Comments on: Tony Perkins: ‘Tolerance And Diversity’ Are To Blame For ‘Congressmen Chasing 16-Year-Olds’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:13:54 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Mexico501 » Blog Archive » ‘Tolerance & Diversity’ Are To Blame For ‘Congressmen Chasing 16-Year-Olds’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-3/#comment-1036706 Mexico501 » Blog Archive » ‘Tolerance & Diversity’ Are To Blame For ‘Congressmen Chasing 16-Year-Olds’ Fri, 27 Oct 2006 05:44:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-1036706 [...] Page Summary: Would you send your child to Washington to be a page. We need to go to the source of the problem. Were they fearful of acting because they would be seen as homophobic or gay bashing. did this person support the laws Foley worked so hard to get passed.read more | digg story [...] [...] Page Summary: Would you send your child to Washington to be a page. We need to go to the source of the problem. Were they fearful of acting because they would be seen as homophobic or gay bashing. did this person support the laws Foley worked so hard to get passed.read more | digg story [...]

]]> By: Deep Something » Blog Archive » Dobson Says More Gay Congressmen to be Outed http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-3/#comment-1003558 Deep Something » Blog Archive » Dobson Says More Gay Congressmen to be Outed Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:09:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-1003558 [...] So let’s get this straight: Dobson wants his followers, the “values voters,” to not be deterred by news of closeted homosexuality in the GOP. Isn’t opposing homosexuality a core issue that defines them as “values voters?” Sounds like a mixed signal to us. Especially when the GOP leadership are apparently drunk on the liberal Molotov cocktail known as “Tolerance And Diversity” and are guilty of “shielding” GOP Congressman from being outed. [...] [...] So let’s get this straight: Dobson wants his followers, the “values voters,” to not be deterred by news of closeted homosexuality in the GOP. Isn’t opposing homosexuality a core issue that defines them as “values voters?” Sounds like a mixed signal to us. Especially when the GOP leadership are apparently drunk on the liberal Molotov cocktail known as “Tolerance And Diversity” and are guilty of “shielding” GOP Congressman from being outed. [...]

]]> By: Jonathan Wish http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-3/#comment-947500 Jonathan Wish Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:02:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-947500 It is amazing the hypocrisy of the left. This has happened before, with DEMOCRATS. The difference when it happens with a Republican is that a Republican is expected to resign when he does something immoral. The Democrats ALWAYS blame someone else. It happened with the Clintons, it happened with Cynthia McKinney, and it happened when Democratic congressmen were caught actually having sex with pages, not just talking about it. This guy is just taking a page, no pun intended, out of the Democratic playbook of blaming someone else for his sins. It certainly isn't right, and I think Republicans need to end the practice immediately. They need to make it clear that the difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans will answer for what they do. Also, Hastert should be kicked out of office for defending every corrupt politician, such as William Jefferson. It is amazing the hypocrisy of the left. This has happened before, with DEMOCRATS. The difference when it happens with a Republican is that a Republican is expected to resign when he does something immoral. The Democrats ALWAYS blame someone else. It happened with the Clintons, it happened with Cynthia McKinney, and it happened when Democratic congressmen were caught actually having sex with pages, not just talking about it. This guy is just taking a page, no pun intended, out of the Democratic playbook of blaming someone else for his sins. It certainly isn’t right, and I think Republicans need to end the practice immediately. They need to make it clear that the difference between Republicans and Democrats is that Republicans will answer for what they do. Also, Hastert should be kicked out of office for defending every corrupt politician, such as William Jefferson.

]]> By: The Michigan Independent » Blog Archive » Mark Foley: the homophobic homosexual http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-3/#comment-947266 The Michigan Independent » Blog Archive » Mark Foley: the homophobic homosexual Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:08:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-947266 [...] But the dirty deeds themselves aren’t really the most interesting part. The right’s reaction to the whole mess is simply astounding. The logical move here would be to disown Foley and try to focus on the election. Instead, nutcases like Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council appear on CNN and blame our culture of “tolerance and diversity”. TONY PERKINS: There’s no defense of this behavior. It’s outrageous. It’s shocking. But it shouldn’t be totally surprising. When we told up tolerance and diversity as the guideposts for public life, this is what you end up getting. You get congressmen chasing 16-year-olds down the halls of Congress. It’s a shame. It’s a tragedy and it does need to be addressed. But not just the symptoms here. We need to go to the source of the problem. And if the leadership was negligent, it should be dealt with and should be dealt with in the most severe way possible. But what prevented the leadership from acting? Were they fearful of acting because they would be seen as homophobic or gay bashing? [...] [...] But the dirty deeds themselves aren’t really the most interesting part. The right’s reaction to the whole mess is simply astounding. The logical move here would be to disown Foley and try to focus on the election. Instead, nutcases like Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council appear on CNN and blame our culture of “tolerance and diversity”. TONY PERKINS: There’s no defense of this behavior. It’s outrageous. It’s shocking. But it shouldn’t be totally surprising. When we told up tolerance and diversity as the guideposts for public life, this is what you end up getting. You get congressmen chasing 16-year-olds down the halls of Congress. It’s a shame. It’s a tragedy and it does need to be addressed. But not just the symptoms here. We need to go to the source of the problem. And if the leadership was negligent, it should be dealt with and should be dealt with in the most severe way possible. But what prevented the leadership from acting? Were they fearful of acting because they would be seen as homophobic or gay bashing? [...]

]]> By: Cindy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-3/#comment-945075 Cindy Thu, 05 Oct 2006 05:26:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-945075 Lot of talk, validating this one, persecuiting that one... but so far the only real "do something about it" speak that I have seen is the comment on "limited term"... Would like to know more about how to get that idea in motion... We have to regain our control over this monster machine... we have to start somewhere pontificate? or eradicate? Lot of talk, validating this one, persecuiting that one… but so far the only real “do something about it” speak that I have seen is the comment on “limited term”… Would like to know more about how to get that idea in motion… We have to regain our control over this monster machine… we have to start somewhere

pontificate? or eradicate?

]]> By: Make Them Accountable / But some of the non-religious … http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-3/#comment-943611 Make Them Accountable / But some of the non-religious … Wed, 04 Oct 2006 23:56:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-943611 [...] Tony Perkins: ‘Tolerance And Diversity’ Are To Blame For ‘Congressmen Chasing 16-Year-Olds’ [...] [...] Tony Perkins: ‘Tolerance And Diversity’ Are To Blame For ‘Congressmen Chasing 16-Year-Olds’ [...]

]]> By: Josh+P. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-3/#comment-938427 Josh+P. Wed, 04 Oct 2006 04:49:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-938427 There's nothing Jesus would appreciate more than rejecting tolerance and diversity. What a joke. These people aren't Christians. www.getsomejosh.com - check me out There’s nothing Jesus would appreciate more than rejecting tolerance and diversity. What a joke. These people aren’t Christians.

http://www.getsomejosh.com – check me out

]]> By: circusfifthfloor http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-3/#comment-937617 circusfifthfloor Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:31:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-937617 Tony Perkins=Norman Bates !!!!! PSYCHO. Where is Jim Jones when you need him? Can't we have a more formidable group of adversaries than this? Damn, it sure would be more sporting, huh? The trolls are down to only a few now and are using multiple handles too, because there rants are so alike. Hope the Dems don't screw it up when they take the gavel, because there's nothing left. What a bloody mess.... Tony Perkins=Norman Bates !!!!! PSYCHO. Where is Jim Jones when you need him? Can’t we have a more formidable group of adversaries than this? Damn, it sure would be more sporting, huh? The trolls are down to only a few now and are using multiple handles too, because there rants are so alike. Hope the Dems don’t screw it up when they take the gavel, because there’s nothing left. What a bloody mess….

]]> By: disgusted http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-3/#comment-937546 disgusted Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:16:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-937546 Does it just seem to be getting worse daily? Once again, the Republicans, aka the boys who couldn't get laid in high school, are up to the high school antics. Poor victims did not want to be called homophobic. Boo hoo... They are spineless cowards with no soul. Why can't we get these slippery venomous bastards out of power? Does it just seem to be getting worse daily? Once again, the Republicans, aka the boys who couldn’t get laid in high school, are up to the high school antics. Poor victims did not want to be called homophobic. Boo hoo… They are spineless cowards with no soul. Why can’t we get these slippery venomous bastards out of power?

]]> By: Uncle_Ho http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-3/#comment-937409 Uncle_Ho Tue, 03 Oct 2006 22:46:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-937409 Hey Perkins, whatever happened to republican mantras of personal responsibilty. Hey Perkins, whatever happened to republican mantras of personal responsibilty.

]]> By: Karim http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-3/#comment-937035 Karim Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:29:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-937035 Another douchebag of the so called "christian right". He's a joke. Another douchebag of the so called “christian right”. He’s a joke.

]]> By: Parallelism http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-3/#comment-937019 Parallelism Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:28:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-937019 John Stewart made the apt comparison between the Catholic Church and Congress on the Daily Show. Power corrupts, and repression leads to perversion. I find it sickly ironic that Foley was on the committee for protecting children. That's the M.O. of all perverts with an interest in underage children; get into a position of power and trust over your victims. Given how many times we've seen these two facts play out, I wonder what Mr. Perkins has to hide? He's both a "religious" leader (false prophet?) AND a politician. Special. There was a survey conducted by the Evangelical Association itself that found that 20% of its female and 50% of its male members were addicted to porn. That doesn't even include those "non-addicted" consumers. Hypocrites! This has everything to do with power and nothing to do with "morality". John Stewart made the apt comparison between the Catholic Church and Congress on the Daily Show. Power corrupts, and repression leads to perversion. I find it sickly ironic that Foley was on the committee for protecting children. That’s the M.O. of all perverts with an interest in underage children; get into a position of power and trust over your victims. Given how many times we’ve seen these two facts play out, I wonder what Mr. Perkins has to hide? He’s both a “religious” leader (false prophet?) AND a politician. Special.

There was a survey conducted by the Evangelical Association itself that found that 20% of its female and 50% of its male members were addicted to porn. That doesn’t even include those “non-addicted” consumers. Hypocrites! This has everything to do with power and nothing to do with “morality”.

]]> By: DOYOUSEE http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-3/#comment-936968 DOYOUSEE Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:18:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-936968 ALL these criminals{politicians} are as guilty as sin and should be in prison if not executed for their crimes against the citizens of america and the world.... F*cking Nuclear NEO NAZIS run america and will do absolutely anything to keep and build power over the fools that put up with this obscenely vile form of corruption...KARMA will have the last word as always even when they fix the next elections as the last who knows how many were fixed. Hopefully" THE OBSCENE MACHINE EATS ITSELF "....There is no end in sight to the ever increasing corruption of america,business as usual.Way to go USA. PARIAH AMERICA. ALL these criminals{politicians} are as guilty as sin and should be in prison if not executed for their crimes against the citizens of america and the world….
F*cking Nuclear NEO NAZIS run america and will do absolutely anything to keep and build power over the fools that put up with this obscenely vile form of corruption…KARMA will have the last word as always even when they fix the next elections as the last who knows how many were fixed.
Hopefully” THE OBSCENE MACHINE EATS ITSELF “….There is no end in sight to the ever increasing corruption of america,business as usual.Way to go USA.
PARIAH AMERICA.

]]> By: Xbot http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-3/#comment-936599 Xbot Tue, 03 Oct 2006 20:16:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-936599 Holy shit. Guys, is this ringing any McArthy bells? We should have a McArthy whistle, and in any blog posts that seem to pull stuff directly out of McCarthy's brain, it will have like a picture of Goerge Bush on it or something. We'd be overwhelmed, though. Remember, boys and girls: This is what they said in the '50s. It was 'Tolerance and Diversity' that made America bad. Remember? Are we going to let the Republicans shoot us back 50 years? Segregation, violence against protestors, clear and direct violation of hte very core of our constitution, all come back to the statement that Perkins has reminded us of. Don't be fooled. Otherwise, it will be dissentors that are to blame for Congressmen chasing 16-year-olds, it'll be black people to blame (which is what Mr. Perkins is saying, hm?) for congressmen molesting children. Who's next? Holy shit.

Guys, is this ringing any McArthy bells? We should have a McArthy whistle, and in any blog posts that seem to pull stuff directly out of McCarthy’s brain, it will have like a picture of Goerge Bush on it or something. We’d be overwhelmed, though.

Remember, boys and girls: This is what they said in the ’50s. It was ‘Tolerance and Diversity’ that made America bad. Remember? Are we going to let the Republicans shoot us back 50 years? Segregation, violence against protestors, clear and direct violation of hte very core of our constitution, all come back to the statement that Perkins has reminded us of. Don’t be fooled. Otherwise, it will be dissentors that are to blame for Congressmen chasing 16-year-olds, it’ll be black people to blame (which is what Mr. Perkins is saying, hm?) for congressmen molesting children. Who’s next?

]]> By: Sebastian http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-3/#comment-936460 Sebastian Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:56:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-936460 The ultimate Catch 22: Tolerance and diversity causes republicans to molest children???? We need an internet neighborhood watch for republicans.... ie: I'm not sure if he's a child molester or he's against tolerance/diversity, but either way keep him outta my back yard! The ultimate Catch 22: Tolerance and diversity causes republicans to molest children????

We need an internet neighborhood watch for republicans…. ie: I’m not sure if he’s a child molester or he’s against tolerance/diversity, but either way keep him outta my back yard!

]]> By: Armando+Gomez http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-3/#comment-936138 Armando+Gomez Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:14:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-936138 What do you think Jim (Focus on the Family) Dobson’s position is with this incident? Aside with silence Dobson would say: screw the Democrats and exonerate Foley’s Sodom and Gomorrah delights on young boys. What do you think Jim (Focus on the Family) Dobson’s position is with this incident? Aside with silence Dobson would say: screw the Democrats and exonerate Foley’s Sodom and Gomorrah delights on young boys.

]]> By: Steve http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-2/#comment-936099 Steve Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:08:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-936099 But not just the symptoms here. We need to go to the source of the problem. <em> <strong>With Tony Perkins logic one could say:</strong> Planes crashing into the twin towers were only a symptom. The source of theproblem is that we as a country tolerated military bases in Suadi Arabia. We tolerated the US interference with other countires, and the US bias towards Isreal. He would blame our society and its policies for Al Quada's violent acts.</em> But not just the symptoms here. We need to go to the source of the problem.

With Tony Perkins logic one could say:
Planes crashing into the twin towers were only a symptom. The source of theproblem is that we as a country tolerated military bases in Suadi Arabia. We tolerated the US interference with other countires, and the US bias towards Isreal. He would blame our society and its policies for Al Quada’s violent acts.

]]> By: pbg http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-2/#comment-936025 pbg Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:52:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-936025 HICA: The Republicans are the Steely Eyed Rocket Men of the Global War On Terror, fearless and invincible--but apparently can do nothing against a documentary filmmaker (who is fat), some actors and a Broadway singer and some guys blogging in their underwear! And now, the Republicans are fearless O'reilly- like Culture Warriors *hack*cough* (sorry, something caught in my throat) who will fight Godless Liberalism and demolish the Gay Agenda--but are so intimidated by being thought of as un-PC that they just couldn't do anything about that predatory congressman! And even better, there's Tony Perkins: "Society's to blame!" Jesus H-for-haploid Christ, will you guys listen to yourselves? HICA:
The Republicans are the Steely Eyed Rocket Men of the Global War On Terror, fearless and invincible–but apparently can do nothing against a documentary filmmaker (who is fat), some actors and a Broadway singer and some guys blogging in their underwear!

And now, the Republicans are fearless O’reilly- like Culture Warriors *hack*cough* (sorry, something caught in my throat) who will fight Godless Liberalism and demolish the Gay Agenda–but are so intimidated by being thought of as un-PC that they just couldn’t do anything about that predatory congressman!

And even better, there’s Tony Perkins: “Society’s to blame!”

Jesus H-for-haploid Christ, will you guys listen to yourselves?

]]> By: Mr. Evil http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-2/#comment-935973 Mr. Evil Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:41:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-935973 Citizen Dad (obviously in need of some Lithium) sounds like just another Kool Aid drinker. The Dems are trying to get you killed?! WTF? You need to visit a doctor real soon. If you really are a dad I feel sorry for your children because they are going to become ultra-paranoid right wingnut wackos just like you and the rest of the fear-mongering, boogeyman hunting, mental deficients you praise as moral crusaders. They just want whatever they can take from you and today it seems that your children are tops on the list. Citizen Dad (obviously in need of some Lithium) sounds like just another Kool Aid drinker. The Dems are trying to get you killed?! WTF? You need to visit a doctor real soon.

If you really are a dad I feel sorry for your children because they are going to become ultra-paranoid right wingnut wackos just like you and the rest of the fear-mongering, boogeyman hunting, mental deficients you praise as moral crusaders. They just want whatever they can take from you and today it seems that your children are tops on the list.

]]> By: whiteyfresh http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/comment-page-2/#comment-935952 whiteyfresh Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:38:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/perkins-ethics-foley/#comment-935952 Kirk Fordham, the Chief of Staff for the current NRCC Chair, a key GOP House leadership position, tried on behalf of Foley — after he knew of the IMs — to block the public from learning about the IMs by offering ABC an exclusive interview with Foley in exchange for ABC's agreement to conceal those messages. That means that the top aide to one of the Republican House leaders, as recently as last Friday, tried to suppress the most incriminating and important facts regarding this scandal. Isn't that the very definition of "cover-up"? (pulled from crooksandliars.com) Kirk Fordham, the Chief of Staff for the current NRCC Chair, a key GOP House leadership position, tried on behalf of Foley — after he knew of the IMs — to block the public from learning about the IMs by offering ABC an exclusive interview with Foley in exchange for ABC’s agreement to conceal those messages.

That means that the top aide to one of the Republican House leaders, as recently as last Friday, tried to suppress the most incriminating and important facts regarding this scandal. Isn’t that the very definition of “cover-up”?
(pulled from crooksandliars.com)

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