REPORT: Rep. Mark Foley Resigns From Congress, Fears More Emails Exist
REPORT: Rep. Mark Foley Resigns From Congress, Fears More Emails Exist
CNN’s Dana Bash reported just now:
CNN has learned, according to GOP sources, that as you said, Republican Congressman Mark Foley of Florida has decided not to seek reelection. … Foley did admit to a spokesperson that he had that e-mail exchange with the boy, but absolutely flatly denied that that was an inappropriate e-mail exchange. Now, a GOP source tells us now that essentially Foley is worried that there are other potentially politically damaging e-mail or other messages that may be out there and he has concluded that it’s probably best for him not to seek reelection from Florida. That is what we’re told.
Yesterday, ABC News, AmericaBlog, and Raw Story released a series of questionable emails between Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL) and a 16-year-old male page. In the emails, sent from Foley’s personal account, Foley “asks the young man how old he is, what he wants for his birthday and requests a photo of him.” Foley is the founder and co-chair of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children’s Caucus.
ABC News reported earlier today:
ABC News had read excerpts of instant messages provided by former pages who said the congressman, under the AOL Instant Messenger screen name Maf54, made repeated references to sexual organs and acts.
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Let me guess, Rep. Foley has decided to “spend more time with his family.” That excuse really only applies to Charles Manson.
September 29th, 2006 at 3:12 pmOne down, how many more to go?
September 29th, 2006 at 3:13 pmWhat really sucks about this…
There were a couple of good grass-roots progressive Democrats running for the seat in Foley’s district — until Rahm Emanuel and the DCCC drove them out of the race to make room for their own candidate, a millionaire rancher who was a Republican until he was recruited to run as a Democrat.
Thanks to Emanuel, we lost a golden opportunity to get a real Democrat in that seat.
September 29th, 2006 at 3:15 pmYippeeeee! One more down!
September 29th, 2006 at 3:16 pmMaybe I’m stupid, but was he up for re election this November and who is the dem running against him? Who would take his place on the Republican ticket?
September 29th, 2006 at 3:17 pmCNN just reported that he has resigned.
September 29th, 2006 at 3:19 pmFoley is the founder and co-chair of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children’s Caucus
That is the really scary part.
Just another Republican sexual deviant added to the long and growing list.
September 29th, 2006 at 3:23 pmMan, whose list was that the other day? Wayne? Anyway, another one to officially add. What a bunch of sickos.
It’s so creepy….the man has to be educated to be where he is (at least part of the way there anyway) and he writes those in the “language” a teenager. It’s obvious there is nothing professional about those emails. I mean, I am laughing as I type that, because it’s not like anyone believes they were. I can’t get over these people.
September 29th, 2006 at 3:24 pmLike I said in an earlier thread; their party is riddled with freaks.
September 29th, 2006 at 3:25 pmI wouldn’t call you stupid #5, but it was a stupid question. All House seats are up for election every 2 years.
I just wonder if this was considered a “safe” seat for the reich wingers…
September 29th, 2006 at 3:26 pmWhere there’s smoke….maybe Karl can help him out. Hypocrites! Why don’t they embrace their “otherness” Invite Mehlman, Santorum, Limbaugh, and all of the other pent up closet homosexuals, currently GOPing it for legitimacy, to come on out and be FREE…That’s the GOP mantra, Freedom! I just don’t understand why they fear freedom some much and spit such hateful venom at people that truly understand freedom and some of its perils. Foley would rather quit (Yay, one less Republican) that embrace his deep love for underage boys and quite possibly Gladiator movies. Just when you think it couldn’t get any weirder, a GOP member of congress totally derails his pitiful president’s rally the faithful message campaign by propositioning a boy and getting very publicly humiliated. Heh!
September 29th, 2006 at 3:27 pmWhat committee did he head????
September 29th, 2006 at 3:27 pm[...] MSNBC, CNN, and many others are now reporting that Rep. Mark Foley, a Republican from Florida who held what was considered a safe seat, will not run for reelection. Why you ask? Apparently he liked to send sexual emails and instant messages to underage male Congressional pages. Oh yeah, and he just happens to be the founder and co-chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children. CNN’s Dana Bash reported just now: [...]
September 29th, 2006 at 3:27 pmRepublican “family values” are just creepy.
September 29th, 2006 at 3:32 pmOT – Habeas Corpus has been suspended. Bush now has the authority to claim YOU, ME or ANYBODY an Enemy Combatant and hold us FOREVER in jail. He can do this entirely at his discretion with NO Oversight. He can TORTURE US IN ANY MANNER HE SEES FIT. And as long as we’re at war, which is FOREVER, he retains this power.
Why is no one talking about this? The country officially died today when he signed the bill.
What sort of act could get you in trouble? I haven’t a clue. Maybe talking to that Arab guy who sells you your lottery ticket in the 7-11. Perhaps he’s a relative of a suspected terrorist and if someone sees you talking to him now you’re a suspected terrorist too.
Maybe posting on TP makes you an Enemy Combatant.
At least I’ve figured out why Halliburton (or one of its subsidiaries) has been building those “secret†jails around the country. They’re for you and me. I’m sure Karl Rove has a list of people to begin grabbing and he’s salivating like a happy dog.
Friends, the nightmare has begun. Bush has won. The terrorists have won. We have lost.
September 29th, 2006 at 3:34 pmWow another sex offender found in our government. How many more do we have in government that are attacking our children. Bush has put sex offenders in office and all have security clearance. Who’s worse the terrorist or government sex offenders. Now wonder John Mark Carr will go free he has the backing of the United States government.
September 29th, 2006 at 3:34 pmgood riddance!
September 29th, 2006 at 3:34 pmThe public is just going to have to expect more of this from Republicans. Many are closet pedophiles . Check out links to Bohemian Grove and this scandal (Franklin coverup). You can find the documentary that was to be aired about this. Look for “Conspiracy of Silence”
http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/BACKUP%20PAGES/WASHINGTON%20TIMES%20SMOKING%20GUN.htm
September 29th, 2006 at 3:39 pmWith the Foley resignation, are the odds of a Democrat taking this seat now increased? If so, that’s one more closer to the 15 we need.
PS. I’ll take any Democrat over any Republican. We should rejoice at every chance we get to reach the majic number 15.
September 29th, 2006 at 3:41 pmLarry, I’ve read LOTS of people talking about it, just not on a thread for a congressman resigning. Go to Unclaimed Territory for several posts. The NYTimes has a piece with a comment section for readers. Jesus’ General site has commentary, Firedog Lake, Digby, etc.
September 29th, 2006 at 3:41 pmwhich one is foley? grey suit? who are the goon brothers with him?
September 29th, 2006 at 3:47 pm…
Waterboard Foley…. get the whole truth from this terrorist….
September 29th, 2006 at 3:48 pmMost of the 2006 Election Prediction sites that I visit have given Rep. Foley’s seat as “not competitive” and a “safe” seat for retention by Republicans.
As for his replacement, this is the applicable law in Florida, PP-57-58 of the PDF listed below.
“In the event that death, resignation, withdrawal, removal, or any other cause or event should cause a party to have a vacancy in nomination which leaves no candidate for an office from such party, the Department of State shall notify the chair of the appropriate state, district, or county political party executive committee of such party; and, within 7 days, the chair shall call a meeting of his or her executive committee to consider designation of a nominee to fill the vacancy. The name of any person so designated shall be submitted to the Department of State within 7 days after notice to the chair in order that the person designated may have his or her name on the ballot of the ensuing general election.”
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/publications/pdf/electionLawsHigh.pdf
September 29th, 2006 at 3:54 pmRep. Foley has been suspected for years of being gay; I guess he likes his meat fresh.
September 29th, 2006 at 3:56 pmBeing neither gay or Republican, I believe there is a lot more to this story. He wouldn’t have resigned merely for emailing the kid about the weather and working out and asking for a picture. There is
September 29th, 2006 at 3:56 pmA LOT more here.
Why is he cutting and running? Does he hate our freedom?
September 29th, 2006 at 3:57 pmThe funny thing is the technology. These old perverts don’t have a clue how the technology works. Maybe e-mail wasn’t the best way to communicate your sexual advances toward the boy Mr. Foley.
They probably don’t let Bush even have access to E-mail for this very reason.
The loudest opponents to gays, are indeed gay themselves.
What is his wife thinking? Probably nothing, and will stand my her man no matter what.
Evil had made advances in our society, cloaked in religious piety.
September 29th, 2006 at 3:58 pmWhat about Ralph Hall, R-TX he has been instrumental in helping the child sex slave trade with Abramoff. Let’s put the screws to this pervert,
anyone that would help someone with the child sex trade, we need to know if he is personally involved as a customer, the two tend to go hand in hand
and he has visited and seems to have a lot of knowledge about it
how many pervs have we in Congress? maybe a few more than in the white house, but not many
September 29th, 2006 at 3:59 pmThose damn repubs mostly a bunch of degerates if only we can find some sexsual dirt on Geaorge and Dick , that would be ground for impeachment , surely for Russert .Iraq , Afghanistan , corruption , lies , do not seem to be enough .
September 29th, 2006 at 4:00 pmaccording to randi, this guy’s proclivities toward men are well known among those residents of his district and state…
she also congratulated the democratic candidate who was running against foley in the formerly can’t win race… too late to put another r in…
September 29th, 2006 at 4:00 pm…
Oldtree,
Someone in the White House likes Geoff “the cannon” Gannon.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:01 pmAnother sicko republican leaves in disgrace – so what else is new? There’s at least one or two going down every day.
Putting Foley in charge of children is like putting a sugar addict in a candy factory – what kind of responsible placement was that anyway??
Good riddance to bad rubbish!
September 29th, 2006 at 4:05 pmThey probably don’t let Bush even have access to E-mail for this very reason.
#29 – that is really, really funny
September 29th, 2006 at 4:06 pmI would imagine that the authorities are combing through Foley’s computers now as we post. He obviously has alot to hide.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:06 pmSO I guess BARNEY FRANK who ran a Male Page sex ring out of his Capitol Hill home will resign now?
Oh that’s right, only Republicans have the guts to resign when they do something wrong.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:06 pmI’m with you on finding some sexual dirt on some of the others but, in all seriousness, would there be any man or woman who’d be interested at all?? I seriously doubt that anyone could be found to even entertain the idea of being with George or Dick….yuck!
September 29th, 2006 at 4:06 pmI am glad this came out before the election. He was a shoe-in to win and he represents our district here in Palm Beach County, FL.
Unfortunately, the race between Foley and Mahoney was truly between two losers. I have no qualms about Republican bashing in the other comments above. They deserve it. Unfortunately, the Democrats aren’t exactly a great answer either. Both Foley and Mahoney are sleazy and are typical of our choices in elections.
As an independant, I really wish there was a real third party alternative to the other two parties. I am really sick “party zealots” who focus far more on mudslinging and winning at all cost, than displaying actual patriotism and leadership.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:09 pm#37….Barney Frank did not go after little boys. Are you a pedophile? I hear that you all support each other.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:11 pmFrank DID go after little boys, the Democrats buried it in the investigation
September 29th, 2006 at 4:13 pmIs anyone keeping a list of Bush-era Republican scandals such as this…? The list shouldbe getting pretty meaty by now.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:13 pmNo one is supporting Foley, just pointing out your hypocrisy.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:14 pm#41…reference, please. Web link…anything….(crickets….)
September 29th, 2006 at 4:14 pmI wonder if Exley finds this guy to be a hottie.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:17 pmIts good to see the GOP crowd amongst us embracing their man. Makes me feel good. Such love and openness. That’s what Jesus would do. I wish I had a perverted clost pedophile to throw my arms arounfd right now. What is Jeff Gannon doing these days? Sounds like Foley needs a job. Heh!
September 29th, 2006 at 4:17 pmCepan7,
There are no “guts” in foley’s decision to resign, it was done in cowardice. He did it only to attempt to avoid further and more damning information coming out.
What is as equally disgusting as foley’s actions is the fact that you find “honor” in it. You sir, are a vile creature and you, like the politicians that you worship, most certainly have no honor.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:18 pmI wonder if Exley finds this guy to be a hottie.
Comment by SpudgeBoy — September 29, 2006 @ 4:17 pm
Thanks for the good laugh, very funny.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:19 pmI somehow guess that this isn’t quite the “October Surprise” the Republicans have been planning…
Perfect timing. The sheep need constant reminders of the corrupt pedophiles they elected to represent them…
September 29th, 2006 at 4:19 pm#45 & #49….ROTFL
September 29th, 2006 at 4:22 pmCepan7
Sorry dude, even the guys like Ney and and the “Duke” proclaimed innocence even when the cards were stacked against them. Same with DeLay. If this guy even had a shade of a chance of getting out of it, he would be screaming innocence and would not budge. You know there must be some pretty rank shit yet to be published about this guy. SO STFU!
September 29th, 2006 at 4:22 pmNow, that was funny.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:23 pmYo Cepan7, Barney Frank’s trouble with his houseguest are well-known, and over a decade-and-a-half old. Is that the best you can do? Try digging up something from this millenium. Or at least the nineties.Okay?
September 29th, 2006 at 4:25 pmWaterboard Foley…. get the whole truth from this terrorist….
Comment by bob — September 29, 2006 @ 3:48 pm
Hilarious…
September 29th, 2006 at 4:25 pmCite your source, Cepan7.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:27 pmSo, do you think Rep Foley is the same Maf54 that is selling an essay about Charlie Manson’s Trial?
http://www.myessays.net/uinfo.php?uid=977&PHPSESSID=882907a09386f65233710c37a3f4ced6
September 29th, 2006 at 4:28 pmHe wouldn’t have resigned merely for emailing the kid about the weather and working out and asking for a picture.
Comment by Tony — September 29, 2006 @ 3:56 pm
Exactly. I read the text on CNN and really, it was inappropriate, but hardly something to lose your job over. People generally don’t take drastic measures for things they’ve written… I think you’re right.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:29 pmCepan7,
September 29th, 2006 at 4:29 pmI’ve heard the accusation about Frank before. Do you have a link to a credible source? I for one would like to see it.
Foley campaign aides: “…there was nothing inappropriate about the exchange.” Well, the boy thought there was. Or isn’t “sick sick sick sick…” good enough for Republicans?
September 29th, 2006 at 4:29 pmGood grief, you guys are as bad as the right-wing fundamentalists in your obsession, self-deception, and hypocriscy.
By the way, those throwing stones with the propaganda about Republican pedophiles may want to look at how Democrats have handled admitted pedophiles in Congress — here’s a hint, think Gerry Studds.
Consider what the Democrat controlled house felt was appropriate punishment, as well as what the voters in the home districts of both the Republican and Democrat involved in the page scandal did.
Matt
September 29th, 2006 at 4:29 pmHe’s no different than the pervs getting busted on Dateline. So glad this happened!
September 29th, 2006 at 4:30 pmBagdad has just called a shutdown of the city for moving vehicles and people…….4:30pm east coast time friday
September 29th, 2006 at 4:31 pmCome on exley, mighty aphrodisiac, defend this pedophile scumbucket!
September 29th, 2006 at 4:32 pmIf there was nothing here, why would a shoo in slam dunk candidate for re-election resign?????
They probably don’t let Bush even have access to E-mail for this very reason.
Comment by ForTruth — September 29, 2006 @ 3:58 pm
That’s hilarious too – mostly because it’s probably true… :)
Though I would bet the Chimp can’t write, much less type.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:33 pm#64,
September 29th, 2006 at 4:34 pmAhh, but they still have the freedom to sit at home in the dark with no running water. Post-war planning…phhhah…that’s only for guys with egos less than Rumsfield.
It’s all spinning out of control.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:35 pmNothing about being a pedophile in there. It says he was gay. Does that mean you think all gay people are pedophiles?
Talk about a weird way of thinking.
Besides, he left Congress in 1996
How about something from this century?
September 29th, 2006 at 4:35 pmThat’s hilarious too – mostly because it’s probably true… :)
Though I would bet the Chimp can’t write, much less type.
Comment by unbelievable
They used to give him crayons to write with but his poop kept changing colors and frightening Laura.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:36 pmThe Republicans–the party of GRAFT, TORTURE, and PEDOPHILIA.
Has a nice ring to it, doesn’t it?
September 29th, 2006 at 4:37 pmOr do you mean this part:
See, something was done. no hypocracy.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:37 pm#67 Yea, No Sh*t, too bad they cannot use their “freedom” to make electricity….. They are saying this is due to the violence swelling this evening….
September 29th, 2006 at 4:38 pmSo there was a guy named Frank who was a Democrat ten years ago who also was a pedophile. Ok good thing hes been gone for 10 years. Now which pedophiles are still in the government?
September 29th, 2006 at 4:38 pmHas the FBI seized his Congressional offices and raided his home for evidence of possible criminal activity?
September 29th, 2006 at 4:38 pmI wonder if Exley finds this guy to be a hottie.
Comment by SpudgeBoy — September 29, 2006 @ 4:17 pm
You know it :)
September 29th, 2006 at 4:40 pmThey used to give him crayons to write with but his poop kept changing colors and frightening Laura.
Comment by dlet
*giggling like a school girl*
September 29th, 2006 at 4:41 pmSo the best defense is to bring up some guy from 10 years ago? Alrighty then.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:41 pmWill Mr. Foley now COME OUT OF THE CLOSET>>>??? Living a LIE is no good. Being a REPUGNicant is also DESPICABLE. Now, if Foley came out and left the Repug party, he may find a “silver lining” to this mess.
Dumb. Dumb.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:42 pmOh yeah, our perverted pedohphile is better than yours! Nah Nah Boo Boo. I’m still chocked up by the “honorable” pedophile. Give that man a medal!He’s an admitted sexual predator. Wait, what if this is liberal plot to distract us from the good news coming out of Iraq or the President’s insistance that he be allowed to strip men down, tie them up and torture them. Good American values!
September 29th, 2006 at 4:43 pmUnbelievable,
I’ll bet one of my paychecks that Bush is not allowed to use e-mail. We all know Rummy doesn’t use it, and Cheney, well, he goes undercover by the name of Mighty Aphrodite.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:44 pmThey won’t allow Bush to use email, he keeps pressing the submit button, but the damn computer won’t submit to his will.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:44 pmHow can there not be a single mention of the Tribunal Bill passage yesterday in the Congress – voted for by 12 Democratic members of the Senate – they sold away Habeas Corpus rights in exchange for their re-election – I hope that their Democratic constituencies vote them out. They and the Republicans who voted for that bill are traitors to the Constitution of the US and should not be allowed to even enter the Congressional building.
Yet Thinkprogress has not a word to say about one of the blackest days in Congressional history.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:44 pmThey used to give him crayons to write with but his poop kept changing colors and frightening Laura.
Comment by dlet — September 29, 2006 @ 4:36 pm
LOL!
September 29th, 2006 at 4:45 pmWow, from a “Safe Repub” seat to another open one. Retaking the House looks like more and more of a possibility.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:45 pmAmerica’s Least Wanted
I believe in an America that does not torture, unlike 12 Democratic members of the Senate
September 29th, 2006 at 4:45 pm#81 Hey, “REPUGNicant” is my line, it’s copywrited you know….
September 29th, 2006 at 4:46 pmBush would use the email if he could find the “Lick Stamp” button.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:47 pmForTruth,
Bush said long ago that he doesn’t use e-mail. So did Rice. He doesn’t want to clog up the Internets tubes.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:47 pmTGIF..!
Unless you are Karl Rove, Ken Mehlman, Mark Foley, Conrad Burns, George Allen, Scooter Libby, Condi Rice, Rummy, Andrew Fastow, Bernie Ebers, President Bush and the Grand Old Party – they are having a really really bad week.
Cheer up! It is all downhill from here. ;)
http://patrickjfitzgerald.blogspot.com
September 29th, 2006 at 4:48 pmJim McGreevy. Barney Frank, Jim McGreevy. Barney Frank, Jim McGreevy. Barney Frank, Jim McGreevy. Barney Frank, Jim McGreevy. Barney Frank, Jim McGreevy. Barney Frank, Jim McGreevy. Barney Frank, Jim McGreevy. Barney Frank, Jim McGreevy. Barney Frank, Jim McGreevy. Barney Frank, Jim McGreevy. Barney Frank, Jim McGreevy. Barney Frank.
So far nothing points to any illegal activity by Foley.
And for the story to call a 16 year old male a “boy”? 16 yr old males are no longer “boys”. Well, unless they’re still wearing their liberal mommy’s apron…..
September 29th, 2006 at 4:49 pmI was gonna tell Ren to use ASCII characters for a little TM for copywriting. But I am at a Windows computer at work. Too hard to do. Easy on a Mac.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:50 pmWhat do Mark Foley and Sears have in common? Boy’s underwear half off! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
September 29th, 2006 at 4:50 pmI’m still chocked up by the “honorable†pedophile. Give that man a medal!He’s an admitted sexual predator.
Comment by Doctor+Texas — September 29, 2006 @ 4:43 pm
Funny (in a sick way) how you repugs, from the conception of a child until he or she is 18 will overprotect that kid from every possible boogeyman that exists, and many that do not. Then, when they turn 18, even though you haven’t taught them the first thing about being an adult, you suddenly expect them to become a fully functioning grown-up. And if they dare mess up, because they will when you teach them nothing but how to memorize useless trivia for a test, they suddenly become new boogeymen who you want to punish to death.
I bet the boy who Foley hit on will be voting Democrat in 2008, and beyond.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:52 pmComment by whosaidwhatnow? — September 29, 2006 @ 4:49 pm
That is pretty bad dude, you probably think 16 year old girls are women, and you should be able to have sex with them. Physically they are ready for reproduction, but emotionally no-way. But that speaks to your emotional maturity. Moron. You have outed yourself as a perverted Republican.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:52 pmwhosaidwhatnow?
Too bad you won’t use your real name to stick up for the pedophile. If he isn’t a pedophile for propisitioning a 16 year old, then he is a homosexual who should be charge with propisitioning a minor. Either way…..
September 29th, 2006 at 4:54 pmI’ll bet one of my paychecks that Bush is not allowed to use e-mail.
I wouldn’t take that bet… You’re probably right. Even if he could, though, I doubt he could. We should probably be thankful for that… Could you imagine what he’d email to Angela Merkel??? :)
We all know Rummy doesn’t use it, and Cheney, well, he goes undercover by the name of Mighty Aphrodite.
Comment by ForTruth — September 29, 2006 @ 4:44 pm
That was hysterial! LOL
September 29th, 2006 at 4:54 pmI wouldn’t call you stupid either #10, but only 1/3 of congressional seats are up for re-election at any one time. Every two years, another 1/3 of the seats are up for grabs.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:54 pmAnd who are those 12 Democratic Senators who voted FOR Bush’s torture bill and the tossing out of Habeas Corpus? Not only did they vote to destroy the Constitution, they voted for a bill that will protect Bush from being prosecuted for war crimes, it makes the protection of the bill retroactive.
The Judas’s are…
Tom Carper of Delaware
September 29th, 2006 at 4:55 pmTim Johnson of South Dakota
Mary Landrieu of Louisiana
Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey
Senator Menendez of New Jersey
Bill Nelson of Florida
Ben Nelson of Nebraska,
Senator Pryor of Arkansas
Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia
Ken Salazar of Colorado
Debbie Stabenow of Michigan
Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut
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So I take it he had the “exploited” thing down, but he wasn’t able to make the kids “missing”?
September 29th, 2006 at 4:57 pmGuess I was wrong about that one!
Based on the few emails I saw at first, it could have been innocent.
I saw some others later on another site that put it over the top.
Yeah, now he’s out. WOW.
Are there ANY Republican congressmen with normal (legal) sex lives?
September 29th, 2006 at 4:57 pm#102: Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia – - Huh? How is that possible when he’s been so vocally against it. I’d like to see a link.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:57 pmI believe in an America that does not torture, unlike 12 Democratic members of the Senate
Comment by SonsofTureen — September 29, 2006 @ 4:45 pm
Who are they?
September 29th, 2006 at 4:58 pmtaste, taste, tasting….
September 29th, 2006 at 4:58 pmWill this get ANY CNN/FOX/MSNBC coverage?
Probably not.
Why aren’t they talking about Ney? They aren’t.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:58 pmSpeaking of secrets:
“CBS News reports: “Veteran Washington reporter Bob Woodward tells Mike Wallace that the Bush administration has not told the truth regarding the level of violence, especially against U.S. troops, in Iraq. He also reveals key intelligence that predicts the insurgency will grow worse next year. . . .
“According to Woodward, insurgent attacks against coalition troops occur, on average, every 15 minutes, a shocking fact the administration has kept secret. . . .”
September 29th, 2006 at 4:59 pmBush would take pictures of his dick in the doughnuts they served to Angela Merkel, and e-mail them to her thinking it would turn her on.
September 29th, 2006 at 4:59 pmand I mean, beyond the one mention. It won’t get wall to wall coverage.
The Jefferson and Kennedy scandals lasted about a week a piece.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:00 pmOT Yesterday the congress of the United States abrogated the constitution of the United States. Those that promised to defend and protect the Contituion should now be and provided by the Constitution to throw all of them out of government. As Bush signs this bill after he , committed felony’s and was now given amnesty will become the first sitting dictator of the United States. If the American people had any honor left he would be removed from office on Friday. We also abrogated the geneva convention and should be condemned around the world.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:00 pm#101 – Karekin, take a civics class.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:01 pmOnly 1/3 of the senate is re-elected each two year cycle
The House of Representatives has a fixed number of 435 members. Its members serve for two years and then are up for reelection.
Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut
Comment by SonsofTureen — September 29, 2006 @ 4:55 pm
He no longer counts as a Democrat… No matter what he insists.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:02 pmJake,
It’s CNN’s cover story…
September 29th, 2006 at 5:03 pmLet’s round ‘em all up!! Well, bush’s bulldog Rover must have barked the orders of his boss for Foley to run out of his job within 2 days of the big story breaking. So, now Abramoff has been at the WH so much be practically has a permanent bunk bed and Woodward suddenly turned from ass-kissing bush to hanging him in the public square via his new, “no, I’m not a bush ass-kisser book”–my,my how people’s tunes are changing by the HOUR. This just gets curious-er and curious-er, by george!
September 29th, 2006 at 5:04 pmHEY ROVE, DID SOMEONE SAY OCTOBER SURPRISE? YOU ASSHOLE
September 29th, 2006 at 5:04 pmBush would take pictures of his d**k in the doughnuts
Comment by ForTruth — September 29, 2006 @ 4:59 pm
Don’t you mean doughnut – as in single doughnut. I don’t think he could hang two. :)
September 29th, 2006 at 5:05 pm#105 – here’s the link
September 29th, 2006 at 5:06 pmhttp://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/29/150254
Foley was a member of the Republican leadership, serving as a deputy whip.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:06 pmAre they going to ask him to leave the whip in his office?
#118 – Un – Yuk! It must wind up as a creme filled…Yukkier…
September 29th, 2006 at 5:08 pm#106
The 12 Democratic Senators who voted to protect Bush from war crimes prosecution, strip Habeas corpus rights, and continue torture are
Tom Carper of Delaware
September 29th, 2006 at 5:09 pmTim Johnson of South Dakota
Mary Landrieu of Louisiana
Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey
Senator Menendez of New Jersey
Bill Nelson of Florida
Ben Nelson of Nebraska,
Senator Pryor of Arkansas
Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia
Ken Salazar of Colorado
Debbie Stabenow of Michigan
Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut
Sons – These so called “Democrats” will get payback in the 08 primaries…
September 29th, 2006 at 5:11 pmIf you really believe in the Democratic Party saving us from Bush, call the 12 Judas’ who voted for the Tribunal Bill today and tell them they are traitors to this country.
Tom Carper of Delaware
Tim Johnson of South Dakota
Mary Landrieu of Louisiana
Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey
Senator Menendez of New Jersey
Bill Nelson of Florida
Ben Nelson of Nebraska,
Senator Pryor of Arkansas
Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia
Ken Salazar of Colorado
Debbie Stabenow of Michigan
Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/29/150254
September 29th, 2006 at 5:12 pmThe group-think coming in to all of this was surely of arrogance and denial, now reality is finally hitting, people are dropping like flies. So many otherwise intelligent rational people have fallen for this shit, IT SEEMS.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:12 pmComment by ForTruth — September 29, 2006 @ 4:52 pm
Well you sure have a sense of “projection” about you to immediately link what I wrote to 16 yr old girls. WHERE IS YOUR SICK MIND?
I never said 16yr old girls are ready emotionally for sex. But hey- why would a Lib like you care as long as she’s on The Pill right? You sure don’t want to knock up your babysitter or the high school girl next door, right? And damn, even if you do knock her up you want her to be able to abort it without parental knowledge and consent. Who’s the sicko?
Various studies show anywhere from 25-40% of 16yr olds of both genders are sexually active.
The point of the story on Foley in using the word “boy” is to generate thoughts of a child molestor, which, so far is not the case with Foley.
Nothing has been reported so far that shows that Foley broke any law(s) or said anything objectionable in his emails. If it comes out that he did, throw the legal book at him.
The fact that Libs are jumping to conclusions and judging Foley of any law breaking , let alone pretend to take the moral high-ground on a poltical opponent speaks all anyone needs to know about how liberals operate.
I must’ve hit a nerve with all you pansy ass Libs out there.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:13 pmHere you go, folks. It looks as though dems should take this seat.
http://highlands.tbo.com/MGBYIWZT4OE.html
September 29th, 2006 at 5:15 pm2 women in the list of 12 Dems who wrote our country off. These must be those rare ones like Barbara who have no maternal instincts.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:16 pmSo far nothing points to any illegal activity by Foley.
And for the story to call a 16 year old male a “boyâ€? 16 yr old males are no longer “boysâ€. Well, unless they’re still wearing their liberal mommy’s apron…..
Comment by whosaidwhatnow
well sunshine.. he was wrong no matter how you want to slice it up and serve it. Doesn’t matter the political affiliation no 53 year old has ANY business contacting a minor and if you can’t see that then you have issues.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:18 pmJim McGreevy & Barney Frank “smoke the pole”!
September 29th, 2006 at 5:18 pm127 and let me ask you – based on what the Democrats did yesterday and today by voting for the Tribunal bill – what difference does it make, or would it make if we had a majority of Democrats in the congress right now.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:18 pmThe Democrats sold us out today and they are traitors just like the Republicans. You tell me the difference.
Comment by whosaidwhatnow — September 29, 2006 @ 5:13 pm
Dude, you feel 16 year old males are not boys. Wouldn’t your same logic apply to females? Oh yeah you’re are sexist too. You just outed yourself as a Republican sexist pedophile! Shut your pie hole.
Yes you are right, technically he has done nothing illegal. It doesn’t take a genious to see he was approaching the line. And as long as you are using the law in technical terms, technically, a 16 year old male is a boy. Just stop now, while you can still see the top of the hole you are digging.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:22 pmComment by whosaidwhatnow
Okay, just to appease you we’ll call him an underage man. Happy now?
September 29th, 2006 at 5:23 pmAll you who go on and on about Foley’s folly – do something more than just sit around making sick jokes – do something for your country – call the 12 Judas Democratic Senators who voted to protect Bush from war crimes prosecution today. Call them and tell them they have sold us out. Do something besides make stupid jokes.
Tom Carper of Delaware – (202) 224-2441
September 29th, 2006 at 5:25 pmTim Johnson of South Dakota – (202) 224-5842
Mary Landrieu of Louisiana (202) 224-5824
Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey – (202-224-3224
Senator Menendez of New Jersey – (202) 224-4744
Bill Nelson of Florida – (202) 224-5274
Ben Nelson of Nebraska – (202) 224-6551
Senator Pryor of Arkansas – (202) 224-2353
Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia (202) 224-6472
Ken Salazar of Colorado – (202) 224-5852
Debbie Stabenow of Michigan – (202) 224-4822
Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut 202) 224-4041
Comment by ForTruth — September 29, 2006 @ 5:22 pm; Shut your pie hole.
No, I’ll comment here just like as you are. It’s not easy to keep slinging mud, is it? It’s hard, tiring work. You’re very defensive about this topic. What are you hiding? Who are you hiding? Some underage child in a dungeon?
I bet you knocked up a few underage girls in your time and paid for their abortions, didn’t you? THAT must be why you’re so riled up.
Comment by Mizbhaven — September 29, 2006 @ 5:18 pm
The 16 yr old was a former page, as i understand the story. You find it strange that a former page would contact a Congressman? WHY? Do you think it is uncommon for a former page to contact a Congressman? What do you base that on? Sure seems youre mind is in the gutter.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:29 pmI am using PLC’s point here. Credit is given.
Dear Mr. Whosaidwhatnow:
This guy Foley is the founder and co-chair of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children’s Caucus. That would make him especially sensitive to the way perpetrators operate and how children are exploited. Even more reason for Foley not to even approach the line. And asking a 16 year old kid for his picture is approaching the line. Wait, and in the coming days we will here of more concrete evidence, and I would love to see you return and argue at that time. So mr. whosaidwhatnow, you are in denial or just plain stupid.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:29 pmWhosaidwhatnow:
I’m riled up because you really are trying to whitwash this whole thing. Goes back to your denial.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:32 pmFL GOP to Draft Palm Beach County Resident Ann Coulter
FL state law – Foley’s name will stay on the ballot, but the FL GOP can pick a new candidate. Relevant statute: here
September 29th, 2006 at 5:33 pmAre the authorities waterboarding him to see what else he’s hiding? We wouldn’t want any of those tough Republicans to to be considered pansies would we? Afterall if he has nothing to hide, it isn’t reallytorture.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:33 pmBartleby Quotations:
Edwin W Edwards, Governor of Louisiana: QUOTATION: [I could not lose unless I was] caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:37 pm“The fact that Libs are jumping to conclusions and judging Foley of any law breaking , let alone pretend to take the moral high-ground on a poltical opponent speaks all anyone needs to know about how liberals operate.
I must’ve hit a nerve with all you pansy ass Libs out there. ”
But then again, if he was a Democrat……….
September 29th, 2006 at 5:39 pmwell now squidbilly if he were a dimmocrat we’d all be being asked to try and understand his “confused sexuality” and be sympathetic to “his sexuality”, and we’d be asking the press to back off and allow him time “to work things out with his family”, now wouldn’t we?
forTruthlessness …..
This guy Foley is the founder and co-chair of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children’s Caucus. That would make him especially sensitive to the way perpetrators operate and how children are exploited.
you mean like clinton exploits women ? is it that kind of exploitation you mean, or do you speak of a different type of exploitation?
make sure you jump to conclustions and are the judge and jury!
September 29th, 2006 at 5:44 pmAccording florida law, section 100.111.(4a), Foley’s name has to stay on the ballot and all votes for him go to the replacement candidate the Republican party chooses.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:44 pmhttp:// http://www.citizensforethics.org…ailExchange.pdf
I must’ve hit a nerve with all you pansy ass Libs out there. â€
September 29th, 2006 at 5:44 pmBut then again, if he was a Democrat……….
Comment by Squidbilly — September 29, 2006 @ 5:39 pm
If he was a democrate I would be the first person to punt his balls off so kiss my ass you perv loving ass…
To SpudgeBoy / Comments 73
>See, something was done. no hypocracy.
And Comment 70:
>How about something from this century?
From the Department of Get A Clue:
The left has lost power because the Center of America has lost confidence in them.
While I certainly won’t say the Crane / Studds pedophile scandal was the pivotal event, it certainly was emblematic of an attitude that makes many voters in the center highly uncomfortable with the excesses of the left. They’re not too happy with the excesses of the right, but so far they’ll take those over those of the left.
In 1983, Newt Gingrich stood before a Democratically controlled house and advocated the expulsion these two admitted pedophiles — one Republican, one Democrat. The House declined, instead chosing to simply slap their hands with a censure. Both had the audacity to run again for office — the Republican losing; the Democrats in Studd’s Massachusetts districts continuing to return him to office through the 1994 elections.
That is just one of many places middle America feels uncomfortable with what the liberals will tolerate.
Instead of rejoicing of maybe winning a house seat due to a pedophile, maybe you should spend some more time thinking about why the Democrats aren’t able to win in Middle America. The lack of an effective opposition is bad — and has bred corrupt influences in the Republicans as bad as the Democrats had been corrupted by business when they where in power. An right wing activist, fundamentalist agenda is in action in the Republicans today and can not be checked until the Democrats can make Middle America comfortable with them again. Sure, be happy this seat is an easier one to win — but start trying to figure out why Lieberman leads Lamont in every segment of the current Quinnipiac poll except anti-war Democrats…and how much money the Democrats (both those supporting Lamont, and those Lieberman) will have thrown down the toilet to elect…a Democrat. From a cheap, sure Democrat seat to an expensive, sure Democrat seat — money the Dems could’ve used against seats they’re fighting for. All because they tried to use a sure seat to elect someone most of Connecticut’s voters don’t feel comfortable with.
Matt
September 29th, 2006 at 5:46 pmren, you certainly have the perv-gutter language down pat! Must come from years of being a dimmocrat.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:47 pmSquidbilly, if you weren’t such a pansy ass neocon you would know that nobody here tolerates pedophiles.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:49 pmFoley’s Departure Screws Florida’s GOP
September 29th, 2006 at 5:49 pmren, you certainly have the perv-gutter language down pat! Must come from years of being a dimmocrat.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:52 pmComment by whosaidwhatnow — September 29, 2006 @ 5:47 pm
any point there?
Wow ‘whosaidwhatnow’ – you clowns can defend anything can’t you? If Foley did nothing wrong then why has he resigned, effective immediately? “blah, blah, blah, 16 year olds aren’t boys anymore” and the old standby “blah, blah, blah – Clinton!”. You’re pathetic.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:57 pmoops…sorry, I meant whosaidwhatnow
September 29th, 2006 at 5:57 pmsex scandals in DC at Wash Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/congress.htm
total: 13 democrats convicted in sex scandals. 8 republicans.
ren the point is your foul language. you probably don’t notice it…being down there in the gutter…..
And how do we know this email exchages is even factual? Maybe Dan Rather is faking all of it.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:01 pmDal90,
And you think Americans are comfortable sending their kids off to die for no good reason. You keep thinking in your 1980s mindset and I will live in the here and now. You know the reality where my neighbor sent here kid off to the military two months ago thinking the Iraq war was going to end soon. It wasn’t until I pointed out to her what Bush and friends have said about a “long war” that she realized that her son may very well die for Bush’s oil war. This is a girl who used to blast Bill O’Rielly in her car everyday. She has gotten over her mental illness of being a conservative sheeple. Apparently you haven’t. Too bad for you. Times are changing my friend. Time to stop thinking like a cave man.
Also, everything you have provided to this thread has not had anything to do with the latest Republican pedophile.
Americans like my republican mother HATE pedophiles. You guys need to stop worrying about our party and start cleaning up your own. Good luck. It is in grained in these people.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:01 pmheh, its so easy to rile up you piss in the pants liberals.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:02 pm#152 you are so lame that I could care less what you ask me, WOW how pointless your point is…
September 29th, 2006 at 6:03 pmIf Foley did nothing wrong then why has he resigned, effective immediately?
Lemme guess — it’s a Karl Rove plot ? ? ?
September 29th, 2006 at 6:03 pmNow, a GOP source tells us now that essentially Foley is worried that there are other potentially politically damaging e-mail or other messages that may be out there and he has concluded that it’s probably best for him not to seek reelection from Florida.
Obviously, what Foley is worried about is not that there “might” be other damaging e-mail or messages out there, but that there are in fact other damaging e-mails out there and he’s afraid they’ll come to light.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:06 pmfor sonsoftureen:
you will find some good stories and information here also:
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/
something to think about, credit to randi rhodes…
September 29th, 2006 at 6:09 pmit’s not hard to imagine that one reason bushco want to spy and wiretap is to keep close tabs and watch on political “enemies”… not hard to imagine that he/they have been very busy doing just that…
all that considered, it’s not hard to imagine that many of those reps and senators have been blackmailed, or at the least coerced, into voting and abiding according to bushco wishes…
doesn’t excuse them, but you know it’s a possibility…
…
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idiot, you ask a question, get an answer you don’t want to hear so then dismiss it. you are a textbook case of political rherotic before truth, justice or law.
13 democrats convicted of sexual offenses…..8 republicans. Who’s winning that race?
September 29th, 2006 at 6:10 pmYou republicans are the ones that are so scared of your shadows that you build bomb shelters to protect you from an invisible threat. Chicken sh!t chicken hawks.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:10 pmhey SpoogeBoy! How’s that ‘cut and run’ mentality going?
September 29th, 2006 at 6:14 pmwhosaidwhatnow – Now don’t get your panties in a wad just because you’re losing
September 29th, 2006 at 6:18 pmwhosaidwhatnow?
September 29th, 2006 at 6:18 pmwho cares?
i do!
no you don’t!
you’re a doody pants
i know you are but what am i
maaaaaaa!
“Sons – These so called “Democrats†will get payback in the 08 primaries…”– RUCerious
Probably not. It is very difficult to replace Senators, and only 1/3 come up for election every two years.
Tom Carper of Delaware — 2006
September 29th, 2006 at 6:19 pmTim Johnson of South Dakota — 2008
Mary Landrieu of Louisiana — 2008
Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey — 2008
Senator Menendez of New Jersey — (appointed) 2006
Bill Nelson of Florida — (2006 — leaving Senate)
Ben Nelson of Nebraska, — 2006
Senator Pryor of Arkansas — 2008
Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia — 2008
Ken Salazar of Colorado — 2010
Debbie Stabenow of Michigan — 2006
Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut — 2006
So,
Bill Nelson of Florida — (2006 — leaving Senate)
Tom Carper of Delaware — 2006
Senator Menendez of New Jersey — (appointed) 2006
Ben Nelson of Nebraska, — 2006
Debbie Stabenow of Michigan — 2006
Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut — 2006
If we don’t get these now, they are IN UNTIL 2012.
Tim Johnson of South Dakota — 2008
Mary Landrieu of Louisiana — 2008
Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey — 2008
Senator Pryor of Arkansas — 2008
Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia — 2008
Ken Salazar of Colorado — 2010
I would suggest that phone calls to the 2006 candidates from state residents would be the most effective. If you’re calling from out of state, don’t expect much.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:23 pmactually I’m agnostic but thank you for thinking that i’m a christian.
does it bother you when you assume to know things that you are totally clueless on, or do you just move on to other types of smearing, leaving whatever falsehoods you made in the lurch?
i know i know, it’s hard to have standards and moral values when you’re a liberal.
13 dems and only 8 repubs. plus clinton and gary condit. where is chandra levy by the way? What did Condit do with her body?
September 29th, 2006 at 6:23 pmThere ARE a lot more damaging Emails out there, hence the resignation. Congress is off for a month now, so this will die down and we probably won’t hear a lot more about his queries to the young man like “are you horny?” and others that are much more incriminating.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:24 pmRemember, when a Republican is in trouble, the media and the party (one and the same) agree to “put it behind them” and look forward. No point in bringing out all the lewd details when the guy has resigned.
On the other hand, when a Democrat is involved……..
Probably, because of the sheer number of Republicans in trouble, it is just an overwhelming task for the media to keep track of them all.
ren nice cut and paste, who helped you with that?
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
what is your point, ren? if you can even slightly make on?
September 29th, 2006 at 6:25 pmren wow, you sure seem to enjoy keeping track of offenses of a sexual nature? WHAT’S THAT ALL ABOUT??
September 29th, 2006 at 6:28 pmren
would you list the link(s) your getting your alleged information from, or are you just making all that up?
September 29th, 2006 at 6:31 pmwhosaidwhatnow – Agnostics are just pansy ass atheists
September 29th, 2006 at 6:31 pmRe #101, Karekin: What you’re saying (1/3 up every 2 years) applies only to the Senators, who serve 6-year terms. Foley is (was) in the House, whose 2-year terms put them 100% up for (re)election evey 2 years.
Re 113 RUCerious: Above rephrases your correction to #101, solely in the hope of more clarity to Karekin. Also worth explaining to others (I’m sure you knew this yourself): the House has had “a fixed number of 435 members” only since 1911; before that, the total changed in proportion to the population every 10 years — the House had started with only 65 members. Now, though the total remains “fixed” at 435, these seats are re-apportioned among the states after each Census.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:35 pm180
brilliant retort. your mamma must be proud of the little girl boy — witty and intellectual organism she gave brith to.
and you libs wonder why no one takes you seriously? all of your posts are textbook cases !
September 29th, 2006 at 6:36 pmRep. Mark Foley Resigns Over Sexually Explicit Ema…
Earlier reporting about Foley’s emails did not make any references to email of a sexually explicit nature, which is why the earlier reporting didn’t catch my attention. This particular report certainly puts those email communications in a different l…
September 29th, 2006 at 6:37 pm# 179 it’s just words…calm down, no one was raped, no one denied sexual relations when in fact they had had them.
no body is missing like Chandra Levy………….
September 29th, 2006 at 6:38 pmG.O.P: God’s Only Perverts. Another Republican pervert goes down in shame.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:39 pmwhosaidwhatnow Lame comeback. Nobody takes you seriously.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:39 pmren
September 29th, 2006 at 6:39 pmwould you list the link(s) your getting your alleged information from, or are you just making all that up?
Comment by whosaidwhatnow — September 29, 2006 @ 6:31 pm
Yes I went out of my way to come up with all that detail, Maybe you should consult the local court records an there might be a coincodence!
187
if you can’t prove and provide from where you got the info, it’s nothing but heresay.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:41 pmHow many young children has Foley violated and hadn’t got caught. The GOP is some group their liars, crooks and now sex offenders. I guess that’s the new religious moral christian way for America. A born again Christian Bush who tortures prisoners and sleeps with the black Secretary of State and lies so much he doesn’t even know he’s lying. No wonder this country is in a mess.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:44 pm186
you’re funny for a liberal. i didn’t know libs had any sense of humor whatsoever. you are the Merriam Webster definition of lame. I bestow upon you that you are the King of Lame. or Queen. whichever you prefer.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:44 pmwhosaidwhatnow = troll
September 29th, 2006 at 6:44 pm#187
September 29th, 2006 at 6:45 pmif you can’t prove and provide from where you got the info, it’s nothing but heresay.
Comment by whosaidwhatnow — September 29, 2006 @ 6:41 pm
I know, Isn’t it great? everyone is saying it, all these kids these days are posting so many crazy things, dickhead!!!!
Rahm Emmanuel is a loser… I sometimes wonder if he is really a Democrat or just a Republican plant… someone to make sure that Dems lose.
As for Mark Foley, just another sexually deviant Republican pediophile. It never ends. Wonder if frat boy man-child Bushie has some secret passion for young boys. Just wondering.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:45 pmRe #178, whosaidwhatnow: ren is at least not making it all up; I recognize a number of the cases, though many names I hadn’t seen before (they appear to be local-level rather than national or otherwise prominent).
ren, I do second the request for a link to a site with sources, simply so that doubters can be referred to it. This blog’s comment software allows adding links even to individual names.
Meanwhile, whosaidwhatnow, please Google on the individual names, perhaps with added search terms befitting each entry (e.g. “rape”, “underage”, etc).
September 29th, 2006 at 6:46 pm#191….LOL!!! BIG TIME!!!
September 29th, 2006 at 6:47 pm192 and 194
i recognize a few names, but the one of ren’s lists has a republican “talk show” host among them.
the point of thw Wash Post article was on Congressman and Senators, not talk show hosts or dog catchers!
compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. if you want to expand the scope, then that’s fine with me, but I’m sure we can find just as many democrats as republicans if we delve into city and county “officials”, some of those who ren listed that aren’t even elected officials, but appointed.
the Wash Post listed ELECTED POLITICIANS, not dogcatchers or assistants to county commisioners, for gods sake.
and thank you 194 for seconding a request for the source(s) of the info. That is the very least that one could provide, providing of course all the allegations listed by ren are indeed factual.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:54 pmSppogeBoy, very original. Name one person that has said anything about cutting and running other than Republicans.
Also, how many years did you serve, which branch and where were you stationed? Or did you cut and run on serving you country?
September 29th, 2006 at 7:00 pmIf you were agnostic you wouldn’t be thinking somebody for thinking you are from any religion. Go learn something about theology. Dork.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:03 pmYes, because intentionally being an a-hole is fun!
Typical republican mentality.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:04 pm#167 – Paul – Yer right!
September 29th, 2006 at 7:06 pmAt least we can go after five by my count!
#181 Raven –
September 29th, 2006 at 7:08 pmThanks for the help. The point is, ALL Reps are up to bat every two years!
More dirt on Mark the Shark just sprang up all over the web.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:10 pmAn IM message asking the teen if he gets him horny.
In response to “a little”, Marky replies “cool”
what a freakin creep!@!
Now we know what Carl Rove’s October supprise will be….
September 29th, 2006 at 7:13 pmCut and Runners: Murtha, Pelosi, Wesley Clark
Murtha: “Our troops have become the primary target of the insurgency,” Murtha said in a Capitol news conference that left him in tears. Islamic insurgents “are united against U.S. forces, and we have become a catalyst for violence,” he said. “. . . It’s time to bring them home.”
Pelosi: House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told colleagues at a closed meeting yesterday morning that she, too, would advocate an immediate troop withdrawal, according to several who attended.
Clark : “There’s a tendency to want to say ‘Cut your losses,’ ” said retired Gen. Wesley K. Clark,
Source for the above: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/17/AR2005111700794.html
Carl Levin: Sens. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and Jack Reed (D-R.I.) visited the Senate press gallery to talk about their proposal, to be introduced today, calling for the beginning of a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.
The inevitable question arose: Won’t this immediately be branded “cut and run”?
“The wording is very clear: It’s not a cut-and-run strategy,” Levin protested. “Our amendment is not in any sense a cut-and-run amendment.”
SOURCE: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/20/AR2006062001343.html
(just because one uses a euphemism for cut and run doesn’t mean it’s not cut and run)
“In late June [2005] 50 House Democrats formed the Out of Iraq Caucus. The leaders of this cut-and-run caucus last week used Gen. Casey’s remarks to publicly lay out their proposed timetable for retreat.”
SOURCE: http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/bminiter/?id=110007045
September 29th, 2006 at 7:15 pmI enjoy watching the hypocrisy of the republican party as much as anyone, but you all need to come off it with this sexual predator angle; the kid IS 16 for crying out loud! That is a legal adult in every country in the world! My grandfather fought in WWII when he was 15! Funny how fast Dems turn into gay bashers when it suits their politics.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:18 pm204
btruthless assumed I’m a crazy christian conservative. he/she is wrong. is there something in that statement that is hard for you to understand? i simply told bthruthless that he/she was putting me in a category that I’m not in. is that hard for you to grasp — dork.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:19 pmwhosaidwhatnow Damn shame that you try to demonize people who support our troops.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:19 pmanother republican predator falls on his own sword…i shall pray to my lord tonight. ok maybe not
“ABC News reported that Mr Foley, who was chairman of the caucus on missing and exploited children, sent messages with repeated references to sexual organs and acts.”
…looking out for exploited children eh foley?
September 29th, 2006 at 7:19 pmwhosaidwhatnow,
And not one of those says “Let’s cut and run from Iraq”
So, keep on lying and we will keep on debunking.
And while we are on the subject of Foley’s pedophilia, here is a little exerpt of his IM.
MaF54: What are ya wearing?
Teen: Tshirt and shorts
MaF54: Love to slip them off of ya.
Yeah, keep on defending those republican pedophiles.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:20 pm#214….Grandfathers lied about their age in order to join the service during WWII. 16 is underage in America. Put simply, Foley’s emails were not wanted. Does that count for anything? It was the 16-year-old who called him “sick, sick, sick…”
September 29th, 2006 at 7:22 pm210
democrats lose elections because they are losers!
ROTFL !!
They are losers because they don’t stand for anything!!
ROTFL !!
They don;t stand for anything because they have no solid ideas!!
ROTFL !!
ROTFL !!
ROTFL !!
They don’t have any ideas because they represent people like you!
ROTFL !!
September 29th, 2006 at 7:22 pmMy grandfather fought in WWII when he was 15! Funny how fast Dems turn into gay bashers when it suits their politics.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:22 pmComment by Xanadu — September 29, 2006 @ 7:18 pm
Doesn’t “Xanadu” mean “child anal orifice” in new internet child molesting code? WoW and your calling us F*ed Up?
Damn shame that you try to demonize people who support our troops.
Comment by Republicans+are+the+fear+and+smear+party — September 29, 2006 @ 7:19 pm
who would that be ? the cut and run crowd?
September 29th, 2006 at 7:26 pmDamn shame that you try to demonize people who support our troops.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:29 pmComment by Republicans+are+the+fear+and+smear+party — September 29, 2006 @ 7:19 pmwho would that be ? the cut and run crowd?
Comment by whosaidwhatnow — September 29, 2006 @ 7:26 pmNo, the be stupid and die crowd…
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bwa ha ha ha ha !!! ROTFL !!
you say tomato, i say “cut and run”. those names listed are cut and runners, no matter what other words want to substitute. it’s hard to admit the truth isn’t it…..dork
ROTFL !! Murtha, Pelosi, Clark, Reed — all CUT AND RUNNERS!
ROTFL !!
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September 29th, 2006 at 7:30 pmOh wait, you probably didn’t know that the ONLY cut and run bills were SUBMITTED BY REPUBLICANS!!!
John Kerry is a republican now????????
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And if you didn;t know Kerry served in Vietnam. He fragged himself so he could get out of the war!
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Murtha fragged himself too!
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What Losers !!!
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September 29th, 2006 at 7:32 pmwhosaidwhatnow You sure have the Republican propaganda memorized perfectly. Why don’t you try to think for yourself you silly agnostic? Are you afraid that if there is a god he will send you to hell for disagreeing with Republicans?
September 29th, 2006 at 7:34 pm227
your bigotry and racism is showing loud and clear!
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It was only a matter of time until your true self showed up!
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Bigot! Racist !
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September 29th, 2006 at 7:35 pm!!
It’s funny how you Republicans completely forget history. Did you call Nixon a “cut and runner” when he enacted a metered withdrawal from Vietnam? Of course not. You can’t just come up with inflammatory catch phrases each time you disagree with a opposing point of view. Some wars are unwinnable, and some are winnable but would never be supported by the public (like Vietnam). This is about doing what is right for our country, what is right for Iraq, and what is right for the rest of the world.
http://www.getsomejosh.com – Check me out
September 29th, 2006 at 7:36 pmYou never did list what branch you served our country in or what base you were stationed at or what wars you served during. Chicken hawk. bawk bawk bawk bawk.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:38 pm228
there was no “demand” on my part. Show me where i said “demand”. I ‘asked’ for the links, which somehow just never were posted, so I’ll have to take what spudhead said as heresay.
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You are so dense “b” — it was KERRY got 13 votes supporting his cut and run bill a few months ago!
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You’re not SMART ENOUGH TO know that Kerry is a democrat and not a republican ?
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September 29th, 2006 at 7:39 pmDamn shame that you try to demonize people who support our troops.
We are all taxpayers, thus we all support the troops.
The question is do we support sending troops into a wag the dog war? If we do send troops into a wag the dog war then it’s a war born of illusion.
Those whom wish the troops to leave Iraq support the troops because the war was false in it’s intent.
In effect the anti-war crowd supports the troops because this war is built upon a decade of lies. What mother or father wished their son or daughter to die in a war of lies and oil?
September 29th, 2006 at 7:41 pmwhosaidwhatnow = voice of Republican propaganda. Rant and repeat, rant and repeat, rant and repeat, etc., etc., etc.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:42 pm232
BWA HA HA HA HA – if you have to TELL SOMEONE you’re SMART then you REALLY AREN’T !!
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It’s like a woman asking if a dress makes her look fat! If she has to ask, she must think it does!
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If someone has to say “I’M SMART” then THEY’RE NOT !
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WHAT A DIMWIT YOU ARE!
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September 29th, 2006 at 7:43 pm238
its hard to admit Murtha and Kerry fragged themselves,isn;t it ?
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September 29th, 2006 at 7:45 pmhello all,
If in fact these conversations did take place, the IM messages are disgusting and a let down to all who look up to these appted. positions.
However, matters are not helped any when we have such bickering about party sides, religious preferences, and other associations.
Show yourself to make decisions and communicate positions with a conscience and awareness of the facts. I am not saying that something tragic did not happen here, but the hate and ranting above shows we all have issues to work on.
I am a christian, yes. And we need a serious change, a revolution against the dirty politics and dirty business lobbyist who are not looking out for the prosperity of the village, the nation, the earth we live on.
Wherever you are, enjoy your weekend.
And remember that little old grandma down in the southern states.., the one on the porch with a glass of lemonade for you on a summers day… she’s the lady with a heart of gold, who would rescue you when your day isn’t going so good. Thank God for such amazing people in our lives – they come in all forms…
Godspeed.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:47 pmwhosaidwhatnow and ren: as an example, the following takes the first two items of ren’s #168 and adds links as sources:
And here’s a site with more items linked to sources:
September 29th, 2006 at 7:47 pmhttp://www.mspmedia.net/2006/05/republicans-pedophila.html
The SF Chron. states the House Leadership knew about his activities over a year ago and covered it up. Wait until that hits the fan.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:47 pmman does not have wisdom or knowledge, you two ’smarties’ can drop the crap anytime now.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:48 pmYou can support the troops and not the war.
You can be a patriot and not support the president.
Anybody that thinks any different is a complete moron that has never served in the military.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:49 pm243
You have it so backwards its LAUGHABLE.
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Lefites like you are desperate to cling to any lie and fabrication that you can – anything to regain political power!
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you’re writing here is a waste of time. the only people who think you have any credibility are your cohorts who, like you, ARE IN DEEP, DEEP, REGRESSIVE DENIAL !!
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September 29th, 2006 at 7:49 pmEvery candidate running against GOP leadership better have commercials on this running by tomorrow.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:49 pmI am not saying that something tragic did not happen here, but the hate and ranting above shows we all have issues to work on.
Thank you for that logical insight, we do have issues to work on, as a whole, and not by grouping each other into classes, for when we do we offer protection to such immoral behaviour, liberal or republican. Immorality has no name.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:51 pmwhosaidwhatnow – head is too far up his ass to frag himself.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:54 pmbruthful you have a gift, do not lord it over others.
whosaidwhat is not worth the time or effort.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:01 pm264
awwww, poor little “b” .. how long have you been someone who can dish it out but not take it? Lifelong or recent?
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You sure seem to be preoccupied with pedophilia!
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What gift do you have “b” — herpes?
BWA HA HA HA HA !!
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September 29th, 2006 at 8:19 pmsomething is fishy with this whole story.
Drudge is running that the “victim” wrote “im not 18 til feb.23″.
If the victim is 16….he turns 18 in february? This sounds like a set-up.
But hey, Libs, keep the witchhunt on, convict and judge before all the facts are know. It;s what you ALWAYS DO!
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September 29th, 2006 at 8:24 pmROTFL !
Xanadu – this is not about being gay… it’s about being a pediophile. There is a difference.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:38 pmNormally, I am against the death penalty. However, i might make an exception when considering pedophiles – convicted of course – be theyGAY or STRAIGHT. But when considering the horrible “prison plight” of the convicted sex offender – a life sentence is very JUST indeed…..
September 29th, 2006 at 8:39 pmAhhh… good old fashioned Republican Family Values®.
Chuckle…
September 29th, 2006 at 8:39 pmABC News Releases Message Exchanges Between Foley And Teens
By: Jamie Holly @ 3:58 PM – PDT
ABC’s Brian Ross was the person who broke the story of Rep. Mark Foley. Tonight on ABC News, Ross gave a more indepth report, including the text of instant messages that Foley allegedly exchanged with these minors.
Video – WMV Video – QT
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Ross goes on to say that the messages “become much graphic – too graphic to be broadcast” and gone on to describe internet sex.
Later on Ross says that one page said his “entire class was warned about Foley from people involved in the program”. Now if warnings were issued, then why was action never taken? Sounds like the leadership in Congress really needs to be asked some serious questions about this.
“leadership”???
September 29th, 2006 at 8:42 pm#
The Republicans–the party of GRAFT, TORTURE, and PEDOPHILIA.
Has a nice ring to it, doesn’t it?
Comment by pbg — September 29, 2006 @ 4:37 pm
Sounds like a bumper sticker.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:43 pmWhat’s with the ‘+’ symbols added to the name?
September 29th, 2006 at 8:44 pm>And you think Americans are comfortable sending their kids off to die for no good reason.
I live in Connecticut. Only 35% of Democrats, and some smaller percentage of Independents & Republicans rank Iraq as their primary concern.
The Bush administration deserve condemnation for their stunning and utter incompetency in handling the aftermath of the initial military victory. I have seen very, very little in the ways of any alternatives given by the Democrats as a plan to stop the ongoing pooch screwing.
If you think Americans are uncomfortable with their kids dieing for no clear reason, what are you going to ask them to do? To vote to pull them out and say the died in vain? That’s not exactly the basis of successful political strategy.
> You keep thinking in your 1980s mindset and I will live in the here and now.
I don’t have a 1980s mindset. I have a good sense of history and how it impacts today.
>You know the reality where my neighbor sent here kid off to the military two months ago
>thinking the Iraq war was going to end soon. It wasn’t until I pointed out to her what Bush and >friends have said about a “long war†that she realized that her son may very well die for Bush’s >oil war. This is a girl who used to blast Bill O’Rielly in her car everyday.
I honestly can’t say whether or not she actually listened to O’Reilly since I never listen to him.
If she somehow thought the war was almost over, I simply can’t explain it other than to the frequently seen obliviousness of many Americans. And that’s something that is exploited equally by both sides.
> She has gotten over her mental illness of being a conservative sheeple. Apparently you
>haven’t. Too bad for you.
Oh, I’m hurt! You personally insulted me! Hey, in the interest of having a reasoned discussion, could you just point out for me where I insulted you?
>Times are changing my friend. Time to stop thinking like a cave man.
Wow, I’m a cave man now too! Again, did I personally insult you?
Sure, I will mock and ridicule fundamentalists. Equally — MoveON and the Christian Coalition will both be on the receiving end. There is no substantive difference between the hard left and hard right in this country — oh sure, the rhetoric is different…but they both have a single belief and goal: The believe they are absolutely right, and they want to use government to impose their beliefs on everyone.
If pointing out that the Democratic party is being ineffective in opposition to the Republicans due to the influence of the left wing of the party incites you to personally insult me, well, that’s just too darn bad.
>Also, everything you have provided to this thread has not had anything to do with the latest
>Republican pedophile.
It provides part of the recent historical context and contrast.
I stumbled on this site googling for the e-mails in question. And saw a bunch of people just bizarrely celebrating without a sense of the history of this subject and how it has influenced public opinion over the years.
>Americans like my republican mother HATE pedophiles.
Thank you for agreeing with my main point.
Americans hate pedophiles. Since 1980, we’ve had two known pedophiles and one who looks darn bad right now. One, a Republican, has outright resigned. Two others, from each party, were merely censured by a Democratically controlled house, and Democrats continued to re-elect the other.
Middle america developed a distrust of the social agenda led by the left wing of the Democrats because of actions like that.
>You guys need to stop worrying about our party and start cleaning up your own. Good luck. It
>is in grained in these people.
I’m not an English teacher, so I’m probably not qualified to try and parse that statement — like what is ingrained in who.
The Republican party, at a national level, today is as corrupted by right wing ideology as the Democrats were by left wingers when they held power. Corporate corruption will flow to whichever party is in power.
Without an effective opposition party in place, corruption grows unchecked. I’m not some Republican partisan — I’m an American and desperately would like to see the Democrats, or a successor party, become an effective opposition. Balance needs to be restored. But that’s certainly not going to come from people with no sense of history who are just living for today.
So yeah, when I see a bunch of liberals…supposedly supporters of Democratic candidates…celebrating the outing of a pedophile just because he’s a Republican, I am going to point out to them they need to remember how their past handling of pedophiles contributed to why middle America feels less comfortable with them then with with Republicans.
Right-wing Republicans don’t win elections because they’re smart, they win because the left-wing Democrats are so darn dumb.
Matt
September 29th, 2006 at 8:46 pmsomething is fishy with this whole story.
Drudge is running that the “victim†wrote “im not 18 til feb.23″.
If the victim is 16….he turns 18 in february? This sounds like a set-up.
But hey, Libs, keep the witchhunt on, convict and judge before all the facts are know. It;s what you ALWAYS DO!
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Comment by whosaidwhatnow — September 29, 2006 @ 8:24 pm
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Nice try. From what I gather, reading the ABC story, there seems to be more that one page that was involved. It may also have been going on for quite sometime before anyone had the courage to come forward.
Talk about jumping the gun before all the facts are in. Your defense is a similarly reactionary.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:48 pmFoley; Another Republican pervert going down in flames.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:53 pm
Oh man, between Chester the Molester here, and Bob Woodward’s new book, the Republicans are toast.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:54 pm276
So whosaidwhatnow believes if they’re ALMOST LEGAL, it’s OK to be a PEDOPHILE!!!!
Sorry, never said or wrote that.
TRY ANOTHER LIE !
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September 29th, 2006 at 8:54 pmLol, this is a a riot! No wonder dems can’t get elected!
Secondly, Democrats want children to have the right to an abortion, yet they aren’t legally able to decide to have sex at a certain age. A bit contradictory, they can’t decide to have sex yet they can decide to have a major medical procedure without notifying their parents. That is lunacy.
As for Foley, I would have no qualms about him falling into a pit of wild dogs and being ripped apart for his behavior. Yet, I would not go about making lists of pedos according to their political mindset as Dems will lose that battle very easily.
There is no honor in his actions and he was only sorry that he got caught!
According to the logic here Republicans are closet pedos and Democrats are openly pedo. Guess I should vote independant???
September 29th, 2006 at 8:56 pm“Today I have delivered a letter to the Speaker of the House informing him of my decision to resign from the U.S. House of Representatives, effective today. I thank the people of Florida’s 16th Congressional District for giving me the opportunity to serve them for the last twelve years; it has been an honor. I am deeply sorry and I apologize for letting down my family and the people of Florida I have had the privilege to represent.”
- Mark Foley
Hey whosaidwhatnow, if he’s being setup I wonder why he’s resigning and apologizing for letting his family and constituents down. Seems to be giving up awfully easy for an innocent man.
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September 29th, 2006 at 8:56 pmWhile arguments continue here, this guy is already so done, I just watched it on NBC news.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:56 pmIf there is anything further to this, as in verifiable proof he did more, then I hope they put his sorry butt in jail. There here have all the sex with men that he truly desires.
September 29th, 2006 at 9:01 pmThe page worked for Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La., who said Friday that when he learned of the e-mail exchanges 10 to 11 months ago, he called the teen’s parents. Alexander told the Ruston Daily Leader, “We also notified the House leadership that there might be a potential problem,” a reference to the House’s Republican leaders.
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Alexander said the boy notified a staffer in his office about the e-mails. The congressman said he learned of it from a reporter 10 or 11 months ago and promptly called the boy’s parents.
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Like I said, whosaidwhatnow, this has probably been going on for quite sometime, hence the age discrepancy in Drudge’s report.
Nice try at damage control loser. Try doing some research next time before you go shooting your stupid mouth off.
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:02 pm>Normally, I am against the death penalty. However, i might make an exception when
>considering pedophiles – convicted of course – be theyGAY or STRAIGHT. But when
>considering the horrible “prison plight†of the convicted sex offender – a life sentence is very >JUST indeed…..
No reason to impose the death penalty.
If we’re willing to take life, we should be willing to take testicles. And in the majority of sexual offenders, castration will significantly reduce if not outright eliminate the hazard. Sure, have high standards such as being a multiple-offender.
But thousands of years of animal husbandry have given us plenty of knowledge of how to significantly reduce the sexual impulse in mammals when free-will is unable to control it.
There is no need or use for the death penalty in our society for crimes against individuals. We as a nation state and society have the resources to safely imprison these persons.
Matt
September 29th, 2006 at 9:04 pm# 285
Did you flunk reading comprehension? My guess is yes. You will not find what you say I wrote in ANY of my postings.
I never said or wrote that “Foley is innocent.” The only points I made (before all the name-calling from “Tolerant Big Tent Democrats”) is that some of the commenters here were very quick to judge this guy before all the facts are in. I never defended Foley’s actions – only attempted to make the Libs put their blood lust is ahead of facts. And the age thing, with the news reporting that “a 16 yr old…..” with the contradiction that the 16 yr old IM’ing he will be “18 next February.”
I expect nothing less from liberals who cannibalize their own party (Lieberman) as well as spew nothing but hatred for anyone who doesn’t fully agree with them.
“TOLERANT DEMOCRATS?”
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JPV=sh*thead. Just a cranium full of it.
September 29th, 2006 at 9:08 pmAccording to AmericaBlog, Hastert knew about Foley a long time ago and let him remain in place. (Sounds like the Catholic Church heirarchy.)
I heard tonight that new classes of pages were warned about Foley.
Foley’s “instant message” communications with yet another underage boy, circa 2003, have now been posted by ABC. They are horrendous. Denny Hastert knew about Foley using the Net to chat-up underage boys a year ago and DID NOTHING (you’ll recall that the email conversations we posted earlier were around the time of Hurricane Katrina last year).
Tell me why Denny Hastert shouldn’t be forced to immediately resign. They left your kids with this man AFTER they knew what he was doing. They let him stay in the GOP leadership. They let him remain the chair of the child sex offender caucus.
September 29th, 2006 at 9:10 pmEnough of the Right vs. Left BS. Face facts, BOTH party’s are corrupt beyond any redemption.
If you want real change, boot them all out and stop falling for all this partisan nonsense. They WANT you to ague amongst each other to keep people divided and keep you from seeing the potential of voting for other parties.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!
September 29th, 2006 at 9:13 pmbtruthless #289
No, I never said or wrote what you are accusing me of, which is why you are getting soooo defensive.
Defensiveness is the trademark of Libs like you when the points you try to make hold no water and are in vain.
Nice Try – try again bliar.
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:13 pmSpoken like a true loser who no longer can defend his/her asinine rhetroic.
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:15 pm>>Two others, from each party, were merely censured by a Democratically controlled house,
>>and Democrats continued to re-elect the other. Matt
>>Comment by Dal90″
>Proof?
>Or do you prefer to do what MOST CRAZY CHRISTIANS do.
>Just LIE without EVIDENCE
First, it might surprise you to know I’m not exactly a crazy christian. I refused to be confirmed as a Catholic when I was, oh, 12 years old. And I haven’t taken communion since I was 10 or so. And I have not been in a church of any denomination except for ceremonial reasons since.
I hope the Washington Post is authoritative evidence for you —
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/congress.htm
Scroll down to 1983.
Matt
September 29th, 2006 at 9:17 pmBOTH party’s are corrupt beyond any redemption.
Spoken like a true loser who no longer can defend his/her asinine rhetroic.
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:19 pm# 297
Hey – the facts don’t matter to most of the commenters here. If they believe you are a “Christian Right Winger” nothing you say or write here will change that. Believe me, I know…..
Remember Dal90 — facts don’t mean that liberals will change their mind or what they already believe .
Good luck.
September 29th, 2006 at 9:21 pm#
BOTH party’s are corrupt beyond any redemption.
Spoken like a true loser who no longer can defend his/her asinine rhetroic.
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Comment by whosaidwhatnow — September 29, 2006 @ 9:19 pm
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What rhetoric? Stop making assumptions regarding my party affiliation. I’m neither a Republican or a Democrat and I’ve never been registered to either party. I would have thought that I made that fact fairly clear.
So then, what is the asinine rhetoric that I can no longer defend?
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:23 pm300 & 301
I never defended pedophilia and you cannot find one place on these posts where I did.
You may think that I did, but you are wrong.
You sure seem to have an abnormal interest in what transpired between Foley and the former page. Why, it seems like an obsession of yours!
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And there’s a lot of time now between your comments considering the time – stamp of your posts.
WHAT IS IT YOU ARE USING TO TYPE WITH ?
BWA HA HA HA HA HA!
ISH !!! I dont want to know !
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:30 pmBruthful and whosaidwhatnow are in an endurance contest here.
September 29th, 2006 at 9:31 pmwhosaidwhatnow sucks ass.
September 29th, 2006 at 9:32 pmwhosaidwhatnowsucksass
September 29th, 2006 at 9:32 pmwhosaidwhatnowsucksass.
September 29th, 2006 at 9:32 pmwhosaidwhatnowsucksass..
September 29th, 2006 at 9:33 pm303
“I’m neither a Republican or a Democrat …”
spoken like a true closet liberal who is afraid to admit who he truly is.
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:33 pmROTFL !!
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:34 pm306, 7, 8, 9
Whew, your intellectual skills in debate really are those of mental midgets!
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Did you get that supine intellect from a howard dean talking points memo ?
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:36 pmIt was a much more naive time for BOTH PARTIES, and I give both parties slack for that era.
Spoken like a true pacifist !
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:38 pmtrying to find something on tv to change my mood… heh…
but finding an nbc program, dateline, about online predators… well, isn’t that entrapment? … whatever…
the point i want to make is – i wish these types of shows would put their resources and efforts into exposing the criminals in government…
i do remember when that’s what got these shows started… investigative reporting, consumer reports… i miss that… a well informed populace…
sex sells…
September 29th, 2006 at 9:41 pmwhosaidwhatnow: I never said or wrote that “Foley is innocent.â€
No but you did say…
whosaidwhatnow: something is fishy with this whole story.
Drudge is running that the “victim†wrote “im not 18 til feb.23″.
If the victim is 16….he turns 18 in february? This sounds like a set-up.
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So what’s the idea here. He’s not innocent but he’s just being set-up?
Makes no sense dude. Seems like you’re making contradictory statements here. Not that I would expect a moronic absolutist type thinker to ever admit that they might be wrong.
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:41 pmWhy are you so OBSESSED with defending REPUBLICAN PEDOPHILES?
you cannot find any words on this post where I defended Foley or any other pedophile. And this is the reason you are so bent out of shape on repeating the lie that I did.
You are so obviously obsessed with pedophilia it is scary.
“[you] care about the welfare of children.
I’ll bet you do you sick, perverted mental patient you !
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:43 pmOh yeah, you haven’t answered yet (not that I ever expect you to) but what is the asinine rhetoric that I can no longer defend?
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:45 pmC’mon… what is the asinine rhetoric that I can no longer defend?
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:48 pm323
You’re not getting the reaction you’d like out of me, which is why you’re getting so bent out of shape.
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You don’t think the chronological — —uh, big word for you …. it means the time-order of a chain of events —- didn’t sound suspicious? Of course, you would want to allow the facts to come out if it had been a Liberal accused of these charges. Oh, of course. Everything through the lens of your narrow political view.
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:48 pmIf any of you didn’t see K.O. on Countdown tonight please catch the repeat later. They expose some of the instant messages that Mark Foley sent to a teenager in a chat room. SICK Bastard!!! Lots of other awesome material to be seen. Catch the repeat. One of the highlights is when he calls Roger Ailes of Fox News a fat ass! It’s killer!
September 29th, 2006 at 9:49 pmC’mon… I know that you can do it. What is the asinine rhetoric that I can no longer defend?
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:51 pmI’m waiting…
September 29th, 2006 at 9:54 pmStop distracting him. He needs to quote some of that asinine rhetoric that I can no longer defend.
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September 29th, 2006 at 9:55 pmStill waiting.
September 29th, 2006 at 9:56 pmThis isn’t a new thing for Republicans. WASH. D.C. Police raided a PEDOPHILE ring in the White House in 1989. THIS BANNED EDITION OF THE WASHINGTON TIMES WAS DESTROYED EN MASSE BY GEORGE H. W. BUSH. THIS TURNED OUT TO BE NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT REPORTS STARTED TO SIFT OUT THAT THEN VICE-PRESIDENT BUSH WAS A KNOWN PEDOPHILE!
CATCHES V.P. BUSH AND PRESIDENT REAGAN
See copy of headline here:
http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/BACKUP%20PAGES/WASHINGTON%20TIMES%20SMOKING%20GUN.htm
September 29th, 2006 at 9:59 pm“Foley’s aides initially blamed Democratic rival Tim Mahoney and Democrats with attempting to smear the congressman before the election.”
Republicans smearing Democrats in order to accuse them of smearing Republicans. Republicans have this smear thing down like professionals.
September 29th, 2006 at 10:01 pmWhat about the asinine rhetoric that I can no longer defend?
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September 29th, 2006 at 10:01 pm> apologize Dal90, I do see the underage entries, I wrongly accused you – I am sorry!
Thank you and apology accepted.
>The only potentially underage case was in the 1990s wasn’t a gay affair.
I don’t even know why we care about homo/hetero here.
>I did notice that most of those (underage cases) occurred in the 1970s.
>That’s long before america really had a clue that this was a big problem!
>It was a much more naive time for BOTH PARTIES, and I give both parties slack for that era.
>Frankly I’m more interested in the last 10-15 years.
Yes, and no.
And that’s where the lack of perspective and trying to see everything with only a 15 year point of view hurts.
The outrage in the Catholic Church in the U.S. during the sex scandals of the late 90s/early 00s wasn’t due to that scandal per se.
It’s roots was the sex scandals that came to light in the 1980s. At the time, many parishoners made a silent deal with the church — their outrage was kept contained, with the expectation the church leadership would deal with the problem.
What happened with the rage of 2002 wasn’t rage against the sex — it was rage against the Cardinals who had simply swept the issues under the carpet and not dealt with the problem as they had told the faithful they would.
That’s a little understood, but critical nuance in that scandal.
Stuff like the 1983 scandals contributed to doubts by middle america, with their discomfort at the excesses of liberalism. Now many people couldn’t tell you specific incidents that helped create that discomfort…but they know they grew uncomfortable with it.
September 29th, 2006 at 10:02 pmbthepedophile
you enjoy defending your fellow pederast liberals dont you ?
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You really are a fun one to get all riled up. It doesn’t take much !
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Oh – hey – dickhead , every moronic response you wrote here is asinine rhetoric.
ROTFL !!!
You’re who party of losers and sexually depraved like minded liberals spew nothing but asinine rhetoric !
ROTFL !!
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Continue in your deep denial !!
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September 29th, 2006 at 10:06 pmJPV = Just Plain Vapid !
ROTFL!!!
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September 29th, 2006 at 10:08 pmJPV = Just Plain Vapid !
ROTFL!!!
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Because?
September 29th, 2006 at 10:09 pmTypical lame BS. You can’t backup your statement that I’m a “a true loser who no longer can defend his/her asinine rhetroic” so you just insult me.
Nice… but typical.
ROTFL !!
ROTFL !!
September 29th, 2006 at 10:14 pmObviously, whosaidwhatnow, is quite inebriated. Not much syntax. Not very adept at context. But, what do you expect from a leader of the Kool-Aid crew? Notice the comment, “party of losers?” All they care about is people who call themselves republicans winning elections. It’s just a ball game to them. They don’t care about the future ramifications, just win the game. Cheerleaders are all they are. Just like their daddy, kiddie porn queen, George Bush. No wonder Laura smokes 2 packs of cigarettes a day!
September 29th, 2006 at 10:17 pm>Moveon isn’t the far left – but that’s a nice SMEAR, albeit 100% INACCURATE and COMPLETELY IGNORANT!!!
Hmmm, before telling other people they need a dictionary and an education, you may want to take your own advice. You may want to use those tools to figure out how an opinion can be 100% inaccurate.
Hey, but fundamentalists like to see 100% in many places, and arguing this point with you seems like arguing evolution to a bible thumping evangelical.
Your bias partially shows up by excusing the conduct of eco-terrorists as only aimed at buildings and plants, and not people…as opposed to those “crazy christians.”
Yes, it’s certain the right-wingers extremism has a greater death toll in the U.S. It doesn’t mean there haven’t been people in the extreme eco movement who have adovocated assinations. And in Europe, it seems that Pym…ah, the last name of the Dutch politician escapes me at the moment…was killed by an eco extremist probably for his advocacy of relaxing restrictions on fur farming. The eco terrorism movement has remained relatively safe to people not so much by ideology so much as it’s remained small enough and disciplined enough to not splinter and fracture into groups with diverging beliefs. When that happens, the body count will increase.
September 29th, 2006 at 10:28 pmHere’s more Republican hypocrisy:
According to several former congressional pages, the congressman used the Internet to engage in sexually explicit exchange
They say he used the screen name Maf54 on these messages provided to ABC News.
Maf54: You in your boxers, too?
Teen: Nope, just got home. I had a college interview that went late.
Maf54: Well, strip down and get relaxed.
Another message:
Maf54: What ya wearing?
Teen: tshirt and shorts
Maf54: Love to slip them off of you.
And this one:
Maf54: Do I make you a little horny?
September 29th, 2006 at 10:29 pmTeen:
“Do I make you horny, baby?”
Shagadelic!!
September 29th, 2006 at 10:35 pm# 351 Republicans Are The Fear And Smear Party: I saw that on Countdown with Keith Olbermann earlier tonight. Downright sickening! If you didn’t see it catch the repeat at midnight, eastern time.
September 29th, 2006 at 10:37 pm#351 – That’s just plain creepy. I’m glad he resigned. The cops ought to be visiting him soon.
September 29th, 2006 at 10:41 pm#354 Zooey: Let’s sit back and see just how fast the cops really do react to this. How long do you think it will take them to arrest him once he’s finally used up all his cover-up connections? I think good conscience will befall at least on good cop and he’ll press for it to be pursued. Once Foley has exhausted all options (basically every republican member of congress will effectively turn their backs on him ) I think he will have to arrange to turn himself in. And not to some right-wing getaway comfort retreat. I mean Actual jail.
Last chance at any redeemable hint of integrity? Do the right thing? Set an example? Is there one republican out there with any shred of knowledge of the meaning of ‘conducting oneself with dignity’?
September 29th, 2006 at 11:11 pmI think that Dennis Hastert has some explaining to do…
Gee, I wonder why nothing was done about this if it’s been known about for so long.
September 29th, 2006 at 11:21 pm#359 JPV: Goading insults. That’s what you get. No tangible proof. Manufactured innuendo. Repudlicans (incorrect spelling intended) just can’t seem, anymore, to have even a basic grasp of the concept of truth.
September 29th, 2006 at 11:36 pmI keep forget how the absolutist mind works…
A Republican politician like Foley gets caught molesting an underage child and it’s Clinton’s fault for being a rapist.
You criticize said politician for this behavior and you’re a pervert.
Sigh.
September 30th, 2006 at 12:20 amIs there one republican out there with any shred of knowledge of the meaning of ‘conducting oneself with dignity’?
Comment by Mr. Evil
Um, Lincoln Chafee? He voted against the interrogation bill. And, by the way, where is the thread on that?
Foley? Yeah, the cops will investigate, and the prosecutor might even pursue a case, but he’ll get a decent lawyer, and probably won’t do jail time. This whole thing was very inappropriate, but if all it was is dirty talk, well…
September 30th, 2006 at 12:29 amFoley is now a proven sexual predator and ABC News has the goods on him too > he might end up in jail if a teen comes forward with proof he got solicited by him or forced an underage boy to have sex! How many more Repubs have this problem in DC?
September 30th, 2006 at 12:34 amDamn, there goes another vote for gay marriage!
Did you see the study released recently that proves that grumpy old bastards (obviously Liberals) over 60 (stress “grumpy” and “over 60″) are smarter that Republicans under 60? I’m not making it up. See the Las Vegas Review Journal for Friday 9/29/06. You guys better pay more attention to my INTELLIGENT sarcasm!
September 30th, 2006 at 12:36 amWhat do you call a small clip of the upcoming tv news? A teaser, well anyway it was all about you know who. Words like “embarassing” were used.
September 30th, 2006 at 12:37 amYeah, getting caught molesting a child on the Internet is just… “embarrassing”.
September 30th, 2006 at 12:43 am#372 JPV: Not to mention, disgusting.
September 30th, 2006 at 12:53 amOh shit! I almost forgot: We need a new party. The American Party. Based on truth, backed by reality. Elect Paul Hackett for President in 2008.
September 30th, 2006 at 12:54 amFor those of you that would doubt my veracity (Comment # 370) go to the following site:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/ideas/bal-id.crab24sep24,1,5530535.story?ctrack=1&cset=true
For those of you that are fellow “Bush Bashers” just click on Clyde
September 30th, 2006 at 1:00 am[...] So steeped in denial, so completely incapable of admitting mistakes that they would rather allow the deaths of several thousand coalition soldiers and tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians rather than admit a mistake… all because they perceive it as a sign of weakness and an attack on their manhood (and you may have noticed how the most sexualy repressed, yet conspicuously vocal about “devient behavior” are so often Conservatives: i.e. “Mark Foley“, a vocal anti-child porn advocate that resigned Friday after it was discovered that he was sending sexually explicit e-mails to 16-year old male Page’s. Need more examples? Click Here.) [...]
September 30th, 2006 at 1:02 amMaybe my dominatrix friend will start outting these republicans and get pics of them dressed in panties and lipstick prancing around like ponies
September 30th, 2006 at 1:09 amDamn, forgot again. I’m new at punditry. We need a new party. The American Party. Based on truth, backed by reality. Elect Paul Hackett for President in 2008.rgot again.
September 30th, 2006 at 1:17 amLet’s try this one more time: I’m new at punditry. We need a new party. The American Party. Based on truth, backed by reality. Elect Paul Hackett for President in 2008.
September 30th, 2006 at 1:19 amHave you seen Rep Hastert’s homepage:
http://www.house.gov/hastert/
On top are all sorts of headlines about “protecting children on the Internet”
September 30th, 2006 at 2:49 amReally there are no homosexual pedophiles in the whitehouse ?
September 30th, 2006 at 3:39 amI read an article about a semi-human called Lawrence King,not the CNN King and some very scary action sex- killing children ringleader and GOP fundraiser. I think wild Larry went to jail without spilling the evidence on these officials in the whitehouse though.
If you can find the article beware it is graphic.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_King
I hereby regret every single time I ever typed ‘ROTFL’.
September 30th, 2006 at 4:43 am#386 Sherm; thanks for the link-I just sent Bastert an email;
September 30th, 2006 at 10:05 am
#386 Have you seen Rep Hastert’s homepage:
http://www.house.gov/hastert/
On top are all sorts of headlines about “protecting children on the Internetâ€
kind of gives you an idea of the appalling level of hypocrisy turds like Hastert exhibit. sadly this joker keeps getting re-elected and assumes victory is a license for further arrogance and abuse.
September 30th, 2006 at 10:27 amThe Bush administration was shaken on Friday by revelations from a new book by Bob Woodward, the veteran investigative reporter, which said Andrew Card, the former White House chief of staff, had twice tried to force the resignation of Donald Rumsfeld, defence secretary, over his handling of the Iraq war.
State of Denial by the Washington Post reporter who uncovered the Watergate scandal, paints a picture of an administration riven by personal rivalries, with Mr Rumsfeld at one point refusing to take calls from Condoleezza Rice, then national security adviser. It claims that even Laura Bush, President George W. Bush’s wife, had misgivings about the defence secretary.
Ms Rice “brushed off†a July 2001 briefing from the CIA director and former head of counterterrorism, about an imminent terrorist threat.
Man, the Freepers better get busy, they have a whole bunch of their own kind to denounce and smear!!
But they aren’t real republicans, righhhhhhttt?
Jaaajajajajajaa!!
September 30th, 2006 at 10:31 amYou expected something more from a group of hypocrites and corrupt self-serving anti-American pigs?
September 30th, 2006 at 10:34 amThis incident with Foley is not isolated. It is possible that it is connected with a Republican child sex ring from the late 1980s. When I first heard about it 10 years ago, I thought that it was too weird to be believed. However, now it is likely that it is true.
http://www.thelawparty.org/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm
September 30th, 2006 at 2:08 pmThis incident with Foley is not isolated. It is possible that it is connected with a Republican child sex ring from the late 1980s. When I first heard about it 10 years ago, I thought that it was too weird to be believed. However, now it is likely that it is true.
http://www.thelawparty.org/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm
Comment by huskerco — September 30, 2006 @ 2:08 pm
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Yep, I was thinking the same thing.
September 30th, 2006 at 5:31 pmWell, I hate to see you go this way Mr Foley, my congressman. I would much rather have seen you run out of office by the voters, and campaigned against you as I did not agree with you on many issues. Oh yes, and when we could find people to run against you, I always voted for them.
I remember when I needed help getting assistance for my disabled sister. Your staff at your Palm Beach County office was EXTREMELY helpful. My compliments in that department!
I also remember you changing parties after you were first elected, and turning your back on those that had worked hard to get you elected (me included). Not only did you abandon your party, you spoke out against your former supporters, your purported ideals and eventually became the consummate Washington Politician.
Your family is wonderful, I loved your Mom and sister. You came from humble beginnings and worked your way up to the US Congress – all with just a High School GED! One question though, how does a guy coming from that end up with enough money for a condominium in Vail Colorado? And to be made your party’s Whip in Congress in your first term! Wow, you must have done something for somebody somewhere!
You always had the strong support of the gay community – everybody knew you were gay even though you never admitted it in your public life. One of those secrets everybody knows anyway. It was never an issue in any campaign, it was never an issue with your constituents, even though it did keep you from running for the United States Senate.
Whatever prompted this abrupt departure from Congress – and the news is swirling – I hate to see you go this way. I wish you Good-bye! Good riddance!
September 30th, 2006 at 6:33 pmThis story has more legs than a centipede. I don’t think the Republicans can get their stories straight in time for the Sunday News shows. Wow what a train wreck. The family values neo-con conservative Christians are going to have a tough time blaming this on Clinton. Let’s see where is that blue dress?
September 30th, 2006 at 11:39 pmFor all you FLORIDANS preparing to vote in the November Florida Governor’s Election, CHARLIE CRIST IS AN “IN THE CLOSET” HOMOSEXUAL.
Now, the fact that he is Gay means nothing.
The fact that he is ‘IN THE CLOSET” and representing the Republican Party that HATES GAYS means EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!
He is divorced, no children and IN THE CLOSET.
YOU DO THE MATH!!!
October 1st, 2006 at 1:01 amSo now what, whosaidwhatnow?
Foley’s freakin’ toast, admitted he is a pedophile, and is in treatment. Ha HA, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ah, ha, ha, ah, ha.
October 2nd, 2006 at 2:51 pmThere’s some traditional family values for you. I have to laugh. What a bunch of hypocrites! The Republicans so hate gays, feminists and child molesters. As it turns out, the majority of them are actually closet gays and child molesters themselves. They say you always hate most in others traits you yourself possess. As for the feminists, well, how dare women demand an equal share in our “free” Country. What do we women want, to be treated like a human being or something?
Republicans are all about hate and intollerance. They want the people to believe they are reviving traditional family values. Have you ever heard one of these idiots actually define traditional family values? Me either. To the best of my knowledge after a little research, traditional family values is putting mom back in the house to service her husband and children and beating the bible more.
Personally, I do not believe in religion. In the eyes of our government, right wing religious nut jobs, I am a sinner but I can tell you one thing this sinner would never ever even think of doing and that is harming a child. Can they say the same?
The Republican parties new motto should be “do as I say, not as I do.”
October 2nd, 2006 at 7:21 pm[...] The old adage go, “Never get caught with a dead girl or a living boy” Foley got caught with the latter and announced his resignation today. [...]
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:06 pm[...] So who, exactly, is disrespecting our troops? Last time I checked, John Kerry wasn’t taking money from pornographers who encourage soldiers to violate military law. But hey, IOKIYR, and what’s a little buttsex between moral, godly defenders of freedom anyway? UPDATE: I actually have “Fire In The Hole”, and Midniter gave it to me! Why does Midniter hate America? [...]
November 3rd, 2006 at 9:27 pm