What we need to know is what did Hastert and Boehnert know and when did they know it? How much were they told about what Foley was doing? Were they really given just the very innocent-sounding messages (I’d like a picture of you), or were they shown the more salacious ones? This is what we need to stay on top of. Don’t let Hastert and Boehnert get away with not doing enough when they had the chance. If they were told or shown that could not be easily dismissed as “innocent”, then they should also resign from our Congress.
This is one example of the instatnt messenger conversations:
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Maf54: I miss you lots since san diego.
Teen: ya I cant wait til dc
Maf54: :)
Teen: did you pick a night for dinner
Maf54: not yet…but likely Friday
Teen: ok…ill plan for Friday then
Maf54: that will be fun
The messages also show the teen is, at times, uncomfortable with Foley’s aggressive approach.
Maf54: I want to see you
Teen: Like I said not til feb…then we will go to dinner
Maf54: and then what happens
Teen: we eat…we drink…who knows…hang out…late into the night
Maf54: and
Teen: I dunno
Maf54: dunno what
Teen: hmmm I have the feeling that you are fishing here…im not sure what I would be comfortable with…well see
——-
I think no matter what, this is inappropriate with an age difference like 54/16. Especially if you are a member of Congress.
How many more of these disgusting perverted queers are hiding behind the cloak(closet) of the GOP or the Church or even a beard? Any hint, rumor or accusation of being a disgusting, perverted queer needs to be dealt swiftly and harshly. These queers know that the lifestyle they have chosen is perverted and they use otherwise mainstream institutions to hide behind. Did Foley choose this perverted lifestyle after pretending to be a Republican? I don’t think so. Should he have been dealt with years ago, of course. Now this disgusting perverted queer is going to blame booze? Can you get treatment for choosing a disgusting perverted lifestyle? Is it any wonder that the Boy Scouts don’t want these perverts in the organization?
Foley is a pervert. There is no other explanation. Crimes will have to be proven, but immoral behavior and violations of ethics are evident, even at this point.
The complicit silence by House leadership is also evident. The party that has decreed itself the party of moral authority, looks the other way
when sexual predators of young people are discovered among them.
Don’t take your eye off the ball. The issue is Wooward’s account of Condi fluffing off the warning of imminate attack on July 10, 2001 by CIA George Tenet and Richard Clarke.
This pedafile story will take care of itself. The right is hiding the real story with this aside story and nobody notices. Fooled again? Seems so.
The headline should be about condi’s complacency.
You know, this is a much larger problem than any of us would think.
There is a journalist in Mexico who has exposed a governor (sorry, I can’t remember the state or names, but if you are interested I can dig it up with links) of a state and also his business dealings with the “King of Denim” (so called because of the fortune he has made running the blue jeans maquiladoras), anyway, exposing their child kidnapping/pornography/prostitution ring. Even though her evidence was excellent (taped phone conversations), the governor had her thrown in jail. Luckily, the courts didn’t let it stand, and her story is resulting in prosecution for these bastards. I imagine that there will be connections to the church and also to high figures in our own government.
I think the same motivations that make these people want to take advantage of children are also what make them want to bully the population with their political positions..
Yes Foley met some of the Pages, even took one out to dinner and another out to lunch in his BMW car, so he most likely had sex too?!
Comment by Jay Randal
Thanks, Jay. All the others on this site make it sound like “cruising” is a bad thing.
Some of the right wing blogs seem to stipulate that there was no “Physical contact” between Foley and the pages, but to me, this is naive and unrealistic. I wouldn’t convict Foley without evidence (hoisted on his own petard), but I wouldn’t automatically rule out such contacts.
Paradoxically, actual physical sex between Foley and a a sixteen year old is probably legal in many, if not most states – it’s the cyber laws that these gung ho right wingers pushed through, as an exercise in flattering their base, that will hurt them.
ABC, less than a month ago drew the wrath of the left-wing by airing a piece of partisan fiction packaged and sold as the true story of 9/11.
Is the network now trying to get back into our good graces by getting the scoop on this story? I wonder, how is it ABC got the inside scoop on this, when 3 weeks ago it was operating as a NeoCon propaganda machine?
Why do Congressmen have to have Pages anyway? Are Congressmen royalty or do they just think that they’re royalty? Pages are obviously a useless leftover from medieval power structures and should be phased out of our national government as soon as possible.
Cheers.
Let’s get all the facts before we start prosecuting anyone.
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:17 pmThis is too freaky. I think that I am about to throw up.
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:19 pmDemocrats: partying with adults of the opposite sex (for the most part)
Republicans: trying to party with underage members of the SAME sex (for the most part)
There’s a difference worth noting.
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:22 pmYeesh, creepy man, really creepy.
I can’t believe the leadership knew about this but covered it up to protect their majorities.
Actually yes, I can believe it.
http://www.theworstpresidentever.org
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:23 pmlet the courts worry about the “prosecution”… i think there are plenty of facts so far to proceed with the condemnation…
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:25 pmfor me, anyway…
What we need to know is what did Hastert and Boehnert know and when did they know it? How much were they told about what Foley was doing? Were they really given just the very innocent-sounding messages (I’d like a picture of you), or were they shown the more salacious ones? This is what we need to stay on top of. Don’t let Hastert and Boehnert get away with not doing enough when they had the chance. If they were told or shown that could not be easily dismissed as “innocent”, then they should also resign from our Congress.
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:28 pm“Let’s get all the facts before we start prosecuting anyone.”- Klaus
Unless you are suspected of being a terrorist. Then you may be legally tortured.
Unless you are a country that we say has WMD’s with no proof. Then you may be bombed into oblivion.
Oh, but let’s protect our fellow perverts.
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:28 pmThis is one example of the instatnt messenger conversations:
——-
Maf54: I miss you lots since san diego.
Teen: ya I cant wait til dc
Maf54: :)
Teen: did you pick a night for dinner
Maf54: not yet…but likely Friday
Teen: ok…ill plan for Friday then
Maf54: that will be fun
The messages also show the teen is, at times, uncomfortable with Foley’s aggressive approach.
Maf54: I want to see you
Teen: Like I said not til feb…then we will go to dinner
Maf54: and then what happens
Teen: we eat…we drink…who knows…hang out…late into the night
Maf54: and
Teen: I dunno
Maf54: dunno what
Teen: hmmm I have the feeling that you are fishing here…im not sure what I would be comfortable with…well see
——-
I think no matter what, this is inappropriate with an age difference like 54/16. Especially if you are a member of Congress.
http://www.getsomejosh.com – check me out
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:31 pmHow many more of these disgusting perverted queers are hiding behind the cloak(closet) of the GOP or the Church or even a beard? Any hint, rumor or accusation of being a disgusting, perverted queer needs to be dealt swiftly and harshly. These queers know that the lifestyle they have chosen is perverted and they use otherwise mainstream institutions to hide behind. Did Foley choose this perverted lifestyle after pretending to be a Republican? I don’t think so. Should he have been dealt with years ago, of course. Now this disgusting perverted queer is going to blame booze? Can you get treatment for choosing a disgusting perverted lifestyle? Is it any wonder that the Boy Scouts don’t want these perverts in the organization?
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:31 pmEven asking for a picture is a pretty bold move, doncha think?
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:32 pmFoley should have been gone a long time ago.
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:34 pmAnyone who saw the original emails should resign immediately.
Klaus in 2006: “Let’s get all the facts before we start prosecuting anyone.”
Klaus in 1998: “He’s a rapist and a liar. Let’s impeach him!”
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:36 pmSo how does dependence on booze make you write dirty messages to boys? Wierd.
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:37 pmOk stick a fork in Foley, he’s done.
Now how about a thread on Condi’s lack of ability to remember anything?
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:37 pmFoley is a pervert. There is no other explanation. Crimes will have to be proven, but immoral behavior and violations of ethics are evident, even at this point.
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:38 pmThe complicit silence by House leadership is also evident. The party that has decreed itself the party of moral authority, looks the other way
when sexual predators of young people are discovered among them.
Don’t take your eye off the ball. The issue is Wooward’s account of Condi fluffing off the warning of imminate attack on July 10, 2001 by CIA George Tenet and Richard Clarke.
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:38 pmThis pedafile story will take care of itself. The right is hiding the real story with this aside story and nobody notices. Fooled again? Seems so.
The headline should be about condi’s complacency.
Bluedog49 in 1998: “Sarcasm, what’s that?”
Bluedog49 in 2006: “Sarcasm, what’s that?”
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:42 pmFoley says he has checked into a rehabilitation facility to deal with alcohol and behavioral issues.
Behavioral issues like behaving like a Republican?
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:44 pm#8…Vile. That poor kid. Foley is repugnant. And now is hiding behind alcholism….A pervert and a coward. Some combination.
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:46 pmKlaus, sorry, my apologies. I’ve already heard people make your post seriously today, so I didn’t recognize the sarcasm.
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:49 pmYes Foley met some of the Pages, even took one out to dinner and another out to lunch in his BMW car, so he most likely had sex too?!
October 2nd, 2006 at 2:00 pmYou know, this is a much larger problem than any of us would think.
October 2nd, 2006 at 2:04 pmThere is a journalist in Mexico who has exposed a governor (sorry, I can’t remember the state or names, but if you are interested I can dig it up with links) of a state and also his business dealings with the “King of Denim” (so called because of the fortune he has made running the blue jeans maquiladoras), anyway, exposing their child kidnapping/pornography/prostitution ring. Even though her evidence was excellent (taped phone conversations), the governor had her thrown in jail. Luckily, the courts didn’t let it stand, and her story is resulting in prosecution for these bastards. I imagine that there will be connections to the church and also to high figures in our own government.
I think the same motivations that make these people want to take advantage of children are also what make them want to bully the population with their political positions..
Yes Foley met some of the Pages, even took one out to dinner and another out to lunch in his BMW car, so he most likely had sex too?!
Comment by Jay Randal
Thanks, Jay. All the others on this site make it sound like “cruising” is a bad thing.
October 2nd, 2006 at 2:10 pmCovering up child abuse should be prosecuted also, it’s as bad the abuse.
October 2nd, 2006 at 2:13 pm#6 Wayne,
A rare, not-Met-related moment of agreement between us.
October 2nd, 2006 at 2:19 pmSome of the right wing blogs seem to stipulate that there was no “Physical contact” between Foley and the pages, but to me, this is naive and unrealistic. I wouldn’t convict Foley without evidence (hoisted on his own petard), but I wouldn’t automatically rule out such contacts.
October 2nd, 2006 at 2:40 pmHow long is yer, um, ……arm? Ewwwwww such a long arm.
October 2nd, 2006 at 2:46 pmParadoxically, actual physical sex between Foley and a a sixteen year old is probably legal in many, if not most states – it’s the cyber laws that these gung ho right wingers pushed through, as an exercise in flattering their base, that will hurt them.
October 2nd, 2006 at 2:55 pmABC, less than a month ago drew the wrath of the left-wing by airing a piece of partisan fiction packaged and sold as the true story of 9/11.
Is the network now trying to get back into our good graces by getting the scoop on this story? I wonder, how is it ABC got the inside scoop on this, when 3 weeks ago it was operating as a NeoCon propaganda machine?
October 2nd, 2006 at 3:22 pmThe right wingers get so caught up in thier values-oriented bullshit agenda, they end up passing laws that are more applicable to themselves.
Speaking of repressed sexuality, why would good girl Christian, Katherine Harris get her titties surgically altered to be larger?
October 2nd, 2006 at 4:23 pmWhy do Congressmen have to have Pages anyway? Are Congressmen royalty or do they just think that they’re royalty? Pages are obviously a useless leftover from medieval power structures and should be phased out of our national government as soon as possible.
October 2nd, 2006 at 7:22 pmCheers.