CAUGHT ON TAPE: Cheney ‘Can’t Buy’ Idea That Iraq War Is Creating More Terrorists
CAUGHT ON TAPE: Cheney ‘Can’t Buy’ Idea That Iraq War Is Creating More Terrorists
President Bush isn’t the only one who ignored the findings of the NIE that “the American invasion and occupation of Iraq has helped spawn a new generation of Islamic radicalism.” Vice President Cheney did too.
On the September 10, 2006 broadcast of Meet the Press, Tim Russert presented Cheney with a CBS/New York Times poll that said the majority of Americans agree with the intelligence community’s assessment that our actions overseas are creating more terrorists. “I can’t buy that,” Cheney responded. Watch it.
RUSSERT: Here’s what the American people said in a recent poll. Is the U.S. involvement in Iraq or Afghanistan creating more terrorists or eliminating terrorists? And look at that. Overwhelmingly, 54 percent, clear majority, believe we are creating more terrorists.
TEXT:
U.S. INVOLVEMENT IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN
CREATING MORE TERRORISTS 54%
ELIMINATING TERRORISTS 15%
The New York Times CBS/Poll
CHENEY: I, I, I can’t buy that.
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What the Administration “believes” is not necessarily backed up by any evidence.
Or if there is evidence, it is manufactured or cherry picked.
This is not news.
September 25th, 2006 at 11:43 amSomeone: 2 + 2 = 4
Cheney: I, I, I can’t buy that. I dont like facts. Facts have a liberal bias.
September 25th, 2006 at 11:44 amOf course not, it doesn’t jive with his “truth.”
I live out west in a state no one had yet’discovered’, especially my city. Well those damned Californians kept coming and then the floodgates opened. Now I can deny it all I want, but my city’s population has doubled, and they’re still coming.
September 25th, 2006 at 11:45 amCheney is a fool. He is living in a dream world. 54% of the American people say it is creating more terrorist.
September 25th, 2006 at 11:46 amTo be fair, he’s disagreeing with the poll results, not with the assertion that our involvement in Iraq is creating more terrorists.
September 25th, 2006 at 11:46 am“To be fair, he’s disagreeing with the poll results, not with the assertion that our involvement in Iraq is creating more terrorists.”
Are you dizzy yet?
September 25th, 2006 at 11:48 amI cant buy that? What exactly does that phrase mean? Does it mean flat out I dont believe it? Clearly he doesnt want to believe it. This kind of sums up the whole administration’s view of reality anymore. I cant buy that, so I’ll buy something else, namely, propaganda and disinformation and throw that out there.
Dont you think these people should be reading the NIEs back to front, or at least have a staffer give them good cliffnotes? I mean, this stuff is sort of important, innit?
If they arent reading, they are negligent in their duties, and if they are, they are willfully misleading the public, well, at least trying, since we aint buying it. Ha.
Idiots. No wonder they are working so hard on their legal defenses for when the Republicans are booted out of office.
September 25th, 2006 at 11:49 amDick and Tim are next-door neighbours. (IIRC)
September 25th, 2006 at 11:50 am#5: If you look at the transcript, Cheney does not question the poll’s results or its methodology. Instead, he argues the administration’s policy has made America safer. He says, “I, I, I can’t buy that. I mean, I think you’ve got to look what’s happening in Afghanistan and Iraq in terms of the – where we were five years ago and where we are today.” And where we are five years later was nicely summed up by the NIE.
September 25th, 2006 at 11:51 amCheney is disagreeing with both. If he agreed that our involvement in Iraq is creating more terrorists then he would have to admit that the Republican invasion and occupation of Iraq has been a miserable failure. Has he done that?
September 25th, 2006 at 11:53 amit’s all boilerplate from rove’s latest talking points…
johnny-boy, YOU are the director of national intelligence… it even says so, right there in black and white, in that organ of truth and intrepid reporting, the washington post… those 16 intelligence agencies that agree the iraq war is INCREASING terror are ostensibly under YOU… what can we conclude from your quote and that very well-spun wapo headline but that INCREASING terror qualifies as a SUCCESS…?
And, yes, I DO take it personally
September 25th, 2006 at 11:55 amEvilVornbread, I’m not sure how much it matters. If the poll numbers were closer, he might be able to shrug ‘em off like that. But 54-15? At that point it ain’t a matter of “buying”. This is fingers-in-his-ears-la-la-la posturing.
(They don’t give the MOE, but really, with a spread like that they don’t really need to.)
September 25th, 2006 at 11:59 amHe can’t “buy” it?
One would think that, with all the $$$$ he’s made from Haliburton’s war profiteering, he could buy damn near anything he wants.
Well, except for a clue. That seems to be out of his price range …
September 25th, 2006 at 11:59 amWe’re fed different info. THis site details the differences in media coverage of the intelligence report linking the US occupation of Iraq to the creation of new terrorists. Interestingly, Red State markets cover the issue with less prominance or not at all.
http://www.miserywatch.com/2006/09/to_us_this_was_.html
September 25th, 2006 at 12:01 pm#11 …only “a fraction of judgements” …
Isn’t 9/10 a fraction?
September 25th, 2006 at 12:02 pmYou don’t have to buy it, Dick. You already own it.
September 25th, 2006 at 12:16 pmAnd if he is asked about the new NIE report, he will just say that he hasn’t seen it, or read it…yet.
September 25th, 2006 at 12:31 pmThis is the surest sign of failed management: The hiring of a well-funded, qualified, professional, and largely impartial staff to provide clear answers — that are then ignored in favor of previous assumptions.
Neocons should separate their politics from their professional philosophy at this point; copying their methods will sink your ship.
September 25th, 2006 at 12:33 pmI think you nailed it, profmarcus — they see it as a success because they only know how to govern using the politics of fear. Thus, the more terrorism they create, the more they can reassure us that they’re keeping us safe.
It’s a viscious cycle …
September 25th, 2006 at 12:36 pmCheney has been working for the oil and defense industries for decades. How could anyone expect him to serve our interests in the White House? He’s got the permanent bases in Iraq now to guard all that oil. Even if the fighting in Iraq drags on for years, the American taxpayer and the U.S. military will keep the oil flowing. Cheney’s first allegiance is to oil and defense, and he’s serving their interests admirably.
September 25th, 2006 at 12:37 pmThis is a good development. Never was there clearer evidence of complete dissociation from reality. Remove that man from any position of power and/or responsibility.
September 25th, 2006 at 12:41 pmMr. Cheney “can’t buy that”? Earth to Cheney: reality ain’t for sale. This pathetic administration is obviously in its last throes… Six short weeks till Election Day and a little feedback from us citizens in the peanut gallery…
September 25th, 2006 at 12:58 pmCheers.
when “his dog dick” says he can’t buy it, it means he can’t profit from it.
when the war crimes trials are over, we the people, can take all their money back to benefit the people of this country. 300 billion and counting in iraq that we will get back from the people that profited on the war, for they are the war criminals too.
September 25th, 2006 at 1:00 pmwell put, tablogloid, well put. every democrat in this fall’s election should put this clip on the air. just shows how out of touch the administration is. like when w says things like “i reject your assertion” (actually he would only say “i reject that” – what was i thinking assuming he’d use words like ‘assertion’) when the truth is pointed out to him. itmfa!!!
September 25th, 2006 at 1:00 pmMary Poplins # 4
Cheney is NO fool…
…his supporters are the fools…
…ad those of us honest, patriotic, tax paying working poor and middle class American citizens are fools…
…but Cheney is NO fool…
…he’s getting paid (along with ALL of the Bush cronies) to “NOT BUY” the NIE…
…obfuscation, misinformation and redirection is the criminal Bushite junta’s modus operandi…
…the $300 billion dollar question remains…
…do they get away with it?
September 25th, 2006 at 1:54 pmThe Bush administration continues living in its own fantasy world, ignoring reality. It takes a special kind of idiot to support this administration.
September 25th, 2006 at 2:03 pmoldtree #23
I’m with you…
…I hope we impeach, arrest, prosecute, confiscate all of their assets (and their families’), then ship them to the Hague tribunal for war crimes…
…I’d also like to use the Patriot Act to hunt down all right wing racist, confederate, war profiteering, corporate traitors…
…THEN the rest of us can get on with the business of making an America our forefathers…
…(NOT necessarily the racist slave holding “FOUNDING” fathers)…
…would be proud of…
September 25th, 2006 at 2:13 pmHERE IS WHAT HE DID BUY: THE NUCLEAR CARD: The Aluminum Tube Story — A special report.; How White House Embraced Suspect Iraq Arms Intelligence
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DISPLAYING ABSTRACT – Bush administration brushed aside doubts of its foremost nuclear experts in leadup to war with Iraq when it embraced theory that high-strength aluminum tubes being acquired by Iraq were part of Saddam Hussein’s program to develop nuclear weapons; Vice Pres Dick Cheney would go on to argue ‘with absolute certainty’ that tubes were intended for uranium centrifuge despite considerable evidence supporting alternative theory that they were in fact rocket parts; centrifuge idea was first championed by junior CIA analyst in April 2001, and momentum gathered behind it built on pattern of haste, secrecy, ambiguity, bureaucratic maneuver and persistent failure in Bush administration and in Congress to ask hard questions; tube episode is case study of intersection between politics of pre-emption and inherent ambiguity of intelligence; drawings
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September 25th, 2006 at 2:22 pmNext time Mr. Russert interviews dirty, old stinky Dick, he should pull out a microwave oven and offer to “warm-up” his coffee… yes, kids, it’s time for “fun with pacemakers”!
September 25th, 2006 at 2:37 pmIt only goes to show you, just how informed the leaders of the American goverment really are.
September 25th, 2006 at 2:49 pmThey listen to NO ONE. And they never will…
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Right. It doesn’t matter what the PEOPLE say or what they want.
How the hell are they going to make Dick and pals billions?
If it doesn’t have a dollar sign on it, Dick ain’t interested.
September 25th, 2006 at 3:20 pmInteresting how he says “I don’t buy it” , not that he doesn’t accept it or believe it or that there are any factual distortions. It’s about “buying” power.
September 25th, 2006 at 3:52 pmAnd far be it from Cheney to actually read stuff since to do so would mean that he might actually be confronted with the fact that he’s been dead wrong for six years.
September 25th, 2006 at 4:53 pmAmerica’s Least Wanted
Darth Cheney can’t speak without lying.
September 25th, 2006 at 6:14 pmWith all that acid he has for blood, why hasn’t his battery rusted yet?
Even Tweety Matthews said earlier that Cheney hasn’t been right once in 6 years, yet he is given deference. Anyone else would be a laughing stock.
dickie…the truth can’t be bought. The truth is the truth.
September 25th, 2006 at 6:51 pmCheney is DA MAN!!
September 25th, 2006 at 7:20 pmDick, Dick, Dick. You don’t have to buy it, you just have to read it. It’s right there in black ‘n white – the Pres’dent’s favorite colors.
September 26th, 2006 at 12:43 pm[...] On September 10, in an appearance on MSNBC’s Meet the Press, Cheney told the public that wasn’t true. – Think Progress [...]
September 26th, 2006 at 2:17 pmWAR CRIMINAL,LIAR,PROFITEER,TRAITOR,THIEF,TORTURE, and many other things that KARMA will see to….If americans don’t take care of the obscene mess EL DIABLOCO are responsble for.
September 27th, 2006 at 4:27 amThen buy this, Dick: The world despises you, your tactics, your arrogance and idiocy, and moreover, what you’re selling you polyploid, senile jackass, the world is not buying.
How many can I put you down for, Dickles? Somebody sweep this turd off the face of the Earth.
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