I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

You couldn’t detect the truth if it introduced itself as such.

You offered not one fact, just juvenile ad hominen attacks. Yawn…

Gore didn’t win any recount whatsoever. It was his cronies in FL that wanted to count ballots where more than one candidate was chosen as votes for Gore. It was Gore’s cronies that wanted to ignore thousands of military absentee ballots, and the USSC voted to create a single standard by which those votes could be counted not the “eh whatever looks like a possible vote for Gore IS a vote for Gore”.

Gore Lost Bush won, get over it

You have to prove that (Nader voters) would have… voted for Gore…without that proof, you are just speculating.

You don’t have to prove. That’s absurd.

This is a question of likely effects – positive and negative.

That Nader’s candidacy plausibly contributed to Bush’s victory is beyond question.

And for that, he deserves some degree of condemnation.

he hung up on her…

that was paraphrased, of course – except her last line…
but it’s still true – we can’t afford that now…

I suppose I could blame everyone else in teh world for why I haven’t gotten certain things in my life, or I could take some level of personal accountability and say that perhaps I didn’t work hard enough.

Do you really think blaming Nader is valid? I don’t. But, then again, I don’t let my cats roam free in my neighborhood, I don’t cut people off in traffic and I chose not to eat animals because I wouldn’t want anyone to have me as dinner. Yes, that clearly makes me a wolf.

Stop blaming Nader for what happened to Gore. It really had little if anything to do with Nader, and everything to do with Gore not campaigning as effectively as he should have (he shunned Clinton who was the darling of the Democrats despite the Impeachment nonsense, making him look soft) – and Bush’s friends stealing him the election.

Nader had every right to run. Denying him that is unconstitutional.

If you can get Al Gore to run in 2008, I’d happily vote for him – even if he had to run as a Republican. I really couldn’t care less about the title – more about those who do their jobs with honor and integrity. It’s why I’m an Independent, and will be until someone corrupts that system. And I’m pretty sure someone will. With more people than the planet can comfortably support, human toxicity and proverbial cannibalism are simply a given. Like global Easter Island Syndrome. The few of us who can control ourselves will just watch the system swing between the extremes.

In 1994, it was the Dems who were corrupt. In 2006, it’s the Republicans. I just don’t see the difference in the general scheme of things. Especially when Democrats voted for and helped pass Bush’s anti-humanity bill this week.

Well any other kind of relationship they could have is NOT officially sanctioned by the GOP(greedy old preverts), so they have to maintain appearances. However this is the same time frame as Jeff Gannon, so who knows what all they did behind the scenes, Woodards book is kind of silent on this issue.

The problem was actually Florida. Nader didn’t impact the other states results enough to have over-turned those. It was limited to Florida. And no matter what had happened (because Gore actually did win there), the neocons would have done what they did. We were hijacked. And, like Sharon said so well, I must vote my conscious hoping others will as well. It’s only if people vote DEM out of fear that it won’t work.

I have met Gore in person and he would of been a good president, sadly he did not fight long enough or hard enough…Now it is all water over the levy..

For us to continue to vote in soft Dem’s or Rep.lite as I call them only buy’s into more rubber stamping and look what that has gotten us….The worst administration in my life time……Let all the dem’s that are spinless and not holding to our values as a country and upholding our constitution for the people take a hike with these war mongers. Not my vote. No more picking the lesser of two evils….Bull shit I say. They got 45 years of my work and dedication, now for 5 year’s they haven’t even responded to me or our countries needs. Only a handfull are worthy of my time and contribution’s. As you can see I am adament about this, I have a right to be…Do as you choose and I will also…..Let every vote be counted and verafied from the left, right and center……I’m thinking it is time to realy clean house and boot out every one who has not been doing their job and has only been self serving…..Blessings

i know what you mean, sharon… i had to get outside and do some digging and raking to burn off some steam…

but, i think now there was little we could do about that…
the torture bill was sprung on us all… it was pushed, rushed through for stricktly political purposes… it’s all about the race…
no regard to ramifications… no regard for the future…

if there is no gain in the house this november then we will all need to be afraid of what is to come… that is where all oversight – and subpoena power – starts from… it’s the only way to start the healing…
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Still warn out with all the crap that went through the house and senate this last week.. No matter what we did with calls and email’s as usual. The do nothing congress has turned out to be the do nothing good congress..Sad day’s to remember and worst yet to come, I am afraid…

Rest up Katy, the full moon is on Friday…..Ya all know what that does to all the freak’s, keep in mind how this bunch loves to do crap all week and then the grand fanallies on Friday’s…I’m speakin of the Republicans of course….LOL

Hay, Zooey, cool weather on the way, cloudy and cool here this morning. Rain this evening. Ofcourse you already knew that…..I’m off and otta here untill later, much transplanting and yard work to do…Already ran the Bear and fed and hugged the tree’s…Hugged a Muggo pine for you today and some 15ft. tall Abrovites……Hope they will do……Blessings All….Don’t play nicely, it makes everything mundane….Go kicking and screaming into home plate.