10,000 14,000 People Demand Chris Wallace Ask Rice About The U.S.S. Cole
10,000 14,000 People Demand Chris Wallace Ask Rice About The U.S.S. Cole
This morning, we suggested that readers email Chris Wallace and tell him to ask Condoleezza Rice the following question:
Prior to 9/11, you had eight months to respond to the al-Qaeda attack on the U.S.S. Cole. Why didn’t the Bush administration take action and put al-Qaeda out of business?
After all, Wallace asked President Clinton this question last month, even though the “CIA and the FBI refused to certify that Bin Laden was responsible” until early 2001, which foreclosed the possibility of a full response during the Clinton administration.
Also, Chris Wallace said he asked Clinton because “I got a lot of e-mail from viewers.” So far 10,000 people have emailed Wallace and told him to ask this question. Join this effort HERE.
We’ll monitor Fox News Sunday this weekend and let you know how Wallace responds.
UPDATE: As of 9PM, 14,000 people sent emails to Chris Wallace.
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October 13th, 2006 at 5:44 pmYou know what, to heck with Rice. We just need to do what these guys say and re-elect Rick Santorum. He will make it all better.
Rick Santorum is the candidate you would like to have a beer with, and unlike Bobby Casey, he won’t do anything weird with the bottle, afterwards.
It says satire…but I am not so sure.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:48 pmI didn’t believe Wallace when he said to Clinton “We got a lot of emails so I need to ask you….etc.” It was just an excuse to ask him things that would blind side him…things that were woutside of what they had agreed to talk about. i.e. Wallace: “I’m not blindsiding you……it was the emails …the emails….!!!” Bullshit
October 13th, 2006 at 5:52 pmMa gawd but that woman needs for someone to ask her some tough questions, and hold her feet to the fire until she answers (of course, I’d prefer it literally; but that’s just me).
On the other hand, in the truthiness corner against Ricezilla of Lies is none other than Mr. Bushtard adoring authoritarian follower, Mike Douglas’s brat that looks older and uglier than his father.
So obviously I won’t be expecting any tough anything from him. I’m signing the petition just to prove that even millions of petitioners couldn’t get the Fox 24-Hour Comedy Channel to pull their corporate head out of Junior’s Junta’s collective ass.
So, Round Roger, prove me wrong, why don’t you!
October 13th, 2006 at 5:55 pmJudd,
While I think the email campaign is a great (if useless) drive I wish it had included more on the tenet-rice meeting that rice intially said never ocurred…you know about an impeding attack given all the ‘chatter’.
I doubt Chris will ask her and if he does it will be a softie. Too bad.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:56 pmatleast we gonna find out if he will ask the question or not.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:59 pmStop wasting time; Condi has had all of the questions for several days now. That’s how a scripted interview works.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:59 pmI’ve added my email to the list, along with the questions about recapturing the convicted terrorists who escaped, and about the international law implications of holding someone in a secret prison. (see the other thread for background on those.)
October 13th, 2006 at 6:00 pmI believe Rice has already claimed that Bush administration policy makers felt there was no appropriate “proportional response” for the attack on the USS Cole, and that a disproportional response would only serve to heighten support for terrorists, so they did nothing.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:09 pmJames,
The petition has suggested text in it. You can change the wording and make the question whatever you want it to be. I know I did.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:09 pmFortunately for me, Thomas Jefferson was also an architect… so this week, my students looked at early American architecture and I included several of his quotes. I included all the ones about people being vigilant over government, and that we do not have a government governed by the majority – but by the majority that participates.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:11 pmand that a disproportional response would only serve to heighten support for terrorists, so they did nothing.
Comment by osage — October 13, 2006 @ 6:09 pm
Then why are they surprised by the violent responses presently occuring in Iraq?
Neocon logic is absurd, at best.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:13 pmGood question to ask her. Would have been better if he could spring it on her unprepared. As it is, I’m sure Condi’s staff monitor this blog and have now given her two full days to “prepare” her answer. No matter, whatever she answers will just be a bunch of crap anyway.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:17 pmAmazing they have the capacity for 10,000 e-mails.
Anyway, even if Chrissy asks the question, where then?…….
hello, yes, speak up over there, in the back.
“Uh, I don’t think Condi will answer the question”
October 13th, 2006 at 6:18 pmClinton was ambushed. Condi will have plenty of time to work up some sort of ambiguous response.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:19 pmCondosleezza Rice: “Well, Chris, the report on the USS Cole is just a historical document.”
Chris Wallace: “Who are you dating these days?”
October 13th, 2006 at 6:23 pmCondi is a travesty. I have NO respect for her. She plays the piano…..so what. She has a good memory…….so what. She is a sell out and no better than you or I. I’m a professional cellist. I’m not too dumb myself. It doesn’t mean that I can narrow my eyes, shovel bullshit, and expect to ultimately get away with it. She really burns my ass…..I see right through her. She’s a political hack……..bring on the shoes.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:34 pmS: “She has a good memory…….so what.”
Really? After her inability to remember 55 specific warnings from the FAA and a number of urgent requests for meetings, I wouldn’t have thought she was that strong in the memory area.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:42 pmAfter we finally get rid of her she can start modeling shoes for Ferragamo. At least we won’t have to look at her from the waist up anymore.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:47 pmHere’re my additions to the boilerplate:
“I’d also like to know why, if it’s so ridiculous that she would disregard a definite threat, why she didn’t feel it necessary to press “President” Bush more regarding the August 6th, 2001 PDB that he himself had disregarded. Have her explain why 9/11 happened, anyway, despite her alleged awareness of the threat.
You may also want to ask her why she felt is necessary to go shoe shopping at Ferragamo’s on 5th Avenue and play-hopping along the Great Way while her people on the Gulf coast were drowning.
Your not-so-humble and disobedient servant,
etc.”
October 13th, 2006 at 6:57 pmUSS Cole?
Ask her about the USS Liberty!
Also, next time one of these demons say they can’t recall something.
Say
A: Please think hard about it. Most people can recall everything they’ve done with enough focused recollection.
B: If you truly can’t recall something so important, then obviously you aren’t fit for the job.
Attack these scumbags.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:59 pmMore on dead eye’s rice huh, oh well, still nothing on the miserable bill’s passed by the house and senate….Have a nice week end poster’s…Blessings
October 13th, 2006 at 7:07 pmWhat will probaly happen is Wallace will give Condi advance notice that he is going to ask the question so that she can have some bogus statement prepared. Rather then springing it on her like he did Clinton.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:15 pmWallace is such an ass kiss that even if he does mention it to Rice, it’s be softened, and he’ll apologize and say a bunch of liberals made him ask the question.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:32 pmOkay, try number three:
Ask Condi abou the USS Condelleeza Rice owned and operated by Exxon Mobile.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:34 pmForget about Condi, we need to look at the bigger questions. I just found this stunning report, released Oct 10, which outlines the war crimes the US has committed in Iraq and which then discusses the various mechanisms to pursue accountability.
Dahr Jamail, noted independent journalist who spent more than eight months reporting from occupied Iraq, writes the following about the report:
Progressives everywhere owe it to themselves and to their countrymen to read this report…now. It looks like a pretty decent playbook to me!!! Get it here.
Published by consumersforpeace.org.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:48 pmI’ll read it, and I’m up for NurembergII, if that’s where it get us.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:56 pmThere is absolutely no way Wallace will NOT ask her that question now, thanks to this. Fair and balanced, you know?
October 13th, 2006 at 7:58 pmI will await the follow up.
October 13th, 2006 at 8:06 pmdo you really expect two insane little idiots to talk about anything resembling truth as they do the doggie dance on fox?
October 13th, 2006 at 8:08 pmi didn’t think so
They both have a vested interest in making each other look good (unlike Clinton) so expect a barf-inducing love-fest.
October 13th, 2006 at 8:19 pmYou know he has no intentions of asking off-the-cuff, no matter how many emails, letters, calls he gets.
He won’t ask unless Rice was forewarned in order to give her ample time to prepare a non-answer crafted by her paid sycophants.
If he does eventually ask, I predict the name Clinton will be mentioned at some point in the answer.
October 13th, 2006 at 8:33 pm#32
You make an excellant point. Wallace is no journalist, just a lying chimp playing cards with Rove. We need the Fairness Doctrine back otherwise the Chimp in Chief will continue his illegal actions.
October 13th, 2006 at 8:35 pmCheck out your knowledge of our history and be part of the next war on terror. Sign on today!
The Second Declaration of Independence.
October 13th, 2006 at 8:44 pmWe’re bombing Iran in early November.
Think I’m nuts?
It’s the ultimate “rally-around-the-flag” – keep us in office – because we can’t take 2 years of investigations pre-election ploy! And if that and the voting fraud don’t do the trick there’s always putting those 800 detention camps that cheney’s Halliburton has built to good use.
And who’s going to stop bush? Just when his poll numbers are tanking (again) and scandals are breaking all around this do-nothing congress gives bush DICTORIAL powers! It’s like the whole God-damn political systems is on crack!
Still think I’m crazy? How could bush possibly attack Iran – the military is stretched to breaking, rational people say. Indeed, but we’re not talking “rational” people here – they’re not even sane. Read the “mission statement” for PNAC – Iran has always been the target – the naval forces are heading there as we speak. Special Forces have been mapping out targets for months. This has got to be one of the biggest open secrets around and there’s been hardly a whisper.
Then try this on for size – today a friend left for deployment – not for Iraq – but for three weeks debriefing before being deployed to … Iran.
In 3 weeks bush starts WWIII
October 13th, 2006 at 9:10 pmThank you Stonehinge. It’s posts like yours that keep me coming back here.
October 13th, 2006 at 9:12 pmWell, since Wallace is all about giving the viewers what they want, I’d expect this question to be on the top of his list of things to ask. Or maybe I should stop drinking….
October 13th, 2006 at 9:20 pmAmerica’s Least Wanted
must read:
http://michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=8101
October 13th, 2006 at 9:48 pm#35
If what you say is true I suspect that there will be a first in American History–A MILITARY COUP!
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue would be attacked before our Military dropped the first bomb on Iran!
October 13th, 2006 at 9:52 pmOh great, now you’re believing everything that that twisted America hater Michael”Gas Bag” Moorer writes….Jeeesh
October 13th, 2006 at 10:00 pm#38 – Briseadh na Faire,
Chris Wallace should ask Condi Rice about that story — with a follow up.
October 13th, 2006 at 10:02 pmMichael Moore is not a gas bag. He was the only one telling the truth when very few people were listening because they were so caught up in republican paranoia. Now that people want their American freedom back, everyone is listening to Michael Moore.
October 13th, 2006 at 10:05 pm#40 – your stupidity is showing. You apparently didn’t read the article. Mr. Moore didn’t write it.
Sorry for using words that go over 2 syllables.
October 13th, 2006 at 10:08 pmIt could be 40,000, if he asks her, all we’ll get are the usual rantings of a sad, pathetic excuse monger.
October 13th, 2006 at 10:09 pm“Round up the usual suspects”
I can’t wait until Chris Wallace fails to mention any of this crap, and it leads to another segment on Countdown with Keith about how biased Faux News is.
October 13th, 2006 at 10:15 pmBriseadh na Faire,
You have to post a link to the “real” article. If you post a link to a site righties can find fault in, even though it is just linking to the “real” article, they won’t click through the link that leads to the “real” link to find out that the site that is linking to the “real” link is not the one that wrote the “real” article and is only linking to the “real” story.
Hope that clears it up.
October 13th, 2006 at 10:26 pm46 – sigh…ok, for those who are link-challenged:
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=35081
October 13th, 2006 at 10:40 pmIf she weren’t being misled by the douchebags in charge, aka, “DICk”, she would probably be ok.
October 13th, 2006 at 10:42 pmBnF
: )
October 13th, 2006 at 10:44 pmGonnuts I hope youre wrong, but would your friend be told exactly where he was going??? I don’t think the military works like that.
Even if it did happen it would be so counter productive, it would be seen right thru. Common sense is not so common as Voltaire or someone said but ppl are not altogether stupid…………………….then again Bush has been ‘elected’……………………………twice………………..
Good grief………….
Sad isnt it………..
October 13th, 2006 at 10:49 pm#50 Gourney
You are overlooking the fact that stupid is forever. How else to explain DUHbya’s magical 31%?
October 13th, 2006 at 10:55 pmFrom an Australian:
Apparently 200,000 Iraqis have died from direct US fire in Iraq.
So much for ‘moral values’ America.
You all make me sick. Who are the terrorists? I know that people in my country are boycotting anything American.
Keep on eating, and getting fat Americans!
October 13th, 2006 at 11:08 pmOk, David, because all of us Americans are fascists, right? I don’t blame you for boycotting but telling us we make you sick? Screw you since you cannot differentiate between our government and the people. You do know that Bushie is at 33%, right? You are pathetic.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:25 pmOT, I know, but 43 homes on our street out of 46 just received our absentee ballots. #2 pencils have been distributed to each. The next street down has 47 out of 53, same #2 pencils. Our aim is to deliver 163 votes for Democratic candidates. We have no felons in our midst and the remaining 9 homes have 5 felons out of 14 registered voters. We have been organizing for 18 months. We are also in Florida.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:26 pm#54 I salute you. We still have paper ballots here but there is no way I would ever vote on a machine without a paper trail. Best of luck.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:34 pmSpooge Boy – I’m glad you’ve learned your lesson about links. Yes – they should:
A. be True
B. support your argument
Something I know you learned last night you clown.
OUT
October 13th, 2006 at 11:40 pm#56 LOL, coming from an a-hole that never provides any links…nor truth.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:43 pmYa know….there’s a part of me that thinks this is a waste of time and space, yet….a bigger part of me will get a hoot…or maybe better phased; “totally within expectationsâ€â€¦.of the headline I expect to see….â€Wallace ignores emails and steers questions to slam Clinton on North Koreaâ€.
Now, don’t get be wrong, I firmly believe that when the twit shelved the “framework†in `02 is the reason we’re witnessing what we just witnessed……it’s just that I firmly believe that Sunday’s program is totally “scripted†for a response toward Hillary (and her words today) and WJC’s policy(s) with regard to North Korea.
The show will be 100% NK with the possible exception of the obligatory….â€Hey…I like your shoesâ€â€¦..
Wallace will not get off message….
October 13th, 2006 at 11:43 pmPeterh
You are not thinking. Wallace is a registered Dem.
The ‘twit’ shelved the “framework” because it wasnt working. Clinton and Albright hoped that the agreement they struck in the early 90s would hold – but the truth was that KJI was developing nukes while clintons weapons inspectors were being pulled out. Clinton gave NK a few billion in oil/cash – a nuclear reactor or two and now the talking heads are walking around pretending to be astounded that NK has Nukes. You guys can’t be trusted.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:48 pmIf you equate our military and diplomacy to Teflon pans, Rummy, W, Condi and Karl are using case hardened steel utensils to flip the pancakes and scrambled eggs.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:58 pm#59 MIKE Wallace is a registered Dem, not his nasty little spawn.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:00 amRUSH: Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, I asked, “Where is the Drive-By Media on the Harry Reid story?” I was pointed to a blog called the Strata-Sphere (it’s put together by a guy named A. J. Strata, hence the name Strata-Sphere) and I printed out 18 pages. These 18 pages are of Harry Reid land deals in Nevada and Arizona. I don’t know when the guy has had time to be a senator. This is… I’m holding them up here for those of you watching (glad you’re with us) on the Dittocam. This stuff, it goes on and on and on, these are official records, somebody just went to the website, looked the stuff up, sale prices, who owned what, who lent what, who borrowed what, and this is just the real estate deals. It’s inconceivable that this is it.
I wonder what else the guy is into. It’s mind-boggling here, and of course the lead item here at the Strata-Sphere blog is the Reid kickbacks. “Folks, head to the comments section where long time reader SBD is working his usual magic and posting multiple real estate transactions with one Harry Reid regarding properties in NV and buyers/sellers from all over (including my home town of McLean VA). I wonder how many of these reports made it accurately into the public record?” And then somebody, “hey nancy – start with your swamp before you think about draining ours.” This is — really, folks, it is very serious, and now people are beginning to look into whether — this came up on this program yesterday. We’re on the cutting edge, societal evolution.
People are beginning to wonder whether Reid’s son Rory was on the county commission when these zoning changes took place, and if he was on the commission, did he recuse himself. Some of the people on the commission are long-time Harry Reid flunkies anyway. We’ve learned that much. But some of these votes they’re wondering if Rory Reid, Harry Reid’s son, recused himself or just went ahead and voted. This isn’t known. But surely, ladies and gentlemen, the Drive-By Media will look into all of this, right? Surely they will. The Drive-By Media — in fact, let’s go to last night’s World News Tonight, and let’s see what our old buddy Brian Ross was busy investigating while the Dingy Harry scandal was unfolding.
ROSS: Twenty three-year-old Marine Sergeant Heather Cerveny was sent to Guantanamo Bay in late September as a legal aid to a Marine lawyer representing a detainee. In a sworn affidavit filed with the Pentagon inspector general, Cerveny says she met several Navy prison guards at an on-base club where, over drinks —
RUSH: Stop the tape. Has anybody heard the name Harry Reid here yet in Brian Ross’s report? What are we getting here? We’re getting another story about how unfortunate people are treated at Club Gitmo. I’ve been listening for Harry Reid. Here’s the rest of it.
ROSS: In detail, harsh physical abuse of the detainees.
RUSH: Yeah.
CERVENY: The one sailor specifically said, “I took the detainee by the head and smashed his head into the cell door.” Other ones specifically saying, “You know, today, that guy was annoying me, you know, I smacked him in the head.”
ROSS: The new allegations come as the military and the White House have insisted any problems at Guantanamo in the treatment of detainees have long since been fixed.
RUSH: And there you have it, Brian Ross, our buddy from ABC, on the case, ladies and gentlemen, following up a story at Club Gitmo about which nobody’s heard anything. Breaking news, from the investigative unit of ABC on Club Gitmo! Meanwhile, Dingy Harry was out in Nevada yesterday, and he said this about collecting $1.1 million on a land deal. Remember this land deal, there’s something strange about this. He’s in league with a guy named Jay Brown who, according to all kinds of documentation, has been investigated by the feds for suspicious activity with organized crime and so forth. Dingy Harry buys a plot of land for $400,000 and sells it back for the identical figure without even any interest accrual or inflation accrual. Now, who does that? And then six years later, after selling it back for 400 grand, the property flips, Dingy Harry turns it into 175% profit that. That outdoes anything ExxonMobil has ever done: $1.1 million — and he was commenting on this yesterday. He’s off mike in this sound bite. Let’s listen to it, and if it’s hard to understand, I will translate, because I have the transcript.
REID: As we speak we’re checking it out, if there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.
RUSH: Okay. “As we speak, we’re checking it out,” Dingy Harry said. “If there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.” That’s what’s suspicious about this. Who sells something that has obviously escalated in value for the same price you bought it at without even inflating it for the inflation value of money, or the inflation rise in money or any kind of interest. Now, look how willing he is to pay a fine, ladies and gentlemen — and he’s still looking into it. “We’re checking it out.” Meanwhile, the calls for Denny Hastert and Republicans to resign over the Foley case get louder and louder and louder. Meanwhile, all the news about the Foley case keeps expanding and expanding and expanding. People are publishing private e-mails between Foley and Governor Jeb Bush that have nothing to do with anything, trying to keep that story alive.
Listen to this. This is so sweet! It is a Reuters story: “Media outlets are finding it harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover without losing scoops to blogs and other competitors, the editor of online magazine Slate said yesterday.” This is Jacob Weisberg at a Reuters Newsmaker event. He said, “I very much agree that we need to have standards but I think in practical terms we don’t control what people find out anymore.” (laughing) Oh, yes! That, ladies and gentlemen, is it in a nutshell, the end of the Drive-By Media, and they know it. “We don’t control what people find out anymore.” From that may we presume, assume, infer that at one time they know they “controlled what people found out,” meaning you. Now the lid’s blown, and they have lost control, and what a topic. Harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover. Well, now, what politician’s privacy do you want to protect? Dingy Harry’s, maybe? Democrat politicians? Is that who it is, the privacy you’re concerned about? And stars? Why, who would those stars be? What a topic.
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RUSH: A question, ladies and gentlemen. If it were Bill Frist about whom kickbacks and shady land deals had been exposed, do you think there would be any interest in it in the Drive-By Media and do you think Democrats throughout the Senate would be demanding full disclosure and a full investigation? Yes. Do you hear any Republicans demanding anything against Dingy Harry? No. Do you hear of the Drive-By Media? You see stories out there. AP has a follow-up today, and I saw a little bit on MSNBC this morning, but it was almost like they did it in a perfunctory fashion. They couldn’t wait to get back to Foley, and they’re still talking about the Cory Lidle airplane accident and the ensuing investigation.
There are some media outlets out there touching on this. The Philadelphia Inquirer in an editorial today titled, “Practice What You Preach — That’s how this case looks, too. Unless Reid comes up with a better explanation for this lack of disclosure, Democrats should not keep him as their leader in the new Congress in 2007.” That’s the Philadelphia Inquirer. Here is the Washington Post. “for Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) is that he was sloppy about financial disclosure rules in accounting for a real estate deal on which he made a $700,000 profit.” That’s 175% more than ExxonMobil. “The more unattractive case is that the senator’s inaccurate description of the investment was an effort to disguise his partnership with a Las Vegas lawyer who’s never been charged with wrongdoing but whose name has surfaced in federal investigations involving organized crime, casinos and political bribery since the 1980s… It’s true — under the inadequate financial disclosure rules — that even if Mr. Reid had listed the newly formed corporation, Patrick Lane LLC, that wouldn’t have by itself demonstrated Mr. Brown’s involvement. Nonetheless, that Mr. Reid no longer owned the land, but instead had sold it for an interest in the Patrick Lane corporation, was not some mere ‘technical change,’ as the senator would like to brush it off. It’s an essential element of financial disclosure rules, the purpose of which is to know how and with whom public officials are financially entwined.”
Hey, Post people? Fred Hyatt, editorial page. Go to Strata-Sphere.com, if you can bear to look at a conservative blog and just take a look at the 18 printed pages. When you look at it, there’s nothing in them that rings suspicious. It’s just public records of sales, loans, and so forth involving Dingy Harry and his wife, but for crying out loud, what does this guy make? You know, I look at everything from — and a lot of other people do, too, and it’s a mistake to do this — but I look at these guys, what does a senator make, $165,200 (leaders make $180,100). We know that the Democratic side of the Senate is populated with considerable wealth. More millionaires, multimillionaires on the Democrat side than on the Republican side and that’s always struck me odd when the Democrats say that they have an understanding with the common man. By the way, you common people know who you are, and the Democrats, they’re able to “relate” to you
They understand. I’m going to just tell all you common people out there, you couldn’t get close to accomplishing what Dingy Harry has accomplished, apparently over and over and over and over again. If the ethics committee really digs deep into this, this investigation is going to going on for a long, long time. Now, why do you suppose the Washington Post and the Philadelphia Inquirer and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution are editorializing on this and suggesting that Dingy Harry has a lot of explaining to do? I mean, why are they not ignoring it? Why are they not sweeping it under the rug? I don’t want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but not too many people read the editorials. They read op-eds, but there aren’t too many people that read the editorials in a newspaper.
They’re boring. They’re literally boring. They’re the worst written aspect of the newspaper. So it’s a way to get it in the paper without getting it in the paper. But when they do write these editorials they’re pretty cutting to Dingy Harry. And I think that there’s a bit of a concern on some of these papers’ parts, “This is just too close to the election for this to come out. If this guy is a problem, we’ve gotta do something about it, we’ve gotta make sure that we aren’t appearing to sweep it under the rug here at our paper,” and so forth and so on. I’m just hazarding a guess. What does the Journal-Constitution say? Well… “Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid would be well advised to stop thundering about corruption in the Republican ranks, or crying cover-up over the GOP’s failure to promptly and appropriately deal with Mark Foley.
“Reid faces too many questions about his own behavior to crusade about the misdeeds of others. Currently he’s trying to explain a land deal in Nevada on which he made a pile of money and which may not have been properly disclosed. When the property was sold in 2004, it belonged to a company formed with a long-time friend and included a parcel that once had belonged to Harry Reid. Despite having transferred his parcel to the company, for the same amount of loot that he bought it for, the Nevada Democrat continued to report in Senate Democrats he still owned it personally. That’s a breach of Senate disclosure rules, according to the AP, which first reported the transaction details.” Now, that is pretty stunning. We’ve covered this.
He continued to report in Senate documents he still owned it personally. He wants to say, “Well, it’s an oversight. I’ll go and pay a fine. I’ll fix it.” When you look at the number of land deals that Dingy Harry is involved in, you find out this is a full-time involvement in it he has. This is not something going on in the ten or 20% of his day that he doesn’t have to do Senate business or what have you, or party business. When you look at these documents — we’ll link to it at RushLimbaugh.com. We’ll put it up there so you can look at it yourself. This is an ongoing enterprise, and these kinds of things people do not do hands off with no attention being paid and just verbal agreements, “Oh, yeah, you go ahead and take this 400 grand. I’ll give it back to you. I’ll forget that I sold it to you. I’ll pretend I still own it, then you can pay me.” It’s hard to believe.
“Reid is now considering whether he should amend his disclosure statement. Two months ago the Los Angeles Times reported that Reid had smoothed the way for a campaign contributor and friend to develop a huge tract of land northeast of Las Vegas. Reid tried twice before he was successful to get a utility right-of-way moved from a proposed development site on to public land.” By the way, at RushLimbaugh.com there’s a LA Times story from the nineties that we dug up a long time ago that is amazingly detailed and illustrative of the workings of the Dingy Harry family in Las Vegas and how they’re all intertwined, and nobody cared about that when it came out, either, but we’ve got it permanently linked in our Essential Stack of Stuff. We’ve got it highlighted on the front page so that you can access it as well.
“The first effort of Harry Reid’s stall because of objections from the Bureau of Land Management and others that the developer wasn’t going to pay for anything for a deal that would greatly increase the value of his development site. Eventually, though, it was determined that the developer should pay the federal government more than $10 million. Then there are the free boxing tickets that Reid took from the Nevada Athletic Commission. The panel was hoping to block formation of a national boxing commission. Reid favored one. Only after the AP reported this summer that Reid got the expensive tickets did Reid decide he no longer accept such gifts. Unfortunately, Reid’s ethics meter only seems to work when it’s too late.” This was written by David McNaughton for the editorial board. They actually signed this editorial: David McNaughton for the Atlanta Journal and Constitution — and then Jed Babbin wants to know why is it that none of the major TV networks or newspapers have managed to pay attention to the biggest real scandal of this season, and that is Dingy Harry Reid. Be calm, ladies and gentlemen. Be cool. At some point they’ll not be able to avoid this.
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RUSH: Not to make a big deal out of this, ladies and gentlemen, but falsifying the report as Dingy Harry Greed apparently did is a federal crime, under Title 18, United States Code section 1001. It’s a false statement for which Reid could be sent to jail, according to the statute. Now, as Jed Babbin says, “If you’re looking for this on tonight’s network news or on the front page of tomorrow’s New York Times next to the latest Foley reveal, you won’t find it.” MSNBC, as I said, did a little blurb on this today, this morning in addition to the original AP story here, and let me just highlight some things that are relatively new.
“Other parts of the deal such as the informal handling of property taxes raise questions about possible gifts or income reportable to Congress and the IRS, ethics experts said. Reid and his wife Landra personally signed the deed, selling their full interest in the property to this Jay Brown’s company, Patrick Lane, LLC, for the same $400,000 they paid in 1998.” Now, you buy something for 400 grand in 1998, you sell it back four years later for the same amount of money? No inflation even factored in, much less interest? Come on! Who does this? (interruption) Real estate wasn’t booming? (laughing) Real estate wasn’t booming. What was this? This was at the height of the Clinton economic nineties, Mr. Snerdley! Don’t tell me real estate wasn’t booming.
Now, despite the sale, Dingy Harry “continued to report on his public ethics reports that he personally owned the land until it was sold again in 2004.” So it was six years. He claimed he owned it for six years when he didn’t. “His disclosure forms to Congress don’t mention an interest in Patrick Lane or the company’s role in the ‘04 sale. Reid isn’t listed anywhere on Patrick Lane’s corporate filings with Nevada even though the land he sold accounted for three-quarters of the company’s assets. Brown is listed as the company’s manager. Reid’s office said Nevada law didn’t require Dingy Harry to be mentioned in the filings.
“Ethics experts say such informality raises questions about whether any of Jay Brown’s tax payments amounted to a benefit for Reid. It might end up having been a gift. For years, Reid also had been encouraging the interior department to make land swaps on behalf of Del Webb, where one of his former aides worked.” We’ve been through all of this. Here’s the rezoning aspect. This is cool. “Clark County intended for the property that Reid owned to be used solely for new housing. Just days before the Harry Reid sold the parcels to Brown’s company, Brown sought permission in May of 2001 to rezone the property so a shopping center could be built. Career zoning officials objected saying the request was inconsistent with Clark County’s master development plan.
“The town board in Spring Valley where Reid’s property was located also voted 4-1 to reject the rezoning, but Jay Brown persisted. The Clark County zoning board followed by the Clark County commission voted to overrule the recommendation and approve commercial zoning so the shopping center could be built. Such votes were common at the time. Before the approval in September 2001, Brown’s consultant told commissioners that Reid was involved. Mr. Brown’s partners: ‘Harry Reid, I think we’ve people in this community you can trust to go forward put a quality project before you.’” Harry’s in on this; no need to sweat it! So now people are wondering whether Dingy Harry’s son Rory had anything to do with any of these votes. Andrew in Clifton, New Jersey, I’m glad you called. Welcome. You’re first on Open Line Friday, and welcome.
CALLER: What an honor to speak to you, Rush.
RUSH: Thank you, sir. You bet.
CALLER: I wanted to know why the Republican leaders haven’t asked for the resignation of Harry Reid? We’re six weeks out of an election. The Democrats are calling for Hastert’s resignation. They’re basically building up a lot of political clout against this man, and I want to know where the Republicans are on this.
RUSH: Well, I’ll answer this again. Number one: The Republicans don’t have to say anything because we’re doing their job for them here. Number two, it’s just not in them. They just don’t operate this way. You could ask this about virtually everything. When the whole Foley thing came, where were they there? They were running around like scared dogs with their tails between their legs or their other body orifices.
CALLER: Then they deserve to lose then if they’re not going to get up and —
RUSH: No, no, no! WE don’t deserve to lose. Screw these guys! WE don’t deserve to lose! WE don’t deserve to have Democrats running this country at this point in our nation’s history. That’s not what this is about. Let me tell you something. There’s a USA Today columnist, and I forget his name right now. There’s a columnist at USA Today who heard me say that everybody’s looking at this the wrong way. The media has got everybody focused on: “Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose the House? Will Republicans lose the Senate?” and I said in a brilliant monolog earlier this week, “What if the Democrats lose? If they can’t win in this kind of climate and environment, they don’t even deserve to be a political party.
And this guy picked up on it, thinks I have a point, starts examining whether or not the Democrats have even earned the right to govern. He’s a media guy. He begrudgingly acknowledges that I have a point. This whole thing needs to be turned around in terms of looking at the context. Why is it that the reporting day in and day out is always focused on Republicans lose, Republicans lose the House, Republicans lose the Senate. We really don’t hear a whole lot of focus on the Democrats doing this to win back the Senate, the Democrats doing this to win back the House. What we hear are never ending stories about how people hate Republicans, and we are never told that the people of this country have anything other than total adoration and love for Democrats.
If you’re to believe the mainstream press, there isn’t one Democrat who’s going to get one negative vote, who’s going to lose an election in this race. There isn’t one American who has any gripe with any Democrat. All the gripes are aimed at Republicans. Well, we know that’s BS. There are 20 million of us, and we have gripes with Democrats. We’re being totally ignored in this context. So, you know, when you say the Republicans deserve to lose, we don’t deserve to lose is the way to look at this. We certainly don’t deserve to have this nation governed by lightweights like Nancy Pelosi and dangerous people like Chuck Rangel who will raise anybody’s taxes faster than he can go to the bathroom after winning the race. These guys, they portend policies that will reverse very nice economic directions that the country is headed in. Anyway, why don’t the Republicans come up? Who knows? They don’t want to be attacked themselves. Maybe they’ve got things they’re hiding. Who the hell knows? All I know is, they don’t ever do it.
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October 14th, 2006 at 12:01 amRUSH: Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, I asked, “Where is the Drive-By Media on the Harry Reid story?” I was pointed to a blog called the Strata-Sphere (it’s put together by a guy named A. J. Strata, hence the name Strata-Sphere) and I printed out 18 pages. These 18 pages are of Harry Reid land deals in Nevada and Arizona. I don’t know when the guy has had time to be a senator. This is… I’m holding them up here for those of you watching (glad you’re with us) on the Dittocam. This stuff, it goes on and on and on, these are official records, somebody just went to the website, looked the stuff up, sale prices, who owned what, who lent what, who borrowed what, and this is just the real estate deals. It’s inconceivable that this is it.
I wonder what else the guy is into. It’s mind-boggling here, and of course the lead item here at the Strata-Sphere blog is the Reid kickbacks. “Folks, head to the comments section where long time reader SBD is working his usual magic and posting multiple real estate transactions with one Harry Reid regarding properties in NV and buyers/sellers from all over (including my home town of McLean VA). I wonder how many of these reports made it accurately into the public record?” And then somebody, “hey nancy – start with your swamp before you think about draining ours.” This is — really, folks, it is very serious, and now people are beginning to look into whether — this came up on this program yesterday. We’re on the cutting edge, societal evolution.
People are beginning to wonder whether Reid’s son Rory was on the county commission when these zoning changes took place, and if he was on the commission, did he recuse himself. Some of the people on the commission are long-time Harry Reid flunkies anyway. We’ve learned that much. But some of these votes they’re wondering if Rory Reid, Harry Reid’s son, recused himself or just went ahead and voted. This isn’t known. But surely, ladies and gentlemen, the Drive-By Media will look into all of this, right? Surely they will. The Drive-By Media — in fact, let’s go to last night’s World News Tonight, and let’s see what our old buddy Brian Ross was busy investigating while the Dingy Harry scandal was unfolding.
ROSS: Twenty three-year-old Marine Sergeant Heather Cerveny was sent to Guantanamo Bay in late September as a legal aid to a Marine lawyer representing a detainee. In a sworn affidavit filed with the Pentagon inspector general, Cerveny says she met several Navy prison guards at an on-base club where, over drinks —
RUSH: Stop the tape. Has anybody heard the name Harry Reid here yet in Brian Ross’s report? What are we getting here? We’re getting another story about how unfortunate people are treated at Club Gitmo. I’ve been listening for Harry Reid. Here’s the rest of it.
ROSS: In detail, harsh physical abuse of the detainees.
RUSH: Yeah.
CERVENY: The one sailor specifically said, “I took the detainee by the head and smashed his head into the cell door.” Other ones specifically saying, “You know, today, that guy was annoying me, you know, I smacked him in the head.”
ROSS: The new allegations come as the military and the White House have insisted any problems at Guantanamo in the treatment of detainees have long since been fixed.
RUSH: And there you have it, Brian Ross, our buddy from ABC, on the case, ladies and gentlemen, following up a story at Club Gitmo about which nobody’s heard anything. Breaking news, from the investigative unit of ABC on Club Gitmo! Meanwhile, Dingy Harry was out in Nevada yesterday, and he said this about collecting $1.1 million on a land deal. Remember this land deal, there’s something strange about this. He’s in league with a guy named Jay Brown who, according to all kinds of documentation, has been investigated by the feds for suspicious activity with organized crime and so forth. Dingy Harry buys a plot of land for $400,000 and sells it back for the identical figure without even any interest accrual or inflation accrual. Now, who does that? And then six years later, after selling it back for 400 grand, the property flips, Dingy Harry turns it into 175% profit that. That outdoes anything ExxonMobil has ever done: $1.1 million — and he was commenting on this yesterday. He’s off mike in this sound bite. Let’s listen to it, and if it’s hard to understand, I will translate, because I have the transcript.
REID: As we speak we’re checking it out, if there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.
RUSH: Okay. “As we speak, we’re checking it out,” Dingy Harry said. “If there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.” That’s what’s suspicious about this. Who sells something that has obviously escalated in value for the same price you bought it at without even inflating it for the inflation value of money, or the inflation rise in money or any kind of interest. Now, look how willing he is to pay a fine, ladies and gentlemen — and he’s still looking into it. “We’re checking it out.” Meanwhile, the calls for Denny Hastert and Republicans to resign over the Foley case get louder and louder and louder. Meanwhile, all the news about the Foley case keeps expanding and expanding and expanding. People are publishing private e-mails between Foley and Governor Jeb Bush that have nothing to do with anything, trying to keep that story alive.
Listen to this. This is so sweet! It is a Reuters story: “Media outlets are finding it harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover without losing scoops to blogs and other competitors, the editor of online magazine Slate said yesterday.” This is Jacob Weisberg at a Reuters Newsmaker event. He said, “I very much agree that we need to have standards but I think in practical terms we don’t control what people find out anymore.” (laughing) Oh, yes! That, ladies and gentlemen, is it in a nutshell, the end of the Drive-By Media, and they know it. “We don’t control what people find out anymore.” From that may we presume, assume, infer that at one time they know they “controlled what people found out,” meaning you. Now the lid’s blown, and they have lost control, and what a topic. Harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover. Well, now, what politician’s privacy do you want to protect? Dingy Harry’s, maybe? Democrat politicians? Is that who it is, the privacy you’re concerned about? And stars? Why, who would those stars be? What a topic.
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RUSH: A question, ladies and gentlemen. If it were Bill Frist about whom kickbacks and shady land deals had been exposed, do you think there would be any interest in it in the Drive-By Media and do you think Democrats throughout the Senate would be demanding full disclosure and a full investigation? Yes. Do you hear any Republicans demanding anything against Dingy Harry? No. Do you hear of the Drive-By Media? You see stories out there. AP has a follow-up today, and I saw a little bit on MSNBC this morning, but it was almost like they did it in a perfunctory fashion. They couldn’t wait to get back to Foley, and they’re still talking about the Cory Lidle airplane accident and the ensuing investigation.
There are some media outlets out there touching on this. The Philadelphia Inquirer in an editorial today titled, “Practice What You Preach — That’s how this case looks, too. Unless Reid comes up with a better explanation for this lack of disclosure, Democrats should not keep him as their leader in the new Congress in 2007.” That’s the Philadelphia Inquirer. Here is the Washington Post. “for Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) is that he was sloppy about financial disclosure rules in accounting for a real estate deal on which he made a $700,000 profit.” That’s 175% more than ExxonMobil. “The more unattractive case is that the senator’s inaccurate description of the investment was an effort to disguise his partnership with a Las Vegas lawyer who’s never been charged with wrongdoing but whose name has surfaced in federal investigations involving organized crime, casinos and political bribery since the 1980s… It’s true — under the inadequate financial disclosure rules — that even if Mr. Reid had listed the newly formed corporation, Patrick Lane LLC, that wouldn’t have by itself demonstrated Mr. Brown’s involvement. Nonetheless, that Mr. Reid no longer owned the land, but instead had sold it for an interest in the Patrick Lane corporation, was not some mere ‘technical change,’ as the senator would like to brush it off. It’s an essential element of financial disclosure rules, the purpose of which is to know how and with whom public officials are financially entwined.”
Hey, Post people? Fred Hyatt, editorial page. Go to Strata-Sphere.com, if you can bear to look at a conservative blog and just take a look at the 18 printed pages. When you look at it, there’s nothing in them that rings suspicious. It’s just public records of sales, loans, and so forth involving Dingy Harry and his wife, but for crying out loud, what does this guy make? You know, I look at everything from — and a lot of other people do, too, and it’s a mistake to do this — but I look at these guys, what does a senator make, $165,200 (leaders make $180,100). We know that the Democratic side of the Senate is populated with considerable wealth. More millionaires, multimillionaires on the Democrat side than on the Republican side and that’s always struck me odd when the Democrats say that they have an understanding with the common man. By the way, you common people know who you are, and the Democrats, they’re able to “relate” to you
They understand. I’m going to just tell all you common people out there, you couldn’t get close to accomplishing what Dingy Harry has accomplished, apparently over and over and over and over again. If the ethics committee really digs deep into this, this investigation is going to going on for a long, long time. Now, why do you suppose the Washington Post and the Philadelphia Inquirer and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution are editorializing on this and suggesting that Dingy Harry has a lot of explaining to do? I mean, why are they not ignoring it? Why are they not sweeping it under the rug? I don’t want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but not too many people read the editorials. They read op-eds, but there aren’t too many people that read the editorials in a newspaper.
They’re boring. They’re literally boring. They’re the worst written aspect of the newspaper. So it’s a way to get it in the paper without getting it in the paper. But when they do write these editorials they’re pretty cutting to Dingy Harry. And I think that there’s a bit of a concern on some of these papers’ parts, “This is just too close to the election for this to come out. If this guy is a problem, we’ve gotta do something about it, we’ve gotta make sure that we aren’t appearing to sweep it under the rug here at our paper,” and so forth and so on. I’m just hazarding a guess. What does the Journal-Constitution say? Well… “Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid would be well advised to stop thundering about corruption in the Republican ranks, or crying cover-up over the GOP’s failure to promptly and appropriately deal with Mark Foley.
“Reid faces too many questions about his own behavior to crusade about the misdeeds of others. Currently he’s trying to explain a land deal in Nevada on which he made a pile of money and which may not have been properly disclosed. When the property was sold in 2004, it belonged to a company formed with a long-time friend and included a parcel that once had belonged to Harry Reid. Despite having transferred his parcel to the company, for the same amount of loot that he bought it for, the Nevada Democrat continued to report in Senate Democrats he still owned it personally. That’s a breach of Senate disclosure rules, according to the AP, which first reported the transaction details.” Now, that is pretty stunning. We’ve covered this.
He continued to report in Senate documents he still owned it personally. He wants to say, “Well, it’s an oversight. I’ll go and pay a fine. I’ll fix it.” When you look at the number of land deals that Dingy Harry is involved in, you find out this is a full-time involvement in it he has. This is not something going on in the ten or 20% of his day that he doesn’t have to do Senate business or what have you, or party business. When you look at these documents — we’ll link to it at RushLimbaugh.com. We’ll put it up there so you can look at it yourself. This is an ongoing enterprise, and these kinds of things people do not do hands off with no attention being paid and just verbal agreements, “Oh, yeah, you go ahead and take this 400 grand. I’ll give it back to you. I’ll forget that I sold it to you. I’ll pretend I still own it, then you can pay me.” It’s hard to believe.
“Reid is now considering whether he should amend his disclosure statement. Two months ago the Los Angeles Times reported that Reid had smoothed the way for a campaign contributor and friend to develop a huge tract of land northeast of Las Vegas. Reid tried twice before he was successful to get a utility right-of-way moved from a proposed development site on to public land.” By the way, at RushLimbaugh.com there’s a LA Times story from the nineties that we dug up a long time ago that is amazingly detailed and illustrative of the workings of the Dingy Harry family in Las Vegas and how they’re all intertwined, and nobody cared about that when it came out, either, but we’ve got it permanently linked in our Essential Stack of Stuff. We’ve got it highlighted on the front page so that you can access it as well.
“The first effort of Harry Reid’s stall because of objections from the Bureau of Land Management and others that the developer wasn’t going to pay for anything for a deal that would greatly increase the value of his development site. Eventually, though, it was determined that the developer should pay the federal government more than $10 million. Then there are the free boxing tickets that Reid took from the Nevada Athletic Commission. The panel was hoping to block formation of a national boxing commission. Reid favored one. Only after the AP reported this summer that Reid got the expensive tickets did Reid decide he no longer accept such gifts. Unfortunately, Reid’s ethics meter only seems to work when it’s too late.” This was written by David McNaughton for the editorial board. They actually signed this editorial: David McNaughton for the Atlanta Journal and Constitution — and then Jed Babbin wants to know why is it that none of the major TV networks or newspapers have managed to pay attention to the biggest real scandal of this season, and that is Dingy Harry Reid. Be calm, ladies and gentlemen. Be cool. At some point they’ll not be able to avoid this.
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RUSH: Not to make a big deal out of this, ladies and gentlemen, but falsifying the report as Dingy Harry Greed apparently did is a federal crime, under Title 18, United States Code section 1001. It’s a false statement for which Reid could be sent to jail, according to the statute. Now, as Jed Babbin says, “If you’re looking for this on tonight’s network news or on the front page of tomorrow’s New York Times next to the latest Foley reveal, you won’t find it.” MSNBC, as I said, did a little blurb on this today, this morning in addition to the original AP story here, and let me just highlight some things that are relatively new.
“Other parts of the deal such as the informal handling of property taxes raise questions about possible gifts or income reportable to Congress and the IRS, ethics experts said. Reid and his wife Landra personally signed the deed, selling their full interest in the property to this Jay Brown’s company, Patrick Lane, LLC, for the same $400,000 they paid in 1998.” Now, you buy something for 400 grand in 1998, you sell it back four years later for the same amount of money? No inflation even factored in, much less interest? Come on! Who does this? (interruption) Real estate wasn’t booming? (laughing) Real estate wasn’t booming. What was this? This was at the height of the Clinton economic nineties, Mr. Snerdley! Don’t tell me real estate wasn’t booming.
Now, despite the sale, Dingy Harry “continued to report on his public ethics reports that he personally owned the land until it was sold again in 2004.” So it was six years. He claimed he owned it for six years when he didn’t. “His disclosure forms to Congress don’t mention an interest in Patrick Lane or the company’s role in the ‘04 sale. Reid isn’t listed anywhere on Patrick Lane’s corporate filings with Nevada even though the land he sold accounted for three-quarters of the company’s assets. Brown is listed as the company’s manager. Reid’s office said Nevada law didn’t require Dingy Harry to be mentioned in the filings.
“Ethics experts say such informality raises questions about whether any of Jay Brown’s tax payments amounted to a benefit for Reid. It might end up having been a gift. For years, Reid also had been encouraging the interior department to make land swaps on behalf of Del Webb, where one of his former aides worked.” We’ve been through all of this. Here’s the rezoning aspect. This is cool. “Clark County intended for the property that Reid owned to be used solely for new housing. Just days before the Harry Reid sold the parcels to Brown’s company, Brown sought permission in May of 2001 to rezone the property so a shopping center could be built. Career zoning officials objected saying the request was inconsistent with Clark County’s master development plan.
“The town board in Spring Valley where Reid’s property was located also voted 4-1 to reject the rezoning, but Jay Brown persisted. The Clark County zoning board followed by the Clark County commission voted to overrule the recommendation and approve commercial zoning so the shopping center could be built. Such votes were common at the time. Before the approval in September 2001, Brown’s consultant told commissioners that Reid was involved. Mr. Brown’s partners: ‘Harry Reid, I think we’ve people in this community you can trust to go forward put a quality project before you.’” Harry’s in on this; no need to sweat it! So now people are wondering whether Dingy Harry’s son Rory had anything to do with any of these votes. Andrew in Clifton, New Jersey, I’m glad you called. Welcome. You’re first on Open Line Friday, and welcome.
CALLER: What an honor to speak to you, Rush.
RUSH: Thank you, sir. You bet.
CALLER: I wanted to know why the Republican leaders haven’t asked for the resignation of Harry Reid? We’re six weeks out of an election. The Democrats are calling for Hastert’s resignation. They’re basically building up a lot of political clout against this man, and I want to know where the Republicans are on this.
RUSH: Well, I’ll answer this again. Number one: The Republicans don’t have to say anything because we’re doing their job for them here. Number two, it’s just not in them. They just don’t operate this way. You could ask this about virtually everything. When the whole Foley thing came, where were they there? They were running around like scared dogs with their tails between their legs or their other body orifices.
CALLER: Then they deserve to lose then if they’re not going to get up and —
RUSH: No, no, no! WE don’t deserve to lose. Screw these guys! WE don’t deserve to lose! WE don’t deserve to have Democrats running this country at this point in our nation’s history. That’s not what this is about. Let me tell you something. There’s a USA Today columnist, and I forget his name right now. There’s a columnist at USA Today who heard me say that everybody’s looking at this the wrong way. The media has got everybody focused on: “Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose the House? Will Republicans lose the Senate?” and I said in a brilliant monolog earlier this week, “What if the Democrats lose? If they can’t win in this kind of climate and environment, they don’t even deserve to be a political party.
And this guy picked up on it, thinks I have a point, starts examining whether or not the Democrats have even earned the right to govern. He’s a media guy. He begrudgingly acknowledges that I have a point. This whole thing needs to be turned around in terms of looking at the context. Why is it that the reporting day in and day out is always focused on Republicans lose, Republicans lose the House, Republicans lose the Senate. We really don’t hear a whole lot of focus on the Democrats doing this to win back the Senate, the Democrats doing this to win back the House. What we hear are never ending stories about how people hate Republicans, and we are never told that the people of this country have anything other than total adoration and love for Democrats.
If you’re to believe the mainstream press, there isn’t one Democrat who’s going to get one negative vote, who’s going to lose an election in this race. There isn’t one American who has any gripe with any Democrat. All the gripes are aimed at Republicans. Well, we know that’s BS. There are 20 million of us, and we have gripes with Democrats. We’re being totally ignored in this context. So, you know, when you say the Republicans deserve to lose, we don’t deserve to lose is the way to look at this. We certainly don’t deserve to have this nation governed by lightweights like Nancy Pelosi and dangerous people like Chuck Rangel who will raise anybody’s taxes faster than he can go to the bathroom after winning the race. These guys, they portend policies that will reverse very nice economic directions that the country is headed in. Anyway, why don’t the Republicans come up? Who knows? They don’t want to be attacked themselves. Maybe they’ve got things they’re hiding. Who the hell knows? All I know is, they don’t ever do it.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:01 amRUSH: Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, I asked, “Where is the Drive-By Media on the Harry Reid story?” I was pointed to a blog called the Strata-Sphere (it’s put together by a guy named A. J. Strata, hence the name Strata-Sphere) and I printed out 18 pages. These 18 pages are of Harry Reid land deals in Nevada and Arizona. I don’t know when the guy has had time to be a senator. This is… I’m holding them up here for those of you watching (glad you’re with us) on the Dittocam. This stuff, it goes on and on and on, these are official records, somebody just went to the website, looked the stuff up, sale prices, who owned what, who lent what, who borrowed what, and this is just the real estate deals. It’s inconceivable that this is it.
I wonder what else the guy is into. It’s mind-boggling here, and of course the lead item here at the Strata-Sphere blog is the Reid kickbacks. “Folks, head to the comments section where long time reader SBD is working his usual magic and posting multiple real estate transactions with one Harry Reid regarding properties in NV and buyers/sellers from all over (including my home town of McLean VA). I wonder how many of these reports made it accurately into the public record?” And then somebody, “hey nancy – start with your swamp before you think about draining ours.” This is — really, folks, it is very serious, and now people are beginning to look into whether — this came up on this program yesterday. We’re on the cutting edge, societal evolution.
People are beginning to wonder whether Reid’s son Rory was on the county commission when these zoning changes took place, and if he was on the commission, did he recuse himself. Some of the people on the commission are long-time Harry Reid flunkies anyway. We’ve learned that much. But some of these votes they’re wondering if Rory Reid, Harry Reid’s son, recused himself or just went ahead and voted. This isn’t known. But surely, ladies and gentlemen, the Drive-By Media will look into all of this, right? Surely they will. The Drive-By Media — in fact, let’s go to last night’s World News Tonight, and let’s see what our old buddy Brian Ross was busy investigating while the Dingy Harry scandal was unfolding.
ROSS: Twenty three-year-old Marine Sergeant Heather Cerveny was sent to Guantanamo Bay in late September as a legal aid to a Marine lawyer representing a detainee. In a sworn affidavit filed with the Pentagon inspector general, Cerveny says she met several Navy prison guards at an on-base club where, over drinks —
RUSH: Stop the tape. Has anybody heard the name Harry Reid here yet in Brian Ross’s report? What are we getting here? We’re getting another story about how unfortunate people are treated at Club Gitmo. I’ve been listening for Harry Reid. Here’s the rest of it.
ROSS: In detail, harsh physical abuse of the detainees.
RUSH: Yeah.
CERVENY: The one sailor specifically said, “I took the detainee by the head and smashed his head into the cell door.” Other ones specifically saying, “You know, today, that guy was annoying me, you know, I smacked him in the head.”
ROSS: The new allegations come as the military and the White House have insisted any problems at Guantanamo in the treatment of detainees have long since been fixed.
RUSH: And there you have it, Brian Ross, our buddy from ABC, on the case, ladies and gentlemen, following up a story at Club Gitmo about which nobody’s heard anything. Breaking news, from the investigative unit of ABC on Club Gitmo! Meanwhile, Dingy Harry was out in Nevada yesterday, and he said this about collecting $1.1 million on a land deal. Remember this land deal, there’s something strange about this. He’s in league with a guy named Jay Brown who, according to all kinds of documentation, has been investigated by the feds for suspicious activity with organized crime and so forth. Dingy Harry buys a plot of land for $400,000 and sells it back for the identical figure without even any interest accrual or inflation accrual. Now, who does that? And then six years later, after selling it back for 400 grand, the property flips, Dingy Harry turns it into 175% profit that. That outdoes anything ExxonMobil has ever done: $1.1 million — and he was commenting on this yesterday. He’s off mike in this sound bite. Let’s listen to it, and if it’s hard to understand, I will translate, because I have the transcript.
REID: As we speak we’re checking it out, if there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.
RUSH: Okay. “As we speak, we’re checking it out,” Dingy Harry said. “If there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.” That’s what’s suspicious about this. Who sells something that has obviously escalated in value for the same price you bought it at without even inflating it for the inflation value of money, or the inflation rise in money or any kind of interest. Now, look how willing he is to pay a fine, ladies and gentlemen — and he’s still looking into it. “We’re checking it out.” Meanwhile, the calls for Denny Hastert and Republicans to resign over the Foley case get louder and louder and louder. Meanwhile, all the news about the Foley case keeps expanding and expanding and expanding. People are publishing private e-mails between Foley and Governor Jeb Bush that have nothing to do with anything, trying to keep that story alive.
Listen to this. This is so sweet! It is a Reuters story: “Media outlets are finding it harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover without losing scoops to blogs and other competitors, the editor of online magazine Slate said yesterday.” This is Jacob Weisberg at a Reuters Newsmaker event. He said, “I very much agree that we need to have standards but I think in practical terms we don’t control what people find out anymore.” (laughing) Oh, yes! That, ladies and gentlemen, is it in a nutshell, the end of the Drive-By Media, and they know it. “We don’t control what people find out anymore.” From that may we presume, assume, infer that at one time they know they “controlled what people found out,” meaning you. Now the lid’s blown, and they have lost control, and what a topic. Harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover. Well, now, what politician’s privacy do you want to protect? Dingy Harry’s, maybe? Democrat politicians? Is that who it is, the privacy you’re concerned about? And stars? Why, who would those stars be? What a topic.
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RUSH: A question, ladies and gentlemen. If it were Bill Frist about whom kickbacks and shady land deals had been exposed, do you think there would be any interest in it in the Drive-By Media and do you think Democrats throughout the Senate would be demanding full disclosure and a full investigation? Yes. Do you hear any Republicans demanding anything against Dingy Harry? No. Do you hear of the Drive-By Media? You see stories out there. AP has a follow-up today, and I saw a little bit on MSNBC this morning, but it was almost like they did it in a perfunctory fashion. They couldn’t wait to get back to Foley, and they’re still talking about the Cory Lidle airplane accident and the ensuing investigation.
There are some media outlets out there touching on this. The Philadelphia Inquirer in an editorial today titled, “Practice What You Preach — That’s how this case looks, too. Unless Reid comes up with a better explanation for this lack of disclosure, Democrats should not keep him as their leader in the new Congress in 2007.” That’s the Philadelphia Inquirer. Here is the Washington Post. “for Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) is that he was sloppy about financial disclosure rules in accounting for a real estate deal on which he made a $700,000 profit.” That’s 175% more than ExxonMobil. “The more unattractive case is that the senator’s inaccurate description of the investment was an effort to disguise his partnership with a Las Vegas lawyer who’s never been charged with wrongdoing but whose name has surfaced in federal investigations involving organized crime, casinos and political bribery since the 1980s… It’s true — under the inadequate financial disclosure rules — that even if Mr. Reid had listed the newly formed corporation, Patrick Lane LLC, that wouldn’t have by itself demonstrated Mr. Brown’s involvement. Nonetheless, that Mr. Reid no longer owned the land, but instead had sold it for an interest in the Patrick Lane corporation, was not some mere ‘technical change,’ as the senator would like to brush it off. It’s an essential element of financial disclosure rules, the purpose of which is to know how and with whom public officials are financially entwined.”
Hey, Post people? Fred Hyatt, editorial page. Go to Strata-Sphere.com, if you can bear to look at a conservative blog and just take a look at the 18 printed pages. When you look at it, there’s nothing in them that rings suspicious. It’s just public records of sales, loans, and so forth involving Dingy Harry and his wife, but for crying out loud, what does this guy make? You know, I look at everything from — and a lot of other people do, too, and it’s a mistake to do this — but I look at these guys, what does a senator make, $165,200 (leaders make $180,100). We know that the Democratic side of the Senate is populated with considerable wealth. More millionaires, multimillionaires on the Democrat side than on the Republican side and that’s always struck me odd when the Democrats say that they have an understanding with the common man. By the way, you common people know who you are, and the Democrats, they’re able to “relate” to you
They understand. I’m going to just tell all you common people out there, you couldn’t get close to accomplishing what Dingy Harry has accomplished, apparently over and over and over and over again. If the ethics committee really digs deep into this, this investigation is going to going on for a long, long time. Now, why do you suppose the Washington Post and the Philadelphia Inquirer and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution are editorializing on this and suggesting that Dingy Harry has a lot of explaining to do? I mean, why are they not ignoring it? Why are they not sweeping it under the rug? I don’t want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but not too many people read the editorials. They read op-eds, but there aren’t too many people that read the editorials in a newspaper.
They’re boring. They’re literally boring. They’re the worst written aspect of the newspaper. So it’s a way to get it in the paper without getting it in the paper. But when they do write these editorials they’re pretty cutting to Dingy Harry. And I think that there’s a bit of a concern on some of these papers’ parts, “This is just too close to the election for this to come out. If this guy is a problem, we’ve gotta do something about it, we’ve gotta make sure that we aren’t appearing to sweep it under the rug here at our paper,” and so forth and so on. I’m just hazarding a guess. What does the Journal-Constitution say? Well… “Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid would be well advised to stop thundering about corruption in the Republican ranks, or crying cover-up over the GOP’s failure to promptly and appropriately deal with Mark Foley.
“Reid faces too many questions about his own behavior to crusade about the misdeeds of others. Currently he’s trying to explain a land deal in Nevada on which he made a pile of money and which may not have been properly disclosed. When the property was sold in 2004, it belonged to a company formed with a long-time friend and included a parcel that once had belonged to Harry Reid. Despite having transferred his parcel to the company, for the same amount of loot that he bought it for, the Nevada Democrat continued to report in Senate Democrats he still owned it personally. That’s a breach of Senate disclosure rules, according to the AP, which first reported the transaction details.” Now, that is pretty stunning. We’ve covered this.
He continued to report in Senate documents he still owned it personally. He wants to say, “Well, it’s an oversight. I’ll go and pay a fine. I’ll fix it.” When you look at the number of land deals that Dingy Harry is involved in, you find out this is a full-time involvement in it he has. This is not something going on in the ten or 20% of his day that he doesn’t have to do Senate business or what have you, or party business. When you look at these documents — we’ll link to it at RushLimbaugh.com. We’ll put it up there so you can look at it yourself. This is an ongoing enterprise, and these kinds of things people do not do hands off with no attention being paid and just verbal agreements, “Oh, yeah, you go ahead and take this 400 grand. I’ll give it back to you. I’ll forget that I sold it to you. I’ll pretend I still own it, then you can pay me.” It’s hard to believe.
“Reid is now considering whether he should amend his disclosure statement. Two months ago the Los Angeles Times reported that Reid had smoothed the way for a campaign contributor and friend to develop a huge tract of land northeast of Las Vegas. Reid tried twice before he was successful to get a utility right-of-way moved from a proposed development site on to public land.” By the way, at RushLimbaugh.com there’s a LA Times story from the nineties that we dug up a long time ago that is amazingly detailed and illustrative of the workings of the Dingy Harry family in Las Vegas and how they’re all intertwined, and nobody cared about that when it came out, either, but we’ve got it permanently linked in our Essential Stack of Stuff. We’ve got it highlighted on the front page so that you can access it as well.
“The first effort of Harry Reid’s stall because of objections from the Bureau of Land Management and others that the developer wasn’t going to pay for anything for a deal that would greatly increase the value of his development site. Eventually, though, it was determined that the developer should pay the federal government more than $10 million. Then there are the free boxing tickets that Reid took from the Nevada Athletic Commission. The panel was hoping to block formation of a national boxing commission. Reid favored one. Only after the AP reported this summer that Reid got the expensive tickets did Reid decide he no longer accept such gifts. Unfortunately, Reid’s ethics meter only seems to work when it’s too late.” This was written by David McNaughton for the editorial board. They actually signed this editorial: David McNaughton for the Atlanta Journal and Constitution — and then Jed Babbin wants to know why is it that none of the major TV networks or newspapers have managed to pay attention to the biggest real scandal of this season, and that is Dingy Harry Reid. Be calm, ladies and gentlemen. Be cool. At some point they’ll not be able to avoid this.
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RUSH: Not to make a big deal out of this, ladies and gentlemen, but falsifying the report as Dingy Harry Greed apparently did is a federal crime, under Title 18, United States Code section 1001. It’s a false statement for which Reid could be sent to jail, according to the statute. Now, as Jed Babbin says, “If you’re looking for this on tonight’s network news or on the front page of tomorrow’s New York Times next to the latest Foley reveal, you won’t find it.” MSNBC, as I said, did a little blurb on this today, this morning in addition to the original AP story here, and let me just highlight some things that are relatively new.
“Other parts of the deal such as the informal handling of property taxes raise questions about possible gifts or income reportable to Congress and the IRS, ethics experts said. Reid and his wife Landra personally signed the deed, selling their full interest in the property to this Jay Brown’s company, Patrick Lane, LLC, for the same $400,000 they paid in 1998.” Now, you buy something for 400 grand in 1998, you sell it back four years later for the same amount of money? No inflation even factored in, much less interest? Come on! Who does this? (interruption) Real estate wasn’t booming? (laughing) Real estate wasn’t booming. What was this? This was at the height of the Clinton economic nineties, Mr. Snerdley! Don’t tell me real estate wasn’t booming.
Now, despite the sale, Dingy Harry “continued to report on his public ethics reports that he personally owned the land until it was sold again in 2004.” So it was six years. He claimed he owned it for six years when he didn’t. “His disclosure forms to Congress don’t mention an interest in Patrick Lane or the company’s role in the ‘04 sale. Reid isn’t listed anywhere on Patrick Lane’s corporate filings with Nevada even though the land he sold accounted for three-quarters of the company’s assets. Brown is listed as the company’s manager. Reid’s office said Nevada law didn’t require Dingy Harry to be mentioned in the filings.
“Ethics experts say such informality raises questions about whether any of Jay Brown’s tax payments amounted to a benefit for Reid. It might end up having been a gift. For years, Reid also had been encouraging the interior department to make land swaps on behalf of Del Webb, where one of his former aides worked.” We’ve been through all of this. Here’s the rezoning aspect. This is cool. “Clark County intended for the property that Reid owned to be used solely for new housing. Just days before the Harry Reid sold the parcels to Brown’s company, Brown sought permission in May of 2001 to rezone the property so a shopping center could be built. Career zoning officials objected saying the request was inconsistent with Clark County’s master development plan.
“The town board in Spring Valley where Reid’s property was located also voted 4-1 to reject the rezoning, but Jay Brown persisted. The Clark County zoning board followed by the Clark County commission voted to overrule the recommendation and approve commercial zoning so the shopping center could be built. Such votes were common at the time. Before the approval in September 2001, Brown’s consultant told commissioners that Reid was involved. Mr. Brown’s partners: ‘Harry Reid, I think we’ve people in this community you can trust to go forward put a quality project before you.’” Harry’s in on this; no need to sweat it! So now people are wondering whether Dingy Harry’s son Rory had anything to do with any of these votes. Andrew in Clifton, New Jersey, I’m glad you called. Welcome. You’re first on Open Line Friday, and welcome.
CALLER: What an honor to speak to you, Rush.
RUSH: Thank you, sir. You bet.
CALLER: I wanted to know why the Republican leaders haven’t asked for the resignation of Harry Reid? We’re six weeks out of an election. The Democrats are calling for Hastert’s resignation. They’re basically building up a lot of political clout against this man, and I want to know where the Republicans are on this.
RUSH: Well, I’ll answer this again. Number one: The Republicans don’t have to say anything because we’re doing their job for them here. Number two, it’s just not in them. They just don’t operate this way. You could ask this about virtually everything. When the whole Foley thing came, where were they there? They were running around like scared dogs with their tails between their legs or their other body orifices.
CALLER: Then they deserve to lose then if they’re not going to get up and —
RUSH: No, no, no! WE don’t deserve to lose. Screw these guys! WE don’t deserve to lose! WE don’t deserve to have Democrats running this country at this point in our nation’s history. That’s not what this is about. Let me tell you something. There’s a USA Today columnist, and I forget his name right now. There’s a columnist at USA Today who heard me say that everybody’s looking at this the wrong way. The media has got everybody focused on: “Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose the House? Will Republicans lose the Senate?” and I said in a brilliant monolog earlier this week, “What if the Democrats lose? If they can’t win in this kind of climate and environment, they don’t even deserve to be a political party.
And this guy picked up on it, thinks I have a point, starts examining whether or not the Democrats have even earned the right to govern. He’s a media guy. He begrudgingly acknowledges that I have a point. This whole thing needs to be turned around in terms of looking at the context. Why is it that the reporting day in and day out is always focused on Republicans lose, Republicans lose the House, Republicans lose the Senate. We really don’t hear a whole lot of focus on the Democrats doing this to win back the Senate, the Democrats doing this to win back the House. What we hear are never ending stories about how people hate Republicans, and we are never told that the people of this country have anything other than total adoration and love for Democrats.
If you’re to believe the mainstream press, there isn’t one Democrat who’s going to get one negative vote, who’s going to lose an election in this race. There isn’t one American who has any gripe with any Democrat. All the gripes are aimed at Republicans. Well, we know that’s BS. There are 20 million of us, and we have gripes with Democrats. We’re being totally ignored in this context. So, you know, when you say the Republicans deserve to lose, we don’t deserve to lose is the way to look at this. We certainly don’t deserve to have this nation governed by lightweights like Nancy Pelosi and dangerous people like Chuck Rangel who will raise anybody’s taxes faster than he can go to the bathroom after winning the race. These guys, they portend policies that will reverse very nice economic directions that the country is headed in. Anyway, why don’t the Republicans come up? Who knows? They don’t want to be attacked themselves. Maybe they’ve got things they’re hiding. Who the hell knows? All I know is, they don’t ever do it.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:01 amRUSH: Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, I asked, “Where is the Drive-By Media on the Harry Reid story?” I was pointed to a blog called the Strata-Sphere (it’s put together by a guy named A. J. Strata, hence the name Strata-Sphere) and I printed out 18 pages. These 18 pages are of Harry Reid land deals in Nevada and Arizona. I don’t know when the guy has had time to be a senator. This is… I’m holding them up here for those of you watching (glad you’re with us) on the Dittocam. This stuff, it goes on and on and on, these are official records, somebody just went to the website, looked the stuff up, sale prices, who owned what, who lent what, who borrowed what, and this is just the real estate deals. It’s inconceivable that this is it.
I wonder what else the guy is into. It’s mind-boggling here, and of course the lead item here at the Strata-Sphere blog is the Reid kickbacks. “Folks, head to the comments section where long time reader SBD is working his usual magic and posting multiple real estate transactions with one Harry Reid regarding properties in NV and buyers/sellers from all over (including my home town of McLean VA). I wonder how many of these reports made it accurately into the public record?” And then somebody, “hey nancy – start with your swamp before you think about draining ours.” This is — really, folks, it is very serious, and now people are beginning to look into whether — this came up on this program yesterday. We’re on the cutting edge, societal evolution.
People are beginning to wonder whether Reid’s son Rory was on the county commission when these zoning changes took place, and if he was on the commission, did he recuse himself. Some of the people on the commission are long-time Harry Reid flunkies anyway. We’ve learned that much. But some of these votes they’re wondering if Rory Reid, Harry Reid’s son, recused himself or just went ahead and voted. This isn’t known. But surely, ladies and gentlemen, the Drive-By Media will look into all of this, right? Surely they will. The Drive-By Media — in fact, let’s go to last night’s World News Tonight, and let’s see what our old buddy Brian Ross was busy investigating while the Dingy Harry scandal was unfolding.
ROSS: Twenty three-year-old Marine Sergeant Heather Cerveny was sent to Guantanamo Bay in late September as a legal aid to a Marine lawyer representing a detainee. In a sworn affidavit filed with the Pentagon inspector general, Cerveny says she met several Navy prison guards at an on-base club where, over drinks —
RUSH: Stop the tape. Has anybody heard the name Harry Reid here yet in Brian Ross’s report? What are we getting here? We’re getting another story about how unfortunate people are treated at Club Gitmo. I’ve been listening for Harry Reid. Here’s the rest of it.
ROSS: In detail, harsh physical abuse of the detainees.
RUSH: Yeah.
CERVENY: The one sailor specifically said, “I took the detainee by the head and smashed his head into the cell door.” Other ones specifically saying, “You know, today, that guy was annoying me, you know, I smacked him in the head.”
ROSS: The new allegations come as the military and the White House have insisted any problems at Guantanamo in the treatment of detainees have long since been fixed.
RUSH: And there you have it, Brian Ross, our buddy from ABC, on the case, ladies and gentlemen, following up a story at Club Gitmo about which nobody’s heard anything. Breaking news, from the investigative unit of ABC on Club Gitmo! Meanwhile, Dingy Harry was out in Nevada yesterday, and he said this about collecting $1.1 million on a land deal. Remember this land deal, there’s something strange about this. He’s in league with a guy named Jay Brown who, according to all kinds of documentation, has been investigated by the feds for suspicious activity with organized crime and so forth. Dingy Harry buys a plot of land for $400,000 and sells it back for the identical figure without even any interest accrual or inflation accrual. Now, who does that? And then six years later, after selling it back for 400 grand, the property flips, Dingy Harry turns it into 175% profit that. That outdoes anything ExxonMobil has ever done: $1.1 million — and he was commenting on this yesterday. He’s off mike in this sound bite. Let’s listen to it, and if it’s hard to understand, I will translate, because I have the transcript.
REID: As we speak we’re checking it out, if there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.
RUSH: Okay. “As we speak, we’re checking it out,” Dingy Harry said. “If there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.” That’s what’s suspicious about this. Who sells something that has obviously escalated in value for the same price you bought it at without even inflating it for the inflation value of money, or the inflation rise in money or any kind of interest. Now, look how willing he is to pay a fine, ladies and gentlemen — and he’s still looking into it. “We’re checking it out.” Meanwhile, the calls for Denny Hastert and Republicans to resign over the Foley case get louder and louder and louder. Meanwhile, all the news about the Foley case keeps expanding and expanding and expanding. People are publishing private e-mails between Foley and Governor Jeb Bush that have nothing to do with anything, trying to keep that story alive.
Listen to this. This is so sweet! It is a Reuters story: “Media outlets are finding it harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover without losing scoops to blogs and other competitors, the editor of online magazine Slate said yesterday.” This is Jacob Weisberg at a Reuters Newsmaker event. He said, “I very much agree that we need to have standards but I think in practical terms we don’t control what people find out anymore.” (laughing) Oh, yes! That, ladies and gentlemen, is it in a nutshell, the end of the Drive-By Media, and they know it. “We don’t control what people find out anymore.” From that may we presume, assume, infer that at one time they know they “controlled what people found out,” meaning you. Now the lid’s blown, and they have lost control, and what a topic. Harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover. Well, now, what politician’s privacy do you want to protect? Dingy Harry’s, maybe? Democrat politicians? Is that who it is, the privacy you’re concerned about? And stars? Why, who would those stars be? What a topic.
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RUSH: A question, ladies and gentlemen. If it were Bill Frist about whom kickbacks and shady land deals had been exposed, do you think there would be any interest in it in the Drive-By Media and do you think Democrats throughout the Senate would be demanding full disclosure and a full investigation? Yes. Do you hear any Republicans demanding anything against Dingy Harry? No. Do you hear of the Drive-By Media? You see stories out there. AP has a follow-up today, and I saw a little bit on MSNBC this morning, but it was almost like they did it in a perfunctory fashion. They couldn’t wait to get back to Foley, and they’re still talking about the Cory Lidle airplane accident and the ensuing investigation.
There are some media outlets out there touching on this. The Philadelphia Inquirer in an editorial today titled, “Practice What You Preach — That’s how this case looks, too. Unless Reid comes up with a better explanation for this lack of disclosure, Democrats should not keep him as their leader in the new Congress in 2007.” That’s the Philadelphia Inquirer. Here is the Washington Post. “for Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) is that he was sloppy about financial disclosure rules in accounting for a real estate deal on which he made a $700,000 profit.” That’s 175% more than ExxonMobil. “The more unattractive case is that the senator’s inaccurate description of the investment was an effort to disguise his partnership with a Las Vegas lawyer who’s never been charged with wrongdoing but whose name has surfaced in federal investigations involving organized crime, casinos and political bribery since the 1980s… It’s true — under the inadequate financial disclosure rules — that even if Mr. Reid had listed the newly formed corporation, Patrick Lane LLC, that wouldn’t have by itself demonstrated Mr. Brown’s involvement. Nonetheless, that Mr. Reid no longer owned the land, but instead had sold it for an interest in the Patrick Lane corporation, was not some mere ‘technical change,’ as the senator would like to brush it off. It’s an essential element of financial disclosure rules, the purpose of which is to know how and with whom public officials are financially entwined.”
Hey, Post people? Fred Hyatt, editorial page. Go to Strata-Sphere.com, if you can bear to look at a conservative blog and just take a look at the 18 printed pages. When you look at it, there’s nothing in them that rings suspicious. It’s just public records of sales, loans, and so forth involving Dingy Harry and his wife, but for crying out loud, what does this guy make? You know, I look at everything from — and a lot of other people do, too, and it’s a mistake to do this — but I look at these guys, what does a senator make, $165,200 (leaders make $180,100). We know that the Democratic side of the Senate is populated with considerable wealth. More millionaires, multimillionaires on the Democrat side than on the Republican side and that’s always struck me odd when the Democrats say that they have an understanding with the common man. By the way, you common people know who you are, and the Democrats, they’re able to “relate” to you
They understand. I’m going to just tell all you common people out there, you couldn’t get close to accomplishing what Dingy Harry has accomplished, apparently over and over and over and over again. If the ethics committee really digs deep into this, this investigation is going to going on for a long, long time. Now, why do you suppose the Washington Post and the Philadelphia Inquirer and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution are editorializing on this and suggesting that Dingy Harry has a lot of explaining to do? I mean, why are they not ignoring it? Why are they not sweeping it under the rug? I don’t want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but not too many people read the editorials. They read op-eds, but there aren’t too many people that read the editorials in a newspaper.
They’re boring. They’re literally boring. They’re the worst written aspect of the newspaper. So it’s a way to get it in the paper without getting it in the paper. But when they do write these editorials they’re pretty cutting to Dingy Harry. And I think that there’s a bit of a concern on some of these papers’ parts, “This is just too close to the election for this to come out. If this guy is a problem, we’ve gotta do something about it, we’ve gotta make sure that we aren’t appearing to sweep it under the rug here at our paper,” and so forth and so on. I’m just hazarding a guess. What does the Journal-Constitution say? Well… “Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid would be well advised to stop thundering about corruption in the Republican ranks, or crying cover-up over the GOP’s failure to promptly and appropriately deal with Mark Foley.
“Reid faces too many questions about his own behavior to crusade about the misdeeds of others. Currently he’s trying to explain a land deal in Nevada on which he made a pile of money and which may not have been properly disclosed. When the property was sold in 2004, it belonged to a company formed with a long-time friend and included a parcel that once had belonged to Harry Reid. Despite having transferred his parcel to the company, for the same amount of loot that he bought it for, the Nevada Democrat continued to report in Senate Democrats he still owned it personally. That’s a breach of Senate disclosure rules, according to the AP, which first reported the transaction details.” Now, that is pretty stunning. We’ve covered this.
He continued to report in Senate documents he still owned it personally. He wants to say, “Well, it’s an oversight. I’ll go and pay a fine. I’ll fix it.” When you look at the number of land deals that Dingy Harry is involved in, you find out this is a full-time involvement in it he has. This is not something going on in the ten or 20% of his day that he doesn’t have to do Senate business or what have you, or party business. When you look at these documents — we’ll link to it at RushLimbaugh.com. We’ll put it up there so you can look at it yourself. This is an ongoing enterprise, and these kinds of things people do not do hands off with no attention being paid and just verbal agreements, “Oh, yeah, you go ahead and take this 400 grand. I’ll give it back to you. I’ll forget that I sold it to you. I’ll pretend I still own it, then you can pay me.” It’s hard to believe.
“Reid is now considering whether he should amend his disclosure statement. Two months ago the Los Angeles Times reported that Reid had smoothed the way for a campaign contributor and friend to develop a huge tract of land northeast of Las Vegas. Reid tried twice before he was successful to get a utility right-of-way moved from a proposed development site on to public land.” By the way, at RushLimbaugh.com there’s a LA Times story from the nineties that we dug up a long time ago that is amazingly detailed and illustrative of the workings of the Dingy Harry family in Las Vegas and how they’re all intertwined, and nobody cared about that when it came out, either, but we’ve got it permanently linked in our Essential Stack of Stuff. We’ve got it highlighted on the front page so that you can access it as well.
“The first effort of Harry Reid’s stall because of objections from the Bureau of Land Management and others that the developer wasn’t going to pay for anything for a deal that would greatly increase the value of his development site. Eventually, though, it was determined that the developer should pay the federal government more than $10 million. Then there are the free boxing tickets that Reid took from the Nevada Athletic Commission. The panel was hoping to block formation of a national boxing commission. Reid favored one. Only after the AP reported this summer that Reid got the expensive tickets did Reid decide he no longer accept such gifts. Unfortunately, Reid’s ethics meter only seems to work when it’s too late.” This was written by David McNaughton for the editorial board. They actually signed this editorial: David McNaughton for the Atlanta Journal and Constitution — and then Jed Babbin wants to know why is it that none of the major TV networks or newspapers have managed to pay attention to the biggest real scandal of this season, and that is Dingy Harry Reid. Be calm, ladies and gentlemen. Be cool. At some point they’ll not be able to avoid this.
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RUSH: Not to make a big deal out of this, ladies and gentlemen, but falsifying the report as Dingy Harry Greed apparently did is a federal crime, under Title 18, United States Code section 1001. It’s a false statement for which Reid could be sent to jail, according to the statute. Now, as Jed Babbin says, “If you’re looking for this on tonight’s network news or on the front page of tomorrow’s New York Times next to the latest Foley reveal, you won’t find it.” MSNBC, as I said, did a little blurb on this today, this morning in addition to the original AP story here, and let me just highlight some things that are relatively new.
“Other parts of the deal such as the informal handling of property taxes raise questions about possible gifts or income reportable to Congress and the IRS, ethics experts said. Reid and his wife Landra personally signed the deed, selling their full interest in the property to this Jay Brown’s company, Patrick Lane, LLC, for the same $400,000 they paid in 1998.” Now, you buy something for 400 grand in 1998, you sell it back four years later for the same amount of money? No inflation even factored in, much less interest? Come on! Who does this? (interruption) Real estate wasn’t booming? (laughing) Real estate wasn’t booming. What was this? This was at the height of the Clinton economic nineties, Mr. Snerdley! Don’t tell me real estate wasn’t booming.
Now, despite the sale, Dingy Harry “continued to report on his public ethics reports that he personally owned the land until it was sold again in 2004.” So it was six years. He claimed he owned it for six years when he didn’t. “His disclosure forms to Congress don’t mention an interest in Patrick Lane or the company’s role in the ‘04 sale. Reid isn’t listed anywhere on Patrick Lane’s corporate filings with Nevada even though the land he sold accounted for three-quarters of the company’s assets. Brown is listed as the company’s manager. Reid’s office said Nevada law didn’t require Dingy Harry to be mentioned in the filings.
“Ethics experts say such informality raises questions about whether any of Jay Brown’s tax payments amounted to a benefit for Reid. It might end up having been a gift. For years, Reid also had been encouraging the interior department to make land swaps on behalf of Del Webb, where one of his former aides worked.” We’ve been through all of this. Here’s the rezoning aspect. This is cool. “Clark County intended for the property that Reid owned to be used solely for new housing. Just days before the Harry Reid sold the parcels to Brown’s company, Brown sought permission in May of 2001 to rezone the property so a shopping center could be built. Career zoning officials objected saying the request was inconsistent with Clark County’s master development plan.
“The town board in Spring Valley where Reid’s property was located also voted 4-1 to reject the rezoning, but Jay Brown persisted. The Clark County zoning board followed by the Clark County commission voted to overrule the recommendation and approve commercial zoning so the shopping center could be built. Such votes were common at the time. Before the approval in September 2001, Brown’s consultant told commissioners that Reid was involved. Mr. Brown’s partners: ‘Harry Reid, I think we’ve people in this community you can trust to go forward put a quality project before you.’” Harry’s in on this; no need to sweat it! So now people are wondering whether Dingy Harry’s son Rory had anything to do with any of these votes. Andrew in Clifton, New Jersey, I’m glad you called. Welcome. You’re first on Open Line Friday, and welcome.
CALLER: What an honor to speak to you, Rush.
RUSH: Thank you, sir. You bet.
CALLER: I wanted to know why the Republican leaders haven’t asked for the resignation of Harry Reid? We’re six weeks out of an election. The Democrats are calling for Hastert’s resignation. They’re basically building up a lot of political clout against this man, and I want to know where the Republicans are on this.
RUSH: Well, I’ll answer this again. Number one: The Republicans don’t have to say anything because we’re doing their job for them here. Number two, it’s just not in them. They just don’t operate this way. You could ask this about virtually everything. When the whole Foley thing came, where were they there? They were running around like scared dogs with their tails between their legs or their other body orifices.
CALLER: Then they deserve to lose then if they’re not going to get up and —
RUSH: No, no, no! WE don’t deserve to lose. Screw these guys! WE don’t deserve to lose! WE don’t deserve to have Democrats running this country at this point in our nation’s history. That’s not what this is about. Let me tell you something. There’s a USA Today columnist, and I forget his name right now. There’s a columnist at USA Today who heard me say that everybody’s looking at this the wrong way. The media has got everybody focused on: “Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose the House? Will Republicans lose the Senate?” and I said in a brilliant monolog earlier this week, “What if the Democrats lose? If they can’t win in this kind of climate and environment, they don’t even deserve to be a political party.
And this guy picked up on it, thinks I have a point, starts examining whether or not the Democrats have even earned the right to govern. He’s a media guy. He begrudgingly acknowledges that I have a point. This whole thing needs to be turned around in terms of looking at the context. Why is it that the reporting day in and day out is always focused on Republicans lose, Republicans lose the House, Republicans lose the Senate. We really don’t hear a whole lot of focus on the Democrats doing this to win back the Senate, the Democrats doing this to win back the House. What we hear are never ending stories about how people hate Republicans, and we are never told that the people of this country have anything other than total adoration and love for Democrats.
If you’re to believe the mainstream press, there isn’t one Democrat who’s going to get one negative vote, who’s going to lose an election in this race. There isn’t one American who has any gripe with any Democrat. All the gripes are aimed at Republicans. Well, we know that’s BS. There are 20 million of us, and we have gripes with Democrats. We’re being totally ignored in this context. So, you know, when you say the Republicans deserve to lose, we don’t deserve to lose is the way to look at this. We certainly don’t deserve to have this nation governed by lightweights like Nancy Pelosi and dangerous people like Chuck Rangel who will raise anybody’s taxes faster than he can go to the bathroom after winning the race. These guys, they portend policies that will reverse very nice economic directions that the country is headed in. Anyway, why don’t the Republicans come up? Who knows? They don’t want to be attacked themselves. Maybe they’ve got things they’re hiding. Who the hell knows? All I know is, they don’t ever do it.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:01 amRUSH: Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, I asked, “Where is the Drive-By Media on the Harry Reid story?” I was pointed to a blog called the Strata-Sphere (it’s put together by a guy named A. J. Strata, hence the name Strata-Sphere) and I printed out 18 pages. These 18 pages are of Harry Reid land deals in Nevada and Arizona. I don’t know when the guy has had time to be a senator. This is… I’m holding them up here for those of you watching (glad you’re with us) on the Dittocam. This stuff, it goes on and on and on, these are official records, somebody just went to the website, looked the stuff up, sale prices, who owned what, who lent what, who borrowed what, and this is just the real estate deals. It’s inconceivable that this is it.
I wonder what else the guy is into. It’s mind-boggling here, and of course the lead item here at the Strata-Sphere blog is the Reid kickbacks. “Folks, head to the comments section where long time reader SBD is working his usual magic and posting multiple real estate transactions with one Harry Reid regarding properties in NV and buyers/sellers from all over (including my home town of McLean VA). I wonder how many of these reports made it accurately into the public record?” And then somebody, “hey nancy – start with your swamp before you think about draining ours.” This is — really, folks, it is very serious, and now people are beginning to look into whether — this came up on this program yesterday. We’re on the cutting edge, societal evolution.
People are beginning to wonder whether Reid’s son Rory was on the county commission when these zoning changes took place, and if he was on the commission, did he recuse himself. Some of the people on the commission are long-time Harry Reid flunkies anyway. We’ve learned that much. But some of these votes they’re wondering if Rory Reid, Harry Reid’s son, recused himself or just went ahead and voted. This isn’t known. But surely, ladies and gentlemen, the Drive-By Media will look into all of this, right? Surely they will. The Drive-By Media — in fact, let’s go to last night’s World News Tonight, and let’s see what our old buddy Brian Ross was busy investigating while the Dingy Harry scandal was unfolding.
ROSS: Twenty three-year-old Marine Sergeant Heather Cerveny was sent to Guantanamo Bay in late September as a legal aid to a Marine lawyer representing a detainee. In a sworn affidavit filed with the Pentagon inspector general, Cerveny says she met several Navy prison guards at an on-base club where, over drinks —
RUSH: Stop the tape. Has anybody heard the name Harry Reid here yet in Brian Ross’s report? What are we getting here? We’re getting another story about how unfortunate people are treated at Club Gitmo. I’ve been listening for Harry Reid. Here’s the rest of it.
ROSS: In detail, harsh physical abuse of the detainees.
RUSH: Yeah.
CERVENY: The one sailor specifically said, “I took the detainee by the head and smashed his head into the cell door.” Other ones specifically saying, “You know, today, that guy was annoying me, you know, I smacked him in the head.”
ROSS: The new allegations come as the military and the White House have insisted any problems at Guantanamo in the treatment of detainees have long since been fixed.
RUSH: And there you have it, Brian Ross, our buddy from ABC, on the case, ladies and gentlemen, following up a story at Club Gitmo about which nobody’s heard anything. Breaking news, from the investigative unit of ABC on Club Gitmo! Meanwhile, Dingy Harry was out in Nevada yesterday, and he said this about collecting $1.1 million on a land deal. Remember this land deal, there’s something strange about this. He’s in league with a guy named Jay Brown who, according to all kinds of documentation, has been investigated by the feds for suspicious activity with organized crime and so forth. Dingy Harry buys a plot of land for $400,000 and sells it back for the identical figure without even any interest accrual or inflation accrual. Now, who does that? And then six years later, after selling it back for 400 grand, the property flips, Dingy Harry turns it into 175% profit that. That outdoes anything ExxonMobil has ever done: $1.1 million — and he was commenting on this yesterday. He’s off mike in this sound bite. Let’s listen to it, and if it’s hard to understand, I will translate, because I have the transcript.
REID: As we speak we’re checking it out, if there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.
RUSH: Okay. “As we speak, we’re checking it out,” Dingy Harry said. “If there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.” That’s what’s suspicious about this. Who sells something that has obviously escalated in value for the same price you bought it at without even inflating it for the inflation value of money, or the inflation rise in money or any kind of interest. Now, look how willing he is to pay a fine, ladies and gentlemen — and he’s still looking into it. “We’re checking it out.” Meanwhile, the calls for Denny Hastert and Republicans to resign over the Foley case get louder and louder and louder. Meanwhile, all the news about the Foley case keeps expanding and expanding and expanding. People are publishing private e-mails between Foley and Governor Jeb Bush that have nothing to do with anything, trying to keep that story alive.
Listen to this. This is so sweet! It is a Reuters story: “Media outlets are finding it harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover without losing scoops to blogs and other competitors, the editor of online magazine Slate said yesterday.” This is Jacob Weisberg at a Reuters Newsmaker event. He said, “I very much agree that we need to have standards but I think in practical terms we don’t control what people find out anymore.” (laughing) Oh, yes! That, ladies and gentlemen, is it in a nutshell, the end of the Drive-By Media, and they know it. “We don’t control what people find out anymore.” From that may we presume, assume, infer that at one time they know they “controlled what people found out,” meaning you. Now the lid’s blown, and they have lost control, and what a topic. Harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover. Well, now, what politician’s privacy do you want to protect? Dingy Harry’s, maybe? Democrat politicians? Is that who it is, the privacy you’re concerned about? And stars? Why, who would those stars be? What a topic.
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RUSH: A question, ladies and gentlemen. If it were Bill Frist about whom kickbacks and shady land deals had been exposed, do you think there would be any interest in it in the Drive-By Media and do you think Democrats throughout the Senate would be demanding full disclosure and a full investigation? Yes. Do you hear any Republicans demanding anything against Dingy Harry? No. Do you hear of the Drive-By Media? You see stories out there. AP has a follow-up today, and I saw a little bit on MSNBC this morning, but it was almost like they did it in a perfunctory fashion. They couldn’t wait to get back to Foley, and they’re still talking about the Cory Lidle airplane accident and the ensuing investigation.
There are some media outlets out there touching on this. The Philadelphia Inquirer in an editorial today titled, “Practice What You Preach — That’s how this case looks, too. Unless Reid comes up with a better explanation for this lack of disclosure, Democrats should not keep him as their leader in the new Congress in 2007.” That’s the Philadelphia Inquirer. Here is the Washington Post. “for Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) is that he was sloppy about financial disclosure rules in accounting for a real estate deal on which he made a $700,000 profit.” That’s 175% more than ExxonMobil. “The more unattractive case is that the senator’s inaccurate description of the investment was an effort to disguise his partnership with a Las Vegas lawyer who’s never been charged with wrongdoing but whose name has surfaced in federal investigations involving organized crime, casinos and political bribery since the 1980s… It’s true — under the inadequate financial disclosure rules — that even if Mr. Reid had listed the newly formed corporation, Patrick Lane LLC, that wouldn’t have by itself demonstrated Mr. Brown’s involvement. Nonetheless, that Mr. Reid no longer owned the land, but instead had sold it for an interest in the Patrick Lane corporation, was not some mere ‘technical change,’ as the senator would like to brush it off. It’s an essential element of financial disclosure rules, the purpose of which is to know how and with whom public officials are financially entwined.”
Hey, Post people? Fred Hyatt, editorial page. Go to Strata-Sphere.com, if you can bear to look at a conservative blog and just take a look at the 18 printed pages. When you look at it, there’s nothing in them that rings suspicious. It’s just public records of sales, loans, and so forth involving Dingy Harry and his wife, but for crying out loud, what does this guy make? You know, I look at everything from — and a lot of other people do, too, and it’s a mistake to do this — but I look at these guys, what does a senator make, $165,200 (leaders make $180,100). We know that the Democratic side of the Senate is populated with considerable wealth. More millionaires, multimillionaires on the Democrat side than on the Republican side and that’s always struck me odd when the Democrats say that they have an understanding with the common man. By the way, you common people know who you are, and the Democrats, they’re able to “relate” to you
They understand. I’m going to just tell all you common people out there, you couldn’t get close to accomplishing what Dingy Harry has accomplished, apparently over and over and over and over again. If the ethics committee really digs deep into this, this investigation is going to going on for a long, long time. Now, why do you suppose the Washington Post and the Philadelphia Inquirer and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution are editorializing on this and suggesting that Dingy Harry has a lot of explaining to do? I mean, why are they not ignoring it? Why are they not sweeping it under the rug? I don’t want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but not too many people read the editorials. They read op-eds, but there aren’t too many people that read the editorials in a newspaper.
They’re boring. They’re literally boring. They’re the worst written aspect of the newspaper. So it’s a way to get it in the paper without getting it in the paper. But when they do write these editorials they’re pretty cutting to Dingy Harry. And I think that there’s a bit of a concern on some of these papers’ parts, “This is just too close to the election for this to come out. If this guy is a problem, we’ve gotta do something about it, we’ve gotta make sure that we aren’t appearing to sweep it under the rug here at our paper,” and so forth and so on. I’m just hazarding a guess. What does the Journal-Constitution say? Well… “Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid would be well advised to stop thundering about corruption in the Republican ranks, or crying cover-up over the GOP’s failure to promptly and appropriately deal with Mark Foley.
“Reid faces too many questions about his own behavior to crusade about the misdeeds of others. Currently he’s trying to explain a land deal in Nevada on which he made a pile of money and which may not have been properly disclosed. When the property was sold in 2004, it belonged to a company formed with a long-time friend and included a parcel that once had belonged to Harry Reid. Despite having transferred his parcel to the company, for the same amount of loot that he bought it for, the Nevada Democrat continued to report in Senate Democrats he still owned it personally. That’s a breach of Senate disclosure rules, according to the AP, which first reported the transaction details.” Now, that is pretty stunning. We’ve covered this.
He continued to report in Senate documents he still owned it personally. He wants to say, “Well, it’s an oversight. I’ll go and pay a fine. I’ll fix it.” When you look at the number of land deals that Dingy Harry is involved in, you find out this is a full-time involvement in it he has. This is not something going on in the ten or 20% of his day that he doesn’t have to do Senate business or what have you, or party business. When you look at these documents — we’ll link to it at RushLimbaugh.com. We’ll put it up there so you can look at it yourself. This is an ongoing enterprise, and these kinds of things people do not do hands off with no attention being paid and just verbal agreements, “Oh, yeah, you go ahead and take this 400 grand. I’ll give it back to you. I’ll forget that I sold it to you. I’ll pretend I still own it, then you can pay me.” It’s hard to believe.
“Reid is now considering whether he should amend his disclosure statement. Two months ago the Los Angeles Times reported that Reid had smoothed the way for a campaign contributor and friend to develop a huge tract of land northeast of Las Vegas. Reid tried twice before he was successful to get a utility right-of-way moved from a proposed development site on to public land.” By the way, at RushLimbaugh.com there’s a LA Times story from the nineties that we dug up a long time ago that is amazingly detailed and illustrative of the workings of the Dingy Harry family in Las Vegas and how they’re all intertwined, and nobody cared about that when it came out, either, but we’ve got it permanently linked in our Essential Stack of Stuff. We’ve got it highlighted on the front page so that you can access it as well.
“The first effort of Harry Reid’s stall because of objections from the Bureau of Land Management and others that the developer wasn’t going to pay for anything for a deal that would greatly increase the value of his development site. Eventually, though, it was determined that the developer should pay the federal government more than $10 million. Then there are the free boxing tickets that Reid took from the Nevada Athletic Commission. The panel was hoping to block formation of a national boxing commission. Reid favored one. Only after the AP reported this summer that Reid got the expensive tickets did Reid decide he no longer accept such gifts. Unfortunately, Reid’s ethics meter only seems to work when it’s too late.” This was written by David McNaughton for the editorial board. They actually signed this editorial: David McNaughton for the Atlanta Journal and Constitution — and then Jed Babbin wants to know why is it that none of the major TV networks or newspapers have managed to pay attention to the biggest real scandal of this season, and that is Dingy Harry Reid. Be calm, ladies and gentlemen. Be cool. At some point they’ll not be able to avoid this.
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RUSH: Not to make a big deal out of this, ladies and gentlemen, but falsifying the report as Dingy Harry Greed apparently did is a federal crime, under Title 18, United States Code section 1001. It’s a false statement for which Reid could be sent to jail, according to the statute. Now, as Jed Babbin says, “If you’re looking for this on tonight’s network news or on the front page of tomorrow’s New York Times next to the latest Foley reveal, you won’t find it.” MSNBC, as I said, did a little blurb on this today, this morning in addition to the original AP story here, and let me just highlight some things that are relatively new.
“Other parts of the deal such as the informal handling of property taxes raise questions about possible gifts or income reportable to Congress and the IRS, ethics experts said. Reid and his wife Landra personally signed the deed, selling their full interest in the property to this Jay Brown’s company, Patrick Lane, LLC, for the same $400,000 they paid in 1998.” Now, you buy something for 400 grand in 1998, you sell it back four years later for the same amount of money? No inflation even factored in, much less interest? Come on! Who does this? (interruption) Real estate wasn’t booming? (laughing) Real estate wasn’t booming. What was this? This was at the height of the Clinton economic nineties, Mr. Snerdley! Don’t tell me real estate wasn’t booming.
Now, despite the sale, Dingy Harry “continued to report on his public ethics reports that he personally owned the land until it was sold again in 2004.” So it was six years. He claimed he owned it for six years when he didn’t. “His disclosure forms to Congress don’t mention an interest in Patrick Lane or the company’s role in the ‘04 sale. Reid isn’t listed anywhere on Patrick Lane’s corporate filings with Nevada even though the land he sold accounted for three-quarters of the company’s assets. Brown is listed as the company’s manager. Reid’s office said Nevada law didn’t require Dingy Harry to be mentioned in the filings.
“Ethics experts say such informality raises questions about whether any of Jay Brown’s tax payments amounted to a benefit for Reid. It might end up having been a gift. For years, Reid also had been encouraging the interior department to make land swaps on behalf of Del Webb, where one of his former aides worked.” We’ve been through all of this. Here’s the rezoning aspect. This is cool. “Clark County intended for the property that Reid owned to be used solely for new housing. Just days before the Harry Reid sold the parcels to Brown’s company, Brown sought permission in May of 2001 to rezone the property so a shopping center could be built. Career zoning officials objected saying the request was inconsistent with Clark County’s master development plan.
“The town board in Spring Valley where Reid’s property was located also voted 4-1 to reject the rezoning, but Jay Brown persisted. The Clark County zoning board followed by the Clark County commission voted to overrule the recommendation and approve commercial zoning so the shopping center could be built. Such votes were common at the time. Before the approval in September 2001, Brown’s consultant told commissioners that Reid was involved. Mr. Brown’s partners: ‘Harry Reid, I think we’ve people in this community you can trust to go forward put a quality project before you.’” Harry’s in on this; no need to sweat it! So now people are wondering whether Dingy Harry’s son Rory had anything to do with any of these votes. Andrew in Clifton, New Jersey, I’m glad you called. Welcome. You’re first on Open Line Friday, and welcome.
CALLER: What an honor to speak to you, Rush.
RUSH: Thank you, sir. You bet.
CALLER: I wanted to know why the Republican leaders haven’t asked for the resignation of Harry Reid? We’re six weeks out of an election. The Democrats are calling for Hastert’s resignation. They’re basically building up a lot of political clout against this man, and I want to know where the Republicans are on this.
RUSH: Well, I’ll answer this again. Number one: The Republicans don’t have to say anything because we’re doing their job for them here. Number two, it’s just not in them. They just don’t operate this way. You could ask this about virtually everything. When the whole Foley thing came, where were they there? They were running around like scared dogs with their tails between their legs or their other body orifices.
CALLER: Then they deserve to lose then if they’re not going to get up and —
RUSH: No, no, no! WE don’t deserve to lose. Screw these guys! WE don’t deserve to lose! WE don’t deserve to have Democrats running this country at this point in our nation’s history. That’s not what this is about. Let me tell you something. There’s a USA Today columnist, and I forget his name right now. There’s a columnist at USA Today who heard me say that everybody’s looking at this the wrong way. The media has got everybody focused on: “Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose the House? Will Republicans lose the Senate?” and I said in a brilliant monolog earlier this week, “What if the Democrats lose? If they can’t win in this kind of climate and environment, they don’t even deserve to be a political party.
And this guy picked up on it, thinks I have a point, starts examining whether or not the Democrats have even earned the right to govern. He’s a media guy. He begrudgingly acknowledges that I have a point. This whole thing needs to be turned around in terms of looking at the context. Why is it that the reporting day in and day out is always focused on Republicans lose, Republicans lose the House, Republicans lose the Senate. We really don’t hear a whole lot of focus on the Democrats doing this to win back the Senate, the Democrats doing this to win back the House. What we hear are never ending stories about how people hate Republicans, and we are never told that the people of this country have anything other than total adoration and love for Democrats.
If you’re to believe the mainstream press, there isn’t one Democrat who’s going to get one negative vote, who’s going to lose an election in this race. There isn’t one American who has any gripe with any Democrat. All the gripes are aimed at Republicans. Well, we know that’s BS. There are 20 million of us, and we have gripes with Democrats. We’re being totally ignored in this context. So, you know, when you say the Republicans deserve to lose, we don’t deserve to lose is the way to look at this. We certainly don’t deserve to have this nation governed by lightweights like Nancy Pelosi and dangerous people like Chuck Rangel who will raise anybody’s taxes faster than he can go to the bathroom after winning the race. These guys, they portend policies that will reverse very nice economic directions that the country is headed in. Anyway, why don’t the Republicans come up? Who knows? They don’t want to be attacked themselves. Maybe they’ve got things they’re hiding. Who the hell knows? All I know is, they don’t ever do it.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:01 amBones 2, such a long post…and pointless…again.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:06 amspamers are worst than pond scum and will, henceforth…extract zero response….
October 14th, 2006 at 12:11 amBones Two = Whiny-Assed Titty Baby.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:13 am#38 Bones two is the man. The man that can’t think for himself. The man that is not sure of his masculinity. The man that is strangely attracted to other men and it disturbs him greatly.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:14 amAll libs – you guys are like christmas ornaments – fun to look at but nobody takes you seriously. You’re a joke. Live with it.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:21 amOh and don’t be afraid to read the Sir Rush comments, you may learn something. LOVING IT. Or should I say….
ROTFL. ROTFL. ROTFL.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:22 amRUSH: Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, I asked, “Where is the Drive-By Media on the Harry Reid story?†I was pointed to a blog called the Strata-Sphere (it’s put together by a guy named A. J. Strata, hence the name Strata-Sphere) and I printed out 18 pages. These 18 pages are of Harry Reid land deals in Nevada and Arizona. I don’t know when the guy has had time to be a senator. This is… I’m holding them up here for those of you watching (glad you’re with us) on the Dittocam. This stuff, it goes on and on and on, these are official records, somebody just went to the website, looked the stuff up, sale prices, who owned what, who lent what, who borrowed what, and this is just the real estate deals. It’s inconceivable that this is it.
I wonder what else the guy is into. It’s mind-boggling here, and of course the lead item here at the Strata-Sphere blog is the Reid kickbacks. “Folks, head to the comments section where long time reader SBD is working his usual magic and posting multiple real estate transactions with one Harry Reid regarding properties in NV and buyers/sellers from all over (including my home town of McLean VA). I wonder how many of these reports made it accurately into the public record?†And then somebody, “hey nancy – start with your swamp before you think about draining ours.†This is — really, folks, it is very serious, and now people are beginning to look into whether — this came up on this program yesterday. We’re on the cutting edge, societal evolution.
People are beginning to wonder whether Reid’s son Rory was on the county commission when these zoning changes took place, and if he was on the commission, did he recuse himself. Some of the people on the commission are long-time Harry Reid flunkies anyway. We’ve learned that much. But some of these votes they’re wondering if Rory Reid, Harry Reid’s son, recused himself or just went ahead and voted. This isn’t known. But surely, ladies and gentlemen, the Drive-By Media will look into all of this, right? Surely they will. The Drive-By Media — in fact, let’s go to last night’s World News Tonight, and let’s see what our old buddy Brian Ross was busy investigating while the Dingy Harry scandal was unfolding.
ROSS: Twenty three-year-old Marine Sergeant Heather Cerveny was sent to Guantanamo Bay in late September as a legal aid to a Marine lawyer representing a detainee. In a sworn affidavit filed with the Pentagon inspector general, Cerveny says she met several Navy prison guards at an on-base club where, over drinks —
RUSH: Stop the tape. Has anybody heard the name Harry Reid here yet in Brian Ross’s report? What are we getting here? We’re getting another story about how unfortunate people are treated at Club Gitmo. I’ve been listening for Harry Reid. Here’s the rest of it.
ROSS: In detail, harsh physical abuse of the detainees.
RUSH: Yeah.
CERVENY: The one sailor specifically said, “I took the detainee by the head and smashed his head into the cell door.†Other ones specifically saying, “You know, today, that guy was annoying me, you know, I smacked him in the head.â€
ROSS: The new allegations come as the military and the White House have insisted any problems at Guantanamo in the treatment of detainees have long since been fixed.
RUSH: And there you have it, Brian Ross, our buddy from ABC, on the case, ladies and gentlemen, following up a story at Club Gitmo about which nobody’s heard anything. Breaking news, from the investigative unit of ABC on Club Gitmo! Meanwhile, Dingy Harry was out in Nevada yesterday, and he said this about collecting $1.1 million on a land deal. Remember this land deal, there’s something strange about this. He’s in league with a guy named Jay Brown who, according to all kinds of documentation, has been investigated by the feds for suspicious activity with organized crime and so forth. Dingy Harry buys a plot of land for $400,000 and sells it back for the identical figure without even any interest accrual or inflation accrual. Now, who does that? And then six years later, after selling it back for 400 grand, the property flips, Dingy Harry turns it into 175% profit that. That outdoes anything ExxonMobil has ever done: $1.1 million — and he was commenting on this yesterday. He’s off mike in this sound bite. Let’s listen to it, and if it’s hard to understand, I will translate, because I have the transcript.
REID: As we speak we’re checking it out, if there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.
RUSH: Okay. “As we speak, we’re checking it out,†Dingy Harry said. “If there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.†That’s what’s suspicious about this. Who sells something that has obviously escalated in value for the same price you bought it at without even inflating it for the inflation value of money, or the inflation rise in money or any kind of interest. Now, look how willing he is to pay a fine, ladies and gentlemen — and he’s still looking into it. “We’re checking it out.†Meanwhile, the calls for Denny Hastert and Republicans to resign over the Foley case get louder and louder and louder. Meanwhile, all the news about the Foley case keeps expanding and expanding and expanding. People are publishing private e-mails between Foley and Governor Jeb Bush that have nothing to do with anything, trying to keep that story alive.
Listen to this. This is so sweet! It is a Reuters story: “Media outlets are finding it harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover without losing scoops to blogs and other competitors, the editor of online magazine Slate said yesterday.†This is Jacob Weisberg at a Reuters Newsmaker event. He said, “I very much agree that we need to have standards but I think in practical terms we don’t control what people find out anymore.†(laughing) Oh, yes! That, ladies and gentlemen, is it in a nutshell, the end of the Drive-By Media, and they know it. “We don’t control what people find out anymore.†From that may we presume, assume, infer that at one time they know they “controlled what people found out,†meaning you. Now the lid’s blown, and they have lost control, and what a topic. Harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover. Well, now, what politician’s privacy do you want to protect? Dingy Harry’s, maybe? Democrat politicians? Is that who it is, the privacy you’re concerned about? And stars? Why, who would those stars be? What a topic.
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RUSH: A question, ladies and gentlemen. If it were Bill Frist about whom kickbacks and shady land deals had been exposed, do you think there would be any interest in it in the Drive-By Media and do you think Democrats throughout the Senate would be demanding full disclosure and a full investigation? Yes. Do you hear any Republicans demanding anything against Dingy Harry? No. Do you hear of the Drive-By Media? You see stories out there. AP has a follow-up today, and I saw a little bit on MSNBC this morning, but it was almost like they did it in a perfunctory fashion. They couldn’t wait to get back to Foley, and they’re still talking about the Cory Lidle airplane accident and the ensuing investigation.
There are some media outlets out there touching on this. The Philadelphia Inquirer in an editorial today titled, “Practice What You Preach — That’s how this case looks, too. Unless Reid comes up with a better explanation for this lack of disclosure, Democrats should not keep him as their leader in the new Congress in 2007.†That’s the Philadelphia Inquirer. Here is the Washington Post. “for Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) is that he was sloppy about financial disclosure rules in accounting for a real estate deal on which he made a $700,000 profit.†That’s 175% more than ExxonMobil. “The more unattractive case is that the senator’s inaccurate description of the investment was an effort to disguise his partnership with a Las Vegas lawyer who’s never been charged with wrongdoing but whose name has surfaced in federal investigations involving organized crime, casinos and political bribery since the 1980s… It’s true — under the inadequate financial disclosure rules — that even if Mr. Reid had listed the newly formed corporation, Patrick Lane LLC, that wouldn’t have by itself demonstrated Mr. Brown’s involvement. Nonetheless, that Mr. Reid no longer owned the land, but instead had sold it for an interest in the Patrick Lane corporation, was not some mere ‘technical change,’ as the senator would like to brush it off. It’s an essential element of financial disclosure rules, the purpose of which is to know how and with whom public officials are financially entwined.â€
Hey, Post people? Fred Hyatt, editorial page. Go to Strata-Sphere.com, if you can bear to look at a conservative blog and just take a look at the 18 printed pages. When you look at it, there’s nothing in them that rings suspicious. It’s just public records of sales, loans, and so forth involving Dingy Harry and his wife, but for crying out loud, what does this guy make? You know, I look at everything from — and a lot of other people do, too, and it’s a mistake to do this — but I look at these guys, what does a senator make, $165,200 (leaders make $180,100). We know that the Democratic side of the Senate is populated with considerable wealth. More millionaires, multimillionaires on the Democrat side than on the Republican side and that’s always struck me odd when the Democrats say that they have an understanding with the common man. By the way, you common people know who you are, and the Democrats, they’re able to “relate†to you
They understand. I’m going to just tell all you common people out there, you couldn’t get close to accomplishing what Dingy Harry has accomplished, apparently over and over and over and over again. If the ethics committee really digs deep into this, this investigation is going to going on for a long, long time. Now, why do you suppose the Washington Post and the Philadelphia Inquirer and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution are editorializing on this and suggesting that Dingy Harry has a lot of explaining to do? I mean, why are they not ignoring it? Why are they not sweeping it under the rug? I don’t want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but not too many people read the editorials. They read op-eds, but there aren’t too many people that read the editorials in a newspaper.
They’re boring. They’re literally boring. They’re the worst written aspect of the newspaper. So it’s a way to get it in the paper without getting it in the paper. But when they do write these editorials they’re pretty cutting to Dingy Harry. And I think that there’s a bit of a concern on some of these papers’ parts, “This is just too close to the election for this to come out. If this guy is a problem, we’ve gotta do something about it, we’ve gotta make sure that we aren’t appearing to sweep it under the rug here at our paper,†and so forth and so on. I’m just hazarding a guess. What does the Journal-Constitution say? Well… “Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid would be well advised to stop thundering about corruption in the Republican ranks, or crying cover-up over the GOP’s failure to promptly and appropriately deal with Mark Foley.
“Reid faces too many questions about his own behavior to crusade about the misdeeds of others. Currently he’s trying to explain a land deal in Nevada on which he made a pile of money and which may not have been properly disclosed. When the property was sold in 2004, it belonged to a company formed with a long-time friend and included a parcel that once had belonged to Harry Reid. Despite having transferred his parcel to the company, for the same amount of loot that he bought it for, the Nevada Democrat continued to report in Senate Democrats he still owned it personally. That’s a breach of Senate disclosure rules, according to the AP, which first reported the transaction details.†Now, that is pretty stunning. We’ve covered this.
He continued to report in Senate documents he still owned it personally. He wants to say, “Well, it’s an oversight. I’ll go and pay a fine. I’ll fix it.†When you look at the number of land deals that Dingy Harry is involved in, you find out this is a full-time involvement in it he has. This is not something going on in the ten or 20% of his day that he doesn’t have to do Senate business or what have you, or party business. When you look at these documents — we’ll link to it at RushLimbaugh.com. We’ll put it up there so you can look at it yourself. This is an ongoing enterprise, and these kinds of things people do not do hands off with no attention being paid and just verbal agreements, “Oh, yeah, you go ahead and take this 400 grand. I’ll give it back to you. I’ll forget that I sold it to you. I’ll pretend I still own it, then you can pay me.†It’s hard to believe.
“Reid is now considering whether he should amend his disclosure statement. Two months ago the Los Angeles Times reported that Reid had smoothed the way for a campaign contributor and friend to develop a huge tract of land northeast of Las Vegas. Reid tried twice before he was successful to get a utility right-of-way moved from a proposed development site on to public land.†By the way, at RushLimbaugh.com there’s a LA Times story from the nineties that we dug up a long time ago that is amazingly detailed and illustrative of the workings of the Dingy Harry family in Las Vegas and how they’re all intertwined, and nobody cared about that when it came out, either, but we’ve got it permanently linked in our Essential Stack of Stuff. We’ve got it highlighted on the front page so that you can access it as well.
“The first effort of Harry Reid’s stall because of objections from the Bureau of Land Management and others that the developer wasn’t going to pay for anything for a deal that would greatly increase the value of his development site. Eventually, though, it was determined that the developer should pay the federal government more than $10 million. Then there are the free boxing tickets that Reid took from the Nevada Athletic Commission. The panel was hoping to block formation of a national boxing commission. Reid favored one. Only after the AP reported this summer that Reid got the expensive tickets did Reid decide he no longer accept such gifts. Unfortunately, Reid’s ethics meter only seems to work when it’s too late.†This was written by David McNaughton for the editorial board. They actually signed this editorial: David McNaughton for the Atlanta Journal and Constitution — and then Jed Babbin wants to know why is it that none of the major TV networks or newspapers have managed to pay attention to the biggest real scandal of this season, and that is Dingy Harry Reid. Be calm, ladies and gentlemen. Be cool. At some point they’ll not be able to avoid this.
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RUSH: Not to make a big deal out of this, ladies and gentlemen, but falsifying the report as Dingy Harry Greed apparently did is a federal crime, under Title 18, United States Code section 1001. It’s a false statement for which Reid could be sent to jail, according to the statute. Now, as Jed Babbin says, “If you’re looking for this on tonight’s network news or on the front page of tomorrow’s New York Times next to the latest Foley reveal, you won’t find it.†MSNBC, as I said, did a little blurb on this today, this morning in addition to the original AP story here, and let me just highlight some things that are relatively new.
“Other parts of the deal such as the informal handling of property taxes raise questions about possible gifts or income reportable to Congress and the IRS, ethics experts said. Reid and his wife Landra personally signed the deed, selling their full interest in the property to this Jay Brown’s company, Patrick Lane, LLC, for the same $400,000 they paid in 1998.†Now, you buy something for 400 grand in 1998, you sell it back four years later for the same amount of money? No inflation even factored in, much less interest? Come on! Who does this? (interruption) Real estate wasn’t booming? (laughing) Real estate wasn’t booming. What was this? This was at the height of the Clinton economic nineties, Mr. Snerdley! Don’t tell me real estate wasn’t booming.
Now, despite the sale, Dingy Harry “continued to report on his public ethics reports that he personally owned the land until it was sold again in 2004.†So it was six years. He claimed he owned it for six years when he didn’t. “His disclosure forms to Congress don’t mention an interest in Patrick Lane or the company’s role in the ‘04 sale. Reid isn’t listed anywhere on Patrick Lane’s corporate filings with Nevada even though the land he sold accounted for three-quarters of the company’s assets. Brown is listed as the company’s manager. Reid’s office said Nevada law didn’t require Dingy Harry to be mentioned in the filings.
“Ethics experts say such informality raises questions about whether any of Jay Brown’s tax payments amounted to a benefit for Reid. It might end up having been a gift. For years, Reid also had been encouraging the interior department to make land swaps on behalf of Del Webb, where one of his former aides worked.†We’ve been through all of this. Here’s the rezoning aspect. This is cool. “Clark County intended for the property that Reid owned to be used solely for new housing. Just days before the Harry Reid sold the parcels to Brown’s company, Brown sought permission in May of 2001 to rezone the property so a shopping center could be built. Career zoning officials objected saying the request was inconsistent with Clark County’s master development plan.
“The town board in Spring Valley where Reid’s property was located also voted 4-1 to reject the rezoning, but Jay Brown persisted. The Clark County zoning board followed by the Clark County commission voted to overrule the recommendation and approve commercial zoning so the shopping center could be built. Such votes were common at the time. Before the approval in September 2001, Brown’s consultant told commissioners that Reid was involved. Mr. Brown’s partners: ‘Harry Reid, I think we’ve people in this community you can trust to go forward put a quality project before you.’†Harry’s in on this; no need to sweat it! So now people are wondering whether Dingy Harry’s son Rory had anything to do with any of these votes. Andrew in Clifton, New Jersey, I’m glad you called. Welcome. You’re first on Open Line Friday, and welcome.
CALLER: What an honor to speak to you, Rush.
RUSH: Thank you, sir. You bet.
CALLER: I wanted to know why the Republican leaders haven’t asked for the resignation of Harry Reid? We’re six weeks out of an election. The Democrats are calling for Hastert’s resignation. They’re basically building up a lot of political clout against this man, and I want to know where the Republicans are on this.
RUSH: Well, I’ll answer this again. Number one: The Republicans don’t have to say anything because we’re doing their job for them here. Number two, it’s just not in them. They just don’t operate this way. You could ask this about virtually everything. When the whole Foley thing came, where were they there? They were running around like scared dogs with their tails between their legs or their other body orifices.
CALLER: Then they deserve to lose then if they’re not going to get up and —
RUSH: No, no, no! WE don’t deserve to lose. Screw these guys! WE don’t deserve to lose! WE don’t deserve to have Democrats running this country at this point in our nation’s history. That’s not what this is about. Let me tell you something. There’s a USA Today columnist, and I forget his name right now. There’s a columnist at USA Today who heard me say that everybody’s looking at this the wrong way. The media has got everybody focused on: “Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose the House? Will Republicans lose the Senate?†and I said in a brilliant monolog earlier this week, “What if the Democrats lose? If they can’t win in this kind of climate and environment, they don’t even deserve to be a political party.
And this guy picked up on it, thinks I have a point, starts examining whether or not the Democrats have even earned the right to govern. He’s a media guy. He begrudgingly acknowledges that I have a point. This whole thing needs to be turned around in terms of looking at the context. Why is it that the reporting day in and day out is always focused on Republicans lose, Republicans lose the House, Republicans lose the Senate. We really don’t hear a whole lot of focus on the Democrats doing this to win back the Senate, the Democrats doing this to win back the House. What we hear are never ending stories about how people hate Republicans, and we are never told that the people of this country have anything other than total adoration and love for Democrats.
If you’re to believe the mainstream press, there isn’t one Democrat who’s going to get one negative vote, who’s going to lose an election in this race. There isn’t one American who has any gripe with any Democrat. All the gripes are aimed at Republicans. Well, we know that’s BS. There are 20 million of us, and we have gripes with Democrats. We’re being totally ignored in this context. So, you know, when you say the Republicans deserve to lose, we don’t deserve to lose is the way to look at this. We certainly don’t deserve to have this nation governed by lightweights like Nancy Pelosi and dangerous people like Chuck Rangel who will raise anybody’s taxes faster than he can go to the bathroom after winning the race. These guys, they portend policies that will reverse very nice economic directions that the country is headed in. Anyway, why don’t the Republicans come up? Who knows? They don’t want to be attacked themselves. Maybe they’ve got things they’re hiding. Who the hell knows? All I know is, they don’t ever do it.
RUSH: Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, I asked, “Where is the Drive-By Media on the Harry Reid story?†I was pointed to a blog called the Strata-Sphere (it’s put together by a guy named A. J. Strata, hence the name Strata-Sphere) and I printed out 18 pages. These 18 pages are of Harry Reid land deals in Nevada and Arizona. I don’t know when the guy has had time to be a senator. This is… I’m holding them up here for those of you watching (glad you’re with us) on the Dittocam. This stuff, it goes on and on and on, these are official records, somebody just went to the website, looked the stuff up, sale prices, who owned what, who lent what, who borrowed what, and this is just the real estate deals. It’s inconceivable that this is it.
I wonder what else the guy is into. It’s mind-boggling here, and of course the lead item here at the Strata-Sphere blog is the Reid kickbacks. “Folks, head to the comments section where long time reader SBD is working his usual magic and posting multiple real estate transactions with one Harry Reid regarding properties in NV and buyers/sellers from all over (including my home town of McLean VA). I wonder how many of these reports made it accurately into the public record?†And then somebody, “hey nancy – start with your swamp before you think about draining ours.†This is — really, folks, it is very serious, and now people are beginning to look into whether — this came up on this program yesterday. We’re on the cutting edge, societal evolution.
People are beginning to wonder whether Reid’s son Rory was on the county commission when these zoning changes took place, and if he was on the commission, did he recuse himself. Some of the people on the commission are long-time Harry Reid flunkies anyway. We’ve learned that much. But some of these votes they’re wondering if Rory Reid, Harry Reid’s son, recused himself or just went ahead and voted. This isn’t known. But surely, ladies and gentlemen, the Drive-By Media will look into all of this, right? Surely they will. The Drive-By Media — in fact, let’s go to last night’s World News Tonight, and let’s see what our old buddy Brian Ross was busy investigating while the Dingy Harry scandal was unfolding.
ROSS: Twenty three-year-old Marine Sergeant Heather Cerveny was sent to Guantanamo Bay in late September as a legal aid to a Marine lawyer representing a detainee. In a sworn affidavit filed with the Pentagon inspector general, Cerveny says she met several Navy prison guards at an on-base club where, over drinks —
RUSH: Stop the tape. Has anybody heard the name Harry Reid here yet in Brian Ross’s report? What are we getting here? We’re getting another story about how unfortunate people are treated at Club Gitmo. I’ve been listening for Harry Reid. Here’s the rest of it.
ROSS: In detail, harsh physical abuse of the detainees.
RUSH: Yeah.
CERVENY: The one sailor specifically said, “I took the detainee by the head and smashed his head into the cell door.†Other ones specifically saying, “You know, today, that guy was annoying me, you know, I smacked him in the head.â€
ROSS: The new allegations come as the military and the White House have insisted any problems at Guantanamo in the treatment of detainees have long since been fixed.
RUSH: And there you have it, Brian Ross, our buddy from ABC, on the case, ladies and gentlemen, following up a story at Club Gitmo about which nobody’s heard anything. Breaking news, from the investigative unit of ABC on Club Gitmo! Meanwhile, Dingy Harry was out in Nevada yesterday, and he said this about collecting $1.1 million on a land deal. Remember this land deal, there’s something strange about this. He’s in league with a guy named Jay Brown who, according to all kinds of documentation, has been investigated by the feds for suspicious activity with organized crime and so forth. Dingy Harry buys a plot of land for $400,000 and sells it back for the identical figure without even any interest accrual or inflation accrual. Now, who does that? And then six years later, after selling it back for 400 grand, the property flips, Dingy Harry turns it into 175% profit that. That outdoes anything ExxonMobil has ever done: $1.1 million — and he was commenting on this yesterday. He’s off mike in this sound bite. Let’s listen to it, and if it’s hard to understand, I will translate, because I have the transcript.
REID: As we speak we’re checking it out, if there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.
RUSH: Okay. “As we speak, we’re checking it out,†Dingy Harry said. “If there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.†That’s what’s suspicious about this. Who sells something that has obviously escalated in value for the same price you bought it at without even inflating it for the inflation value of money, or the inflation rise in money or any kind of interest. Now, look how willing he is to pay a fine, ladies and gentlemen — and he’s still looking into it. “We’re checking it out.†Meanwhile, the calls for Denny Hastert and Republicans to resign over the Foley case get louder and louder and louder. Meanwhile, all the news about the Foley case keeps expanding and expanding and expanding. People are publishing private e-mails between Foley and Governor Jeb Bush that have nothing to do with anything, trying to keep that story alive.
Listen to this. This is so sweet! It is a Reuters story: “Media outlets are finding it harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover without losing scoops to blogs and other competitors, the editor of online magazine Slate said yesterday.†This is Jacob Weisberg at a Reuters Newsmaker event. He said, “I very much agree that we need to have standards but I think in practical terms we don’t control what people find out anymore.†(laughing) Oh, yes! That, ladies and gentlemen, is it in a nutshell, the end of the Drive-By Media, and they know it. “We don’t control what people find out anymore.†From that may we presume, assume, infer that at one time they know they “controlled what people found out,†meaning you. Now the lid’s blown, and they have lost control, and what a topic. Harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover. Well, now, what politician’s privacy do you want to protect? Dingy Harry’s, maybe? Democrat politicians? Is that who it is, the privacy you’re concerned about? And stars? Why, who would those stars be? What a topic.
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RUSH: A question, ladies and gentlemen. If it were Bill Frist about whom kickbacks and shady land deals had been exposed, do you think there would be any interest in it in the Drive-By Media and do you think Democrats throughout the Senate would be demanding full disclosure and a full investigation? Yes. Do you hear any Republicans demanding anything against Dingy Harry? No. Do you hear of the Drive-By Media? You see stories out there. AP has a follow-up today, and I saw a little bit on MSNBC this morning, but it was almost like they did it in a perfunctory fashion. They couldn’t wait to get back to Foley, and they’re still talking about the Cory Lidle airplane accident and the ensuing investigation.
There are some media outlets out there touching on this. The Philadelphia Inquirer in an editorial today titled, “Practice What You Preach — That’s how this case looks, too. Unless Reid comes up with a better explanation for this lack of disclosure, Democrats should not keep him as their leader in the new Congress in 2007.†That’s the Philadelphia Inquirer. Here is the Washington Post. “for Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) is that he was sloppy about financial disclosure rules in accounting for a real estate deal on which he made a $700,000 profit.†That’s 175% more than ExxonMobil. “The more unattractive case is that the senator’s inaccurate description of the investment was an effort to disguise his partnership with a Las Vegas lawyer who’s never been charged with wrongdoing but whose name has surfaced in federal investigations involving organized crime, casinos and political bribery since the 1980s… It’s true — under the inadequate financial disclosure rules — that even if Mr. Reid had listed the newly formed corporation, Patrick Lane LLC, that wouldn’t have by itself demonstrated Mr. Brown’s involvement. Nonetheless, that Mr. Reid no longer owned the land, but instead had sold it for an interest in the Patrick Lane corporation, was not some mere ‘technical change,’ as the senator would like to brush it off. It’s an essential element of financial disclosure rules, the purpose of which is to know how and with whom public officials are financially entwined.â€
Hey, Post people? Fred Hyatt, editorial page. Go to Strata-Sphere.com, if you can bear to look at a conservative blog and just take a look at the 18 printed pages. When you look at it, there’s nothing in them that rings suspicious. It’s just public records of sales, loans, and so forth involving Dingy Harry and his wife, but for crying out loud, what does this guy make? You know, I look at everything from — and a lot of other people do, too, and it’s a mistake to do this — but I look at these guys, what does a senator make, $165,200 (leaders make $180,100). We know that the Democratic side of the Senate is populated with considerable wealth. More millionaires, multimillionaires on the Democrat side than on the Republican side and that’s always struck me odd when the Democrats say that they have an understanding with the common man. By the way, you common people know who you are, and the Democrats, they’re able to “relate†to you
They understand. I’m going to just tell all you common people out there, you couldn’t get close to accomplishing what Dingy Harry has accomplished, apparently over and over and over and over again. If the ethics committee really digs deep into this, this investigation is going to going on for a long, long time. Now, why do you suppose the Washington Post and the Philadelphia Inquirer and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution are editorializing on this and suggesting that Dingy Harry has a lot of explaining to do? I mean, why are they not ignoring it? Why are they not sweeping it under the rug? I don’t want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but not too many people read the editorials. They read op-eds, but there aren’t too many people that read the editorials in a newspaper.
They’re boring. They’re literally boring. They’re the worst written aspect of the newspaper. So it’s a way to get it in the paper without getting it in the paper. But when they do write these editorials they’re pretty cutting to Dingy Harry. And I think that there’s a bit of a concern on some of these papers’ parts, “This is just too close to the election for this to come out. If this guy is a problem, we’ve gotta do something about it, we’ve gotta make sure that we aren’t appearing to sweep it under the rug here at our paper,†and so forth and so on. I’m just hazarding a guess. What does the Journal-Constitution say? Well… “Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid would be well advised to stop thundering about corruption in the Republican ranks, or crying cover-up over the GOP’s failure to promptly and appropriately deal with Mark Foley.
“Reid faces too many questions about his own behavior to crusade about the misdeeds of others. Currently he’s trying to explain a land deal in Nevada on which he made a pile of money and which may not have been properly disclosed. When the property was sold in 2004, it belonged to a company formed with a long-time friend and included a parcel that once had belonged to Harry Reid. Despite having transferred his parcel to the company, for the same amount of loot that he bought it for, the Nevada Democrat continued to report in Senate Democrats he still owned it personally. That’s a breach of Senate disclosure rules, according to the AP, which first reported the transaction details.†Now, that is pretty stunning. We’ve covered this.
He continued to report in Senate documents he still owned it personally. He wants to say, “Well, it’s an oversight. I’ll go and pay a fine. I’ll fix it.†When you look at the number of land deals that Dingy Harry is involved in, you find out this is a full-time involvement in it he has. This is not something going on in the ten or 20% of his day that he doesn’t have to do Senate business or what have you, or party business. When you look at these documents — we’ll link to it at RushLimbaugh.com. We’ll put it up there so you can look at it yourself. This is an ongoing enterprise, and these kinds of things people do not do hands off with no attention being paid and just verbal agreements, “Oh, yeah, you go ahead and take this 400 grand. I’ll give it back to you. I’ll forget that I sold it to you. I’ll pretend I still own it, then you can pay me.†It’s hard to believe.
“Reid is now considering whether he should amend his disclosure statement. Two months ago the Los Angeles Times reported that Reid had smoothed the way for a campaign contributor and friend to develop a huge tract of land northeast of Las Vegas. Reid tried twice before he was successful to get a utility right-of-way moved from a proposed development site on to public land.†By the way, at RushLimbaugh.com there’s a LA Times story from the nineties that we dug up a long time ago that is amazingly detailed and illustrative of the workings of the Dingy Harry family in Las Vegas and how they’re all intertwined, and nobody cared about that when it came out, either, but we’ve got it permanently linked in our Essential Stack of Stuff. We’ve got it highlighted on the front page so that you can access it as well.
“The first effort of Harry Reid’s stall because of objections from the Bureau of Land Management and others that the developer wasn’t going to pay for anything for a deal that would greatly increase the value of his development site. Eventually, though, it was determined that the developer should pay the federal government more than $10 million. Then there are the free boxing tickets that Reid took from the Nevada Athletic Commission. The panel was hoping to block formation of a national boxing commission. Reid favored one. Only after the AP reported this summer that Reid got the expensive tickets did Reid decide he no longer accept such gifts. Unfortunately, Reid’s ethics meter only seems to work when it’s too late.†This was written by David McNaughton for the editorial board. They actually signed this editorial: David McNaughton for the Atlanta Journal and Constitution — and then Jed Babbin wants to know why is it that none of the major TV networks or newspapers have managed to pay attention to the biggest real scandal of this season, and that is Dingy Harry Reid. Be calm, ladies and gentlemen. Be cool. At some point they’ll not be able to avoid this.
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RUSH: Not to make a big deal out of this, ladies and gentlemen, but falsifying the report as Dingy Harry Greed apparently did is a federal crime, under Title 18, United States Code section 1001. It’s a false statement for which Reid could be sent to jail, according to the statute. Now, as Jed Babbin says, “If you’re looking for this on tonight’s network news or on the front page of tomorrow’s New York Times next to the latest Foley reveal, you won’t find it.†MSNBC, as I said, did a little blurb on this today, this morning in addition to the original AP story here, and let me just highlight some things that are relatively new.
“Other parts of the deal such as the informal handling of property taxes raise questions about possible gifts or income reportable to Congress and the IRS, ethics experts said. Reid and his wife Landra personally signed the deed, selling their full interest in the property to this Jay Brown’s company, Patrick Lane, LLC, for the same $400,000 they paid in 1998.†Now, you buy something for 400 grand in 1998, you sell it back four years later for the same amount of money? No inflation even factored in, much less interest? Come on! Who does this? (interruption) Real estate wasn’t booming? (laughing) Real estate wasn’t booming. What was this? This was at the height of the Clinton economic nineties, Mr. Snerdley! Don’t tell me real estate wasn’t booming.
Now, despite the sale, Dingy Harry “continued to report on his public ethics reports that he personally owned the land until it was sold again in 2004.†So it was six years. He claimed he owned it for six years when he didn’t. “His disclosure forms to Congress don’t mention an interest in Patrick Lane or the company’s role in the ‘04 sale. Reid isn’t listed anywhere on Patrick Lane’s corporate filings with Nevada even though the land he sold accounted for three-quarters of the company’s assets. Brown is listed as the company’s manager. Reid’s office said Nevada law didn’t require Dingy Harry to be mentioned in the filings.
“Ethics experts say such informality raises questions about whether any of Jay Brown’s tax payments amounted to a benefit for Reid. It might end up having been a gift. For years, Reid also had been encouraging the interior department to make land swaps on behalf of Del Webb, where one of his former aides worked.†We’ve been through all of this. Here’s the rezoning aspect. This is cool. “Clark County intended for the property that Reid owned to be used solely for new housing. Just days before the Harry Reid sold the parcels to Brown’s company, Brown sought permission in May of 2001 to rezone the property so a shopping center could be built. Career zoning officials objected saying the request was inconsistent with Clark County’s master development plan.
“The town board in Spring Valley where Reid’s property was located also voted 4-1 to reject the rezoning, but Jay Brown persisted. The Clark County zoning board followed by the Clark County commission voted to overrule the recommendation and approve commercial zoning so the shopping center could be built. Such votes were common at the time. Before the approval in September 2001, Brown’s consultant told commissioners that Reid was involved. Mr. Brown’s partners: ‘Harry Reid, I think we’ve people in this community you can trust to go forward put a quality project before you.’†Harry’s in on this; no need to sweat it! So now people are wondering whether Dingy Harry’s son Rory had anything to do with any of these votes. Andrew in Clifton, New Jersey, I’m glad you called. Welcome. You’re first on Open Line Friday, and welcome.
CALLER: What an honor to speak to you, Rush.
RUSH: Thank you, sir. You bet.
CALLER: I wanted to know why the Republican leaders haven’t asked for the resignation of Harry Reid? We’re six weeks out of an election. The Democrats are calling for Hastert’s resignation. They’re basically building up a lot of political clout against this man, and I want to know where the Republicans are on this.
RUSH: Well, I’ll answer this again. Number one: The Republicans don’t have to say anything because we’re doing their job for them here. Number two, it’s just not in them. They just don’t operate this way. You could ask this about virtually everything. When the whole Foley thing came, where were they there? They were running around like scared dogs with their tails between their legs or their other body orifices.
CALLER: Then they deserve to lose then if they’re not going to get up and —
RUSH: No, no, no! WE don’t deserve to lose. Screw these guys! WE don’t deserve to lose! WE don’t deserve to have Democrats running this country at this point in our nation’s history. That’s not what this is about. Let me tell you something. There’s a USA Today columnist, and I forget his name right now. There’s a columnist at USA Today who heard me say that everybody’s looking at this the wrong way. The media has got everybody focused on: “Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose the House? Will Republicans lose the Senate?†and I said in a brilliant monolog earlier this week, “What if the Democrats lose? If they can’t win in this kind of climate and environment, they don’t even deserve to be a political party.
And this guy picked up on it, thinks I have a point, starts examining whether or not the Democrats have even earned the right to govern. He’s a media guy. He begrudgingly acknowledges that I have a point. This whole thing needs to be turned around in terms of looking at the context. Why is it that the reporting day in and day out is always focused on Republicans lose, Republicans lose the House, Republicans lose the Senate. We really don’t hear a whole lot of focus on the Democrats doing this to win back the Senate, the Democrats doing this to win back the House. What we hear are never ending stories about how people hate Republicans, and we are never told that the people of this country have anything other than total adoration and love for Democrats.
If you’re to believe the mainstream press, there isn’t one Democrat who’s going to get one negative vote, who’s going to lose an election in this race. There isn’t one American who has any gripe with any Democrat. All the gripes are aimed at Republicans. Well, we know that’s BS. There are 20 million of us, and we have gripes with Democrats. We’re being totally ignored in this context. So, you know, when you say the Republicans deserve to lose, we don’t deserve to lose is the way to look at this. We certainly don’t deserve to have this nation governed by lightweights like Nancy Pelosi and dangerous people like Chuck Rangel who will raise anybody’s taxes faster than he can go to the bathroom after winning the race. These guys, they portend policies that will reverse very nice economic directions that the country is headed in. Anyway, why don’t the Republicans come up? Who knows? They don’t want to be attackeRUSH: Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, I asked, “Where is the Drive-By Media on the Harry Reid story?†I was pointed to a blog called the Strata-Sphere (it’s put together by a guy named A. J. Strata, hence the name Strata-Sphere) and I printed out 18 pages. These 18 pages are of Harry Reid land deals in Nevada and Arizona. I don’t know when the guy has had time to be a senator. This is… I’m holding them up here for those of you watching (glad you’re with us) on the Dittocam. This stuff, it goes on and on and on, these are official records, somebody just went to the website, looked the stuff up, sale prices, who owned what, who lent what, who borrowed what, and this is just the real estate deals. It’s inconceivable that this is it.
I wonder what else the guy is into. It’s mind-boggling here, and of course the lead item here at the Strata-Sphere blog is the Reid kickbacks. “Folks, head to the comments section where long time reader SBD is working his usual magic and posting multiple real estate transactions with one Harry Reid regarding properties in NV and buyers/sellers from all over (including my home town of McLean VA). I wonder how many of these reports made it accurately into the public record?†And then somebody, “hey nancy – start with your swamp before you think about draining ours.†This is — really, folks, it is very serious, and now people are beginning to look into whether — this came up on this program yesterday. We’re on the cutting edge, societal evolution.
People are beginning to wonder whether Reid’s son Rory was on the county commission when these zoning changes took place, and if he was on the commission, did he recuse himself. Some of the people on the commission are long-time Harry Reid flunkies anyway. We’ve learned that much. But some of these votes they’re wondering if Rory Reid, Harry Reid’s son, recused himself or just went ahead and voted. This isn’t known. But surely, ladies and gentlemen, the Drive-By Media will look into all of this, right? Surely they will. The Drive-By Media — in fact, let’s go to last night’s World News Tonight, and let’s see what our old buddy Brian Ross was busy investigating while the Dingy Harry scandal was unfolding.
ROSS: Twenty three-year-old Marine Sergeant Heather Cerveny was sent to Guantanamo Bay in late September as a legal aid to a Marine lawyer representing a detainee. In a sworn affidavit filed with the Pentagon inspector general, Cerveny says she met several Navy prison guards at an on-base club where, over drinks —
RUSH: Stop the tape. Has anybody heard the name Harry Reid here yet in Brian Ross’s report? What are we getting here? We’re getting another story about how unfortunate people are treated at Club Gitmo. I’ve been listening for Harry Reid. Here’s the rest of it.
ROSS: In detail, harsh physical abuse of the detainees.
RUSH: Yeah.
CERVENY: The one sailor specifically said, “I took the detainee by the head and smashed his head into the cell door.†Other ones specifically saying, “You know, today, that guy was annoying me, you know, I smacked him in the head.â€
ROSS: The new allegations come as the military and the White House have insisted any problems at Guantanamo in the treatment of detainees have long since been fixed.
RUSH: And there you have it, Brian Ross, our buddy from ABC, on the case, ladies and gentlemen, following up a story at Club Gitmo about which nobody’s heard anything. Breaking news, from the investigative unit of ABC on Club Gitmo! Meanwhile, Dingy Harry was out in Nevada yesterday, and he said this about collecting $1.1 million on a land deal. Remember this land deal, there’s something strange about this. He’s in league with a guy named Jay Brown who, according to all kinds of documentation, has been investigated by the feds for suspicious activity with organized crime and so forth. Dingy Harry buys a plot of land for $400,000 and sells it back for the identical figure without even any interest accrual or inflation accrual. Now, who does that? And then six years later, after selling it back for 400 grand, the property flips, Dingy Harry turns it into 175% profit that. That outdoes anything ExxonMobil has ever done: $1.1 million — and he was commenting on this yesterday. He’s off mike in this sound bite. Let’s listen to it, and if it’s hard to understand, I will translate, because I have the transcript.
REID: As we speak we’re checking it out, if there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.
RUSH: Okay. “As we speak, we’re checking it out,†Dingy Harry said. “If there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.†That’s what’s suspicious about this. Who sells something that has obviously escalated in value for the same price you bought it at without even inflating it for the inflation value of money, or the inflation rise in money or any kind of interest. Now, look how willing he is to pay a fine, ladies and gentlemen — and he’s still looking into it. “We’re checking it out.†Meanwhile, the calls for Denny Hastert and Republicans to resign over the Foley case get louder and louder and louder. Meanwhile, all the news about the Foley case keeps expanding and expanding and expanding. People are publishing private e-mails between Foley and Governor Jeb Bush that have nothing to do with anything, trying to keep that story alive.
Listen to this. This is so sweet! It is a Reuters story: “Media outlets are finding it harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover without losing scoops to blogs and other competitors, the editor of online magazine Slate said yesterday.†This is Jacob Weisberg at a Reuters Newsmaker event. He said, “I very much agree that we need to have standards but I think in practical terms we don’t control what people find out anymore.†(laughing) Oh, yes! That, ladies and gentlemen, is it in a nutshell, the end of the Drive-By Media, and they know it. “We don’t control what people find out anymore.†From that may we presume, assume, infer that at one time they know they “controlled what people found out,†meaning you. Now the lid’s blown, and they have lost control, and what a topic. Harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover. Well, now, what politician’s privacy do you want to protect? Dingy Harry’s, maybe? Democrat politicians? Is that who it is, the privacy you’re concerned about? And stars? Why, who would those stars be? What a topic.
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RUSH: A question, ladies and gentlemen. If it were Bill Frist about whom kickbacks and shady land deals had been exposed, do you think there would be any interest in it in the Drive-By Media and do you think Democrats throughout the Senate would be demanding full disclosure and a full investigation? Yes. Do you hear any Republicans demanding anything against Dingy Harry? No. Do you hear of the Drive-By Media? You see stories out there. AP has a follow-up today, and I saw a little bit on MSNBC this morning, but it was almost like they did it in a perfunctory fashion. They couldn’t wait to get back to Foley, and they’re still talking about the Cory Lidle airplane accident and the ensuing investigation.
There are some media outlets out there touching on this. The Philadelphia Inquirer in an editorial today titled, “Practice What You Preach — That’s how this case looks, too. Unless Reid comes up with a better explanation for this lack of disclosure, Democrats should not keep him as their leader in the new Congress in 2007.†That’s the Philadelphia Inquirer. Here is the Washington Post. “for Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) is that he was sloppy about financial disclosure rules in accounting for a real estate deal on which he made a $700,000 profit.†That’s 175% more than ExxonMobil. “The more unattractive case is that the senator’s inaccurate description of the investment was an effort to disguise his partnership with a Las Vegas lawyer who’s never been charged with wrongdoing but whose name has surfaced in federal investigations involving organized crime, casinos and political bribery since the 1980s… It’s true — under the inadequate financial disclosure rules — that even if Mr. Reid had listed the newly formed corporation, Patrick Lane LLC, that wouldn’t have by itself demonstrated Mr. Brown’s involvement. Nonetheless, that Mr. Reid no longer owned the land, but instead had sold it for an interest in the Patrick Lane corporation, was not some mere ‘technical change,’ as the senator would like to brush it off. It’s an essential element of financial disclosure rules, the purpose of which is to know how and with whom public officials are financially entwined.â€
Hey, Post people? Fred Hyatt, editorial page. Go to Strata-Sphere.com, if you can bear to look at a conservative blog and just take a look at the 18 printed pages. When you look at it, there’s nothing in them that rings suspicious. It’s just public records of sales, loans, and so forth involving Dingy Harry and his wife, but for crying out loud, what does this guy make? You know, I look at everything from — and a lot of other people do, too, and it’s a mistake to do this — but I look at these guys, what does a senator make, $165,200 (leaders make $180,100). We know that the Democratic side of the Senate is populated with considerable wealth. More millionaires, multimillionaires on the Democrat side than on the Republican side and that’s always struck me odd when the Democrats say that they have an understanding with the common man. By the way, you common people know who you are, and the Democrats, they’re able to “relate†to you
They understand. I’m going to just tell all you common people out there, you couldn’t get close to accomplishing what Dingy Harry has accomplished, apparently over and over and over and over again. If the ethics committee really digs deep into this, this investigation is going to going on for a long, long time. Now, why do you suppose the Washington Post and the Philadelphia Inquirer and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution are editorializing on this and suggesting that Dingy Harry has a lot of explaining to do? I mean, why are they not ignoring it? Why are they not sweeping it under the rug? I don’t want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but not too many people read the editorials. They read op-eds, but there aren’t too many people that read the editorials in a newspaper.
They’re boring. They’re literally boring. They’re the worst written aspect of the newspaper. So it’s a way to get it in the paper without getting it in the paper. But when they do write these editorials they’re pretty cutting to Dingy Harry. And I think that there’s a bit of a concern on some of these papers’ parts, “This is just too close to the election for this to come out. If this guy is a problem, we’ve gotta do something about it, we’ve gotta make sure that we aren’t appearing to sweep it under the rug here at our paper,†and so forth and so on. I’m just hazarding a guess. What does the Journal-Constitution say? Well… “Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid would be well advised to stop thundering about corruption in the Republican ranks, or crying cover-up over the GOP’s failure to promptly and appropriately deal with Mark Foley.
“Reid faces too many questions about his own behavior to crusade about the misdeeds of others. Currently he’s trying to explain a land deal in Nevada on which he made a pile of money and which may not have been properly disclosed. When the property was sold in 2004, it belonged to a company formed with a long-time friend and included a parcel that once had belonged to Harry Reid. Despite having transferred his parcel to the company, for the same amount of loot that he bought it for, the Nevada Democrat continued to report in Senate Democrats he still owned it personally. That’s a breach of Senate disclosure rules, according to the AP, which first reported the transaction details.†Now, that is pretty stunning. We’ve covered this.
He continued to report in Senate documents he still owned it personally. He wants to say, “Well, it’s an oversight. I’ll go and pay a fine. I’ll fix it.†When you look at the number of land deals that Dingy Harry is involved in, you find out this is a full-time involvement in it he has. This is not something going on in the ten or 20% of his day that he doesn’t have to do Senate business or what have you, or party business. When you look at these documents — we’ll link to it at RushLimbaugh.com. We’ll put it up there so you can look at it yourself. This is an ongoing enterprise, and these kinds of things people do not do hands off with no attention being paid and just verbal agreements, “Oh, yeah, you go ahead and take this 400 grand. I’ll give it back to you. I’ll forget that I sold it to you. I’ll pretend I still own it, then you can pay me.†It’s hard to believe.
“Reid is now considering whether he should amend his disclosure statement. Two months ago the Los Angeles Times reported that Reid had smoothed the way for a campaign contributor and friend to develop a huge tract of land northeast of Las Vegas. Reid tried twice before he was successful to get a utility right-of-way moved from a proposed development site on to public land.†By the way, at RushLimbaugh.com there’s a LA Times story from the nineties that we dug up a long time ago that is amazingly detailed and illustrative of the workings of the Dingy Harry family in Las Vegas and how they’re all intertwined, and nobody cared about that when it came out, either, but we’ve got it permanently linked in our Essential Stack of Stuff. We’ve got it highlighted on the front page so that you can access it as well.
“The first effort of Harry Reid’s stall because of objections from the Bureau of Land Management and others that the developer wasn’t going to pay for anything for a deal that would greatly increase the value of his development site. Eventually, though, it was determined that the developer should pay the federal government more than $10 million. Then there are the free boxing tickets that Reid took from the Nevada Athletic Commission. The panel was hoping to block formation of a national boxing commission. Reid favored one. Only after the AP reported this summer that Reid got the expensive tickets did Reid decide he no longer accept such gifts. Unfortunately, Reid’s ethics meter only seems to work when it’s too late.†This was written by David McNaughton for the editorial board. They actually signed this editorial: David McNaughton for the Atlanta Journal and Constitution — and then Jed Babbin wants to know why is it that none of the major TV networks or newspapers have managed to pay attention to the biggest real scandal of this season, and that is Dingy Harry Reid. Be calm, ladies and gentlemen. Be cool. At some point they’ll not be able to avoid this.
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RUSH: Not to make a big deal out of this, ladies and gentlemen, but falsifying the report as Dingy Harry Greed apparently did is a federal crime, under Title 18, United States Code section 1001. It’s a false statement for which Reid could be sent to jail, according to the statute. Now, as Jed Babbin says, “If you’re looking for this on tonight’s network news or on the front page of tomorrow’s New York Times next to the latest Foley reveal, you won’t find it.†MSNBC, as I said, did a little blurb on this today, this morning in addition to the original AP story here, and let me just highlight some things that are relatively new.
“Other parts of the deal such as the informal handling of property taxes raise questions about possible gifts or income reportable to Congress and the IRS, ethics experts said. Reid and his wife Landra personally signed the deed, selling their full interest in the property to this Jay Brown’s company, Patrick Lane, LLC, for the same $400,000 they paid in 1998.†Now, you buy something for 400 grand in 1998, you sell it back four years later for the same amount of money? No inflation even factored in, much less interest? Come on! Who does this? (interruption) Real estate wasn’t booming? (laughing) Real estate wasn’t booming. What was this? This was at the height of the Clinton economic nineties, Mr. Snerdley! Don’t tell me real estate wasn’t booming.
Now, despite the sale, Dingy Harry “continued to report on his public ethics reports that he personally owned the land until it was sold again in 2004.†So it was six years. He claimed he owned it for six years when he didn’t. “His disclosure forms to Congress don’t mention an interest in Patrick Lane or the company’s role in the ‘04 sale. Reid isn’t listed anywhere on Patrick Lane’s corporate filings with Nevada even though the land he sold accounted for three-quarters of the company’s assets. Brown is listed as the company’s manager. Reid’s office said Nevada law didn’t require Dingy Harry to be mentioned in the filings.
“Ethics experts say such informality raises questions about whether any of Jay Brown’s tax payments amounted to a benefit for Reid. It might end up having been a gift. For years, Reid also had been encouraging the interior department to make land swaps on behalf of Del Webb, where one of his former aides worked.†We’ve been through all of this. Here’s the rezoning aspect. This is cool. “Clark County intended for the property that Reid owned to be used solely for new housing. Just days before the Harry Reid sold the parcels to Brown’s company, Brown sought permission in May of 2001 to rezone the property so a shopping center could be built. Career zoning officials objected saying the request was inconsistent with Clark County’s master development plan.
“The town board in Spring Valley where Reid’s property was located also voted 4-1 to reject the rezoning, but Jay Brown persisted. The Clark County zoning board followed by the Clark County commission voted to overrule the recommendation and approve commercial zoning so the shopping center could be built. Such votes were common at the time. Before the approval in September 2001, Brown’s consultant told commissioners that Reid was involved. Mr. Brown’s partners: ‘Harry Reid, I think we’ve people in this community you can trust to go forward put a quality project before you.’†Harry’s in on this; no need to sweat it! So now people are wondering whether Dingy Harry’s son Rory had anything to do with any of these votes. Andrew in Clifton, New Jersey, I’m glad you called. Welcome. You’re first on Open Line Friday, and welcome.
CALLER: What an honor to speak to you, Rush.
RUSH: Thank you, sir. You bet.
CALLER: I wanted to know why the Republican leaders haven’t asked for the resignation of Harry Reid? We’re six weeks out of an election. The Democrats are calling for Hastert’s resignation. They’re basically building up a lot of political clout against this man, and I want to know where the Republicans are on this.
RUSH: Well, I’ll answer this again. Number one: The Republicans don’t have to say anything because we’re doing their job for them here. Number two, it’s just not in them. They just don’t operate this way. You could ask this about virtually everything. When the whole Foley thing came, where were they there? They were running around like scared dogs with their tails between their legs or their other body orifices.
CALLER: Then they deserve to lose then if
October 14th, 2006 at 12:27 amBones, you really are delusional, aren’t you? Poor little girl is going to be so irrelevant this November. I am so sorry!!
October 14th, 2006 at 12:27 amJPark! Don’t be mean to little girls!
October 14th, 2006 at 12:32 amWOW,,,,WHAT A TOTAL F!!UCKING A$$HOLE BONES TWO IS, NICE POST…NOW I THINK “SLOGGING”, THAT IS “DRINKING AND BLOGGING” IS NOT FOR YOU. WHY DON’T YOU GO EMAIL YOURSELF YOUR BACKED-UP RUSH LIMPBALLS SHOWS. RETARD…
October 14th, 2006 at 12:33 am#75 Sorry Zooey. :( I know it is unfair.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:37 amBones-stew must get paid by the word. Does he have copyright permission for such long cut-and-pastes? If he’s infringing on copyrights, that’s a violation of Federal Law!!! Heaven forbid a supporter of the Reich should violate a Federal Law!!!
Somebody here ought to refer Bones-Two to the Copyright Police. I think after 500 words it becomes a felony. That’s 6 months for every 100 words past 500 in Federal Prison, plus fines.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:37 am#78 Somehow I think Rush is not going to sue him. Actually, I am pretty sure Bones is his source.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:43 am#78 Well there is the caveat of, Section 2 Item 214b, “If one provides documemetation of the provided clause of reference then probability of thus mentioned documentation is valid for mere purposes of referencing of public sourced media in aims to refresh others that the Individual is so F!!!cking drunk that they cannot help themselves and thus should be commenced to being kicked in the balls repeatedly”.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:44 amBriseadh na Faire, ren & JPark,
Too frickin’ funny…
October 14th, 2006 at 12:48 amThat’s one heck of a caveat…..OUCH….lol
October 14th, 2006 at 12:50 amHey is it messed up to put my post on another blog, the one that numbnuts did the same beyond long Limpball post, I think in this case it was extreme but had to be done…
October 14th, 2006 at 12:55 am79 – Copyright violation is a Federal Crime. Civil litigation is not necessary to press charges. Permission given after the fact does not mitigate the crime, which is complete upon the occurance. Plus, with the inter-agency links created by the Patriot Act, posts such as what bones-two will most certainly get flagged through the NSA data mining covert operation and forwarded to the Copyright Police. Granted the software was primarily developed for detection of mp-3 files, but it works equally well on non-encrypted word files such as are employed by TP.
I am certain bones-two’s ISP address is going to be closely monitored by the Copyright Police from now on out.
Ren – the consumption of alcohol would not mitigate this offense, as mens rea is not required. Copyright violation is a strict liability offense. Once you cut and paste over the statutory minimum amount of data bytes without including the copyright permission notice, you have completed the crime. Neither alcohol, nor ignornace of the law, will get you any sympathy from the Copyright Courts.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:58 amI hate to be catty — well, not really — but it looks like Condi had a tragic encounter with a Botox needle.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:00 amCopyright Courts….
*snort*
October 14th, 2006 at 1:02 am#85 I am not sure it is Botox. I think that is Republican woman face. If you notice they all look like they suck lemons.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:05 amOk, I began to read Bones two post 4 hours ago. Now, I can have a truthful response to him. Others in this blog that havent read the long post should not give an opinion yet.
Ok, I was kidding. What a moron that bones2 is.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:07 am#88 LOL, if you had read the whole Limbaugh propoganda I would salute you…and then I think maybe I would call the men in the white coats.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:09 amHey, Zoo. Couldnt tell you last night about me laughing really hard at the picture of Yeti crapping on a snowbank! ha ha ha!
October 14th, 2006 at 1:09 amBy the way, TP. HABEAS CORPUS IS STILL DEAD.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:13 am#85 #87 Its not botox, it’s known as “Dolphinitus” or in other rare cases “Porpoiseitus”….
October 14th, 2006 at 1:14 amIf you notice they all look like they suck lemons.
Comment by JPark
It’s the only permissible thing to suck…
October 14th, 2006 at 1:15 am91 – I wouldn’t do the post-mortum just yet. The Supremes have yet to chime in on the Act.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:16 amJust read the past thread. I was laughing so hard with ARA and everybody jumping on him. :}
October 14th, 2006 at 1:16 amCouldnt tell you last night about me laughing really hard at the picture of Yeti crapping on a snowbank! ha ha ha!
Comment by Juan+C
You’re always so good to me, Juan — laughing at my disgusting humor. :)
October 14th, 2006 at 1:16 amWow, some folks need to paraphrase.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:18 amOh, Zoo…you would have loved the anal sex trend in the past thread.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:18 amI remember the movie alien…..Condi’s head looks like it’s going to split open any moment and a f!!!ucking alien is going to come out…
October 14th, 2006 at 1:19 amJuan — laughing at my disgusting humor. :)
Comment by Zooey
You rule, baby. :)
October 14th, 2006 at 1:21 amSpeaking of the snowbank crapper, Yeti_Steve has arrived….
October 14th, 2006 at 1:21 amOh, Zoo…you would have loved the anal sex trend in the past thread.
Comment by Juan+C
I think it would have been funnier if that idiot hadn’t thrown his alleged wife under the KY truck. I’m sure she’d be soooo flattered — if she exists.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:23 amOr even the movie, “Scanners” where the guys head explodes…
October 14th, 2006 at 1:23 amShe just looks like her emotional center of mass is right in the middle of her head or right between the eyes and the stress is so great there. Go online and look up Condi Pictures close up’s and see what I’m……Oh, Nooooooooooooooo, don’t do it, don’t do it…..
ren,
Sometimes she crinkles up her forehead, and she looks like a Klingon.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:27 amSpeaking of the snowbank crapper, Yeti_Steve has arrived….
Comment by Zooey
Hey now. Where’s Franny anyway?
October 14th, 2006 at 1:28 amif she exists.
Comment by Zooey
Exactly. He wasnt older than 20.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:30 am#104 ya know, I knew it was out there and I just couldn’t place it…
October 14th, 2006 at 1:30 amHey now. Where’s Franny anyway?
October 14th, 2006 at 1:32 amComment by Yeti_Steve — October 14, 2006 @ 1:28 am
Ok, I’ll bite,,,,,,,(rolling eyes)Who’s Franny?
Where’s Franny anyway?
Comment by Yeti_Steve
Don’t you need to find a snowbank? :)
October 14th, 2006 at 1:32 amI guess BallsBlue oh, BonesTwo, Passed out….niceness!
October 14th, 2006 at 1:35 amDon’t you need to find a snowbank? :)
Comment by Zooey
That would severely damage my cover.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:36 amDon’t you need to find a snowbank? :)
Comment by Zooey
Well, we all know. Yeti things.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:37 amChris Wallace is a paid-off Bush Regime stooge, so he will never ask any tough questions of Condi Rice > PERIOD. Waste of time to bother Wallace about anything > he is just another stupid son of a famous father!
October 14th, 2006 at 1:38 amAwfully small writing used on this thread > TP would be wise to go back to the other format > hard to read!
October 14th, 2006 at 1:39 amWell, we all know. Yeti things.
Comment by Juan+C
hey, you just try eating a whole team of Sherpas sometime. And why is the font so freakin’ small?
October 14th, 2006 at 1:41 amHey Jay, I brought up the small font on another post and it went over like tumbleweeds and crickets… assholes
October 14th, 2006 at 1:42 amren,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frannie_and_Zooey
My name is actually a shortened version of my former name “Zookeeper.”
October 14th, 2006 at 1:43 amThat would severely damage my cover.
Comment by Yeti_Steve
Ah, my bad.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:44 amhey, you just try eating a whole team of Sherpas sometime. And why is the font so freakin’ small?
October 14th, 2006 at 1:44 amComment by Yeti_Steve
He. :)
My name is actually a shortened version of my former name “Zookeeper.â€
Comment by Zooey
A great read, really.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:45 amhey, you just try eating a whole team of Sherpas sometime.
Comment by Yeti_Steve
I heard they taste like chicken.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:46 amren I just sent an email to TP about it, asking if it’s a glitch or new format? If TP keeps it, then the site will most likely die off from posters > small type hurts my eyes to read it!
October 14th, 2006 at 1:48 amI heard they taste like chicken.
Comment by Zooey
Blech. I swear, they sweat out Murray’s hair cream. Now that’s greezy.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:48 amHave you read this little diddy…Charlotte Perkins Gilman’s “The Yellow Wallpaperâ€?
October 14th, 2006 at 1:51 am#122 Jay, why do you think i’ve been posting in bold and all caps…..We’ll ok it’s just an excuse..
October 14th, 2006 at 1:53 amHave you read this little diddy…Charlotte Perkins Gilman’s “The Yellow Wallpaper�
Comment by ren
Yeah, that’s a messed up story.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:54 am#126 no sh!t.. ask Zooey if she read it, the only reason I ask is it seems similar to the ones she linked me to on Wiki….
October 14th, 2006 at 1:56 amsmall type hurts my eyes to read it!
Comment by Jay Randal
Gentlemen, give in to the miracle of progressive bifocals. You’ll be glad you did! I’m blind as a bat, but I can read the font just fine. Come over to the “old” side, the view is great…
October 14th, 2006 at 1:58 amren,
Ask me yourself! No, I don’t read messed stories. I only read erotica.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:59 am#122 half of the reason I post here is because of the text options and the layout…Daily Kos is ok and America blog is pointless… all in all, why in the hell would they change the damn font size with out the option to resize or switch to a larger font? hello……?
October 14th, 2006 at 1:59 amAsk me yourself! No, I don’t read messed stories. I only read erotica.
Comment by Zooey
I read Harry Potter and touch myself. :P
October 14th, 2006 at 2:02 amYou are a sick, sick Yeti, you know that? :)
October 14th, 2006 at 2:04 amYo Zoe, I didn’t know,,,,I read it a few years ago in college and it disturbed me highly so I know what you mean. How far did you make it through it…?
October 14th, 2006 at 2:04 am130 – Yeah, it’s dumb. They’re probably trying to save bandwidth or something *I say as thought I know what I’m talking about*
October 14th, 2006 at 2:05 amYou are a sick, sick Yeti, you know that? :)
Comment by Zooey
Teh. You should meet Bigfoot sometime. That guy’s an asshole.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:06 amren,
I didn’t make it through any of it! I only said that because Yeti said it was messed up. :P
October 14th, 2006 at 2:06 amHarry P is the #1 requested book in Abu Graibe….And Shays just said that Abu Graibe is all about being a sex ring, or all about sex, or whatever… So, what does this all mean?
October 14th, 2006 at 2:08 am133 – Which one, Franny and Zooey or The Yellow Wallpaper?
October 14th, 2006 at 2:09 amren if this is the permanent font size for the threads, then I will not read most of the postings > just the first and the last, because it is too small of writing and too pale to read > I use glasses, but no way do I want to cause my eyes to deteriate to need stronger bifocals! This font size will kill TP off > sorry to say or they just want people to read the TP headline and forget about the posts underneath?!
October 14th, 2006 at 2:10 amJay,
It’s probably just a glitch. They’ve had this problem before, I think.
I’m outta here, my fine gentlemen! I just got a better offer!
Enjoy!
October 14th, 2006 at 2:14 am#139 initially i saw it on the Air America going under blog, and in the middle of the blog today the font switched around 2 or 3 o’clock i think. I thought it was to minimize the negitive feedback of the moron repugs patting their backs on the blog. then I went to the other blogs and they were different too. I was like give me a F#cking break already…
October 14th, 2006 at 2:14 am“This morning, we suggested that readers email Chris Wallace and tell him to ask Condoleezza Rice …”
I have a better idea; why don’t we stop watching pundits like Chris Wallace sophistically ‎politicize issues instead of factually reporting the news? In other words: TURN OFF ‎THE TV!‎
October 14th, 2006 at 2:15 am137 – That’s a fun fact for friends!
October 14th, 2006 at 2:15 am#138 yeti, the yellow wallpaper….
October 14th, 2006 at 2:15 amG’ night Zoo. DOn’t let the flesh eating mind slugs from Star Trek 2 the Wrath of Khan control your thoughts, or something like that.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:18 amman, If I had yellow wallpaper I would loose my freakin mind too….
October 14th, 2006 at 2:18 amI lived in an appartment in Utica Ny for awhile where I was going to school and the walls were a deep eggshell yellow, I just wanted to scream, I looked like the monk painting whenever i had a hangover.. f#cking sucked royally
#138 yeti, the yellow wallpaper….
Comment by ren
Ohhhh, well yeah. It’s a pretty freaky story. I just concentrate on the strength of the story, rather than the freak out factor. it really helps to read from an analytical perspective.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:21 amman, If I had yellow wallpaper I would loose my freakin mind too….
I lived in an appartment in Utica Ny for awhile where I was going to school and the walls were a deep eggshell yellow, I just wanted to scream, I looked like the monk painting whenever i had a hangover.. f#cking sucked royally
Comment by ren
That stuff drives me up the wall, man. Like I used to hang out with this kid and his house had this weird off-white, off-beige tone, and it drove me crazy because it never looked right.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:23 amren I hope it’s just a glitch, or a cyber attack on TP, otherwise it means posts are no longer important to TP > just the headlines for each thread and the information at the top > font size for posts says: do not even bother to read it! Plus fighting the “+” symbol appearing between my name wears me out > lol.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:23 amWell I guess the tumbleweeds are rolling now…
October 14th, 2006 at 2:24 amI’ll finish with one of my favorite posts that was a response to the Chris Shays story on the Abu Graibe being a sex house of sorts…..
Maf54: Do electrodes make you a little horny?
(xxxx): Kind of…
Maf54: Cool!
Spudge,
I am aware that you can change the text. I did. What I was getting at is that TP is engaging in a massive email campaign. It’s probably a good idea to focus on one topic (the cole) but I do think the meeting with Tenet and Rice two months prior would have been good to insert. It’s not a very complex question and ties in…but I do see why TP did not include it.
The problem, as I see it, is that Rice will get a softball as a result while refuting the Tenet meeting would not be easy at all (or at least make her look dishonest to any ‘moderate’ that tunes into Fox propaganda).
And no, I do not think that the TP drive will have any effect. That said, I HOPE IT DOES but I believe that they will simply ignore us (we don’t comprise their ad/viewer base)
October 14th, 2006 at 2:24 am150 – ha! Nice. I’m going to bed. Wish you all a swell evening.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:26 am#147 #148 Yeti, It’s like they couldn’t make up their f#cking minds or someone wanted to preempt the nicotine coloring…..
October 14th, 2006 at 2:27 am#149 Jay, no sh!t,,, I wouldn’t reach that far on the cyber attacks though… I think its like someone said already about it being a wanna be improvement.. f#cking jackoffs….
October 14th, 2006 at 2:29 amHopefully – we’ll get an update tomorrow night?? about the number of emails sent.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:32 amThanks
Spudge,
October 14th, 2006 at 2:33 amI am aware that you can change the text. I did. What I was getting at is that TP is engaging in a massive email campaign.
So that’s the reason for the mini text??????????????????????????
And by the way, WHAT’S WITH THE BEYOND DELAY IN THE POSTS ON THIS GOD DAMN SITE ANYWAYS? why is there such a f#cking delay on the posts? I end up responding to posts that have already had the questions answered…..What’s the F#cking point? and when there is traffic at TP forget it, Pack a lunch…. If TP needs donations just spit it out… otherwise get ready to go the way of the Dodo dumbasses….
October 14th, 2006 at 2:38 amWell, It’s getting a little windy out here, outch, oh damn, ouch, these…. damn….tummble weeeds….oh,,,,,,damn you,,,,,
October 14th, 2006 at 2:49 amwell gots to get out of here before it gets too bad….. crickets,,,,tumbleweeds,,,,,,man standing off camera looking back and forth like in ren and stimpy…. hmmmm….tumbleweeds……
I will be back later today to see if the font size is changed back to the way it was before > if not, then TP may not want anyone to read the posts?!
October 14th, 2006 at 2:55 amI see the same people are coming unhinged trying to prove to themselves that a so-called “sweet land deal” is as serious an offence as invading a foreign, sovereign nation that posed no threat -and then failing (no, refusing) to hold the culprits accountable for the ensuing debacle.
The really funny aspect is that the irony of repeating “no one takes libs seriously!” while spending hours posting long-winded rants here is lost on the faithful my-strong-father-figure-can-do-no-wrong Bush cultists.
October 14th, 2006 at 3:01 amEh, no harm in asking, although the USS Cole, along with the first bombing of the WTC and the bombing of two US embassies in Africa, happened under Clinton’s watch, and all Clinton did was flacidly lob a couple Tomahawks at a desert camp. Moreover, Clinton’s approach, like Carter, led to US helicopters crashing, and Somali’s dragging US soldiers bodies through the streets.
I guarantee, that should Chris Wallace ask Condi that question, Condi won’t throw a hissy fit like that woman-abuser Clinton – amazing how he can sexually assault women and act like such a woman at the same time.
October 14th, 2006 at 7:21 amThe reason nobody did anything about the USS Cole bombing is because they knew it was coming and let it happen – just like 9/11.
Ask Israel what they knew and when they knew it. Ask them about Khobar Towers too. Ask them about the USS Liberty too.
October 14th, 2006 at 7:31 amhttp://msnbc.msn.com/id/15222134/
ISRAELI AGENT – Spy Jonathan Pollard caught on tape
Surveillance video from 1985 shows American stealing secrets for Israel
By Lisa Myers & the NBC Investigative Unit
WASHINGTON – What you see here is rarely caught on tape — a spy in action.
“This is Pollard actually in the act of stealing highly classified information,” says formal Naval investigator Ron Olive. “1500 top secret documents in a matter of seconds.”
Olive helped catch Jonathan Pollard and has written a book about the Navy intelligence analyst who spied for Israel.
NBC News has obtained surveillance video, which for the first time, actually shows Pollard pilfering classified documents and stuffing them into a briefcase supplied by Israel.
When a co-worker walks by, Pollard reaches to close his drawer, then resumes what’s he’s doing.
“That tells us that he knows that he is stealing,” says Olive.
Over 18 months, he stole an estimated 1 million documents, including sensitive intelligence about the Soviet Union and the Middle East, potentially compromising sources and methods.
“It devastated the national security of this country,” says Olive.
Though Pollard confessed to the crime, leaders of Israel and Pollard’s supporters in the U.S. have vigorously lobbied to get him released from prison or pardoned, arguing that he was, after all, spying for a friend of the U.S., not a sworn enemy.
Pollard was sentenced to life in prison and has served 20 years.
“He has served longer than any American in history for spying for an ally, and every day he spends in prison now is a day of injustice,” says Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz.
“It was the closest guarded secrets that this country had,” says Olive. The Israeli government says it will continue to work for Pollard’s release on humanitarian grounds.
ISRAELI AGENT – Spy Ariel Weinmann charged with ESPIONAGE
Another Spy Story Suppressed to Save Israel
Posted: 2006/08/16
From: Mathaba
Well guess what reader, the United States government has done it again, they’ve hidden another Jewish spy from the American public, but this time the cats out of the bag, someone leaked the details and now we find that another Jewish American, this time a Navy Petty Officer by the name of Ariel J. Weinmann has been arrested for passing along Top Secret information related to National Security to the Israeli government.
In Weinmann’s case, one can bet the information he stole was of a highly classified nature, you see Weinmann was stationed on an American nuclear submarine, the USS Albuquerque.
The Navy buried Weimann’s case in the hope that the American people would never find out about him and what he did, just as the government did with Asher Karni, an Israeli Jew arrested at Denver International Airport on January 2, 2004 for having sold [past tense] more than sixty nuclear weapon detonators to Pakistan.
Many people reading this will automatically assume that the Navy was keeping the case mum so as not to let the Israeli’s know they had caught Weinmann, but this isn’t the case, the Israeli’s probably knew before the Navy that Weinmann had been arrested, the Navy was keeping the case quiet in an effort to keep the American people in the dark, just as the United States government did with more than one hundred and fifty Israeli’s after they had been arrested for espionage just after 9-11, and the five Israeli’s that were arrested on 9-11 as a result of being witnessed by several people laughing while filming the impact of the airliners into the twin towers and clapping one another on the back in a congratulatory manner.
His case is notable as an espionage case where the Navy and trial court officials have denied access to basic information, including the court docket.
http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=541784
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October 14th, 2006 at 7:40 amUS Submariner, Ariel Joseph Weinmann, stole top secret nuclear submarine data and passed it on to a foreign country, initially declared by the Jeruselum Post to be Israel.
Israel already owns and operates one submarine retrofitted to fire nuclear-tipped cruise missiles (obtained from US) and has two more similar subs on order.
Perhaps what they needed was the targeting information pertaining to the targets in Iran identified by the US government?
This OUGHT TO BE a gigantic story – as big or bigger than the Jonathan Pollar Spy scandal.
Remember the (totally fake) terror scare recently in London. That ruse was specifically designed to ensure that all TV coverage featured a “TERROR IN THE SKIES” banner headline – while two negative stories about ISRAELI SPYING IN THE US slipped out under the radar.
At the height of the “Liquid Bomb Threat” hysteria, one story came out that AIPAC had been denied in its efforts to have the Franklin/AIPAC spying case thrown out of court. That case links to the Scooter Libby case. It’s all about Israel.
Hard on the heels of that report came CNN’s Barbara Starr (a CIA/DOD asset) with the story that “Ariel Joseph Weinmann” had been arrested SEVERAL MONTHS EARLIER on charges of espionage on behalf of a foreign country – which she managed to find an anonymous source to tell her was “Russia.”
I laughed out loud when she said it.
WAKE UP PEOPLE.
More of our state secrets have been lost to Israel than all other countries combined.
Espionage is punishable by death.
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October 14th, 2006 at 7:41 amAIPAC SPY SCANDAL:
CONSPIRACY TO COMMUNICATE CLASSIFIED INFORMATION TO AGENT OF FOREIGN GOVERNMENT
1. Defendant LAWRENCE ANTHONY FRANKLIN was employed by the United States government at the Department of Defense (DoD) in the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD), International Security Affairs (ISA), Office of Near East and South Asia, Office of Northern Gulf Affairs, Iran desk, and held a Top Secret security clearance with access to Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI). FRANKLIN’S office was located within the Pentagon, in the Eastern District of Virginia. FRANKLIN was also a Colonel in the United States Air Force Reserve (USAFR).
2. Throughout his employment with the United States government, FRANKLIN repeatedly signed written agreements acknowledging his duty to safeguard classified information
3. At no time was FRANKLIN authorized to release classified information to ROSEN and WEISMANN except with respect to Overt Acts 43 and 44 in count one.
4. Defendant STEVEN J. ROSEN was employed as the Director of Foreign Policy Issues for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) in Washington, D.C. ROSEN was hired by AIPAC in or about July 1982. AIPAC, according to its website, is ” America’s ProIsrael Lobby.” AIPAC lobbies the U.S. Congress and Executive Branch agencies on various issues related to Israel and U.S. Foreign policy in the Middle East. As the Director of Foreign Policy Issues, ROSEN lobbied on behalf of AIPAC, primarily with officials within the Executive Branch of the U.S. government. During the time period of this indictment, ROSEN did not have a U.S. government security clearance and was not authorized to receive or possess U.S. government classified information.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/reports/2005/franklin_indictment_04aug2005.htm
WAYS, MANNER AND MEANS OF THE CONSPIRACY
A. It was part of the conspiracy that, in an effort to influence persons within and outside the United States government, ROSEN and WEISSMAN would cultivate relationships with FRANKLIN and others and would use their contacts within the U.S. government and elsewhere to gather sensitive U.S. government information, including classified information relating to the national defense, for subsequent unlawful communication, delivery and transmission to persons not entitled to receive it.
B. It was further part of the conspiracy that FRANKLIN would use his position as a desk officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense to gather information relating to the national defense, for subsequent unlawful communication, delivery and transmission to ROSEN and WEISSMAN and others not entitled to receive it.
C. It was further part of the conspiracy that FRANKLIN, ROSEN and WEISSMAN would meet at locations in the Eastern District of Virginia and elsewhere, to exchange information, including classified information relating to the national defense.
D. It was further part of the conspiracy that FRANKLIN would unlawfully deliver, communicate and transmit classified national defense information in an effort to advance his own personal foreign policy agenda and influence persons within and outside the United States government.
E. It was further part of the conspiracy that ROSEN and WEISSMAN, without lawful authority, would communicate to persons not entitled to receive it, classified information relating to the national defense.
On or about June 11, 1999, WEISSMAN had a conversation with FO-1 and told FO-1 that a “Secret FBI, classified FBI report” on the Khobar Towers bombing had been prepared and that he (WEISSMAN) had gotten this information from three different sources, including United States government officials.
On or about March 13, 2003 , WEISSMAN had a separate conversation with FO-1. WEISSMAN asked FO-1, “Have you talked to Steve about Iran lately?” WEISSMAN related that “we” had heard from a “friend of ours in the Pentagon” about a national intelligence document. WEISSMAN discussed specifics about the classified draft internal policy document and the internal deliberations of United States government officials.
On or about March 18, 2003 , in a conversation with a member of the media about the classified draft internal policy document, ROSEN stated, “I’m not supposed to know this,” and that it was a “considerable story.” He encouraged the member of the media to pursue the story.
October 14th, 2006 at 7:44 amBones 2 : I’m actually an advocate and I can tell you that you are in breach of copyright. If anyone finds out who you are, you could face hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of damages. What you have written actually goes beyond the ‘fair use’ defence.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:09 amThere has been a node high up in our government – along with hordes of shiny-eyed zealots out in the population – that believes that the US and Isreal are the same state entity. You’ve seen the talk – an attack on Israel treated literally as if it were an attack on us; promulgation of American responses to minor affronts to Israel that consider no aspect of the costs to the United States to be incurred by such responses.
I think that most of these people – Wolfowitz, Perle, Frum… have for some reason or another been moved away from direct access to power, but they are still very influential. They’ve left dedicated opperatives around the White House and Pentagon like stray cat-turds, and their gentile associates (Cheney, Rumsfeld,…) still consider exploiting this concept of an intercontinental state apparatus if there is power or money to be gained on a case by case basis.
They also have a strong cheering section in the press – Krauthammer, Robert Kagan, Bill Kristol remain true to the neocon ideal that considers the well-being of Israel before thinking of the well-being of America. …come to think of it, they never get around to talking about the welfare of America.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:23 amoff topic, i know, but does ANYONE know of a link that shows the Santorum/Casey debate in Pittsburg a few days ago?
October 14th, 2006 at 8:29 am.
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Ledeen’s ideas are repeated daily by such figures as Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz. His views virtually define the stark departure from American foreign policy philosophy that existed before the tragedy of Sept. 11, 2001. He basically believes that violence in the service of the spread of democracy is America’s manifest destiny. Consequently, he has become the philosophical legitimator of the American occupation of Iraq.
Now Michael Ledeen is calling for regime change beyond Iraq. In an address entitled “Time to Focus on Iran — The Mother of Modern Terrorism,” for the policy forum of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) on April 30, he declared, “the time for diplomacy is at an end; it is time for a free Iran, free Syria and free Lebanon.”
With a group of other conservatives, Ledeen recently set up the Center for Democracy in Iran (CDI), an action group focusing on producing regime change in Iran.
Quotes from Ledeen’s works reveal a peculiar set of beliefs about American attitudes toward violence. “Change — above all violent change — is the essence of human history,” he proclaims in his book, “Machiavelli on Modern Leadership: Why Machiavelli’s Iron Rules Are as Timely and Important Today as Five Centuries Ago.” In an influential essay in the National Review Online he asserts, “Creative destruction is our middle name. We do it automatically … it is time once again to export the democratic revolution.”
Iraq, Iran and Syria are the first and foremost nations where this should happen, according to Ledeen. The process by which this should be achieved is a violent one, termed “total war,” a concept pioneered by the 19th century Prussian general, Karl von Clausewitz in his classic book “On War.”
Ledeen’s take on this idea is wedded to ideology. In summarizing his book “The War Against the Terror Masters” on the American Enterprise Institute Web site, he writes: “We wage total war because we fight in the name of an idea, and ideas either triumph or fail … totally.” In his reckoning, force is the only reliable strategy to enforce our ideology on our enemies. In the same summary he claims, drawing inspiration from Machiavelli: “We can lead by the force of high moral example … [but] fear is much more reliable, and lasts longer. Once we show that we are capable of dealing out terrible punishment to our enemies, our power will be far greater.”
http://www.alternet.org/story/15860/
A fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, Ledeen holds a Ph.D. in History and Philosophy from the University of Wisconsin. In 1983, on the recommendation of Richard Perle, Ledeen was hired at the Department of Defense as a consultant on terrorism. While being investigated as a security risk by his supervisor, Noel Koch, it was learned from the CIA station that Ledeen had been carried in Agency files as an agent of influence of a foreign government: Israel.
After having his access to classified materials blocked he ceased working there. He next appeared at the National Security Council as a consultant working with NSC head Robert McFarlane. Ledeen was involved in the transfer of arms to Iran during the Iran-Contra affair — an adventure that he documented in the book “Perilous Statecraft: An Insider’s Account of the Iran-Contra Affair.” A prominent member of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) board of governors and the Center for Security Policy (CSP), he advocates “total war” inline with the “Grand Strategy for the Middle East” which advocates “Iraq as the tactical pivot, Saudi Arabia as the strategic pivot and Egypt as the prize.” Ledeen is presently a serving member on the China Commission and, with the support of DOD Undersecretary for Policy Douglas Feith, he has since 2001 been employed as a consultant for the Office of Special Plans OSP). He is involved in the handling of classified materials and has high-level security clearances. He was also involved in election rigging of the 2000 election.
http://www.nogw.com/warforisrael.html
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October 14th, 2006 at 8:37 amWURMSER
THE
WAR
MONGER
“The CDI’s Ledeen, Amitay and Sobhani were featured speakers at a May 2003 forum on “the future of Iran’ sponsored by AEI, the Hudson Institute and the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. The forum, chaired by the Hudson Institute’s Meyrav Wurmser, the Israeli-born wife of David Wurmser (he serves as Cheney’s leading expert on Iran and Syria), included a presentation by Un Lubrani of Israel’s Ministry of Defense.
Summarizing the sentiment of neoconservative ideologues and strategists, Meyrav Wurmser said: “Our fight against Iraq was only a battle in a long war. It would be ill-conceived to think we can deal with Iraq alone. We must move on, and faster.”
JINSA, a neoconservative organization established in 1976 that fosters closer strategic and military ties between the United States and Israel, also has its sights on Iran. At a JINSA policy forum in April 2003 titled “Time to Focus on Iran-The Mother of Modern Terrorism,” Ledeen declared, “The time for diplomacy is at an end; it is time for a free Iran, free Syria and free Lebanon.”
JINSA, along with CSP, serves as one of the main institutional links to the military-industrial complex for neoconservatives. Ledeen served as JINSA’s first executive director and was JINSA’s “Godfather,” according to Amitay. Amitay is a JINSA vice chair. JINSA board members or advisers also include former CIA director James Woolsey, former Rep. Jack Kemp and the AEI’s Joshua Muravchik. After he joined the administration, Feith resigned from JINSA.’s board of advisers, as did Vice President Dick Cheney and Undersecretary of State for Arms Control John Bolton.”
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Central_Asia_watch/Is_Iran_Next.html
“We must move on, and faster.”
October 14th, 2006 at 8:39 amMo Do talks about McCain the lady-killer and Hillary Clinton.
October 14th, 2006 at 9:01 amI wantr to thank Judd for giving me the opportunity to send Mr. Wallace the following email:
Mr. Wallace:
I appreciate your willingness to ask your guests questions based on viewer e-mail. I am looking forward to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice’s appearance on Fox News Sunday tomorrow. I know that many left wing nutroots groups are pressing you to ask ridiculous questions of Secretary Rice.
One such question has to do with the USS Cole in October 2000. The nutroots insist that the Bush administration must answer questions about why it did not attack al-Qaeda in response to the attack on the USS Cole.
Please do not waste your time, or that of your viewers, on such ridiculous nonsense. Anyone who is not already blinded by their hatred of President Bush and/or their love of President Clinton will recall that it was President Clinton, not President Bushmer, who was in office from October 2000 to January 2001; that it was only President Clinton, and not President Bush, who had the power to wield military force during that time; that it was President Clinton, not President Bush, who let the bombers’ trails grow cold during that time; that it also was President Clinton who helped to hinder President Bush’s preparations for a prospective transition during the Florida recount debacle; and that it was Senate Democrats who obstructed the confirmation of Bush adminsitration officials, including the Attorney General, well into the middle of 2001.
Please demonstrate your intelligence and your regard for the good sense of your viewers, and ask Secretary Rice other, more important questions than this.
Thank you,
October 14th, 2006 at 9:45 amCitizen Dad
Dahr Jamail, noted independent journalist described himself this way in Issue 19 of Newtopia Magazine. Some “independent journalist”
I was born and raised in Houston, Texas and attended college at Texas A&M University where I majored in Speech Communications. After graduating, I moved to Colorado, then Utah, then Washington State where I worked for awhile on a Masters in English Literature. Funds ran out, so I took a job working in an air monitoring laboratory on Johnston Island, a US territory in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. We monitored the air at a chemical demilitarization plant that incinerated 6% of the chemical weapons (now obsolete) of the military.
While there I traveled around the world on my breaks from the monotonous job. The perspective and experiences I gained from my travels opened my mind and heart to the world-seeing the unearned and unfair privilege we in the US had struck me whilst traveling to so many developing countries like Indonesia and Palau, then later Nepal.
I had a calling to move to Alaska to climb Denali. I moved there in 1996, climbed Denali the next summer, and have stayed ever since. There I worked as a mountain guide during summers, as well as assisting in rescues with the park service. My life there for 5 years centered primarily on climbing and being in the mountains. Climbing found me traveling to Mexico, Pakistan, Chile and Argentina.
One of the largest influences on me was a job I took in the climbing off-season which was working as a personal assistant for my dear friend Duane French, who experiences quadriplegia. I saw the efforts he went to just to exist, and how government policy directly affected his life. Here I was awakened politically. Our daily discussions of policy and political parties got my wheels turning, pulling me out of the classic American comfort-zone of apathy and ignorance.
Then of course watching the stealing of the presidency in 2000 by the Bush regime shocked me further into action, followed by the military response to 9/11, then of course the selling of the Iraq invasion. During the media sell job, I could take no more and knew that this was an information war. I had done some freelance writing for various magazines and continued this by writing in our alternative weekly rag in Anchorage.
We did a good job showing the alternative view after the events of 9/11, showing the US support of bin Laden, who the Reagan administration funded and trained them, etc. Shortly thereafter our editor was fired, so the entire staff left in protest within one month.
So I started saving my money and came to the front lines to start telling the truth from Iraq in November, 2003.
This guy is no “independent journalist.” He has been on his own anti-American propaganda mission ever since he came down from his mountaintop. He gives aid and comfort to our enemies. He has no credibility at all.
October 14th, 2006 at 9:57 amJay Randal –
October 14th, 2006 at 11:12 amIf you’re still out there…
There’s one more thing you can do, but it’s ridiculous.
If you’re using internet explorer from MS, the view menu has a text size option, you can bump it up from default medium, but the text gets really huge!!!
I’m not a huge fan of Mike Wallace, but son Chris is one apple that fell far, far from the tree.
In one generation, we descend from the quality journalism of 60 Minutes to the crap being shoveled on Fox news.
T.V. journalism is badly in need of a revolution – back to the pride and quality we used to get with the networks.
October 14th, 2006 at 11:17 amSo don’t read his shit, Citizen Dad.
October 14th, 2006 at 11:17 amDear Citizen+Dad :
By “independant” it is meant that he is essentially a freelancer (i.e., not on the staff of a particular publication or broadcaster).
You were probably thinking of this in the context of Republican, Democrat, independant.
As far as his credability, he has spent over 5 months in Iraq since the war began, unembedded and not lounging in the relative safety of the Green Zone. How long have you spent there?
By the way, disagreeing with one’s government or its policies does not make one anti-country, but you might not be able to grasp that.
Another Bush follower educated. Next please !
October 14th, 2006 at 11:20 am–I am not sure it is Botox. I think that is Republican woman face. If you notice they all look like they suck lemons.–
#87 They do suck lemons. They’re frustrated because their men are all busy playing with little boys.
October 14th, 2006 at 11:23 amHere’s the question for Condi: “Condi, when did your fantasy of becoming George W Bush’s wife begin?”
October 14th, 2006 at 12:10 pmAt this point it seems a waste to add to this list, especially with the Rush-robot above, but unfortunately, even if Wallace asks the question, Rice will be prepared with some version of spin or denial. Need a surprise atttack like what Clinton claims occurred.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:44 pmIn addition to this obstruction of info and truth in the 9/11 commission, some of the 9/11 widows have set up a petition to declassify the July 10, 2001 meeting between Rice and Tenet here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/july10/petition.html
October 14th, 2006 at 5:34 pm[...] Source: Think Progress Posted by Michael Kolanos Filed in Mainstream Media [...]
October 14th, 2006 at 11:36 pmTwo more questions for Rice:
How can a person in your position dismiss the Israeli bombing of Lebanon as being merely the birthpains of a new Middle East?
Was Israel the midwife or America?
October 14th, 2006 at 11:50 pm[...] Check it out. They’ll be monitering Fox News Sunday to see how Wallace responds – —————————————————————— Our brilliant leftist college progressives forget one little detail: Bill Clinton was in office (1993-2001) when the attacks occurred (Oct 12TH, 2000). Oh and just one other small thing; “moniter” is spelled with two O’s (monitor) dear "progressive" people. So much for progress! [...]
October 15th, 2006 at 6:45 amFox didn’t say they asked Clinton the question because of emails.
They said they asked it because of VIEWER emails.
The difference being WTF do they care what you non-viewers want ?
October 15th, 2006 at 10:13 amsome of the 9/11 widows have set up a petition to declassify the July 10, 2001 meeting between Rice and Tenet here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/july10/petition.html
Comment by Rob+9-11+Truth+seeker — October 14, 2006 @ 5:34 pm
Why’d they do that ? No space left on the walls of their public toilets to write out a request to the office of the President of the United States for desclassification of classified intel ?
Not even the NSA could track down a successful petition from that place.
October 15th, 2006 at 10:19 am