footage</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=884733', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DOYOUSEE</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-882103</link>
		<dc:creator>DOYOUSEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KARMA is america&#039;s {the world&#039;s} only hope,it&#039;s a universal law that is beyond corruption.
American politics are totally corrupt,based on lies repeated enough to brainwash or program it&#039;s dumbed- downed citizens.
INSANE illegal leaders with bombs,thank you empires and religions for raping and murdering the world for profit.
AMERICA= PARIAH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KARMA is america&#8217;s {the world&#8217;s} only hope,it&#8217;s a universal law that is beyond corruption.<br />
American politics are totally corrupt,based on lies repeated enough to brainwash or program it&#8217;s dumbed- downed citizens.<br />
INSANE illegal leaders with bombs,thank you empires and religions for raping and murdering the world for profit.<br />
AMERICA= PARIAH<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=882103', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Gillett &#187; Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-881449</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Gillett &#187; Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On August 21, Bush held a press conference and told the public that wasn&#8217;t true. - Think Progress [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On August 21, Bush held a press conference and told the public that wasn&#8217;t true. &#8211; Think Progress [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=881449', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bdog</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-880943</link>
		<dc:creator>Bdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember when the president used to just lie about blowjobs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember when the president used to just lie about blowjobs<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=880943', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: InChicago</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-877029</link>
		<dc:creator>InChicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I use the InChicago moniker whenever I make comments on New York Times and Washington Post.  To those who have read my comments, it&#039;s the same person.  Second, I&#039;m becoming increasingly convinced that Bush has become increasingly delusional.  Not just disconnected from reality, but has move into his own little world.  In other words, Bush is psychotic.  Cheney on the other hand knows what&#039;s actually going on, but has other plans.  Cheney is an opportunistic and wants to increase the power of the Presidency.  Not so much that he personnally has absolute control, but that his political kin remain in power by any means necessary.

I&#039;ve been pushing the likes of Dan Froomkin to explore Bush&#039;s psychological fragmentation.  However, even he doesn&#039;t seem to what to go there.  I think that he like most journalists fear the publication of even the suggestion that Bush is psychologically on thin ice.  Why, the notion that President might be insane would generate fear among our allies and enemies.  People around the world need to believe that the government is run by people who are at the very least sane.  They can stupid and incompetent - as the members of this Administration have clearly demonstrated.  But, insane - to frightening to contemplate.

However, one person seems to at least suggested that Bush&#039;s psychological condition has reached insanity - Gary Hart.  In a recent speech, he suggested that an attack on Iran is in the making and will take place before the November election.  Only the insane would contemplate such an attack, particularly given the circumstances and the condition of the US military.  If they do launch an attack, then you can be sure that Bush is insane, certifiable.  

The Republican Congress has treated Bush like a spoiled child - indulging his every whim.  This has to change.  Even Republicans are starting to come around to the understanding that their no oversight policy of the Bush Administration has lead to unimaginable disasters both internationally and domestically.  This cannot be allowed to continue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I use the InChicago moniker whenever I make comments on New York Times and Washington Post.  To those who have read my comments, it&#8217;s the same person.  Second, I&#8217;m becoming increasingly convinced that Bush has become increasingly delusional.  Not just disconnected from reality, but has move into his own little world.  In other words, Bush is psychotic.  Cheney on the other hand knows what&#8217;s actually going on, but has other plans.  Cheney is an opportunistic and wants to increase the power of the Presidency.  Not so much that he personnally has absolute control, but that his political kin remain in power by any means necessary.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been pushing the likes of Dan Froomkin to explore Bush&#8217;s psychological fragmentation.  However, even he doesn&#8217;t seem to what to go there.  I think that he like most journalists fear the publication of even the suggestion that Bush is psychologically on thin ice.  Why, the notion that President might be insane would generate fear among our allies and enemies.  People around the world need to believe that the government is run by people who are at the very least sane.  They can stupid and incompetent &#8211; as the members of this Administration have clearly demonstrated.  But, insane &#8211; to frightening to contemplate.</p>
<p>However, one person seems to at least suggested that Bush&#8217;s psychological condition has reached insanity &#8211; Gary Hart.  In a recent speech, he suggested that an attack on Iran is in the making and will take place before the November election.  Only the insane would contemplate such an attack, particularly given the circumstances and the condition of the US military.  If they do launch an attack, then you can be sure that Bush is insane, certifiable.  </p>
<p>The Republican Congress has treated Bush like a spoiled child &#8211; indulging his every whim.  This has to change.  Even Republicans are starting to come around to the understanding that their no oversight policy of the Bush Administration has lead to unimaginable disasters both internationally and domestically.  This cannot be allowed to continue.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=877029', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Bush Awareness Report &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Say republicans&#8230;if you won&#8217;t talk, can we use your tactics to MAKE you?</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-876836</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bush Awareness Report &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Say republicans&#8230;if you won&#8217;t talk, can we use your tactics to MAKE you?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 01:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Think Progress [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TimmyBLOG &#187; links for 2006-09-26</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-876587</link>
		<dc:creator>TimmyBLOG &#187; links for 2006-09-26</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 00:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Think Progress Â» CAUGHT ON TAPE: Bush Ignores Intelligence, Misleads Public On Impact of Iraq on Terrorism (tags: bush video 911 politics) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-876391</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 23:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Freedom Agenda&quot; is the stupidest idea to come down the pike in a long time. Who thought up that idiotic approach to foreing policy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Freedom Agenda&#8221; is the stupidest idea to come down the pike in a long time. Who thought up that idiotic approach to foreing policy?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=876391', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Trenchy Wench</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-875618</link>
		<dc:creator>Trenchy Wench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 21:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theory?!  He thinks this is a theory?!  What happened to the word &quot;intelligence,&quot; as in official reports from the intelligence community he so values?  I guess that&#039;s only when the reports support his twisted logic. 

The thinking American public has its own Freedom Agenda and the countdown is equal to the number of days this nimrod has left in office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theory?!  He thinks this is a theory?!  What happened to the word &#8220;intelligence,&#8221; as in official reports from the intelligence community he so values?  I guess that&#8217;s only when the reports support his twisted logic. </p>
<p>The thinking American public has its own Freedom Agenda and the countdown is equal to the number of days this nimrod has left in office.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=875618', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: AION</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-875413</link>
		<dc:creator>AION</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anytime the Bush Admin hides reports it is because they are not favorable to the Bush Admin. Lets take the 9/11 commission report, Bush did all he could to stall it, then he held Cheneys hand during that process then when the final report was released some 27 pages were redacted.

The same thing here, even if it is publicly released it will be redacted in the same manner as the 9/11 report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anytime the Bush Admin hides reports it is because they are not favorable to the Bush Admin. Lets take the 9/11 commission report, Bush did all he could to stall it, then he held Cheneys hand during that process then when the final report was released some 27 pages were redacted.</p>
<p>The same thing here, even if it is publicly released it will be redacted in the same manner as the 9/11 report.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=875413', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Grouchy&#8217;s Liberaltopia &#187; Release the NIE Before the Election</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-875260</link>
		<dc:creator>Grouchy&#8217;s Liberaltopia &#187; Release the NIE Before the Election</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Watch Bush lie about it here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Watch Bush lie about it here. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=875260', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pariah</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-875253</link>
		<dc:creator>pariah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure there&#039;s enough here for this to be a big-seller.  I don&#039;t know what question was asked of Bush, but his answer makes it clear that he&#039;s not really addressing the issue of whether or not the invasion has made things worse; he&#039;s only saying that things weren&#039;t &lt;em&gt;perfect&lt;/em&gt; before we invaded.  That may be a case of answering the question you wanted rather than the one that you were asked, but it gives him wiggle room.

Obviously, I hope the NIE story gets traction.  I just don&#039;t know how much of a smoking gun this video is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure there&#8217;s enough here for this to be a big-seller.  I don&#8217;t know what question was asked of Bush, but his answer makes it clear that he&#8217;s not really addressing the issue of whether or not the invasion has made things worse; he&#8217;s only saying that things weren&#8217;t <em>perfect</em> before we invaded.  That may be a case of answering the question you wanted rather than the one that you were asked, but it gives him wiggle room.</p>
<p>Obviously, I hope the NIE story gets traction.  I just don&#8217;t know how much of a smoking gun this video is.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=875253', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Amy1022</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-875228</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy1022</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it be nice to see the Bush Administration substitute war waging for more humanitarian development efforts in his &quot;freedom agenda&quot; for the Middle East?  Working towards the UN Millenium Goals in the region would offer a more lasting solution in creating stability in the Middle East.

According to The Borgen Project&#039;s website, &quot;A comprehensive U.S. strategy to counter terrorism should include economic policies that encourage development, more open societies, and opportunities for people to improve the lives of their families and to enhance prospects for their childrenâ€™s future.&quot;

See www.borgenproject.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be nice to see the Bush Administration substitute war waging for more humanitarian development efforts in his &#8220;freedom agenda&#8221; for the Middle East?  Working towards the UN Millenium Goals in the region would offer a more lasting solution in creating stability in the Middle East.</p>
<p>According to The Borgen Project&#8217;s website, &#8220;A comprehensive U.S. strategy to counter terrorism should include economic policies that encourage development, more open societies, and opportunities for people to improve the lives of their families and to enhance prospects for their childrenâ€™s future.&#8221;</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.borgenproject.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.borgenproject.org</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=875228', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pksim</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-875184</link>
		<dc:creator>pksim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Progressives need to go bananas over this, for the simple reason that emotion will compel media coverage more than any reasonable argument.  Witness the blanket coverage Clinton got for blowing his top on Fox.  The net effect of our clamor will be to focus attention on the administration&#039;s efforts to &quot;hide&quot; the report.  Then, whether it is released or not, the story will be what we want it to be:  endless press repetition and dissection of the proposition that THE WAR ON TERROR IS BEING BUNGLED BY THE REPUBLICANS AND WE ARE LESS SAFE.  

Remember Plamegate!  It&#039;s the metastory, stupid!  In that case:  Bush lied us into Iraq.  

In this case:  THE WAR ON TERROR IS BEING BUNGLED BY THE REPUBLICANS AND WE ARE LESS SAFE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Progressives need to go bananas over this, for the simple reason that emotion will compel media coverage more than any reasonable argument.  Witness the blanket coverage Clinton got for blowing his top on Fox.  The net effect of our clamor will be to focus attention on the administration&#8217;s efforts to &#8220;hide&#8221; the report.  Then, whether it is released or not, the story will be what we want it to be:  endless press repetition and dissection of the proposition that THE WAR ON TERROR IS BEING BUNGLED BY THE REPUBLICANS AND WE ARE LESS SAFE.  </p>
<p>Remember Plamegate!  It&#8217;s the metastory, stupid!  In that case:  Bush lied us into Iraq.  </p>
<p>In this case:  THE WAR ON TERROR IS BEING BUNGLED BY THE REPUBLICANS AND WE ARE LESS SAFE.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=875184', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: BellBoy Benevolence &#187; Bush&#8217;s Freedom Agenda</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-875096</link>
		<dc:creator>BellBoy Benevolence &#187; Bush&#8217;s Freedom Agenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Grumpasaurus.com &#187; The NIE, Bush, and Terrorism</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-875086</link>
		<dc:creator>Grumpasaurus.com &#187; The NIE, Bush, and Terrorism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a surprise to anyone paying attention that Iraq has lead to an increase in terrorism and risk to the US or that the Cheney administration ignores, distorts, and lies about that data all the time.  In April, President Bush received the National Intelligence Estimate, which â€œrepresents a consensus view of the 16 separate spy services inside government.â€ NIEs are â€œthe most authoritative documents that the intelligence community producesâ€¦and are approved by John D. Negroponte, director of national intelligence.â€ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a surprise to anyone paying attention that Iraq has lead to an increase in terrorism and risk to the US or that the Cheney administration ignores, distorts, and lies about that data all the time.  In April, President Bush received the National Intelligence Estimate, which â€œrepresents a consensus view of the 16 separate spy services inside government.â€ NIEs are â€œthe most authoritative documents that the intelligence community producesâ€¦and are approved by John D. Negroponte, director of national intelligence.â€ [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=875086', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-875042</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You know, Iâ€™ve heard this theory about everything was just fine until we arrived, and kind of â€œweâ€™re going to stir up the hornetâ€™s nestâ€ theory. It just doesnâ€™t hold water, as far as Iâ€™m concerned. The terrorists attacked us and killed 3,000 of our citizens before we started the freedom agenda in the Middle East.&quot;

I&#039;m still waiting for a proper answer to the hornet&#039;s nest question....

An airhead is someone who lives in a fog and conflates a lot of different ideas. Bush is an airhead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You know, Iâ€™ve heard this theory about everything was just fine until we arrived, and kind of â€œweâ€™re going to stir up the hornetâ€™s nestâ€ theory. It just doesnâ€™t hold water, as far as Iâ€™m concerned. The terrorists attacked us and killed 3,000 of our citizens before we started the freedom agenda in the Middle East.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still waiting for a proper answer to the hornet&#8217;s nest question&#8230;.</p>
<p>An airhead is someone who lives in a fog and conflates a lot of different ideas. Bush is an airhead.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=875042', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dr.+Eisenhower</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/25/bush-hornets-nest/comment-page-2/#comment-875032</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.+Eisenhower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#48

Big Papa - I see the problem as even bigger than the one you present. 

They did not &lt;strong&gt;want to know &lt;/strong&gt;anything different.  

That begs a horrible question. 

What is the motivation for intentionally ignoring key intelligence and going to war anyway? 

There is no motivation that is reasonable enough to legitamize this type of behaviour. 

This goes beyond the sub-par IQ issue. It goes straight to dereliction and negligence in their responsibility to the soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan as well (troops in Afghanistan have to deal with resources poached from them to support the guys in Iraq).</description>
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<p>Big Papa &#8211; I see the problem as even bigger than the one you present. </p>
<p>They did not <strong>want to know </strong>anything different.  </p>
<p>That begs a horrible question. </p>
<p>What is the motivation for intentionally ignoring key intelligence and going to war anyway? </p>
<p>There is no motivation that is reasonable enough to legitamize this type of behaviour. </p>
<p>This goes beyond the sub-par IQ issue. It goes straight to dereliction and negligence in their responsibility to the soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan as well (troops in Afghanistan have to deal with resources poached from them to support the guys in Iraq).<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=875032', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ahab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>--pseudolus@ 43: &quot;Plutocratic Kleptocracy&quot; - That&#039;s some fine wordsmithing you got there. 

Whatever happened to the &quot;conspiracy&quot; that all this was a cover for Bush leading some old forseen holy war against the Muslims? Those guys seem to have fallen off most of the blog sites. It could be he&#039;s just lining his pocket as well as his coffers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211;pseudolus@ 43: &#8220;Plutocratic Kleptocracy&#8221; &#8211; That&#8217;s some fine wordsmithing you got there. </p>
<p>Whatever happened to the &#8220;conspiracy&#8221; that all this was a cover for Bush leading some old forseen holy war against the Muslims? Those guys seem to have fallen off most of the blog sites. It could be he&#8217;s just lining his pocket as well as his coffers.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=875005', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dr.+Eisenhower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.+Eisenhower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#47

God had nothing to do with this. 

The difference is that when Andrea Yates claimed God told her to sacrifice her kids - the citizens of the U.S. - specifically Texas - had to decide between jail or an insane asylum to treat an apparently very aggressive case of post partum depression.

I think the citizens of the U.S. are slowly starting to come around to see G.W. Bush for what he really is. 


#46

Thanks for the kind words.

Evidence of good intelligence is all over the place.

This is a Feb. 2003 report from Judith Miller to PBS (before her troubles began later in 2003 or 2004)



&quot;JIM LEHRER: Judy Miller, welcome. 

JUDITH MILLER: Hi. How are you, Jim? 

JIM LEHRER: Just fine. What&#039;s the most important thing to come out of the meeting? 

JUDITH MILLER: I think what we&#039;ve really seen is the &lt;strong&gt;Iraqi opposition &lt;/strong&gt;finally coming into its own. These people understand that this is the endgame, that this is their moment, that they have to make a cogent, coherent statement, they have to have people believe them, and they have to walk a very fine line between asserting their independence, not being America&#039;s pawns, and yet still not angering the country to which they&#039;re going to owe the liberation of their country. 

JIM LEHRER: &lt;strong&gt;Have they pretty much accepted the fact that the United States is going to run the country for a while, at least after the removal of Saddam Hussein? Are they accepting that?&lt;/strong&gt;
JUDITH MILLER: &lt;strong&gt;You know, they really haven&#039;t accepted it. And I think the message that has come out of here is that, &quot;You don&#039;t want to do that, America. You don&#039;t want to become the colonial occupiers. You need, from the very beginning, some Iraqi faces to tell other Iraqis who&#039;ve just been liberated that this is not an occupation.&quot; &lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;And they&#039;ve delivered that message very strongly to Zalmay Khalilzad, who is President Bush&#039;s representative &lt;/strong&gt;who traveled here at great difficulty to kind of reassure the opposition. Now they are telling him privately, not publicly, that America can&#039;t go it alone, that the Iraqi opposition has to be there from the beginning.&quot;


Many of the Republicans, conservatives, right wingers, whatevers try to reduce this to a &quot;Saddam was bad, how can you say removing Saddam was wrong&quot; argument. 

This, of course, is a bit of straw-man argument. As you just read, even the guys who wanted Saddam gone where very mindful as to &lt;strong&gt;how &lt;/strong&gt;it should be done. 

&quot;Special Representative&quot; to G.W. Bush, Zalmay Khalilzad, was told this in no uncertain terms. 

So Bush didn&#039;t read the intelligence reports and he didn&#039;t listen to his &quot;Special Representative,&quot;  either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#47</p>
<p>God had nothing to do with this. </p>
<p>The difference is that when Andrea Yates claimed God told her to sacrifice her kids &#8211; the citizens of the U.S. &#8211; specifically Texas &#8211; had to decide between jail or an insane asylum to treat an apparently very aggressive case of post partum depression.</p>
<p>I think the citizens of the U.S. are slowly starting to come around to see G.W. Bush for what he really is. </p>
<p>#46</p>
<p>Thanks for the kind words.</p>
<p>Evidence of good intelligence is all over the place.</p>
<p>This is a Feb. 2003 report from Judith Miller to PBS (before her troubles began later in 2003 or 2004)</p>
<p>&#8220;JIM LEHRER: Judy Miller, welcome. </p>
<p>JUDITH MILLER: Hi. How are you, Jim? </p>
<p>JIM LEHRER: Just fine. What&#8217;s the most important thing to come out of the meeting? </p>
<p>JUDITH MILLER: I think what we&#8217;ve really seen is the <strong>Iraqi opposition </strong>finally coming into its own. These people understand that this is the endgame, that this is their moment, that they have to make a cogent, coherent statement, they have to have people believe them, and they have to walk a very fine line between asserting their independence, not being America&#8217;s pawns, and yet still not angering the country to which they&#8217;re going to owe the liberation of their country. </p>
<p>JIM LEHRER: <strong>Have they pretty much accepted the fact that the United States is going to run the country for a while, at least after the removal of Saddam Hussein? Are they accepting that?</strong><br />
JUDITH MILLER: <strong>You know, they really haven&#8217;t accepted it. And I think the message that has come out of here is that, &#8220;You don&#8217;t want to do that, America. You don&#8217;t want to become the colonial occupiers. You need, from the very beginning, some Iraqi faces to tell other Iraqis who&#8217;ve just been liberated that this is not an occupation.&#8221; </strong></p>
<p><strong>And they&#8217;ve delivered that message very strongly to Zalmay Khalilzad, who is President Bush&#8217;s representative </strong>who traveled here at great difficulty to kind of reassure the opposition. Now they are telling him privately, not publicly, that America can&#8217;t go it alone, that the Iraqi opposition has to be there from the beginning.&#8221;</p>
<p>Many of the Republicans, conservatives, right wingers, whatevers try to reduce this to a &#8220;Saddam was bad, how can you say removing Saddam was wrong&#8221; argument. </p>
<p>This, of course, is a bit of straw-man argument. As you just read, even the guys who wanted Saddam gone where very mindful as to <strong>how </strong>it should be done. </p>
<p>&#8220;Special Representative&#8221; to G.W. Bush, Zalmay Khalilzad, was told this in no uncertain terms. </p>
<p>So Bush didn&#8217;t read the intelligence reports and he didn&#8217;t listen to his &#8220;Special Representative,&#8221;  either.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=874975', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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