Comments on: McCain’s macaca moment. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:12:18 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Armando+Gomez http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-910763 Armando+Gomez Sat, 30 Sep 2006 07:09:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-910763 <strong>Sideswiped!</strong> September 29, 2006 The article <strong>“Senate delivers tribunal bill”</strong> by <strong>Kate Zernike </strong>gives America a black eye in its image in advancing the global cause for Democracy. The Senate joined the House in passing an ill-conceived legislation, the Military Commissions Act of 2006 that disregards key human rights protections. This is a crack of doom of our best American traditions. This legislation, in effect, gives its stamp of approval to human rights violations. To begin with this establishes a new judicial system to try a wide variety of people in military commissions that lack the minimal safeguard in denying the accused the right to examine evidence against him. A person can be executed in this flawed system. This also strips an accused “enemy combatant” to file a writ of habeas corpus to challenge his detention. Any prisoner, American or not, can be held in prison indefinitely without a charge or judicial review. Worse, this provides retroactive immunity to those who may have been implicated in creating policies or participating in torture and other inhuman treatment. This is the core for the Miliary Commission Act—to bail out the Bush administration’s involvement in authorizing torture in Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib Prison. Sideswiped!

September 29, 2006

The article “Senate delivers tribunal bill” by Kate Zernike gives America a black eye in its image in advancing the global cause for Democracy. The Senate joined the House in passing an ill-conceived legislation, the Military Commissions Act of 2006 that disregards key human rights protections. This is a crack of doom of our best American traditions. This legislation, in effect, gives its stamp of approval to human rights violations. To begin with this establishes a new judicial system to try a wide variety of people in military commissions that lack the minimal safeguard in denying the accused the right to examine evidence against him. A person can be executed in this flawed system. This also strips an accused “enemy combatant” to file a writ of habeas corpus to challenge his detention. Any prisoner, American or not, can be held in prison indefinitely without a charge or judicial review. Worse, this provides retroactive immunity to those who may have been implicated in creating policies or participating in torture and other inhuman treatment. This is the core for the Miliary Commission Act—to bail out the Bush administration’s involvement in authorizing torture in Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib Prison.

]]> By: keepinon http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-907361 keepinon Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:10:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-907361 I thought Colin Powell's fall was tragic, what I see McCain doing is perhaps the equal. Consider, a Nam vet/prisoner of war, hung out to dry in South Carolina by the GW campaign in 2000. One would think that, if anything, McCain would be a bit more sensitve to political attacks that he apparently is. I forgot to mention his support of torture! Is he still a credible candidate for the GOP nomination in 08? If so, how low can they go? I thought Colin Powell’s fall was tragic, what I see McCain doing is perhaps the equal. Consider, a Nam vet/prisoner of war, hung out to dry in South Carolina by the GW campaign in 2000. One would think that, if anything, McCain would be a bit more sensitve to political attacks that he apparently is. I forgot to mention his support of torture! Is he still a credible candidate for the GOP nomination in 08? If so, how low can they go?

]]> By: wyderp http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-905707 wyderp Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:54:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-905707 this video says it all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DGPbLl4V6g we need to get rid of this racist senator, george allen this video says it all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DGPbLl4V6g
we need to get rid of this racist senator, george allen

]]> By: bill dwyer http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-905686 bill dwyer Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:51:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-905686

]]> By: Jason+Baddo http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-905608 Jason+Baddo Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:35:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-905608 #2 <em>What a pathetic fall from grace for one of our true American heroes</em> No way has this guy ever qualified as a hero. Heroes are imbued with qualities that set them apart from the mainstream. Mc Cain does not have honor, integrity nor has he ever exhibited the courage of his convictions and tell it like it is. #2 What a pathetic fall from grace for one of our true American heroes

No way has this guy ever qualified as a hero. Heroes are imbued with qualities that set them apart from the mainstream. Mc Cain does not have honor, integrity nor has he ever exhibited the courage of his convictions and tell it like it is.

]]> By: Jeremy+Henderson http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-905471 Jeremy+Henderson Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:14:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-905471 Can we please drop the whole "where did the good McCain go? "bull, please? This is the guy who has repeatedly referred to Asians as gooks, right? Why is it a surprise that he would endorse a racist like Allen? Can we please drop the whole “where did the good McCain go? “bull, please?

This is the guy who has repeatedly referred to Asians as gooks, right? Why is it a surprise that he would endorse a racist like Allen?

]]> By: theswan http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-904009 theswan Fri, 29 Sep 2006 12:23:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-904009 Bigotry and torture go hand in hand. One should be surprised to see them holding hands. Bigotry and torture go hand in hand. One should be surprised to see them holding hands.

]]> By: MagickMuffin http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-903181 MagickMuffin Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:33:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-903181 #36 how would you like to punish them, waterbroard, sleep deprivation, loud music? I think some real loud music would be appropriate. ;-P How about Ship of Fools? Ship Of Fools (Save Me From Tomorrow) Lyrics We're setting sail to a place on the map From which no-one has ever returned Drawn by the promise of the joker and the fool By the light of the crosses that burned Drawn by the promise of the wormen and lace And the gold and the cotton and pearls It's the place where they keep all the darkness you need You sail away from the light of the world on this trip, baby You will pay tomorrow You're gonna pay tomorrow You will pay tomorrow Oh, save me, save me from tomorrow I don't want to sail with this Ship of Fools, no, no Oh, save me, save me from tomorrow I don't want to sail with this Ship of Fools I want to run and hide Right now Avarice and greed are gonna drive you over the endless sea They will leave you drifting in the shallows Drowning in the oceans of history Traveling the world, you're in search of no good But I'm sure you'll build your Sodom like you knew you would Using all the good people for your galley slaves As your little boat struggles through the warning waves But you don't, pay You will pay tomorrow You're gonna pay tomorrow You're gonna pay tomorrow Oh, save me, save me from tomorrow I don't want to sail with this Ship of Fools, no, no Oh, save me, save me from tomorrow I don't want to sail with this Ship of Fools, no, no Where's it coming from Oh, Where's it going now It's just a, it's just a Ship of Fools #36 how would you like to punish them, waterbroard, sleep deprivation, loud music?

I think some real loud music would be appropriate. ;-P

How about Ship of Fools?

Ship Of Fools (Save Me From Tomorrow) Lyrics

We’re setting sail to a place on the map
From which no-one has ever returned
Drawn by the promise of the joker and the fool
By the light of the crosses that burned
Drawn by the promise of the wormen and lace
And the gold and the cotton and pearls
It’s the place where they keep all the darkness you need
You sail away from the light of the world on this trip, baby

You will pay tomorrow
You’re gonna pay tomorrow
You will pay tomorrow

Oh, save me, save me from tomorrow
I don’t want to sail with this Ship of Fools, no, no
Oh, save me, save me from tomorrow
I don’t want to sail with this Ship of Fools
I want to run and hide
Right now

Avarice and greed are gonna drive you over the endless sea
They will leave you drifting in the shallows
Drowning in the oceans of history
Traveling the world, you’re in search of no good
But I’m sure you’ll build your Sodom like you knew you would
Using all the good people for your galley slaves
As your little boat struggles through the warning waves
But you don’t, pay

You will pay tomorrow
You’re gonna pay tomorrow
You’re gonna pay tomorrow

Oh, save me, save me from tomorrow
I don’t want to sail with this Ship of Fools, no, no
Oh, save me, save me from tomorrow
I don’t want to sail with this Ship of Fools, no, no

Where’s it coming from
Oh, Where’s it going now
It’s just a, it’s just a Ship of Fools

]]> By: Dick http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-903138 Dick Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:29:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-903138 Aww cmon guys this is a good thing, I mean how many people do you know that listen to Falwell personally, even thru friends of friends. Most people know he's just a profit$$ and not a prophet. <blockquote></blockquote> ]8{|} mooo. Aww cmon guys this is a good thing, I mean how many people do you know that listen to Falwell personally, even thru friends of friends. Most people know he’s just a profit$$ and not a prophet.

]8{|} mooo.

]]> By: keith guerin http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-902117 keith guerin Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:56:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-902117 guess what everybody. THIS IS THE REAL MCCAIN. mccain isnt the hero you think he is, and this isnt some flaw he has made. this is mccains strategy, he plays everyone, and it is all a ploy. guess what everybody. THIS IS THE REAL MCCAIN. mccain isnt the hero you think he is, and this isnt some flaw he has made. this is mccains strategy, he plays everyone, and it is all a ploy.

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-902069 Jay Randal Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:46:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-902069 Post 34 Muffin > thanks for the list of the Dem fools! They all need to be punished with the Republicans who voted YES for torture! Post 34 Muffin > thanks for the list of the Dem fools! They all need to be punished with the Republicans who voted YES for torture!

]]> By: BGone http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-901878 BGone Fri, 29 Sep 2006 05:07:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-901878 60% of one group and 80% of the other Suni and Shitite cheer when an American is ambushed and killed in Iraq. These stats tells us that the belief we can remove the bad guys without hurting any good guys is as rediculous as trying to get rid of the Nazis without hurting any Germans. 65% of Americans don't know why but they do know it's a disaster. The term to describe it is half assed, the war in Iraq. We must either start killing Iraqis where we find them, the ones that won't surrender or we have to get hell out on the double. No Republican administration has ever won a significant foreign war. Iraq is no exception to that rule. We shouldn't be there in the first place. Stupid enoguh to go there is not a recomendation for what to do now. We need a liberal Democrat, FDR or Truman type to lead us out of this mess. We are looking at major global conflict with Islam. That's what bin laden wanted and he's won. Bush is a double jerk. Bin Laden said it, he would only attack America if America failed to attack him in Afganistan. 9-11 could have been prevented by simply reading the intellegence reports and taking action in Afganistan where we stood, past tense, a chance to win. 60% of one group and 80% of the other Suni and Shitite cheer when an American is ambushed and killed in Iraq. These stats tells us that the belief we can remove the bad guys without hurting any good guys is as rediculous as trying to get rid of the Nazis without hurting any Germans.

65% of Americans don’t know why but they do know it’s a disaster. The term to describe it is half assed, the war in Iraq. We must either start killing Iraqis where we find them, the ones that won’t surrender or we have to get hell out on the double.

No Republican administration has ever won a significant foreign war. Iraq is no exception to that rule. We shouldn’t be there in the first place. Stupid enoguh to go there is not a recomendation for what to do now. We need a liberal Democrat, FDR or Truman type to lead us out of this mess.

We are looking at major global conflict with Islam. That’s what bin laden wanted and he’s won. Bush is a double jerk. Bin Laden said it, he would only attack America if America failed to attack him in Afganistan. 9-11 could have been prevented by simply reading the intellegence reports and taking action in Afganistan where we stood, past tense, a chance to win.

]]> By: MagickMuffin http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-901775 MagickMuffin Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:49:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-901775 #20 Here's the list you requested. I was really surprised by some of the people names on the list. Tip of the hat to DU, for the list: Carper (Del.) Johnson (S.D.) Landrieu (La.) Lautenberg (N.J.) Lieberman (Conn.) Menendez (N.J) Pryor (Ark.) Rockefeller (W. Va.) Salazar (Co.) Stabenow (Mich.) Nelson (Fla.) Nelson (Neb.) http://comlogic.blogspot.com/ #20 Here’s the list you requested. I was really surprised by some of the people names on the list. Tip of the hat to DU, for the list:
Carper (Del.)
Johnson (S.D.)
Landrieu (La.)
Lautenberg (N.J.)
Lieberman (Conn.)
Menendez (N.J)
Pryor (Ark.)
Rockefeller (W. Va.)
Salazar (Co.)
Stabenow (Mich.)
Nelson (Fla.)
Nelson (Neb.)

http://comlogic.blogspot.com/

]]> By: Dick http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-901364 Dick Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:45:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-901364 The three racistketeers!! The three racistketeers!!

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-901363 WaltTheMan Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:44:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-901363 #23 - Marie, Thanks, I am fed up to the gills with this GOP rhetoric. I just had to vent myself. #23 – Marie,
Thanks, I am fed up to the gills with this GOP rhetoric. I just had to vent myself.

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-901357 Zooey Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:43:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-901357 JPark, Just one of many personalities -- so far the only other one, so don't worry. What the hell, I'm improving my Yiddish! JPark,

Just one of many personalities — so far the only other one, so don’t worry. What the hell, I’m improving my Yiddish!

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-901319 JPark Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:32:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-901319 LOL, Yenta is kinda skerry. LOL, Yenta is kinda skerry.

]]> By: chris http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-901301 chris Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:29:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-901301 mcCain wants to be president... and he's doing whatever he thinks it will take to get him in the oval office Good thing he made sure that if it ever happens, he'll have all the king-like powers he helped his buddy GWB get. mcCain wants to be president… and he’s doing whatever he thinks it will take to get him in the oval office

Good thing he made sure that if it ever happens, he’ll have all the king-like powers he helped his buddy GWB get.

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-901290 Zooey Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:27:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-901290 JPark, See how good I am? It's just pure silliness. No offense taken. Maybe Yenta can fix you up...? JPark,

See how good I am?

It’s just pure silliness. No offense taken.

Maybe Yenta can fix you up…?

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-901274 JPark Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:23:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/28/mccains-macaca-moment/#comment-901274 I am so sorry Zooey. I guess I haven't paid that much attention!!! That was a horrible thing I said. I am so sorry Zooey. I guess I haven’t paid that much attention!!! That was a horrible thing I said.

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