Snow Says It’s ‘Silly’ And ‘Gratuitous’ To Ask If Bush Made Any Mistakes On North Korea
Snow Says It’s ‘Silly’ And ‘Gratuitous’ To Ask If Bush Made Any Mistakes On North Korea
The Washington Post reported that North Korea’s apparent nuclear test “may well be regarded as a failure of the Bush administration’s nuclear nonproliferation policy.”
Today, a reporter asked if President Bush believes he has made any mistakes with respect to North Korea. White House Press Secretary Tony Snow responded, “Oh, my goodness…it’s a silly question.” Later, he called the question “gratuitious.” Snow explained that “you need to give presidents the benefit of the doubt when national security is involved.” Watch it:
To learn about Bush’s record on North Korea, see our timeline.
Transcript:
QUESTION: Looking back, is there anything that the president would have done differently? Does he believe he has made any mistakes in this region?
SNOW: Oh, my goodness.
QUESTION: It’s a fair question.
SNOW: No, it’s a silly question.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
SNOW: Yes, it is, because…
(CROSSTALK)
QUESTION: You just talked about…
SNOW: Well, let me ask you, give me some characterization of what you might think, because what typically happens is that any answer to that question is spun into: President made mistake, regrets.
What you do as president of the United States — and I have said this repeatedly from this podium, and you need to give presidents the benefit of the doubt when national security is involved — is the very best, in their judgment, of what they can do.
Now, what will happen is over time you find out, Hmmm, that data point wasn’t right. We need to adjust. So for every adjustment, sure, in perfect hindsight you would want perfect information and therefore perfect policy.
But instead what you do have in this administration and in prior administrations is a full-on effort to do what you think, based on the intelligence and the facts available to you, that’s going to be the most effective way to secure the safety of the American people.
QUESTION: The notion that that’s a silly question, when you have a president who draws a red line three years ago and says, We will not tolerate nuclear weapons, and now you have a country that just tested a nuclear weapon, you don’t think it’s fair to ask for some accountability as to what happened and whether there were mistakes made?
SNOW: The accountability lies in North Korea, not in Washington.
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Well of COURSE Tony thinks no one should ask dumbya any questions…
I mean, the guy can hardly brush his own teeth in the morning and you are asking Tony’s opinon about asking his boss about North Korea?
fagettaboutit.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:02 pmIts silly to ask if Bush has EVER made a mistake on ANYTHING.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:04 pmmust be a bitch to have to whine about all the things the people he is the mouthpiece for have done? sell them reactors, give them 95Mil to build reactors to make weapons, pull the inspectors so they can make weapons, and then whine about it when they pretend to blow one up?
this is the funniest crap of all. our government has no credibility at all. They are cutting each others throats to get on top of the pile of shit thinking it smells better from on high
wonder if anyone would ever tell the truth again?
October 10th, 2006 at 2:04 pm“Oh, my goodness…it’s a silly question.â€
Tony Snowjob
Is it just me, or is this smooth talking, slick-assed prick is starting to sound like Donald Rumsfeld?
October 10th, 2006 at 2:04 pmScrew it… we should just elect these guys to the White House and give up…
Herman B. Hayes and Michael Gregory Steele
Sheeeeeeeeeeesh
October 10th, 2006 at 2:05 pmIt is silly and gratuitous (and, frankly, probably treasonous) to ask any questions at all about Bush’s actions, misactions, or nonactions. What I am wondering is why the White House should even bother holding press conferences any more.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:06 pmDidn’t just about everyone, including Dems and media, give him the benefit of the doubt on Iraq? Sorry, Tony, what did your leader once say — “Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.” You should listen to your boss more often.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:06 pmyou need to give presidents the benefit of the doubt when national security is involved
Ummm… no, you don’t.
Do these guys have any idea what being President actually means, apart from fluffing the rolled-up sock in the First Flight Suit?
October 10th, 2006 at 2:06 pmGive the President the benefit of the doubt?? Sure. Just like they did with Clinton.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:10 pmApparently Tony Snow doesn’t share the view of Theodore Roosevelt:
October 10th, 2006 at 2:11 pmI don’t know which is a worse propagandist: Baghdad Bob or Tony Snow.
The president is not a king; he is not an emperor; he is not a god. The president is responsible to the people of the United States. We have every right and every reason to question the effectiveness of the “strategy” that the Bush Administration has been following with North Korea, given that NK is now testing atomic bombs. Criticize Clinton all you want - but he left the NK nuclear program (literally) frozen. All of the Clinton administration’s hard work is now for naught because of the gross incompetence of the Bushies.
2008 can’t get here fast enough for me. Here’s hoping that in November we can at least slow down the damage that is being done daily by this horrible president.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:11 pmBeing the president is hard work. He doesn’t have time to answer silly questions like that!
October 10th, 2006 at 2:11 pmthat would have been a silly question back in the day, but for an administration who champions pre-emptive attacks based on minimal and/or shady intel, that’s an entirely relevant question
October 10th, 2006 at 2:11 pmwhy the White House should even bother holding press conferences any more.
Comment by RealScientist
I have often wondered that myself. Its all just a show.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:12 pmThe American public has been giving Bush the “benefit of the doubt” for 6 years. Time for it to end.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:13 pmNoticing that his utterance included saying:
October 10th, 2006 at 2:13 pm“… you need to give presidents the benefit of the doubt when it comes to national security.. etc…..”
NOTICE he doesn’t say we need to give Dubious himself the benefit of the doubt….
George DUBIOUS Bush was given the benefit of the doubt when he pled his case for going to war in Iraq,. along with every other matter of significance he has addressed in the course of his failed presidency.
And he has been wrong and in error consistently in every one.
The backroom boys took the training wheels off lil’ georgies bike too soon, methinks…. or maybe he was unfit for the role they had for him to begin with……….
Translation …
Leave the fancy governin’ stuff to us neocons. Go back to your peasant lives until we write something for king george to say to all you lowly people.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:15 pmThose who don’t learn from history are doomed to be George W. Bush.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:18 pmListening to the Chimperor opine about how North Korea disregarded the will of the international community this morning, I started wondering how exactly he must sound to that same international community. Why should anyone believe a word he says anymore? He’s pathetic. And an embarrassment to the nation.
Worst. President. Ever.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:18 pmPlease, whoever is leaving comments directing people to my site, stop it! We do our own promotion, and I have seen too many links to us here. Think Progress is one of my favorite reads, and I do not want people to think that it is us who are using it to promote our project. Thanks.
As for the topic at hand…good grief…now I feel bad about questioning the President. Maybe I will stop, since Tony wants me to. Ugh.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:19 pmIf the WH press corps, moreover the editors they work for, had a shred of integrity between them, they would stop attending these “press conferences” altogether, and leave Snowball (some say that’s the term for the passing of seminal fluid orally from one sex partner to another) to stand out in the rose garden, or anywhere else, all by his arrogant self. Just stop going, all one can get there is the narrated edition of the daily press release anyway. The press, allegedly free, should be able to do at least that by way of saying “hey, you guys, we are not your official PR stenographers. But they won’t stop, they’ll just keep going, and transcribing, because their bosses are sold-out cowards and careerists, not journalists, not caretakers of the fourth estate, and not patriots to our Constitution. They are snowballers.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:19 pmLet’s call him Bagdad Tony and continue to ridicule the whole bunch of imcompetent pie in the sky propagandists . More meat for J Steward and Colbert .
October 10th, 2006 at 2:22 pmTony the SnowJob is right.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:22 pmBush has never made a mistake. Just ask him.
Interesting article in Mother Jones about Bush releasing $95 mil to North Korea in nuclear funds in April 2002, just months after he had declared NK part of the “axis of evil”. What’s the credibility rating of this?
October 10th, 2006 at 2:23 pmThe reporter’s questions as well as the comments on this site seem to be laying blame on Bush for what’s happening in North Korea. As snow points out, the finger should be pointed at North Korea, not Bush or Clinton.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:24 pmYeah, silly and gratuitous. Trying to backtrack why the United Sates is in one of it’s most perilous situations in history, that sounds silly to ask about. This guy is a hack. Thsi administration will never take responsibility for their actions.
http://www.getsomejosh.com
October 10th, 2006 at 2:27 pmSure Fever. We’re 6 years into the Bush administration. 6 years ago, Bush rebuffed Colin Powell, who wanted to continue the Clinton program which had frozen N. Korea’s nuclear program, and walked away from ongoing talks. Then, he isolated them calling them part of the “Axis of Evil” and wouldn’t talk with them. He still won’t talk to them.
But, evidently in your mind, what a president of the U.S. does or decides has no bearing on anything that may happen in the future.
Is there no argument too strange or bizarre for Bush apologists to use to protect their naked emperor?
October 10th, 2006 at 2:30 pmTony Snow is certified silly and stupid > enough said.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:32 pmHow much benefit of the doubt does George Bush need for his failures? Can you give us an estimate on that, Tony?
October 10th, 2006 at 2:36 pmJoe-six-pack…..my thoughts exactly. Snow did sound just like Rumsfeld. ( you know they have constant meetings on what adjectives and propaganda words to use ) Have you noticed that for years one of the GOP Rovian tactics has been to answer back using the words ridiculous and silly in many many scenarios? It is the tactic that makes people rock back on their heels. It worked then. Now it is not working. And people are on to it. There is NOTHING “SILLY” about asking whether the president of the United States make mistakes regarding Korea. These people are rotten to the core. There is nothing silly about that…..it is a tragedy for the US
And another thing. Is it just me or are other people getting really really ANGRY?
October 10th, 2006 at 2:37 pmSo is that why Bush ignored the PDB?
What a pathetic excuse Tony.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:37 pmTony Snow is a disgrace. As an American I am embarressed by what this country has become through letting these guys RULE.
SICKENING.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:40 pmQuite a gig Tony Snowjob has.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:42 pm1. Get talking points from Rove & Cheney.
2. Have press eh,(gaggg, choke, cough hack…) conference.
3. Deliver talking points
4. Ignore questions with ludicrous comebacks.
5. Pick up paycheck with mouth from inside George’s pants.
s -
October 10th, 2006 at 2:44 pmOh, is that what they’re doing, ruling?
I thought it was called screwing over everbody but their rich buddies!!
So it’s official. The Bush admin believes it is “silly” and “gratuitous” to ask that our democartically elected, public officials remain accountable and open to the public that employs them.
Wow. Just more proof that modern Republicans spit in the face of the country and its democracy.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:44 pmS: “Is it just me or are other people getting really really ANGRY?”
Your right. I think Howard Beal said it best: “I’m mad as hell, and I’m not gonna take it anymore!”
In loving memory of Howard Beal, we need to run republicans out of congress and bring the hammer down on our deeply compromised national media.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:46 pmHow much benefit does doubt have, anyway?
October 10th, 2006 at 2:47 pmProbably not enough to excuse these lying jackasses.
The only silly thing about this is that the reporter actually expected a legit answer. Silly little reporter…
October 10th, 2006 at 2:48 pmAmerica’s Least Wanted
If I were a White House Press Corpsman, I’d show up to each press conference with a paper bag over my head.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:50 pmNo need for eye or ear holes, just the paper bag.
RUcurious: yes. They are Screwling us.
These pompous jack asses are:
condescending, juvenile, spoiled, immoral, greedy, selfish, sneaky, cruel, shallow, brutal,incompetant, irresponsible, stupid, grasping, and cowardly thugs. It’s a BAD COMBO.
and…….what does that say about America?
October 10th, 2006 at 2:53 pmtom baker said: “If the WH press corps, moreover the editors they work for, had a shred of integrity between them, they would stop attending these “press conferences†altogether”
I think that’s a fine idea, but it would be even better if they showed up, asked a question, and then, as soon as Snowball failed to answer or changed the subject or answered a different question than the one asked, they all stood up and just filed out, laughing at him as they went.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:53 pmOops, forgot to finish my previous post.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:54 pmThen, when Tony opened his mouth, I’d repeat my name.
this damn president doesn’t deserve the “benefit of the doubt” on any issue
October 10th, 2006 at 2:55 pmGeorge W. Bush SHOULD be given the “benefit” of the “doubt” on his job as president:
…he did the best he could do on Katrina…
…it “benefitted” White folks who didn’t want uprooted Blacks to return to N.O., Halliburton and other (NO BID) corporate cronies…
… and the Black diaspora of New Orleans “doubts” Bushiva could’ve done any better…
…he did the best he could on Iraq and it “benefitted” Halliburton (especially Cheney), Bechtel, GE, Exxon-Mobil (and the list goes on)…
…and the dying Iraqis, G.I.s and the thinking American people “doubt” he could’ve done any better…
…he did the best he could to ignore N. Korea and demonize Iran and it has “benefitted” both their nuclear programs…
…and we ALL should “doubt” whether he could have done any better given his penchant for screwing up any and everything he touches…
So there’s no “doubt” that impeaching then prosecuting this bastard (and his cronies) will certainly “benefit” us all in the long run…
October 10th, 2006 at 2:56 pmSnowjob is just begging for a Special Comment on Countdown, isn’t he?
October 10th, 2006 at 2:56 pmC/V 2008
October 10th, 2006 at 2:58 pmOr a slapdown from the pro wrestler of our choosing?
You know. It’s time to really consider that those reporters might be experiencing something related to Stockholm syndrome. They just have been up close to the shit for too long and have internalized the “electric fence” which they are expected to go around in these press conferences. They don’t even fully know they are failing at their jobs anymore. It’s “in the air” or just the “unwritten rule” that you don’t go certain places. And it’s based on self preservation and wish to keep ones job. There ought to be term limits for WH press corp.
October 10th, 2006 at 2:59 pmLike 3 months tops.
what kind of question is that, you silly, silly man!?
October 10th, 2006 at 2:59 pm“this administration and in prior administrations… based on the intelligence and the facts available to you,… the most effective way to secure the safety of the American people.”
Tony, Did the president make a mistake by not using the intelligence and facts that were available to him?
Tony, Was the president’s strategies most effective in securing the safety of the American people?
Tony, Are the American people safer now?
October 10th, 2006 at 3:01 pmFever #25
…we know, your god Bush can do no wrong…
…those evil old N. Koreans just want nuclear weapons cause they hate our way of life…
…they want to kill us cause we’re ‘merkins’…
…they didn’t even hear your god Bush call them an “axis of evil”…
…they couldn’t possibly know that your god invaded Iraq…
…silly N. Koreans, of course they’re to blame for developing nuclear weaponry…
…in the face of your god Bush’s harmless, friendly overtures toward them…
October 10th, 2006 at 3:04 pm#27
Fine, Snow gave a stupid answer to the question but let’s not forget that a nuclear weapons prorgam doesn’t get created in on night or one administration for that matter. Todays Wall Street Journal has a timeline of events and Clinton’s administration should receive plenty of blame as well. It just seems like a waste of effort to lay blame and play politics when everyone’s life depends on our response to North Korea, not our ability to finger-point.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:13 pmWOW….
Everyone is capable od criticism, but I haven’t seen any suggestions.. Do you have a solution? Do you think we should invade North Korea, and make them do what we want? Tell me, WHAT would YOU do?
It’s one thing to play armchair quarterback, it’s another with 1/2 ton worth of people bearing down on you to smear you into the ground.
If you want to complain, at least be grown up enough to complain, while offering suggestions.
Mine is, freeze all North Korean assets in this country, forbide all trade with North Korea, 100% sanctions against North Korea, and every country that is doing business with em.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:14 pmIt’s not Bush being irresponsible…it’s YOU a**holes!
October 10th, 2006 at 3:17 pmwe don’t and won’t give “the president” the benefit of the doubt on national security matters. he’s THE DECIDER. he decided to not pursue talks with NK. he decided to blow off clinton’s progress and position when he stole the election in 2000. he decided that “diplomacy takes time - see c&l link here http://www.crooksandliars.com/ 2006/ 10/ 10/ cnns-malveaux-on-north-korea-with-bush/
October 10th, 2006 at 3:20 pmthis smarmy president is a condescending smart ass when people try to give him advice and he pooh-pooh’s their intellect but when something HE DECIDED goes south (as some many of THE DECIDER’s choices and decisions have), then snowjob “the fox” tony instructs us that we “need to give him the benefit of the doubt”.
tony - you are such a propagandist shill hack.
No, actually it is the President who should give us, the American public, the benefit of the doubt when it comes to National Security Issues.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:24 pmCome on guys. We living in “WAR OF TERROR”. Some countries terrorise others, some blam others terrosist. It’s such funny days, we able to use “terrorist” for everything. When you don’t agree with me, you want to call me “terrorist”. I see one thing properly to blame Bush. He & BinLaden is two ppl define our world like today - WORLD OF TERROR.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:25 pmSo you guys should deal with some terror events, take it easy like got a “RED” in an airport. Strip our clothes, go throu X-rays, check non-flight list, and our life still continue…
Comment by WhiffleballTony ,
what a useless post. My suggestion is go back and get a grade school education.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:28 pm“WHAT would YOU do?”
Well, Dougie I can at least tell you that I wouldn’t have cut off all ties then dared them to act against our wishes by calling them “Evil”.
You should know that there was a plan in place that allowed the US govt visual access to their Nuclear facilities which kept them from producing weapons. Guess who is responsible for ending such capabilities?
Guess who is responsible for going into Iraq and making us that much more vulnerable to the whim of our actual enemies?
3 guesses and your first 2 don’t count.
You expect us to give suggestions when it is usually as simple as doing the opposite of whatever Bush does. This is not just Bush-bashing, it is simply true.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:34 pmDouglas G. #52
…you ignorant, arrogant al Cracker Bushite…
…I say freeze all your assets and ship your dumb ass to the DMZ…
…look, you al Cracker imperialists have to STOP thinking you own the friggin’ globe…
…antagonizing N. Korea and Iran is ONLY going to inflame (already meltdown) anti-U.S. sentiment and lead to attacks and war and more killing…
…have you dumb ass al CrackerBushites ever entertained the idea of “leading by example”…
…actually showing the world that you’re serious about disarmament, and mutual respect for other sovereign nations?
NOOOOO! That’d be “weakness”, and the mighty al Cracker can’t afford to look weak…
…you people are asking for it!
October 10th, 2006 at 3:36 pmthis is really a mockery of the democratic system. Can anyone even bear to watch a press briefing anymore? The script is always written the same: moderate to tough questions then suggestions that said questions are useless exercises……I’m on the end of my rope with this crew……..I started out in full on Bush hate mode (think KOS), then moved into noble progressive phase, now I have become critical of ANYTHING government proposes to do on any level, especially in the foreign policy realm……..Problem is, we have more of the same come 2008 from both parties.. No one will propose to be fiscally responsible, prudent when it comes to foreign affairs and strong on individual liberty because we are all slaves to 9/11.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:46 pmMy suggestion is that we stop this ridiculous policy of not talking with people we don’t like. Let’s see, we’re not talking with leaders in Iran, NK, Hamas, Hezbollah, Cuba, and how many others? With so much at stake, it’s even more important to have a dialogue with enemies. Not speaking to your enemies because you don’t like them is the height of petulance.
Economic sanctions only punish people who are already starving. Haven’t the North Korean people been punished enough?
As for their less-than-glorious leader, when an animal is backed into a corner is when it’s most dangerous.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:52 pmDouglas, just how much do yout hink the North Koreans have invested in the US that we can freeze? How much trade do you think we actually do with North Korea? Your thoughts sound good on paper, but I think it’s akin to seizing the assets of a homelsss person.
How about this 1) we look into what works. We had a negotiating stance during the Clinton years and a hard line stance during the Bush years. The Clinton years had talks but little hard line action. The Bush years have had zero talks and all ahrdline actions. They now apparently have at least the ability to manufacture these weapons. So what we have doen the last few years has nto worked as well as advertised. Please do not say Bush has negotiated. DIctating terms is not negotiation. What the Bush team wants is to dictate the terms, then they will negotiate after the desired results are achived, same with how they approach Iran. At that point what does North Korea have to discuss? 2) Bring South Korea, China and Japan into the picture as the main negotiators, afterall they are closest and are at the greatest risk. We should be taking a secondary seat and allow the regional powers to work it out.
Fever…Would the reporter have been out of line to ask a followup question along the lines of ” Please explain how that is silly and gratuitous, and why can’t we look at what we have done? Afterall we need to know what we have doen that got us to this point”
October 10th, 2006 at 3:53 pm#61 - My suggestion is that we stop this ridiculous policy of not talking with people we don’t like…
Even James Baker agrees that it’s not a sign of weakness to talk with people you don’t like.
But in the Frat House Emperor George learned only one way, his way.
Spoiled brats have dismantled this country and any shred of democracy we once had.
October 10th, 2006 at 3:57 pmI still think Tony Snow used to be know as Troy McClure…
http://www.defworld.blogspot.com
October 10th, 2006 at 3:59 pmYes, how DARE we ask questions about the president’s performance?
After all, we are but lowly voters prostrate at the foot of the ziggurat.
High Priest Snow has chastened us all.
October 10th, 2006 at 4:00 pmWhats with the word “silly”? That word is for when you’re goofing around, not when talking about a dictator having nuclear weapons.
October 10th, 2006 at 4:12 pm“Do you have a solution? Do you think we should invade North Korea, and make them do what we want? Tell me, WHAT would YOU do? Comment by Douglas.Gâ€
Solutions: “Stay of the course” “Blame Dems” “Blame Bill” “Blame Drunk” “Blame gays”
October 10th, 2006 at 4:12 pmROTFL!!!
Whats with the word “silly”? Doesn’t Snow realize that a whimsical word like that shouldn’t be used when discussing a madman getting nuclear weapons?
October 10th, 2006 at 4:14 pmWhat you do as president of the United States — and I have said this repeatedly from this podium, and you need to give presidents the benefit of the doubt when national security is involved — is the very best, in their judgment, of what they can do.
Which was what again? Oh, yeah, call them evil and refuse to talk with them. I’m surprised that didn’t work.
At least you did your best, Mr. President. Can we please have our country back now?
October 10th, 2006 at 4:16 pmIt’s official we have rejected direct talks with north Korea…as if there was any doubt that this would be the administrations stance.
October 10th, 2006 at 4:34 pm#5, Big Ed,
October 10th, 2006 at 4:36 pmHere’s what I read on the blog you link-posted…
The difference between (Rush) and some strung out kid in the ghetto is this - Rush had a job that paid well. Jesus is more than willing to take you into his arms and forgive such indiscretion as long as you’re a contributing member of society. Otherwise, it’s just you and your crack pipe.
My God! I had never read a Reichwingnut blog. They actually believe Jesus favors those who make more money or aren’t poor!
Excuse me, I have to go vomit now…
In answer to: Comment by RealScientist — October 10, 2006 @ 2:06 pm
They have press conferences so we know what to think, of course.
October 10th, 2006 at 4:42 pm“you need to give presidents the benefit of the doubt when national security is involved.â€
Oh, my goodness. That’s one to remember for the future.
October 10th, 2006 at 4:49 pmSo, we are to trust the Republicans completely without question when it comes to National Security. Give Bush the benefit of the doubt. Asking questions is “silly.” For now. At some point it may be called treasonous, and the questioner labeled an “unlawful enemy combatant.” After all, you’re either with Bush, or you’re with the terrorists. In Bush’s War on terror, dissent is ridiculed, then outlawed.
October 10th, 2006 at 5:00 pmIt is a silly question, because the purpose of the question is similar to the question; ‘have you stop beating your wife?’ If Snow says, no he hasn’t made any mistakes, Bush is painted as unwilling to admit mistakes. If Snow says sure mistakes were made, the headline becomes: Bush admits mistakes on N. Korean policy. Reasonable progs will agree that Snow is right to dismiss the question.
October 10th, 2006 at 5:04 pm#74 paul don’t forget “McHenry Speechless” topic, I have some anwser for u.
October 10th, 2006 at 5:05 pm“Snow is right to dismiss the question.”
Paul,
So, you agree that a President should not be held accountable for his actions or lack of action for political reasons and that the Country does not deserve an honest look at the causes of a complete and utter failure?
What happened to personal accountability, or is that all just relative to the situation?
October 10th, 2006 at 5:27 pm“And while we cannot tell china not to trade with the north koreans, we can STOP tradeing with anyone who does.”
Douglas,
Considering how dear China is to Walmart and how close Walmart is to the President, I really don’t see that happening.
October 10th, 2006 at 5:31 pmSo, we went from:
“We’re not going to comment on an ongoing investigation”
-Scott McClellan
To:
“Go F yourself if you think I am going to discuss anything relavent”
October 10th, 2006 at 5:38 pm-Tomy Snow
Paul,
ok no shrink, but we may have to look into a special jacket for him, so he doesn’t hurt himself.
October 10th, 2006 at 5:54 pmBetter to pronoun you then to verb you.
October 10th, 2006 at 6:08 pmThat a real joke… The White house administration ridiculising their own people… Bush should be the next one in guantanamo… I mean, he lied, he ripped people from their freedom by using fear of a concept on his own people to justify his actions overseas on the wrong motives… I just hope the next ones will APOLOGIES for bush’s mistakes and that the U.S. get the little credibility they had back…
October 10th, 2006 at 6:10 pmI never said it was illegal to dissent withoug alternative plans, I said I was tired of seeing it. All most of the people do here is bitch. Sorry, nothing gets fixed that way.
You sir don’t use humor, and nowhere have I found you to be humorous. I find you distasteful, lacking, uneducated, and a waste of good oxygen.
All you do is belittle people, find fault, and name call.
I guess it’s too much to ask for ideas, and discussion, both may be above your intellectual level.
October 10th, 2006 at 6:11 pmUgh, Tony Snow is an idiot. I am not sure if he’s a bigger idiot than Bush. Obviously, anybody can apply for this job. What were they thinking, “oh, he works for Fox, he must be smart, let’s give him this job”. These press conferences with Snow have become a joke.
October 10th, 2006 at 6:25 pmDoes anyone has as much fun as I do when I see NBC’s reporter, David Gregory, ask that idiot Snow a question??? Is there another reason to watch these conferences?
October 10th, 2006 at 6:29 pmAt least Bush does claim to be king anymore - he’s the Pope now! Devine infallibility. Nice.
October 10th, 2006 at 6:46 pmFor Paul at #78–
Nice try, but your analogy doesn’t hold up. The question, “do you still beat your wife?” is only unfair if it is unknown whether the wife was beaten. In this case we KNOW the wife was beaten (eg, North Korea tested a nuke).
That’s assuming we all reasonably agree that 1. N Korea has nuclear capabilities, and 2. this is a BAD thing. If so, then a mistake WAS made, somewhere, through inaction, or misaction. By posing the question to Snow as the reporter does, “do you think you made a mistake” was actually more charitable than necessary. It would have been more pertinent to ask, “what was the mistake you made?”, because we all can assume there was one, if the worst case scenario (nuclear NK) was reallized.
Let’s put it another way. Suppose you crash your SUV into a telephone pole late at night. The highway patrolman then asks you why you screwed up and had an accident. It’s not a silly question, because you were the one driving, you clearly did have an accident, there was nobody else on the road, and telephone poles don’t jump in from of cars.
October 10th, 2006 at 6:52 pmhis use of the word “silly” is reminiscent of his use of the word “naughty”…
October 10th, 2006 at 7:05 pmwhat a useless post. My suggestion is go back and get a grade school education.
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Well, I suggest you drop your sense of superiority, asshole.
October 10th, 2006 at 7:51 pm#102. Dman Dee. I follow your logic. However, it would be a silly question, if, for the previous 6 years the SUV had been swarmed by a motorcycle gang of 100 liberal media types on Harleys doing everything they could to get your SUV to crash. You would probably look at the policeman and think. ‘That’s a silly question’.
October 10th, 2006 at 8:18 pmWhat did you expect? Him to say, “Yes”?
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October 10th, 2006 at 8:40 pm“I never said it was illegal to dissent withoug alternative plans, I said I was tired of seeing it. All most of the people do here is bitch. Sorry, nothing gets fixed that way.”
Do you know why nothing has been fixed? I will give you a hint…it isn’t because liberals are bitching.
October 10th, 2006 at 9:33 pm#108 Wow, are you somehow painting Republicans as victims? The same Republicans that have had complete power over the US for the last 6 years?? Let me guess, you sympathize with the Christians when O’Reilly rants against SPs and the war on Christmas. Sorry, bud, but you fat, white assholes are not the victims (and this is coming from a fat, white asshole so spare me the racism charge).
October 10th, 2006 at 9:36 pmPaul,
How did “100 liberal media types” force Bush to do nothing about North Korea? Especially seeing how far he was willing to go, media be damned, to “do something” about Iraq. Just want your logic there.
October 10th, 2006 at 9:39 pmActually, Tony Snow is a lot better at polishing turds than Scotty was. I kinda want Scotty back.
October 10th, 2006 at 9:39 pmTony, wipe your chin.
October 10th, 2006 at 10:09 pmWe’re back to that “no questioning” thing again. They truly believe that they don’t have to answer to us, don’t they? Of course, we’re really not making them answer….
October 10th, 2006 at 10:25 pm[…] The White House Spokesman, Tony Snow, pleads for everyone to stop picking on Special George: SNOW: What you do as president of the United States — and I have said this repeatedly from this podium, and you need to give presidents the benefit of the doubt when national security is involved — is the very best, in their judgment, of what they can do. […]
October 10th, 2006 at 10:53 pm[…] Asked if President Bush believes he has made any mistakes with respect to North Korea. White House Press Secretary Tony Snow responded, “Oh, my goodness…it’s a silly question.” Later, he called the question “gratuitious.” Snow explained that “you need to give presidents the benefit of the doubt when national security is involved.”read more | digg story […]
October 11th, 2006 at 8:25 am[…] Tony Snow in his ever sparkling wit and wisdom, has said that it’s “Silly” and “Gratuitious” for the American people to ask if Bush made any mistakes concerning North Korea. […]
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October 11th, 2006 at 11:52 amAt one level it IS a silly, gratutious question because on one hand Bush NEVER thinks he may have made a mistake and on the other hand it is blatantly obvious that he has the situation FUBAR. As for the comment that we need to give the president the benefit of the doubt, Snow really should be required to justify that statement, especially given Bush’s record of screwing up everything he touches.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:52 pmalmost all of you sound alike. Listen to yourselves. Take responsibility for your own actions. Hypocrites are no better than the ones they contend against for their lack of perfection. I can tell you what a good man is. Look at those who are constantly striving to improve themselves and do the best they can on their jobs. They men are considered great in their contributions, although they’re not perfect. They TRY to do their very best given the information they HAVE. If you continue on this negative path of blame and finger-pointing, you will surely accomplish very little or no success in life. WE are ALL accountable for our own mistakes, you and the President alike.
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