
MSNBC’s Mike Viqueira reports:
Denny Hastert, it turns out, reached out to ex-FBI Director Louis Freeh. He wanted him to head up an overhaul of the page program, but it’s not going to happen now, for the time being anyway.
Hastert gave a call to Nancy Pelosi in Washington today. Nancy Pelosi said no, that’s not good enough. We don’t want an overhaul of the page program. We need a more thorough investigation. That’s something that both Democratic and Republican aides that I’ve just spoken to agree on, that Pelosi refused. So Freeh, for the time being, will not be heading up, as other news organizations have been reporting, will not be heading up…a probe, or an overhaul…of the page program here in the House.
Nice job, Pelosi! No whitewashes!
October 5th, 2006 at 2:46 pmThen it must be a good idea. Anyything she stands for is just wrong.
October 5th, 2006 at 2:47 pmGood for Pelosi. After all, Freeh, the Congressional GOP’s hatchet man on Bill Clinton, would be in charge of a partisan cover-up.
From “Freeh at Last: Revenge and Revisionism at the FBI”…
“Eager to improve his image tarnished by the Ruby Ridge cover-up and the Richard Jewell Atlanta bombing fiasco, Freeh became a reliable servant and source of leaks for Republican committeemen in Congress. In the FileGate case, Freeh became an outright water carrier for the GOP. While the Clinton administration claimed this was merely a bureaucratic snafu (a conclusion backed four years later by a three judge panel), Freeh played the martyr, claiming, “the FBI and I were victimized.” In 1997, Freeh’s FBI leaked information to the Washington Post about Chinese contributions to Democratic campaigns and even went so far as to brief Congressional Republicans.”
October 5th, 2006 at 2:49 pmGood because Freeh is NOT an impartial person, besides he helped Ken Starr to go after President Clinton involved in a consensual affair with an adult Monica, so not like Foley who likes underage teenage male Pages!
October 5th, 2006 at 2:49 pmYou Go, Girl!
October 5th, 2006 at 2:49 pmOverhaul the page program? Oh, yes, because it’s the PAGES fault that perv republican scumbags prey on them….
October 5th, 2006 at 2:50 pmThen it must be a good idea. Anyything she stands for is just wrong.
Comment by Happy+Guy
Happy Guy is another Gross old Pedophiles enabler for the gop child predator ring, folks. He thinks actually investigating this is a bad idea. Most pedophile supporters would.
October 5th, 2006 at 2:52 pmCan’t we just get over this and put these tawdry tales aside? You know there are troops being killed in iraq. Where are your priorities?
Don’t you support them?
October 5th, 2006 at 2:52 pmGo Nancy! Go Nancy!
October 5th, 2006 at 2:53 pmFrom CNN:
LAHOOD: It just — it’s a program that simply is flawed. It has its flaws. We should fix it. And then if it’s a valuable program, perhaps bring it back.
M. O’BRIEN: Well, that’s kind of a sorry state of affairs. In essence, what you’re saying is that members of Congress can’t be trusted to be around young people.
LAHOOD: Well, that’s pretty obvious.
October 5th, 2006 at 2:55 pmThank You, Nancy!
October 5th, 2006 at 2:58 pmDon’t forget just who “Doc Hastings” is:
House GOP Leaders Name Loyalist to Replace Ethics Chief
etc., etc. etc.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:01 pmIs there a problem with the Page program itself?
If not, then why overhaul it?
They just keep trying to shift blame from Foley and the GOP.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:02 pmIt won’t work.
It will just show them for what they are.
BWHAHAHAHAAA
Drudge gets it wrong AGAIN.
Still claiming Freeh is running the investigation.
What a loathesome irrelevent shill
October 5th, 2006 at 3:02 pmNancy rocks, she does the best she can under this corrupt system. I will continute to vote for her.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:03 pmAs another person on another thread said, what’s wrong with having the current head of the FBI investigate? Not beholden enough?
In case you hadn’t noticed, the Republicans are the ones keeping the troops over there. Unless they are removed from power there is no chance that we can withdraw. This is all part of the process.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:05 pmGA Ray,
yes, we support our troops, get the troops out of Iraq NOW and Congress provide funding the VA to support our troops when they return.
Now back to the scandal at hand… this story is making the news because it shows the hypocritical Republican values. The Repubs were worried about Clinton cheating on his wife while all the time the Repubs were hiding sexual harrassment by the Repubs to the Congressional pages. Whether one chooses to call Foley a pediophile or gay, the fact remains… this is still SEXUAL HARRASSMENT.
Nancy, another proud moment for a mother, grandmother and Congresswoman. Thanks for speaking up, Nancy.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:09 pm#8, Ray, sure we all know Iraq is sucking much more than usual. But when we are handed lemons, we just can’t resist whipping up the lemonade!!
October 5th, 2006 at 3:10 pmShouldn’t the mainstream media be reporting in Iraq? Abramoff knowing about the Iraq war over a year before it started? The World Bank meeting in Mexico City to plan for a dirtier future? The poll of soldiers stating that they are seriously overextended? What about the outing of Valerie plame? What about torture and the new bill stripping habeus corpus? Wiretapping? Campaign finance reform? The plan to limit our access to the internet?
Of course they should, but instead we get dead girls and live boys.
Time to take back the airwaves.
FBI Caught Lying….
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/10/fbi-caught-lying-to-reporters-about.html
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October 5th, 2006 at 3:12 pmEnough with the boy wrangling. Too much has been done to, I meanwith them already. Root out the evil doers fire the perpetrators and protectors and get back to the disaster of I raq and try to make us feel good about our boys being killed at an alarming rate and the North Korean nuclear testing madman laughing his ass off at us right now.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:14 pmComment by Ann Nony Mous — October 5, 2006 @ 3:01 pm
Is this the same as Nonny Mouse?
October 5th, 2006 at 3:15 pm#8
“rayfrom GA”
You want to support the troops? First, go find out exactly what the troops need.
Here you go.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061004/ts_alt_afp/usiraqafghanistanconflictveterans_061004203857
Think Progress ran a thread on this and other issues affecting the troops yesterday. October 4th.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:15 pmLeave it to Fox News to get it wrong.
Pelosi is right. We needs answers to what happened this time before we can move forward with an overhaul. And those answers need to be made under oath. It is called oversight. No wonder Hastert and the Republicans don’t understand what is happening.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:17 pmNice to see Nancy use her spine…
October 5th, 2006 at 3:19 pmThe trolls are back I see….
October 5th, 2006 at 3:21 pmBuford,
October 5th, 2006 at 3:21 pmThanks for that link. Repulsive as it is.
Can’t we just get over this and put these tawdry tales aside?
Would you if it were your child being sexually stalked by a 52 year old man?
Besides, you guys spent years focusing on Bill Clinton getting a blow job from another adult. You can’t tell us that you think a grown man trying to have sex with underage boys is any less worthy of investigation… Because that would make you a hypocrite.
You know there are troops being killed in iraq. Where are your priorities?Don’t you support them?
Comment by RayFromGA — October 5, 2006 @ 2:52 pm
Ya’ll are the ones who sent them and keep them there. Apparently you don’t…
October 5th, 2006 at 3:22 pmAs another person on another thread said, what’s wrong with having the current head of the FBI investigate? Not beholden enough?
Comment by SKdeA
Yeah, remember they raided Jefferson’s office in the bribery investigation. Denny thinks that the FBI has no business investigating, possibly raiding corrupt congressmen’s offices, but thinks its ok to wiretap without a warrant, arrest and hold indefinately without charges anyone else.
Do I sound cynical?
October 5th, 2006 at 3:24 pmThis is a good sign. The Dems are using their brains and finally have the nerve to say no to a partisan “nonpartisan investigation.” Even though it takes our eye off the serious issues like the war and the Constitution, this crap may just cause a shift in power so we can deal with some of those issues.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:27 pmOuted IM “victim” is Beavis (or Buthead). Pranky. Hetero. Heh.
Developing…
October 5th, 2006 at 3:27 pmAccording to CNN, they called Pelosi’s office and “she” denied that she said no to Hastert when he asked her if Louis Freeh should lead the Page Program investigation. So MSM needs to sort this out.
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October 5th, 2006 at 3:27 pmI wonder what Charlton Heston (R-Actor) has to say about this. His comment about the Lewinsky affair was, “I wouldn’t let my 22 year old daughter around him.”
Oh, and RayFromGA, nice try at brushing this off as a case of “tawdry tales.” I guess if a congressman asked your 16 year old son to measure his penis and tell him how long it was, you’d be supplying the ruler.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:29 pmOkay, I have a couple of questions for our Republican friends.
First, whatever happened to Louis Freeh being the bad guy in the whole sordid Ruby Ridge affair? Despite the fact that the victims were white supremacists, Republicans had no problem sympathizing with poor Randy Weaver and demonizing the FBI, including Louis Freeh. Now, Freeh’s a good guy? So, were you Republicans really all that concerned about Randy Weaver and his family, or were you just playing to your base?
And, do you Republicans feel any different now about Randy Weaver and Ruby Ridge after 9/11 and the endless “war on terror”? That is, given that Randy Weaver was, in fact, involved in the Aryan Nations – a group whose avowed purpose is to overthrow the U.S. government and establish a white “homeland” – and that he did, in fact, deliver illegal sawed off shotguns to an undercover FBI agent posing as an arms dealer, with the promise that he could deliver several more on a weekly basis, wouldn’t you now deem him a sufficient threat that government intervention was justified? After all, if Randy Weaver were a radical Muslim instead of a radical Christian/white supremacist, wouldn’t the government just take him out? You know, like George Bush says, shoot first, ask questions later? That’s the new “paradigm,” right – don’t wait for a threat to materialize?
Just curious.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:43 pmComment by Ann Nony Mous
You have the wrong Hastings He’s from Florida.
October 5th, 2006 at 3:43 pm[...] UPDATE: Minority Leader Pelosi has blocked Freeh from investigating the page program. [...]
October 5th, 2006 at 3:55 pmYou go, Nancy.
October 5th, 2006 at 4:13 pmHow about no page program. The halls of Congress are much too filthy for underage people to be around.
October 5th, 2006 at 4:27 pmI didn’t know the Dems were capable of blocking anything.
October 5th, 2006 at 4:27 pmHaster: ‘ok then, how about having one of these people ‘investigate ‘:
Micky Mouse,..no?…rush limpdong…no?….mr ann coulter…no?…Goofy..?…I got it….Stevie Wonder!…..
October 5th, 2006 at 4:29 pmJust like the Dems – holler for an investigation, then spike the investigation when they get it. Pelosi probably realizes that Freeh is overqualified from his years of having to keep track of all the Clinton scandals!
October 5th, 2006 at 4:32 pmHastert gave a call to Nancy Pelosi in Washington today. Nancy Pelosi said no, that’s not good enough. We don’t want an overhaul of the page program. We need a more thorough investigation.
It’s not the page program that needs to be overhaul but the Republican Leadership!
October 5th, 2006 at 4:56 pmTest
October 5th, 2006 at 4:58 pmFOLEY IM’s WERE PRANK
According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL IM exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, it was revealed today.
According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of Dem political operatives.
The primary source, an ally of Edmund, adamantly proclaims that the former page is not a homosexual. The prank scenario was confirmed by a second associate of Edmund. Both are fearful that their political careers will be affected if they are publicly brought into the matter.
The news come on the heels that Edmund has hired former Timothy McVeigh attorney, Stephen Jones.
October 5th, 2006 at 4:58 pmLouis Freeh is a member of the VRWC. He is a partisan hack. He must not be allowed to conduct this investigation.
October 5th, 2006 at 5:22 pm” Pelosi probably realizes that Freeh is overqualified from his years of having to keep track of all the Clinton scandals! ”
You mean Clinton “pseudo scandals” like Whitewater, Filegate, Travelgate, Chinagate, Monicagate………….where they spent millions in massive witchunts and came up with………………….blow jobs!
October 5th, 2006 at 5:24 pmYou gotta be shittin’ me! Minority Leader Pelosi? Nancy Pelosi, the nice, sweet democrat from California?
Well good for her! Maybe she learned something last week when she watched Bill Clinton bitch-slap the crap out of Mike Wallace’s little squirt.
October 5th, 2006 at 5:30 pm“We are often to blame in this–
‘Tis too much proved that with devotion’s visage and pious actions we do sugar o’er the devil himself”
Passage from the film, “V for Vendetta.”
October 5th, 2006 at 5:37 pm[...] WORST IDEA EVER! Roll Call FREEH WILL LEAD PAGE PROBE: Sources said Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) will announce today that former FBI Director Louis Freeh will oversee an investigation of the House page program, which has been rocked in recent days by the scandal surrounding resigned Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.). Hastert is expected to hold a news conference in Illinois this afternoon. CNN said that Nancy Pelosi objected, so Hastert didn’t announce this in his press conference. According to Think Progress, MSNBC also reported that Pelosi blocked the Freeh appointment. [...]
October 5th, 2006 at 5:52 pmoh god. you people are amazing. reality never creeps in. uh, folks, she doesnt want it to be investigated or overhauled. see? capice? she wants the issue. she doesnt give a damn about “the safety of the children”. this is a political game to her. they never gave a damn about ethics or the kids when studds did it. they dont give a damn about the 100k cold hard in willys freezer. they dont give a damn about perjury. they didnt give a damn when barnie the F ran a hoe service out of his towner. they didnt give a damn about mel reynolds and his catholic school girls. come on people, think. i know the problem is you are all too young and have no idea what i am talking about; thats cool. you’ll grow up some day. and all this posturing by those dopes (the dems) will be amusing to you; because based on history, DOCUMENTED real history, reality, not the fantasy world, it can NOT be anything other than play acting. hysterical really.
oh and when its all over….it’ll be kinda like …uh….merry fitzmas. peace out!
October 5th, 2006 at 6:03 pmFirst, whatever happened to Louis Freeh being the bad guy in the whole sordid Ruby Ridge affair?
Actually, this Republican blames Janet Reno for that one. And for Waco. And for Elian Gonzalez. And for the “Gorelick Wall.” And the list goes on and on and on. Reno was this nation’s worst attorney general – ever.
And, do you Republicans feel any different now about Randy Weaver and Ruby Ridge after 9/11 and the endless “war on terror�
I feel differently about all terrorist threats since 9/11 – unlike most Democrats. But I also hasten to point out that Weaver was merely a separtist, not a terrorist. The only crimes he had been charged with before Ruby Ridge were a nonviolent weapons charge (illegal shotgun) and a failure to appear at the hearing on that charge. It was during the attempted service of a bench warrant that the Ruby Ridge shootout occurred.
BTW, it has never been conclusively determined who fired the first shot, but Weaver later was acquitted of all charges except the FTA.
October 5th, 2006 at 6:26 pm#51
How can you blame Janet Reno for Ruby Ridge when George H.W. Bush was president then? Did she use a time machine?
Quit listening to liars like Rush.
October 5th, 2006 at 7:11 pm#51-
October 5th, 2006 at 7:19 pmAlso, you complain about Elian Gonzalez being sent back to his country, but don’t you repubs want to build a 10,000 foot tall wall to keep out all the Hispanic illegal immigrants like him?
BTW, it has never been conclusively determined who fired the first shot, but Weaver later was acquitted of all charges except the FTA.
Comment by Citizen+Dad
If Weaver hadn’t been a giant asshole, his wife would be alive today. The FBI fired first, and killed Weaver’s wife, while trying to hit him. It was totally wrong.
Weaver had the opportunity to surrender himself at the courthouse, but he decided he’d rather be an Idaho idiot, and it cost him big time. All over a stupid bench warrant for an FTA. He could have bonded out the same day.
Weaver has never taken responsibility for his part in that massive clusterf*ck.
October 5th, 2006 at 7:31 pmLike the bumper sticker says. . . . NANCY PELOSI…Bad for California, BAD for AMERICA!
October 5th, 2006 at 9:39 pmCitizen Dad (re: No. 51) – I’m not sure that Weaver could avoid the “terrorist†appellation under today’s “rules.†As you say, he was a separatist – and, a member of an organization that advocated using violence to “separate†from the U.S. and create a white “homeland.†The FBI alleges that Weaver and others were frustrated with the lack of action by the Aryan Nations and talked about forming a splinter group. The FBI also alleges that Weaver invited the under cover agent – who was, as I said above, posing as an arms dealer – to meet with him and others who were planning this splinter group, including a guy from Montana who’d previously been convicted on an explosives charge. And, again, the FBI informant claims that Weaver, who was broke and desperate for money, sold the informant one or two sawed-off shotguns (believing the informant to be an arms dealer, and having invited the supposed arms dealer to join the splinter group with the Montana convicted felon/explosives guy), telling the informant that he, Weaver, could supply four to five illegal guns per week.
If this guy were a Muslim in today’s American, and he belonged to a “separatist†organization, was expressing frustration with the group’s inaction and was planning to start a more radical group with another Muslim who had been convicted on an explosives charge, and had sold illegal guns to an FBI informant with the promise of supplying several more on a weekly basis – there can be no serious doubt that the government would consider him to be a terrorist and he’d be wearing those orange pajamas down at Gitmo.
That’s all I’m saying …
October 6th, 2006 at 2:46 pmI just find it extremely aggitating that everyone wants to point the finger at Foley who was wrong in what he did with the page, but right in resigning- this does not mean that I advocate what he did at all. But in the same respect what about Studds (who is a Democrat) who received 3 standing ovations after HAVING sex with an underage male page and did not resign, but your fav Pelosi actually tried to have him head quite a few commitees. I realize that the liberals and the democrats loved Bill Clinton while he “did not have sexual relations” with Monica Lewinsky, and btw while he was getting himself polished I had soldiers on food stamps and welfare because of his great 1% pay raise for the Military each year while he was in office.
Maybe if we all huddle and sing kum-ba-ya around a campfire and hold hands world peace will be evolved. Pull the blinders off, we have not been well liked around the globe for quite some time so to think that it is SOLELY Bush’d fault is blantently retarded. To think it is just the Republicans fault is also retarded, do I think Cliton should have been impeached over his affair…no….but the question that you should be asking yourself is was it morally right, just like Foley was it morally right, or Studds was it morally right. Get out of the grey area, the is a FINE line between right and wrong, no grey area and for any party to capitalize on the back of a 16 year old pages life that will now be ruined because of what Foley did, oh yea, MORALLY WRONG.
October 11th, 2006 at 10:59 pmHow would you feel if your child was put in that position, would you want him blasted on the Washington Compost ooops Post. I wouldn’t.