“At least 135 federal employees, including a White House staff member and National Security Agency employees, bought bogus online college degrees from a diploma mill.”
Awesome!! now I can be a lawyer, just like Mighty Aphrodite, get a awesome job at DHS or DoJ, and troll the internet for teens to diddle. I’m beginning to think that this GOP program might just be right for me!
Were any of these from Yale?
Know I know where George Allen got his degree.
The really sad aspect of all of this is the one’s with the fake
degrees were probably smarter than those Ivy Leager’s who’s
Daddy’s money bought them the degree.
I know stupidity isn’t illegal, but it’s sure becoming prevalent.
[...]at least 135 government employees bought college or university degrees to use in seeking promotions or pay raises[...]
Most employers ask for proof of enrollment when an employee files to get tuition re-imbursement. I guess the federal government works in a different way. Unless these employees didn’t ask for help and just showed up one day with the diploma asking for a raise.
Doesn’t anyone double-check to make sure people have actual degrees? ::sigh::
What we need to be asking ourselves, about what passes now for “quality education” in USA, is this; How did the president get in to and graduate from the HARVARD MBA program when (ahem..) THE University of Texas at Austin Law School practically laughed him off campus when he tried to get in? I know about legacy BS and the money factor, but c’mon.
Well, you know, Clinton really started the whole thing with that “don’t ask, don’t tell policy”, and now, our leaders are afraid to ask anyone about the legitimacy of their diploma, for fear of being accused of gay-bashing.
“I don’t remember all the students in detail unless I’m prompted by something,” Tsurumi said in a telephone interview Wednesday. “But I always remember two types of students. One is the very excellent student, the type as a professor you feel honored to be working with. Someone with strong social values, compassion and intellect — the very rare person you never forget. And then you remember students like George Bush, those who are totally the opposite.”
One of Tsurumi’s standout students was Rep. Chris Cox, R-Calif., now the seventh-ranking member of the House Republican leadership. “I typed him as a conservative Republican with a conscience,” Tsurumi said. “He never confused his own ideology with economics, and he didn’t try to hide his ignorance of a subject in mumbo jumbo. He was what I call a principled conservative.” (Though clearly a partisan one. On Wednesday, Cox called for a congressional investigation of the validity of documents that CBS News obtained for a story questioning Bush’s attendance at Guard duty in Alabama.)
Bush, by contrast, “was totally the opposite of Chris Cox,” Tsurumi said. “He showed pathological lying habits and was in denial when challenged on his prejudices and biases. He would even deny saying something he just said 30 seconds ago. He was famous for that. Students jumped on him; I challenged him.” When asked to explain a particular comment, said Tsurumi, Bush would respond, “Oh, I never said that.” A White House spokeswoman did not return a phone call seeking comment.
“Yes. In thirty years you always remember the two kinds of students. One is really good. The other is a George Bush kind. Terrible. Intellectually very shallow. But more importantly immature, but lacking the sense of responsibility, compassion, always indulging in denials when he is called on in his lies. And lies came very easily to him.”
“Lots of times the students, just the eh. For example. One statement that he made still stuck with me. We were discussing how the United States Government should help the lower income group or people on the fixed pension to adjust themselves to the high energy costs during the oil crisis, to bring in the fairness into the US economic policies. And he raised the issues and he said, “People are poor because they are lazy.†Those are the lies. And he goes into ranting and all kinds of things that there are no racial discriminations in the United States because at the times the civil rights movement was still smoldering.”
In 1973, as the oil and energy crisis raged, Tsurumi led a discussion on whether government should assist retirees and other people on fixed incomes with heating costs. Bush, he recalled, “made this ridiculous statement and when I asked him to explain, he said, ‘The government doesn’t have to help poor people — because they are lazy.’ I said, ‘Well, could you explain that assumption?’ Not only could he not explain it, he started backtracking on it, saying, ‘No, I didn’t say that.’”
If Cox had been in the same class, Tsurumi said, “I could have asked him to challenge that and he would have demolished it. Not personally or emotionally, but intellectually.”
[...] My NASA brethren and I get along great because we respect the differing perspectives suit our personalities and drivers – they do not make either side better. But the tendency is for conservatives and republicans to go private sector and democrats to go civil service (and government employees also dominate the union population as well). So when you see news that civil servants have been caught with faked college degrees, those on the left laughing as if this was about Republicans (who control elected offices, not the career offices) is truly sad sight to behold. These liberals are laughing at what must be their kindred political brethren, and are just now aware of the make of the civil service community to know any better. [...]
#30 – that would be interesting if we didn’t already know that Bushco turned civil service into a patronage farm as soon as they elbowed their way into the WH. You make the mistake that people here are as dumb as the people you regularly congress with. save the smarm for someone who’ll appreciate it.
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October 12th, 2006 at 3:00 pmLol Bush must have taken that course himself!
October 12th, 2006 at 3:04 pmSinking lower…..and lower…..and lower…….
October 12th, 2006 at 3:06 pmThat explains a LOT
October 12th, 2006 at 3:06 pmAwesome!! now I can be a lawyer, just like Mighty Aphrodite, get a awesome job at DHS or DoJ, and troll the internet for teens to diddle. I’m beginning to think that this GOP program might just be right for me!
October 12th, 2006 at 3:08 pmIf it had been possible, Mr. Bush would have availed himself of the same diploma mill. Curse that Al Gore for not inventing the internets sooner.
October 12th, 2006 at 3:11 pm#5 & #6–
Hilarious!!
October 12th, 2006 at 3:12 pmHAHAHA! Oh dear, for some reason that was just really funny to me….
October 12th, 2006 at 3:16 pm*snort*
Oh god, I think I hurt myself laughing…
October 12th, 2006 at 3:17 pmWere any of these from Yale?
Know I know where George Allen got his degree.
The really sad aspect of all of this is the one’s with the fake
degrees were probably smarter than those Ivy Leager’s who’s
Daddy’s money bought them the degree.
I know stupidity isn’t illegal, but it’s sure becoming prevalent.
October 12th, 2006 at 3:18 pmI don’t know if I should laugh or cry:
[...]at least 135 government employees bought college or university degrees to use in seeking promotions or pay raises[...]
Most employers ask for proof of enrollment when an employee files to get tuition re-imbursement. I guess the federal government works in a different way. Unless these employees didn’t ask for help and just showed up one day with the diploma asking for a raise.
Doesn’t anyone double-check to make sure people have actual degrees? ::sigh::
October 12th, 2006 at 3:24 pmThey were inspired by the moronic pseudo-cowboy English-language-mangling buffoon that plays pretender Pres.
October 12th, 2006 at 3:31 pmVP Dick Cheney probably has a diploma from them > where else could that crazy creepo get a college degree?
October 12th, 2006 at 3:32 pmDo I detect a little humor here on behalf of TP?
Yeah I was considering getting my Piled Higher and Deeper degree from one of these places, and even I decided agianst it.
October 12th, 2006 at 3:41 pmThat is bullshit people get away with this crap. It makes the legitamate degrees less valuable.
October 12th, 2006 at 3:42 pmPiled Higher and Deeper degree
Comment by ForTruth
Heh.
October 12th, 2006 at 3:45 pmWhere did Brown and Chertoff get their degrees?
October 12th, 2006 at 3:52 pmThis sure explains a lot when priznit said he would surround himself with the best and the brightest.
October 12th, 2006 at 3:53 pmPost 17 oxillini > Michael Brown got his degree from the Arabian Horse Association and Chertoff purchased his from some Russian diploma mill > lol.
October 12th, 2006 at 3:56 pmWhat we need to be asking ourselves, about what passes now for “quality education” in USA, is this; How did the president get in to and graduate from the HARVARD MBA program when (ahem..) THE University of Texas at Austin Law School practically laughed him off campus when he tried to get in? I know about legacy BS and the money factor, but c’mon.
October 12th, 2006 at 4:07 pmAs a Republikan and a graduit of Whatsamatta U. and Neal and Bob University I am shocked I tell you.
October 12th, 2006 at 4:18 pmWell, you know, Clinton really started the whole thing with that “don’t ask, don’t tell policy”, and now, our leaders are afraid to ask anyone about the legitimacy of their diploma, for fear of being accused of gay-bashing.
October 12th, 2006 at 4:20 pmNational Security Agency employees, bought bogus online college degrees from a diploma mill.‗ Well now we know why we didn’t find any WMD.
October 12th, 2006 at 4:24 pmThis Just In:
October 12th, 2006 at 4:26 pmBush is indeed a graduate of Yale. Yale Locksmith school that is.
Why get a degree from a mill, when you can BUY a masters degree from Yale Business School. Or something like that.
October 12th, 2006 at 4:45 pm“I don’t remember all the students in detail unless I’m prompted by something,” Tsurumi said in a telephone interview Wednesday. “But I always remember two types of students. One is the very excellent student, the type as a professor you feel honored to be working with. Someone with strong social values, compassion and intellect — the very rare person you never forget. And then you remember students like George Bush, those who are totally the opposite.”
October 12th, 2006 at 4:48 pmOne of Tsurumi’s standout students was Rep. Chris Cox, R-Calif., now the seventh-ranking member of the House Republican leadership. “I typed him as a conservative Republican with a conscience,” Tsurumi said. “He never confused his own ideology with economics, and he didn’t try to hide his ignorance of a subject in mumbo jumbo. He was what I call a principled conservative.” (Though clearly a partisan one. On Wednesday, Cox called for a congressional investigation of the validity of documents that CBS News obtained for a story questioning Bush’s attendance at Guard duty in Alabama.)
October 12th, 2006 at 4:51 pmBush, by contrast, “was totally the opposite of Chris Cox,” Tsurumi said. “He showed pathological lying habits and was in denial when challenged on his prejudices and biases. He would even deny saying something he just said 30 seconds ago. He was famous for that. Students jumped on him; I challenged him.” When asked to explain a particular comment, said Tsurumi, Bush would respond, “Oh, I never said that.” A White House spokeswoman did not return a phone call seeking comment.
#26
Yeah there is an interview Tsurumi did in 2004, the transscript is at http://s88172659.onlinehome.us/2004/07/interview-with-yoshi-tsurumi-bushs.html
These statements by Tsurumi were really telling
“Yes. In thirty years you always remember the two kinds of students. One is really good. The other is a George Bush kind. Terrible. Intellectually very shallow. But more importantly immature, but lacking the sense of responsibility, compassion, always indulging in denials when he is called on in his lies. And lies came very easily to him.”
“Lots of times the students, just the eh. For example. One statement that he made still stuck with me. We were discussing how the United States Government should help the lower income group or people on the fixed pension to adjust themselves to the high energy costs during the oil crisis, to bring in the fairness into the US economic policies. And he raised the issues and he said, “People are poor because they are lazy.†Those are the lies. And he goes into ranting and all kinds of things that there are no racial discriminations in the United States because at the times the civil rights movement was still smoldering.”
Bush hasn’t changed a bit at all, still an idiot.
October 12th, 2006 at 4:59 pmIn 1973, as the oil and energy crisis raged, Tsurumi led a discussion on whether government should assist retirees and other people on fixed incomes with heating costs. Bush, he recalled, “made this ridiculous statement and when I asked him to explain, he said, ‘The government doesn’t have to help poor people — because they are lazy.’ I said, ‘Well, could you explain that assumption?’ Not only could he not explain it, he started backtracking on it, saying, ‘No, I didn’t say that.’”
October 12th, 2006 at 5:16 pmIf Cox had been in the same class, Tsurumi said, “I could have asked him to challenge that and he would have demolished it. Not personally or emotionally, but intellectually.”
[...] My NASA brethren and I get along great because we respect the differing perspectives suit our personalities and drivers – they do not make either side better. But the tendency is for conservatives and republicans to go private sector and democrats to go civil service (and government employees also dominate the union population as well). So when you see news that civil servants have been caught with faked college degrees, those on the left laughing as if this was about Republicans (who control elected offices, not the career offices) is truly sad sight to behold. These liberals are laughing at what must be their kindred political brethren, and are just now aware of the make of the civil service community to know any better. [...]
October 12th, 2006 at 6:34 pm#30 – that would be interesting if we didn’t already know that Bushco turned civil service into a patronage farm as soon as they elbowed their way into the WH. You make the mistake that people here are as dumb as the people you regularly congress with. save the smarm for someone who’ll appreciate it.
October 12th, 2006 at 6:52 pm[...] The Derek Zoolander Center for Kids Who Can’t Read Good: [...]
October 13th, 2006 at 7:57 amMOST ARE DEMOCRATS IF THEY ARE CIVIL SERVICE.
October 13th, 2006 at 12:33 pm33 shout it louder, bud – that’ll surely make it true.
October 13th, 2006 at 12:53 pm