Hastert: Foley Scandal Is A Liberal Conspiracy To ‘Get To Me’ And ‘Affect Our Election’
Hastert: Foley Scandal Is A Liberal Conspiracy To ‘Get To Me’ And ‘Affect Our Election’
Interviewed by Rush Limbaugh today, House Speaker Hastert said Mark Foley’s inappropriate behavior was “a political issue” and promised Rush that “we are going on offense.”
The “offense” is an effort to portray the scandal as a conspiracy specifically timed by liberals to affect the elections. “We are the insulation to protect this country,” Hastert declared, “and if they get to me it looks like they could affect our election as well”:
SPEAKER HASTERT: There were two pieces of paper out there, one that we knew about and we acted on; one that happened in 2003 we didn’t know about, but somebody had it, and, you know, they’re trying — and they drop it the last day of the session, you know, before we adjourn on an election year. Now, we took care of Mr. Foley. We found out about it, asked him to resign. He did resign. He’s gone. We asked for an investigation. We’ve done that. We’re trying to build better protections for these page programs.
But, you know, this is a political issue in itself, too, and what we’ve tried to do as the Republican Party is make a better economy, protect this country against terrorism — and we’ve worked at it ever since 9/11, worked with the president on it — and there are some people that try to tear us down. We are the insulation to protect this country, and if they get to me it looks like they could affect our election as well.
Full transcript here.
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What a maroon.
Sean: 2006 minus 3 is 2003. If some Democrats found out about these instant messages 3 years ago, which you have zero evidence for, then why weren’t they used in the 2004 Presidential elections?
What’s that sound? It’s the sound of you REEEEEEEAAAAAACHING.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:15 pmIt’s all CLin…
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:16 pmno.. NO.. it’s all the gays fau….
Oh wait! Now it’s the DEMS fault!
I’m getting whiplash.
Great.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:16 pmDruggie Limpblow & Slannity are now our moral conscience.
Hastert, you fat ass, the only facts you’re concerned about
is how to make more money.
You’re a liar, not a leader.
The day I believe anything Limpblow says is the day I vote Red.
(Don’t hold your breath.)
Please, go on the “offense”, show just how “tough” you aren’t on Child Predators…
Man, It’s about time the Grand Old Perverts are shown for what they are: Power, nothing but.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:16 pmHave we seen through these people yet? Had enough?
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:17 pmAmazing. I guess the liberals are responsible for covering up Foley’s behavior. Yeah, right. It’s all them. THEM, THEM, THEM, THEM… brought to you by the party of responsibility.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:17 pmMore Rovian talking points. It won’t work this time. GOP can’t blame liberals for Foley’s transgressions. GOP doesn’t have moral high ground. They are beneath contempt.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:17 pmEvery time he opens his mouth he somehow manages to shove his foot in deeper.
How do you talk when your almost shin deep?
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:18 pmWho is this “they” that he keeps trying to blame. It was one of your own guys cardinal Hastert! You and your party did this to yourselves. Ironic how they hate that Clinton tried to blame the vast rightwing conspiracy, but they then try and do the same.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:19 pmWho is this “they” that he keeps trying to blame. It was one of your own guys cardinal Hastert! You and your party did this to yourselves. Ironic how they hate that Clinton tried to blame the vast rightwing conspiracy, but they then try and do the same.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:19 pmNo, Denny, there is no “liberal conspiracy” here. The Foley thin would be no big deal for the GOP if you hadn’t tried to cover the whole thing up. Hastert is right in that it will affect the election. http://www.polibuzz.blogspot.com
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:20 pmThe GOP is in trouble.
Who knew about it and did NOTHING?
GOP (and now apparently Faux News)
Who stated it looks like an issue that could effect the elections?
GOP
Who kept the matter from the Democrat on the Page committee?
GOP
Who will be the new Majority come Nov because America has HAD ENOUGH?
DEMS
America sees right through your failures, incompetent, and disdain for governance.
Don’t feel bad for these assclown they are just going to be lobbyists before they had planned.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:20 pmWasn’t he a wrestling coach? Do you think Denny also felt up a few twinkies in his day? Maybe they were buddies, he and Foley. Maybe they got together to go fishin for some chicken meat. Someone had better get a warrant on all of Denny’s computers.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:23 pmWe found out about it, asked him to resign. Really? The GOP got him to resign? It didn’t result from ABC showing him the emails?
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:23 pmNews to me.
The Bush administration has now successfully brought Congress into line so that men held in Guantánamo Bay will be denied the right to habeas corpus. If they are tried at all, it will be before military commissions and the prisoners will not know what evidence is given against them. In addition, evidence will be accepted that is hearsay or obtained by torture. And, the US president can now arbitrarily detain anyone, anywhere, who he deems an enemy combatant, and they can no longer count on the legal process to protect them. This is the most serious perversion of the US constitution, and a green light to regimes around the world who prefer to “disappear” people rather than try them - practices that were notorious and condemned worldwide under military regimes in Latin America and Africa a generation ago.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:23 pmThe Republicans have had six years to do SOMETHING to protect our children from school violence, and they’ve done nothing at all!
Why do the Republicans hate our school children?!?! WHY!?!?!?
See how easy it is to point fingers rather than doing something to stop (insert problem here).
If the Republicans have the power, and they’ve wasted their time chasing after underage boys and trying to get donations, how are they better for our country?
Vote for anyone OTHER than a Republican, unless you like “borrow and aquander”, no safe place for underage pages, war with no end in sight, and debt higher than Pres. Bush doing blow.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:24 pmYou can see the raw footage of John Laesch addressing this issue yesterday in Chicago here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLMQyu_AGCs
Just uploaded minutes before post!
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:24 pm[…] Denny Hastert. Why oh why do liberals hate America? Permalink| […]
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:25 pmJust when you thought Hastert had hit bottom, he pulls out his shovel and keeps on digging.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:25 pmAnother thing: if we’re speculating on who held off the information for political purposes…
…what if the GOP did it to themselves? What if they saw they were going to lose Congress in a big way, and decided to fall on a sword of their own choosing? Is there a better way to reinforce their gay-bashing constituency than to throw them an egregious example of their own?
A Night of the Long Knives has “purged” more than one political party of its unseemly elements over the years…
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:25 pmWhat’s sad about this whole Foley debacle is…
…Foley too is a victim…
…of the crass, ignorant, racist, bigoted attitudes the majority culture (by and large) in America has towards homosexuals, minorities and just anybody who’s different…
…would this even be an issue (the boy’s age notwithstanding) had Foley (and others like him including Bush, Gannon, and all the other White House closet gays)…
…been allowed to come out at an early age…
…without fear of physical, emotional, professional and all other forms of harrassment and condemnation?
…this morning a Repulsivescum Bushite caller on C-Span (from Illinois) called in and like all of the other repulsivescum inbred Bushites equivocated Foley’s behavior and brought up Clinton and Franks…
…he ended his comments by referring to Democrats as the party of pedophiles…
…I tried mightily to get in to rebut his remarks…
…one MAJOR omission from this whole scandal and “debate”is the fact that…
…this boy’s parents (obviously Repulsivescum Bushites)…
…didn’t want the issue pressed…
…regardless of WHY they didn’t want the issue pressed…
…the FACT remains that by keeping it quiet, covering it up, and allowing the Repulsivescum Party leadership in Congress to do likewise…
…they ALL endangered OTHER 16 year old pages (and God only knows how many other children in these Repulsivescum inbreds’ communities and families)…
…so now WHO’s the Party of pedophiles?…
…and Mr. Illinois can you say Congressman Jerry Scuznik (last name spelling erroneous for sure)…
…the Illinois Repulsivescum representative who despite being caught having an affair with a 17 year old male page…
…was re-elected by Illinois voters and eventually retired from Congress?…
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:26 pmI’m sorry…I know this is a minor quibble, in the grand scheme of things, but….
“and if they get to me it looks like they could affect our election as wellâ€
OUR election?
STFU Denny.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:27 pmThese people are clinically freakin’ insane.
As others have noted, if this was all known in 2003, why not bring it up before the ‘04 presidential election?
If it’s the liberals’ fault, why did Fox News also sit on the e-mails (pun acknowledged, not intended)?
What happened to all that pesonal responsibility the G(r)OPers crow about?
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:29 pmEvidently the GOP and Hastert in particular, find this whole “America’s media doesn’t want to support pedophiles” thing a bit objectionable. I wonder why?
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:29 pmThe mean old Democrats….ain’t they bad people. Covering up the actions a sexual predator just for political purposes for three years and then getting a $100,000 campaign contribution kickback to keep hush about it, then not involving the other political side in dealing with this because they are too partisan…..wait was that the Dems?…..
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:30 pmAgain,
Anyone who knew about this should resign including Hasert.
I believe Hasert was saying that these other IM’s and such he didn’t know about but some Dems did and held them until right before the Election. He is right or at least looks that way. ABC is part of the left wing of the Dem party. If they knew or had these IM’s for years and just came out with them know, whoever it was at ABC who knew should go to jail. If we find out that ABC or any other left wing group had these for over 2 years and didn’t call the authorities, they really belong in a Federal jail along with Hasert.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:30 pmHell yeah its a conspiracy, and it’s going swimmingly. Bye HeyFart.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:30 pmYeah, it’s the liberals fault. It’s a liberal conspiracy who forced Foley to chase young boys, and covered it all up until now. Hastert had nothing whatsoever to do with it. When ABC entertainment ran a smear piece on Clinton a few weeks ago, that was fair game - but this one, involving young pages is a conspiracy. These guys are twisted.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:31 pmHouse Speaker Hastert said Mark Foley’s inappropriate behavior was “a political issue†and promised Rush that “we are going on offense.â€
Keep digging Denny, that hole needs to get a bit deeper.
I’d like to see Denny say to the page’s parents that Foley’s behavior was a political issue. He’d get slugged in the guts.
Going on offense? Too late, Denny, you’re already offensive.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:31 pmIf the Speaker of the House of Representatives of the United States of America has to resort to pleading his case on the talk radio show of such a contemptible druggie as Rush Limbaugh, it is all over for that man.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:31 pmNot nearly enough people in the US who vote have any respect or even regard for Limbaugh to make any difference in this coming election.
Fat Bassturd, run for your life…
Here comes Election with a carving knife…
About a month ago, the GOP announced their upcoming election strategy: to “dig up dirt” on Democrats and hurl it to the public. (Sean Hannity, apparently, thought that was fine).
At any rate, Hastert’s positioning is an act of desparation. The FBI had some of the emails and IMs in the middle of summer, and FOX news apparently had but quashed the story long before ABC took it to the public.
Hastert’s toast. He’s the only one who doesn’t know it. Except maybe Limbaugh.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:32 pmWhy do the American people and especially the MSM allow them to turn a scandal into an attack on the left?
The soul of this nation is dying and the MSM is preventing Aid workers from administering CPR.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:34 pmNew Repug slogan:
Save the Hastertcyst! Don’t let them destroy the Hastertcyst, it’s god’s creation.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:35 pmGoing on offense? Hell, these guys have been offensive for years.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:35 pmRogerx2,
I really appreciate that you agree anyone involved in this should resign immediately.
ABC, the network that aired The Path to 9/11, is not part of the liberal media. They are simply, finally, doing their job and reporting the news.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:35 pmRoger_Roger
ABC released path to 9/11. Both ABC News is owned by the same company, and ultimately answers to the same guys.
Yeah shoowah they are the Democrat version of Fox News.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:36 pmI’m tellin ya - we’re going to have to wage a full-blown, armed and bloody civil war to rid ourselves of the wingnut contingent. They are so deep in the kool-aid, and so firmly entrenched in business and the media that nothing else will work. A generation of simpletons will continue to support them no matter how heinous and obvious their crimes, and nothing that a bunch of us can say or do will reverse the National course. That’s not pessimism talking, either, it’s the plain old practical truth.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:37 pmSo, which Democrat put a gun to Foley’s head and force him to type those emails to underage boys?
I mean, if it IS the Dems fault, then clearly Foley didn’t write those kids of his own volition. Because, you see, then it would be…HIS fault. And anyone who knew about it but did nothing…THEIR fault. So yeah, it makes sense that there’s this vast Democratic network that forced Foley to act like he wanted to touch young boys inappropriately, and then forced any GOPers who found about it to keep their mouths shut. THAT’S why there’s a Democratic minority, because if they were doing all this kind of chicanery while in the majority, THAT might seem odd…
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:38 pmWhy are the conservatives criminalizing politics?
Bringing this out at this time is just politics as usual. You dork wads have used timing for everying. Now that the tables are turned your crying foul. Gimme a break, the right has been playing dirty politics for 12 years now. Go take a leap.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:38 pmBoth ABC News should read:
Both that and ABC News.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:38 pm“ABC is part of the left wing of the Dem party.”
Considering the fictional show aired on ABC a few weeks ago presented as a representation of the 9/11 Commission findings, this statement is as delusional as Hastert’s claim.
The corporate networks prefer Republicans in power for deregulation purposes. Just follow the money.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:39 pmAnyone sick and tired of all this? I certainly am. Either party deserves our votes. Let’s send them a message - vote for the third party of your choice, any third party will do.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:40 pmYes, if you’re listening to the Limbaugh show in the first place (and not for ironic purposes or keeping tabs for TP) you’re probably not going to be voting democrat no matter what. What I guess will happen is that much of their base will simply not vote on election day. And what independents they had in the last two election cycles will probably not vote for them or vote Dem.
Hastert can’t wait this one out. He, his office and his party now smell of hypocrisy and child endangerment.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:41 pmAll of the defenders, Hastart, Hannity, Coulter, that other dork on a previous thread. All are blowing air in vain. This has severly crippled the Republican party for November, and all the spin in the world ain’t gonna fix it.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:41 pmHey TP, how about that interrogation bill? Hmmmm?
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:43 pmNull
While normally I would agree with you on voting a third party, in the context of this story all it shows is that you shouldn’t vote Republican.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:43 pmHi Truth,
How they hangin’?
:-)
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:43 pmWhy are you guys attacking Foley with such Vigor?
Do you remember Gerry Studs (D)? He was also a congressman from Massachusetts. He admitted to having sex with a underage male Page. Did the Dems tell him to resign? NOPE and he continued in congress until his retirement in 1996.
How about Barney Franks (D). Also from Massachusetts. This man paid for male prostitutes. He also lived with one and let this male prostitute run a prostitution business out of his apartment. He also got this “friend” out of 30 parking tickets. Did the Dems demand he resign? NOPE and he is still serving. He is also a very in demand speaker for the left wing and is labeled as the “Conscience of the party”.
Of course I could also add President Clinton to the list. Having an affair with a 21 year old staffer was disgusting and very wrong. Did the dems ask him to resign? Nope and they still talk of him as one of there greatest presidents even though his actions were a horrible example for today’s youth.
So, this Foley is an evil man. Did the repugs demand he resign? Yupe and are now calling for a full investigation.
If they knew about it earlier, they should also resign. All this filth sets a horrible example for our youth. How do we expect them to act in a moral way when our leaders like Clinton (D), Gerry Studs (D), and Barney Franks (D) all did horrible immoral acts and are propped up as the moral conscience of there party? If the repugs knew about these IM’s since 03′ they also (those that knew) should be forced to resign as well.
At least this is a repug. We know what happens when a Dem has sex with an underage page. They get a pass.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:43 pmit is clearly very much worse than they are saying for them to come out attacking others the “librul medja”. Fox news knew all about it and hid it, wonder why? How many republican congress people are involved in the coverup? we should start a pool. I am going to start the bidding at 24
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:45 pmLet’s listen to Denny’s phone calls, capture his e-mails and finally, sent him to the Bush goone squads for torture. We’ll get the truth out of this old fart.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:45 pmYeah - Like if the Democrats had it in 2003 they wouldn’t have used in the 2004 elections?! How idiotic.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:45 pmThat silly clown can really look himself in the eye when he is spouting such crap because his rectal/cranial insertion matches that of DUHbya. It is fitting that the only fool that would listen to him without regurgitation is Rash Limpdick but then Rash is regurgitation per se.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:46 pmGood job Roger,
Bring up stuff from 1983, cool. Fox did it yesterday, is that where you got the idea?
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:48 pm“…could affect our election…”
Interesting use of the possessive. Not “the election”. Not “our chances in the election.” But rather “our election”.
Not to mention the copout paranoia “out to get me” BS.
Freud would have had a heyday with these people…
and then offered them a bump…
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:49 pmHi Zooey,
Hangin free and easy. How you doin’?
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:49 pm#26 Roger_Roger You are out of your mind. The Dems did not know about this. It is all REPUBLICANS NOT THE DEMS. The Republican should go to jail. The ABC is Republican not Democrat. They put that ridiculous movie out Path to 9-11 and all the lies smearing Clinton and it was Old Bushies fault we had 9-11 happen not Clintons.
We will win in November and there is nothing you can do about this. HA!!HA!!!
This is unbelievable that the Republican are spinning this.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:50 pmThis is an interesting comment from Hastert:
“we’ve tried to do as the Republican Party is make a better economy, protect this country against terrorism — and we’ve worked at it ever since 9/11,”
So before 9/11 they weren’t working on a better economy or terrorism!!! How telling.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:51 pmRoger_Roger
First off, the Democrats never really made a big deal about being the party of morality.
Second: Monica Lewinsky: Age 21. She was not a minor, she knew what she was doing.
Third: Barney Frank: No evidence exists showing he used the prostitutes, what actually happened was that the prostitution business was being run out of his home. And PS: The prostitutes also had their majority.
Fourth: Gerry Studs: Is no longer current, and was, as you said, put to pasture in 1996. That was almost 10 years ago.
This current issue is about right now, and right now you have in Congress a guy who is willing to let something like that slide thanks to party loyalties. In other words, he didn’t report it because he was more afraid of the press from it, then of the harm to the child. That, I view, as being unnacceptable from a elected official who makes a big deal about his party being the party of responsibility.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:52 pmHow about that time about a hundred years ago when a Republican did something wrong?
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:52 pmWhy are you guys attacking Foley with such Vigor?
What? We’re done with him - now it’s on to Hastert, Boehner, Reynolds, and that one whose name I can’t spell. Pass the popcorn - this scandal could last well into November!
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:53 pmRoger
You don’t GET to proclaim moral superiority and then say “Clinton did it”
You don’t GET to look back 25 -30 years and say “well it happened then”
You don’t GET to make laws protecting minors and then break the VERY SAME LAWS YOU WROTE
You don’t GET to pass DOMA and attempt to pass constitutional amendments limiting rights of a group of people and then say “we would have been labeled as gay bashing”
YOU DON’T GET IT!
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:53 pmFortruth,
I didn’t get that info from anyone, I still remember it. What is good for the goose is good for the gander I suppose. I am just curious why you guys are attacking him for nasty emails and IM’s while you man actually admitted to having sex with an underage page and you let him continue to serve until he retired in 96′. Clinton and Barney Frank are also great examples of what your party does with those that commit horrible and immoral acts. Hell, my guess is you will even put HIllary Clinton up for President even though she didn’t leave her Husband the moment she found out about his affair. Another great example for the young of America.
I don’t care what party your from. When you do these immoral acts, you need to be punished by your party ASAP. We wonder why our youth are becoming more immoral. Just look at congress and a former President (and maybe his ‘wife’ in name only).
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:53 pm…if they get to me it looks like they could affect our election as well.
Who’s this “they” that’s going to affect “our” election? Do we need any additional evidence to prove that to Hastert and the rest of his Nazi brethren, elections and democracy are only for those who goose-step in line with him and the rest of the brownshirts? Last time I checked, it certainly was OUR election — meaning Americans, not just red Americans. And he’s the speaker of OUR House (well, at least for the time being…).
What a complete and utter waste of human protoplasm…perhaps he should just have that heart attack he’s been fighting off for years and the rest of us can get on with cleaning up the sesspool he’s left behind at the end of Pennsylvania Avenue…
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:54 pmRoger,
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:54 pmIf you really don’t understand the difference between consensual sex between adults and pedophilia, and why the latter is an issue while the former is not newsworthy, that’s a serious problem. If you know better, but you’re intentionally trying to blur them together, you’re being dishonest with us and dishonest with yourself.
You are exactly right, Mr. Hastert. The American people smell blood, and we will do whatever it takes to bring you and your party down. All is fair in election year politics. Don’t pretend you don’t know how the game is played.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:54 pmGosh, Hasert is protecting the country.
That must be what the bribes from Turkey are about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Hastert
Thanks, Denny!
ps.
Make some dough on land for your trouble.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:54 pmWe know what happens when a Dem has sex with an underage page. They get a–
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October 3rd, 2006 at 3:54 pmWow..Just when I thought Hastert couldn’t do anything more stupid and inept than before, he keeps managing to raise the bar.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:56 pmhttp://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
this goes way beck, way deep…
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:00 pmThe Frank and Studds thing is not relavant to today. That issue already had its heyday, why even waste your time?
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:00 pmThat man would have sex with every page in Congress if he thought it would help him get reelected.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:02 pmBruce+Gorton,
I fully agree. Foley, Hasert, and any other congressmen that knew about this 1-2 years ago, should be asked to resign right this moment.
I was just pointing out how sad it is that people like Hasert, Clinton, Franks, Hillary Clinton, Studs, and anyone who knew about there imoral ways aren’t asked to resign. The fact that Studs had sex with an underage page and Foley had bad IM’s with one make there immorality even worse. That doesn’t excuse Franks for paying for sex or having a gay prostitution business operate out of his house. It surely doesn’t excuse Bill Clinton for cheating on his wife with a young girl that worked under him and probably feared for her job. Lastly, it doesn’t excuse Hillary Clinton for doing the immoral action of not leaving her Husband when she found out.
These are all very immoral people. Sadly, most not only didn’t resign, but are propped up by there party as there leaders.
Hasert and those that knew about Franks, Studs, and Clinton and didn’t do anything about it right away should also resign. There inaction is almost as bad as the actions of these immoral people.
I really don’t care half as much about which law they broke. I care alot more about what this all looks like for today’s youth. We have people in power that are married, yet having affairs. We have people that know about other congressmen potentially harming children and don’t do a thing. We have leaders that have affairs on there wives and are propped up as “great”.
This all is a horrible example for today’s youth.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:02 pmGuess what Roger, I wasn’t into politics back then, I didn’t even know about it until you whiny little babies had to re-hash it. That sucks that the guy wasn’t removed, he should have been.
Today is today, and what can you do to fix this?
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:03 pmAre you sure you want to go with that one, Denny? I know you guys don’t have much to work with, but I just don’t think the voters are going to buy it. I realize you don’t give them credit for having brains, and a lot of times it seems like they don’t. But, I think you’re dangerously underestimating their intelligence if you think you can convince them that liberals have caused all this bad stuff to happen to you.
The voters aren’t going to forget who all the players are: Foley, you, Boehner, Reynolds, Shimkus, Fox News. All Republicans. You guys sat on the story for years. You deliberately kept it a secret from the one Democrat on the page committee (oh no, that couldn’t have been a political move), you guys warned the pages who reported to Republicans about Foley but gave no such warning to the Democrats’ pages (no political motive there) and then you left Foley to chair the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children Caucus as if nothing had ever happened, so as not to draw suspicion.
Whatever you do, don’t resign. Stay right where you are and fight any efforts to unseat you so the story can keep getting stirred up over the next five weeks. Thanks, man.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:03 pmNow to the real news..
Will Americans Seek Repeal Of Constitution Killing Enabling Act?
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:04 pmOr are Mark Foley’s perverted e mails of more importance to the existence of freedom in the United States?
http://www.infowars.com/ articles/ ps/ terror_laws_will_americans_seek_repeal_constitution_killing_acts.htm
Actually, the page in question was 17 (the age of consent). Oh, and what about Dan Crane (R)? He didn’t resigne, either.
And here’s some info on Frank:
And Lewinsky? She was 23.
All you’re doing is obfuscating the issue.
Besides, you don’t want me to bring up the 34 Republicans indicted or charged with sick sexual proclivities, do you?
Ooops … too late.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:06 pmTo be clear, tha argument against the Republicans and their CYA behavior is neither the gay (or anti-gay) nor the pederasty position. It is simply the issue of another “moral values” Republican abusing his position of power. The hypocritical rhetoric of “trust us” and “we are better for you than the Democrats” is belied by actual behavior. I mean, words are air but events are brass.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:06 pmThe homosexuals I know are disgusted and outraged over Foley’s pediphilia. That said, if the reaction to this is to oust gays from Republican office, are the Bush supporters ready to take out Dreier, Melhman, Rove, to name just a few? There are a lot of them lurking in their closets on the Republican side.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:07 pmOh my God! If this hadn’t been exposed, it would have just gone on and on, with Foley doing who knows what and Hastert doing nothing!
Horrible!
It’s like 9/11. “We didn’t know there was a threat…. ”
Yeah, you did, you were warned!
These people are clueless!
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:09 pmI would take this with a grain of salt, smells like Rover
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:09 pmWow… Ya know, everyday is fairly disgusting living under a republican administration, but reading the stories today, the puke factor is off the charts. The pigs are cornered and lashing out, get ready for a looong election season.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:09 pmOK, tell me, as one who has lived 4000 miles from the USA for the last 10 years what ROTFL means. And yes, I vote absentee every election!!
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:10 pmRoger:
“it doesn’t excuse Hillary Clinton for doing the immoral action of not leaving her Husband when she found out.”
What!?!! Isn’t it technically a “sin” and therefore immoral to Divorce? What the hell are you talking about?
No really.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:11 pmtwo grains of salt..
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:12 pmI see. Because Hastert failed to do what he SHOULD HAVE DONE a year ago, we should be thankful that’s HE DONE NOW what he SHOULD HAVE DONE a year ago, but he WOULDN”T HAVE DONE NOW if not for liberal conspirators. And people calling for Hastert’s resignation aren’t doing so because HE ALLOWED Foley to CONTINUE his predatory/illegal behavior toward young boys, it’s because people want to make it a political issue. In other words, it isn’t about the PAGES and HIS responsibility to PROTECT THEM from sexual predators or that REPUBLICANS have asked SPECIFICALLY for his resignation. It’s not about the pages, morality or right and wrong, it’s really about Republicans desperately trying to hold on to their majority by any and every means possible.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:13 pmHee hee!
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:14 pmYes, it’s that ULTRA LIBERAL ABC news that broke the story. You know, that BASTION OF LIBERAL BROADCASTING that showed the Path to 9/11 recently?
Roger_Roger
Hillary Clinton? Sorry it was Bill that was screwing around and I doubt he filled Hillary in on it before it was revealed to everyone else. Blaming the wife for the husband’s infidelity strikes me as being kind of wierd, calling her immoral for forgiving him, well that strikes me as being a little bit, well, reprehensible in itself. Isn’t forgiveness supposed to be divine or something?
The thing about Bill Clinton’s immoral acts, was they didn’t hurt anybody, nobody got exploited, and it was really a matter of his private life. In short, what happens between consenting adults I really don’t give a stuff about, whether in, out of or around wedlock it really isn’t anyone’s business but those participating in the festivities.
Barney Frank, I feel, should have resigned. It is not a matter of thinking of the guy as being immoral, it is a matter of seeing the guy as having been either immoral or totally switched off to things around him. Neither is a trait I want in a leader, I want someone who is reasonably awake.
Lastly, Studs, as someone pointed out there was a major move to make him resign but I do not know if anyone actually has the ability to force someone in that position to do it. It may well have been that he simply said “No.” If Studs was a current issue, I would agree with you but as it stands the man is irrelevent to the current discussion.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:15 pm‘OUR ELECTION’, indeed.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:16 pmDoes America want a 1 party system?
Is this what you believe, Hasturd?
You’re no leader, you’re one of the pack.
The doo doo you just stepped in will stay
on you ’till after ‘OUR’ election, Hasturd.
Talking heads, all of them.
Stuck on Clenis again??
I’m sure bigdog didn’t get any sex for a while after that.
Why don’t the trolls have more examples of adultery and amoral unethical predatorial behaviour in a high office than I have shown? Cause their hypocrites.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:18 pmIf you Impeached Clinton Then Impeach [Charge] Foley, this isn’t about Hillary. It’s about the do nothing GOP and it’s perverted Reps.
… so… potential criminal wrong doing on the part of ReichWingNuts is a “liberal conspiracy”… right…
Hasert needs to leave. He’s too stupid to hold the position he’s in.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:19 pm“Um, er — it’s — it’s because of the Democrats’ secret cunning — they threw the 2004 elections just to set me up three years later!”
And the loud “CRRRRRAAACK!” we just heard is the sound of his arms snapping off from overreaching.
But, please, Denny — stay in at least until Friday, then resign and let the different GOP House factions fight over who gets to warm the Speaker’s chair for Nancy Pelosi.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:20 pm#50 Roger_Roger
Why are you guys attacking Foley with such Vigor?
Nice try, Roger. I don’t think anyone fell for it, though. You know just as well as we do that we’re not attacking Foley. Go back and read the posts again. This is about Hastert and Limbaugh trying to spin the accountability away from the Republican leadership. It’s the Republicans who would rather focus on Foley. Oh, I guess that’s why you’re trying to do it, too.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:20 pmwould hastert go after the provost, deans and president of a private college where a professor sexually abused his children? you bet he would. that is why he has to step down. gay/straight/liberal/conservative/consensual/pedophile/whatever - this is totally irrelevant - the pages are in the care of the US congress - and after repeated warnings they did nothing to protect the safety of their charges. the investigation needs to center on why congress failed to protect more than one page from the innapropriate sexual advances of Foley.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:21 pmDon’t forget, Monica was put up to it by Linda Tripp, who wanted them to have an affair so she could tape-record the resulting phone conversations with Monica and then play them back for her bridge club. (I only wish I were kidding. That’s how evil Linda Tripp is.)
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:22 pm…a young girl that worked under him and probably feared for her job…
O MY GAWD ! read the starr report - it’s like porn…
monica was a hussy - she came on to a powerful man - she went for it…
as an ex-boyfriend tried to explain to me: “what was i to do - she came over and sat on my lap!”
there’s lots of monicas in the world, and bills for that matter…
and too many foleys…
THIS IS ABOUT SEXUAL HARRASSMENT OF A YOUNG PERSON.
AND THE COVER UP BEING CONSPIRED BY REPUBLICANS.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:24 pm.
This is all too ridiculous for words. Typical, but ridiculous. Blaming anyone but the perp. Blame anyone who didn’t know so you can protect the people who covered it up. Shits.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:24 pm“We found out about it, asked him to resign.”
News to me. My understanding was that the psycho decided to resign after ABC News approached him with a sheaf of his own nastygrams. If the House leadership asked him to resign, I’ve seen absolutely no mention of it by anyone until now.
Can Hastert NOT tell a lie?
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:27 pmPerfect example of swiftboating, straight out of Karl Rove’s playbook. If the Dems haven’t caught on to the Republican strategy to slander them at every opportunity, even when a Rep. member of the House turns out to be a pedophile, they’d better think fast.
When Clinton was slandered by ABC’s 9/11 show, he wasted absolutely no time in setting the record straight. It’s time for the Democratic Party to do the same.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:29 pmtest
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:29 pmWell Mr. Hassert, it could me much worse. What would you say if you learned that hackers have made Diebold machines impervious to tampering even by republican sponsored Diebold goons?
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:29 pmpathetic loser blaming others,, line him up and shoot him ,, leave some of that good air for others
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:29 pmI believe Barney Frank was not involved in the scandal a few years ago — it was his roommate. I think Frank was exonerated, but fined because he should have known. Someone will provide the facts here.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:33 pmPaging Mr. Hastert!
Paging Mr. Hastert!
Now we know what the Republicans mean when they say that they “want to get to the bottom of things”….
Cheers.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:34 pmBruce+Gorton,
Generally I agree with you about affairs being simply a private matter, but that isn’t the case when it is the President of America and the leader of the free world. These are people that our youth look up to. When we simply let this immoral stuff go on with our leaders, it sets a horrible example. Now if some average joe has an affair, it is a private matter (yet still very immoral).
Hilary didn’t forgive Bill. We all know there marriage is one of political convenience at this point and that is immoral. Treating marriage as a stool to advance yourself in a politcal career is very immoral.
I would never let this slide. Thank god Foley is gone already. I truly hope that the Repugs could get on track morally and force Hasert and any other congressmen that knew about this beforehand to resign immediately.
While this issue should be treated as hunt to rid D.C. of immoral people, it will be treated as a political issue only (which is very sad). Washington has a history of letting those that commit these horrible immoral acts of sleeping with underage people, having affairs, and paying for gay prostitutes while being married slide and I am sure they will let Hasert and the rest slide as well.
It is just one more situation that lowers the bar for our moral standard. I guess it can’t get much lower when we have our leaders having sex with children and having affairs with a 21 year old intern.
I believe we should pass a law that actually makes it a felony for any federal congressmen or president to have an affair, simply talk with underage people inappropriately, or pay for sex while being married. Make this felony a mandatory 10 year prison sentence. At least we could then hold our leaders to a higher moral standard. It would be a great message for today’s youth about what is ok morally and what isn’t. If you run for public office, the rules really should change for you as you become a roll model.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:38 pmhttp://foleyhero.blogspot.com/
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:40 pmAnd how exactly Mr. Hastert, does this Liberal conspiracy work? Did those evil liberals invent some kind of mind-control pedo-ray, and use it on a poor, unwitting Foley or something?
Well, I suppose Liberals do have all the scientists.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:43 pmRogered Roger:
Gerry Studds’ 1973 boyfriend was 17. The age of consent in D.C. is 16.
Studds broke no laws. Studds’ boyfriend stood beside him at his press conference, after his 1983 censure.
The difference here is that Foley, by seducing a 16-year-old (at least) over the Internet, BROKE A LAW THAT HE HIMSELF WROTE, a lay that makes the Internet seduction of anyone under 18 a felony, regardless of local ages of consent.
Mark Foley made himself a felon, both in the definition and the commission of the crime. It is just too perfect an irony!
As NY Times Magazine ethics columnist Randy Cohen said yesterday on CNN, “If you can’t delight in the downfall of a hypicrite, you have no zest for life.”
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:44 pmTom Betz,
I am very happy to see this filth go. I will be happier if the repugs demand Hasert and the rest that knew about this leave. It would make my year if both parties got together on a bill that created a new moral law for our presidents and congress that made it a felony with a very stiff penalty (say 10-20 years) for affairs, sleeping with children, simply talking with children in a sexual way, or paying for sex.
These immoral people need to be ushered out of Washington. I really don’t care what is legal or illegal. It is all morally wrong. When there parties don’t mandate that these people resign, it sends a horrible message to today’s youth. It saddens me to constently hear about this crap. How is it that the repugs will let Hasert and the rest off the hook even though they endagered children? How is it that the Dems let Studs, Franks, and Clinton off the hook even though there immorality was completely inexcusable. the fact that the dems did nothing about it is worse then the act itself because it sends a horrible message to our children.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:51 pmRepublicans protect and coddle pedophiles.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:51 pmI was the insulation for Foley before I wasn’t -DH
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:52 pmIt wouldn’t have been so politically timed if Republicans didn’t sit on it for so long.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:54 pmIt puts me into an ethical quandary. Should we torture Mark Foley, or the kids who seduced him? Or maybe Bill Clinton, ‘cuz he was to blame for the whole thing? I’m sooooo confused.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:54 pmthe more i read here, the more confident i am that republicans will retain the house, senate and the white house. why? they are the lesser of two evils. best of the worst. i’m not happy about it, i’m just not deluded.
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:57 pmMake this felony a mandatory 10 year prison sentence.
Horror of horrors man, they should have to marry a camel, why would you want to put a women/man thru 10 years of sickness for a crime they did not commit.
No, no, no. The fact is folks we must build a compound for these predatory unethical pigs, and we must train them to walk on four feet again!
2 legs bad 4 legs better!
October 3rd, 2006 at 4:58 pm2 legs bad 4 legs better!
cap con
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:01 pmFormerly I was known as Michelin Man, now I am Insulation Man taaa da daaa!! -DH
Clinton’s affair, Foley’s sexual predator leanings. Both should be admonished. Oh yeah, Bill’s already was and he’ll always be linked to it. To use Condi’s words “Historical information” and “nothing new” when it comes to Slick willy.
Now let’s get into the latest news. Foley’s a creep and Republican’s knew about this pervert and did NOTHING. Thanks for the cannon fodder up until Nov. 7th. Whether you like it or not, how the far right has handled this will be added to the down fall of the right’s majority in both the house and senate.
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:03 pmi think what hastert and the republicans in general are doing in this case is projection, pure and simple. they don’t know how to get elected or run government without consulting the stained and worn to hell pages of their dirty playbook, so they automatically see everything else, everybody else’s behavior as coming from the same source.
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:06 pmI’ve said before and I’ll say it again, the Dem’s new slogan should be
Either you’re with us…or with the pedophiles
or
Make no distinction between the pedophiles, and those who harbor them.
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:07 pmI’ve said before and I’ll say it again, the Dem’s new slogan should be
Either you’re with us…or with the pedophiles
or
Make no distinction between the pedophiles, and those who harbor them.
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:07 pmguess you forgot about Delay, Abramoff, Mariannas Prostitution, Cunninham, Safavian, Rendition, Ken Lay Enron, Fema Brown, Scooter libby, Parson war profiteer, Rove Plame,Iraq WMD lies,perpetual war, mushroom clounds, Novaks book, Bremer billions missing in Iraq [cash],Yellowcake, Red ink, torture, Predator GOP, isulating predator, Opium Afghanistan, deficits, 2 billion a week for war, trillions of dollars in eventual debt, a war paid thru emergency expenditures, backloaded taxes [yr 2011], cronyism, Alphonso Jackson, Jeff Gannon shill, Rumsfelds screwups, Tenet screwups, Bush ignoring PDBs,,and more.
Yeh your right paul bushco is less evil.
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:09 pm“Their out to get me”….yeah right fat man. You’re going down for covering up for a pervert!!!
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:10 pmYou must keep me in office or the terrorists have won!
Oh God, no more! I can’t take all this laughing! I’m going to SPLIT A GUT!! ARGGHHH! (thump)
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:10 pmHellinabucket,
Oh I agree with you. The repugs should probably lose in November. It would serve them right. They failed to cut the budget, Iraq is a mess, and they don’t even have a moral compass anymore. How can true conservatives vote for Repugs anyways? Most are Repugs in name only. If you come to Washington and you increase the budget, sleep around, and don’t care about morals, your really just another Democrat.
So, your right. We need to get these fake Repugs out of office. Hopefully, in the next election they will actually nominate some true conservatives. People like Bush sicken me. How he calls himself a conservative is beyond me. He may not be part of the far left, but he is definetly left of center. Anyone who signs an increase to the federal budget every single year like he is, can’t be a true conservative.
So, I agree. Get them out of government already.
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:11 pmWe protected the pedophiles before we did not -GOP
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:11 pmSince 2003 we have protected the predators today we do not. –GOP
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:12 pmWhen Hastert talks he doesn’t spit at his interloqutor as much as he used to.
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:16 pmI never thought I would miss Tricky Dick -GOP
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:17 pmHay,……..T.P and all here ……12 of our soldiers have died in Iraq already this month and it’s only Oct. 3……….Still no post on the miserable bill’s that were shoved through the house and senate last week……This bloated pig is getting all the new’s coverage and is guilty by neglect..Demand he step down and all concerned…..What about the children these pedaphiles have distroyed….
To claim this is a left conspirecy is the usual crazy crap……No libral we know of was making Foly do this and no democrat swept the knoledge of it under the rug….Hay, what about Delay did he know or is he in the “in” crowd…..Why weren’t the police informed and why wasen’t an investigation immediately started when this happened…….Blessings
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:18 pmThe Pope should have appeared on Rush Limbaugh and made the same claim that criticizing them aids the terrorists. This smacks, by the way, of the same type of cover-up that the Catholic Church has now disavowed. It cost the Church millions of dollars and resulted in great shame. Hastert & Co. are as smarmy as the Church was in their cover-up. One, they need to go in shame. Two, a fund needs to be created for the interns affected by all this, carved out of Hastert’s personal fortune, or a lawyer needs to be appointed to charge Hastert with conspiracy and perjury, and to sue for injuries and damages. If those who perpetrated this, and helped to conceal it, are taken care of, the Republican Party can claim clean hands. Remember, this is not the rank and file, this is the Leadership of the Party.
If this is how they act, the mask is off. It’s all the fault of those foreigners, those terroists, those Democrats. I have had no responsibility. I love how uninventive these top Republicans are. Hastert has no culpability; his only job is to get more Republicans elected; get out of his way.
It is important to recognize that the Republicans who have lived up to Lord Acton’s maxim: “Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Hope the Democrats come into power again; if they remain uncorrupted for a short period of time, it will have balance the veniality of the existing Republican Administration.
Who cares? It’s not true and truth IS NOT IMPORTANT TO REPUBLICANS at this point in time. The media by and large aren’t journalists, or keepers of the “truth†flame; they by and large sell advertising and entertain; they have no discipline or sensitivity or even any reason to ask hard questions. Why, oh why, do people always seem to expect it? It’s playing the victim, and that seems to be the role they’ve assigned for yourselves. When they get over it, and strike back to reclaim the electorate by asking the hard questions and not dumbing down statements like “Bush lied todayâ€, or “Bush made wildly conflicting statements today†or “Bush didn’t answer the question he was asked.†When this begins to happen, when influential people say, Stop the madness, they won’t be victims any more. So if you help Republicans in any way, by not voting or by not persuading your friends and family to vote, by not contributing to the Democrats, you’ll be helping to promote a draft, among other things too stupid to mention. So make sure the Democrats win this time around, and don’t jawbone about it or prevaricate or think about how inept or stupid they are, just vote for them. Right now the Democrats are the only force that will balance off the Republican’s march to a totalitarian state; they may become corrupt but it’ll take some time for that to happen.
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:20 pmWhen will Hastret, Boehner, and Shimkus realize that they have no one to blame but themselves for this mess? So much for accountability.
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:22 pmhttp://blogs.salon.com/ 0002786/ images/ 2004/ 12/ 02/ dennis_hastert_jabbathehutt.jpg
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:23 pmMike Rogers:
…………..
What did who know and when?
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:24 pm#139. I agree. Iraq should still be center stage. Lack of planning and foresight, Construction debacles, missed opportunities to win over the Iraqis and our soldiers are dying because of pigheaded ignorance.
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:24 pmIn the esteemed words of the GOP in past years:
CONCEDE! CONCEDE! CONCEDE!!!
Oh, and BTW - make no mistake - this broke via ABC:
Do you think ABC is trying to make amends for their recent five hour, 40 million dollar 9/11 disaster? Perhaps.
I just think it’s funny that the GOP is now attacking the very network they were praising for a fair and balanced reporting of the so called “factsâ€.
Hassert is gone…and he knows it. He’s just playing the long game of setting himself up for life after Congress by blaming a straw man. What a boob.
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:28 pmSadly,
I am already right. The Dems seem to be using this as a political issue which proves they are only in it for power. The Repugs seem to be backing Hasert already and I can see they won’t demand he or anyone else resign. Proves the Repugs are only in it for power as well.
So, both parties are dirty and only care about power. Man this country sucks right now. It is time for at least 1 new party, probably 2. We need some parties that actually care about the people and not simply gaining power.
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:28 pmhttp://www.chickenhawkcards.com/6-diamonds.jpg
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:30 pmBlah blah Gerry Studds (or Jerry Stubbs or whatever people are misreading from the smeared talking-points fax)…
Dan Crane (R-IN, censured with Studds for sexing 17-year-old page). Buz Lukens (R-OH, convicted of paying 16-year-old for sex, accused but not charged with having sex with same girl 3 years earlier; finally bounced from Congress after he groped a House employee).
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:30 pmSome get Mr. Hastert a Tin Foil hat for his new conspiracy theory.
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:31 pm#67 Roger Roger:
…. you will even put HIllary Clinton up for President even though she didn’t leave her Husband the moment she found out about his affair.
Ummm, so that’s why Newt is on his fourth wife? They keep finding out about his affairs? How about His Emanence Rush Limbaugh? Same story?
Tell me how that solution is the one that shows “family values” … I mean really.
Cheers,
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:33 pmbwahaha!!
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:35 pmThis may be a naive question but - how exactly are the Dems responsible for Mr. Folely acting as he did (does?)?
Make no bloody mistake - if the roles were reversed, what do you think would happen? The GOP would take the high road and let the Dems police this us themselves?
Give me a break. Newsflash to all of you who are tired of politics intruding into matters such as this: Foley is a politician. Pages are part of Congress. Hassert was warned. Hassert is a politician. It’s an election year.
Making it political? Hate to break it to you dear fools, but it was political all by itself. The Dems could engineer this any better. And they didn’t have a thing to do with all this happening. Get used to it.
Now…tell me, am I being naive?
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:36 pmRoger_Roger
You are so mixed up and fraudulent in your “arguments” as to be almost comical. First, Studds had consensual sex with a LEGAL adult. In fact that adult stood with Studds in press conferences and rightly said, this is none of the publics business since it was consensual sex between adults. Barney Franks did not know of the prostitution his roommate was engaging in, nor did he ever pay a prostitute for sex and when it came out he promptly severed all ties with the person. And finally, Clinton had consensual oral sex with an ADULT.
That you cannot grasp the substantive difference between ADULTS having CONSENSUAL SEX and a Congressmen engaging in predatory sexual harassment of MINORS is just jaw-dropping. If you psycho-freaks of the Fright-Wingâ„¢ cannot tell the difference between consensual sex and sexually preying on minors because you have blinded ourself with stupid brainwashed GOP talking points for years that you loose all moral, ethical, legal and rational compass, you really really need to stop drinking your brand of kool-aid. That you show such lack of sound judgement to not be able to distinguish the difference between consenting ADUTLS having sex with someone preying on minors it begs the question if you yourself have the ability to make sound judgement around minors or other adults even.
Stop it.
Just stop it.
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:37 pmRoger-Roger, may I suggest, instead of 2 new parties how about we just kick all the bad out on both sides and replace with new people of integrety…Also we need to cut the term limits to 2….The longer these people are in the more corrupt they seem to get. Note I said both parties…..One last big issue is illiminating all the lobbiest and big money…….Blessings
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:38 pmDoubleRoger: “Hilary didn’t forgive Bill. We all know there marriage is one of political convenience at this point and that is immoral.”
Roger, you’re like a highschool girl gossiping about the king and queen of the prom. Call the tabloids immediately. They’re looking for people who can read the minds of Bill and Hillary Clinton.
But, since you’re into gossip, maybe it’s time to revisit the strange story of the male prostitute under an assumed name who made strange, unexplained night-time visits to the Whitehouse.
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:41 pmget off your moral pedastel pedestrian, your party has fallen from grace
October 3rd, 2006 at 5:44 pm#124 paul
the more i read here, the more confident i am that republicans will retain the house, senate and the white house. why? they are the lesser of two evils. best of the worst. i’m not happy about it, i’m just not deluded.
And in the Bizarro World, that statement would make perfect sense.
“Paul say pedophilia go