Hastert: Liberals Want To Take ‘The 130 Most Treacherous People In The World’ and ‘Release Them Out In The Public’
Hastert: Liberals Want To Take ‘The 130 Most Treacherous People In The World’ and ‘Release Them Out In The Public’
House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL) said earlier this week that liberals wanted to “coddle” terrorists. Asked about his comments today on Fox News, Hastert expanded his criticisms. According to Hastert, liberals want to take “the 130 most treacherous people, probably in the world…and release them out in the public eventually.” Watch it:
Transcripts:
ASMAN: More on terrorism, though, Speaker Hastert. The president has taken his gloves off, using some pretty tough language with the democrats with regards to security. And you certainly have. You said terrorists would be coddled if we followed the Democrats’ game plan. Do you think the Democrats are coddling terrorists?
HASTERT: I think what they do is, they are so bent on protecting criminals and going through the process and not expediting these people who really want to take our lives, to murder us, and you know, we’ve seen it time and time again. We just saw it just now with the ms-13 gangs, trying to stop them from coming into the country and the liberal Democrats in the Senate blocked it.
ASMAN: But again “coddling terrorists.” You say democrats are doing that. That’s really tough language.
HASTERT: I’m saying what they’re doing is they’re not allowing us to prosecute these people. They’re not allowing us to — the 130 most treacherous people, probably in the world, and they want to put them and release them out in the public eventually.
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This gross generalization is ready to make me regurgitate already! The GOP has nothing positive to spin so they have to make it look like because we want our constitutional rights preserved that we are pro terrorism…give me a break! Do they think people are morons?
September 29th, 2006 at 5:15 pmWhy is he not called a liar and brought forth to the ethics comitee for outrageous lies this is beyond the norms of politics.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:17 pmThat’s all you see on this site.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:19 pmLiberal response should be:
REPUBLICANS SUPPORT RAPE AND SODOMY!!!!!
September 29th, 2006 at 5:20 pmHe sounds really desperate, the GOP is desperate, they know the clock is ticking for november and they don’t like at all what they are seeing.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:21 pmWhat a sick, desperate Republican.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:22 pmSorry Dennis, but the top 3 , Bush, Cheney, Rumsfelf are already free to roam about.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:23 pmthis fellow is one of the ones going down. remember when tommy “echo” delay raised a whole buncha money for his campaign, and then spent it on his defense fund? what was it Yogi Berra said?
September 29th, 2006 at 5:24 pmBesides, it’s not true - Jack Abrahmoff and Tom Delay are numbers 4 and 7 on the list, and we want them locked away for life.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:24 pmNot just 130 — we want to beat ALL the Congressional Republicans.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:24 pmIf DEMS dont come out and refute this stuff it starts to stick!!!!!
DO SOMETHING DEMS ….NOW…
You sat back and let them pass this unconstitutional bill and now you are letting them smear you left and right in a coordinated manner (Joh Boehner, Bush and Hastert have pushed the DEMS coddle terrorists meme all week long)….get off your asses and represent us please…!!!!
jeez DEMS really really suck this week…….
September 29th, 2006 at 5:26 pmLadies and gentlemen, may I introduce House Minority Whip Dennis Hastert…
September 29th, 2006 at 5:27 pmHastert: Liberals Want To Take ‘The 130 Most Treacherous People In The World’ and ‘Release Them Out In The Public’ - - Harumph. We have no interest in releasing the Republican pedophiles on an unsuspecting world.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:31 pmThe 12 Democratic Senators who voted today to protect Bush from War Crimes are…
Tom Carper of Delaware - (202) 224-2441
September 29th, 2006 at 5:32 pmTim Johnson of South Dakota - (202) 224-5842
Mary Landrieu of Louisiana (202) 224-5824
Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey - (202-224-3224
Senator Menendez of New Jersey - (202) 224-4744
Bill Nelson of Florida - (202) 224-5274
Ben Nelson of Nebraska - (202) 224-6551
Senator Pryor of Arkansas - (202) 224-2353
Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia (202) 224-6472
Ken Salazar of Colorado - (202) 224-5852
Debbie Stabenow of Michigan - (202) 224-4822
Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut 202) 224-4041
Actually….this liberal would like to see 200 plus from the House, 55 or more from the Senate and the whole executive branch (plus assorted appointees) incarcerated as the double most treacherous critters on the planet…..but, that’s not going to happen….
As to those 130 in question, give them their day in court and let the chips fall where they may….if they’re guilty, they can become bubba’s bitch, if not…..win some, lose some….either way, it’s what that piece of paper calls for….
September 29th, 2006 at 5:33 pmDo no trust a man with no neck
September 29th, 2006 at 5:35 pmAnd that’s how they’re gonna win in November. Democrats never fight back, cause if they do, it’s going to get spun to their disadvantage - re: Clinton/Fox. And now that the oil price isn’t at a record high - for the moment - polls show 50% of americans who weren’t satisfied with the economy three month ago - suddenly are. How naive can you be? And in the voting booth they’re going to decide with the value vote - cause gays and abortion is the greatest threat to us all.
And the rest will be taken care of with voting fraud.
Maybe America doesn’t deserve better. Too bad the rest of the world has to live with it too.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:36 pm#15 - and among those 55 from the Senate - do they include the 12 Dems who voted to protect Bush from war crimes prosecution today? They voted for the Tribunal bill giving Bush cover retroactively, rescinding habeas corpus in military tribunals, and allowing torture to continue… What kind of Democrat is that who votes that way? A traitororous kind.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:37 pmI wonder if this Liberal “Straw Man” that wants to release ‘The 130 Most Treacherous People In The World’ has a name?
Another day, another pile of BS. What a surprise.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:38 pmPersonally, I think the world would be better served if Dennis Hastert sought treatment for his food addiction.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:40 pmI ask you all, what kind of Democrat votes for protecting Bush from war crimes prosecution? What kind of Democrat? Do you even care or are you just blind party loyals? If so, you are no better than the Republicans. In fact, you may be worse because you delude yourselves into thinking you have the higher moral ground.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:40 pmMan, the rhetoric these guys employ is sounding more and more outlandish, more and more desparate.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:40 pmOk since the Liberals are against tribunals and want to close Gitmo how is this statement wrong?
September 29th, 2006 at 5:41 pmHow do we know they are all dangerous? None have even been tried yet. Will Mr. Hastert go ahead and have the heart attack already please?
He should be impeached along with Bush, Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and anyone else that thinks torture and ignoring centuries of international law is a-okay.
We should expand Gitmo so these hawks can have their place in the sun.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:41 pmI believe in an America that does not torture.
What do the Democratic Senators believe who voted today to protect Bush from war crimes prosecution?
September 29th, 2006 at 5:42 pmThere has to be some sort of trust for there to be some sort of treachery, as far as the general definition goes. Now, assuming that this fellow isnt as much of a fool as he pretends to be on the television, we can safely assume that the use of the word “treacherous” is an allusion to the fact that these people truly believe the majority of the middle east is on our side. See how they work that in?
This guy really needs to stop talking about how our good ‘ol terrorist buddies are going to stab us in the backs (gasp) and jump on the “Gay marriage killed the dinosaurs and created the atomic bomb” bandwagon.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:43 pmWe need to know exactly which Dems are coddling terrorists. Why isn’t he naming names? He must be hiding something. To the waterboard with his fat ass!
September 29th, 2006 at 5:44 pmThe right winger republicans are usIng “Terrorism” to distract th public from all the corruption in their party…. sad
September 29th, 2006 at 5:45 pmIf the American people are still buying this crap, perhaps we’re not as great a country as I grew up believing we were. It’s really sad that people can go on mainstream TV and trash talk like this and not be challenged. Very sad.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:45 pmI believe in an America that does not torture.
What do the Democratic Senators believe who voted today to protect Bush from war crimes prosecution?
The blackest day in Congressional history, the rescinding of Habeas Corpus and Thinkprogress won’t even discuss the issue. You guys are frauds. You don’t give a damn about this country. YOu are just party hacks, or military creeps sitting pretty in your cushy taxpayer paid chairs waxing snidely about Bush, but you don’t really give a damn about this country do you
The following 12 Judas’ voted for the Tribunal Bill today which protects BUsh from prosecution for war crimes. DO YOU EVEN CARE????????
Tom Carper of Delaware - (202) 224-2441
September 29th, 2006 at 5:46 pmTim Johnson of South Dakota - (202) 224-5842
Mary Landrieu of Louisiana (202) 224-5824
Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey - (202-224-3224
Senator Menendez of New Jersey - (202) 224-4744
Bill Nelson of Florida - (202) 224-5274
Ben Nelson of Nebraska - (202) 224-6551
Senator Pryor of Arkansas - (202) 224-2353
Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia (202) 224-6472
Ken Salazar of Colorado - (202) 224-5852
Debbie Stabenow of Michigan - (202) 224-4822
Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut 202) 224-4041
I think Denny’s the one who has been coddled. He’s definitely had way too much red meat.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:47 pmSonsofTureen….
When I said “55 or moreâ€, I believe one could rightfully interpret that to include some Dems…..ya think?
September 29th, 2006 at 5:47 pm#23:
September 29th, 2006 at 5:50 pmLiberals, and others who respect the rule of law (real law, not that crap that got signed yesterday) are not saying “release them all”. The tribunals are illegal. The treatment of prisoners in Gitmo is illegal. Our country looks like a dictatorship because we are abdicating the very rights and principles upon which our country was founded.
And as a retired soldier, are you getting the aid you need from the VA? If so, you are one of the few since this administration continually cuts veteran benefits.
Freedom means more than just being able to talk smack about people you don’t like. It also means that people are innocent until proven guilty, even if they are from a country that harbors terrorists. Or even if they are from a country that didn’t harbor terrorists (but GWB said it did).
It is the responsibility of a free press to expose this kind of crap.
These talking head won’t do their job anymore, leaving Americans without the resources to determine truth from outright fabrications… unless they take the initiative and google for truth.
Most Americans are too lazy to do that.
“Our liberty cannot be guarded but by the freedom of the press, nor that be limited without danger of losing it.” –Thomas Jefferson to John Jay, 1786.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:51 pm32 So that’s it? That’s all you have to say? Your smart remark and that’s it. The Democrats sold us out today and that’s all you have to say? What is your problem? Do you not care about your rights and the Constitution, do you not care about Habeaus Corpus?
Would it make any difference right now if the majority in the Congress were Democrats. Would they have voted for this bill anyway? If so, why bother to vote for them. If that’s true The Democratic party is as bad as the Republican party. And we have one party. So why go on and on about Hastert says this or Bush says that. What difference does it make? It’s all theatre. Right? Just entertainment for the bloggers so they can chew on something on Friday nights.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:51 pmWould that be the Republican House Caucus he’s referring to?
September 29th, 2006 at 5:51 pmWow..it is true…
Democrats will, in fact, let terrorists kill you.
Incredible…Republican fear-mongers strike again.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:52 pmFedup
September 29th, 2006 at 5:52 pmTell that to the 12 Democratic senators who voted to protect Bush
big deal haster….I say bull, liberals don’t say that at all, so stop putting words in liberal mouths…in other words LIEING.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:53 pm#23
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Ok since the Liberals are against tribunals and want to close Gitmo how is this statement wrong?
Comment by Retired+Republican+Soldier — September 29, 2006 @ 5:41 pm
Since you’re always wrong about everything, why do you even bother to speak?
September 29th, 2006 at 5:55 pmHe is absolutely right!
And evert f^^^^^g one of them is a Republican Senator or Representative scheduled to be realeased on 20 January 2007.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:57 pmIf you hate Denny soooo much, throw his opponenet, Progressive Democrat John Laesch a finback or a sawbuck. If you really dislike him, well, put two zero’s after my suggestion.
September 29th, 2006 at 5:57 pmChimpeach
September 29th, 2006 at 6:00 pmSInce you don’t care that the Democrats voted to protect Bush from war crimes prosecution, why is your signature Chimpeach. Cause it ain’t gonna happen on the Democrats watch. You know that now. You must know that now. Or are you too stupid.
None of the people in Gitmo have been charge with anything let alone found guilty of anything. How can they be the “most dangerous” people in the world if it hasn’t been proven?
September 29th, 2006 at 6:02 pmSpudgeBoy
September 29th, 2006 at 6:04 pmWhy don’t you ask the 12 Democratic Senators who voted to continue their torture - maybe they can tell you the answer.
SonsofTureen….
Please take your meds….you’re inventing assumptions that aren’t valid and it ain’t pretty….
September 29th, 2006 at 6:05 pmYeah well, my strawman thinks Dennis Hastert’s strawman is a big poopy head.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:05 pm#11
You can’t interpret every stupid public statement by the Rethugs as being a defeat for the Dems. Look, they’re going to say what they’re going to say. In light of all the shit that’s raining down on the GOP today, I don’t see how anyone can say “jeez DEMS really really suck this week”.
Yeah, we had 12 sorry-ass Dems side with the Rethugs on torture. The bill is probably not going to survive a court challenge anyway. So, they squeaked it through before the election. The election may well change everything. At any rate, between Woodward’s book, 485 Abramoff contacts with the White House, Mehlman getting caught in dirty deals, a GOP rep resigning for hitting on a teenage male intern, Allen’s N-word problems, and everything else that’s been coming out against the GOP, if you can still say this has been a bad week for the Dems, you’ve got a perception problem.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:05 pmpeterh
September 29th, 2006 at 6:06 pmanswer the question - you won’t will you - you have no answer - you’re just like those turncoat Democratic Senators - no guts
#33 well said. We are a country of laws. We are not cowards. This continual fear machine is running on empty. If we have something on the detainees, or enemy combatants, or whatever the neocon word of the day is then lets try them in our courts. If guilty then put them to death (the most henious of crimes) or long sentences. I’m fine with that. But to put somebody in a prison outside of our country with the purpose of avoiding our own laws is trying to go around our laws. It’s making a mockery of what has been built on the backs and the deaths of many Americans before us.
Complete bullshit to use fear as the motivator and then duck the Constitution. Complete bullshit.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:06 pmSonsofTureen,
Hey dummy, Before you go attackin’ the wrong people on this board, why don’t you find out who the first person on this board is that posted the names of the 12 DINOs that allowed our Constitution to get raped yesterday.
That would be me.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:07 pmGuess Hastert got in the wrong line when god was handing out brains because he has shit for brains. He must have been in the colon line and pointed to his head and said “Put it right here”. What a creep. He is traitor to this nation and should be shot. I’m just waiting for the skeletons to start falling out of his closet.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:07 pmhellinabucket
You are wrong on two counts -
The 12 Democratic Senators who voted to protect Bush from war crimes prosecution today are cowards. Those same senators voted to rescind Habeas Corpus so we are no longer a nation of laws
September 29th, 2006 at 6:08 pmSpudgeBoy
September 29th, 2006 at 6:08 pmNo it was me
what was it Yogi Berra said?
Deje vu all over again?
September 29th, 2006 at 6:09 pm“…the 130 most treacherous people, probably in the world…”
Actually, Mr. Hastert, there are 271 Republicans in Congress, not 130.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:09 pmWe must respond with the equally preposterous:
Republicans want the right to arrest American citizens who oppose them,
hold them without charge, indefinitely, and torture them at will.
Ooops, that is not so preposterous.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:10 pmSpudgeBoy
I’ll post them again and ask you how many you’ve called so far.
Tom Carper of Delaware - (202) 224-2441
September 29th, 2006 at 6:10 pmTim Johnson of South Dakota - (202) 224-5842
Mary Landrieu of Louisiana (202) 224-5824
Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey - (202-224-3224
Senator Menendez of New Jersey - (202) 224-4744
Bill Nelson of Florida - (202) 224-5274
Ben Nelson of Nebraska - (202) 224-6551
Senator Pryor of Arkansas - (202) 224-2353
Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia (202) 224-6472
Ken Salazar of Colorado - (202) 224-5852
Debbie Stabenow of Michigan - (202) 224-4822
Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut 202) 224-4041
SpudgeBoy
September 29th, 2006 at 6:11 pmI’m called the first 5 in the list. Where have you gotten to?
How many have you called?
September 29th, 2006 at 6:15 pmMy Democratic Congressman, Tim Holden, voted in “yea” in support of this bill and he has no opponent because the Republican candidate just dropped out of the race. This is shameful and Tim Holden is going down in the next primary. It’s time for a change and Tim is no Democrat.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:15 pm#43 Soup Tureen
SInce you don’t care that the Democrats voted to protect Bush from war crimes prosecution, why is your signature Chimpeach. Cause it ain’t gonna happen on the Democrats watch. You know that now. You must know that now. Or are you too stupid.
Since you like putting words into other people’s mouths so you can argue with them, why don’t you go work for Fox News? That’s their stock in trade.
Since you don’t have a point, why don’t you go sharpen the one on top of your head?
Since you have no idea what I do or don’t care about, and you have absolutely nothing to base your wrong assumption on, why don’t you go take a flying f*ck?
I’m glad you’re clairvoyant and can see that there won’t be an impeachment if the Dems take over Congress. Gosh, we can learn so much from you. So, if the Dems won’t do it and the Rethugs won’t do it, I guess there’s no hope. All is lost. You might as well go jump in front of a semi. Seeya.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:15 pmSpudgeBoy
September 29th, 2006 at 6:15 pmHow many have you called?
BTW, all of these people are DINOs. Our calls and e-mails do no good. Do you know what a DINO is. Think Republican spy. They are not on our side. You are the n00b here, not me.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:16 pmChimpeach
September 29th, 2006 at 6:16 pmYou are a dope. ‘nough said
So, we got us a troll in sheeple clothing.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:18 pmmr. haster…please comment on Foley, the perv. he a Republican/Christan or…is he a terrrrus….should we torture him offshore? Hold him indefinately?
September 29th, 2006 at 6:19 pmI ask you again
September 29th, 2006 at 6:20 pmHow many have you called SpudgeBoy. You posted their names, did you call them?
#14 Turd of Sunseen
The 12 Democratic Senators who voted today to protect Bush from War Crimes are…
It was yesterday, brilliance.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:20 pmfor sonsoftureen:
you will find some good stories and information here also:
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/
something to think about, credit to randi rhodes…
September 29th, 2006 at 6:21 pmit’s not hard to imagine that one reason bushco want to spy and wiretap is to keep close tabs and watch on political “enemiesâ€â€¦ not hard to imagine that he/they have been very busy doing just that…
all that considered, it’s not hard to imagine that many of those reps and senators have been blackmailed, or at the least coerced, into voting and abiding according to bushco wishes…
doesn’t excuse them, but you all know it’s a possibility…
…
Here’s the email I sent each and every one of the derelicts!
Shame on you for voting with the Republicans to rescind Habeus Corpus and to forgive the Bush Regime their criminal behavior!
September 29th, 2006 at 6:23 pm#65 Stunned and Turned Green
Chimpeach
You are a dope. ‘nough said
I’ve never been so insulted by a third-grader in all my life. How dare you?
Not to get too personal here, but do you ride to school on a long bus or a short bus?
September 29th, 2006 at 6:24 pmComment by Retired+Republican+Soldier — September 29, 2006 @ 5:41 pm
Well, let me see, hmmm…gosh, I don’t know. I guess it’s perfectly alright to condemn someone and sentence them to death before a trial. That’s it by God! These people are guilty if the President says so. And, gosh, if you give them a trial, you might just exhonerate them.
So, RRS, if Bush and Co are hauled into an International Tribunal for War Crimes, we don’t need to bother with the actual trial or evidence, just have them executed. On TV. Since you support them, you can join them as a co-conspirator.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:25 pmKaty
September 29th, 2006 at 6:27 pmI asked Sen Johnson’s staffer how much Johnson was paid to vote for the bill. The staffer snickered and said Senators aren’t paid for voting.
Outraged-in-Louisville
September 29th, 2006 at 6:28 pmFabulous. I think i will ask the remaining Senators to resign also. So far I’ve called up through the Nelsons.
He doesn’t need to get paid, because he is a friggin’ DINO.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:29 pmRucerious
September 29th, 2006 at 6:32 pmExcellent. I am now going to call Senator Pryor, he’s next on the list, and suggest he resign for selling out our Habeas Corpus rights and for protecting Bush from war crimes prosecution.
When the fat pig - or anyone - makes an outrageous comment like this, they need to be told right then and there that ridiculous claims won’t be tolerated.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:32 pmOh, wait — he was on Fox! They not only allow ridiculous claims, they make up their own.
for RRS:
6/14/06…President Bush said Wednesday that he’d like to close the U.S. military-run prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where three detainees committed suicide Saturday. He said he was awaiting a Supreme Court decision about how terrorism suspects there could be tried.
“I’d like to close Guantanamo, but I also recognize that we’re holding some people there that are darn dangerous and that we better have a plan to deal with them in our courts,” Bush said at a news conference in the White House Rose Garden.
It was the second time in recent weeks that Bush has said he hoped to eventually shut down the prison, where 460 mostly Muslim foreigners are being held as unlawful enemy combatants.
…
http://www.usatoday.com/ news/ washington/ 2006-06-14-bush-gitmo_x.htm
so, the supreme court has spoken, and he changes the rules…
September 29th, 2006 at 6:33 pmimagine that…
…
I have to agree with you on the congress cowards point SonsofTureen. I was lashing out at Hastert and will continue to do so against all of the fear mongers.
This new law will soon have to face the scrutiny of the supreme court. The high crimes and misdemeanors may still come to haunt this administration.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:34 pmRRS-so, you support ripping up the Constitution? And the Bill of Rights? and the Nuremberg rulings? You also support Gestapo interrogation methods? That is exactly what you are doing. This is NOT about protecting the accused terrorists, it IS about protecting the administration from War Crimes.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:34 pmHow about giving these people public trials and lets see what the evidence in court proves. Why would I believe another Republican crook? Like your words have meaning? I’m willing to wager the vast majority of detainees are props for this morally/politically bakrupt “War on Terror”. If they are criminals, put them on trial and let a jury convict them. If they are innocent, let them go.
200,000 Americans have died in car accidents over the past 5 years….if there is a threat to Americans, it’s not Islamofascism. It’s unsafe vehicles. But we’ve spent a Trillion dollars, wasted 3,000 American soldiers, and lost our international reputation/ self-identity fighting a idea, all designed to maintain a Republican criminal majority.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:36 pmtoo bad hastert’s stupidity will be lost because one of his coworkers had to resign today
September 29th, 2006 at 6:37 pmMr. Hastert I’m more concerned about his Republican caucus members cruising near junior high schools.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:39 pmRucerious
Thanks to you I’m leaving the following message when I call the 12 Judas Democratic Senators
“You voted today to eviscerate the Constitution and to protect President Bush from war crimes prosecution, and to continue the torture …I suggest you resign, it is the only honorable thing to do.”
September 29th, 2006 at 6:44 pmInnocentByStander
How about giving these people public trials and seeing the evidence…
Haven’t you heard, or maybe you have and I’ve confused you with someone else
the Republicans and the Judas Democrats voted yesterday and today to prevent people from having public trials
September 29th, 2006 at 6:50 pmthe fat idiot crooked money grubbing meatball speaks , the so called terrorist love idiots like this a fine recruiting tool he is, keep up the good work blind and stupid
September 29th, 2006 at 6:50 pmRepublican lawmakers only say this kind of trash on FOX because they know that not only will the trash talk not be challenged, but that the talking head will agree and repeat the trash over and over.
How pathetic.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:53 pmSo how are the RNC blog ops going to play this? As outraged Democrats who want to focus on a minority % of Democrats while letting the entire Republican Rupperstamp Bundt off without a word? Yeah, that sounds about right.
Here’s what I’m doing about those 12….if they have races this year, I’m rooting for them to win. When the Democrats take over Congress we will finally deal with the cancer that’s been growing for 40+ years in this country by holding the Republican Crime Syndicate accountable for breaking our Constitution and destroying our Commonwealth. After that we’ll start taking down the weak Democrats who have helped to get us where we are today.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:55 pmDenny Hastert is the biggest hump on Capitol Hill. He is the classic Illinois politician - totally craven, totally inept, totally corrupt. The fact that this guy was named Speaker of the House is, in and of itself, an indictment of the Republican Party as a whole - they are vapid, pathologically political animals who do not care about anything other than winning the next election and lining their friends’ pockets. Even by Illinois standards, Hastert is a joke.
Hey, Denny, why don’t you try to run a few laps once and awhile? Maybe cut back on the donuts, eh? At least try to look like you’ve got some self-respect, fer Chrissakes.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:58 pmBloated bag of Taurine(bullpiss).
September 29th, 2006 at 6:58 pmInnocentByStander
Don’t think for one minute that the 12 Democrats who voted for this bill can’t also be charged with aiding and abetting war crimes (too bad the voters can’t also be tried for war crimes)
MICHAEL RATNER president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, which will be bringing the lawsuits on this, had this to say today on Democracy Now.
” This was really…probably the worst piece of legislation I’ve seen in my 40-year career as a lawyer. The idea, and even the example Senator Leahy gave, of someone being picked up, you don’t need anything. The President can decide tomorrow that you, Amy, or me, or particularly a non-citizen, can be picked up, put in jail forever, essentially, and if you’re a non-citizen in Guantanamo or anywhere else in the world, you never get a chance to go to court to test your detention. It’s an incredible thing, and any senator who voted for this, in my view, is essentially guilty, guilty, guilty of undermining basic fundamental rights and may well be guilty of war crimes, as well.”
http://www.democracynow.org/ article.pl?sid=06/ 09/ 29/ 150254
September 29th, 2006 at 7:04 pmIf you believe the Dems won’t do it, and the Reps won’t do it:
Vote independent. Don’t buy into this meme that voting for the person you like is a waste of your vote, the only way to trully waste your vote is to not vote at all.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:05 pmBruce Gorton
September 29th, 2006 at 7:13 pmAnd how exactly does that square with what happened to day in the Senate? Would it have made any difference whether there were Republicans or Democrats sitting in those 12 seats - the votes would have gone the same way and our rights would have been voted into the trash can. You tell me.
Great post’s all, especiely BnF and Uncle Ho, sadly, RRS is so brain dead he doesn’t get loosing all these right’s mean every one loosing, he only get’s the reich’s spin of fear and smear…..I posted a note to him on think fast this morning and the nut bag is more concerned with games than our constitution and country..He just does not get that if the situation changes and these become laws he could be one in gitmo.When bull shit bush’s bunch remove all his vetrans benefit’s then he may get it…Many people never see past their nose, this is one….Blessings all
September 29th, 2006 at 7:15 pmOh, and just as a note: I agree with Tureen, those Democrats who voted in favour of legalising torture, should be out of a job come December, and up for war crimes charges in January. Lets show that liberal support is not a given for a Democrat up for election, lets show that liberals don’t just whine and moan to our Senators and Congressmen not listening to them and doing the right thing, liberals vote them out.
It is a standard I hold all people to, that we oppose torture, even if it may be politically inconvenient, even in the face of massive popular pressure to look the other way, because once we degenerate into accepting that, we have lost that thin veneer we call society and moved into the darkness of barbarity.
Do not support cowards, support people who are willing to stand firm for their beliefs.
American Liberals have tried to make a start with Joe Lieberman, now it is time to clean house and get rid of all of the weasels in the party. This is a matter of putting the state, above the party for once and for all.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:15 pmI think Democrats would be wise to expose the strawman technique used by the GOP. They set up a false rendering of the Democratic position and then knock it down. This happens again and again. I know it’s bad to accept their frame, but couldn’t someone point out the method to the public so they know what to look for.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:16 pmThis GOP talking point is so incredibly tired. I mean, does the giant pusbag even hear himself when he talks? Does he really believe what he’s saying in between bites of donuts and handfuls of meat?
This moron can’t be kicked out of Congress fast enough.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:16 pmHastert is scum. He was informed about the suggestive emails Foley sent to a sixteen-year-old male page nearly a year ago, and allowed a pedophile to potentially harass other young pages. The immorality of the Republican leadership is monstrous.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:17 pmBruce Gorton
September 29th, 2006 at 7:18 pmThank you for your eloquent words
Vote independent. Don’t buy into this meme that voting for the person you like is a waste of your vote, the only way to trully waste your vote is to not vote at all.
Comment by Bruce+Gorton — September 29, 2006 @ 7:05 pm
WHY DO YOU DO THIS? WHY DO YOU SAY THIS?
YOU ARE WRONG. YOU ARE NOT EVEN IN U.S.A. !
WHY DO YOU KEEP UP WITH THAT NOTION?
YOU ARE WRONG.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:19 pmHastert should’ve stuck to teaching boys how to wrestle in high school.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:21 pmBruce Gorton
I’d like to ask that people do more than not support cowards… it would be beneficial to the country if people would call the f’n cowards and call them out. So I’m posting the list again and encouraging everyone to call and tell them they are wrong, they sold us out, and they should resign or face war crimes charges for protecting torture, protecting war criminals, and for destroying the Constitution of the US.
Tom Carper of Delaware - (202) 224-2441
September 29th, 2006 at 7:22 pmTim Johnson of South Dakota - (202) 224-5842
Mary Landrieu of Louisiana (202) 224-5824
Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey - (202-224-3224
Senator Menendez of New Jersey - (202) 224-4744
Bill Nelson of Florida - (202) 224-5274
Ben Nelson of Nebraska - (202) 224-6551
Senator Pryor of Arkansas - (202) 224-2353
Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia (202) 224-6472
Ken Salazar of Colorado - (202) 224-5852
Debbie Stabenow of Michigan - (202) 224-4822
SonsofTureen
Different people would have voted no. Serious Independents take longer to corrupt, because if they didn’t believe in what they are running for they wouldn’t bother running, also an Independent has to rely on his ability to do the job well, he doesn’t have a big party backing him up the whole time.
Between your two parties you have a god complex brewing. The Democrats or the Republicans, it will always be thus if you listen to either side. Now tell me, why should it? I mean, logically speaking you are an American, there is no reason why you should have to vote either party, so why shouldn’t you pick a third option that hasn’t been tarred and feathered with corruption, mad-administration and the rubber stamp?
People are not automatons, people don’t all think the same things in the same situation, and what you need now are people, not political parties. You don’t need the Democrats or the Republicans fighting it out each with a party wide agenda, you need honest individuals arguing for what is best for America, and for what America stands.
Now there are Democrats AND Republicans who are like that, but only a precious few. It is time for the rest to go, and it is time to make the painful change. If the charge “They did it too” is strong enough to stick, it is time you voted for neither guilty party, and for someone new. It is time for Americans, to take back America from the two parties, whose only real difference is in which party is currently in power, and hence taking the most in bribes.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:24 pmSonsOfTurin: “Would it make any difference right now if the majority in the Congress were Democrats.”
Ok, sorry, but that’s just stupid, possibly intentionally so. If Dems had the majority, this bill would have never come up. Why would democrats fashion a bill to let Bush off the hook for war crimes? If Dems had the majority, they would have issued subpoenas long ago regarding all manner of constitutional abuses by this administration.
Retired Repub Soldier, try to clear your mind of BS. Do you really believe that Democrats want to release violent terrorists into the general population. Really. Do you believe that???!!! Because if you do, seek psychiatric help immediately. You’ve got a real problem.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:24 pmBeltway Democrats are seriously flawed, but the election is still critically important
Now that the torture and detention bill will become law, it is necessary to focus on the political implications of what happened yesterday and, more broadly, what has been done to our country by the Bush administration and the blindly loyal Congress for the last five years. It goes without saying that the conduct of Democrats generally (meaning their collective behavior) was far, far short of anything noble, courageous or principled. And one could, if one were so inclined, spend every day from now until November 7 criticizing the strategic mistakes and lack of principle of Beltway Democrats and still not exhaust the list.
But that’s all besides the point at the moment, because — right now — everyone has to answer for themselves these questions:
September 29th, 2006 at 7:26 pm…
But a desire to see the Democrats take over Congress — even a strong desire for that outcome and willingness to work for it — does not have to be, and at least for me is not, driven by a belief that Washington Democrats are commendable or praiseworthy and deserve to be put into power. Instead, a Democratic victory is an instrument — an indispensable weapon — in battling the growing excesses and profound abuses and indescribably destructive behavior of the Bush administration and their increasingly authoritarian followers. A Democratic victory does not have to be seen as being anything more than that in order to realize how critically important it is.
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http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/ 2006/ 09/ beltway-democrats-are-seriously-flawed.html
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Bludog49
I ask you “Why would Democrats vote for a bill to let Bush off the hook for war crimes?”
And don’t forget most Democrats voted for the Iraq war. I think it was only Barbara Lee in the House who voted against it as I recall.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:28 pmKaty
“But that’s all besides the point at the moment…”
I think not. And that is a very poor attempt to shove an Elephant under a Donkey of a rug, if you ask me.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:30 pmand tureen, if you had been paying attention to this yesterday, you would have noticed the toll free numbers for the capital switchboard that i posted on most of the threads…
866.808.0065 .or. 866.340.9281
September 29th, 2006 at 7:35 pm…
Here’s a You Tube Video about Diebold machines it’s from Princeton University. Please watch.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:36 pmBruce Gorton
You are prone to somewhat bombastic rhetoric - we Americans are not children even though we act like ones - and let me digress to Katy’s comment - you are located abroad - by your name you are from the British Isles - so let me warn you, I am of Irish descent on both sides whose family suffered hard under “enlightened” British rule and left a beautiful Ireland for NYC and Toronto. So, I have no truck with “enlightened” western culture.
I have this to say about voting Independent. If I saw an Independent who had anything to say I would vote for him. I voted for Ralph Nader. But Ralph petered out to nothing. And no one seems to know why.
If you are abroad, perhaps you need to cease talking “down” to the “colonists” a bit more.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:37 pmKaty
September 29th, 2006 at 7:38 pmYou’re a smoothe one. So now you are saying that you had the numbers all along. How many have you called?
katy
These people voted to immunise George Bush from any charges on warcrimes, and for torture. I know there is an effort to get rid of Joe Lieberman, but can you honestly tell me you trust these guys? This is not about party, this is about people.
You Americans take your freedoms for granted, and your freedoms are being taken away from you. All too often, the Republicans are getting away with it and yes, they are the greater villains in this tale. They are evil, and not in an abstract form but rather the very mundane evil you see in the guy who steals from the poor to give to the rich.
And these twelve Democrats, by voting thus, have shown that they support this evil. Don’t you see what is wrong with supporting them further?
I say vote. If you don’t believe in either party vote for neither party just vote for someone you believe in. The only reason why you don’t vote this way is because you are afraid of “wasting” your vote and what happens? Nothing changes. Instead of having a multitude of parties to corrupt, your mega-corporations just have the Democrats and the Republicans.
If you don’t vote then you are wasting your vote. You are silencing your own voice which should be heard. If you vote for a party you don’t believe you are lying to yourself. If you believe in the Democrats then vote for the Democrats. If you agree with them, vote Republican, but don’t vote for the lesser of two evils, vote for the greater good. Forget about what party your candidate puts before his name and think about what policy your candidate is putting forward and whether you believe that candidate will put that policy into action.
And If enough Americans do this, if enough of them have the balls to actually risk voting for a independent candidate, guess what? You will find America suddenly without its two great parties, and with a government of your choosing.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:38 pmI think not. And that is a very poor attempt to shove an Elephant under a Donkey of a rug, if you ask me.
Comment by SonsofTureen — September 29, 2006 @ 7:30 pm
read the whole story… spend some time reading greenwald’s views on this… it should keep you busy a good while…
September 29th, 2006 at 7:39 pmBruce Gorton
As much as I like your writing.. I reluctantly say you make no sense when you propose “I say vote….just vote for someone you belive in.”
What does that mean? A write in vote? I think you are waxing philosophic at a time when practicality is required.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:41 pmKaty
September 29th, 2006 at 7:42 pmI don’t need to read Greenwald’s views - read Chomsky’s views.
Heres the damn link. to the Diebold information.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:42 pmbruce, i’m well aware of what this vote means and the damage done…
but YOU are giving out bad advice.
the only thing that will save this country AT THIS TIME, is
OVERWHELMING DEMOCRATIC VOTER TURNOUT.
IT CAN’T EVEN BE CLOSE. IF IT’S NOT CLOSE, THEY CAN’T STEAL IT.
FOR OVERSIGHT. FOR CHECKS & BALANCES. FOR THE CONSTITUTION.
OVERWHELMING DEMOCRATIC VOTER TURNOUT.
now, bruce, do us all a big favor, and quit giving out your BAD ADVICE…
September 29th, 2006 at 7:47 pmthere will be plenty of time to build up an independent, 3rd,4th party…
NOW IS NOT THE TIME.
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OT:
September 29th, 2006 at 7:48 pmCard Wanted To Fire Rumsfeld
Hestert doesn’t need to look to far from his desk to begin to find the ten top most wanted. Alive is better.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:53 pm…I voted for Ralph Nader…
Comment by SonsofTureen — September 29, 2006 @ 7:37 pm
another one to thank for the fine mess we are in now…
you have no right to come on here and blame anyone for anything…
you threw your vote to bushco then, and bruce wants us to do it again…
you won’t even expose yourself to someone other than chomsky?
September 29th, 2006 at 7:53 pmyour time here is up as far as i’m concerned…
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This pigface let a known sexual predator remain in the Congress as the Chairman of the Committee against Exploited and Missing Children. WTF?
September 29th, 2006 at 7:54 pmkaty,
Bruce is truly good hearted.
We are all totally frustrated right now because when it looked like a runaway, the Dem’s have still managed to F*** it up.
I blame Dean. Leadership is what it’s about, and he’s just not doing it.
Bruce is a good guy. I appreciate his posts, as do many of you.
It’s the Republican trick to turn us against ourselves that has won too many elections.
I don’t know.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:54 pmIt’s Friday. I just want us all to get along…
Katy
My grandmother was loyal to the Democratic machine in Brooklyn NY 70+ years ago when in exchange for working at a voting booth, she could get her son (my father) into a hospital to have his appendix removed. But those Democrats are gone. They were crooks as were all politicians, but theyt were crooks on a local scale. Today we have politicians engaging in corruption on a scale unimaginable - billions, trillions of dollars, and the Democrats are not immune. However — and let me say this as clearly as I can as an old-time Democrat — when a politician sells out his or her constituency at the level that was done yesterday and today…there is nothing that can excuse that. This is worse than when the Democrats voted for the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, that lying crock that Johnson concocted to get his way to bomb North Vietnam.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:54 pmHastert wants to take the 130 fattiest foods in the world and release them into his mouth.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:54 pmAnd Hastert covers up for pedophiles in his caucus.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:56 pm130 of the most treacherous people? How many Republicans in Congress?
September 29th, 2006 at 7:56 pmbruthful
September 29th, 2006 at 7:56 pmYou sound like one of those idiot young people who knows nothing about the world and thinks you know everything - sit back, shut up, listen, and maybe you’ll learn something
Bruce is truly good hearted.
Comment by trueblue — September 29, 2006 @ 7:54 pm
i have no doubt… but his voting advice is BAD ADVICE.
and he knows it… and yet he insists… and so will i.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:59 pm…
Sons: ““Why would Democrats vote for a bill to let Bush off the hook for war crimes?—
I can only answer that electoral pragmatism probably swayed these 12. I’m not in any way condoning it, but the Dems who voted this way probably were advised that if they didn’t, they’re opponents this year would take advantage of the vote in November.
But the idea that there are no differences between Repubs and Dems is simple-minded and naive. Repubs have controlled the House for 12 years. They have changed many of the House rules. They have prevented any dems from doing anything. For the first time in history, Republicans have refused to allow any member of the minority to issue a subpoena. No matter how frustrated you are with Democrats, you must give them back control of congress or nothing at all will change.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:59 pmMarie
September 29th, 2006 at 8:00 pmYou need to include the treacherous 12 - the Democratic Senators who voted with Bush today.
Bluedog49
September 29th, 2006 at 8:02 pmIt’s not simpleminded. But it is simple. And the honorable thing for all of those Democrats to do would have been to vote against the bill regardless of whether the polls said they might lose. At some point, you have to have a conscience and you have to vote that conscience. NOW was the time for a conscience, and these 12 had none.
Everyone here that disagrees with the President are now classified as Enemy Combatants. Please wait in your homes until Homeland Gestapo agents arrive. Do not contact a lawyer. Do not contact your family. Do not contact a lawyer.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:03 pmSo Dennis is this the same people that George doesn’t care about? You know Osama? Osama is free and you work to remove the freedom of Americans so that Osama can remain free?
How so does this ironic mentality work?
September 29th, 2006 at 8:05 pmdenny the Hut is a national disgrace - who gives a “F” what he says.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:05 pm.
Everyone here that disagrees with the President are now classified as Enemy Combatants. Please wait in your homes until Homeland Gestapo agents arrive. Do not contact a lawyer. Do not contact your family. Do not contact a lawyer.
Comment by SmackTalk
A little over the top there smack.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:08 pm“Everyone here that disagrees with the President are now classified as Enemy Combatants. Please wait in your homes until Homeland Gestapo agents arrive. Do not contact a lawyer. Do not contact your family. Do not contact a lawyer”
Right on SmackTalk
ANd may I add — if you refuse to answer questions without a lawyer you will be elevated to a red-alert suspicion level and immediately removed to Guantanamo where there is no Habeas Corpus and you will NEVER get out
September 29th, 2006 at 8:08 pmThe GOP is getting more and more desperate as the election approaches. I’m waiting for an ad with Osama bin Laden “pledging” his support for Dems. That would be quintessential GOP.
http://www.polibuzz.blogspot.com
September 29th, 2006 at 8:09 pmFOLEY RESIGNS - NEW POLLS
Political Buzz
http://www.polibuzz.blogspot.com
Everyone here that disagrees with the President are now classified as Enemy Combatants. Please wait in your homes until Homeland Gestapo agents arrive. Do not contact a lawyer. Do not contact your family. Do not contact a lawyer.
Comment by SmackTalk — September 29, 2006 @ 8:03 pm
could very well be… randi rhodes was advising listeners to let their friends and families know if they make actual plans to go away…
September 29th, 2006 at 8:11 pmnow that’s GOOD ADVICE. :-)
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Guys,
Let’s all take a big breath here.
I haven’t seen such venom on TP in quite a while.
Mr. Gorton is trying to help.
Let’s not maul the poor man.
Right now, a 3rd party vote is a bad idea, but it IS a good idea for the future.
I had the same go-round with miniblue’s Dad.
I’m all “Deval Patrick!”
He’s thinking, “Wow. Christy Mihos did a good job during the debate.”
I slammed the man. Said,”Great! Vote for him,… AFTER we get things back to normal!”
Bruce doesn’t know our system, therefore I think we’re being a bit mean to be so harsh.
I have shown that I agree with the “Dem first, Independent Later” arguement.
But we can all be nicer.
Sorry. I feel like the “Romper Room” Lady! (And that’s not good for a 40 year old woman on a Friday night…!)
September 29th, 2006 at 8:11 pmANd may I add — if you refuse to answer questions without a lawyer you will be elevated to a red-alert suspicion level and immediately removed to Guantanamo where there is no Habeas Corpus and you will NEVER get out
Comment by SonsofTureen
Where did you read this if I may ask?
September 29th, 2006 at 8:12 pmAnd as you struggle to survive the waterboarding, and you again see your tormentors face, grinning, and you tell him or her, for the thousandth time that you are a loyal patriotic American who happened to donate to the Democratic party, they again lower the waterboard as they let you know that “12 DEMOCRATIC SENATORS VOTED THAT WATERBOARDING IS NOT TORTURE IF BUSH SAYS IT ISN’T”
And you lower your head and pray to the gods for mercy… but all mercy is gone
September 29th, 2006 at 8:12 pmDick
Read it and weep http://www.democracynow.org/ article.pl?sid=06/ 09/ 29/ 150254
“On Capitol Hill, the Senate has agreed to give President Bush extraordinary power to detain and try prisoners in the so-called war on terror. The editors of the New York Times described the law as tyrannical. They said its passage marks a low point in American democracy and that it is our generation’s version of the Alien and Sedition Acts. The legislation strips detainees of the right to file habeas corpus petitions to challenge their own detention or treatment. It gives the president the power to indefinitely detain anyone it deems to have provided material support to anti-U.S. hostilities. Secret and coerced evidence could be used to try detainees held in U.S. military prisons. The bill also immunizes U.S. officials from prosecution for torturing detainees who the military and the CIA captured before the end of last year.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:15 pmThe Senate passed the measure sixty five to thirty four. Twelve Democrats joined the Republican majority. The House passed virtually the same legislation on Wednesday. Legal groups, including the Center for Constitutional Rights, are already preparing to challenge the constitutionality of the law in court.
And you lower your head and pray to the gods for mercy… but all mercy is gone
Comment by SonsofTureen
dayum chill out, I believe in God, mercy is in your hands, know it find it, share it, enlighten others with your discovery, spread mercy, be mercy, be yourself, be kind and be vigilante.
PI COT ORION is with you.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:20 pmOn Capitol Hill, the Senate has agreed to give President Bush extraordinary power to detain and try prisoners in the so-called war on terror.
Yes this pertains to the military law and not so much domestic law, do we need to act? Yes, but it’s not too late. I agree with you on your posts, level heads are needed. Find your equilibrium then forge ahead. =)
September 29th, 2006 at 8:23 pmConcerned about a repeat of the Nader vote
Yes you should be.. although Nader came to nothing
But i voted for him and i’m proud to say i did
And no, Nader didn’t cause Gore to lose, Gore caused Gore to lose and the fact that Gore never fought like hell for his election like Obrador is fighting now in Mexico to me means Gore deserves exactly what he got
But that’s what happens when rich boys run for President. It’s no skin off their backs when they lose, so they roll up their poncho and go home to Mount Vernon or some other mansion and stew for a few years until their handlers see a moment when they could emerge again with the right amount of money…
well ya know as great as Gore is on the environment… screw him..cause he never stood up for himself. nor did Kerry… they both rolled over and gave up witihout a fight when the elections were stolen.. and who the hell wants losers like them… i don’t care if my guy loses, but i want my guy/gal to fight like hell before the give up
That’s the problem with the Dems…
no grit…too much money.. but not enough money…not the Bush money, gotten from Aushwitz slave labor
but hell, Kerry had Heinz money, but still he wouldn’t fight the fight, he just gave up…
September 29th, 2006 at 8:23 pmjeeeeeeez… i have always qualified my insistance with “AT THIS TIME”
i have replied to bruce’s pandering before and he keeps on with the same notion… i have no patience with that kind of thinking…
there is no way an independent vote will help this country AT THIS TIME.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:25 pm…
“there is no way an independent vote will help this country AT THIS TIME.
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My dear, you seem to know little or nothing about history and clearly think far too much of your own thoughts. Better to temper your opinions with some doubt and historical review before you pronounce such edicts. You are sounding more and more like a dictator rather than a negotiator, or ruminator, or whatever the hell young people in the political parties like to view themselves as these days.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:30 pmHastert thinks Democrats will coddle terrorists which is clearly not true. But Hastert knew about Foley’s …problem… with young pages for A YEAR and coddled him. What about the danger to the young pages, Denny?
Apparently it doesn’t matter what destruction the GOP party is doing, they need to be coddled. Mess up Katrina with an incompetent from the Commissioner for the International Arabian Horse Association, mess up the Iraq war with an incompetent from the Ford White House, mess up the world with an incompetent coke-sniffing business-failing farting frat boy, the poor guys! They need to be coddled.
And Hastert, please don’t take offense, but you need a little less coddling and a little more exercise yourself.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:44 pmFirst of all, let’s remember the words of Will Rogers: “I don’t belong to any organized political party–I’m a Democrat.” Most of the Congessional Democrats’ problems have been their inability to present a cohesive front: some stand up, and are betrayed by the others, and nobody gets beat up in the cloakroom or has their committee appointments taken away from them.
But there is a way in which this is an advantage: the Democrats can be taken over by the foul-mothed, crazy leftists.
Our ABSOLUTE first priority is to remove the