In May 2003, President Bush said the United States would “not tolerate nuclear weapons in North Korea” and “will not settle for anything less than the complete, verifiable, and irreversible elimination of North Korea’s nuclear weapons program.”
Three years later, North Korea has offered the first “manifest proof” of its nuclear capabilities, and Bush has moved the goal posts. Yesterday, Bush said the US “would hold North Korea fully accountable” if they transferred nuclear material to other states or “non-state entities.” Watch it:
The difference is striking. Back in 2003, the administration was riding high after declaring “mission accomplished” in Iraq. Today, the Iraq war rages on, sapping resources and energy away from other crises around the world.
For six years, the Bush administration has refused to engage in direct talks with North Korea. The country now may possess enough weapons-grade plutonium for as many as 13 nuclear weapons.
Transcript:
BUSH: We will not tolerate nuclear weapons in North Korea. We will not give into blackmail. We will not settle for anything less than the complete, verifiable, and irreversible elimination of North Korea’s nuclear weapons program. [5/23/03]
BUSH: The transfer of nuclear weapons or material by North Korea to states or non-state entities would be considered a grave threat to the United States, and we would hold North Korea fully accountable of the consequences of such action. [10/9/06]
Sounds like he plans to give ‘em a real stern talking to. Failing that he will …..put ‘em in time out.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:23 pmthat’s funny! here is the 95 mil for your nukular water plants (turns to his dog dick and laughs about watering plants with nukular water when he just uses the regular kind)
then whines about how da bomb ain’t cool for NK
then whines they are the axis of evil
has rummy sell them the stuff to make da bomb
whines again, whines louder
and poof, the deus ex machina and we have rummy selling them, the US giving them the money to buy them, the potus gets to beat his war drum so we can bomb the shit out of them, and then sell them the stuff all over again! unless china beats us to it
what’s new and why isn’t this playing on the MSM?
October 10th, 2006 at 3:26 pmIt’s amazing what level this administration has brought us to.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:26 pmFor more, see:
http://www.dallasblog.com/ken-molberg/2006/10/10/yet-another-elephantine-failure.html
Wow, thanks George. I really feel safe now.
Hopefully he will handle North Korea as expertly as Iraq.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:27 pmMuch as the war mongering Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney would like, I think even they realize that invading a country with a million man army is ill-advised.
What is wrong with an actual conversation. The Bush Administration refuses to talk with the leaders of any country with whom it disagrees.
Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney like to sound tough, but when it was their turn to serve their country in Vietnam, they choose not to.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:29 pmtheworstpresidentever.org is under a Freeper attack.
Some of the comments they’re leaving with thier “no” votes will drive you to bang your head against the wall.
On topic: Bush totally bungled this NK situation and made it worse with his sabre-rattling.
Wouldn’t you be scared too if the leader of the most powerful country in the world added you to an “axis of evil” then invaded one of the other countries on that list?
October 10th, 2006 at 3:29 pmJust goes to show that the AXIS of EVIL speech was stupid.
After seeing the invasion of Iraq, North Korea and Iran realized that the only way to protect themselves is through nukes.
I would do the same thing if my name was next on the Axis of Evil list after Iraq.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:32 pmEmperor George and the ReichWingNuts are weak on defense. Period.
The only thing they know how to do is make money (most typically on the sale of weapons).
The think ReichWingNuts do NOT know how to do is to keep us safe.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:35 pmI left alone my mind was blank
I needed time to think to get the memories from my mind
What did I see can I believe that what I saw
that night was real and not just fantasy
Just what I saw in my old dreams were they
reflections of my warped mind staring back at me
Cos in my dreams it’s always there the evil face that twists my mind
and brings me to despair
The night was black was no use holding back
Cos I just had to see was someone watching me
In the mist dark figures move and twist
was all this for real or some kind of hell
666 the Number of the Beast
Hell and fire was spawned to be released
Torches blazed and sacred chants were praised
as they start to cry hands held to the sky
In the night the fires burning bright
the ritual has begun Satan’s work is done
666 the Number of the Beast
Sacrifice is going on tonight
This can’t go on I must inform the law
Can this still be real or some crazy dream
but I feel drawn towards the evil chanting hordes
they seem to mesmerise me…can’t avoid their eyes
666 the Number of the Beast
666 the one for you and me
I’m coming back I will return
October 10th, 2006 at 3:35 pmAnd I’ll possess your body and I’ll make you burn
I have the fire I have the force
I have the power to make my evil take its course
…would you like fries with that crow Mr. President?
October 10th, 2006 at 3:39 pmHow clueless does he look in that video?
If God exists, God would remove this evil ignorant man from earth!
October 10th, 2006 at 3:43 pmNow look. No one could have predicted North Korea would develop or test a nukular weapon, no one. Why is anyone even discussing this – it only emboldens the enemy.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:44 pmWhere is jason hendler when his president needs him? and all the other brain dead trolls.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:47 pmOctober 10th, 2006 at 3:49 pm
How dare you accuse our president of being a lying, backpedaling, sneaky, fourflushing, double dealing, obfuscating, weaseling, jackass!
October 10th, 2006 at 3:49 pmThat’s my job!
He is sounding more like a blowhard than ever.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:51 pm95 million payoff to Korea to not produce nukes.
Someone help with this.
Kimmie says I’m gonna make a nuke, Bush pays him off with 95 million plus another 3.5 million.
Isn’t that, in effect, giving in to the ‘blackmailers’?
October 10th, 2006 at 3:54 pmOh yeah! Do you think the next thing out of his Bush’s mouth would be freedom is on the march in NK?
October 10th, 2006 at 3:56 pmI guess he threw that slogan away since I haven’t heard him yap it for awhile.
I wonder why George and his warmonger cabaal don’t spontaneously burst into flames and sink to hell.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:58 pmI would even settle for GW’s dad coming on and saying he had to put George in time out, and will be running the country now.
October 10th, 2006 at 4:04 pmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1908571.stm
BBC NEWS
Bush grants N Korea nuclear funds
The US Government has announced that it will release $95m to North Korea as part of an agreement to replace the Stalinist country’s own nuclear programme, which the US suspected was being misused.
BBC April 3, 2002
October 10th, 2006 at 4:08 pmSad to say, I probably would too. Congress should enact a law against spoiled silver spooned sons of former Presidents from EVER EVER attaining the office of President or VP.
October 10th, 2006 at 4:09 pm
How much more proof do we need that this administration and the Republican Party have NOT made us safer? Nevertheless, the mainstream media still lets them get away with the claim that national security is their strength – a claim resting solely on empty rhetoric and entrenched received notions.
The neo-cons at the wheel are living in either willful ignorance or monumental denial. The MSM needs to finally call them on this. The White House press corps should be refuting any such claims, prepared to respond to Tony Snow with a litany of examples, including this mishandling of North Korea, as cold hard proof of its undeniable failure to better protect our country. If the MSM consistently reported the realities of this administration’s woeful national security record, Bush’s (and the Republicans’) favorability ratings on this front would plummet, rivaling those numbers related to his tragic handling of Iraq.
Moreover, the Democrats should immediately leverage this failure and, in plain language, do everything in their power to expose the sham of Republican national security dominance to the American people. Every Democrat running for national office should include this message in at least one campaign commercial. A concerted effort is needed to finally put a stake through the heart of this myth. It is not enough for Democrats to sit back and hope the Republicans will implode. Time and time again they have depended on this, and it has not worked. They must use momentum. They must lead. Every day the Republicans paint stark differences based on disinformation and false choices. It’s about time the Democrats also paint stark differences, but based on ample evidence and substantive issues. If the Democrats are incapable of crafting an effective message out of the rubble that is this administration’s track record, then they don’t deserve to continue as a national party.
October 10th, 2006 at 4:11 pmRush says it’s all Clinton’s fault.
October 10th, 2006 at 4:20 pmNever mind that zeroplutonium was enriched
during Clinton’s service, nor did he pay them $95M to quit.
He talked to them.
I guess I can understand why other leaders don’t care to
talk to Bush. I mean, how long can one bear a chimp waving
his arms like he’s going to say something?
But, good ‘ol Rush takes it even further…today he’s saying
the Foley scandal was timed for release by the Democrats
to throw a wrench in the election!
Rush, didn’t you have a wrench thrown in your erection?
Ah, election?
I’d like to know what the f–k he’s going to do about it???????????
Send the boyscouts??????????
October 10th, 2006 at 4:21 pmI would do the same thing if my name was next on the Axis of Evil list after Iraq.
Comment by Jebus+loves+me — October 10, 2006 @ 3:32 pm
Me too…
It’s pretty clear that Bush with his god complex thinks he can threaten people and they are just supposed to take it. What an egocentric moron!
October 10th, 2006 at 4:35 pmWith an observation regarding Bush Limbaugh, he is like the sneaky, manipulative, and extremely fearful weak child who always encourages the big bully on the playground, thereby gaining the protection of the bully.
October 10th, 2006 at 4:36 pmAmerica, under the thrall of the bully pack entrenched at the white house has become the bully of the planet.
Bullies always become the target, and rarely last long before they are brought down on their backs in defeat.
The “friends” of such bullies also soon leave when they see the bully begin to fall.
Limbwhaaa will, within 2 years, be blaming G. Dubious Bush for his own and America’s woes. If he is still on the air.
Getting buy-in through 6 party negotiations, building coalition. Giving more responsibility to China, Japan, South Korea (countries that have non-military influence over N. Korea). Sounds like a progressive solution. The only problem for everyone here, is, it’s the Bush Administrations idea. Secretary Rice did an outstanding job of not blaming Clinton for the failure to stop N. Korea’s nuke program. She also did a good job of explaining why bilateral negotiations did not work. We would give N. Korea some incentive, they would lie to us and continue the program. We would have no recourse. With buy-in from China, Russia, Japan and South Korea, there would be a much more significant
October 10th, 2006 at 4:37 pmchance for sanctions to work. You have to wonder, if N. Korea is so threatened and upset with the U.S., why do they insist on bilateral negotiations with us?
So, what’s the next “goal post move” going to be – we will not allow NK to blow up anymore countries after what they did to South Korea?
October 10th, 2006 at 4:39 pmIt’s like drawing a line in the sand, having the guy step over it, then drawing another line. Talk about your appeasers.
America’s Least Wanted
http://www.antiwar.com/solomon/?articleid=9824
October 10th, 2006 at 4:42 pmhes full of shit, everyword he says is full of it
he wanted this so to spend more money on war support
the world really cannot wait
The aircraft carrier Eisenhower, accompanied by the guided-missile cruiser USS Anzio, guided-missile destroyer USS Ramage, guided-missile destroyer USS Mason and the fast-attack submarine USS Newport News, is, as I write, making its way to the Straits of Hormuz off Iran. The ships will be in place to strike Iran by the end of the month. It may be a bluff. It may be a feint. It may be a simple show of American power. But I doubt it.
October 10th, 2006 at 4:48 pmGiving more responsibility to China, Japan, South Korea (countries that have non-military influence over N. Korea). Sounds like a progressive solution. The only problem for everyone here, is, it’s the Bush Administrations idea. Secretary Rice did an outstanding job of not blaming Clinton for the failure to stop N. Korea’s nuke program.
Clinton stopped the enrichment, Bush reignited it by calling them an Axis of evil and cutting of the oil as part of the framework agreement. Rice could not blame Clinton because Bush has done much more to allow Korea to create the supposed nuke they just tested here in 2006
Do you recall N Korea testing a nuke under Clinton Paul?
And please drop your Darvo tactics
October 10th, 2006 at 4:51 pm#28 Your question should be looked into further by TP. N. Korea has nothing but the prospects of a nuke. They have no other bargaining chip and the leader is a nutbag. But he’s a nutbag that’s in contridiction with himself. Most isolated countries, the leader loves western’s, poptarts and other western trappings. He is pushing with the only thing he has in hopes of getting something from the west. What that is I’m not sure but N. Korea has anounced each time they took a step further. that’s not an action by a country wanting to start a nuclear war. That’s somebody advertising every step of the way in hopes of getting one on one dialogue with the US.
October 10th, 2006 at 4:57 pmSo where is the quote of Bush saying: ‘well, I guess we’re going to have to settle for this.’?
October 10th, 2006 at 4:58 pmGetting buy-in through 6 party negotiations, building coalition. Giving more responsibility to China, Japan, South Korea (countries that have non-military influence over N. Korea). Sounds like a progressive solution. The only problem for everyone here, is, it’s the Bush Administrations idea.{deny} Secretary Rice did an outstanding job of not blaming Clinton for the failure to stop N. Korea’s nuke program. {attack} She also did a good job of explaining why bilateral negotiations did not work. We would give N. Korea some incentive, they would lie to us and continue the program. We would have no recourse. With buy-in from China, Russia, Japan and South Korea, there would be a much more significant
chance for sanctions to work. You have to wonder, if N. Korea is so threatened and upset with the U.S., why do they insist on bilateral negotiations with us? {Reverse}
Comment by paul
Last time Paul;
Pyongyang threatened to pull out of the nuclear deal
The US Government has announced that it will release $95million [Bush] to North Korea as part of an agreement to replace the Stalinist country’s own nuclear programme, which the US suspected was being misused.
Under the 1994 [Clinton] Agreed Framework an international consortium is building two proliferation-proof nuclear reactors and providing fuel oil for North Korea while the reactors are being built.
[Bush cut off the fuel in 2002]
In releasing the funding, President George W Bush waived the Framework’s requirement that North Korea allow inspectors to ensure it has not hidden away any weapons-grade plutonium from the original reactors.
Lemme condense that;
President George W Bush waived the Framework’s requirement that North Korea allow inspectors to ensure it has not hidden away any weapons-grade plutonium from the original reactors.
Bush waived the inspection requirement Paul, can you get that thru your head?
October 10th, 2006 at 4:59 pmWhy, again, is this news that Bush said something that he didn’t follow through with?
October 10th, 2006 at 5:01 pm#34.. how about this one he settled for:
October 10th, 2006 at 5:01 pm“Bring ‘em on”
Steve
It is their right to vote in an online poll just like anyone else, all they are doing is widening the sample, making the poll that much more credible.
October 10th, 2006 at 5:02 pmI haven’t see that posted on this thread.
October 10th, 2006 at 5:03 pmInteresting thing though, compare this YES response:
Well informed people, and people who don’t have a wierd crush on the monkey evidently vote yes, stupid people who have no idea what happened within their own life-times, vote no.
October 10th, 2006 at 5:05 pm-Paul Craig Roberts
October 10th, 2006 at 5:10 pmYeh I read a few of those myself at the site Bruce, its amazing. The pro-bush votes are so far out of reality it’s scary.
They also seem to be very young and get their information thru the TV only. The no voters seem alot like George in that they don’t read.
Maybe the site,worstpresever, should put a checkbox asking,”Did/Do you read the Tim LaHaye ‘Left Behind’ series of books?”
October 10th, 2006 at 5:15 pm#41. Which countries began the pursuit of nuclear weapons after feeling threatened by Bush?
October 10th, 2006 at 5:19 pmPaul #28
October 10th, 2006 at 5:23 pmNK wants bilateral talks with the US precisely because we are the ones
they see as threatening their existance. They want specific promises
from us that we won’t attack them. And in what way do you see 6 party
agreements as being more effective than a bilateral agreement? Just
the other day all six parties warned them not to test and we see how
well that worked. The obstinance of the Bush admn to even consider
bilateral talks boggles the mind. Every month without an agreement is another month for them to continue their weapon pursuits completely unrestrained.
Korean test ‘went wrong,’ U.S. official says
The U.S. believes North Korea tried to detonate a nuclear device and “something went wrong,” a government official told CNN Tuesday. The official confirmed North Korea told China before the test that it would be a 4 kiloton device. The official added the unexpectedly small blast, of a half kiloton or less, indicates the test was not very successful.
http://www.cnn.com
October 10th, 2006 at 5:59 pmI think Bush and Lil Kim should take each other on in a pig wrestling contest.
October 10th, 2006 at 6:32 pmThe winner would get to build nukes, the loser would have to BBQ the pig.
I hear GW likes his BBQ. Or is a pig, I forget which.
Remember when republicans used to say, “if he lied about sex, I can’t believe anything he says…”
October 10th, 2006 at 7:10 pm#44. onoclea. we tried bilateral negotiations and they didn’t work. I believe what Pyongyang wants is an agreement with the U.S. that it can break with immunity. We would enter into this agreement, give up the inducements, then begin to press for verification. N. Korea would balk. Then any action we would take would take to gain compliance would make us look like the agressor. The 6 way talks are more effective because it takes that tool away from the Koreans. If Koreans fail to comply, the world will look to China and the other 4 to address the issue. Buy-in. Everyone here regrets we didn’t get it for Iraq, it’s still a good idea now. Can anyone tell me how Korean would not benefit from 6 way talks.
October 10th, 2006 at 8:06 pmToday my blog is about how Howard Dean in ‘03 and John Kerry in ‘04, talked about the North Korea problem.
They knew who had WMD, and that NK would be the most serious threat to the future of the world.
Eh, but what do they know!
http://comlogic.blogspot.com/
October 10th, 2006 at 9:24 pm#35 Paul was against diplomacy before he was for it.
October 10th, 2006 at 9:44 pm#48 Bi-lateral negotiations worked under Clinton but not under Bush. Why do you think that is?
October 10th, 2006 at 9:45 pmKim Jong Il is a crazy ass bastart, but hey we got…..um , oh shit.
October 10th, 2006 at 9:46 pmTP,
Shouldn’t that be NOOK-U-LER?
October 10th, 2006 at 10:19 pm#54 Nope that should be young page nookie-lure.
October 10th, 2006 at 10:50 pmJPark,
Oh my god…that is soooo funny!
October 10th, 2006 at 11:13 pm#56 Thanks Zooey!! I was hanging out with that joke. Not sure if it would hit :)
October 10th, 2006 at 11:28 pmI commend you on your excellent timing, JPark. I’m glad I could be your straight woman this evening.
October 10th, 2006 at 11:33 pmYea, straight women are the best. Thank you Zooey!
October 10th, 2006 at 11:35 pmDeclaration:
The following material is certified AB+ (Anti-Bush plus).
Eminem’ name is used purely for comic relief, it is not
related to Eminem in any way.
The following is purely author’ opinions and in no way
intends to target or abuse related person(s).
The Bush-take (Eminem feat)
—————————
Act I:
Jumble in the sunshine state
Haunts back to rock the American fate
The Land of the brave and the free,
Day on day, finds caged, brought to knee.
The perfect recipe cooked by the bushes
Mixed up with right lies and wrong pushes
Looks like brawl of the drunken monkey
Messy remake of B-Grade Hollywood quickey.
Fact II:
Wo(Men) of honor, subject’ to rule of bush-fix
Are like zzzombie’ sleeping in the matrix.
Content to be slaves of a pedestrian prez;
This is your last chance, wake up or raze!
Need a pied piper to wring out the hoodlums
Bury them under the Yucca, by their nuke scumz
I mean, how much more can you get, blind
How can you put up with such mindless grind?
Enact III:
Askance,
Ya da ya da ya da, do I mesmerize you in new clothes?
Da di dum da, holier than fourth of july fireworks
Dum da, let me avenge your(my) mom’s/dad’s enemies
Howdy da howdy da, howdy, howdy, cowboy’ tricks
Good riddance,
To run behind the bush, ain’t it not American enough
Might of the millions, brought to nought
Somebody stop the free fall, somebody scream ‘n’ lead
The Emperor lusts greed, The Emperor is naked indeed!
Re-Act IV:
Nail it on to ya head, stick it atop ya bed
The Emperor has no shame, The Emperor is indeed wretched!
Make it ya anthem, make the right choice ya week ahead
Remember! The Emperor is sick head, The Emperor is naked!
Pro-Act V:
Realize The Mis-take….
Pulverize The Mis-fix…
–pK
October 10th, 2006 at 11:58 pmSpot on!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?eurl=&v=7h3GPc_yMCE
October 11th, 2006 at 12:43 amThanks Progs!! If only the friendly “carrot and carrot ” approach of the kindly Bill Clinton and the gullible Madame Secretary Albright had been followed in the subsequent administration, the Petite Moron in North Korea could have developed his rudimentary nuclear weapon, continued selling weapons to Iran, Pakistan and God-knows who else, continued conterfieting US currency AND laundering money – - BUT they would have “liked” us MORE. Oh Joy!!!
Naturally, progs dislike discussing the relentless drive of NK to pursue an atomic weapon policy which was proceeding during the previous administration – and could not be plactated no matter what. Progs whine, “Those two-party talks ought to do the trick.” But remember, symbolism to a prog is paramount – substance is a distant second…..
October 11th, 2006 at 1:50 amplease please please, poppa Bush (THIS MEANS YOU, G.H.W. BUSH)–stop the madness!! SOMEBODY ARRANGE AN INTERVENTION.
October 11th, 2006 at 11:34 amC’mon folks, the one’s that want daddy Bush to take over. GW is just a puppet. All of daddy Bush’s people are running the gov’t. Daddy Bush is in charge.
October 11th, 2006 at 1:13 pmDamned if you do, damned if you don’t….
Proving once again that President Bush is wrong no matter what he does, the left is calling him out on failing to stop North Korea from acquiring a nuclear device, or as they like to say MANY nuclear devices. Do you think if he had done something mil…..
October 11th, 2006 at 3:00 pmWow!
Mighty (the great attorney, mother, “bringin’ home the bacon, fry it up in a pan” every woman) Aphorodite…
…is up and about at 1:50 a.m…
…Where’s Mr. Hermaphrodite?
…Trouble in paradise perhaps?
hmmmm….
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October 11th, 2006 at 6:28 pmNO one cares what the NAZI leader has to say anymore,unless he has an invasion planned for their country. Everything said by BIG A-HOLE means nothing it’s all lies and/or propaganda and the whole world knows it.
October 11th, 2006 at 8:40 pm[...] We will not tolerate a Nuclear North Korea…Â Bill points out that the counties in the Axis of Evil are now stronger then they were when the speech was made – except Iraq – it is just more fucked up. [...]
October 14th, 2006 at 12:26 amBush invaded Iraq against the wishes of the majority and with no proof of his rationale. N Korea informs the world of of it’s step by step process of creating nuculear weapons and now has even tested them and Bush offers them money?????????????
October 14th, 2006 at 3:12 aml