ABC News: Pages ‘Sending All Sorts of Messages About Possible Other Members’
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By on Oct 2nd, 2006 at 8:31 pm
ABC News: Pages ‘Sending All Sorts of Messages About Possible Other Members’
Tonight on ABC, investigative journalist Brian Ross suggested there may be other members of Congress who engaged in inappropriate behavior towards congressional pages:
BRIAN ROSS: So far, Foley is the only member whose overt sexual approaches have been documented. Charlie?
CHARLES GIBSON: The only one to be documented, but are there other shoes to drop?
ROSS: We’re hearing quite a bit from former pages. They’re sending us all sorts of messages about possible other members.
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More and more the culture of corruption of the Repub-lie-can is exposed. How will the Kool-Aid drinkers spin THIS one??
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:34 pmThe flood is coming!
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:38 pmLet’s hope no dems are part of this.
I could see this whole thing flame out with just one dem involved.
No Way.
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:42 pmAwe man, don’t bust the whole racket before I can get me some 16 year old pagey girl.
JUST KIDDING
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:43 pmOh, here’s the opening for Karl to pull his October surprise. He’ll make sure the finger is pointed — with nebulous swift-boat class proof that’ll later be proven false (anybody remember Karl’s fine handywork on the Niger Uranium documents?) — at some Democrat Congress-critter.
And instead of remaining on the offensive, we’ll suddenly see Hillary et al dropping the ball, eating their own, and busy defending themselves as if they were the ones who had been busy with the measuring tape and the solicitation of minors online.
Cue the MSM pundits who can comfortably play it as a “they said they said, and isn’t it all really a shame…” piece and it’ll be November and over before we know it.
Please, please, please prove me wrong. I want to be wrong so badly.
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:43 pmHas the snowball begun to roll? — I hope it lands at the bottom of the hill having rolled up the Republiscum party along the way.
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:43 pm5. thing,
You planted the paranoid seed in my brain, now I wonder about the whole thing, thanks a lot.
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:46 pmBetcha they set up at least one Democrat for cover. Doesn’t matter if he’s later cleared, as long as the election is past.
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:47 pmHC, you are right. If there’s a Dem involved, the story will change 100%. We have to keep the focus on the child molesters in the GOP.
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:47 pmNo matter, left, right or center any one ingaged in this type of behavior and enabeling it need’s to be booted out…Period….. Blessings
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:49 pmI’m starting to get a ‘McMartin Preschool” feel about this latest development.
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:50 pmOT - sorry - but Frist has suggested that we turn over the government of Afghanistan to the Taliban because we cannot beat them militarily.
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:52 pmIs the circle completed now?
Note that this story and the tragedy in Lancaster, PA have taken all the news time on 24/7 channels. Rove must be quietly smiling in his office.
If Fatboy has to be sacrificed along with Foley, no big deal to Rove — they will simply keep going forward. stealing whatever elections they can on 11/7.
This country has lost it’s way. It will take a national realization of this on a grand scale to really turn things around. With the right leaders, it could happen. Gore / Hillary 2008
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:53 pmYup - this will be just like how they were able to nullify the Abramoff scandal - point the finger at the Dems, say they did it too, and the press will cease to look for the truth.
This one is dead, and it’s because we really can’t trust our own congresspeople.
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:53 pmHere is a link to what Foley had to say about Clinton after the Lewinski thing… Hilarious!
http://www.sptimes.com/ Worldandnation/ 91298/ Congress_sees_through.html
http://www.getsomejosh.com
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:54 pmThis reminds me of the Catholic Church. Culture of corruption is right. The congress members had power. They had authority. They had the protection to continue their crimes, harrassment and immoral behavior. I seriously doubt there is only one person involved. Birds of a feather. You wonder why they could be so stupid in the legislation they so willingly passed. They weren’t. They were there for things other than serving the nation. You wonder how they could lack all compassion. It’s all clear to me now.
October 2nd, 2006 at 8:57 pm#8 Yeah, they probably have a Dem beard.
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:08 pmDem or Repub, I want them out.
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:09 pmCan you imagine how much the GOP leadership is hoping and praying that at least one Democrat gets caught in the sweep? Then they can say it’s not a partisan issue, blame Clinton, say “9/11″ and keep saying they are the “moral” party.
Seriously, ANYONE who does this crap deserves to be thoroughly punished, no matter the politial alignment. But if a Dem is caught, it would be an individual crime. But since the Republicans have had such a lock on the House for so long, this case absolutely points to yet more evidence of systemic corruption in the whole party.
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:09 pmI’ve had a change of heart. Since I know these guys are gone I hope Bushco is actually stupid enough to keep these clowns in office.
I came home and looked at my children and I thought if that piece of shit Hastert even had the remotest idea this was going on and covered it up I would flip out.
No more fun and games. These scumbags need to go directly from their congressional offices to court to defend themselves.
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:15 pmGeeze-maneeze, you’d think someone was caught in bed with a dead woman or a live boy already … it’s close - it’s just hypocricy to the n-th degree. I mean why should men elected to protect us, let alone our most vunderable, our children, who have been caught violating that oath resign? Please …
its just some “overly friendly”, “naughty emails”.
Now where did I put that torch and pitchfork …?
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:18 pmNo Democrats will be caught. Democrats do not lust for children. Democrats do not have to deny their humanity, and their true sexuality to impress the Dobson types to ascend to power……
Just think. Since Jefferson got caught with a freezer full of cash, it makes the BILLIONS / TRILLIONS the Republican’s friends have stolen irrelevant?
Have you noticed Jefferson has not been charged? Entrapment? Maybe if they offered $100,000 cash to you, would you take it?
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:22 pmThis isn’t as big a crime as the the committed last week with the passage of bill S3931 when our Consitution and Bill of rights got raped in the ass!
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:22 pmDoes everyone know that Fox News had copies of the LA boy’s e-mails last year? I just read it on Fox News’ site and that is damning!
“Meanwhile, Florida newspapers — who were leaked copies of the e-mail with the Louisiana boy last year — defended their decision not to run stories. Both The St. Petersburg Times and The Miami Herald were given copies of the e-mail, as were other news organizations, including Fox News.”
“Our decision at the time was … that because the language was not sexually explicit and was subject to interpretation, from innocuous to ’sick,’ as the page characterized it, to be cautious,” said Tom Fiedler, executive editor of the Herald. “Given the potentially devastating impact that a false suggestion of pedophilia could have on anyone, not to mention a congressman known to be gay, and lacking any corroborating information, we chose not to do a story.”
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:23 pmI will finally believe in the Christians “god” if the “other ones’ mentioned her include Rick Santorum.
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:25 pmTHIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGGG TIME
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:29 pmhttp://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGGG TIME
http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:30 pmNo Remocrats are involved. Hastert’s behavior would be much different had they been. Trying, moreover, to manipulate a page’s memory to incriminate a Democrat and diffuse the blame would backfire. It’s a Republican morass and their exclusive.
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:32 pmDuh, Hastert is the next perv to go down. Pun intended.
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:40 pmJust look at that guy. Put him in a stained trenchcoat in a seedy adult bookstore, and he’d be right at home.
I bet Karl Rove is turning up ever stone to find Democrats up to no good, make this anti-incumbent.
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:41 pmif there are more, please let them be heteros with female pages.
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:42 pmOhhh Noooo, there will be Dems named in this too. You know the diddlers are everywhere. Time to switch the subject to Condi ignoring 9/11 warnings. Next Karl Rove will say he was approached by a Dem for s*x. I can’t imagine but ….. Are Limbaugh and Rove related??? Look at them.
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:44 pmIf there had been a Democrat up to no good he’d have been thrown under the bus today. Instead the other side has to dig back a quarter-century.
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:45 pmDrudge has the screaming banner that the Washington Times will call for Hastert to resign tomorrow in the morning edition.
Hastert has clearly lost favor among Republicans.
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:49 pmMany of these pages are in college. Many of these schools have honor codes. If any of these pages float red herrings, they better be prepared to flush a $150,000 eduction down the toilet, because their peers will demand their expulsion under their schools respective honor codes. Lying has consquences.
Foley’s emails were obviously luring and using his power position to force the boy’s hand. Did he promise to help him get into a good school? Did he hold something more than authority over the boy’s head? It is obvious from the letters that the boy was playing along, but was hesitant and not into it, but just did not know how to tell his new friend politely, “NO!”. Sadly, this looks just like the textbook methodology the perverts use to lure children. This is so much like the testimoney of teens before congress who have been lured by pedophiles. How did Hastert and cronies not put two and two together ?
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:50 pmAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone remind me why its not scary to have children. Please.
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:51 pmIf there is a Democrat or two involved it should make no difference to what I consider to be my, and I would hope our, objective here. While I am happy, or elated as the case may be, to see the Rethugs step on their collective crank it is merely a means to an end. I am appalled at the depths to which all politicians, from local school boards, city councils, county supervisors, and up the line to the present Shit House Administration have resorted to fill their own pockets. My solution is to prevent any, repeat any, incumbent from being reelected, regardless of party, to any political office, EVER. There should be a term limit of one term for every elected office in this country. I don’t care how much they steal without getting caught, but they will have to do it in a hurry and cover it up quickly–not an easy task in one term. Furthermore all ex-politicians should be prohibited for life from receiving any money, compensation, gift, freebee, donation, salary, commission, or any other form or function of monetary gain from any person or corporate entity that profited from any measure considered while they were in office. Whether the measure passed or not. All election campaigns shouldl be done with no money contributed by anyone except the Government at the appropriate level. TV and radio coverage, equally divided among all candidates,shouldl be provided by the licensed stations as a function of their license agreement. If you want my vote you come to me and convince me or make yourself available at a time and place convenient to me. No more “Swift Boat” lies and manipulations. The candidates should be precluded from any statement about their opponents. Let them tell us what THEY are going to do good rather than what the other guy will do bad. I will be the judge of the relative merits of the candidates and vote accordingly. The object is to prevent the crooks and liars, regardless of party affiliation, from buying, or in the case of bushco, stealing an election and robbing the Country blind. I would much rather have a naive, honest beginner politician considering what is in the best interest of his/her constituents than have a seasoned political crook stealing my money.
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:52 pmEditorial titled: ‘Resign, Mr. Speaker’: ‘House Speaker Dennis Hastert must do the only right thing, and resign his speakership at once… Mr. Hastert has forfeited the confidence of the public and his party, and he cannot preside over the necessary coming investigation, an investigation that must examine his own inept performance’… — Washington Times, October 3, 2006…
Agreed. Time to get out, Denny.
October 2nd, 2006 at 9:55 pmIf any of the kids affected by this , in any way, are reading these posts, please, find someone that you feel that you can trust, a parent, relative, teacher, counselor, just someone, and talk to them about this! As you now know, you are not alone in this, and it’s not your fault! Someone in a position of power and authority tokk advantage of that, you did nothing wrong. You have nothing to be ashamed of. Please, just talk to someone.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:11 pm#42*took, not tokk.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:12 pmi’m sure they will coming out of the walls on the hill like roaches.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:24 pmLibbies - please take note of what happens when you are a dimented pervert in the republican party - you get booted out of office. Too bad all the Dems to do this in the past are now your party leaders.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:28 pmdemented
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:29 pmIn the Republican party, corruption is the exception. In the Democrat party, it is the rule.
No doubt if a thorough investigation is done, some Dems will get caught.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:30 pmbonesTwo, please point out which Dem leaders are pedophiles.
And if you bring up adultery with ADULT women as somehow being morally equivalent, may I remind you that Giuliani and Gingrich are both among the frontrunners for the GOP 08′ presidential nomination.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:33 pmThey are spinning it just like always. It is Clinton’s fault, no, wait it was the Congressman back in the 80’s that had sex with a page. It was his fault. No, wait, from Dobson, it’s just society’s tolerance of deviant sexual behavior. Uh, maybe someone should just say, It’s Mark Foley’s fault?
Peace, and most of all Love,
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:34 pmPeeJ
So by that standard, the entire Republican Party is an exception from itself. Gotch ya’, buddy.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:34 pmEven if there is a Dem named, it is the cover-up by the Rapublican leader ship that is the real crime.
They didn’t even tell the Dem on the page committee.
A sick priest is a sick priest, but the Catholic Church covering it up is the sin.
It’s that simple.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:35 pmKlaus, please point out which Dem leaders are not pedophiles, and provide evidence.
Foley’s actions do not fit the definition of pedophilia. He is a homosexual, not a pedophile.
The legal age of consent in DC is 16 by the way.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:37 pmNovin, there’s no evidence there was a coverup.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:38 pmUh, they didn’t even tell the Democrat on the page committee? They didn’t even tell the Republican “mother” on the page committee. How sick is that? They didn’t even trust a woman not to follow party lines. Hell, Katherine Harris would have lied. She did before. Oh, that’s just rehashing old conspiracy theorys. Never mind. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Peace, and most of all Love!
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:38 pmPeeJ
#47
this is in fact, i believe, across all aisles. look into the ’secrets’ of skull and bones. pedaphilia is their initiation ritual to ensure that the handpicked, up and coming congressman will do what big daddy wants them to do. these pricks don’t get shut up money they get little boys. the rule for the nazi/zionists is to lie, steal, murder, treason, torture, lie some more, bully, corruption and mounds of it.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:38 pmBe careful, they didn’t say that anybody who might have done this is necessarily Republican. The lid is blowing off the bucket and it could be either party. My goodness..this is horrid and stunning news.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:38 pmProbably on both sides of the isle. Party problem for cover-ups, personal problems for the perps.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:38 pmPeej, what Foley did is Foley’s fault. What Clinton did is Clinton’s fault. Democrats have a record of excusing various immoral and illegal behavior, which is their fault.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:39 pmWell I can only tell you that first of all someone that hasnt been accused of sex with a minor, that’s Foley. He’s just a sicko on email and IM. I can tell you about a democratic congressman that had sex with a 17year old boy that was applauded for not resigning by the dem house. That’s your party homes. I’m not talking about making out with a fat intern on easter - or raping some other woman like Clinton did. And I’m certainly not talking about killing someone either. Clinton and Kennedy, gotta love em.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:40 pmbs, re: “look into the ’secrets’ of skull and bones. pedaphilia is their initiation ritual…”
John Kerry was in Skull and Bones. What are you accusing him of here?
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:41 pmOh boy, unsubstantiated conspiracy theories!
Bush raped a puppy! I seen it! You Republicans are all corrupt!
CAN’T DISPRoVE ME I REDZ IT ON THE INTRANETZ
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:42 pmBush was also in Skull and Bones, moron!
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:43 pm#60
the same thing. and don’t forget kerry is the cousin of bushwhack and also was seen shaking the hand of the grand mason. all of them pricks who have gone through skull and bones are liking little boys but just kept their tendacies in check. and don’t forget military institution either. especially when you get into the co’s(commisioned officers). do you know anything about kay griggs? she tells it all, after finding her dead husbands diary.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:47 pmOH you fools - don’t you see what this is?? The Repubs are going to use some 19 year old party loyalists to swift-boat a few dems to make it ‘all come out a wash’. You watch. You watch.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:49 pmSkippy is preemptively apologizing for Dem perverts. Typical lib.
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:51 pmKlaus was also in Skull and Bones
October 2nd, 2006 at 10:52 pmgrrrrr…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZSu1E3mk1w
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:00 pmThe Washington, D.C. office and the district offices of the Honorable Mark Foley will continue to serve the people of the Sixteenth Congressional District of Florida
http://www.house.gov/foley
he’s still “honorable”
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:02 pmI feel like I’m watching Caligula. This is the fall of the Roman Empire we’re watching.
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:07 pmUm, Thinkyourcommies is so smart.
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:12 pmTake one Gigantic Fan
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:18 pmTwelve tons of elephant shit.
Turn fan on High and begin shoveling…
I am sure that Karl Rove is cooking up a swiftboat attack on Democrats, but unless he can find one who likes young underage teenage boys it will not wash in the press! I am sure that a fewl Democrat Congressmen are having secret affairs with other adults, but NOT underage like GOP Foley!
I do believe that possibly a few more Republicans might be molesting underage male and female Pages, so expect them to get exposed soon!
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:23 pmConsidering that the Professional Christians, i.e., Fallwell and his ugly ilk, have not weighed in on the issue, I wonder where their allegiances will lie?
Will they protect the Word of God? Or will they protect their Republican friends?
Their brains may well short-circuit.
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:29 pmJay Randal - nice take. Dems are the only part on record to support dem officeholders keeping their posts when they….
1. Kill someone. Kennedy
2. Get a male page drunk and have sex with him, he was 17 - Studds
3. Run a male prostitution ring out of your basement while banging the ring leader. - Barney Frank
4. Have sex with a subordinate in the oval office (you would get fired from your job at McDs for this) - Clinton.
Now these are just facts, so I know they don’t matter to you - but they do to the people watching you ’smirk’ about a sick pervert who wrote emails and IMs to a page he had a woody over. THere is no evidence that he did anything nearly as bad as the 4 above, and they all got to keep their jobs.
So let’s hear something about adults, or how long ago it was, etc, becuase that’s what you are going to tell me - that the sex, murder, and lies above are not nearly as bad as this sicko chatting with a 17yr old online.
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:35 pmbonesTwo, why are you so divorced from reality?
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:39 pmbecuase it is fun.
Which part of my post was false?
Just funny reactions people have when it’s their party vs the other party. Repubs are the same, just happens to be on the other foot tonight.
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:41 pmWhere can I get these bumper stickers?
SUPPORT FAMILY VALUES
VOTE DEMOCRATIC
PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN
VOTE NOV. 7TH
PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:45 pmVOTE DEMOCRATIC
Bones > get current with the information coming out on Foley > he not only sent nasty emails to underage teenage boys, but also met them > took them out to dinner or lunch and most likely had sex with them too!
As for the Democrats you mention: Those events happened years ago!
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:50 pmbonestwo - you also need to look into Ms. Bush’s “murder” of her ex-boyfriend. If we are comparing murderers, that is. Also, if we are going to discuss adulterers, we can start with good ole newt and move on from there. On a final note, I do believe there was a republican caught up in that whole Studds incident too.
However, in the present, because this is all we can do anything about, there is only one party of sick, perverted individuals who prey on young boys, and that would be the republican party.
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:50 pmOkay, I disagree with whatever Bonestwo says, first off, lol.
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:53 pmand secondly,
I also think that its only a matter of hours till we here of some Democrat being involved in something similar. It may be a setup by the Repugs, or It may be true. If it’s true, then right on, they need to be exposed too.
But the important thing to remember is, that the biggest condemning factor in this page scandal, is that top Repugs tried to hide it. That would be harder for Rowe to maneuver.
It would be simple to set up nearly anyone, after all, any overtly friendly gesture from representative to page could be misconstrued as suspect behavior.
Thats the terrible thing, this may just be the tip of a huge witch hunt yet to come.
see jules - that’s the point - Republicans arent the only ONE party. Just look at the facts. Jeez, can’t you read? Happened years ago? Predicted that response? Adults? Right on….. Don’t be saddened to find out that there are a few dems in on this - and that they actually did the deeds…oops. I’ll check back here for my apologies.
October 2nd, 2006 at 11:58 pmYou see - you all should listen to Bones (one not Two, of course, wouldnt want you in another fit would we) - he knows what’s up. He’s already off the non sex scandal and on to some sort of cover up…where does that sound familiar?
It’s only a matter of time until Shumer is on Today shedding crocodile tears for an independent counsel to protect the integrity of our national security interests……damn - sorry -that was with that Plame / Wilson thing. My bad.
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:01 amYou see - you all should listen to Bones (one not Two, of course, wouldnt want you in another fit would we) - he knows what’s up. He’s already off the non sex scandal and on to some sort of cover up…where does that sound familiar?
It’s only a matter of time until Shumer is on Today shedding crocodile tears for an independent counsel to protect the integrity of our national security interests……damn - sorry -that was with that Plame / Wilson thing. My bad.
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:02 amLooks like the subject of possible Democrats getting caught up in this?
If that is the case, the same laws apply.
The SOBs should be booted out off office, and marched into a nice dark clammy jail cell with a 6 foot tall gang banger, who was molested by a sick puke like Foley, as a child.
This issue is NOT a political issue. It is a LAW and ORDER issue.
Anyone involved and any way, doing it, or covering it up need to go to jail. For life.
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:03 amI’m sure all the Republican-faithful will be listening to their hero, thrice-divorced impotent criminal drug addict Rush Limbaugh lecture them about “Family Values.”
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:06 amWhen this is added on to everything else, the disasterous wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the faltering economy, the crisis in the environment, the immigration conundrum, the trashing of the constitution, New Orleans, Abramoff, the endless lies, and now this. What’s next?
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:11 amSomeone touched Wayne when he was a kid.
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:15 amFolks, of course there will be some Democrats that are involved in similar scandals. Why do you guys keep foolishly thinking that Democrats are any better than Republicans? THEY ARE ALL CORRUPT!!! They are all elitists just looking out for themselves and their donors/cronies.
If you want real change start looking elsewhere. The 2 party system is a scam. Vote Independent, Green, Libertarian… etc. Stop being a dog chasing it’s own tail.
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:22 amI’m glad to see that there are so many open minded people reading this page. This is why I hate politics all of the tow the party line Democrats (and Republicans) who look at everything through the prism of politics. This is pathetic, people hoping there aren’t Republicans involved so they can stick it to them. This is what is wrong with this country - people like you who are so vindictive that all you care about is the advancement of your party and not this country. Get a brain and vote for the best man and not your party and maybe this country will change….
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:23 amThis will be bi-partisan.
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:24 amThe past several days has produced yet another bumper crop of Republican gaffes, goofs and guffaws. The new Woodward book, Mark Foley’s predilection for post-pubescent pages, the Congressional codification of torture and the chaos in Iraq helped bring out a bevy of new verbal offenses from many of the usual suspects of the right:
“GOP Quotes of the Week.”
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:25 amBy the way, did you guys all forget about Barney Frank with the male prostitute in his apartment??? Come on… give it up - Democrats aren’t any better than Republicans. They are both corrupt. What makes me sick is the holier than thou attitude that Dems have when talking about Republicans and vice versa…. get a life.
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:27 amThis situation must be a big problem for the Grand Oil Party. Look at all the minimum wage rethug trolls out here in cyberspace, all repeating the same BS over and over.
Amazing. They stay “on message” like grade-school children. “But Bobby gets to go!” “But Bobby gets to go!” “But Bobby gets to go!” “But Bobby gets to go!”
Think for yourselves and smell the coffee, trolls. Dems from 1969, 1983, or 1997 aren’t facing an election here. The news is that right now, this year, YOUR self-proclaimed family values folks swept a homosexual child trawler under the rug, hoping to keep the issue quiet until after the election. Nothing is more important than an election to the GOP.
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:34 amI see that many on the kooky right seem to have trouble understanding the difference between a 16 year old saying “sick, sick, sick” and a 27 year old page (in 1983) telling the media he was involved in a consensual relationship.
Only the perverts on the right think it’s A-OK for an old man to talk dirty to a 16 year old who in not interested in a consensual relationship.
How far back in time do you knuckleheads plan to go?
Your pathetic excuses (Barney Frank, Clinton etc) will not wash with any parent in America. If your best defense is, “Well, you guys did it too”, you’re toast. I’m afraid you’ll have to do better than that if you want to parade around America telling voters you’re the party of Family VAL-YOUS.
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:41 amBig Dave: When Barney Frank found out about his boyfriend being a prostitute, he kicked him out and had nothing to do with him again. Frank is and was at the time openly gay. And the scandel was embarrasing but nothing Frank did was against the law or unethical. And is it the same as being with a teenage boy? Come on! Any sicko who wants to f*** a teenager should be in jail.
Don’t pull out every sex scandal of the past and compare it to a guy that wants to get it on with children. ITS NOT THE SAME, AND YOU KNOW IT.
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:46 amRepublicants are having trouble accepting the fact that their party is falling to pieces before their very eyes. The party of family values is now the party of predators and pedophile enablers. All parents see this and will not forget it come November 7.
It’s pretty telling when you have The Washington Times calling for Hastert’s resignation, but the loons of the Republican party here want to talk about what happened back in 1983. Good luck with that argument! LOL!
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:54 amI love you guys… Nobody gives ar rats ass about the kid.
Also, nobody cares that someone was sitting on these conversations and didn’t go to the authorities, no they waited until election time was near to leak them to the media.. Again, to hell with the kids… we’re going to try and win a seat!
You guys are just as bad.
Nice guys.
Real nice.
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:59 am[…] Source: Think Progress Posted by Michael Kolanos Filed in The Illuminati […]
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:03 am“The flood is coming!
Let’s hope no dems are part of this.
I could see this whole thing flame out with just one dem involved.”
Are you kidding me?
Kids were prayed upon, and all you care about is that one of “your guys” being involved? OOooh hey this is only really good if we can screw the republicans… but damn if a democrat is involved, then it’s a non issue anymore.
Oh there was a kid involved? Oh ya he’s not important…
So what’s worse, praying on a kid, or jumping up and down for joy that you get to use him to take a shot at the opposition party?
You’re no better than Foley.
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:03 amThe ironic part of this for me is, considering that Republicans have spent the last three election cycles telling the American people how they should fear Homosexuals, and to outlaw gay marriage because of all of the ‘horrors’ that would follow after. One of their favorite scare tactics is ‘gays are pedophiles, they want your children, BEWARE!!!’ Of course they meant ‘Liberal’ Homosexuals, not the ‘Conservative’ ones, even though they never actually said so. But they sure as hell implied it.
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:07 amIdiots Anonymous:
Been listening to Limp-baugh lately?
You think this was leaked to win a seat?
You guys on the right are so demoralized it’s pathetic! Get a grip on yourself and accept responsibility for the fact that you belong to a party that tried to cover up for a pervert who can’t take “no” for an answer. Get it?
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:07 am*ahem*
No child left behind?
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:07 amYou’re no better than Foley.
Comment by WTF? — October 3, 2006 @ 1:03 am
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Oh, please! Drop the Marty crap! You’d be saying the same thing if this was a Dem scandal.
Remember sweetie, you’re the party of family val-u’s but one of yours has been caught trying to bugger one of the kids! TOO BAD, you lose, this game!
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:10 amshould have been martyr
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:12 amboy… jpv and big dave, and whoever else, really DON’T want any smart and caring people to VOTE DEMOCRATIC in a few weeks… wonder why…
OVERSIGHT . CHECKS & BALANCES . THE CONSTITUTION …
… SUBPOENA POWER… to name a few…
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:18 am.
I think it is fairly obvious that the Republican leadership is searching high and low for a Democrat committing the same acts. Then they will issue a press release about the Dems are doing the same thing and they [the Repubs] will do all they can to put a stop to the behavior, especially both parties are guilty.
I think it is just a matter of days before they come up with a Dem’s e-mails or IMs. If they can’t find any, they will make it up or at least allude that there some dirt on the Dems too.
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:49 amThis is not a political issue and shame on my fellow Americans for trying to turn it into one. This is a story of one man immoral (and probably criminal) acts. And am disgusted that my children will now be subjected to months of the cable news, newspaper, and radio repeating over and over again the explicit emails.
At the same time, I recognize the Republican party did what any employer would do if one of their employee’s was accused of hitting on an intern. Investigate, but without solid proof, ultimately do nothing.
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:51 amPresidents worry about what their legacies will be. Bill Clinton’s legacy will be that he was the “SEX EDUCATION†PRESIDENT.†And Hillary will be the wife and enabler of the “SEX EDUCATION†PRESIDENT. Together they brought oral sex into the grade schools of America!
October 3rd, 2006 at 1:54 amYou RePug Trolls are garbage, you are dreaming if you think you can spin this as a Dems do it also issue.
October 3rd, 2006 at 2:04 amYou just go on defending the pedophiles in your ranks, it becomes you and I would expect nothing less.
REMEBER: it is always the cover-up not the crime that gets you in politics. Regardless of whether or not some democratic perverts emerge in this the SCANDAL is the COVERUP by Republican House leadership who were more interested in protecting their own than in protecting idealistc young students.
October 3rd, 2006 at 2:13 ameven if they manage to find a dem involved in it, it was still on the watch of the republican majority and their leadership who refused to act.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:26 amWow, look at the fascist troll in here defending the pedophiles, and pathetically attempting to brush off the Republican culture of corruption as the “exception to the rule” haha, what a joke.
I’ve had it with these traitors. Going after the Constitution isn’t enough for them, now they have to go after America’s children???
We should round these bastards up and have them all tarred and feathered, drop them off in front of the capitol and watch them all squeel like the sick demons they are.
It’s beyond time for a little tea party of our own.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:33 amNo one “sat” on the conversations. In fact, people went to the Republican leadership in late 2005, and again this spring. Nothing was done. Oh, and as early as 2001, staff members were warning male pages to stay away from Rep. Mark Foley, the chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children?
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:48 amAnyone think it beyond Karl Rove to have a sleeper cell of men willing to shoot some kids in order to divert attention? Did anyone see him shoot himself? Wag the GOP
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:14 amWomen should throw their own “Tea Party” against pious pedophiles by launching a global strike to deprive GOP and Vatican pervs of fresh victims.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:17 amPresidents worry about what their legacies will be. Bill Clinton’s legacy will be that he was the “SEX EDUCATION†PRESIDENT.†And Hillary will be the wife and enabler of the “SEX EDUCATION†PRESIDENT. Together they brought oral sex into the grade schools of America!
Comment by Bill
And Reagan made it fashionable to arm terrorists and dictators!
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:41 amYes, yes Bill. And W’s legacy will be complete, utter and total incompetence and cronyism. Not to mention the deaths and torture of thousands of innocents.
Nice legacy.
October 3rd, 2006 at 6:00 amI love comments from the “No Child’s Behind Left Untouched” party!
October 3rd, 2006 at 6:05 amYou Dems hoping that more Reps are going to be exposed in this may be in for a big surprise. With Dems like Ted Kennedy and others, we’ll just have to wait and see. Culture of GOP corruption? Hahahaha
October 3rd, 2006 at 6:14 amIs the President a Pederast?
October 3rd, 2006 at 6:21 amRabbit Hole Of Elitist Perversion Far Deeper Than Foley
October 3rd, 2006 at 6:36 amhttp://prisonplanet.com/ articles/ october2006/ 021006elitistperversion.htm
Klaus, please point out which Dem leaders are not pedophiles, and provide evidence.
Foley’s actions do not fit the definition of pedophilia. He is a homosexual, not a pedophile.
THE LEGAL AGE OF CONSENT IN DC IS 16 BY THE WAY.
Comment by Thinkyou’reCommies — October 2, 2006 @ 10:37 pm
Well thinkyou’reCommies….1) a little too convenient for the congressmen abusing the page system isn’t it…bring them into DC from other parts of the country to “molest” them in DC at the tender age of 16. 2) If they are residing in a state (where they are minors) with statutory rape laws that differ from DC there are most likely legal problems with your argument. 3) Beyond the age argument there is still a problem with someone who is their “employer/boss” (ie they are in a position to effect their later employment by letters of reference) taking advantage of them sexually.
October 3rd, 2006 at 6:48 amDon’t you THINK, Thinkyou’reCommies….I do!!
Steve, could you be a little more specific? Care to actually back up your assertions with FACTS? No, I guess not…
October 3rd, 2006 at 6:49 amIt’s the president, the executive branch, the hill, the military, the government; it’s all of us, each in our own little way. It may not be so easy to morally condemn or as obvious as abusing a page. It’s more than likely something that we’re unaware of. But we’re all trashing society, the country, the world, and all of humanity. Things don’t approach the convergence we’re headed for without widespread participation in failing to move humanity forward on all accounts. The sad part is we all think we’re getting away with something because we’re able to hide behind some phony shield that grants us anonymity or license. Everyone has got an excuse and a reason. Everyone has a twisted justification. Like voracious pigs we are consuming everything; including our own waste. And all we can do is babble in increasing intensity and regularity.
October 3rd, 2006 at 6:51 amoctober surprise theorists…
October 3rd, 2006 at 6:58 amthis may be why 12 dems voted to kill habeas corpus among the many other spineless votes by dinos.
anyone, and i mean anyone, who supports this admin and congress is a traitor to the constitution and bill of rights that is the usa. period.
Excerpt from NYT article:
Mr. Hastert defended the Republicans’ handling of a parent’s complaint last year about communication from Mr. Foley to the parent’s teenage son. But he acknowledged that the e-mail inquiring about the boy’s well being and requesting a photo was potentially troubling.
“I think that raised a red flag, raised a red flag with the kid, raised a red flag with the parents,†said Mr. Hastert, who repeated that he could not recall learning of the messages before news of them broke last week. But the speaker said he and others had been “duped†by Mr. Foley, who when questioned about the e-mail said it was an innocent effort to make sure that the young man, who was from Louisiana, had made it through Hurricane Katrina.
…enquiring if he “and his family†made it through the hurricane is expressing a concern, but then to immediately request a picture to be sent is NOT “innocentâ€, and is something entirely different, and therefore should have led to a full scale investigation.
Mr. Foley, 52, who resigned Friday after being confronted with sexually explicit instant messages he had sent to pages, released a statement saying he had entered a rehabilitation clinic for treatment of “alcoholism and related behavioral problems.â€
At a news conference in West Palm Beach, Fla., late Monday, Mr. Foley’s lawyer, David Roth, said that Mr. Foley had sent the inappropriate e-mail messages while under the influence of alcohol and that he had kept his drinking problem secret.
A former aide and other associates said in interviews that they did not believe Mr. Foley had a drinking problem.
..Just as it appears that the delay in reprimanding Foley for his “indiscretion†is to hold onto political power by maintaining a Republican seats in the House, so it appears that having Foley check into a rehabilitation clinic for treatment is for the sole purpose of attempting to avoid being confronted by the press and the public (i.e. to delay this until after the election). This entire sequence of “abuse†and possible “cover up†is eerily familiar to the way the Catholic Church sheltered and protected its child molesters.
October 3rd, 2006 at 6:59 amthe phrases “blue dress” and “October surprise” are somehow coming to mind here…
October 3rd, 2006 at 7:06 am[…] With the Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL) scandal breaking last Friday, it’s causing a bit of a stir in Congress. What really caught my eye was this bit from ABC news: BRIAN ROSS: So far, Foley is the only member whose overt sexual approaches have been documented. Charlie? […]
October 3rd, 2006 at 7:37 amRev. Debra Haffner writes (www.debrahaffner. blogspot.com) that it is “ironic that Rep. Foley has been the chair of the caucus on missing and exploited children. I wrote back in June how misguided this bill was in concentrating on registries for treated sex offenders to keep children safe from abuse. Because the facts are again that abuse of children is perpetuated by people children and teens know and often know well. Ninety percent of the time. This young man knew to tell. But not all young people do. That’s where prevention has to come in.”
October 3rd, 2006 at 7:37 amWhere’s Gen. Boykin when you need him. Is he not the spokesman for all those who invoked the words ” GWB is President because God wanted it. He is the shepperd that will lead America into the promised land ” [that is HE, his Republican buddies in the Congress and Senate and Karl Rove.
On ward “pervert’ soldiers…..
October 3rd, 2006 at 8:14 amYou dems are so funny. Get all hot and self-righteous when a republican shows his faults, but sweep it all under the table and ignore it on the many many times that any dem is shown to be less than ideal.
I guess it’s just that people expect the republicans to be good people, but it’s taken for granted that the dems are sinners.
Vote Libertarian!
October 3rd, 2006 at 8:24 amI’m a republican
Vote Libertairian!!
October 3rd, 2006 at 8:30 am“Ironic”?
It’s not ironic. It’s the pattern of an experienced sexual predator of minors.
He establishes “perfect” credentials. He finds avenues that give access to his target age group of minors.
He casts his net in the form of flattering personal contacts.
From there, the contact becomes increasingly more intimate, then more sexual, then more overtly sexual (as in these IMs). Then there’s a meeting — where the desired contact may occur.
Foley’s behavior is that of a predator.
October 3rd, 2006 at 8:37 amTo all the trolls: Keep defending your sick Repugs by saying Dems do it too. Name one! One! that wants to have sex with boys.
And stop with the frigging 16 is the age of consent. Apparently, this has been going on with a number of boys. Are they all living in DC? Morons. If one lives in Va, then what?
I just wish he was caught by Perverted Justice in 20/20. After all, he’s as sick as those wackos.
October 3rd, 2006 at 8:37 amThis is turning into the biggest scandal in DC since the Teapot Dome ,only its sleazier.So much filth on Capitol Hill.Nothing but horny old (mostly) Republicans using the page system as their own personal harem.There may be a Dem or two involved,but the GOP are the ones in control and should have done something about their perverts
October 3rd, 2006 at 8:42 amThe October surprise will be the bombing of Iran and it will blast Foley. Condi and Rumsfeld’s sins of lewdness, lying and incompetence right out of the news!
October 3rd, 2006 at 8:45 amIt doesn’t matter what state the kids lived in. With the legislation that Foley himself had a hand in writing, what he was doing, with KIDS UNDER 18, is a felony. If it happened online, the age of consent for “dirty talk” is 18. If he was asking a 16 year old about his masturbation habits, or telling him that he’d like to disrobe him, IT IS ILLEGAL. I don’t care if your states age of consent is 10, under the law that FOLEY HAD A HAND IN WRITING, the age of consent is 18.
October 3rd, 2006 at 8:47 amWell, I guess that the substance-abuse/rehab routine is right from the common playbook for damage-control by today’s professional image-makers. If Foley could possibly get on Oprah, cough-up the dirt, and produce a few well-placed tears, then before you know it, we might even be talking about a dramatic, televised comeback!
About 20 years ago, there was a GOP Congressman, Rep. Robert Bauman (from MD, Eastern Shore if I remember correctly). Bauman was caught “on his knees” in front of a page (or similar teenage male). Even though Bauman had Evangelical Christian connections in his ‘base’, he went with a last-ditch “I was really drunk and didn’t know what I was doing” defense. As if every American man is only a few beers away from suddenly being “of service” to any young boys in the area!
I’m thinking that it didn’t quite work for former Rep. Bauman (R-MD).
October 3rd, 2006 at 8:57 amAnd Foley checks into a prorgam for alcohol addition…..yeah, you better run and hide!
October 3rd, 2006 at 9:09 amTHIS IS NOT A REPUBLICAN VS DEMOCRAT ISSUE. This is about abuse of power.
Foley abused his position of power - and Hastert tried to cover it up until after the election.
When Clinton screwed around, he was (rightly) penalized. I recall all of these republicans that came out with this holier than thou attitude. With Foley, I have yet to hear the same righteous indignation from these selfsame republicans? I thought they were the party of morals?
You can’t be the party of morals, and then proceed to sweep your own faults under the rug.
This incident will be remembered as the final straw for the “righteous” republican party - hypocrites. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
October 3rd, 2006 at 9:10 amOh, wow. The latest is that Foley is going to rehab for alcohol abuse. Didn’t they just use that one with Bob Ney? Is that the best they can come up with? You know, I’ve been drunk in the past. Not often.. but, every couple of years, and I’ve never sent IM’s to children asking about their masturbation, or taken money for bribes. (Ok, so no one’s offered the latter, still!) As far as the further investigation, you know they’re going to dig as hard as they can to find a Democrat. The thing is, they’re so skillful. They’ll hint that there’s a lot of this going on, and it sets the neo-con people to think that there probably IS a Democrat involved! This makes them feel better about themselves. They only have to allude to it. Remember what they did to McCain, and the “illegitimate black baby” smear? They truly are masterful at this.
October 3rd, 2006 at 9:11 amI think a great choice for the Republicans in 2008 would be a Foley/Allen ticket- What do you think?
Running on the platform of “Welcome to America - and the real world of Republicanismâ€
October 3rd, 2006 at 9:14 am- Macaca style……
God save us from this racist, immoral, & disgusting GOP.
While I know it’s not the same thing and I expect to be attacked by some for saying this, I got the same sick feeling reading the Foley emails as I did watching excerpts from “Jesus Camp”. I thought those children were being abused and should be separated from the parents that sent them there.
October 3rd, 2006 at 9:33 am.
FYI:
Tomorrow (Wednesday), the biggest GOP pow wow ever will convene in Washington, a veritable who’s who of the US version of the “Republican Guard.”
Ask GW where his daddy will be tomorrow - along with Kissinger, Baker, Schwarzkopf, you name it - ALL OF THEM.
IT IS OVER.
They ALL knew about the Foley crimes.
They ALL covered it up.
They are ALL going down.
Half of these guys also had foreknowledge of 9/11…and some of them helped to plan and implement it.
Alert The Media.
I want to see these frightened stooges on the news tomorrow night.
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October 3rd, 2006 at 10:07 am.
“THE 9/11 STAKESâ€
A horse racing analogy.
And now we take you to the “911 Stakes,” already in progress…
“AND DOWN THE STRETCH THE COME…
…with “Surprised” giving up the early lead to “Let It Happen,†driving hard along the rail – and “Made It Happen†moving up on the outside! It’s “Let It Happen†and “Made It Happen,†neck and neck now, with seven lengths on the rest of the field - with “Surprised,†“Shocked†and “Faulty Intelligence†rounding out the field…
It’s “Let It Happen†and “Made It Happen†in a PHOTO FINISH!
And the winner is…
…Israel, by a nose!â€
.
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:08 amThis comment almost made my head explode:
“You dems are so funny. Get all hot and self-righteous when a republican shows his faults, but sweep it all under the table and ignore it on the many many times that any dem is shown to be less than ideal.
I guess it’s just that people expect the republicans to be good people, but it’s taken for granted that the dems are sinners.
Vote Libertarian!
Comment by Dan — October 3, 2006 @ 8:24 am”
No, no, no, I don’t EXPECT this behavior from any Congressman, regardless of party. I don’t care what color their tie is, if they were involved in any of this they must get booted. Period. The efeects of this may become partisan, but the core issue is not. And please stop pretending an extramarital affair with a woman over the age of 18 is the same as soliciting 16 year olds (of either sex). I didn’t approve of Monica, but to say this is the same thing is absolutely incomprehensible!
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:08 amA Libertarian Vote is a Republican Vote.
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:18 am#147 I only get self-righteous when it involves a child under the age of 17.
Thank you very much.
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:29 amMore pages are coming forward with allegations! Interesting.
Think about what the Bush admin has done with the detainees at Gitmo. These men cannot defend themselves in court as every other American can. These men must feel utterly trapped. Kind of like being arrested in some foriegn country and accused of drug smuggling when you know you didn’t do it. You have very little hope.
Now think how these Republicans could easily put in a similar situation. I would hate to think that any former pages out there would deiliberatly lie about advances from polititians but it seems possible that some polititians could be targetted. Puts them in a spot similar to the detainees. Good luck proving they didn’t make advances!
Just a thought.
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:40 amIf any more names do come out, there will certainly be some Democrats involved, just like there will be more Republicans involved. I think that Congress is infested with selfish, power hungry people who have forgotten what the true reason they were elected for is. It goes the same on both sides of the aisle and I am dissapointed that any of you would actually crow in delight at the idea that the Republicans are going to take a fall when the root cause of it all is the molestation of a young man, even if the man in question WAS willing. It’s a disgraceful use of Foley’s position of power to influence a young and naive boy. Somewhat like Clinton’s disgraceful use of his power and position to seduce Monica Lewinski. Except of course, she was 18 or 19 at the time, so that makes it all okay. Right?
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:40 amWhat is wrong with you Republicans? So, are you saying that it’s okay for a 50+ year-old man to hit on a 16 year-old? This makes me sick. As a mother and a victim of molestation (at 16), all I, can say is if this were my child I would hold those that covered this up just as guilty as Foley. I pray that it never happens to your children.
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:45 amIf there are Democrats involved in this sick scenario then they should fall too. We just have to get rid of this trash in Congress. Either Republican or Democrat.
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:48 amNope…she was 21….Free, White, and 21….read the facts and weep, Mr. Mark.
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:49 amUnfortunately, this page scandal comes at a time when the most egregious legislation that has ever come out of Congress has been passed - and it redefines Article III of the Geneva Convention and also gives Bush the power to declare American citizens as “enemy combatants” and lock them away with no legal recourse.
As appalling as the page scandal is - it and other recent news such as the school shootings have taken the heat off Congress on this unconstitutional legislation - And Americans won’t understand the implications of the legislation until it’s too late. For all practical purposes, we are now living in a dictatorship as per this extraordinary power given to the President - and America remains silent on the issue. I suggest reading an essay by William River Pitts on the matter, and it’s an eye opener that most people aren’t even aware of… LINK
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:52 amI’m afraid that what is next could be further exploitation of another young page– but this one will have been persuaded by amoral adults that it’s in the best interest of the country to make this the biggest possible problem for Democrats as well (if in fact none are involved). This administration already turns young men to cannon fodder, so what’s to keep them from mere mental manipulation? It would turn an unpleasant real event into a circus of competing narratives, a trademark tactic of this administration. Might even be true, but we won’t find out till later, of course.
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:54 amCan we agree that this is not an issue of partisan politics, but an abuse of power? If more pages step forward, I would be shocked if Congressmen from both sides of the aisle are not named. I am proud to be labelled a Democrat, but I’m not so naive as to think some Democrats aren’t also guilty of getting drunk on power.
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:54 amThe hypocrisy of the Republican religious nucleus is the reason that the behavior of one elected official taints all Republican candidates. Don’t accuse the voters of being unfair.
Welding religion onto our government wins elections, but it does come with a heavy price for the candidates and for the civilization it inescapably seeks to rule.
The fall of yet another holier-than-thou Republican may alarm the casual voter to the dangers that lie ahead for America if we keep drifting away from the three independent branches of government concept and the disconnection of church and state.
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:08 amwasn’t Karl Rove connected with the whole North Dakota incident in the ’80s? http://www.voxfux.com/ features/ bush_child_sex_coverup/ franklin.htm
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:09 amWasn’t Karl Rove involved in that whole scandal in the ’80s with the Bush sex thing? http://www.voxfux.com/ features/ bush_child_sex_coverup/ franklin.htm
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:12 amGet all these F***ing freaks and perverts out of our government! I don’t car WHICH party they’re in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:26 amHere a section from a nice little article I found -
In 1983, then-Democratic Rep. Gerry Studds of Massachusetts was caught in a similar situation. In his case, Studds had sex with a male teenage page — something Foley hasn’t been charged with.
Did Studds express contrition? Resign? Quite the contrary. He rejected Congress’ censure of him and continued to represent his district until his retirement in 1996.
In 1989, Rep. Barney Frank, also of Massachusetts, admitted he’d lived with Steve Gobie, a male prostitute who ran a gay sex-for-hire ring out of Frank’s apartment. Frank, it was later discovered, used his position to fix 33 parking tickets for Gobie.
What happened to Frank? The House voted 408-18 to reprimand him — a slap on the wrist. Today he’s an honored Democratic member of Congress, much in demand as a speaker and “conscience of the party.”
In 2001,Clinton, who had his own intern problem, commuted the prison sentence of Illinois Rep. Mel Reynolds, who had sex with a 16-year-old campaign volunteer and pressured her to lie about it. (Reynolds also was convicted of campaign spending violations.)
You get the idea. Democrats not only seem OK with the kind of behavior for which Foley is charged, but also they protect and excuse it. Only when it’s a Republican do they proclaim themselves shocked! — when it comes to light.
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:31 amOh come now, as Americans, the rest of the world understands that you people wouldn’t have the balls to do what it takes to change your government even if your president was Adolf Hitler on a genocide binge.
You’re the country of gutless wonders, the new America.
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:38 amMy growing outrage here is less against Foley (as despicable as his behavior was) and more against the GOP leadership that apparently did nothing about this issue, despite knowledge that allegedly goes back 5+ years. That Hastert is doomed seems forgone. The fact that Tom Reynolds’ (the freakin’ Chair of the NRCC) Chief of Staff was lobbying ABC News to sit on the IMs tells me more are probably