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		<title>By: Heynow</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/06/foley-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-968401</link>
		<dc:creator>Heynow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 19:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... Another whopper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; Another whopper.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=968401', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/06/foley-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-963441</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, thats the kind of moral values I like to see! This sure will get the gay/lesbian community behind the GOP this election term. Gee, I didn&#039;t think they could do it, but they sure did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, thats the kind of moral values I like to see! This sure will get the gay/lesbian community behind the GOP this election term. Gee, I didn&#8217;t think they could do it, but they sure did.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=963441', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Eargy Earp</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/06/foley-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-961382</link>
		<dc:creator>Eargy Earp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 02:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no maybe about it Arnie,  Hastert was told about it years before ABC broke the story and did nothing.

Yes, that is &lt;strong&gt;MUCH&lt;/strong&gt; better.

GOP leadership unfair to unsuspecting pages!!

What don&#039;t you understand about this story.  It&#039;s pretty straightforward.  And if Hastert had apologized, siad he thought the reports were sniping before but should have investigated earlier......maybe he could have stopped the hemmorhage.  But no, he used a CLintonianesque defense (them guys is out to get me) and has now sealed his fate.

Personally, I don&#039;t give a rats behind if he resigns or not....he is done as leader of the GOP in Gongress, no matter HOW the election turns out.

If you can&#039;t see that then you don&#039;t understand the American people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no maybe about it Arnie,  Hastert was told about it years before ABC broke the story and did nothing.</p>
<p>Yes, that is <strong>MUCH</strong> better.</p>
<p>GOP leadership unfair to unsuspecting pages!!</p>
<p>What don&#8217;t you understand about this story.  It&#8217;s pretty straightforward.  And if Hastert had apologized, siad he thought the reports were sniping before but should have investigated earlier&#8230;&#8230;maybe he could have stopped the hemmorhage.  But no, he used a CLintonianesque defense (them guys is out to get me) and has now sealed his fate.</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t give a rats behind if he resigns or not&#8230;.he is done as leader of the GOP in Gongress, no matter HOW the election turns out.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t see that then you don&#8217;t understand the American people.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=961382', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Eargy Earp</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/06/foley-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-961381</link>
		<dc:creator>Eargy Earp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 02:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no maybe about it Arnie,  Hastert was told about it years before ABC broke the story and did nothing.

Yes, that is &lt;strong&gt;MUCH&lt;/strong&gt; better.

GOP leadership unfair to unsuspecting pages!!

What don&#039;t you understand about this story.  It&#039;s pretty straightforward.  And if Hastert had apologized, siad he thought the reports were sniping before but should have investigated earlier......maybe he could have stopped the hemmorhage.  But no, he used a CLintonianesque defense (them guys is out to get me) and has now sealed his fate.

Personally, I don&#039;t give a rats behind if he resigns or not....he is done as leader of the GOP in Gongress, no matter HOW the election turns out.

If you can&#039;t see that then you don&#039;t understand the American people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no maybe about it Arnie,  Hastert was told about it years before ABC broke the story and did nothing.</p>
<p>Yes, that is <strong>MUCH</strong> better.</p>
<p>GOP leadership unfair to unsuspecting pages!!</p>
<p>What don&#8217;t you understand about this story.  It&#8217;s pretty straightforward.  And if Hastert had apologized, siad he thought the reports were sniping before but should have investigated earlier&#8230;&#8230;maybe he could have stopped the hemmorhage.  But no, he used a CLintonianesque defense (them guys is out to get me) and has now sealed his fate.</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t give a rats behind if he resigns or not&#8230;.he is done as leader of the GOP in Gongress, no matter HOW the election turns out.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t see that then you don&#8217;t understand the American people.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=961381', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Arne+Langsetmo</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/06/foley-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-961345</link>
		<dc:creator>Arne+Langsetmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 01:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;In fact, their entire story is a fabrication. Hastert could not have issued an ultimatum to Foley after the sexually explicit instant messages were made public, because by that time, Foley had already resigned.&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe you&#039;re a bit unfair.  Maybe Hastert knew &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; the ABC story came out that Foley was a sleazebucket hypocrite sexual predator.  Could be.  Maybe someone should ask him &lt;i&gt;how&lt;/i&gt; he knew this in advance....

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In fact, their entire story is a fabrication. Hastert could not have issued an ultimatum to Foley after the sexually explicit instant messages were made public, because by that time, Foley had already resigned.</i></p>
<p>Maybe you&#8217;re a bit unfair.  Maybe Hastert knew <i>before</i> the ABC story came out that Foley was a sleazebucket hypocrite sexual predator.  Could be.  Maybe someone should ask him <i>how</i> he knew this in advance&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cheers,<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=961345', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Make Them Accountable / And that&#8217;s not the only lie &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/06/foley-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-960817</link>
		<dc:creator>Make Them Accountable / And that&#8217;s not the only lie &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 22:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Conservatives Push False Talking Point Defending Hastertâ€™s Handling Of Foley Scandal [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/06/foley-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-960324</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 20:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a rumour spreading like wildfire around the blogs that Hastert lives with his top aid and his wife lives in a hotel and that he is gay. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. If the GOP 
didnt demonize gays and promote themselves as the party of &quot;family values&quot; it wouldnt matter but they set themselves up for a fall.

check huffpo,daily kos, and americablog for more info</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a rumour spreading like wildfire around the blogs that Hastert lives with his top aid and his wife lives in a hotel and that he is gay. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. If the GOP<br />
didnt demonize gays and promote themselves as the party of &#8220;family values&#8221; it wouldnt matter but they set themselves up for a fall.</p>
<p>check huffpo,daily kos, and americablog for more info<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=960324', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous+Dem</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/06/foley-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-960194</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous+Dem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 19:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The definition of gross negligence is turning a blind eye.  There is more and more evidence - including admissions at the highest levels of knowledge of some very suspicious conduct by Foley - showing that is what the leadership in the House did for quite some time with respect to Foley&#039;s evil pederasty.  

What makes it worse is that there was a clear motive to not find out with lots of opportunities to learn more not taken.  The motive of course was to not damage the Republicans&#039; precarious chances for maintaining a majority in the House, and with it Hastert&#039;s Speaker position and all the other leaders&#039; majority positions.  

It&#039;s a close call, but either way, given how abhorrent the conduct was, I think the Republicans have to go.  No excuses this time.  If we voters reelect them, we will show Republican politicians by our actions that next time they can take a chance at doing evil without having to worry too much about the consequences.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Majority_think_Hastert_tried_to_cover_1007.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The definition of gross negligence is turning a blind eye.  There is more and more evidence &#8211; including admissions at the highest levels of knowledge of some very suspicious conduct by Foley &#8211; showing that is what the leadership in the House did for quite some time with respect to Foley&#8217;s evil pederasty.  </p>
<p>What makes it worse is that there was a clear motive to not find out with lots of opportunities to learn more not taken.  The motive of course was to not damage the Republicans&#8217; precarious chances for maintaining a majority in the House, and with it Hastert&#8217;s Speaker position and all the other leaders&#8217; majority positions.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a close call, but either way, given how abhorrent the conduct was, I think the Republicans have to go.  No excuses this time.  If we voters reelect them, we will show Republican politicians by our actions that next time they can take a chance at doing evil without having to worry too much about the consequences.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Majority_think_Hastert_tried_to_cover_1007.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Majority_think_Hastert_tried_to_cover_1007.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=960194', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: John+Gilpins</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/06/foley-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-960193</link>
		<dc:creator>John+Gilpins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 19:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judicious,

Sure! Okay! Okay if you say so!

All I know is that Bill&#039;s wife can JUDICIOUSLY start packing for the move to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Republican-bashing will be sooooooooo much fun. And I thought there wasn&#039;t a God. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! 

Dubya&#039;s brain is a quart low. Several quarts. In fact, the entire engine is gone. It&#039;s not only sad for him, but it&#039;s sad for the country.

Dubya doesn&#039;t have a moral compass. 


John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judicious,</p>
<p>Sure! Okay! Okay if you say so!</p>
<p>All I know is that Bill&#8217;s wife can JUDICIOUSLY start packing for the move to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.</p>
<p>Republican-bashing will be sooooooooo much fun. And I thought there wasn&#8217;t a God. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! </p>
<p>Dubya&#8217;s brain is a quart low. Several quarts. In fact, the entire engine is gone. It&#8217;s not only sad for him, but it&#8217;s sad for the country.</p>
<p>Dubya doesn&#8217;t have a moral compass. </p>
<p>John<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=960193', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/06/foley-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-960018</link>
		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 18:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>110:

Are you now the TP hall monitor?

Don&#039;t go near the boys bathroom Paul, I heard Biff and Wormy want stick your head in the toilet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>110:</p>
<p>Are you now the TP hall monitor?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t go near the boys bathroom Paul, I heard Biff and Wormy want stick your head in the toilet.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=960018', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kaes</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/06/foley-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-959758</link>
		<dc:creator>kaes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 17:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the indepth history

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2531.htm#001</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the indepth history</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2531.htm#001" rel="nofollow">http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2531.htm#001</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=959758', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/06/foley-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-959693</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 17:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breaking News.  Foley resigned a week ago.  Move along, nothing to see here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breaking News.  Foley resigned a week ago.  Move along, nothing to see here.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=959693', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lantern+Bearer</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/06/foley-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-959249</link>
		<dc:creator>Lantern+Bearer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 15:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been listening to the Talk Radio echo chamber,  I don&#039;t usually but now is as good a time as ever.  I refuse to have TV in my home so I occasionally have to get a touch point on a particular bit of news.

Please know that if any gay bashing results from the Mark Foley incidents that it will be from the usual hypocrites that keep that tool at hand.  

What we need to address here is the Trawling and PREDATION for les than innocent sexual intention, be it homo or hetro.  

We do not know that an act of sexual misconduct arose out of any of Mark Foley&#039;s pleasant little chats that have been documented.    We do have reason to believe that the intent seems to be there to create a sexually charge atmosphere between himself and some of the young pages.  That is the smoke of this event.  

Mr.  Foley was a functioning, public gay man who mingled in the social setting of Palm Beach County and Washington D.C. as such.  That is not the error here.  That he was interested in the development of young minds for noble Congressional service is not even an affront.  What is an affront is that he chose to tend that hot frame of seedlings to tease out those who were receptive to his advances for mutual sexual gratification, either in the illegal near term or as soon as they turned 18.  

Alcohol as a reason for the behavior is a weak crutch and an illogical ploy to dismiss the egregious behavior.  Mr. Foley is a brilliant man who did not need benefit of a university education.  So, no matter the quality of his thinking or his able abilities of mind, he is one down from most of his colleagues because he is a mustang.  He came up through the ranks without a university degree.  

Further, Mr. Foley is a gay man who comes with all the baggage that entails.  He is two down.

Mr. Foley is a rapacious pleaser and compensator.  To fit in with his chosen political party he had to be twice or three times as aggressive and effective in all the organizational and political chores he took on.  

Mr. Foley was also a second bench man when it came to his representative status.  There are two House districts that run through Palm Beach County.  One is the 16th; that is Mr. Foley&#039;s.  The other is the 22cd; that is someone elseâ€™s.  The 16th takes in the west side of the county.   The 22cd takes in the narrow coastal  enclave that is centered on the City of Palm Beach.  So, in Palm Beach Count, Mr. Foley was definitely second string.  

Palm Beach and Lake  Worth are different from the rest of the world.  It is an enclave that is driven by the peculiar needs of its peculiar residents.  They are &quot;old money&quot; super rich, they are new comer super rich.  There are resident TV preachers who have made theirs and are now taking their ease.  There is an inordinate representation of sexual preferences in the Palm Beaches and its attendant shore side colony of drones and worker bees.  

Mr. Foley is very much a product of his surroundings.  Those surroundings being wealth - great wealth.  New money is one thing, but old, great wealth is preferred.  There is the grand collection of epicureans, dilettantes, rapacious sexual appetites and predation on the shore side herds of willing.  

Mr. Foley may have come with a predisposition for his sexual preferences.  When they emerged in Palm Beach County, you can be sure that they were noted and tended by interested parties.  

Back to alcohol.  Drink is the salve that soothes the hurting and deprived ego.  It is the great compensator for social division and isolation.  Mr. Foley did not come by his preferences out of the blue.  He was accessible and willing.  It became a learned behavior.  He in turn made inroads with the accessible and willing.  The pages under his care came with all the potential that is to be found in the rest of the population.  They are intelligent â€“ they have a capacity â€“ they are smart â€“ they are able to develop their capacity.  In addition they are accessible and some are willing.  Mr. Foley needed only to cull the herd.  

To kill the discomfort of what he knew was a game played on the razorâ€™s edge, he drank.  Now he is willing to hide behind that as his alibi.  

My educational background is one of research and writing.  My onboard skills are those of keen observation and a deep capacity for details.  The only ax that I have to grind here is that the relevant issues come to the fore and that the true nature of the circumstances prevail.  

Lantern Bearer
&lt;em&gt;
Please, be attentive, be intelligent, be reasonable, be responsible.

You have no business to believe me.
I ask you to believe nothing that you cannot verify for yourself. . .
If you have not a critical mind, your visit here is useless. 
G.I. Gurdjief&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been listening to the Talk Radio echo chamber,  I don&#8217;t usually but now is as good a time as ever.  I refuse to have TV in my home so I occasionally have to get a touch point on a particular bit of news.</p>
<p>Please know that if any gay bashing results from the Mark Foley incidents that it will be from the usual hypocrites that keep that tool at hand.  </p>
<p>What we need to address here is the Trawling and PREDATION for les than innocent sexual intention, be it homo or hetro.  </p>
<p>We do not know that an act of sexual misconduct arose out of any of Mark Foley&#8217;s pleasant little chats that have been documented.    We do have reason to believe that the intent seems to be there to create a sexually charge atmosphere between himself and some of the young pages.  That is the smoke of this event.  </p>
<p>Mr.  Foley was a functioning, public gay man who mingled in the social setting of Palm Beach County and Washington D.C. as such.  That is not the error here.  That he was interested in the development of young minds for noble Congressional service is not even an affront.  What is an affront is that he chose to tend that hot frame of seedlings to tease out those who were receptive to his advances for mutual sexual gratification, either in the illegal near term or as soon as they turned 18.  </p>
<p>Alcohol as a reason for the behavior is a weak crutch and an illogical ploy to dismiss the egregious behavior.  Mr. Foley is a brilliant man who did not need benefit of a university education.  So, no matter the quality of his thinking or his able abilities of mind, he is one down from most of his colleagues because he is a mustang.  He came up through the ranks without a university degree.  </p>
<p>Further, Mr. Foley is a gay man who comes with all the baggage that entails.  He is two down.</p>
<p>Mr. Foley is a rapacious pleaser and compensator.  To fit in with his chosen political party he had to be twice or three times as aggressive and effective in all the organizational and political chores he took on.  </p>
<p>Mr. Foley was also a second bench man when it came to his representative status.  There are two House districts that run through Palm Beach County.  One is the 16th; that is Mr. Foley&#8217;s.  The other is the 22cd; that is someone elseâ€™s.  The 16th takes in the west side of the county.   The 22cd takes in the narrow coastal  enclave that is centered on the City of Palm Beach.  So, in Palm Beach Count, Mr. Foley was definitely second string.  </p>
<p>Palm Beach and Lake  Worth are different from the rest of the world.  It is an enclave that is driven by the peculiar needs of its peculiar residents.  They are &#8220;old money&#8221; super rich, they are new comer super rich.  There are resident TV preachers who have made theirs and are now taking their ease.  There is an inordinate representation of sexual preferences in the Palm Beaches and its attendant shore side colony of drones and worker bees.  </p>
<p>Mr. Foley is very much a product of his surroundings.  Those surroundings being wealth &#8211; great wealth.  New money is one thing, but old, great wealth is preferred.  There is the grand collection of epicureans, dilettantes, rapacious sexual appetites and predation on the shore side herds of willing.  </p>
<p>Mr. Foley may have come with a predisposition for his sexual preferences.  When they emerged in Palm Beach County, you can be sure that they were noted and tended by interested parties.  </p>
<p>Back to alcohol.  Drink is the salve that soothes the hurting and deprived ego.  It is the great compensator for social division and isolation.  Mr. Foley did not come by his preferences out of the blue.  He was accessible and willing.  It became a learned behavior.  He in turn made inroads with the accessible and willing.  The pages under his care came with all the potential that is to be found in the rest of the population.  They are intelligent â€“ they have a capacity â€“ they are smart â€“ they are able to develop their capacity.  In addition they are accessible and some are willing.  Mr. Foley needed only to cull the herd.  </p>
<p>To kill the discomfort of what he knew was a game played on the razorâ€™s edge, he drank.  Now he is willing to hide behind that as his alibi.  </p>
<p>My educational background is one of research and writing.  My onboard skills are those of keen observation and a deep capacity for details.  The only ax that I have to grind here is that the relevant issues come to the fore and that the true nature of the circumstances prevail.  </p>
<p>Lantern Bearer<br />
<em><br />
Please, be attentive, be intelligent, be reasonable, be responsible.</p>
<p>You have no business to believe me.<br />
I ask you to believe nothing that you cannot verify for yourself. . .<br />
If you have not a critical mind, your visit here is useless.<br />
G.I. Gurdjief</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=959249', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: judicious+levity</title>
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		<dc:creator>judicious+levity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 14:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Everytime I see a Dem on TV, they are being double teamed - at least - Iâ€™d love to see them hit hard on ANYTHING but frankly thatâ€™s not easy in that environment. &lt;/em&gt;

This is a known and admitted fact in media circles.  It&#039;s not just Dem politicians, either.  This policy also applies to any pundit or expert who&#039;s invited to speak on the mainstream news shows in any situation where there is a bilateral perspective.

Why don&#039;t the Dems point out this double-team tactic and turn it into a talking point the way Repub&#039;s&#039;ve made &quot;liberal media&quot; a catchphrase?  

And why do I pay taxes to support these numbskulls who can&#039;t seem to do anything but wring their hands?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Everytime I see a Dem on TV, they are being double teamed &#8211; at least &#8211; Iâ€™d love to see them hit hard on ANYTHING but frankly thatâ€™s not easy in that environment. </em></p>
<p>This is a known and admitted fact in media circles.  It&#8217;s not just Dem politicians, either.  This policy also applies to any pundit or expert who&#8217;s invited to speak on the mainstream news shows in any situation where there is a bilateral perspective.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t the Dems point out this double-team tactic and turn it into a talking point the way Repub&#8217;s&#8217;ve made &#8220;liberal media&#8221; a catchphrase?  </p>
<p>And why do I pay taxes to support these numbskulls who can&#8217;t seem to do anything but wring their hands?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=959200', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: p***edoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>p***edoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 14:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#96- you see the problem lies that most dems who are called to these shows are, for the lack of a better word, too gentle to talk up to these people. In the end the either end up looking like wimps and make the entire party look weak and unsure. I would rather have a blowhard out there making outrageous statements than back off under pressure. The worst that can happen is that they won&#039;t get invited back. Btw do you have any idea who those blonde women are who appear on FNC as dem strategist...they look like plants to me and even if they are not maybe someone in the DNC should either stop hiring them. 
The bottom line is this is a bona fide scandal which requires being talked about everyday. The Republican leadership quite possibly took hush money to protect a child predator. Unfortunately for the lack of an articulate and loud voice on the Dem side this message is getting lost in the obfuscation and innuendos being generated by the Republican noise machine. All it takes is one elected official from the Dem side to go and say forcefully that the problem is a Republican problem because they control the house, the person involved is republican and any financial transaction involved is done on their side. It does not matter how outrageous the allegation is because by the time it is proved or disproved the election will be over. This is something that the Republicans know and use, unfortunately Democrats play too nice for that. This is politics where perception matters more than the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#96- you see the problem lies that most dems who are called to these shows are, for the lack of a better word, too gentle to talk up to these people. In the end the either end up looking like wimps and make the entire party look weak and unsure. I would rather have a blowhard out there making outrageous statements than back off under pressure. The worst that can happen is that they won&#8217;t get invited back. Btw do you have any idea who those blonde women are who appear on FNC as dem strategist&#8230;they look like plants to me and even if they are not maybe someone in the DNC should either stop hiring them.<br />
The bottom line is this is a bona fide scandal which requires being talked about everyday. The Republican leadership quite possibly took hush money to protect a child predator. Unfortunately for the lack of an articulate and loud voice on the Dem side this message is getting lost in the obfuscation and innuendos being generated by the Republican noise machine. All it takes is one elected official from the Dem side to go and say forcefully that the problem is a Republican problem because they control the house, the person involved is republican and any financial transaction involved is done on their side. It does not matter how outrageous the allegation is because by the time it is proved or disproved the election will be over. This is something that the Republicans know and use, unfortunately Democrats play too nice for that. This is politics where perception matters more than the truth.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=959182', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: judicious levity</title>
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		<dc:creator>judicious levity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 14:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Good heavens, some folks down here still listen to Rush Limbaugh after he hypothicized the Foley thing is a Dem plot - as if 3 years ago the Dems put pages up to luring Foley into predatory behavior and saved the bomb until now.&lt;/em&gt;

Uhh.  .  .folks are still listening to Rush &quot;Tough on Drug Offenders&quot; Limbaugh AFTER the pill-poppin&#039;, doctor shoppin&#039; prick was busted by 5-0 and confessed to having a teeny drug problem.  They don&#039;t call &#039;em dittoheads for nothing! ;-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Good heavens, some folks down here still listen to Rush Limbaugh after he hypothicized the Foley thing is a Dem plot &#8211; as if 3 years ago the Dems put pages up to luring Foley into predatory behavior and saved the bomb until now.</em></p>
<p>Uhh.  .  .folks are still listening to Rush &#8220;Tough on Drug Offenders&#8221; Limbaugh AFTER the pill-poppin&#8217;, doctor shoppin&#8217; prick was busted by 5-0 and confessed to having a teeny drug problem.  They don&#8217;t call &#8216;em dittoheads for nothing! ;-P<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=959115', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeanne</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/06/foley-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-959095</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 14:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what the most amazing thing is? Hastert was a teacher. If somebody from the teaching profession isn&#039;t going to protect the youth who will?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what the most amazing thing is? Hastert was a teacher. If somebody from the teaching profession isn&#8217;t going to protect the youth who will?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=959095', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DSouth</title>
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		<dc:creator>DSouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 14:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasters&#039;s on staff dispute his account of what happened. Read this article released this morning.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15163986/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasters&#8217;s on staff dispute his account of what happened. Read this article released this morning.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15163986/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15163986/</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=959076', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jurassicpork</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/06/foley-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-958560</link>
		<dc:creator>jurassicpork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/2006/10/maureen-dowd-death-by-instant-message.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mo Do on Mark Foley&lt;/a&gt;. I was beginning to wonder when one of the &lt;i&gt;NY Times&#039;&lt;/i&gt; op-ed columnists would get around to writing about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/2006/10/maureen-dowd-death-by-instant-message.html" rel="nofollow">Mo Do on Mark Foley</a>. I was beginning to wonder when one of the <i>NY Times&#8217;</i> op-ed columnists would get around to writing about this.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=958560', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/06/foley-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-958516</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a pedophile helping a pedophile if you think for one minute that this foley is the only pedophile in you gov think again the pervert conventions runs your idiot gov,, good luck with that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a pedophile helping a pedophile if you think for one minute that this foley is the only pedophile in you gov think again the pervert conventions runs your idiot gov,, good luck with that<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=958516', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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