British Army chief: ‘We must quit Iraq soon’
By on Oct 12th, 2006 at 7:53 pm
British Army chief: ‘We must quit Iraq soon’
The Daily Mail has the exclusive:
The head of the Army is calling for British troops to withdraw from Iraq “soon” or risk catastophic consequences for both Iraq and British society.
In a devastating broadside at Tony Blair’s foreign policy, General Sir Richard Dannatt stated explicitly that the continuing presence of British troops “exacerbates the security problems” in Iraq.
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Bush has got to be so pissed off at this point, his head is going to explode. how dare his underlings go against Jesus telling him to attack Iraq.
October 12th, 2006 at 7:56 pmUS UK out UN in but is Bush man enough to say that he was utterly completely wrong….sorry, that the people who tell him what to think and be passionate about and to pull convincing faces about, were wrong, and so he must be wrong too?
Is Joseph Heller writing the script of the Bush presidency (presidency…for lack of a better term).
Also trolls b4 you start its not liberals who have ’sabotaged’ vicotry in this futile conflict, its people on the ground telling you in Iraq, and its your own like Baker, and its anyone who can think for themselves without being told…..
October 12th, 2006 at 8:00 pmAt least they have some intelligence – unlike this failed-but-stay-the-failed-course administration. Two wrongs never made a “right” as far as far as I know. Getting ourselves in there for all the wrong reasons, switching objectives, having undefined “enemies” and a yet undetermined “plan” has had disaster written all over it. And the cost? American young people needlessly dying, innocent Iraqis killed in the crossfire – the human “cost”. And then try to wrap your mind around the financial cost of continuing a war which has turned into the largest quagmire in the history of this country and will, no doubt, trump even Vietnam when the history books are written about what a total failure it was. Bush will certainly have a legacy, that’s for certain, but definitely not the exaulted one he believes he deserves. Robin Williams put it pretty succinctly today on Hardball when asked what he thought of Bush. Williams replied: “Bush is the greatest “gift” to the comedy world ever!”…..’nuf said!
October 12th, 2006 at 8:03 pmI wonder if Bush will accuse Blair of “cut&run”. I guess anyone with enough sense to get out of the path of an oncoming train is seen as a coward to AWOL Bush.
October 12th, 2006 at 8:03 pmPS And will the UN who were utterly IGNORED, and coutnrys around the world who were utterly IGNORED, want to come to the rescue of the poor little US/UK?
Brilliant policy Mr Bush for a Brilliant President.
Bush said we’ll all be dead when history makes its judgement on him……Somehow I don’t think we’ll have to wait that long, Mr Worst President in History, you are going to have to live with the hukmiliation the rest of your life, you’ll be like Nixon wandering the streets begging for cups of credibility….and forgiveness
October 12th, 2006 at 8:04 pmGourney,
You are correct. Bush’s “You are either with us or with the terrorists” rhetoric will cost us dearly.
October 12th, 2006 at 8:09 pmWhy does General Sir Richard Dannatt hate our freedom?
October 12th, 2006 at 8:16 pmWhy does The Daily Mail hate Bush? I can hear O’reilly now…Who’s this far left wing kook Dannatt anyway…It’s obvious he’s just out to undermine Bush this close to an election…Much like N. Korea & Iran are trying to do…Don’t panic Blair will come yelping, tail between his legs, over to ask Bush, what we do now ooh great one. LOL
October 12th, 2006 at 8:25 pmF*cking cut and runners. Stay the bourse.
October 12th, 2006 at 8:25 pm#2
“Gourney”
To add to your point …
Baker
Schwarzkopf
Scowcroft
Shalikashvili
McPeak
Zinni
The US Army War College
Retired Generals
Even George H.W. Bush (aka 41)
Gourney is right. The Neocons defied everyone with this military misadventure. Despite good counsel from both Democrats and Republicans, military men and academics – and last, but not least, knowledgable Iraqis.
So don’t start with the “liberal wah wah wah.”
Direct your anger at where it belongs – the Neocons.
Dick Cheney
Paul Wolfowitz
Donald Rumsfeld
I. Lewis Libby
Jeb Bush
William Kristol
All part of the so-called “Project for the New American Century” – with George W. Bush presiding and Faux News “aiding and abetting.”
October 12th, 2006 at 8:27 pmall of the war criminals are trying to cover their tracks, this person sounds most able to admit the truth
October 12th, 2006 at 8:31 pmthis time the world will probably turn against us and look for war crime trials, we must not take the path of the german citizens, party member or not, that all basically said; “I know nothing” about what the rest of the country was doing.
we must assist justice.
What does the Chief of the General Staff of the British Army know about military affairs? Why can’t these meddlers mind their own business and leave military matters to the experts like, say, Dick Cheney and Rummy and Shrubby and Karl and Mark Foley and Sanitarium and Neil Cavuto and…..[head explodes]
October 12th, 2006 at 8:52 pm#10
KillerW
You’re right on the money, also we all musn’t forget that (beyond any words imaginable) Richard Perle.
Just going through the news today and the continuing revelations on every front from the economy to the war to anything you’d like to mention…
I think this Administration is about to implode.
I don’t know if Bush will be there next year, I think that he will have to resign in utter disgrace over the cynical lies (about absolutely everything) that are the foundation of this presidency.
I dont mean even impeachment either, I think that Bush will implode, health reasons, whatever you want to call it. though it will really be a terminal case of utter humiliation.
He’ll make Nixon look like a prom queen.
October 12th, 2006 at 8:56 pm#10
October 12th, 2006 at 9:05 pmand lets not forget they are a part of bohemian grove, bildaberg and skull and bones
The Brits only lost 1 man so far this month, we lost 44. Incompetent soldiers ! All of them. Who needs them.
Why dont they stop complaining and send a few more battalllions?
Were taking 5 times the amount of casualties as them per capita.
Its a shame we cant count on those people after all weve done for them
October 12th, 2006 at 9:06 pma coalition of twisted arms and the bribed can’t last forever if their hearts and minds just aren’t in it.
October 12th, 2006 at 9:12 pmtruetrue,
Which did you mean – that the UK soldiers are incompetent because they are not dying as fast as your own (death is the ultimate sign of competency?), or that the US soldier who died were incompetent?
And what, exactly, have you done for the UK in Iraq?
As a matter of fact, what have you, personally, done at all?
October 12th, 2006 at 9:15 pmBack to 1815, this is the year Nathan Mayer Rothschild makes his famous statement,
“I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls Britain’s money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply
I guess that makes it easy to see why Britain is our main accomplice in this crime spree against humanity.
October 12th, 2006 at 9:18 pmPee Wee Herman & George Bush – - Loners….rebels.
October 12th, 2006 at 9:21 pmAs a matter of fact, what have you, personally, done at all?
Comment by Nathan — October 12, 2006 @ 9:15 pm
every person could say that about every person, and this would sadly turn into a hate fest
i meant the brit soldiers were incompetent, not the american soldiers.
119 dead in 3 1/2 years ? the brits are having a picnic.
What have i done ? i pay my taxes and I support the troops. This is America, I dont NEED to do anything else.
October 12th, 2006 at 9:23 pmI guess the British want out of Iraq, before the sequal in Iran begins.
October 12th, 2006 at 9:27 pmlet’s not forget it is NOT the arabs or anyone else for that matter who has sabatoged our freedoms. it is those (zionists) running our government with nazi policies.
October 12th, 2006 at 9:32 pmWell, look at the bright side, we really won’t have to worry about turning off the lights when we leave…
October 12th, 2006 at 9:33 pmNeocon trolls on suicide watch, I almost feel sorry for them.
October 12th, 2006 at 9:34 pmtruetrue — October 12, 2006 @ 9:23 pm
“i meant the brit soldiers were incompetent, not the american soldiers.”
Christ your an idiot…So according to you the more dead soldiers = A more competent army?
October 12th, 2006 at 9:36 pmAlso the UK have a much smaller army than the U.S in Iraq.
Happy Smoker excellent point.
UK is not incompetent because less were killed. That is utter stupidity True True.
October 12th, 2006 at 9:39 pmChange the course…
October 12th, 2006 at 9:41 pmtruetrue
read number #18 again maybe that will clear up who really owns britain. i don’t think blair was that willing to along with scheme but believe he was bullied by the zionists.
October 12th, 2006 at 9:46 pmthe other trolls must have left, and left us with mr. falsefalse. Here is one thing he can do..the army needs people to walk around looking for IED’s, just walk around…easy job…
October 12th, 2006 at 9:49 pmNow that Bush will be labeling Great Britain “old Europe,” will Rummy be assembling a new “mother of all coalitions”???
October 12th, 2006 at 10:06 pmthe jews own britain?
so they forced britain to attack Iraq?
tin foil hat time.
October 12th, 2006 at 10:08 pmWhy does the British Army Chief hate freedom??
October 12th, 2006 at 10:10 pmIf we really want to win this war, I would suggest we change course and do a few things that would certainly raise a few eyebrows. My suggestions are just that—suggestions. They may not be workable, but they have entered my mind. Here they are:
1. Require everyone to be a nudist. People wearing clothes would be arrested. When the temperatures are on the cool side, people will not venture outside for long periods of time and freeze their buns off. Cool weather–less violence. It’s difficult to conceal weapons when you are nude.
2. Ban cars, trucks, and trains in Iraq. Car bombs can’t happen if there’s no cars. Our world once relied on horses and camels for transportation, and there’s no reason why Iraq couldn’t rely on horses and camels again for a few years. It would more difficult to conceal a bomb on a horse/camel. A horse/camel doesn’t have a trunk.
Regardless of what the Bush administration is saying, Iraq is in a civil war now. The above measures WOULD be highly, highly, highly, highly unorthodox, but lives would be saved. I am not a nudist nor do I own ten million horses and camels, but I certainly think that these measures would change the equation quite a bit.
These measures would not be democratic measures, but I really don’t think democracy is a realistic goal at this point.
John
October 12th, 2006 at 10:18 pm#31
the ZIONISTS. the zionist that own america. does the rothchilds ring a bell.
October 12th, 2006 at 10:30 pmI forgot to mention that my suggestions could be implemented on a case-by-case basis. Just banning clothes would be a plus. Implementing car/truck bans would be more difficult.
The economy is in shambles now. How low can it go? Less violence would restore confidence–economically.
and politically.
John
October 12th, 2006 at 10:41 pmI actually make tinfoil hats.
October 12th, 2006 at 10:49 pmsmart man whos dealing with reality not fantasy
October 12th, 2006 at 10:54 pmBS
You’re full of it. You know–BS.
True/True
You’re full of it, too. You know–BS.
October 12th, 2006 at 10:57 pm#33…If Bush and his cronies could make more money selling camels and horses than war profiteering they would go for it.
October 12th, 2006 at 10:57 pmbut I really don’t think democracy is a realistic goal at this point.
John
Comment by John+Gilpins
When was democracy a realistic goal at any point?
October 12th, 2006 at 11:19 pmIt is really nice to read you regarding Iraq as your exclusive game-country so you can have fun. Sarcastic. I know. Still racist.
#39,
LOL! LOL! LOL! Ain’t that the truth.
The Bush’s are all about making a buck. There’s nothing wrong with making a buck, but this family didn’t make money the old-fashioned way through honesty and integrity.
I sense a rising, rising, rising, rising tide of disdain for these *****************************************. You can fill in the blanks. The natives are becoming quite restless. Quite! The Bush family has no morals, and they hide behind a self-proclaimed allegiance to God.
Doro, George’s sister, has a new book out about her father. This book should really be in the comedy section of bookstores. What a piece of fiction.
John
October 12th, 2006 at 11:25 pmBush will have to consult Barney 1st, about this troubling out bursts…The cheek of a military man to question the great decider…Must have a book to promote…I’m sure the smearing campaign has been hand delivered to Fox already, for tomorrows onslaught.
October 12th, 2006 at 11:30 pmThe religeous right may be awaiting the second coming of Christ but our Second Declaration of Independence to be enacted on the Seventh Day of November in the Year of our Lord Two Thousand and Six.
Just click on Clyde below to read, pass on, and help fight for it!
October 12th, 2006 at 11:39 pm“withdraw from Iraq “soon†or risk catastrophic consequences for both Iraq and British society.â€
Me thinks the poodle doesn’t quite have the power of the shrub…..insert Peter Pace and American society and soon thereafter, you might see X-General Pace peeling potatoes somewhere….
That’s not to say that I’m not a believer in the Commander-in-Chief being able to sack a contrarian general who goes public, its just that I think our current crop of “active†generals have had their balls cut off and are doing a disservice to those that they are in charge to lead.
October 12th, 2006 at 11:57 pmI wonder what Bush’s poodle is thinking?
I wonder what the AUstralian Prime Minister John Howard, or Bush’s Hamster thinks about all this….sorry pun unintended, I know he doesn’t think….
Australia, 51 state, when are they going to sign themselves over to us? We should ask for protection money at least.
October 13th, 2006 at 1:10 am“What have i done ? i pay my taxes and I support the troops. This is America, I dont NEED to do anything else.”
And that attitude is *exactly* which got us where we are today.
You do need to do something else: think with your brain, and feel with your heart. It’s called: human.
October 13th, 2006 at 2:36 am“You do need to do something else: think with your brain, and feel with your heart. It’s called: human.
Comment by TJ — October 13, 2006 @ 2:36 am”
– you forgot to add ‘vote your conscience.’
October 13th, 2006 at 3:01 am#47
October 13th, 2006 at 3:23 amGood Lord, SiriusA, you don’t want this person *voting*, do you? Next you’ll be sayingit’s OK for people like him to breed! Luckily, people like him are so stupid they tend to die young. Anyone who thinks more deaths=more competence in *any* situation, much less a military one, is bound to find themselves choking on a bagel or some such and come to a merciful end.
You are all such a bunch of silly folk. We need to kneel down and thank our beloved newly self appointed king of America and the world, for making us all feel safe and snug. I for one am so happy to know that Iraq is now a democracy. Bush told us so yesterday. That really makes me proud to be an American. We have taken a country that had a terrible dictator and given them a democratic way of life. Silly people even though they had electricty, plumbing that worked, daily jobs to complete their non democratic lives, they are much happier now because they have democracy and democracy comes at the price of soldiers occupying their country until 2010. These people are over joyed to now have democracy, even at the price of losing 600,000 of their loved ones, it’s in the name of democracy and I am sure they are sending cards and flowers as we speak to Bush. They must know that the simple needs in life, no water , no electricty, no plumbing, no real life are simply what they have to deal with because America has given them the great gift of democracy. I have to thank this administration for it’s forsight and planning because we can all take a breath and see that Iraq is now a democracy, Bush told us so yesterday.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:04 amArmy Chief defends his Iraq comments by clarifying that he means by “sometime soon”.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:29 amSome time soon. He is really happy with the war in Iraq and feels Democracy is thriving. Thank you Bush for bringing Democracy to this country. The army chief probably wants to leave Iraq because Iraq has a democratic government. Clap, Clap! We have created a democratic government in Iraq. Bush told us so yesterday! Their is no reason for them to stay because the american government is sendiing war ships to Iran as we speak. The English know that this government will give the same gift to Iran. Pretty soon Iran will benifit just like Iraq has and they will be awarded the great gift of democracy. We really must take a moment and thank this government for the forward thinking and smart behavior that is making the world such a peacful democratic place. Thank you for making the world safe, Mr. Bush.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:54 am[...] British Army chief: ‘We must quit Iraq soon’ The Daily Mail has the exclusive: [...]
October 13th, 2006 at 7:57 amClinton used carrots on a stick to negotiate.
Bush only has a stick, no carrots.
October 13th, 2006 at 9:31 amIn America, Gen Sir Richard would be passed over for promotion and retired very quickly. You don’t say those kind of things in king bushit’s America.
October 13th, 2006 at 9:53 am#38
“I want to tell you something very clear, don’t worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.” — Ariel Sharon to Shimon Peres, October 3rd, 2001, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.
http://www.asylumgoons.blogspot.com/
and you all think that israel is our friend. they are NOT. we are doing there dirty work just like the britains. read up on the rothchilds. since you all don’t know and that is how that family wants to keep it. you need a tinfoil hat. and i suppose you think that bushco did not partake in 9/11. which is was state sponsored terror at it’s worst. norwood documents ring a bell.
October 13th, 2006 at 12:24 pmbs, please tell me more. I’ve found a site about bible bashers in Nigeria called Rothchild (they sound harmless enough to me, and surely aren’t the people you have in mind) and Norwood documents are drawing a blank. Give me some URLs, I’m interested to see whether your arguments can possibly hold any water.
October 13th, 2006 at 1:33 pmOops! my apologies, just been to asylumgoons. Gonna take me ages to trawl through this unbelievable trash. I’ll get back to you.
October 13th, 2006 at 1:46 pmOK, excuse me for being very late to the discussion but did I just read
“the brit soldiers were incompetent, not the American soldiers.
119 dead in 3 1/2 years ? the brits are having a picnic.”
I’m British you numpty and that is just unforgivable. The British army are your allies for crying out loud. Perhaps we’re not getting it full on as we’ve learnt from painful experience how to deal with insurgency / terrorist action by going in softly softly.
Correct me if I’m wrong but on the eve of the Iraq war the difference was summed up fairly clearly by each of our commanding officers. The UK fella talked about treading lightly as we were here to liberate a proud population steeped in History and civilisation. The US bloke went gung ho and was shouting about “Hammer time”.
Says it all really doesn’t it?
October 13th, 2006 at 4:48 pmWestcountryEddie, I hope you realize we are anti-Iraq-war here. Except for the occasional moronic righty.
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