Josh Marshall warned last night that the House leadership’s “last gambit” may be “to blame the Foley debacle on a cabal of gay staffers who hid and/or enabled Rep. Foley’s behavior for years.” The accusation is that gay staffers were willing to cover up for Foley simply because he also is gay. Already, The Nation’s David Corn reports that a list is being circulated detailing “top-level Republican congressional aides who are gay.”
Last night on Katie Couric’s CBS Evening News, this homophobic conspiracy theory was paraded to tens of millions of people. Their segment featured Family Research Council president Tony Perkins suggesting that the House leadership failed to investigate Foley months ago because they were “afraid to stand up to that network” of gay GOP staffers.
No views questioning this theory were aired. Watch it:
Anyone who shirked responsiblity or withheld evidence or participated in a cover up should be held accountable. But it’s grossly irresponsibile for the right-wing to use the Foley scandal to launch an anti-gay witchhunt, and CBS shouldn’t be aiding their efforts.
Full transcript:
GLORIA BORGER: Just a few hours after Kirk Fordham resigned as chief of staff to Tom Reynolds, the House Republican campaign chairman, Fordham told the Associated Press that he had more than one conversation with senior staff at the highest level. That means Hastert’s staff. Fordham was once a top aide to Mark Foley and is known to be gay. CBS News has learned that several other top Republican staffers who handled the Foley matter are also gay. Their role in this controversy has caused a firestorm among Republican conservatives who charge that a group of high-level gay Republican staffers were protecting a gay Republican congressman.
TONY PERKINS: Was the leadership afraid to stand up to that network out of fear of being labeled homophobic or gay bashing?
BORGER: Hastert’s office didn’t immediately respond to Fordham’s charges, saying it’s a matter for the ethics committee to handle. But Republicans won’t wait that long and they could still decide that Hastert has to go. Katie?
KATIE COURIC: Alright, thanks so much, Gloria.
There is NO Gay cabal in DC > just "Log Cabin" Republicans who are waking up to the fact the GOP hates them, so they are going to out all the closeted GOP members like Mark Foley! Mehlman and Rove will be outed soon and do not forget Bush baby having sex with Jeff Gannon the hooker!
October 5th, 2006 at 12:28 pmCareful, the "Gay Cabal" will make your drab Congressional office look FAAAAAB-u-LOUS!!!!!The only thing ANYONE has to fear from a gay ANYBODY is heightened fashion sense and heavy gossip.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:29 pmPERIOD. Geez, Pedophelia is perpetrated by 98% STRAIGHT MEN!!!look it up.Idiot.
Maybe the kids who were victimized should have read this article that I found on Reddit this a few days ago:
Moral Mailbox: My Boss is Gay
I think it is satire, but who knows these days. People are actually blaming the kids for this...Limbaugh, for example.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:29 pmIts the brain-dead media playing the same divisive crap that we all have become so used to.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:29 pmIt's plausible, sure, but it is also sort of absurd, and potentially slanderish of a whole group of people, some of whom might not want to have to come out of the closet to defend themselves.
These republicans really have no shame.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:30 pmwhuttup J.R.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:30 pmHastert and Boehner are gay? ... who knew?
October 5th, 2006 at 12:30 pmThose damn gays! If they're not out destroying marriage, they're covering for the fellow gay pedophile bastards.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:33 pmAmerica's Least Wanted
Weren't they afraid of looking homophobic just a few days ago? Now they want to relish in it?
October 5th, 2006 at 12:35 pmDoes this mean that Hastert is gay since technically he was the one who was "shielding" Foley?
MSM is more of a joke now than ever. They follow every crumb over the precipice that a lying Republican throws their way, but anyone be damned if they ever give a Democrat air-time. You know one still in office (sure they finally let Clinton on, but look what happened).
Is this about a self censoring MSM too afraid to be labeled as the "Liberal Media"? Or, is it simply about money?
If so, we should definitely be fighting to get our public airwaves back, but in the meantime its about time we had a fund raiser for air-time on the major networks. This has gotten way out of control.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:38 pmHe/she's a witch(gay)!
How do you know he/she's a witch(gay)?
He/she turned me into a newt.
A newt????
I got better.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:38 pmGOP foot so far in mouth it is coming out the butt.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:38 pmOh yeah, and Katie sucks as an anchor. Let's not forget about that. I'd rather slit my wrists and do pushups in vinegar than listen to her.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:43 pmI wouldn't be suprised if Tony Perkins was in the closet.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:43 pmThe issue is set, the GOP needs to come clean on their gayness. I know they are really pissed about Foley's pedophilia making them look bad, but at least we are a step closer to an openly gay GOP.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:46 pmThe GOP hates everybody, haven't the people figured that out yet?
They hate poor people, they hate NOLA, the hate Fema, they love war, they love money, they hate the french, they hate the spanish, they hate liberals, they hate macacas, they hate indians, they they even hate their base of christians wackos [Scanlon calls them], who will believe anything they are told. [Scanlon\Reed\Delay\Abramoff Indian Corruption] Now 5 years later they decide they hate staffers and have gone on a Mcarthyistic attack on themselves.
These people are screwing all of America for their unethical behaviour.
The GOP was against ethics before they were not for them
October 5th, 2006 at 12:46 pmSo, Denny Hastert is gay? We know he helped cover up Foley's behavior, so he must be a member of the cabal. Interesting that Denny would "out" himself in this manner.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:47 pmgeez...when will these wingnuts stop blaming everyone else for their actions (or lack thereof) ?
October 5th, 2006 at 12:48 pmWhy would anyone who is gay choose to be a republican? Or were they born that way?
October 5th, 2006 at 12:49 pmNo that habeus corpus is eliminated, we can kill them all without a trial!
GLORY!!
October 5th, 2006 at 12:50 pmGOP is really hamstringong itself today, they have lied about WMD, Yellow Cake, Mushroom Clouds, Ken Lay, PDB's, meetings, Cunningham, Ney, Safavian, Delay, Abramoff, AIPAC spys, Deficits, wars, billions lost, cronyism, spent millions on smear campaigns to deflect blame for 5 years?
Why should they stop at Gays?
The Gays are their last hope for pinning blame for all of their actions, this has nothing, really, to do with Foley, it's the standard Modus Operandi for the GOP. Blame Everyone but yourself.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:53 pmEvery single day an amazing new low in stupid is reached.
I CANNOT WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW!
October 5th, 2006 at 12:53 pmCheck this out.
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashmfa.htm
It seems that the Drudge Report is trying to claim the first page ole Foley got fresh with was a consenting adult. Time to break out the rebukes to this (if it's not true) or the 30% who are 'All Republican, All the Time' will be greeting this like Mana from heaven...
October 5th, 2006 at 12:54 pmOnly sheep would even watch CBS and Coric......oh, is CBS AND CORIC GAY...OOOOOOOO A GAY NEW MEDIA....OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
October 5th, 2006 at 12:58 pmAt least Republicans are showing America how slimy they are and at least CBS is helping them.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:58 pmSeems like a lot of this crap is meant to put the words "gay" and "pedophile" in the same sentence as often as possible.
October 5th, 2006 at 12:58 pmBushco may want to tnink about blaming the staffers I'm sure they have all kinds of juicy stories to tell about their bosses closeted behavior.
And we should start hearing them soon =)
October 5th, 2006 at 12:59 pmSo let me get this straight: Some Republicans are pushing the story that Hastert and all the other Republicans who knew about Foley are gay?
I did not know that.
So now that we know why the gay Republicans didn't tell on a gay Republican who liked to stalk children, why did the non-gay Republicans not tell on the gay Republicans.
This is all so confusing.
What has been going on up on the Hill? I'm not sure I want to know.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:00 pmBanned again, eh?
October 5th, 2006 at 1:01 pmHello Log Cabin Republicans.....Who loves you now baby?
October 5th, 2006 at 1:02 pmOr just don't want to talk about the dismantling of the Constitution...
October 5th, 2006 at 1:05 pmhttp://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/10/05/waterboarding_republic.php
Mainstream media working the conspiracy theory angle eh?
Get CBS a tin foil hat!!
A great big frat house party, a barrel of monkey's. The man with the yellow hat has left the building and George is on vacation clearing brush.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:05 pmIt's all a ploy to purge the GOP of gays.
Ah, Ken Mehlman, I'd stay clear of bus traffic.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:06 pmHmm! Nice parade! Now what happens if it is true that gays in responsible positions protected Congressman Foley. Do they get off the hook simply because they are gay?
October 5th, 2006 at 1:06 pmwhy not use the term "black list"??
October 5th, 2006 at 1:08 pmAny homosexual who is STILL a Log Cabin Republican after this settles is absolutely insane. It's like being a black KKK member at this point.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:08 pmThe Republicans are being criticized for not removing this queer from their ranks fast enough by the democrats who are the party of "gay Rights"? What an odd turn of events. Will the GOP turn this into a "gay bashing "? Why not, they aren't going to get the queer vote anyhow. But aren't the Dems doing their own "gay bashing"? If Foley was "born that way" doesn't that mean that he was queer before he infiltrated the Republican party? If He choose his lifestyle, then he was using the GOP to cover up his perversion.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:08 pmThe GOP base will continue to see Foley as a perverted queer, and the Democrats will have to explain why "not that there's anything wrong with that" he should have been purged at the first hint of a problem.
This implosion should be fun to watch, over one million log cabin Republicans aren't gonna go quietly. Especially since George himself has been known to be gay, even Cheney's daughter is Gay, and Lynn Cheney writes Lesbianish books. And Scooter Libbies book, wtf is that all about?
Will we finally find out what Jeff Gannon was really doing in the White House?
October 5th, 2006 at 1:10 pmWhy would anyone who is gay choose to be a republican? Or were they born that way?
Comment by Mikey
Extreme wealth, racial prejudice, sadism, to please their mother...lots of reasons.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:12 pmAnd the Long Knives are well and truly out.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:14 pmPlease don't draw attention to the "Male Cheerleader" President. Or, maybe we should make him stand up and say unabashedly "Yes, I was a cheerleader at Yale!" Heh!
October 5th, 2006 at 1:15 pmGOP the party that was for Evil before they were against Evil.
What better way to cloak a perversion than to use the cloth of Christ?
Catholic Priests, isn't that who molested Foley?
An authority figure?
He, Foley, Learned to Cloak his perversions in the cloth of authority.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:15 pmHAHAHA, the GOP has long known about the one million log cabiners, and have long taken their votes and money and support. The Democrats need explain nothing.
Nice try.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:17 pmNews Update: Congressman Tom Reynolds (R-NY) has stopped hiding behind kids. His new human shield is the First Lady.
So the First Lady's skirt is not big enough? They have to hide behind Katie Couric? That's just too much for her already floundering career to bear...
October 5th, 2006 at 1:18 pmCapt. Beefeater,
There's is a difference between being Gay and being a Pedophile. Why do you support pedophilia? Why would you want a Pedophile in charge of the Caucus on exploited children?
Why does the party of "Family Values" hate children?
October 5th, 2006 at 1:18 pm37
Beefeater-- if you do not know the difference between someone being gay and someone being a pedophile, a child predator, then you are just too stupid to even debate with.
Keep watching Faux news and worshiping that picture of Bush, while drooling, sitting on your couch. Your brain doesn't seem to be able to hold more than that.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:21 pmActually you just fingered the root of Foleys problem, perhaps unknowingly, and that is religious pedohilia. The 'moral' Republican Cloak of Hypocrisy blinds you beefeater.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:25 pm"Kirk Fordham, the former Foley aide, said in an interview with The Associated Press that more than three years ago he had "more than one conversation with senior staff at the highest level of the House of Representatives asking them to intervene." (ABC)
October 5th, 2006 at 1:30 pm... so then Kirk is only pretending to be gay, huh? Ok I'm lost.
So now we lay this at the door of the Christain coalition, and we ask this question:
WHY are GOP gay staffers even being hired and allowed to farther the advances and atrocities of GOP congressional pedophiles?
Pray tell us how the heck does those nasty little GOP gay staffers make these growing issue pedophile behavior okay? It all sounds much worse now, shouldn't the GOP fire the GOP gay staffers for allowing sexual atrocities to go un-noticed by aiding and supporting those GOP congressional pedophilers?
I don't get it?
October 5th, 2006 at 1:31 pmNice try.
Comment by Dog+named+Boo — October 5, 2006 @ 1:17 pm
Dog, I don't care if you choose to be "gay" or not, just be open about it. Foley is a perverted queer because he was trying to appear normal. I'm sick of these clowns hiding behind the GOP, the Church and even the Boy Scouts to indulge their perversions. I want to know so I can judge the individual and I don't trust somebody posing as something that they’re not. If there is nothing wrong with it, then be who you choose to be. If you do think that there is something wrong with it, that’s your problem, not mine.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:35 pmThe GOP have always hated the Log Cabin Republicans, since GOPers don't understand anything that is not under their control. But seriously, the neocon, theocon, and neo-fascist GOP do not know what to do with this bee in their bonnet. Just like Foley, they accept their help, but despise the helper.
Foley is a pedophile, or at the very least, a person afflicted with Obsessive-Compulsive Disease with the focus being clever, cute, and susceptible high school boys. Regardless, the real problem is not the IMs, the emails and the other intereactions, but the LYING about it and the cover up. JUST LIKE WITH CLINTON, GET MY POINT?
The real issue here is the hypocracy of the GOP, in particular the neocons, theocons and neo-fascists who have hijacked the party.
If we can IMPEACH Clinton, then we can do the same or equivalent with Hastert, Shimkus, Boner, and all the creeps that accept the money, help and good wishes of GLBT people, but despise them as vermin.
RESIGN HASTERT, YOU hypocritical slob.
RESIGN SHIMKUS, you incompetent.
Both of you go to AA and get some counseling.
Ugh.
--UB.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:39 pmSeems to me that Couric (number 3 of 3) is becoming the second GOP news feed.
I think that Couric, if not now, will soon be recognized as an American Nazi. She has been brought up with the "if it bleeds, it leads" journalism, typical of her role on Today.
Fire Couric, go back to real journalism.
Ugh.
--UB.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:42 pm"Mann gegen Mann
Doch friert mein Herz an manchen Tagen
Mann gegen Mann
Kalte Zungen die da schlagen"
"...Schwulah"
October 5th, 2006 at 1:44 pmI think it's a bit more than a little sick how no one is actually paying attention to the fact that Foley said to a MINOR "Do I make you a little horny." and "Get out a ruler and measure it for me." etc. This whole thing has turned into "He's a fag, and fags helped him keep the fact that he's a fag secret!" and that's bullshit. Sure, he's gay, but who cares. Alot of people are gay. Alot of people are pedophiles as well, but I like to think that most of them are in prison. I find the whole situation offensive.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:44 pmRemember a year ago, Hastert, when you diagnosed a neighborhood from a video, without meeting the residents, families, and kids? You said:
"A lot of this area will have to be bulldozed"
What a nice thing to do to desperate people wondering how they will live the rest of their lives without their house, home, and possessions. YOU CREEP.
Now we will bulldoze YOU into oblivion.
Ugh.
--UB.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:46 pmAnswer me this, does the Republican leadership really think that outting their gay staffers is going make their base (neanderthal-R) is going be energized to go and vote for Republicans?
October 5th, 2006 at 1:47 pmTens of millions? Not that many people tune into this crap do they? i thought her following has been steadily dropping since her 2nd night.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:47 pmI wonder if the Log Cabin Repulsivescum Bushite inbreds...
...will continue to vote against their own self interests...
... like their inbred (pedophile) trailer park, working poor, and middle class cousins?...
October 5th, 2006 at 1:53 pmIf Foley were merely gay, the republicans would have trotted out some adult willing to admit to being Foley's gay playmate. The fact that no-one could be begged, paid-off, or conned into doing it, shows he wasn't gay, he was a pedophile. That he chose young boys instead of girls can be explained by his psychology. Young boys, confused, and just starting to explore their individual manhoods (menhood?) would make tempting targets for Foley, who, as a male, would know their weaknesses and fears. He wouldn't have as much luck exploiting young females, having never been one.
Has Michael Jackson ever been known as a gay man? Have any of his adult, gay lovers ever come forward (no pun intended) to claim a liason with the King of pop? There would have been an incredibly huge financial incentive for someone to come forth (still no gay pun intended, it just the topic), but nada. Foley is a perv, plain and simple.
October 5th, 2006 at 1:54 pmWow, what's going on with the US! Your leaders need to get their priorities in order! However, is this the democrats trying to cause paranoia in the republican party and it's voters in hopes it'll implode or is this the republican party trying to drive out all signs of homosexuality?
... either way gay people will pay the price, unfortunately.
October 5th, 2006 at 2:05 pmI've been missing David Drier lately. He's usually front and center for EVERYTHING~gotta get his mug on television, just like Foley~but he's CONSPICUOUSLY ABSENT these days.
Hi David~!
October 5th, 2006 at 2:11 pmCorn is full of shit. "The List" that he so magnanimously refuses to publish has been on Michael Rodgers website "Blogactivist" for two years.
And this whole idea of the leadership blaming gay staffers for Foley is so outrageously stupid that only a liberal would imagine it much less believe it. It's just one more turn of the spin cycle the dems are putting on this scandal.
October 5th, 2006 at 2:12 pmCouric is the same teleprompter whore she was in the morning. I hope she gets so fat that she can't fit on the screen much less be digitally slimmed.
October 5th, 2006 at 2:15 pmMoran: "This whole idea of the leadership blaming gay staffers for Foley is so outrageously stupid . . ."
Moran is a moron, but this time I think he's right. This particular conspiracy theory doesn't help the Republicans one bit. We all know there are a number of gay GOP members and senior staffers on the Hill and in the administration -- just like there are anywhere else in any society. The religious conservative leaders all know it, too, and tacitly accept it as one of the unfortunate realities of coalition politics.
But their followers don't know it, and presumably aren't too happy to learn that GOP actually stands for Gays Obscured but Protected. That's why the other initial talking point -- that the House leadership was afraid of appearing homophobic -- has been quietly withdrawn. Sensitivity on that score isn't exactly a social conservative selling point.
Claiming there is a secret gay cabal within the Republican Party that successfully protected Mark Foley and sabotaged any effort to "clean up" the House is about the worst GOP defense I can possibly imagine. It would just about force the Dobsons and the Robertsons to disown the party -- or be disowned by their own supporters.
Of course, that doesn't mean some individual GOP politicos aren't spreading the story -- to try to save their own stinking hides. But I can't believe the party propaganda machine would run with it. They're not that stupid.
October 5th, 2006 at 2:35 pmUncle Bucky, what is "Obsessive-Compulsive Disease"? I've never heard of it. I've heard of "Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder", but that has nothing to do with what you're talking about.
October 5th, 2006 at 2:39 pmThis fake objectivity on the part of the media is precisely what the Republicans have worked for through their long campaign of decrying the so-called "liberal bias" in the media. Now, the chickens--t media, afraid of conservatives at least and in cahoots with them at worst, reports every piece of ridiculous G.O.P. spin as if it were a real argument.
October 5th, 2006 at 2:45 pm[...] 10/5/2006House Leadership: Blame the Faggots If you can’t blame the Jews, the blacks or the Democrats: Josh Marshall warned last night that the House leadership’s “last gambit” may be “to blame the Foley debacle on a cabal of gay staffers who hid and/or enabled Rep. Foley’s behavior for years.” The accusation is that gay staffers were willing to cover up for Foley simply because he also is gay. Already, The Nation’s David Corn reports that a list is being circulated detailing “top-level Republican congressional aides who are gay.” Last night on Katie Couric’s CBS Evening News, this homophobic conspiracy theory was paraded to tens of millions of people. Their segment featured Family Research Council president Tony Perkins suggesting that the House leadership failed to investigate Foley months ago because they were “afraid to stand up to that network” of gay GOP staffers. Filed under Politics by Andy Permalink • Print • Email • Comment [...]
October 5th, 2006 at 2:50 pmThis should be fun:
Jeff Gannon, the former gay male escort/White House Corespondent, is scheduled to be on live with Randi Rhodes TODAY in the 3rd hour of her show (5:30pm ET, Thursday).
Gannon/Guckert reportedly pissed that gay Rethugs are being thrown under the bus by Values based Rethugs.
October 5th, 2006 at 2:51 pmWell, if you get your news from the likes of Katie, you may be making a mistake. The only reason to watch her flap her gums is to certainly get a chuckle. Every night is more comical than the previous. Why, the Colorado father that blamed the Amish Tragedy on abortion, and darwin teachings in the schools and now promoting an aside cabal that the powers to be imagine as homosexuals, when rightly the issue is pedophilia.
October 5th, 2006 at 2:55 pmI'm starting to wonder if her employers are just using her to promote their twisted ways maybe only to dump her because her ratings suck and she costs too much.
Corporate America has no scruples. Their greed for power and money have taken America to its lowest of points.
Only the people can straighten this out. By what ever means.
Step one, kill the TV. It does nothing but spew propangda (the base of republican thinking, lies). Step two, curtail some spending on products they promote.
You don't want to be a part of this, do ya?
I guess the good news is that Katie Couric's awful newscast has already fallen to third place, so it's more like "millions" than "tens of millions."
October 5th, 2006 at 3:07 pmOh You Republicans and your kooky conspiracy theories. I'll bet they were communists too.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:12 pmKatie Couric isn't even that good looking. Why would anyone watch her for news? Just another shill for corporate propaganda. The CBS evening news is going to sink even farther than the Titanic. And good riddance!
October 5th, 2006 at 3:59 pmBeing molested does not make you gay or a pedophile
Being an alcoholic does not make you gay or a pedophile.
Being gay does not make you a pedophile and certainly not vice versa either.
But apparently being a Republican means you are a liar and a hypocrite.
Remember during the Clinton/Lewinsky affair how they tried to portray her as a child and now they are portraying 16 year olds as adult? And how they all kept going on Fox (Un)News and saying “How can we explain this to our children?â€â€”I have not heard that once yet.
And if anything the Republicans are the ones who outed this story. It helps distract from their incompetence at their supposed strength—terror and safety. And their lies lies lies lies.
October 5th, 2006 at 4:07 pmLOL,
So these IM's were sent to an 18 year old. Sounds like this isn't really even a story. The only real story is the fact that the Dems were pushing to push out personal information about 2 consenting adults. Isn't that what your supposed to be against?
October 5th, 2006 at 4:19 pmFOLEY IM's WERE PRANK
According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL IM exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, it was revealed today.
According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of Dem political operatives.
The primary source, an ally of Edmund, adamantly proclaims that the former page is not a homosexual. The prank scenario was confirmed by a second associate of Edmund. Both are fearful that their political careers will be affected if they are publicly brought into the matter.
The news come on the heels that Edmund has hired former Timothy McVeigh attorney, Stephen Jones.
October 5th, 2006 at 5:00 pmto katie --- ur the "repugnant" one - as is your network...--- in a freefall oh dear... happy landings... m
October 5th, 2006 at 5:01 pmCCR: Couric's Conservative Revue
October 5th, 2006 at 5:01 pmFOLEY is not Gay he's a Pedophile plain and simple no matter how you try to spin this. Gay or Straight you go after minors its a crime and for those that new this are no less guilty and complicit in his criminal behaviour and those like David Drier,Ken Melhman,and Santorum cheif of Staff and Hustler Jeff Gannon and other closeted Gays in the RNC deserve to be outted not protected by the gay community and yes I'm Gay and damn Proud of it !!!!!!!!!!!!
October 5th, 2006 at 5:12 pmGOP and ethics really are mutually exclusive.
There is perhaps, way deep down, a kernel of something in this desparation move though. Being gay is not a problem, however suppressing one's true sexuality for so long does have a tendency to lead to deviance. Then there is the always looming question of what could possibly drive a homosexual to support the GOP in the first place... there are plausible "good" reasons, but being horribly warped and/or self-hating is definately on the list of likely reasons.
October 5th, 2006 at 5:45 pmI am very curious why the media is taking it at face value that Foley is where his lawyer says he is.
How do we know that? And why is the PRESS not trying to find out where he is?
How come we found out where Terri Shiavo's nursing home was in five minutes?
October 5th, 2006 at 6:11 pmOh lawyer !! Oh lawyers !! where art thou ??
October 5th, 2006 at 6:34 pmThe same legal beagles whom defended those young men molested by the clergy in the Catholic Church ... where are they ?? some young man
in the Capital needs you ... he wants to file a law suit .... Oh thats right where is the pot of gold ?? the pot of gold was in the Vatican ... where is this pot of gold ??
Maybe thats why the lawyers aren't lifting the rocks from down under ..
But it HAS to be somebody's fault, and Republicans have NEVER ACCEPTED RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING, so why not the Gays? What about Darwin? Activist judges?
October 5th, 2006 at 7:35 pmI don't give a damn if the Republican ranks are lousy with gays. Sure, I'm not gay and I have trouble relating to gays.
But gays aren't rapists. Gays don't prey on children.
A person who does that, whether the children are male or female, whether the person is male or female, are rapists.
Foley's emails reveal that he wants to take advantage of innocent, curious children. Kids who are vulnerable. Sure, they're teens - they're trying to deal with puberty. But they're still just kids, powerless and vulnerable to someone who wields awesome power in this country.
If a congressman wants to wreck your career, he can do it. Forever. If he wants to destroy your family he can do it. Completely. Foley knew that.
And he took advantage of it to rape children. That's not gay. That's black hearted evil. If you can't tell the difference, then you've got a bit of Foley's evil in you, too.
October 5th, 2006 at 7:40 pmThe interesting issues here are the question of the age of consent, and the hypocricy of any group that covers up illegal sexual activity while promoting themselves as moral and promoting "family values." With regards to the former, sexual orientation shouldn't be an issue, nor should gender. No double standards. I'm a liberal but I will question how many liberals (or conservatives, for that matter) who are up in arms about the Foley scandal had consensual underage sex, like, before 18? Maybe 16?
How quickly we forget...but it was okay if your parter was under 18...but over 18, oh, very evil. Rape! Rape!
With regards to the latter, the R's are doing business as usual. And that is where the chancre gnaws....when they invade Iran we will forget about all of this, right? Stay tuned.
mro
October 5th, 2006 at 8:45 pmFor all you libs lookin for a republican scalp...give it a rest.
In 1983, Democratic congressman Gerry Studds was found to have sexually propositioned House pages and actually buggered a 17-year-old male page whom he took on a trip to Portugal. The 46-year-old Studds indignantly attacked those who criticized him for what he called a "mutually voluntary, private relationship between adults."
When the House censured Studds for his sex romp with a male page, Studds — not one to be shy about presenting his backside to a large group of men — defiantly turned his back on the House during the vote. He ran for re-election and was happily returned to office five more times by liberal Democratic voters in his Martha's Vineyard district. (They really liked his campaign slogan: "It's the outfit, stupid.")
October 5th, 2006 at 9:25 pmWalter Cronkite is rolling over in his grave, and he's not even dead yet.
October 5th, 2006 at 11:33 pmCan you say ?" NAZI FASCIST GAY PEDOPHILE TORTURER WAR CRIMINAL REPUBLICANS"....
October 6th, 2006 at 3:43 amKarma-like cannibals contracting leprosy or "The machine eats itself "
"known to be gay". Is that like Bay Buchanan's "known homosexual"?
October 6th, 2006 at 7:59 amOOOO--Can't wait to see what skeletons the outed Log Cabin gays pull from the political closets once their master turn on them. This is going to be fun.
October 6th, 2006 at 9:03 amThis story is so illogical. A gay conspiracy? What hogwash! What person who is gay would do this full well knowing that his or her career would sink like the Titanic. It's not going to help anyone who is gay. This Republican Fascism can only continue the bigotry. It's just what an unethical, "caught red-handed" Republican would do.
October 6th, 2006 at 4:26 pmSo that's what GOP stands for...
I get it now...!
Gay Ole Party.
Sounds faaaBUlous!
October 6th, 2006 at 6:15 pmWill people PLEASE stop calling this pedophilia. This was NOT pedophilia. I think what Foley did was wrong, I think it was victimizing teenagers, but this was NOT pedophilia. This is correctly referred to as EPHEBOPHILIA. Why does it matter? I look to the right wing to not care about getting the facts right NOT progressives. So please, PLEASE, call this what it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EPHEBOPHILIA!!!!
October 6th, 2006 at 6:19 pmcbs has now sunk to the level fox news.
October 6th, 2006 at 8:07 pmKatie is so cute. I really like her glasses. I wonder when she's going to start reporting the news.
October 6th, 2006 at 10:09 pmThe republicans have been saying forEVER that gays have over developed sex drives and are child predators when no facts exist to support this. What they meant to say is that all they gays they know inside the republican party are perverts.
October 7th, 2006 at 5:56 pmI think the thing that the GOP is really very afraid of is the idea that there are other high-level gay Republicans that have made sexual advances toward minors. The idea is to keep as much as possible the focus on Foley, and to avoid at all costs moving the discussion of this into the arena of "who else is engaging in this kind of behavior within the GOP rank and file"? Certainly other gay powerful GOP operatives who have done the same thing Foley has, as has been documented in the past. Why should the present be any different?
Since Foley was caught, it's Foley they must focus on at all costs -- the last thing they want is for this thing to spin out of control and for other GOP staffers to be exposed for sexual lewdness with underage pages or other powerless minors.
October 8th, 2006 at 2:03 am[...] Oh the annals of shame runneth over as 1) Denny Hastert blames everybody for his sins and the sins of Mark Foley and 2) Tom Reynolds makes having kids (cute if possible) present a fixture at all of his press conferences for the purposes of distraction and deflection, and 3) the right wing nutjobs pin the whole hullaballoo on a dark, secret “network” of gay staffers who apparently twisted Foley’s ears (his arms were obviously busy) and seduced Hastert, Boehner and Reynolds into looking the other way. [...]
October 9th, 2006 at 11:34 amBuffalo, where was the outrage from the left over the antics of Gerry Stubbs who actually had sex with an underage page? Where was the demands of the left for investigations when Clinton commuted the sentence of a former congressman who was convicted of having sex with a minor who worked for him?
Foley is a non issue. Pages never pressed charges, some even have admitted they were playing along as a joke. Has Foley ever done anything but send these E-mails and IMs?
Where is the call to investigate the fact that reporters knew about these e-mails for months and sat on them, where is the call for investigations into how the press got these e-mails?
If these pages and their parents were so damaged by this, why hasn't any of them pressed charges? Why didn't any of these pages go to the police?
Foley is a scum bag but the difference is he is gone and under investigation by the FBi while democrats who actually have had sex with underage subordinates get a slap on the wrist or a pardon.
Why all the focus on Foley dems? is it because you know you cannot win on the REAL issues?
The idea that the GOP covered this up is insane. How could they? Did they have the pages killed? The pages could easily have gone to the police or the media but for some reason none of them did. Hell, we even have one of them admitting he played along and acted interested in Foley because he thought it was funny. These pages weren't victimized they thought it was a big joke. Foley never touched anyone, thank god, and the congress doesn't need a pig like him in it. However, let's not forget that this has happened before, people were actually raped by congressmen who just happened to be democrats. Funny how the media didn't pay as much attention to actual child rape. and can't stop discussing a guy who just diddled himself.
October 12th, 2006 at 4:24 pmI love how the "Ethics" page has yet to discuss Harry Reid's dirty land deal. Apparently ethical standards only apply to republicans.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:01 amHaHaHa
its true!!!
Look at the Bohemian Grove.....They routinely hire Gay Porn Stars as "entertainment" for guests including Henry Kissinger and Bruce Babbit...
Its more of an Occultist Cabal then simply a gay one...more of a cult really...
look up Bohemian Grove, they worship Molech, an ancient owl god mentioned in the bible as an "Idol of Evil Worship."
at the Grove (Bohmian Grove, Redwoods, California) they have a large stone owl..
in front of the owl is an alter, here, a cloaked preist and his consuls, conduct a moch human sacrifice..by burning a human effigy..
This ritual is called "The Cremation of Care."
Then, they all get drunk, run around naked in the woods, and have gay orgies..
Nixon said, and I QUOTE..
"The Bohemian Club is the most God-Dammed Faggy thing I've ever seen, I can't shake hands with Californians."
Google "Bohemian Grove" if you would like to know more about the Cabal...
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