Report: Plane piloted by Yankees pitcher.
By on Oct 11th, 2006 at 4:58 pm
Report: Plane piloted by Yankees pitcher.
“New York Yankees manager Joe Torre says the plane that crashed into a building in Manhattan is registered to team pitcher Cory Lidle,” CNN reports. The network is also reporting that Lidle was flying the plane.
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Very messed up.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:00 pmI am the biggest Mets fan in the world. I hate the Yankees. But this is very sad.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:02 pmHow long will it take for the Republicans to blame this one on Clinton too?
October 11th, 2006 at 5:03 pmAll things considered, Lidle would rather be back in Philadelphia.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:03 pm[...] Original post by Judd Read More… [...]
October 11th, 2006 at 5:03 pmI’m a Royals fan who remembers the late 70s and early 80s and, thus, hate the Yankees with every fiber of my being.
But this is just plain sad (if true).
October 11th, 2006 at 5:05 pm–My condolences to all those families involved in this tragedy.
God Bless you Mr Lidle.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:07 pmSo whose apartment got hit and is there some connection or reason?
I’m waiting for Bush to somehow connect this to Iran . . .
October 11th, 2006 at 5:10 pmI know the Yankees have sucked lately, but geez, the guy could have talked it out with someone.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:11 pmAnd the toxicology results are……….
October 11th, 2006 at 5:12 pm#4 Badmoodman … I am going to open myself up to charges of hypocrisy (What else is new?) because early on before we really knew anything about what this crash was all about, I said it was not a laughing matter….But I gotta admit — Your post made me laugh.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:14 pmC’mon now people, all these “I don’t like the Yankees, but this is sad.” comments, what is the point? Why mention if you are a fan of the team or not. This isn’t about teams, or games, it’s about a human life. If you’re sorry, say so – but why throw in which team you root for? That is kind of in bad taste.
And let me also speak out against everyone joking about Bush somehow linking this to terrorism. You know, and I know that won’t happen. That comment is just silly, and again, it has no place when we’re talking about people dying, especially when it has nothing to do with Bush’s illegal war.
I’ve been on ThinkProgress for a while, and I’m saddened to see more and more of these one-liner comments. Everyone is trying to be a comedian. Perhaps we should think more about what we should say before we post.
I look at sites like RedState.org, and even though I think those users are incredibly wrong (be it because they are mislead, or just plain evil), at least they speak with some sort of substance – as misguided as it can be sometimes. I’m just saying I rarely see one line, comedic posts on other sites.
Let’s try to keep thinking progressively here.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:16 pmWhy do the Yankees hate America?
October 11th, 2006 at 5:20 pmAmerica’s Least Wanted
#12….So, who is your favorite team?
October 11th, 2006 at 5:20 pmI was going to ask if the president was out riding his bicycle when NORAD had to be alerted, but in light of comment 12 I won’t. Oh, oops, I just did ask. Oh well. Well was he?
October 11th, 2006 at 5:21 pmThe American stock market took a dump today because a baseball pitcher accidentally crashed his airplane into an apartment building in Manhatten.
Am I the only one troubled by this?
October 11th, 2006 at 5:22 pmFrom CNN:
First responders to the New York plane crash say an emergency call was made from the plane indicating a possible fuel problem.
Witness Henry Neimark, who is also a pilot, said he saw a plane flying at relatively low altitude which seemed to come from LaGuardia International Airport.
“It looked to me in retrospect that this was a pilot desperately trying to get back to the airport and land safely on a runway,” he said.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:23 pmThat plane went down faster than Foley on a cute page.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:24 pm#12 You’re joking right?
Go to redstate.com, then get back to me with whats on their front page.
“Base jumping is the new hanggliding.”
“maybe we should try that in New Orleans”
Yeah, they hardly ever do crass one-liners.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:26 pm#12: And let me also speak out against everyone joking about Bush somehow linking this to terrorism. – - Here’s the link to terrorism: Nothing can prevent anyone from piloting a small plane loaded with explosives (or worse) and wreaking havoc on this country if they’re willing to die to achieve their ends.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:31 pm#12 You are 100% correct, however, with this administration being such a joke, it’s hard not to take the easy one liners.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:32 pm#17 Update…The plane was actually flying out of New Jersey’s Teterboro Airport.
#18 Good one…Bad, but good.
Because, believe it or not, for some of it does matter.
You see, we sports fans are taught/conditioned/whatever to despise certain teams and, thus, their players. So much so that when one of the “enemy” players is arrested or buried to the turf or in a funk, we enjoy it. We relish it. We take every chance we can get to rip the team, mock the fans, blast the owners, and just generally bask in an admittedly dark glow of their failures.
After all, if Liddle had, say, just wrecked his motorcycle and broken his jaw, I’d laugh my ass off because he’s a Yankee. I’d do the same if a similarly non-death-inducing accident befell anyone from the Raiders, Broncos, Chargers, Twins, White Sux, Tigers, Missou Tigers, KU Jayhawks …
So when something like this does happen, it does matter to sports fans what team we root for, because we’d otherwise unleash the snark.
No offense (seriously), but you obviously don’t get that, so your moral outrage rings a bit hollow to me.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:33 pmI think #12 was a well hidden ploy to get you over to redstate. Been there, done that, enjoyed the truly sophmoric responses before I was mysteriously deleted.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:33 pmUnholy Moses,
October 11th, 2006 at 5:35 pmpray tell, why the Tigers (of Detroit)?
Didn’t mean to offend the dude with no sense of humor.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:37 pmWell, I need to get home and get ready for the Mets-Cardinals (If they play…Weather is bad in New York)
Condolences to the Lidle family.
DRxJ, good luck to your Tigers tonight.
Jane, LET’S GO METS!
October 11th, 2006 at 5:39 pmI just Xangaed about how mad I was at hime for giving up 3 runs in 1 inning, and how we never should’ve been stuck with him in the Bobby Abreu trade. Despite the fact that he’d be alive had he not been traded to us, I still feel horrible.
Cory Lidle seemed like a nice guy. :(
October 11th, 2006 at 5:39 pm#23 Leave it to a redstater to have everyone go see how dumb they are.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:39 pmAs I recall, it didn’t take more than a couple of days before dead astronaut jokes were flying around back in 1986 after the shuttle exploded. I can hear them now.
“He must have had a shitty ERA.”
“Couldn’t handle losing to the Tigers.”
Yadda yadda yadda.
Meanwhile, dozens die on our roads every day. Half a million are dead in Mesopotamia through no fault of their own. This guy’s death was a little more spectacular than average and of course there is the 911 connection, but this ball we live on is a charnel house. You can choose not to drive and flying for him was a hobby with a calculable risk factor which he chose to take. I would venture to guess that the vast majority of the dead people in the Middle East had no choice in their deaths.
October 11th, 2006 at 5:41 pm#16, the American stock market’s hiccup had nothing to do with this, it was based on poor earnings reports and hesitancy about recent surges..
October 11th, 2006 at 5:41 pmDRxJ–
Because I must detest all teams in my team’s division. Well, that and I never liked Sparky Anderson. ;-)
Seriously, though, I am rooting for them to win it all. There win over the Yanks was good to see, and I hope they’ll meet — and beat — the Mets and that overpaid asshat Beltran. And yes, I only call him that because he got what he was “worth” from a team other than KC. :-)
October 11th, 2006 at 5:42 pmNo balls
October 11th, 2006 at 5:42 pmNo strikes
One error
Exley,
October 11th, 2006 at 5:43 pmHope we can spar in about a week
Tigers vs Mets!!!
UnHoly Moses…
October 11th, 2006 at 5:47 pmyou can take solace in knowing that the Royals cost the Tigers the Central Division Championship, but alas the Twins are gone, and the Big D are still in!
sorry for hijacking the thread…..and back on topic….
October 11th, 2006 at 5:48 pmWonder what went wrong in the cockpit?
October 11th, 2006 at 5:55 pmI still remember the Payne Stewart tragedy – everyone on board must have been dead within 20 minutes of takeoff, due to depressurization/oxygen leak, but the plane kept flying on autopilot for a couple of hours…fortunately there were no tall buildings along the flight path.
Terrible….as a Phillies fan who watched Lidle get traded to the Yanks this year, I would like to offer my sincere condolences to his family…
October 11th, 2006 at 6:04 pmStory Highlights from CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/11/plane.crash/index.html
• NEW: Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle only person aboard plane, FBI said
• NEW: Lidle’s passport found on street below crash site
• Emergency call from plane indicated a possible fuel problem
• FDNY confirms at least one person was killed
Anything sound familiar???
*** Lidle’s passport found on street below crash site ***
The media said the same thing about Mohammed Atta’s passport after the WTC events. Sounds like they’re trying to make it commonplace for passports to escape plane crashes.
October 11th, 2006 at 6:13 pmHuh, maybe we should apply the ‘Hate the sin love the sinner’ rule here.
Hate the uniform love the player.
October 11th, 2006 at 6:15 pmVery, very sad! I must point this out though …
Story Highlights from CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/11/plane.crash/index.html
• NEW: Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle only person aboard plane, FBI said
• NEW: Lidle’s passport found on street below crash site
• Emergency call from plane indicated a possible fuel problem
• FDNY confirms at least one person was killed
Anything sound familiar???
*** Lidle’s passport found on street below crash site ***
The media said the same thing about Mohammed Atta’s passport. Sounds like they’re trying to make it commonplace for passports to escape plane crashes.
October 11th, 2006 at 6:15 pmWonder what went wrong in the cockpit?
four-seat Cirrus SR20, single engine. I will speculate water in the fuel or the fuel tanks.
I wonder why the chute didn’t open…
Cirrus’s SR20 is a low-wing four-seat composite airplane best known for its incorporation of an airframe parachute, which, in the event of a midair collision or other disaster, can float the plane and its passengers down for a 1,500 fpm landing on the ground.
October 11th, 2006 at 6:25 pmOr maybe he didn’t have enough altitude for the chute to open after engine/fuel failure..
October 11th, 2006 at 6:26 pmUnfortunately, politics has devolved into this — just replacing teams with political parties. It’s just bad sportsmanship.
October 11th, 2006 at 6:29 pmThis stinks. Finding the passport is too convienient. And what happened to the reports of 2 bodies, then 4… now it’s just Lidle? What?
I did hear correctly the first time that no one in the complex was hurt or killed, right? So what’s with these conflicting, then denied reports of more than one body?
October 11th, 2006 at 6:29 pmIt also helps to abrogate a democratic society, and that’s just what these pundits and poltical hacks have turned political Ideology into, a hate fest.
Having the voters at each others throats is a good thing for politicians but it will eventually create a political state reminscient of the Germans of WWII. In fact the current administration has borrowed extensively from the works of Strauss, Schmitt, Hegel and others of the Leo-con [neo-con] AEI crowd.
October 11th, 2006 at 6:45 pmSorry Yankees!
October 11th, 2006 at 6:56 pmMy apologies to all as this is sacrilege but the devil made me do it:
“The White House just announced that because of the recent events in New York troops will be immediately sent to Bermuda to hunt down and take into custody the leader of the responsible terrorist organization. The troops will be looking for one Mister George Steinbrenner the reported mastermind and financial backer of the organization.”
October 11th, 2006 at 7:07 pmStrike!
October 11th, 2006 at 8:29 pmI guess Lidle’s habeas corpus rights are safe.
Hint…..TP.
October 11th, 2006 at 9:32 pmNot to be terribly insensitive, but who cares?
A ‘celebrity’ dies during recreation. There’s nothing political and very little socially relevant about it.
October 12th, 2006 at 6:54 aminsensitive, but you’re right. Probably lost 500 people to car accidents since this story broke.
October 12th, 2006 at 10:02 amUSAF_vet (#43) and Dog_named Boo (#45)–
You both nailed it on the head — while having a negative opinion of another team is (mostly) harmless, it stops being so when it comes to politics. But those in power (even Rove and other behind the scenes type people on both left and right) just don’t see it that way.
Instead, politics is a zero-sum game with no room for compromise or collaboration.
The enemy must be demonized because it is easier to destroy someone when you don’t consider that person an equal, or even human.
And the only thing that matters is winning. Not sportsmanship, not what’s best for the most, but winning. Period.
It truly is sad that the sense of community, the opportunity for unity, and the general good will we all had as Americans after 9/11 has been squandered in the past 5 years.
To keep with the sports theme — they squandered the lead and blew the save. And, in the end, both teams lose.
October 12th, 2006 at 11:49 amLidle was part of Steinbrenner’s attempt to buy the pennant with Abreu. The wrong man died.
October 12th, 2006 at 12:04 pm