It is unfortunate to see how many blog comments and forum posts that instead of focusing on what someone said the discussion turns into an off topic conversation about nothing.

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

I Googled for something completely different, but found your page…and have to say thanks. nice read.

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Falwell is an evil hateful man, and you’re an evil hateful person for tolerating his bad behavior.

I agree that Falwell is a hateful man, but that doesn’t mean that everything that he does or says is hateful. And if we act like everything he says is hateful it blunts our protests when he DOES say something truly hateful.

If you really can’t see the difference between the two statements, well, I don’t know what to say. Falwell has said plenty of terrible stuff, but as I said, this is a joke that could just have easily been said by Jon Stewart. Chavez’s comments would never have been said by Jon Stewart.

Do you at least acknowledge that?

Is it possible this jackoff can go one day without being a total and complete DOUCHEBAG!!!

You right wing extremists CRACK ME UP

You’ve got to be kidding me, I’m a right wing extremist because I don’t think we should be taking seriously a joke made by Falwell that could just as easily have been made by Jon Stewart?

It wasn’t offensive, he wasn’t seriously equating the two. Take a deep breath and quit being such a knee-jerk reactionary.

And for the record I’m a pretty distant throw from being a Republican. “Big Tent” Democrats indeed…

“Lucifer makes his appearance in the fourteenth chapter of the Old Testament book of Isaiah, at the twelfth verse, and nowhere else: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!”

The first problem is that Lucifer is a Latin name. So how did it find its way into a Hebrew manuscript, written before there was a Roman language? To find the answer, I consulted a scholar at the library of the Hebrew Union College in Cincinnati. What Hebrew name, I asked, was Satan given in this chapter of Isaiah, which describes the angel who fell to become the ruler of hell?

The answer was a surprise. In the original Hebrew text, the fourteenth chapter of Isaiah is not about a fallen angel, but about a fallen Babylonian king, who during his lifetime had persecuted the children of Israel. It contains no mention of Satan, either by name or reference. The Hebrew scholar could only speculate that some early Christian scribes, writing in the Latin tongue used by the Church, had decided for themselves that they wanted the story to be about a fallen angel, a creature not even mentioned in the original Hebrew text, and to whom they gave the name “Lucifer.”

Why Lucifer? In Roman astronomy, Lucifer was the name given to the morning star (the star we now know by another Roman name, Venus aka planet of love). The morning star appears in the heavens just before dawn, heralding the rising sun [Duhh]. The name derives from the Latin term lucem ferre, bringer, or bearer, of light.” In the Hebrew text the expression used to describe the Babylonian king before his death is Helal, son of Shahar, which can best be translated as “Day star, son of the Dawn.” The name evokes the golden glitter of a proud king’s dress and court (much as his personal splendor earned for King Louis XIV of France the appellation, “The Sun King”).

The scholars authorized by … King James I to translate the Bible into current English did not use the original Hebrew texts, but used versions translated … largely by St. Jerome in the fourth century. Jerome had mistranslated the Hebraic metaphor, “Day star, son of the Dawn,” as “Lucifer,” and over the centuries a metamorphosis took place. Lucifer the morning star became a disobedient angel, cast out of heaven to rule eternally in hell. Theologians, writers, and poets interwove the myth with the doctrine of the Fall, and in Christian tradition Lucifer is now the same as Satan, the Devil, and — ironically — the Prince of Darkness.

So “Lucifer” is nothing more than an ancient Latin name for the morning star, the bringer of light. That can be confusing for Christians who identify Christ himself as the morning star, a term used as a central theme in many Christian sermons. Jesus refers to himself as the morning star in Revelation 22:16: “I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.”

What Chavez said was typical. The mistake we made was letting him step foot in our country.

McCain has about as much chance of being president as I do.