Rumsfeld Allies Launch Smear Campaign Against NATO General
Rumsfeld Allies Launch Smear Campaign Against NATO General
Gen. James Jones, the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, was quoted in Bob Woodward’s State of Denial as believing the Iraq war is a “debacle” and that “the Joint Chiefs have been systematically emasculated by Rumsfeld.” Jones is also quoted as cautioning Joint Chiefs Chairman Peter Pace: “You should not be the parrot on the secretary’s shoulder.”
To the dismay of Rumsfeld and his supporters, Jones has stood by the criticisms reported in the book. He recently said, “I don’t challenge Bob’s characterization of it, except that had I seen [the book], I probably would have suggested that the tone was more critical than I intended it to be. … I did talk about Iraq with a concern that Iraq deserves.”
Jones now finds himself the target of a smear campaign at the hands of Rumsfeld’s allies:
“Military and civilian officials close to the secretary are taken aback by Gen. Jones’ comments,” said the former aide, who asked not to be named. “Rumsfeld certainly takes a very different view of how he has empowered the Joint Chiefs by involving them in every decision. James Jones is highly political — a real Washington operator. He of all generals to claim that the chiefs have become political is highly ironic if not laughable.“
The anonymous aide said Rumsfeld is particularly upset because he believes Jones owes him gratitude for recommending Jones to become the first Marine general to head the NATO Command in Jan. 2003. “Rumsfeld bent over backwards to accommodate this guy,” said the former official.
Before the war, Jones criticized Rumsfeld’s plan to topple Saddam Hussein by using special forces in a repetition of the tactics that succeeded in Afghanistan. “It would be foolish, if you were ever committed to going into Iraq, to think that the principles that were successful in Afghanistan would necessarily be successful in Iraq. In my opinion, they would not.” Now, Rumsfeld and his allies are determined to ruin the reputation of a general whose assessments have been proven correct.
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They just f*&ked with the wrong Marine. It will be interesting to see how the duck and cover…er I mean stay the course crowd deals with…yet another seasoned PROFESSIONAL who is just giving an honest assessment of the situation (aka: doing his job). Semper Fi.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:05 pmWhy is the media still printing quotes from anonymous lying assholes? Oh it’s the washington times, never mind.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:07 pmRumsfeld is a psychopath. Period.
When will the military start standing up to this freak? Most of the generals must hate him with a burning passion by now.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:05 pmGeneral Jones obviously has no loyalty what-so-ever. It is shameful that he would criticize the very man who allowed him the privilege of commanding in such a high billet. Hind-sight is always 20-20. Too bad Rummy can’t go back into the past and re-think making this disloyal clown the Supreme Allied Commander of Europe.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:07 pmSo the wheels continue to come off.
The Joint Chiefs have been the parrot on Rumsfeld’s shoulder for quite some time. A common complaint of mine has been the lack of independence of the current crop of Generals. They have been putting their own career ahead of America’s best interests for quite some time. Why other conclusion ist there? Only retired Generals are speaking up.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:10 pmGeneral Jones obviously has no loyalty what-so-ever. It is shameful that he would criticize the very man who allowed him the privilege of commanding in such a high billet. Hind-sight is always 20-20. Too bad Rummy can’t go back into the past and re-think making this disloyal clown the Supreme Allied Commander of Europe.
Comment by A+Real+American — October 13, 2006 @ 5:07 pm
To anyone reading this thread: visit the global warming thread (two threads below) to see ARA’s tour de force explaining how global warming is not only a myth, but actually impossible.
Did I say pathetic?
October 13th, 2006 at 5:13 pmTo A Real American,
October 13th, 2006 at 5:16 pmA true patriot puts whats good for the country above all. What you are describing is called a ‘loyalist’….and if you are an american, it is sad to see people as ignorent as you exist.
#6-
Actually, I said that human-caused global warming is impossible. Get your facts straight. Oh, I forgot. Misrepresenting the facts and misleading people is what liberals do best.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:17 pmRumsfeld certainly takes a very different view of how he has empowered the Joint Chiefs by involving them in every decision. – - In Fiasco, Thomas Ricks lays out how Rummy ran roughshod over the Joint Chiefs and appointed ’smiling yes men’ like Gen. Myers and Gen. Pace.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:18 pmSomeone please remind me when doing your job, ie. protecting American interests, was something bad. General Jones’ loyalty is not to the failed policy and lost war cabal that has never served in a position even remotely similar to his. He obviously loves this country enough to stand up and say something to those who seem to care less about anything this country stands for. The curtain is up and the lights are on. No one is a fraid of the GOP or their plan for continued failure. God Bless General Jones and the other CAREER MILITARY PROFESSIONALS who love this country and can not stand by and let it be destroyed by this gang of criminals and draft dodgers.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:22 pmAll these so-called patriot generals are just a bunch of cowards. They didn’t say shit until they retired. Where was the dissent when it could have done some good – while they were on active duty? They have put nothing on the line. All they want is some cheap publicity. Unfortunately, the news media is more than willing to give these disloyal men all the coverage they can get. It is shameful.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:23 pm#10-
Career military professionals? These men are nothing more than CAREERIST cowards who didn’t have the spine or candor to speak up when they were actually doing their job. They are weak, and they were too scared to voice their opinion at the critical time and place.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:26 pmMisrepresenting the facts and misleading people is what liberals do best.
Comment by A+Real+American
You are full of shit, Real. At least as to who is doing the misleading. I think junior said it best:
‘Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again’ — George W. Bush
Come November 7, you and the other rigthwingers are going to get a serious lesson in civics, pal.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:33 pmThe communists and fascists used to purge their military leaders with frequency as well. I don’t remember any real democracies ever doing that.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:36 pm#11 and #12 Y’all watch a lot of war movies and read Tom Clancy books I bet. Go enlist and request MOS 0311. It will be fun watching you attempt to stand in those boots you so flippantly mock. No wait, someone else can go fight while you sit at home and watch Star Trek reruns. Real American my ass.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:36 pmWhy does the truth hate our freedom?
October 13th, 2006 at 5:36 pmYou are full of shit, Real.
Comment by Joe Sixpack — October 13, 2006 @ 5:33 pm
Geez, Joe, for a second there I thought you were talking about me! ;-)
ARA, I am following you around from one thread to another, just cuz you are so much fun!
October 13th, 2006 at 5:37 pm#14-
Dude. Get real. Come November 7th, when we pick up even MORE seats in the House and Senate then we have now, I’m going to be on this blog ALL DAY, and I’m going to shove it down your throat. You think because a bunch of polls say the Dems are going to win, that is the way it will go down? I think the ‘04 election proved how biased and inaccurate voter polls are. See you on the 7th.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:38 pmGeneral Jones, please meet General Shensiki
October 13th, 2006 at 5:39 pmThe anonymous aide said Rumsfeld is particularly upset because he believes Jones owes him gratitude for recommending Jones to become the first Marine general to head the NATO Command in Jan. 2003. “Rumsfeld bent over backwards to accommodate this guy,†said the former official.
Its a bitch when they don’t STAY bought, isn’t it?
October 13th, 2006 at 5:40 pm#15-
I AM in the military, dufus. And what the hell is MOS 0311? Never heard of it. You sound like ash-and-trash to me.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:40 pmThese men are nothing more than CAREERIST cowards who didn’t have the spine or candor to speak up when they were actually doing their job.
Comment by A+Real+American
I don’t know. Just looking at the honerable General Jones, USMC, a real life hero with a chest full of fruit salad, I bet you wouldn’t have the guts to say that to his face.
I mean, even as old as he is, and to put it in real jarhead language even you might understand, I bet the General could still rip your head off and shit down your neck any day of the week.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:43 pmA Real American; I love the heroic handles wingnuts give themselves. Only the biggest A-Holes like to proclaim they’re more American than everyone else. Break please.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:43 pmThese men are nothing more than CAREERIST cowards who didn’t have the spine or candor to speak up when they were actually doing their job.
Comment by A+Real+American
For once I’ve got to agree with you. Had the JCS or any of the combattant commanders been doing their job, we would have had a coup against Bush-Cheney Co. long ago.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:47 pmRove’s favorite song:
smearing is my business and business is good
October 13th, 2006 at 5:47 pmJudd, I have an idea. On November 8th, please post a “top ten” of comments like this:
“Dude. Get real. Come November 7th, when we pick up even MORE seats in the House and Senate then we have now”
That way we’ll all remember who to expect to show up. Should be a real list of who’s who. And they will all be eating crow.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:49 pmSmear campaign? – Now there’s something Republicans can (almost) succeed at. They sure as hell don’t know how to handle wars or ethical matters.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:49 pmI AM in the military, dufus. And what the hell is MOS 0311? Never heard of it. You sound like ash-and-trash to me.
Comment by A+Real+American
Hey shit-for-brains. MOS 0311 is a Marine Corps grunt. I know for I am also a former grunt. I am also a former Army “careerist”: MOS 11B5X. For a REAL AMERICAN and a REAL military man, you sure don’t know much shit, do you?
October 13th, 2006 at 5:49 pmARA – don’t you have a “raghead” to “dust” or a wife to beat somewhere? chickenshit.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:50 pmA real American has quite a few powerful things to say about some Generals who have spent their entire military careers defending this country. To become a General you have to show intelligence, ability to command and years of dedicated service.
I have worked for senior ranking generals before and the one thing they had in common was a genuine belief in the soldiers they commanded. There are politics to deal with at the 3 and 4 star levels but the core focus has always been on the soldiers.
For you to say they are cowards is a cowardly, vile act that shows your utter lack of respect for this country. You know nothing of what true americans fight for and believe. A real American you are not. You are a weasel.
Your earlier arguments shows YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!! You attacked the messenger for not being loyal but ignored the message.
The military execution of Operation Iraqi Freedom was a politically driving, ill thought through mess that our brave soldiers are now having to be policemen (something I bet your sorry ass was screaming about during the Clinton Administration. “We shouldn’t be the world’s police force” I believe was the montra).
You have a right to say what you want. I have a right and a duty to show you and all who read this what a complete failure as a human being you are.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:53 pm#28 Thanks, Joe, for reminding ARA that there are plenty of Vet’s around who aren’t too awful impressed with Donny or his boss.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:53 pmMOS 0311 is a Marine Corps grunt. I know for I am also a former grunt. I am also a former Army “careeristâ€: MOS 11B5X. – Joe Sixpack-
Looks to me like you washed out of the Corps, then tried to make it in the Army and couldn’t handle that either. Like I thought, ash-and-trash all the way.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:55 pmJoe 6Pack, I salute you 11bravo. Infantry, Rifleman.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:56 pmSurreal American is? a military man? Must be a flyboy (or girl) or a swabby not to know 0311. Even an Army enlisted man knew that…
#30-
Actually, I think I’m pretty successful as a human being. I’ve got a beautiful wife, a nice house, a truck, a car, a boat, and a Harley. I’m living the American dream, all thanks to W.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:01 pmAll of a sudden , out the wood works come all all those paid narrow minded
October 13th, 2006 at 6:02 pmrepug neocons and start attacking any one who does not agree with them.
As we approach the election they are getting desperate , just like Shay , Allen and all those of loosing teir seats and cushie priveledges . What no more hanky panky with the pages , no more corruption etc . etc …..they sure feel insecure .
Hey “ARA”, is that you Daryll, from the Rovian f***ing Faith based thread yesterday?
October 13th, 2006 at 6:02 pmAppears your meds have worn off, you were much more peaceable yesterday.
Though still as far out in la la land with regards to making any believable statements….
Here’s a real simple place for you to start with, if you are really interested in research:
Global Warming
will cause
Climate Change
Here’s the officers oath of allegiance
October 13th, 2006 at 6:03 pmI, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.”
I don’t see anywhere in here that it says to listen to your idiot SecDef and keep your mouth shut after you retire, willfully keeping silence when you know his policies are doing grievous damage to the troops you have spent your whole F**king career supporting!
Looks to me like you washed out of the Corps, then tried to make it in the Army and couldn’t handle that either. Like I thought, all the way.
Comment by A+Real+American
Think so, huh? I like tough guys like you with their “ash-and-trash” talk. I find that is usually all there was to them. BTY, what’s your MOS, pantywaist?
October 13th, 2006 at 6:04 pmTypical asstroll, measures the quality of his life with his possessions, starting with wife he ownes.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:04 pm#34……
October 13th, 2006 at 6:07 pm……now we know you are completely and irrevocably false, if your idea of being a successful human being is be determined by your posessions.
Curious, no mention as to who signs your paychecks………….
Wildfire –
October 13th, 2006 at 6:08 pmDaryll was a hoot, wasn’t he? I could almost see him licking his bible.
#36-
October 13th, 2006 at 6:08 pmLook, dipshit. My point is not that global warming is harmless. My point is that HUMAN BEINGS CANNOT CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING. Go back to the other thread, idiot.
Which one of your statements are true, pal:
I AM in the military, dufus.
OR
Actually, I think I’m pretty successful as a human being. I’ve got a beautiful wife, a nice house, a truck, a car, a boat, and a Harley. I’m living the American dream, all thanks to W.
Comment by A+Real+American
I want everyone here to know, that ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, you are a lying ass.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:08 pmARA is “original bootlick” all the way, and by golly, that’s the way he likes it!
October 13th, 2006 at 6:08 pmWay to go, mister Real. Exactly how does it look to you when the only thing you know about someone is the words you’re reading on a page and you automatically come up with stuff to say as if you got hold of his FBI record? I’d love to live in your world for a while. It must be cool not to have to worry about things like logic and knowledge.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:09 pm#38-
Actually, I can’t tell you what my MOS is. It is classified.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:10 pmRumsfeld bent over backwards, thats a good one.
What are the odds this General takes an early retirement?
October 13th, 2006 at 6:11 pm#43-
They are both true, man. You don’t think that someone in the military can’t have a wife, two vehicles, a boat, and a motorcycle?
October 13th, 2006 at 6:13 pm#46! BWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
October 13th, 2006 at 6:13 pmOoops, that secret laugh is classified.
now I’m gonna haveta kill y’all.
A Real Patriot,
October 13th, 2006 at 6:13 pmWhy do you hate ‘liberals’ so much…and what makes you think ppl who disagree with your viewpoint are ‘liberals’ anyway?
Jones is also quoted as cautioning Joint Chiefs Chairman Peter Pace: “You should not be the parrot on the secretary’s shoulder.â€
Pace is a sockpuppet.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:13 pmOK, ARA – Let me guess, you work at Langley.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:15 pmBut can’t tell us, cause it’s classified.
#50-
Sorry. I guess I’ve been listening to El Rushbo a little too much.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:17 pm#52-
Actually, I know a lot about YOU RUcerious. I just found out who you are.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:18 pmCool – why don’t you tell us all.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:21 pmActually, I think I’m pretty successful as a human being. I’ve got a beautiful wife, a nice house, a truck, a car, a boat, and a Harley. I’m living the American dream, all thanks to W.
Comment by A+Real+American — October 13, 2006 @ 6:01 pm
So when your wife leaves you or turns fat, your house depreciates when they build a prison 5 blocks away, your truck, car and boat also depreciate as they always do, and your motorcycle is stolen out of your garage by escaping convicts – then in your estimation, you’ll be worthless?
Smart way to judge yourself Einstein – by things you think you own, but that actually own you. (Try not maintaining them to find out what owns who).
I define myself by how nice I am to other beings (not just human). Unlike your incredibly shallow and materialistic perception of yourself, no one can take my actions or experiences away from me. And I get to thank myself, not war-mongering criminals for my happiness (which is no doubt, more enduring than yours).
I feel sorry for you. Everytime they produce a better or newer model, your self-esteem drops a few points…
October 13th, 2006 at 6:22 pmActually, I can’t tell you what my MOS is. It is classified.
Comment by A+Real+American
You are so full of shit your breath stinks, AssAmerican. You have your gall coming in here pretending to be a military man and attacking a real hero, a general who is honorable and stands for something other than being one of Rummy’s asswipes.
Just so everyone else here knows, MOS is short for Military Occupational Speciality. There is nothing secret about that.
Time for a beer.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:22 pmI can’t. I’ll get booted out of here. But I know. One of the perks of my job.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:23 pmTypical asstroll, measures the quality of his life with his possessions, starting with wife he ownes.
Comment by RUCerious — October 13, 2006 @ 6:04 pm
Touche’!
October 13th, 2006 at 6:24 pmGet a better firewall, RUCerious.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:24 pmYes sir, Mr. Real American, right away sir.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:25 pmActually, I can’t tell you what my MOS is. It is classified.
Comment by A+Real+American — October 13, 2006 @ 6:10 pm
Can there be any doubt that when it comes to the military that ARA is a poser?
October 13th, 2006 at 6:25 pmActually, I know a lot about YOU RUcerious. I just found out who you are.
Comment by A+Real+American — October 13, 2006 @ 6:18 pm
Cool – why don’t you tell us all.
Comment by RUCerious — October 13, 2006 @ 6:21 pmGet a better firewall, RUCerious.
Comment by A+Real+American — October 13, 2006 @ 6:24 pm
Translation: He’s lying. Again
October 13th, 2006 at 6:27 pmActually, I think I’m pretty successful as a human being.
Comment by A+Real+American — October 13, 2006 @ 6:01 pm
Hmm, I’m wondering whether you even qualify to be described as a human being.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:27 pm#59-
I measure my quality of life by how happy I am. I get a lot of enjoyment from my wife, house, two vehicles, boat, and Harley. Therefore, I consider my quality of life to be good. Therefore, I consider myself to be successful. How do you measure your success, unbelievable? By how many bowls you smoked today? How many bottles of liquor you were able to purchase by stretching your welfare check?
October 13th, 2006 at 6:28 pmHmm, I’m wondering whether you even qualify to be described as a human being.
Comment by RealScientist — October 13, 2006 @ 6:27 pm
Considering the judge, I’m going with ‘no’.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:29 pmARA – At least publish my IP address, you can do that, can’t you?
October 13th, 2006 at 6:29 pm#63-
Really? I know who you are too, unbelievable. Unfortunately, being a welfare-case probably won’t get buy you a whole lot of credibility in here, so you obviously don’t want anyone to find out. Oops! Your secret is out! Sorry. Go buy another 40 oz and half-o, you parasite.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:31 pmif ARA was working for some in some top secret field for the military, his dumbass wouldn’t be on this web site. 1. because he would be locked down and 2. because the people that get those jobs work their asses off to get there and once again wouldn’t be wasting their time at this web site.
Only paid Rove trolls come here to support pedophiles and attack career military officers.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:31 pm#67-
Again, any disclosure of confidential information by myself would undoubtably get me kicked out of here. I like this blog too much to let that happen.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:32 pmA Real American = A real liar
You been caught dufus.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:33 pmYou are pathetic
ARA – would you then describe yourself as a hedonist?
October 13th, 2006 at 6:34 pm#69-
It is amazing how naive you are, Pud-boy. Locked down? I don’t think so. It won’t take me long to find out who you are either.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:34 pmA+R+A,
As you are a serial liar and so caught up in your own insecurities that you try to project them on everyone else, I have usually just dismissed you and haven’t given your posts much, if any, credence.
But now you are disrespecting career and highly regarded servicemen (you do not advance to the rank of General by being an ass-kissing “yes” man/woman) because they aren’t being ass-kissing “yes” men/women. And you are threatening another poster and attempting to bully them with this statement of yours:
Actually, I know a lot about YOU RUcerious. I just found out who you are.
You, A+R+A, are a pathetic coward. You do not hold a “classified” position because the FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT rule of having a “classified” position is that you NEVER acknowledge that you hold a “classified” position. You don’t even lie well.
And if you absolutely feel the need to bully someone so as to placate the hole in your soul caused by your cowardice and insecurities, you will discover that when you are confronted, the only action that you will be able to take is to soil yourself and then you will not only be a coward and a liar, but you will be a publicly humiliated fool as well.
Just trying to help you out before you make a mistake that you will not be able to run and hide from.
May peace find you in spite of your ignorance.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:35 pmWhy, do you think we are as shallow as right wingers?
October 13th, 2006 at 6:35 pmLet me get this straight – you can’t prove you know who I am because any attempt to publish it would get you banned.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:35 pmOK, send me an email. You must have my email address.
If I don’t get an email from you in two minutes, you’re a fraud.
Unfortunately, being a welfare-case probably won’t get buy you a whole lot of credibility in here,
Comment by A+Real+American — October 13, 2006 @ 6:31 pm
Actually, Unbelievable has accumulated a whole lot more credibility on this blog than you.
You claim to be in the military and you don’t know what an MOS is, and then you claim your MOS is classified. Please.
Oh, and an IP address is in no way “confidential information”.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:36 pmI measure my quality of life by how happy I am.
Yes, all about yyou. You’ve established that.
I get a lot of enjoyment from my wife, house, two vehicles, boat, and Harley.
Interesting you consider your wife a possession to enjoy. I would bet she sees you as a checking account to enjoy buying her things. It’s usually how these very shallow possessive neocon relationships go.
Therefore, I consider my quality of life to be good. Therefore, I consider myself to be successful.
You’re fooling yourself very well.
And you didn’t answer my question. What happens when you things are no longer yours or enjoyable? Then you’ll consider yourself a failure?
How do you measure your success, unbelievable?
I already told you… Alzheimer’s setting in so soon?
By how many bowls you smoked today? How many bottles of liquor you were able to purchase by stretching your welfare check?
Comment by A+Real+American — October 13, 2006 @ 6:28 pm
Is that supposed to be a serious question – or do you think you’re funny? Well, either way, you’re just ignorant. It’s you neocons who need drugs to get you through life. I get high from watching the high school students in my classes learn about reality and become liberals as a result… And I live in a red state :D
October 13th, 2006 at 6:37 pmAs soon as you do, feel free to send me an e-mail at spudgeboy@gmail.com. You can start looking there.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:37 pmOh and my name links to my blog. You can go there to. Go luck and happy hunting. Dumby.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:39 pmHey I did get an email – here it is
October 13th, 2006 at 6:39 pmFrom:Mr.Solomon ToureEcobank(Abidjan)Republic of cote d,ivoirePhone number:+225-0869-3919 Dear Sir/Madam My name is Mr.SOLOMON TOURE, I work with Accounts Department of(Ecobank)here in Abidjan,Republic of cote d,ivoire. I decided to contact you purely on personal conviction of trust and cofidence that we can co-operate and do a lucrative business for our mutual benefit. The Business is in respect of the sum of $15,410,000 (fifteen million, four hundred and ten thousand USD)Only deposited in my bank which belonged to Mr.Aaron Park a Korean business man who unfortunately lost his life in an auto accident which happened in Abidjan on January 19, 2004 including his wife and only daughter. My bank has made several efforts at contacting the family of Mr.Aaron Park or his relatives, but all have proved abortive. This sum of $15,410,000 has remained unclaimed ever since then and nobody has come forward as his next of kin. The management under the influence of our chairman and members of the board of directors has made an arrangement for the fund to be declared \’UNCLAIMABLE\’ and subsequently turned to the reserve account of the bank. It is against this background of the foregoing, that I decided to contact you for assistance and partnership for you to stand as the next of kin to Mr.Aaron Park.With your permission this fund will be transferred to your private account abroad as the beneficiary and next of kin to the deceased. If you find this proposal acceptable and wish to assist, I expect your urgent response and upon receipt of that,we shall deliberate on the sharing ratio. Let me therefore expect your urgent response through my email address. Please endeavour to include your full name,contact address and private phone number. Please keep this confidential for security reasons.I will give you further details on how to actualise this on receipt of your positive response.You can call me on this number(+225-0869-3919). Thank you and best regards, Yours Faithfully, Mr.SOLOMON TOURE.
Really? I know who you are too, unbelievable. Unfortunately, being a welfare-case probably won’t get buy you a whole lot of credibility in here
Comment by A+Real+American — October 13, 2006 @ 6:31 pm
Obviously you don’t know anything. As usual. You’re even too stupid to see that we see through your lies…
You’re just randomly throwing things out there – and you’re way off base. Not surprised.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:40 pmJeez. You all just don’t have any sense of humor! Of course my MOS isn’t classified! The very notion is ridiculous. There are no classified MOS’s. Of course I have no idea who any of you are. I’m no hacker. However, your paranoid responses to my posts just show how stupid and uninformed you really are. It also shows that you people take yourselves WAY too seriously. Get a grip, really.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:42 pmOk Mr Toure, we know how to have fun. Thanks for playing!
October 13th, 2006 at 6:43 pm#84-
Dude, is that serious? Can I really get that money? If you don’t want to call Mr. Toure, do you mind if I do? That sounds like a really sweet deal.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:46 pmOh, by the way Mr. Toure, apologize to the nice general.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:46 pmYours Faithfully, Mr.SOLOMON TOURE.
0Comment by RUCerious — October 13, 2006 @ 6:39 pm
Funniest thing I’ve read in days!
October 13th, 2006 at 6:47 pmA+R+A,
Now that you have been confronted I see that you immediately go and soil yourself just like I predicted. So, now you prove yourself to be the lying coward who has now been exposed publicly as a fool as well.
I tried to help but your ignorance overwhelmed you. You need to get to work on that immediately.
But, now that the farce that you are has been exposed, I will address you no further.
May peace be with us all.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:47 pmActually, Unbelievable has accumulated a whole lot more credibility on this blog than you.
Comment by Gregor Samsa — October 13, 2006 @ 6:36 pm
Thanks!
Haven’t seen you lately – have the spam filters here finally released their choke hold? :)
October 13th, 2006 at 6:48 pm#88-
You are one very pompous ass, you know that? You most love the smell of your own shit.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:50 pmThe “I was just kidding” defense? How third grade!
October 13th, 2006 at 6:50 pmyour paranoid responses to my posts just show how stupid and uninformed you really are.
Comment by A+Real+American — October 13, 2006 @ 6:42 pm
“Paranoid and uninformed”?
People in this blog called your bluff -they were the ones to point out there is no way you can find out who any of us is, and that there are no classified MOS. That’s not what uninformed people do.
You tried to intimidate, noone backed down, you got smacked and now you pretend it was all a joke -that is paranoid behavior.
Sad, really sad….
October 13th, 2006 at 6:50 pmNight all! Time to go pick up daughter from school!
October 13th, 2006 at 6:51 pmUnbelievable,
Yes, the spam filters have finally stopped attacking me ;-)
I tried to forget about ThinkProgress and tried posting in other blogs, but this place is addictive. My wife is becoming suspicious I might be carrying an online virtual affair… lol
October 13th, 2006 at 6:52 pmYes, because paranoid people always give out info about themselves. I gave you two avenues to try and track who I am not because I am paranoid, because I knew you weren’t who you said you were.
You lie just like all other republicans.
BTW: Pud Boy? Pud as in penis? So, Penis Boy?
What is the republican hang up with homosexuality. At least Spudge_Girl would show you have an interest in females.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:56 pmI tried to forget about ThinkProgress and tried posting in other blogs, but this place is addictive.
Agreed. I tried several others earlier this year and just didn’t like them a fraction as much – even with all the odd stuff going on here lately.
Plus, the regulars here are really well-informed and hilarious people who post great commentary.
Glad you’re back. You’re one of my favorites :)
My wife is becoming suspicious I might be carrying an online virtual affair… lol
Comment by Gregor Samsa — October 13, 2006 @ 6:52 pm
Just let her read anything written by Mighty Aphrodite and you’ll be completely off the hook for that one : )
October 13th, 2006 at 6:59 pm#92-
Again, you people take this blogging stuff WAY to seriously. Do you really think you are changing the world by coming in here and spouting off? Your opinion matters very little. The Blogosphere is nothing. You people aren’t influencing JACK SQUAT. ThinkProgress? I think not.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:59 pmAt least Spudge_Girl would show you have an interest in females.
Comment by SpudgeBoy — October 13, 2006 @ 6:56 pm
Ouch!
October 13th, 2006 at 7:00 pmA-Real-American-A-hole: “I measure my quality of life by how happy I am. I get a lot of enjoyment from my wife, house, two vehicles, boat, and Harley. Therefore, I consider my quality of life to be good. Therefore, I consider myself to be successful.”
No kids, huh? What’s the matter, shooting blanks?
October 13th, 2006 at 7:01 pmA REAL JACKASS
Ha you think libs are the ones with the welfare? I thought we were those “elitist” types who live in Starbucks drinking lattes. Oh by the way explain to me why more people who live in RED states have welfare, food stamps, etc than in BLUE STATES? Come to think of it…. maybe you are an unemployed redneck whose only entertainment is watching your 80 year old cousin strip for you….
October 13th, 2006 at 7:02 pmARA – whether or not he’s a shit-sniffer, ol’humanist just handed your wwe-watching ass to ya. You’ve been shown a fool by just about everyone you tried to take on, you look like a dummy for doing it, and I can only hope you won’t take it out on your poor, naive wife later on….racist, thug, dumbass.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:02 pmYou people aren’t influencing JACK SQUAT. ThinkProgress? I think not.
Comment by A+Real+American — October 13, 2006 @ 6:59 pm
Then why are you here trying to tell us we’re not influencting anything? If we weren’t, you wouldn’t need to counter our ‘insignificant’ comments, would you?
No, you are here because your party is on the way out.
10,000 emails to Chrissy-boy off this site is pretty irrefutable proof that we ARE making an impact and that that upsets your so-called happy life (hint: happy people don’t need to insult others to feel better about themselves.)
October 13th, 2006 at 7:03 pm#99-
My wife only likes to have anal sex, so we can’t have any children. Pity.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:05 pmWhat’s the matter, shooting blanks?
Comment by Bluedog49 — October 13, 2006 @ 7:01 pm
Now that was funny :)
October 13th, 2006 at 7:05 pmUnbelievable nice to see you back
AND KICKIN SOME TROLL ARSE TOO!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2006 at 7:06 pmARA,
October 13th, 2006 at 7:07 pmYou are right again. ‘This dern innernets not gonna change notin’…lol
Real American A-hole: Every red state except two take more money from our federal government than they give back in taxes. Therefore most red states are, technically, welfare states. Big blue states like New York and California give far more to the federal government than they get back.
In addition, red states feature higher infant mortality rates, lower student test scores, more un-wed mothers and more cases of child abuse per capita.
Wouldn’t want any facts to get in the way of a good argument, but maybe these are things you should consider before you accuse liberals of being habitually on welfare.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:07 pmwatching your 80 year old cousin strip for you….
Comment by NewProg — October 13, 2006 @ 7:02 pm
Damn, where is Zookeeper with those brillopads when you need them? I could use two… boxes.
:)
October 13th, 2006 at 7:08 pm103: So your “wife” only likes to have anal sex…. did you know that this practice is illegal in some states. Maybe you better make sure you’re not a lawbreaker. You know, the last time I heard someone say that, his “wife” turned out to be a guy… I’m just sayin’…
October 13th, 2006 at 7:09 pmMy wife only likes to have anal sex, so we can’t have any children. Pity.
Comment by A+Real+American — October 13, 2006 @ 7:05 pm
Translation: He’s gay.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:09 pmUnbelievable nice to see you back
AND KICKIN SOME TROLL ARSE TOO!!!!!!!
Comment by NewProg — October 13, 2006 @ 7:06 pm
Howdy!
And this troll has a lot o’ arse to kick. Probably why it isn’t aware that it’s being kicked…
October 13th, 2006 at 7:11 pmBluedog you handed ARA his ass in a hat!!!!!!!!!
Good for you. Standing up to these dumb ass trolls is fun!!!!
ARA you ass rape your wife at night?
I thought you guys were all against the whole sodomy thing….
October 13th, 2006 at 7:11 pm#110-
No, man. She just prefers it up the ole’ poop shoot, liberal Blue-stater style.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:12 pmUNBELIEVABLE
ROTFLMAO
damn that post was frickin hillarious!!!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2006 at 7:12 pm#112-
Sodomy is just fine, as long as it is carried out as God intended: between a man and woman.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:13 pmReal American, you should read David Brock’s “Blinded by the Right.” He writes a lot about how many self-loathing closeted gays there are in the modern conservative movement. It’s an interesting phenomenon. Evidently, self-loathing, closeted gays are attracted to authoritarianism in a rather unhealthy way. Look into it. It may speak to you.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:14 pmMy wife only likes to have anal sex, so we can’t have any children. Pity.
Comment by A+Real+American Ass
Does she use a strap-on, or vibrator?
October 13th, 2006 at 7:14 pmlol unbelievable
I bet ARA is cryin its little troll eyes out and lookin for the light. Come out of yer cave little troll I promise you will not be harmed…
October 13th, 2006 at 7:14 pmYou’re one of my favorites :)
Comment by unbelievable — October 13, 2006 @ 6:59 pm
::blush::
Now I really will keep wifey away from blog ;-)
October 13th, 2006 at 7:16 pmBluedog it is no use
ARA is lost in the world of BIBLELAND where gays, liberals, and Elvis are evil and must be destroyed. I wish his wife would be some sense into him. Oh wait… she is a blow up doll!
October 13th, 2006 at 7:16 pmReal American, I think you’ve got your scripture wrong. If you look to Leviticus, you will find that sodomy is always evil and should be punished with death by stoning no matter who has engaged in it.
Let me give you some advice: don’t mention this little habit of yours to the rest of the flock. It might not go too well.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:17 pmBARFLY
ROTFLMAO
Bravo Barfly, that is a MEGA THIRD DEGREE BURN!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2006 at 7:18 pmI hope A+Real(Fraud)American never procreates, his children will surely have warped values, and we’ll have another Columbine, or Amish School incident when his kid doesn’t get that “____” his daddy promised him, so he’ll take it out by brorrowing one of his dads guns and taking it to school and blowing away some kids. Maybe we’ll be lucky and ARA will be lucky and his Idol Cheny will invite him hunting and show some true republican values, and gun control.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:18 pmShe just prefers it up the ole’ poop shoot, liberal Blue-stater style.
Comment by A+Real+American — October 13, 2006 @ 7:12 pm
No, it’s just you closeted neocons who can’t have a normal relationship with a vagina.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:19 pmThanks, New Prog. He left himself WIDE open!
October 13th, 2006 at 7:19 pmThe Bush administration supports the troops and their commanders…. but only if the troops and their commanders support the Bush administration.
Hate to break it to you Bush cultists, but that is arguably treason.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:20 pmARA you dont read the bible do you…?
Once you get your head out of your ass(or your blowup dolls…) youll realize that Leviticus also says that eating pork and chicken is a sin…
Do you like bacon MR.REALASSHOLE????
October 13th, 2006 at 7:20 pmShe just prefers it up the ole’ poop shoot, liberal Blue-stater style.
Comment by A+Real+American — October 13, 2006 @ 7:12 pm
Says the guy who didn’t want to give away too much “confidential information”.
Whatever happened to those good old traditional family values?
Better call Mr. Toure. Don’t forget to wire him the $15,000 (or whatever amount he asks) in “seed capital” to “jump start” the transaction.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:20 pmNow I really will keep wifey away from blog ;-)
Comment by Gregor Samsa — October 13, 2006 @ 7:16 pm
: )
October 13th, 2006 at 7:21 pmThe word sodomy comes form the city God destroyed because they were having anal and oral sex.
If you believe in those myths.
Be careful, you might end up being assaulted.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:21 pmARA, ARA where are you?
Hey ARA get yer 3 cm penis out of that cat!!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2006 at 7:22 pmHey I did get an email – here it is
From:Mr.Solomon ToureEcobank(Abidjan)Republic of cote d,ivoirePhone
Comment by RUCerious — October 13, 2006 @ 6:39 pm
ROTFLMAO
October 13th, 2006 at 7:22 pmNewProg,
Elvis?
October 13th, 2006 at 7:23 pmUnbelievable
I remember in the 50’s when the dumb ass fundies wouldn’t allow Elvis to be shown below the waste. That is what I read at least…
October 13th, 2006 at 7:27 pmOh yes – Elvis the Pelvis… Good one!
October 13th, 2006 at 7:30 pmNice thread here, here’s what the general would say.
“Put that thing down, move slowly away, and let me see your hands at all times”
October 13th, 2006 at 7:32 pmSome of my favorite highlights from tonights thread:
The General is cool, don’t mess with him.
Rumsfeld is a total ass.
Pace is a sockpuppet.
Neo-cons can’t handle regular sex which would involve a vagina
Get your tiny wee-wee out of the cat.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:40 pm# 81 Comment by RUCerious
LMAO!
October 13th, 2006 at 7:50 pmI think not.
Comment by A+Real+American
Exactly.
October 13th, 2006 at 7:53 pmThe right-wingers and Bush administration keep saying that they’ll “listen to the generals”. Well, ho come when the generals say that Iraq is a “debacle” or is not handled properly by the BA, they dismiss them as “closet Democrats” and “unprofessional”? Doesn’t the MSM see this?
Meanwhile, the Abramoff scandal is in the news again http://www.polibuzz.blogspot.com with Bob Ney pleadnig guilty. I hope it’s not downhill from here…
October 13th, 2006 at 8:05 pmWWJS?
Who Would Jesus Smear?
-GSD
October 13th, 2006 at 8:14 pmGSD
Jesus would smear dumbasses like ARA
October 13th, 2006 at 8:26 pmSo typical of the rats in the White House — smear everyone and anyone who doesn’t bow to them.
October 13th, 2006 at 8:29 pmIraq is degenerating rapidly now – in addition to Jones, the Brits have said as much and that they will get out soon, James Baker has declared that victory is impossible and recommends dealing with the insurgents or to “redeploy and contain,” the world opinion is that Iraq a disaster, most news reporters do not leave the green zone.
Failure is staring them in the face and they are still in denial.
Yep Marie
You are completely right. The trolls can not make a case for themselves so they just smear everyone else. This nov will be the day justice is brought back to Congress. BUSH your reign off terror is over…
October 13th, 2006 at 8:33 pmFailure is staring them in the face and they are still in denial.
Comment by Marie — October 13, 2006 @ 8:29 pm
With all due respect, please allow me to correct your post:
“They have been, are still, and will always be in denial.”
There, much better ;-)
October 13th, 2006 at 8:36 pmhey Greg
Where did everyone go? No one is threadin anymore?
Gosh darn it I leave for a second (to MMFA) and suddenly everyone stops posting….
October 13th, 2006 at 8:39 pmThanks, Gregor – are, were and always will be so. :)
October 13th, 2006 at 9:08 pmYou too, New prog.
I have been reading more and more about the Dems taking BOTH houses in Nov. I almost hate to say it for fear of jinxing it, but I am doing all I can to help make it happen. Have you seen the latest polls on DailyKos? So many races are so very close, but encouraging.
I’ll be back…Dinner calls…
October 13th, 2006 at 9:38 pmReading through the insults and expectations of his fellow soldiers, ARA would like them to be more like those under orders of Kim Jung Il.
Loyalty above all; no expression of rational thought.
I always believed that our military were proud to fight for our Constitution and country — you know, the right to speak one’s opinion.
Well, I guess not all of them.
October 13th, 2006 at 9:53 pmRumsfelds ass needs to be investigated. Between that photo with Sadaam,(when he was seeing to it that Sadaam had the “weapons” he needed to fight Iran) and the fact that a company he was director of, sold materials that help to forward the nuclear program N. Korea is now in possession of.
October 13th, 2006 at 9:56 pmHis two-faced activities need to be looked into.
Ahhhhh, nobody got my little joke from #130.
October 13th, 2006 at 10:03 pmI find it interesting that some fault Gen. Jones for his lack of “loyalty.”
He swore to protect, defend and uphold the U.S. Constitution. I think he has his priorities right. I wish I could say the same for most of the elected officials in the GOP, who seem to place partisan politics above every other consideration.
Bllindly following a man who has no understanding of, and no respect for, basic constitutional rights is hardly something to honor. Loyalty in the service of ignorance and greed is a farce.
October 13th, 2006 at 10:03 pmSpudger []
October 13th, 2006 at 10:06 pmOuch. Way over my head the first pass.
That was quite an afternoon, wasn’t it.
I was drudging away at documenting a program and found the break refreshingly amusing.
I think the General can handle himself.
Not in the way that paid troll would handle himself, of course. Almost these entire thread has been taken over by that trolls sickness!
unbelievable,
October 13th, 2006 at 10:15 pmSorry, I’m all out of brillo pads, just imagining Condi and Chris Wallace “together.” *shudder* One heavy duty wire brush is on its way.
Evenin, Zooey ~
October 13th, 2006 at 10:22 pmDid you ever see a troll unhinge like ARA, I mean Mr. Toure?
RUCerious,
That dude was whacked (as Jack Abramoff and friends would call him)
October 13th, 2006 at 10:28 pmClassified MOS >>ROFLMAO!!!!~~
October 13th, 2006 at 10:31 pmHello RUCerious,
Sadly, yes I have seen a troll unhinge like that one. If we’re lucky, it’s the same one in disguise, and there aren’t two of them.
At least when I hijack a thread — it’s fun.
October 13th, 2006 at 10:37 pmAh RU, don’t laugh! ARA just didn’t want to have to track us all down and kill us, for knowing his special rank.
I didn’t know they had a short bus for Special Ops.
October 13th, 2006 at 10:38 pmSince he said that he was E5, we know that he was an enlisted guy, not a snot nose butter bar. He was a Sgt. So, we can call him Sgt. Short Bus!
October 13th, 2006 at 10:46 pmIs the General still employed?
October 13th, 2006 at 10:47 pmAlright Spudge,
I guess I get the joke in 130, that real american hero guy already assaults himself with duct tape and hamsters.
October 13th, 2006 at 10:49 pm#130
Like a salt pillar.
The reason I say that is my republican parents would never partake in anal sex. They believe they would actually turn into pillars of salt.
Christian vs fake Christian.
October 13th, 2006 at 10:54 pmARA, tell me who I am you dipshit. All of my deepest, darkest secrets.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:05 pm..that real american hero guy already assaults himself with duct tape and hamsters.
Comment by ForTruth
Um, how would anybody do that? :-D
October 13th, 2006 at 11:07 pmyou dumb b@st@rds. i’ve been F’ing with you. i’m a proud republican and your all a bunch of whiny @sses.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:10 pm#113 Jealous bitch.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:13 pmUm, how would anybody do that? :-D
Comment by Zooey
I can’t explain it in a public place.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:15 pmI can’t explain it in a public place.
Comment by ForTruth
A true gentleman…
October 13th, 2006 at 11:21 pm#166 You effing moron. We know JR is not one of your kind.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:22 pmJPark,
Well, for one, Jay Randal can spell his name correctly…
October 13th, 2006 at 11:29 pm#171 LOL, I didn’t notice that.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:32 pmI didn’t notice the mispelling of Jay Randall either, its probably our real american hero
October 13th, 2006 at 11:34 pmIf you equate our military and diplomacy to Teflon pans, Rummy, W, Condi and Karl are using case hardened steel utensils to flip the pancakes and scrambled eggs.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:44 pmForTruth – Uh Oh, he knows where we live! I’m a scawwed wabbit!
October 13th, 2006 at 11:45 pmSo spudger, would one be a pillar of salt and the other a pillar of Ms Dash?
#175 I am thinking he has trouble finding his own home. Damn vodka.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:49 pmYeah he knows where we live alright, in his head.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:56 pmRUSH: Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, I asked, “Where is the Drive-By Media on the Harry Reid story?” I was pointed to a blog called the Strata-Sphere (it’s put together by a guy named A. J. Strata, hence the name Strata-Sphere) and I printed out 18 pages. These 18 pages are of Harry Reid land deals in Nevada and Arizona. I don’t know when the guy has had time to be a senator. This is… I’m holding them up here for those of you watching (glad you’re with us) on the Dittocam. This stuff, it goes on and on and on, these are official records, somebody just went to the website, looked the stuff up, sale prices, who owned what, who lent what, who borrowed what, and this is just the real estate deals. It’s inconceivable that this is it.
I wonder what else the guy is into. It’s mind-boggling here, and of course the lead item here at the Strata-Sphere blog is the Reid kickbacks. “Folks, head to the comments section where long time reader SBD is working his usual magic and posting multiple real estate transactions with one Harry Reid regarding properties in NV and buyers/sellers from all over (including my home town of McLean VA). I wonder how many of these reports made it accurately into the public record?” And then somebody, “hey nancy – start with your swamp before you think about draining ours.” This is — really, folks, it is very serious, and now people are beginning to look into whether — this came up on this program yesterday. We’re on the cutting edge, societal evolution.
People are beginning to wonder whether Reid’s son Rory was on the county commission when these zoning changes took place, and if he was on the commission, did he recuse himself. Some of the people on the commission are long-time Harry Reid flunkies anyway. We’ve learned that much. But some of these votes they’re wondering if Rory Reid, Harry Reid’s son, recused himself or just went ahead and voted. This isn’t known. But surely, ladies and gentlemen, the Drive-By Media will look into all of this, right? Surely they will. The Drive-By Media — in fact, let’s go to last night’s World News Tonight, and let’s see what our old buddy Brian Ross was busy investigating while the Dingy Harry scandal was unfolding.
ROSS: Twenty three-year-old Marine Sergeant Heather Cerveny was sent to Guantanamo Bay in late September as a legal aid to a Marine lawyer representing a detainee. In a sworn affidavit filed with the Pentagon inspector general, Cerveny says she met several Navy prison guards at an on-base club where, over drinks —
RUSH: Stop the tape. Has anybody heard the name Harry Reid here yet in Brian Ross’s report? What are we getting here? We’re getting another story about how unfortunate people are treated at Club Gitmo. I’ve been listening for Harry Reid. Here’s the rest of it.
ROSS: In detail, harsh physical abuse of the detainees.
RUSH: Yeah.
CERVENY: The one sailor specifically said, “I took the detainee by the head and smashed his head into the cell door.” Other ones specifically saying, “You know, today, that guy was annoying me, you know, I smacked him in the head.”
ROSS: The new allegations come as the military and the White House have insisted any problems at Guantanamo in the treatment of detainees have long since been fixed.
RUSH: And there you have it, Brian Ross, our buddy from ABC, on the case, ladies and gentlemen, following up a story at Club Gitmo about which nobody’s heard anything. Breaking news, from the investigative unit of ABC on Club Gitmo! Meanwhile, Dingy Harry was out in Nevada yesterday, and he said this about collecting $1.1 million on a land deal. Remember this land deal, there’s something strange about this. He’s in league with a guy named Jay Brown who, according to all kinds of documentation, has been investigated by the feds for suspicious activity with organized crime and so forth. Dingy Harry buys a plot of land for $400,000 and sells it back for the identical figure without even any interest accrual or inflation accrual. Now, who does that? And then six years later, after selling it back for 400 grand, the property flips, Dingy Harry turns it into 175% profit that. That outdoes anything ExxonMobil has ever done: $1.1 million — and he was commenting on this yesterday. He’s off mike in this sound bite. Let’s listen to it, and if it’s hard to understand, I will translate, because I have the transcript.
REID: As we speak we’re checking it out, if there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.
RUSH: Okay. “As we speak, we’re checking it out,” Dingy Harry said. “If there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.” That’s what’s suspicious about this. Who sells something that has obviously escalated in value for the same price you bought it at without even inflating it for the inflation value of money, or the inflation rise in money or any kind of interest. Now, look how willing he is to pay a fine, ladies and gentlemen — and he’s still looking into it. “We’re checking it out.” Meanwhile, the calls for Denny Hastert and Republicans to resign over the Foley case get louder and louder and louder. Meanwhile, all the news about the Foley case keeps expanding and expanding and expanding. People are publishing private e-mails between Foley and Governor Jeb Bush that have nothing to do with anything, trying to keep that story alive.
Listen to this. This is so sweet! It is a Reuters story: “Media outlets are finding it harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover without losing scoops to blogs and other competitors, the editor of online magazine Slate said yesterday.” This is Jacob Weisberg at a Reuters Newsmaker event. He said, “I very much agree that we need to have standards but I think in practical terms we don’t control what people find out anymore.” (laughing) Oh, yes! That, ladies and gentlemen, is it in a nutshell, the end of the Drive-By Media, and they know it. “We don’t control what people find out anymore.” From that may we presume, assume, infer that at one time they know they “controlled what people found out,” meaning you. Now the lid’s blown, and they have lost control, and what a topic. Harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover. Well, now, what politician’s privacy do you want to protect? Dingy Harry’s, maybe? Democrat politicians? Is that who it is, the privacy you’re concerned about? And stars? Why, who would those stars be? What a topic.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: A question, ladies and gentlemen. If it were Bill Frist about whom kickbacks and shady land deals had been exposed, do you think there would be any interest in it in the Drive-By Media and do you think Democrats throughout the Senate would be demanding full disclosure and a full investigation? Yes. Do you hear any Republicans demanding anything against Dingy Harry? No. Do you hear of the Drive-By Media? You see stories out there. AP has a follow-up today, and I saw a little bit on MSNBC this morning, but it was almost like they did it in a perfunctory fashion. They couldn’t wait to get back to Foley, and they’re still talking about the Cory Lidle airplane accident and the ensuing investigation.
There are some media outlets out there touching on this. The Philadelphia Inquirer in an editorial today titled, “Practice What You Preach — That’s how this case looks, too. Unless Reid comes up with a better explanation for this lack of disclosure, Democrats should not keep him as their leader in the new Congress in 2007.” That’s the Philadelphia Inquirer. Here is the Washington Post. “for Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) is that he was sloppy about financial disclosure rules in accounting for a real estate deal on which he made a $700,000 profit.” That’s 175% more than ExxonMobil. “The more unattractive case is that the senator’s inaccurate description of the investment was an effort to disguise his partnership with a Las Vegas lawyer who’s never been charged with wrongdoing but whose name has surfaced in federal investigations involving organized crime, casinos and political bribery since the 1980s… It’s true — under the inadequate financial disclosure rules — that even if Mr. Reid had listed the newly formed corporation, Patrick Lane LLC, that wouldn’t have by itself demonstrated Mr. Brown’s involvement. Nonetheless, that Mr. Reid no longer owned the land, but instead had sold it for an interest in the Patrick Lane corporation, was not some mere ‘technical change,’ as the senator would like to brush it off. It’s an essential element of financial disclosure rules, the purpose of which is to know how and with whom public officials are financially entwined.”
Hey, Post people? Fred Hyatt, editorial page. Go to Strata-Sphere.com, if you can bear to look at a conservative blog and just take a look at the 18 printed pages. When you look at it, there’s nothing in them that rings suspicious. It’s just public records of sales, loans, and so forth involving Dingy Harry and his wife, but for crying out loud, what does this guy make? You know, I look at everything from — and a lot of other people do, too, and it’s a mistake to do this — but I look at these guys, what does a senator make, $165,200 (leaders make $180,100). We know that the Democratic side of the Senate is populated with considerable wealth. More millionaires, multimillionaires on the Democrat side than on the Republican side and that’s always struck me odd when the Democrats say that they have an understanding with the common man. By the way, you common people know who you are, and the Democrats, they’re able to “relate” to you
They understand. I’m going to just tell all you common people out there, you couldn’t get close to accomplishing what Dingy Harry has accomplished, apparently over and over and over and over again. If the ethics committee really digs deep into this, this investigation is going to going on for a long, long time. Now, why do you suppose the Washington Post and the Philadelphia Inquirer and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution are editorializing on this and suggesting that Dingy Harry has a lot of explaining to do? I mean, why are they not ignoring it? Why are they not sweeping it under the rug? I don’t want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but not too many people read the editorials. They read op-eds, but there aren’t too many people that read the editorials in a newspaper.
They’re boring. They’re literally boring. They’re the worst written aspect of the newspaper. So it’s a way to get it in the paper without getting it in the paper. But when they do write these editorials they’re pretty cutting to Dingy Harry. And I think that there’s a bit of a concern on some of these papers’ parts, “This is just too close to the election for this to come out. If this guy is a problem, we’ve gotta do something about it, we’ve gotta make sure that we aren’t appearing to sweep it under the rug here at our paper,” and so forth and so on. I’m just hazarding a guess. What does the Journal-Constitution say? Well… “Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid would be well advised to stop thundering about corruption in the Republican ranks, or crying cover-up over the GOP’s failure to promptly and appropriately deal with Mark Foley.
“Reid faces too many questions about his own behavior to crusade about the misdeeds of others. Currently he’s trying to explain a land deal in Nevada on which he made a pile of money and which may not have been properly disclosed. When the property was sold in 2004, it belonged to a company formed with a long-time friend and included a parcel that once had belonged to Harry Reid. Despite having transferred his parcel to the company, for the same amount of loot that he bought it for, the Nevada Democrat continued to report in Senate Democrats he still owned it personally. That’s a breach of Senate disclosure rules, according to the AP, which first reported the transaction details.” Now, that is pretty stunning. We’ve covered this.
He continued to report in Senate documents he still owned it personally. He wants to say, “Well, it’s an oversight. I’ll go and pay a fine. I’ll fix it.” When you look at the number of land deals that Dingy Harry is involved in, you find out this is a full-time involvement in it he has. This is not something going on in the ten or 20% of his day that he doesn’t have to do Senate business or what have you, or party business. When you look at these documents — we’ll link to it at RushLimbaugh.com. We’ll put it up there so you can look at it yourself. This is an ongoing enterprise, and these kinds of things people do not do hands off with no attention being paid and just verbal agreements, “Oh, yeah, you go ahead and take this 400 grand. I’ll give it back to you. I’ll forget that I sold it to you. I’ll pretend I still own it, then you can pay me.” It’s hard to believe.
“Reid is now considering whether he should amend his disclosure statement. Two months ago the Los Angeles Times reported that Reid had smoothed the way for a campaign contributor and friend to develop a huge tract of land northeast of Las Vegas. Reid tried twice before he was successful to get a utility right-of-way moved from a proposed development site on to public land.” By the way, at RushLimbaugh.com there’s a LA Times story from the nineties that we dug up a long time ago that is amazingly detailed and illustrative of the workings of the Dingy Harry family in Las Vegas and how they’re all intertwined, and nobody cared about that when it came out, either, but we’ve got it permanently linked in our Essential Stack of Stuff. We’ve got it highlighted on the front page so that you can access it as well.
“The first effort of Harry Reid’s stall because of objections from the Bureau of Land Management and others that the developer wasn’t going to pay for anything for a deal that would greatly increase the value of his development site. Eventually, though, it was determined that the developer should pay the federal government more than $10 million. Then there are the free boxing tickets that Reid took from the Nevada Athletic Commission. The panel was hoping to block formation of a national boxing commission. Reid favored one. Only after the AP reported this summer that Reid got the expensive tickets did Reid decide he no longer accept such gifts. Unfortunately, Reid’s ethics meter only seems to work when it’s too late.” This was written by David McNaughton for the editorial board. They actually signed this editorial: David McNaughton for the Atlanta Journal and Constitution — and then Jed Babbin wants to know why is it that none of the major TV networks or newspapers have managed to pay attention to the biggest real scandal of this season, and that is Dingy Harry Reid. Be calm, ladies and gentlemen. Be cool. At some point they’ll not be able to avoid this.
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RUSH: Not to make a big deal out of this, ladies and gentlemen, but falsifying the report as Dingy Harry Greed apparently did is a federal crime, under Title 18, United States Code section 1001. It’s a false statement for which Reid could be sent to jail, according to the statute. Now, as Jed Babbin says, “If you’re looking for this on tonight’s network news or on the front page of tomorrow’s New York Times next to the latest Foley reveal, you won’t find it.” MSNBC, as I said, did a little blurb on this today, this morning in addition to the original AP story here, and let me just highlight some things that are relatively new.
“Other parts of the deal such as the informal handling of property taxes raise questions about possible gifts or income reportable to Congress and the IRS, ethics experts said. Reid and his wife Landra personally signed the deed, selling their full interest in the property to this Jay Brown’s company, Patrick Lane, LLC, for the same $400,000 they paid in 1998.” Now, you buy something for 400 grand in 1998, you sell it back four years later for the same amount of money? No inflation even factored in, much less interest? Come on! Who does this? (interruption) Real estate wasn’t booming? (laughing) Real estate wasn’t booming. What was this? This was at the height of the Clinton economic nineties, Mr. Snerdley! Don’t tell me real estate wasn’t booming.
Now, despite the sale, Dingy Harry “continued to report on his public ethics reports that he personally owned the land until it was sold again in 2004.” So it was six years. He claimed he owned it for six years when he didn’t. “His disclosure forms to Congress don’t mention an interest in Patrick Lane or the company’s role in the ‘04 sale. Reid isn’t listed anywhere on Patrick Lane’s corporate filings with Nevada even though the land he sold accounted for three-quarters of the company’s assets. Brown is listed as the company’s manager. Reid’s office said Nevada law didn’t require Dingy Harry to be mentioned in the filings.
“Ethics experts say such informality raises questions about whether any of Jay Brown’s tax payments amounted to a benefit for Reid. It might end up having been a gift. For years, Reid also had been encouraging the interior department to make land swaps on behalf of Del Webb, where one of his former aides worked.” We’ve been through all of this. Here’s the rezoning aspect. This is cool. “Clark County intended for the property that Reid owned to be used solely for new housing. Just days before the Harry Reid sold the parcels to Brown’s company, Brown sought permission in May of 2001 to rezone the property so a shopping center could be built. Career zoning officials objected saying the request was inconsistent with Clark County’s master development plan.
“The town board in Spring Valley where Reid’s property was located also voted 4-1 to reject the rezoning, but Jay Brown persisted. The Clark County zoning board followed by the Clark County commission voted to overrule the recommendation and approve commercial zoning so the shopping center could be built. Such votes were common at the time. Before the approval in September 2001, Brown’s consultant told commissioners that Reid was involved. Mr. Brown’s partners: ‘Harry Reid, I think we’ve people in this community you can trust to go forward put a quality project before you.’” Harry’s in on this; no need to sweat it! So now people are wondering whether Dingy Harry’s son Rory had anything to do with any of these votes. Andrew in Clifton, New Jersey, I’m glad you called. Welcome. You’re first on Open Line Friday, and welcome.
CALLER: What an honor to speak to you, Rush.
RUSH: Thank you, sir. You bet.
CALLER: I wanted to know why the Republican leaders haven’t asked for the resignation of Harry Reid? We’re six weeks out of an election. The Democrats are calling for Hastert’s resignation. They’re basically building up a lot of political clout against this man, and I want to know where the Republicans are on this.
RUSH: Well, I’ll answer this again. Number one: The Republicans don’t have to say anything because we’re doing their job for them here. Number two, it’s just not in them. They just don’t operate this way. You could ask this about virtually everything. When the whole Foley thing came, where were they there? They were running around like scared dogs with their tails between their legs or their other body orifices.
CALLER: Then they deserve to lose then if they’re not going to get up and —
RUSH: No, no, no! WE don’t deserve to lose. Screw these guys! WE don’t deserve to lose! WE don’t deserve to have Democrats running this country at this point in our nation’s history. That’s not what this is about. Let me tell you something. There’s a USA Today columnist, and I forget his name right now. There’s a columnist at USA Today who heard me say that everybody’s looking at this the wrong way. The media has got everybody focused on: “Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose the House? Will Republicans lose the Senate?” and I said in a brilliant monolog earlier this week, “What if the Democrats lose? If they can’t win in this kind of climate and environment, they don’t even deserve to be a political party.
And this guy picked up on it, thinks I have a point, starts examining whether or not the Democrats have even earned the right to govern. He’s a media guy. He begrudgingly acknowledges that I have a point. This whole thing needs to be turned around in terms of looking at the context. Why is it that the reporting day in and day out is always focused on Republicans lose, Republicans lose the House, Republicans lose the Senate. We really don’t hear a whole lot of focus on the Democrats doing this to win back the Senate, the Democrats doing this to win back the House. What we hear are never ending stories about how people hate Republicans, and we are never told that the people of this country have anything other than total adoration and love for Democrats.
If you’re to believe the mainstream press, there isn’t one Democrat who’s going to get one negative vote, who’s going to lose an election in this race. There isn’t one American who has any gripe with any Democrat. All the gripes are aimed at Republicans. Well, we know that’s BS. There are 20 million of us, and we have gripes with Democrats. We’re being totally ignored in this context. So, you know, when you say the Republicans deserve to lose, we don’t deserve to lose is the way to look at this. We certainly don’t deserve to have this nation governed by lightweights like Nancy Pelosi and dangerous people like Chuck Rangel who will raise anybody’s taxes faster than he can go to the bathroom after winning the race. These guys, they portend policies that will reverse very nice economic directions that the country is headed in. Anyway, why don’t the Republicans come up? Who knows? They don’t want to be attacked themselves. Maybe they’ve got things they’re hiding. Who the hell knows? All I know is, they don’t ever do it.
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October 14th, 2006 at 12:02 amBones 2. Such a long post…and so pointless.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:05 amYou are a tool, Bones Two.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:06 amI move to open up Parlementary procedure, and make a motion to delete BonesTwo, #178.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:14 amI second the motion…
October 14th, 2006 at 12:15 amAll in favor…..say aye
October 14th, 2006 at 12:17 amAYE
October 14th, 2006 at 12:18 amAye
October 14th, 2006 at 12:18 amAye!
October 14th, 2006 at 12:23 amaye
October 14th, 2006 at 12:23 amdon’t be scared, if you read that post you may learn something.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:24 amHey bones, I just want to be sure. You’re quoting Rush Limbaugh? Okay, got it. How many years of service did Rush Limbaugh do? And General Jones? You still want to quote Rush Limbaugh? You were picked on as a kid weren’t you?
October 14th, 2006 at 12:25 amRUSH: Yesterday, ladies and gentlemen, I asked, “Where is the Drive-By Media on the Harry Reid story?†I was pointed to a blog called the Strata-Sphere (it’s put together by a guy named A. J. Strata, hence the name Strata-Sphere) and I printed out 18 pages. These 18 pages are of Harry Reid land deals in Nevada and Arizona. I don’t know when the guy has had time to be a senator. This is… I’m holding them up here for those of you watching (glad you’re with us) on the Dittocam. This stuff, it goes on and on and on, these are official records, somebody just went to the website, looked the stuff up, sale prices, who owned what, who lent what, who borrowed what, and this is just the real estate deals. It’s inconceivable that this is it.
I wonder what else the guy is into. It’s mind-boggling here, and of course the lead item here at the Strata-Sphere blog is the Reid kickbacks. “Folks, head to the comments section where long time reader SBD is working his usual magic and posting multiple real estate transactions with one Harry Reid regarding properties in NV and buyers/sellers from all over (including my home town of McLean VA). I wonder how many of these reports made it accurately into the public record?†And then somebody, “hey nancy – start with your swamp before you think about draining ours.†This is — really, folks, it is very serious, and now people are beginning to look into whether — this came up on this program yesterday. We’re on the cutting edge, societal evolution.
People are beginning to wonder whether Reid’s son Rory was on the county commission when these zoning changes took place, and if he was on the commission, did he recuse himself. Some of the people on the commission are long-time Harry Reid flunkies anyway. We’ve learned that much. But some of these votes they’re wondering if Rory Reid, Harry Reid’s son, recused himself or just went ahead and voted. This isn’t known. But surely, ladies and gentlemen, the Drive-By Media will look into all of this, right? Surely they will. The Drive-By Media — in fact, let’s go to last night’s World News Tonight, and let’s see what our old buddy Brian Ross was busy investigating while the Dingy Harry scandal was unfolding.
ROSS: Twenty three-year-old Marine Sergeant Heather Cerveny was sent to Guantanamo Bay in late September as a legal aid to a Marine lawyer representing a detainee. In a sworn affidavit filed with the Pentagon inspector general, Cerveny says she met several Navy prison guards at an on-base club where, over drinks —
RUSH: Stop the tape. Has anybody heard the name Harry Reid here yet in Brian Ross’s report? What are we getting here? We’re getting another story about how unfortunate people are treated at Club Gitmo. I’ve been listening for Harry Reid. Here’s the rest of it.
ROSS: In detail, harsh physical abuse of the detainees.
RUSH: Yeah.
CERVENY: The one sailor specifically said, “I took the detainee by the head and smashed his head into the cell door.†Other ones specifically saying, “You know, today, that guy was annoying me, you know, I smacked him in the head.â€
ROSS: The new allegations come as the military and the White House have insisted any problems at Guantanamo in the treatment of detainees have long since been fixed.
RUSH: And there you have it, Brian Ross, our buddy from ABC, on the case, ladies and gentlemen, following up a story at Club Gitmo about which nobody’s heard anything. Breaking news, from the investigative unit of ABC on Club Gitmo! Meanwhile, Dingy Harry was out in Nevada yesterday, and he said this about collecting $1.1 million on a land deal. Remember this land deal, there’s something strange about this. He’s in league with a guy named Jay Brown who, according to all kinds of documentation, has been investigated by the feds for suspicious activity with organized crime and so forth. Dingy Harry buys a plot of land for $400,000 and sells it back for the identical figure without even any interest accrual or inflation accrual. Now, who does that? And then six years later, after selling it back for 400 grand, the property flips, Dingy Harry turns it into 175% profit that. That outdoes anything ExxonMobil has ever done: $1.1 million — and he was commenting on this yesterday. He’s off mike in this sound bite. Let’s listen to it, and if it’s hard to understand, I will translate, because I have the transcript.
REID: As we speak we’re checking it out, if there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.
RUSH: Okay. “As we speak, we’re checking it out,†Dingy Harry said. “If there needs to be a change, fine, I’d be happy to do that. But remember all the re-numeration was the same. Whether there’s a technical change or not, it’s all the same.†That’s what’s suspicious about this. Who sells something that has obviously escalated in value for the same price you bought it at without even inflating it for the inflation value of money, or the inflation rise in money or any kind of interest. Now, look how willing he is to pay a fine, ladies and gentlemen — and he’s still looking into it. “We’re checking it out.†Meanwhile, the calls for Denny Hastert and Republicans to resign over the Foley case get louder and louder and louder. Meanwhile, all the news about the Foley case keeps expanding and expanding and expanding. People are publishing private e-mails between Foley and Governor Jeb Bush that have nothing to do with anything, trying to keep that story alive.
Listen to this. This is so sweet! It is a Reuters story: “Media outlets are finding it harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover without losing scoops to blogs and other competitors, the editor of online magazine Slate said yesterday.†This is Jacob Weisberg at a Reuters Newsmaker event. He said, “I very much agree that we need to have standards but I think in practical terms we don’t control what people find out anymore.†(laughing) Oh, yes! That, ladies and gentlemen, is it in a nutshell, the end of the Drive-By Media, and they know it. “We don’t control what people find out anymore.†From that may we presume, assume, infer that at one time they know they “controlled what people found out,†meaning you. Now the lid’s blown, and they have lost control, and what a topic. Harder to protect the privacy of the politicians and stars they cover. Well, now, what politician’s privacy do you want to protect? Dingy Harry’s, maybe? Democrat politicians? Is that who it is, the privacy you’re concerned about? And stars? Why, who would those stars be? What a topic.
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RUSH: A question, ladies and gentlemen. If it were Bill Frist about whom kickbacks and shady land deals had been exposed, do you think there would be any interest in it in the Drive-By Media and do you think Democrats throughout the Senate would be demanding full disclosure and a full investigation? Yes. Do you hear any Republicans demanding anything against Dingy Harry? No. Do you hear of the Drive-By Media? You see stories out there. AP has a follow-up today, and I saw a little bit on MSNBC this morning, but it was almost like they did it in a perfunctory fashion. They couldn’t wait to get back to Foley, and they’re still talking about the Cory Lidle airplane accident and the ensuing investigation.
There are some media outlets out there touching on this. The Philadelphia Inquirer in an editorial today titled, “Practice What You Preach — That’s how this case looks, too. Unless Reid comes up with a better explanation for this lack of disclosure, Democrats should not keep him as their leader in the new Congress in 2007.†That’s the Philadelphia Inquirer. Here is the Washington Post. “for Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) is that he was sloppy about financial disclosure rules in accounting for a real estate deal on which he made a $700,000 profit.†That’s 175% more than ExxonMobil. “The more unattractive case is that the senator’s inaccurate description of the investment was an effort to disguise his partnership with a Las Vegas lawyer who’s never been charged with wrongdoing but whose name has surfaced in federal investigations involving organized crime, casinos and political bribery since the 1980s… It’s true — under the inadequate financial disclosure rules — that even if Mr. Reid had listed the newly formed corporation, Patrick Lane LLC, that wouldn’t have by itself demonstrated Mr. Brown’s involvement. Nonetheless, that Mr. Reid no longer owned the land, but instead had sold it for an interest in the Patrick Lane corporation, was not some mere ‘technical change,’ as the senator would like to brush it off. It’s an essential element of financial disclosure rules, the purpose of which is to know how and with whom public officials are financially entwined.â€
Hey, Post people? Fred Hyatt, editorial page. Go to Strata-Sphere.com, if you can bear to look at a conservative blog and just take a look at the 18 printed pages. When you look at it, there’s nothing in them that rings suspicious. It’s just public records of sales, loans, and so forth involving Dingy Harry and his wife, but for crying out loud, what does this guy make? You know, I look at everything from — and a lot of other people do, too, and it’s a mistake to do this — but I look at these guys, what does a senator make, $165,200 (leaders make $180,100). We know that the Democratic side of the Senate is populated with considerable wealth. More millionaires, multimillionaires on the Democrat side than on the Republican side and that’s always struck me odd when the Democrats say that they have an understanding with the common man. By the way, you common people know who you are, and the Democrats, they’re able to “relate†to you
They understand. I’m going to just tell all you common people out there, you couldn’t get close to accomplishing what Dingy Harry has accomplished, apparently over and over and over and over again. If the ethics committee really digs deep into this, this investigation is going to going on for a long, long time. Now, why do you suppose the Washington Post and the Philadelphia Inquirer and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution are editorializing on this and suggesting that Dingy Harry has a lot of explaining to do? I mean, why are they not ignoring it? Why are they not sweeping it under the rug? I don’t want to look a gift horse in the mouth, but not too many people read the editorials. They read op-eds, but there aren’t too many people that read the editorials in a newspaper.
They’re boring. They’re literally boring. They’re the worst written aspect of the newspaper. So it’s a way to get it in the paper without getting it in the paper. But when they do write these editorials they’re pretty cutting to Dingy Harry. And I think that there’s a bit of a concern on some of these papers’ parts, “This is just too close to the election for this to come out. If this guy is a problem, we’ve gotta do something about it, we’ve gotta make sure that we aren’t appearing to sweep it under the rug here at our paper,†and so forth and so on. I’m just hazarding a guess. What does the Journal-Constitution say? Well… “Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid would be well advised to stop thundering about corruption in the Republican ranks, or crying cover-up over the GOP’s failure to promptly and appropriately deal with Mark Foley.
“Reid faces too many questions about his own behavior to crusade about the misdeeds of others. Currently he’s trying to explain a land deal in Nevada on which he made a pile of money and which may not have been properly disclosed. When the property was sold in 2004, it belonged to a company formed with a long-time friend and included a parcel that once had belonged to Harry Reid. Despite having transferred his parcel to the company, for the same amount of loot that he bought it for, the Nevada Democrat continued to report in Senate Democrats he still owned it personally. That’s a breach of Senate disclosure rules, according to the AP, which first reported the transaction details.†Now, that is pretty stunning. We’ve covered this.
He continued to report in Senate documents he still owned it personally. He wants to say, “Well, it’s an oversight. I’ll go and pay a fine. I’ll fix it.†When you look at the number of land deals that Dingy Harry is involved in, you find out this is a full-time involvement in it he has. This is not something going on in the ten or 20% of his day that he doesn’t have to do Senate business or what have you, or party business. When you look at these documents — we’ll link to it at RushLimbaugh.com. We’ll put it up there so you can look at it yourself. This is an ongoing enterprise, and these kinds of things people do not do hands off with no attention being paid and just verbal agreements, “Oh, yeah, you go ahead and take this 400 grand. I’ll give it back to you. I’ll forget that I sold it to you. I’ll pretend I still own it, then you can pay me.†It’s hard to believe.
“Reid is now considering whether he should amend his disclosure statement. Two months ago the Los Angeles Times reported that Reid had smoothed the way for a campaign contributor and friend to develop a huge tract of land northeast of Las Vegas. Reid tried twice before he was successful to get a utility right-of-way moved from a proposed development site on to public land.†By the way, at RushLimbaugh.com there’s a LA Times story from the nineties that we dug up a long time ago that is amazingly detailed and illustrative of the workings of the Dingy Harry family in Las Vegas and how they’re all intertwined, and nobody cared about that when it came out, either, but we’ve got it permanently linked in our Essential Stack of Stuff. We’ve got it highlighted on the front page so that you can access it as well.
“The first effort of Harry Reid’s stall because of objections from the Bureau of Land Management and others that the developer wasn’t going to pay for anything for a deal that would greatly increase the value of his development site. Eventually, though, it was determined that the developer should pay the federal government more than $10 million. Then there are the free boxing tickets that Reid took from the Nevada Athletic Commission. The panel was hoping to block formation of a national boxing commission. Reid favored one. Only after the AP reported this summer that Reid got the expensive tickets did Reid decide he no longer accept such gifts. Unfortunately, Reid’s ethics meter only seems to work when it’s too late.†This was written by David McNaughton for the editorial board. They actually signed this editorial: David McNaughton for the Atlanta Journal and Constitution — and then Jed Babbin wants to know why is it that none of the major TV networks or newspapers have managed to pay attention to the biggest real scandal of this season, and that is Dingy Harry Reid. Be calm, ladies and gentlemen. Be cool. At some point they’ll not be able to avoid this.
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RUSH: Not to make a big deal out of this, ladies and gentlemen, but falsifying the report as Dingy Harry Greed apparently did is a federal crime, under Title 18, United States Code section 1001. It’s a false statement for which Reid could be sent to jail, according to the statute. Now, as Jed Babbin says, “If you’re looking for this on tonight’s network news or on the front page of tomorrow’s New York Times next to the latest Foley reveal, you won’t find it.†MSNBC, as I said, did a little blurb on this today, this morning in addition to the original AP story here, and let me just highlight some things that are relatively new.
“Other parts of the deal such as the informal handling of property taxes raise questions about possible gifts or income reportable to Congress and the IRS, ethics experts said. Reid and his wife Landra personally signed the deed, selling their full interest in the property to this Jay Brown’s company, Patrick Lane, LLC, for the same $400,000 they paid in 1998.†Now, you buy something for 400 grand in 1998, you sell it back four years later for the same amount of money? No inflation even factored in, much less interest? Come on! Who does this? (interruption) Real estate wasn’t booming? (laughing) Real estate wasn’t booming. What was this? This was at the height of the Clinton economic nineties, Mr. Snerdley! Don’t tell me real estate wasn’t booming.
Now, despite the sale, Dingy Harry “continued to report on his public ethics reports that he personally owned the land until it was sold again in 2004.†So it was six years. He claimed he owned it for six years when he didn’t. “His disclosure forms to Congress don’t mention an interest in Patrick Lane or the company’s role in the ‘04 sale. Reid isn’t listed anywhere on Patrick Lane’s corporate filings with Nevada even though the land he sold accounted for three-quarters of the company’s assets. Brown is listed as the company’s manager. Reid’s office said Nevada law didn’t require Dingy Harry to be mentioned in the filings.
“Ethics experts say such informality raises questions about whether any of Jay Brown’s tax payments amounted to a benefit for Reid. It might end up having been a gift. For years, Reid also had been encouraging the interior department to make land swaps on behalf of Del Webb, where one of his former aides worked.†We’ve been through all of this. Here’s the rezoning aspect. This is cool. “Clark County intended for the property that Reid owned to be used solely for new housing. Just days before the Harry Reid sold the parcels to Brown’s company, Brown sought permission in May of 2001 to rezone the property so a shopping center could be built. Career zoning officials objected saying the request was inconsistent with Clark County’s master development plan.
“The town board in Spring Valley where Reid’s property was located also voted 4-1 to reject the rezoning, but Jay Brown persisted. The Clark County zoning board followed by the Clark County commission voted to overrule the recommendation and approve commercial zoning so the shopping center could be built. Such votes were common at the time. Before the approval in September 2001, Brown’s consultant told commissioners that Reid was involved. Mr. Brown’s partners: ‘Harry Reid, I think we’ve people in this community you can trust to go forward put a quality project before you.’†Harry’s in on this; no need to sweat it! So now people are wondering whether Dingy Harry’s son Rory had anything to do with any of these votes. Andrew in Clifton, New Jersey, I’m glad you called. Welcome. You’re first on Open Line Friday, and welcome.
CALLER: What an honor to speak to you, Rush.
RUSH: Thank you, sir. You bet.
CALLER: I wanted to know why the Republican leaders haven’t asked for the resignation of Harry Reid? We’re six weeks out of an election. The Democrats are calling for Hastert’s resignation. They’re basically building up a lot of political clout against this man, and I want to know where the Republicans are on this.
RUSH: Well, I’ll answer this again. Number one: The Republicans don’t have to say anything because we’re doing their job for them here. Number two, it’s just not in them. They just don’t operate this way. You could ask this about virtually everything. When the whole Foley thing came, where were they there? They were running around like scared dogs with their tails between their legs or their other body orifices.
CALLER: Then they deserve to lose then if they’re not going to get up and —
RUSH: No, no, no! WE don’t deserve to lose. Screw these guys! WE don’t deserve to lose! WE don’t deserve to have Democrats running this country at this point in our nation’s history. That’s not what this is about. Let me tell you something. There’s a USA Today columnist, and I forget his name right now. There’s a columnist at USA Today who heard me say that everybody’s looking at this the wrong way. The media has got everybody focused on: “Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose? Will the Republicans lose the House? Will Republicans lose the Senate?†and I said in a brilliant monolog earlier this week, “What if the Democrats lose? If they can’t win in this kind of climate and environment, they don’t even deserve to be a political party.
And this guy picked up on it, thinks I have a point, starts examining whether or not the Democrats have even earned the right to govern. He’s a media guy. He begrudgingly acknowledges that I have a point. This whole thing needs to be turned around in terms of looking at the context. Why is it that the reporting day in and day out is always focused on Republicans lose, Republicans lose the House, Republicans lose the Senate. We really don’t hear a whole lot of focus on the Democrats doing this to win back the Senate, the Democrats doing this to win back the House. What we hear are never ending stories about how people hate Republicans, and we are never told that the people of this country have anything other than total adoration and love for Democrats.
If you’re to believe the mainstream press, there isn’t one Democrat who’s going to get one negative vote, who’s going to lose an election in this race. There isn’t one American who has any gripe with any Democrat. All the gripes are aimed at Republicans. Well, we know that’s BS. There are 20 million of us, and we have gripes with Democrats. We’re being totally ignored in this context. So, you know, when you say the Republicans deserve to lose, we don’t deserve to lose is the way to look at this. We certainly don’t deserve to have this nation governed by lightweights like Nancy Pelosi and dangerous people like Chuck Rangel who will raise anybody’s taxes faster than he can go to the bathroom after winning the race. These guys, they portend policies that will reverse very nice economic directions that the country is headed in. Anyway, why don’t the Republicans come up? Who knows? They don’t want to be attacked themselves. Maybe they’ve got things they’re hiding. Who the hell knows? All I know is, they don’t ever do it.
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October 14th, 2006 at 12:26 am…you may learn something.
Comment by BonesTwo
Duh. See #180. I learned that today.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:26 am#188 Are you kidding Bones 2? Nobody ever learns anything from you.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:26 amJPark – you have learned something….i know that
October 14th, 2006 at 12:28 am#193 Nope, I already knew you righties were idiots. To be fair though, if I hadn’t known it I would have learned it tonight!!!
October 14th, 2006 at 12:31 amomg! another one has morphed from dittohead into ditto machine – someone call the CDC!
October 14th, 2006 at 12:32 am#195 I am not sure it is treatable.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:35 amI GUESS I HAVE TO POST THIS AGAIN FOR THE MASTER TROLL
WOW,,,,WHAT A TOTAL F!!UCKING A$$HOLE BONES TWO IS, NICE POST…NOW I THINK “SLOGGINGâ€, THAT IS “DRINKING AND BLOGGING†IS NOT FOR YOU. WHY DON’T YOU GO EMAIL YOURSELF YOUR BACKED-UP RUSH LIMPBALLS SHOWS. RETARD…
October 14th, 2006 at 12:37 amI was deleted for calling a vote to delete that Rush Limpballs show.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:41 am#198 I haven’t been deleted so far. I doubt you were.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:47 amThis is so appropo for this blog too.…
Somebody here ought to refer Bones-Two to the Copyright Police. I think after 500 words it becomes a felony. That’s 6 months for every 100 words past 500 in Federal Prison, plus fines.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — October 14, 2006 @ 12:37 am
Well there is the caveat of, Section 2 Item 214b, “If one provides documemetation of the provided clause of reference then probability of thus mentioned documentation is valid for mere purposes of referencing of public sourced media in aims to refresh others that the Individual is so F!!!cking drunk that they cannot help themselves and thus should be commenced to being kicked in the balls repeatedlyâ€.
Comment by ren — October 14, 2006 @ 12:44 am
October 14th, 2006 at 12:49 amOk I wasn’t deleted, the Limpball was posted again.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:50 amI was deleted for calling a vote to delete that Rush Limpballs show.
Comment by ForTruth
You’re still there, Truth. Bones Two just put up another load of crap…
October 14th, 2006 at 12:53 amYo, that’s why I posted my crap twice, couldn’t help it, at least it isnt a mile long.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:56 am#200 is brilliant, ren & Briseadh na Faire.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:58 amdon’t be scared, if you read that post you may learn something.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:07 amComment by BonesTwo — October 14, 2006 @ 12:24 am
Buddy, Rush isn’t Wikipedia ok, we want facts not OxyContin quotes, speaking of which maybe you weren’t just doing the booze maybe you were doing the “BonesTwo-Double Dutch Majic” eyhhh…?
You know if I were one of the brain dead sheep, and wanted to listen to unmitigated right wing propaganda, I would just partake of the Limbaugh program via radio, myself.
Bones….have a little trouble expressing a point concisely? Your great white bigoted mouthy hero has the same problem.
Sheeeeeeesh, how boing can you get!!!??
October 14th, 2006 at 1:19 amYes, and boring too!
October 14th, 2006 at 1:21 amWhy would I read a Limpball list if I would’nt listen to him on the radio? -retard..
October 14th, 2006 at 1:29 amPoor bonestwo, he start with some his own opions, I appreciate that because at least he has something in his brain. But now he has nothing except copy from Foax news. Does he go nut?
October 14th, 2006 at 2:24 amI see people are busy trying to put legs on the Harry Reid so-called sweet land deal.
This tactic is getting so old: Everytime someone points out a fault with the Bush administration, all kinds of Bush cultists come out from under the rock they were hiding and scream “Look! Over there!”, and try to change the subject -as if a wrong found somewhere else absolved this administration, and justified its misbehavior.
Bush cultists everywhere: Whatever the eventual outcome of the Senate inquiry into Reid’s land sale, fact remains that Gen Jones thinks the Iraq (mis)adventure is a debacle, Ney plead guilty to nfluence-peddling charges, Foley had to resign for soliciting sex from minors via IM, and Rove calls the faithful followers “the nuts”.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:39 amyo come over to the 14,000 People Demand Chris Wallace Ask Rice About The U.S.S. Cole blog, or im going to bed, f#ck it….
October 14th, 2006 at 2:43 amA+Real+American, is a sidekick of a politician linked to GOP Mark Foley and
October 14th, 2006 at 3:12 amthe fake GOP gay reporter in the White House Prss Corps. These are from a very reliable GOP source. GOP sources have indicated that A+Real+American is paid by the gOP to respond to comments against GOP in progressive blogs. Lastly do not let youngsters near A+Real+American; why because A+Real+American associates with Mark Foley and Jim Kolbe (both GOP Reps).
America needs many more outspoken officers like Gen. James Jones. The war on Iraq is nothing short of an unmitigated disaster. The US military is deliberately misinforming the public on the casaulties there. They are much greater than reported. Check out the video on base Falcon which was wiped out a few days ago by Iraqi freedom fighters. The US military said there were no casualties. On the contrary there were many American casulties – nine transport planes full. This war is a terrible waste of financial and military resources that the US can ill afford to spend. It has greatly weakened the US.
October 14th, 2006 at 9:08 amhttp://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_external.php?article=106538&list=/home.php&
Why does anyone pay any attention at all to a troll like A+Real+American+Asshole? The guy is clearly a vacuous, vapid, delusional lying little twit who can’t keep his exaggerations, fantasies, lies or stories straight and who has but one purpose on these boards; divert attention.
Clearly James Jones is another in a long line of political victims of this administration whose only crime is that they became fed up with the crap being shoved at them and decided to do the right thing and tell the truth.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:30 pmThe occupation of Iraq is the one of the greatest failures in American history. It has created more terrorists, made an unstable region even more volatile, made our enemies in the region stronger, weakened American influence in the world, killed or maimed thousands upon thousands innocent Iraqis and killed or maimed thousands of America’s brave soldiers. That is the legacy of the Bush Administration and the Rumsfeld lead Defense Department. Congratulations to anyone in a position of power or infulence to come out and call it for what it is.
bit by bit the american people are being robbed of their freedoms ,by the time the war is over so will america be over
October 14th, 2006 at 3:16 pmit took the alies 5 years to grab adolf hitler by the scruff of his neck
yet 10 devisions are bogged down by a bunch of cavemen for the same amount of time
it is obvious that protraction is the game as it was in vietnam
generals who are not yes men have no more purpouse they are redundant
lots of money being made by the rich while the country’s poor folks are being made to fight and die for the cause
the worse thing though is when it is said and done and the boys come home they will come home to a foriegn land where neither their freedom or their sanity will be gauranteed effectively Iraq will have more freedom than America will have by then
Death and Maiming Stats
Anton wrote: “The US military is deliberately misinforming the public on the casaulties there. They are much greater than reported. Check out the video on base Falcon which was wiped out a few days ago by Iraqi freedom fighters.”
It should be easy to get someone to count the bodybags. But what about maimings etc? Imagine having your genitals blown off! Why do people join the military?
BTW, I think Iraqi death stats are 30,000 – stable since 2004.
Actually, they might be falling…
Iraqis are being resurrected from the dead by Bush’s Christianity and democratic inspiration.
October 14th, 2006 at 11:59 pm[...] Source: Think Progress Posted by Michael Kolanos Filed in Military [...]
October 15th, 2006 at 2:47 amThat should read “Please seek professional mental help” Sorry still gut laughing…
October 15th, 2006 at 8:07 pm