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	<title>Comments on: Intel Officials: Rice&#8217;s July 2001 Briefing Described Urgent Threat, &#8216;10 On a Scale of 1 to 10&#8242;</title>
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		<title>By: iwilldieformyconstitution_beforeiwilldieformyleaders</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-1319862</link>
		<dc:creator>iwilldieformyconstitution_beforeiwilldieformyleaders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2006 06:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with 156.  Unfortunately, the ideals of our Founding Fathers have been lost.  They have been lost to privateers.  America as we now know it needs to be preserved to what our Founding Fathers intended.  &quot;America&quot; must become a philosophy, rather than a &quot;land&quot;.  The only way to preserve the &quot;American Constitution and Bill of Rights&quot; as we know it today, is to promote it worldwide as it was intended for the people of The United States of America, but for a greater good - the greater good of the world.

The idea of &quot;America&quot; was once revered, admired and held in the ultimate esteem in the eyes of peoples throughout the world.  The term America was once synonymous with term Dream in the eyes of most.  It was considered a &quot;big-brother&quot; to many, and to the rest it was at least a place of great founders and visions.

Sadly, our America has become a term of deceit, distrust, corruption, abuse and greed.

In this age of instantaneous global communication, a new Worldwide Constitution must emerge (unbeholden to the existing pacts/treatises/deals as currently exist in the UN, etc).  Within a few decades the peoples of the world shall balance themselves among the worldwide lands - globalization is inevitable.

As such, my proposal to the world is this:

The American Dream must continue to exist - it must exist even if it is only in spirit rather than territory.  It must exist, even if it has to be given a new name and a new country.  Long after we are all gone, the dreams of our Founding Fathers must live on...

Life, Liberty and the Persuit of Happiness for all; in every form, for the greater good and never for the good of the greatest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with 156.  Unfortunately, the ideals of our Founding Fathers have been lost.  They have been lost to privateers.  America as we now know it needs to be preserved to what our Founding Fathers intended.  &#8220;America&#8221; must become a philosophy, rather than a &#8220;land&#8221;.  The only way to preserve the &#8220;American Constitution and Bill of Rights&#8221; as we know it today, is to promote it worldwide as it was intended for the people of The United States of America, but for a greater good &#8211; the greater good of the world.</p>
<p>The idea of &#8220;America&#8221; was once revered, admired and held in the ultimate esteem in the eyes of peoples throughout the world.  The term America was once synonymous with term Dream in the eyes of most.  It was considered a &#8220;big-brother&#8221; to many, and to the rest it was at least a place of great founders and visions.</p>
<p>Sadly, our America has become a term of deceit, distrust, corruption, abuse and greed.</p>
<p>In this age of instantaneous global communication, a new Worldwide Constitution must emerge (unbeholden to the existing pacts/treatises/deals as currently exist in the UN, etc).  Within a few decades the peoples of the world shall balance themselves among the worldwide lands &#8211; globalization is inevitable.</p>
<p>As such, my proposal to the world is this:</p>
<p>The American Dream must continue to exist &#8211; it must exist even if it is only in spirit rather than territory.  It must exist, even if it has to be given a new name and a new country.  Long after we are all gone, the dreams of our Founding Fathers must live on&#8230;</p>
<p>Life, Liberty and the Persuit of Happiness for all; in every form, for the greater good and never for the good of the greatest.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1319862', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mexico501 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Intel Officials: Rice&#8217;s July &#8216;01 Briefing Was A &#34;10 On a Scale of 1 to 10&#34;</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-1036770</link>
		<dc:creator>Mexico501 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Intel Officials: Rice&#8217;s July &#8216;01 Briefing Was A &#34;10 On a Scale of 1 to 10&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Page Summary: I would suggest a knowledgable attorney on the inner working of government be the lead attorney. This bunch thinks that the American People such as the idiots who elected them in a fruadulent election with Supreme Court complicity are too stupid to see what they are doing. I seem to remember that during the Clinton years the media and the left loved, loved to destroy the credibility of anonymous sources and anyone that spoke against Clinton. I hope you use the same measuring stick that you use to judge Bush and his administration.read more&#160;&#124;&#160;digg story [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Page Summary: I would suggest a knowledgable attorney on the inner working of government be the lead attorney. This bunch thinks that the American People such as the idiots who elected them in a fruadulent election with Supreme Court complicity are too stupid to see what they are doing. I seem to remember that during the Clinton years the media and the left loved, loved to destroy the credibility of anonymous sources and anyone that spoke against Clinton. I hope you use the same measuring stick that you use to judge Bush and his administration.read more&nbsp;|&nbsp;digg story [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1036770', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: yangho</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-961752</link>
		<dc:creator>yangho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 07:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sick about Repbulic claim Bill Cliton about 9/11. Bush are president of US in that day. At least Bill did everything to prevent 9/11 happen in his days, that&#039;s it. And he was not Bush&#039;s BABYSISTER RIGHT!! He and his officers warned about BinLaden for Bush THAT&#039;S ENOUGH!! YOU ARE THE BOSS NOW, so take it seriously, continue hunt THAT BASTARD, prevent him attack again!!! But BUSH/CODI CONCERN ONLY SADAM AND OIL. THAT IS THE REASON THEY DIDN&#039;T CARE ABOUT WARNING FROM CIA. THAT IS THE REASON 9/11 HAPPEN!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sick about Repbulic claim Bill Cliton about 9/11. Bush are president of US in that day. At least Bill did everything to prevent 9/11 happen in his days, that&#8217;s it. And he was not Bush&#8217;s BABYSISTER RIGHT!! He and his officers warned about BinLaden for Bush THAT&#8217;S ENOUGH!! YOU ARE THE BOSS NOW, so take it seriously, continue hunt THAT BASTARD, prevent him attack again!!! But BUSH/CODI CONCERN ONLY SADAM AND OIL. THAT IS THE REASON THEY DIDN&#8217;T CARE ABOUT WARNING FROM CIA. THAT IS THE REASON 9/11 HAPPEN!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=961752', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tom+baker</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-948428</link>
		<dc:creator>tom+baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10 on a scale of 10 - is there anyone who doesn&#039;t understand that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10 on a scale of 10 &#8211; is there anyone who doesn&#8217;t understand that?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=948428', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tom+baker</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-948418</link>
		<dc:creator>tom+baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the defense to this that goes &quot;well, no one told them exaclt when where and how the attacks would happen&quot; - it&#039;s ambiguous when they hear it, but when they state something vague and ambiguous, it&#039;s to be take as having a perfectly clear meaning...Bullshit, MA, bullshit liberalsarefakes (wtf is that supposed to mean anyway?)  would any of these trolls be able to get anything started without the lame repetition of labels that really don&#039;t mean dick in the first place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the defense to this that goes &#8220;well, no one told them exaclt when where and how the attacks would happen&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s ambiguous when they hear it, but when they state something vague and ambiguous, it&#8217;s to be take as having a perfectly clear meaning&#8230;Bullshit, MA, bullshit liberalsarefakes (wtf is that supposed to mean anyway?)  would any of these trolls be able to get anything started without the lame repetition of labels that really don&#8217;t mean dick in the first place?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=948418', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Hjorthen uttaler seg om ting han ikke har greie pÃ¥ &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tenet informerte Hastert om viserguttskandalen i 2001</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-945781</link>
		<dc:creator>Hjorthen uttaler seg om ting han ikke har greie pÃ¥ &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tenet informerte Hastert om viserguttskandalen i 2001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 08:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Condoleeeza Rice husker absolutt ingenting om noe slikt mÃ¸te [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Condoleeeza Rice husker absolutt ingenting om noe slikt mÃ¸te [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=945781', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: its about time&#187; Blog Archive &#187; No free man shall be taken&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-939191</link>
		<dc:creator>its about time&#187; Blog Archive &#187; No free man shall be taken&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 08:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Think Progress Â» Intel Officials: Riceâ€™s July 2001 Briefing Described Urgent Threat, â€˜10 On a Scale of 1 to 10â€² [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Think Progress Â» Intel Officials: Riceâ€™s July 2001 Briefing Described Urgent Threat, â€˜10 On a Scale of 1 to 10â€² [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=939191', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Braffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Braffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 01:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So maybe now is the time for this anti-Bush anti-war political ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3A91svNB8c</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So maybe now is the time for this anti-Bush anti-war political ad:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3A91svNB8c" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3A91svNB8c</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=937997', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: TerrytheTurtle</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-936354</link>
		<dc:creator>TerrytheTurtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#170 - FOIA - you can do it, dr - you know it makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#170 &#8211; FOIA &#8211; you can do it, dr &#8211; you know it makes sense.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=936354', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fallen</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-936236</link>
		<dc:creator>Fallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I want to know is *which is it*?

First Kinda-Lies-A-Lot says she doesn&#039;t think the meeting happened; then she says it happened but it was &quot;unremarkable&quot;; *then* her spokesman comes out and says that she allegedly took the remarkable step of telling Tenet to make the same presentation to the FBI/Asshat (Ashcroft).  The administration usually does a better job of obfuscation.  Why she didn&#039;t take a little time to come up with *one* story, who knows.  

By the by, could those of you who post in all lower-case do the other readers a favor (if you expect your posts to be digested) and try using proper format?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I want to know is *which is it*?</p>
<p>First Kinda-Lies-A-Lot says she doesn&#8217;t think the meeting happened; then she says it happened but it was &#8220;unremarkable&#8221;; *then* her spokesman comes out and says that she allegedly took the remarkable step of telling Tenet to make the same presentation to the FBI/Asshat (Ashcroft).  The administration usually does a better job of obfuscation.  Why she didn&#8217;t take a little time to come up with *one* story, who knows.  </p>
<p>By the by, could those of you who post in all lower-case do the other readers a favor (if you expect your posts to be digested) and try using proper format?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=936236', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fallen</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-936110</link>
		<dc:creator>Fallen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And you believe that Clinton is doing what he is doing without political purpose?&quot;

Did someone actually say that (I say who cares why) or this query more rhetorical nonsense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And you believe that Clinton is doing what he is doing without political purpose?&#8221;</p>
<p>Did someone actually say that (I say who cares why) or this query more rhetorical nonsense?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=936110', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-936083</link>
		<dc:creator>bs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>redrum

i believe the majority of us know where the money goes.  have you ever watched the &#039;moneychangers&#039;?  if not do so.  it will enlighten every citizen.  what i think is that the american public is like to hell with it, cuz it can&#039;t be stopped.  and i am believing it may not be.  but i do my part.  i buy my gas from a rinkey dink.  and don&#039;t drive unless i need to.  i don&#039;t drive around with those &#039;ribbons&#039; flagged all over my car.  do you?  if so you are supporting china, not the troops.  i don&#039;t buy crap i don&#039;t need.  i believe if anyone wants to stop the insanity you need to go to the head of the octopus and that is the rothchilds(zionists). and then work to chop off all of his tentacles.  the majority don&#039;t even know the rothchilds and everyone should.  they need to be exposed and have talked recently of there outing and not liking it.  this will expose the rockefellers, duponts, remington, murdochs, morgans. until then the &#039;mission accomplished&#039; sign rings true in that sense.  i believe bush knows what the sign was truly meaning.</description>
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<p>i believe the majority of us know where the money goes.  have you ever watched the &#8216;moneychangers&#8217;?  if not do so.  it will enlighten every citizen.  what i think is that the american public is like to hell with it, cuz it can&#8217;t be stopped.  and i am believing it may not be.  but i do my part.  i buy my gas from a rinkey dink.  and don&#8217;t drive unless i need to.  i don&#8217;t drive around with those &#8216;ribbons&#8217; flagged all over my car.  do you?  if so you are supporting china, not the troops.  i don&#8217;t buy crap i don&#8217;t need.  i believe if anyone wants to stop the insanity you need to go to the head of the octopus and that is the rothchilds(zionists). and then work to chop off all of his tentacles.  the majority don&#8217;t even know the rothchilds and everyone should.  they need to be exposed and have talked recently of there outing and not liking it.  this will expose the rockefellers, duponts, remington, murdochs, morgans. until then the &#8216;mission accomplished&#8217; sign rings true in that sense.  i believe bush knows what the sign was truly meaning.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=936083', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dr</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-936041</link>
		<dc:creator>dr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. do they still &lt;em&gt;have&lt;/em&gt; that powerpoint presentation? because THAT would be the kicker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. do they still <em>have</em> that powerpoint presentation? because THAT would be the kicker.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=936041', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Democratic &#38; Anti-Republican topics via DemocratGiftShop.com Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Intel Officials: Rice&#8217;s July &#8216;01 Briefing Was A &#8220;10 On a Scale of 1 to 10&#8243;</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-935966</link>
		<dc:creator>Democratic &#38; Anti-Republican topics via DemocratGiftShop.com Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Intel Officials: Rice&#8217;s July &#8216;01 Briefing Was A &#8220;10 On a Scale of 1 to 10&#8243;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rice claims the briefing on al Qaeda&#8217;s plans to strike US interests was relatively unremarkable. The intelligence officials who prepared the briefing disagree.read more&#160;&#124;&#160;digg story [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rice claims the briefing on al Qaeda&#8217;s plans to strike US interests was relatively unremarkable. The intelligence officials who prepared the briefing disagree.read more&nbsp;|&nbsp;digg story [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=935966', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bluedog49</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-935931</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluedog49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stoneaxe: &quot;My problem is that you all believe that only you hold the truth.&quot;

You know, there is a difference between facts and opinions. There is also a difference between facts and beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stoneaxe: &#8220;My problem is that you all believe that only you hold the truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>You know, there is a difference between facts and opinions. There is also a difference between facts and beliefs.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=935931', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bluedog49</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluedog49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stoneaxe: &quot;If you have even one rational bone in your body you have to understand that he was one lucky bastard. The economy being in the shape it was during his tenure was pure coincidence. Just part of the typical cycle.&quot;

Clinton is a Rhodes Scholar with a PhD in economics. He raised the top marginal rates on our wealthiest citizens about 3%. Republicans said this would cause a depression or a steep recession and none of them voted for this tax policy. This tax change and some targeted tax reductions for working class people created the longest peacetime expansion of the economy in history. It turned the deficit handed over to him by Bush 41 into a surplus. You accuse me of being irrational, but you can&#039;t imagine a public policy having an effect on our economy and our system. Strange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stoneaxe: &#8220;If you have even one rational bone in your body you have to understand that he was one lucky bastard. The economy being in the shape it was during his tenure was pure coincidence. Just part of the typical cycle.&#8221;</p>
<p>Clinton is a Rhodes Scholar with a PhD in economics. He raised the top marginal rates on our wealthiest citizens about 3%. Republicans said this would cause a depression or a steep recession and none of them voted for this tax policy. This tax change and some targeted tax reductions for working class people created the longest peacetime expansion of the economy in history. It turned the deficit handed over to him by Bush 41 into a surplus. You accuse me of being irrational, but you can&#8217;t imagine a public policy having an effect on our economy and our system. Strange.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=935919', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Redrum</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-935918</link>
		<dc:creator>Redrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of these comments are so sad.  You fight with each other, call each other names, and defend one party against the other.  The politicians like it this way.  By turning the political debate into something akin to a sports spectacle, it makes the average person feel like they&#039;re apart of what&#039;s happening.  My side vs. your side.  Let me tune in to talk radio and learn the good points about my team and the bad points about your team.  Let me tune into cable TV or the Sunday morning shows and watch a Democrat square off against a Republican, just like an NFL game.  It&#039;s entertainment, designed solely to keep you from paying attention to what&#039;s really going on.  It&#039;s misdirection.  And why?  Because what goes on in Washington isn&#039;t about you.  It&#039;s about power and who controls it.  It&#039;s about the flow of money, real money.  Yeah, most of it is yours, but you&#039;ve been conditioned to hand it over without thinking about it.  Every time you buy something, every time you get your paycheck, every time you pump gas, your money is taken from you.  Where does it go?  Do you really know?  Of course not.  You&#039;re not looking because they have you looking elsewhere.  Like the good magicians that they are. 

OK, resume your argument.  That&#039;s what they want you to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of these comments are so sad.  You fight with each other, call each other names, and defend one party against the other.  The politicians like it this way.  By turning the political debate into something akin to a sports spectacle, it makes the average person feel like they&#8217;re apart of what&#8217;s happening.  My side vs. your side.  Let me tune in to talk radio and learn the good points about my team and the bad points about your team.  Let me tune into cable TV or the Sunday morning shows and watch a Democrat square off against a Republican, just like an NFL game.  It&#8217;s entertainment, designed solely to keep you from paying attention to what&#8217;s really going on.  It&#8217;s misdirection.  And why?  Because what goes on in Washington isn&#8217;t about you.  It&#8217;s about power and who controls it.  It&#8217;s about the flow of money, real money.  Yeah, most of it is yours, but you&#8217;ve been conditioned to hand it over without thinking about it.  Every time you buy something, every time you get your paycheck, every time you pump gas, your money is taken from you.  Where does it go?  Do you really know?  Of course not.  You&#8217;re not looking because they have you looking elsewhere.  Like the good magicians that they are. </p>
<p>OK, resume your argument.  That&#8217;s what they want you to do.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=935918', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-935835</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Rice is fried -- she fits perfectly in the  incompetent  Bush&amp;Co.  
The worst of it is that thousands have paid with their lives - and still about a third of the country think they are just fine:  Nitwits who worship the misfits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Rice is fried &#8212; she fits perfectly in the  incompetent  Bush&amp;Co.<br />
The worst of it is that thousands have paid with their lives &#8211; and still about a third of the country think they are just fine:  Nitwits who worship the misfits.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=935835', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Stoneaxe</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/03/rice-urgent-threat/comment-page-4/#comment-935791</link>
		<dc:creator>Stoneaxe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These days I&#039;m having a difficult time believing we deserve much respect. As far as belief in the system just the opposite is true. I typically vote to maintain the checks and balance. I&#039;ll be voting democrat where there is republican strength (national) and republican where there is democrat strength (local). How sad that I feel the need to vote to try and minimize the power of our officials. My problem is that you all believe that only you hold the truth. The faithful on both side are sounding like religios zealots.

And you believe that Clinton is doing what he is doing without political purpose? How naive. I&#039;m not some neocon nut that believes Clinton is the devil. I voted for the man. I just don&#039;t believe he is the second coming as many here seem to. As far as things being better with Clinton. If you have even one rational bone in your body you have to understand that he was one lucky bastard. The economy being in the shape it was during his tenure was pure coincidence. Just part of the typical cycle. Some things were truly better, some were not.
The biggest problem we have is the polarization caused by a two party system. I don&#039;t care for half the republican platform, the same with the democrats. Start a rational party, one that would have put 100,000 troops into Afghanistan and hunted all of al-queda and the taliban down regardless of where they went into hiding. One that would also realize that we need to be good neighbors and lead by example, signed the Kyoto treaty, focused on reducing our dependance on foriegn oil, and on an on. Give me some politicians that will do whats right and not just what will keep them in power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These days I&#8217;m having a difficult time believing we deserve much respect. As far as belief in the system just the opposite is true. I typically vote to maintain the checks and balance. I&#8217;ll be voting democrat where there is republican strength (national) and republican where there is democrat strength (local). How sad that I feel the need to vote to try and minimize the power of our officials. My problem is that you all believe that only you hold the truth. The faithful on both side are sounding like religios zealots.</p>
<p>And you believe that Clinton is doing what he is doing without political purpose? How naive. I&#8217;m not some neocon nut that believes Clinton is the devil. I voted for the man. I just don&#8217;t believe he is the second coming as many here seem to. As far as things being better with Clinton. If you have even one rational bone in your body you have to understand that he was one lucky bastard. The economy being in the shape it was during his tenure was pure coincidence. Just part of the typical cycle. Some things were truly better, some were not.<br />
The biggest problem we have is the polarization caused by a two party system. I don&#8217;t care for half the republican platform, the same with the democrats. Start a rational party, one that would have put 100,000 troops into Afghanistan and hunted all of al-queda and the taliban down regardless of where they went into hiding. One that would also realize that we need to be good neighbors and lead by example, signed the Kyoto treaty, focused on reducing our dependance on foriegn oil, and on an on. Give me some politicians that will do whats right and not just what will keep them in power.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=935791', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bluedog49</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluedog49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Carozza, the information about Clinton&#039;s day when he tried to kill bin Laden is from &quot;The Clinton Wars,&quot; by Sidney Blumenthal. The book has been completely vetted and is acknowledged as one of the best historical accounts of Clinton&#039;s two terms by a Clinton insider. Historians have generally accepted the book as a valid history. I think you are the one being fooled here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Carozza, the information about Clinton&#8217;s day when he tried to kill bin Laden is from &#8220;The Clinton Wars,&#8221; by Sidney Blumenthal. The book has been completely vetted and is acknowledged as one of the best historical accounts of Clinton&#8217;s two terms by a Clinton insider. Historians have generally accepted the book as a valid history. I think you are the one being fooled here.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=935758', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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