I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

There is no guarantee that those who voted Green would have voted Democrat, they are guys who left the Democrats because they were disgusted with the Democrats. Further, if you agree with the Greens maybe you should vote for them, you call them whiners but the fact is that they are a legitimate political party expressing views you agree with.

Anyway, the trick you guys need to do is to make the disgruntled Republicans who won’t vote Democrat, vote Libertarian and you can’t do that so long as you are hell bent on maintaining a two party system. You need to neutralise the “But they did it too” defense, by making the people on the right figure “Well then we will vote for neither of you then.” There is no reason why the average conservative, can’t vote independent too.

Yes, Dems need to fight…not only the Republicans but those on the left who enable them.

let’s give the world “the perfect gift”…

…Bushiva, L’il Dick, Woolfowitz, Rummy et. al…

…to the Hague for war crimes and crimes against humanity…

…after we confiscate all of their families’ (and those of the warprofiteers) wealth to repay the U.S. treasury…

To win the election is only one step that must be taken, the greater step comes next, to rule and rule well. If the Democrats win the elections and don’t succeed in the next step it will spell doom for America, because it will speak of a true case of there being no government worthy of your vote and ultimately the cancer that has been in America’s core since the Nixon administration will complete its work, you will end up with another Bush, only this time less competent and more dictatorial.

Now Katy argues that I do not know what I am talking about, I am a South African I don’t know what is going on in America, and she is wrong. America is going through precisely what South Africa went through at the opening of Apartheid, a racial grouping being demonised, the rise of terror both as a threat and as a political tool, and the dismissal of the left. The Democrats are the official opposition party, and this is their curse, that so long as they don’t get angry, so long as they don’t fight and make themselves heard, they will continue to lose support.

Just as an example of what I am talking about: How the Nats got in power at the start of Apartheid, because they didn’t have the majority vote. They went and toured the small towns, the smaller constituencies, because you see, how the PM got elected was not based on a simple majority, but rather how many seats he could get. Bush got named Time Man of the Year for using this tactic.

The 2004 elections were not stolen by vote fraud. Ultimately, they were stolen by apathy, by the vast majority of Americans not voting, and by this philosophy of “Don’t waste your vote.” This philosophy was and is strong in South Africa, just as it is in America, with much the same results. Our ruling party, after the opposition decided to start a campaign based around “Do not weaken the opposition” took just over 66% of the seats in parliament, because those who didn’t agree with the opposition (whose economic policy is interchangeable with GW Bush’s) didn’t bother to vote.

I know in America you have a different political system whereby the states elect their representatives and it seems to be all or nothing, but you need to learn from our country and know that saying, “Don’t weaken the opposition” simply makes the opposition look weak. You need to encourage all voters to turn up, you need to have the people willing to vote and many of them, those who ordinarily wouldn’t have bothered, will vote for you. Don’t make yourselves look weaker then you are, encourage opposition, say things like “If you don’t trust me, then don’t vote for me, but if you do; know that I won’t just represent you, I will represent the whole state.”

This is the weakness of the Republicans, they represent their voters, values voters, Christian voters, racist voters, and corporate voters, and they do not represent their whole state. Think about all of that “Us and Them” or “Some People Say” or “Some Liberals” and recognise the basic truth, the Republicans do not understand that the president represents America, not the party the president happens to belong to. Now find a way to use that.

Unite America in more then just your disgust at the Republican Party. Find solutions and make them common knowledge, it is hard work but it is possible, don’t give up. Point out that the Republicans tend to bash Democrats for what have been highly successful programs, such as social welfare. Before social welfare there was starvation in America, which led to cash in transit heists in America, and the rise of organisations like the Mafia and KKK in America. Hungry people get desperate, even in America.

The Democrats need to fight to win, and to win you need to be strong, you need to forget about left and right, you need to know all about who you are and what you stand for. If a Democrat betrays you, don’t vote for him vote independent, don’t treat the Democrats like a special case and if you are a Democrat don’t ask people to, don’t compromise, fight.

Because if you do not fight you will lose even if the Democrats win. Do not reward a weak Democrat for weak behaviour; reward the ones who stood firm against torture, and against the unilateral presidency. The worst fear any leftwing supporter should have is not the Democrats losing the elections, it is them winning, and then doing nothing. If nothing changes, what was the fight really worth?

just to clarify…

It’s like supporting your football team even when they are going badly.

Yes, KM4 at #1, I like Wes Clark too. The Dems should have gone for him last time.