Emails Suggest White House Political Concern Over Foley In 2004; Snow Issues Non-Denial Denial
Emails Suggest White House Political Concern Over Foley In 2004; Snow Issues Non-Denial Denial
The Palm Beach Post has published emails between ex-Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL) and Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL) suggesting that the White House considered Foley a political liability as early as 2004 and asked him not to attend events with President Bush.
Foley wrote to Gov. Bush on Sept. 29, 2004:
Have I done something to offend the White House … I am always getting the shaft … they came to ft pierce a few weeks ago and said I was not allowed to attend … yet joe negron is there …
Tomorrow Potus is in Martin County and I am told I am not allowed to be there either. I can’t quite figure what I have done but this is a continuing pattern of slights … I have constantly put the President in the best possible light on everything from haiti to hurricanes … sorry to trouble you … and I wouldn’t if this wasn’t so frequent …
Gov. Bush responded that day: “I will try to help. I know it is nothing you have done. Promise. I think it relates to debate prep time. Jeb.”
Foley also sent Jeb Bush “a cryptic message in the fall of 2005, roughly coinciding with the time” that a former page complained to Rep. Rodney Alexander (R-LA) about inappropriate emails from Foley.
“I need your thoughts on something … are you in south florida or somewhere we can meet up,” Foley messaged Bush on Oct. 3, 2005.
“I am up in Tallahassee. Will a call suffice?” Bush responded.
Foley asked Bush to call him at his Fort Pierce office or on his cellphone.
At today’s press conference, Tony Snow issued a non-denial denial when asked whether President Bush didn’t want to be seen with Foley. “As far as we know the answer is no,” Snow said, “but I’ll try to give you an actual definitive [answer].” We’ll be waiting.
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October 13th, 2006 at 4:13 pmI’m sure the White House would have allowed Mr. Foley in the Free Speach zones. ;]
October 13th, 2006 at 4:13 pmGeez. Let’s see, use people up to obtain your ends and then toss them asunder. Fits the Bush pattern perfectly. To wit: Colin Powell, John O’Neil, the Religious Right, and now the Grand Old Pervert, Foley.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:14 pmNoose…Slowly…Closing
October 13th, 2006 at 4:17 pm‘I’m always getting the shaft’…..to funny…
October 13th, 2006 at 4:18 pmWhy do Foley’s messages read as if they were written by a socially insecure twelve year old?
October 13th, 2006 at 4:21 pmBegala: “come on baby - just a couple more weekends out of this news story and we have a shot at winning the congress back. ”
Carville: “God knows we don’t want to talk about raising taxes, granting civil rights to terrorists, etc. - then the american people might actually find out who we are.”
October 13th, 2006 at 4:21 pmI think Dems should demand a 4-year, $70 million, Ken Starr investigation.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:21 pmCarville: “Did you hear about that Reid thing”
Begala: “No”
Carville: “Of course you didnt you stupid, Reid’s a democrat, nobody’s going to talk about that. ”
(Both in laughter) hahahahahahahahaha
October 13th, 2006 at 4:23 pmI think Dems should demand a 4-year, $70 million, Ken Starr investigation.
You might get one…..into Harry Reid.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:23 pmBUTT SEX WITH BOYS! YIPPEE!
October 13th, 2006 at 4:24 pmThe trolls will be on here saying you silly liberals first you claim that Karl Rove did it and now you claim Bush did it when will you stop overreaching. Jame Dobson already blames Media Matter for spinning the foleygate out of control. http://mediamatters.org/items/200610120007 Dobson baselessly claimed Media Matters “spun” his Foleygate comments
See that is why we should get liberals underoath and Hastert is a great house leader because he found a way to make Nacy Policy purger herself. Sure Rove is innocent and Libby is innocent but you silly liberals should know once you purger underoath you will be just as curropt as we are. Who cares if you are innocent and try to escape the oath we will just say it means you knew and are covering it up.
We will accuse you with lies because we are the Holy Moral value community. We have The Christian Right so dumb they do not know we make fun of them behind their backs. So have fun silly liberals when you loose the House and Senate thanks to DIEBOLD oh and we will just claiim you are the fringe far left when it happens.
Yours Truely Mr. Draft Dodging Republican.
P.S. Did I mention just because more democrats Serve in the military then Republicans we will accuse you of being traitors and unpatriotic. 4 more years of George Bush opps I forgot that’s our November surprise for you when we win the House and Senate again we change the rules to allow Bush to rule forever. Long live Jesusland!!!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2006 at 4:28 pmI thought he liked getting the shaft.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:29 pmI congratulate you, BonesTwo.
It takes guts to keep a sense of humor in the face of impending doom…. for Republicans, that is.
I can see why you are so upset. I mean, if I blindly supported a political party for years that was incapable of running the country while having absolute power in all three branches of the government, I’d be sad, too.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:34 pmBonesTwo: here’s a few real ones:
“No one could have predicted an attack with airplanes.” - Condi.
“[Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside United States] was a historical document.” - Condi.
“No one predicted there might be a breach of the levees.” - George W.
“We will hunt down those responsible [for 9/11]” - George W.
… this list goes on, and on. See, I don’t have to make them up.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:35 pmOK . So somebody told the whitehouse Foley is queer, and he might get outed, and then Bush might look bad for campaigning with him……
So what?
This is not an issue.
Foley-gate is over.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:35 pmShouldn’t number 7 be in a jo chat room with pre-pubescent Aryan boys — isn’t that the GOP way?
October 13th, 2006 at 4:37 pmtruetrue, foleygate still has steam because Republicans are stupid on the Scandel they are providing the steam. Everytime a Republican tries to shift blame to a Democrat all they are doing is showing how stupid they are. Republicans were in control of the House and Senate. They will loose prepare for it the people are wising up to Republican lies. Republican days are numbed.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:39 pm#17
Truetrue -
I believe the implication (granted, this seems to be entirely that, an implication) is that the White House was aware of the ongoing inappropriate contact Foley was having with children. Not that he was gay.
Don’t get me wrong, they probably had an inkling about that too, but I believe more people care about the GOP leadership’s coverup of the pedophilia than the sexual orientation.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:41 pmthose gopers are real gossipy bitches, ain’t they? seems none of”em can keep their mouths shut long enough to give their own side a chance to spin up a cover story. some teamwork, fellers!
October 13th, 2006 at 4:42 pmRepublican days are numbed.
Comment by AHiddenSaint — October 13, 2006 @ 4:39 pm
classic Libnut response,,,,the republicans always win
dont cry too much on Wed. Nov. 8th
October 13th, 2006 at 4:45 pmHastert, not Dems, is keeping Foleygate in the news. Hastert, please don’t resign for at least another month!
October 13th, 2006 at 4:46 pmclassic Libnut response,,,,the republicans always win
dont cry too much on Wed. Nov. 8th
Comment by truetrue — October 13, 2006 @ 4:45 pm
Wow! Four commas! That’s powerful.
And Republicans didn’t win for the 40 years the Democrats held Congress. In fact, it took 40 years for the Democrats to use up the goodwill of America before they got kicked out.
Only took Republicans 12 years. I guess they are better at some things.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:48 pmOh ya. since think progressive wont post it (you know your getting a balanced news reporting on this site).
lets lay the rumors to rest : AIR AMERICA FILES FOR BANKRUPCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2006 at 4:49 pmI know why Mark “the Spark” Foley got exiled. It was after that time the Bush Bros., Mr. Delay, Mr. Reed and some of the other fellas got all drunk, snorted all of that coke and wanted to play “Deliverance” again…it was their favorite ‘game’. Mr. Foley screamed “I will not be the Pig again goddamnit!” The others laughed harshly and went after him like Vikings. It was horrible. Anyway after he healed up Mr. Foley wanted back “in” and by then the other guys had made up their minds that they just were not that into him anymore. It was really sad. Mr. Foley cried a lot.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:51 pm#22 “Republican days are numbed” Perhaps, the Freudian slip shou have replaced “days” with “brains”, then we could agree, right, numb-nuts.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:52 pmDear middle guy:
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2006/ 10/ 13/ air-america-files-for-bankruptcy/ #comments
October 13th, 2006 at 4:53 pm#21. Your gossipy bitch (Foley) was a democrat until he figured out that the democrat’s ideology wouldn’t get him any votes.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:54 pmHelp start our own war on terror. Sign today!The Second Declaration of Independence.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:54 pmIf democrats can take back the house and senate, don’t worry about air america, liberals will have it subsidized.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:57 pmyou can be sure if the roles were reversed- a democratic congressman was revealed to be a pedophile, the democratic leadership covered it up– republicans would be paragons of restraint and delicacy.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:59 pmtony snow can go blow mark fo
October 13th, 2006 at 4:59 pm#29
Let’s see… how do I address your post…. Oh, I got one:
“Whatcha talkin’ ’bout, NeoCon?”
October 13th, 2006 at 4:59 pmBonesTwo
Try to focus now. Foley’s a Republican. The pages worked for Republicans. The leaders in the House who were told about it and did nothing are Republican. The page who tipped off ABC about the story is a Republican. The people having to come before the House Ethics Committee now and spill their guts are Republicans.
Who is it that’s responsible for all this terrible stuff happening to the Republicans a few weeks before the election? C’mon, you can do it. Just say it. That’s right. Republicans.
Dumb, crooked, lying, hypocritical, pathetic Republicans. And they had it coming.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:05 pmFoley has a book deal to publish all of his most private e-mails–I hear it’s gonna be a real page turner :)
October 13th, 2006 at 5:13 pmchimpeach, don’t try to argue with them. they’re just typing to distract themselves from their feelings of guilt for supporting policies that have killed millions of people.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:13 pm#22 “Republican days are numbed†Perhaps, the Freudian slip shou have replaced “days†with “brainsâ€, then we could agree, right, numb-nuts.
Comment by NoMoreBush — October 13, 2006 @ 4:52 pm
But then the humor would have been lost on them. I just wanted to spell like a freeper.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:14 pm#29 paul
Your gossipy bitch (Foley) was a democrat until he figured out that the democrat’s ideology wouldn’t get him any votes.
Ooh, good one, paul. Now explain how he got elected. Are you saying that Republicans in his district are dumb enough to vote for anyone who has an “R” after his name and they don’t care what he stands for? Did he get his party’s endorsement or didn’t he? If he was really a Democrat in disguise, wouldn’t it have made sense for him to either switch parties after he got in or just vote like a Democrat? Check out his voting record. He’s voted like a Republican all along. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…
You really shouldn’t just repeat the talking points without giving them a little thought first.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:17 pmIf democrats can take back the house and senate, don’t worry about air america, liberals will have it subsidized.
Comment by paul
Works for me, paul. Tough days ahead for the Bush Gophers, huh. Oh, well, look at the bright side. At least Bill O’Lielly, Hannity, and Rush Limpdick will REALLY have something to piss and moan about, you know?
October 13th, 2006 at 5:17 pm#35 Woh the way they hide it, light it, accept it, it seems not a big deal. A Repbulic Rep. who molested by a Republic priest as a Teen, solicit sex from a teen Repbulic pager. Is it their Familly Value?
October 13th, 2006 at 5:23 pm#37
That’s okay. I don’t mind arguing with them. I’m sure half of these trolls are getting paid to come here anyway. I can’t imagine someone setting himself up for abuse like that for free. We really should make them earn their paychecks.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:26 pmJust like Bush pretends to be from Texas, the GOP pretends to be tough and manly. Turns out y’all are a bunch of child molesters, drunks and homos. Heh! See YOU on Nov. 8th….pansies.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:29 pm#39. chimpeach. very nice! you’re right (for once).
October 13th, 2006 at 5:31 pmchimpeach, I can there are some really stupid people out there espically freepers who believe the Democrats coined this scandel. These people also do not understand why we call them the radical right when all they care about is power. The Republicans are nothing but facists if they can attack or hate a group they will. Oh do not forget it was proven that a republican was posting fake messages from the office so I also wouldn’t put that past them.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:36 pm#44 paul
chimpeach. very nice! you’re right (for once).
That’s mighty big of you to say that (but your arithmetic is off).
October 13th, 2006 at 5:44 pmAs usual, Nico and TP are making it up as they go along. There is nothing in the above-quoted emails that even remotely expresses any “White House Political Concern Over Foley.” Moreover, these communications say nothing that would demonstrate to a normal person any knowledge of Foley’s improper communications with former pages.
Shame on you, Nico. You should resign from TP for twisting the truth beyond all recognition. And shame on TP for allowing Nico to post such obvious lies.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:45 pmBTW, there is nothing strange or suspicious about the President’s question (”Will a call suffice?”) - especially when one considers the fact that Tallahassee and Ft. Pierce are more than 365 miles apart.
Nico really ought to do a bit more research before posting this kind of nonsense. As a certain wacky wabbit used to say, “What a maroon!”
October 13th, 2006 at 5:51 pm#47 & 48
Can you offer an explanation for the White House wanting to keep Foley away when Bush was in his neighborhood?
“they came to ft pierce a few weeks ago and said I was not allowed to attend … yet joe negron is there …
“Tomorrow Potus is in Martin County and I am told I am not allowed to be there either. “
And it was Jeb, not the prez, who asked if a phonecall would suffice.
October 13th, 2006 at 6:09 pm“Why do Foley’s messages read as if they were written by a socially insecure twelve year old?”
Emulating his target audience?
October 13th, 2006 at 7:51 pmCan you offer an explanation for the White House wanting to keep Foley away when Bush was in his neighborhood?
In the neighborhood? What a crock! In case you haven’t looked at a map recently - or maybe you just went to an urban public high school - that’s like saying that Pittsburgh is “in the neighborhood” of Indianapolis.; or that Las Vegas is “in the neighborhood” of San Diego. You need to get out more and see the world, little leftie!!
October 13th, 2006 at 8:16 pmWhat did Bush know two years ago?
October 13th, 2006 at 8:37 pmFoley was going to be asked to resign AFTER the election this fall; until then, they needed to keep his seat and use his popularity and money - after that he would be of little value to them and a high risk, because they were aware of his secrets.
Boys, boys, calm down…and girls.
October 13th, 2006 at 9:21 pmAll of you are acting just as the bushes do when they are at their pedophiliastic orgies at the White House. Try to remember this little boy love was going on way back in the 80s when papa bush was veep, then prez. For sure you have to believe JEB, George W., and Marvin were all waiting in line for the latest interns from Boys Town to be tossed aside by papa so they could have sloppy seconds. I’ll bet rove was there, too, to help clean up the mess.
Can you imagine how much dirt Hastert has on these White House perverts? No wonder dumya is standing up for Hastert; if he didn’t, ol’ Dennis just might let leak some salacious tidbits. Would Gannon/Guckert be mentioned?
At least JFK, RFK, and WJC had women in their harems, not little boys. VOTE REPUBLICAN! VOTE GOP: Gay Old Perverts!
“Foley wrote to Gov. Bush on Sept. 29, 2004:
Have I done something to offend the White House … I am always getting the shaft …”
And his complaint is… Precisely *what*? I thought “getting the shaft”, even occasionally, never mind “always”, was his aim??? Or is the Prex too old and flaccid for his tste?
October 13th, 2006 at 9:42 pmAhem.. We’d like to categorically deny any accusation that we denied earlier, if it’s stated intention was to deny the fact that, well, pretty much any old fact, or for that matter, any crap we just dreamed up.
October 13th, 2006 at 10:14 pmThanks, ladies and gentlemen of the White House press corpse.
Most Republicans are predators.
October 13th, 2006 at 10:23 pm#53 You are still defending perverts? I thought you had Hannity and O’Reilly to do that for you.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:12 pm#53 Desperate Dad
In the neighborhood? What a crock! In case you haven’t looked at a map recently - or maybe you just went to an urban public high school - that’s like saying that Pittsburgh is “in the neighborhood†of Indianapolis.; or that Las Vegas is “in the neighborhood†of San Diego. You need to get out more and see the world, little leftie!!
It’s so much fun to slap you down when you shoot your mouth off like an ignorant putz.
You’re so incredibly wrong. It’s not anything like “saying that Pittsburgh is ‘in the neighborhood’ of Indianapolis.” But it’s EXACTLY like saying that Bush was visiting Foley’s congressional district. Because, that’s what he was doing!!!
The president came to Foley’s congressional district and they told Foley to stay away. Now that you’ve been straightened out on that, do you want to try again and give us your guess as to why they told Foley that he shouldn’t be accompanying Bush in his own CD?
Go ahead. Entertain us with another ignorant answer.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:54 pmBrendan O’Maidian you are an idiot, and unfortunately for you, representative of your movement. You sound like a Dear penthouse - white house version. But I understand that you have to go to that extreme to keep this story with legs so that your party might have a chance this Nov since you guys sure as hell arent going to talk about your issues.
Yea, i want to raise taxes…..reject.
Yea, I want to make the terrorist feel safe….reject
In fact, yea, I think the terrorists have more rights than you do…..reject
Beat it you conservative wannabee.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:20 am#61 We understand that you don’t understand the economy or national security. It is a common malady of the right. Too stupid to govern.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:24 amPres. Dubya Bush and Karl Rove must have known about Foley stalking underage teenage male Pages, so they kept him at arm’s length from them, but at the same time they did not care that he molested Pages as long as he did not get caught doing it!
October 14th, 2006 at 1:56 amWhile the reason for Foley’s status as persona non grata in W’s 2004 electioneering swing through Florida might prove as interesting as the speculation about it, there is another more pressing question which has remained curiously unasked about Foley’s emails with Jeb - Did Foley ever ask about Jeb’s penis size?
October 14th, 2006 at 8:39 amWhile the reason for Foley’s status as persona non grata during W’s 2005 electioneering swing through Florida might prove as interesting as the speculation about it, a more pressing question has remained suspiciously unasked about Foley’s emails with Governor Bush - Did Foley ever ask Jeb about his penis size.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:48 amoops… 2004 electioneering swing.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:51 amGo ahead. Entertain us with another ignorant answer.
I apologize. I had no idea you had a learning disability. Let us all know when you catch up to the “normal” people, so we can teach you how to read a map and compare Tallahassee to Ft. Pierce.
October 14th, 2006 at 9:05 amIt’s so much fun to slap you down
Yeah, you seem to enjoy slapping lots of things. Whatsamatta? Jealous that Foley doesn’t IM you anymore?
Speaking of slapdowns, I can’t resist quoting John Hinderaker, from Power Line:
“[T]o the extent that people are offended (as they should be) by homosexual Congressmen hitting on teenage boys, does anyone seriously believe that the solution is to elect Democrats? I doubt it. Democrats are far more associated with both homosexuality and sexual misbehavior than Republicans.”
Ahh-h-h-h, nothing quite like the fragrance of truth in the morning!
October 14th, 2006 at 9:16 amgee… sorry about the multiple posting (or maybe I’m really curious about Jeb’s package)
October 14th, 2006 at 9:48 amSince when does anyone in this administration care about “debate prep time?” They simply b.s. their respective ways through everything and rely on the lazy media to call them on it.
October 14th, 2006 at 10:31 amMakes you wonder, what exactly did the White House know about Foley, and when did he know it.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:30 pmBush is part of this all male 69 Repug. club of perverts.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:37 pmFor BonesTwo:
Does your name imply that you can bone two people at once, or two apertures at once, or two male pages at once?
October 14th, 2006 at 2:05 pmTo call me a conservative “wannabee” (sic) is the same as calling dumya bush a warm and sensitve freedom fighter. The only time I’m conservative is when I throw out the trash in separate containers, and that is conserving.
With people such as you hanging around, yes, the “terrorists” are feeling wonderful.
‘Tis pity he’s a bore.
Yet another scandal that will be denied and swept under the rug.
October 14th, 2006 at 4:24 pmMore business as usal by this administration
#67 Pathetic Dad
I apologize. I had no idea you had a learning disability. Let us all know when you catch up to the “normal†people, so we can teach you how to read a map and compare Tallahassee to Ft. Pierce.
Thank you. That was truly entertaining. I knew you wouldn’t let us down. I’ll make it as simple as I can and hope that you can follow it.
1. Mark Foley is the U.S. House Representative for Florida’s 16th congressional district.
2. Ft. Pierce (as in “…they came to ft pierce a few weeks ago and said I was not allowed to attend…”) is in Florida’s 16th CD.
3. Martin County (as in “…Tomorrow Potus is in Martin County and I am told I am not allowed to be there either.”) is also in Florida’s 16th CD.
4. The president (not Jeb, but George) was in Foley’s congressional district and Foley wasn’t allowed to accompany him.
5. Tallahassee has nothing to do with it. That was a different matter. Repeat - Tallahassee has nothing to do with it.
If you can’t read and understand these articles, you shouldn’t be commenting on them. Okay?
October 14th, 2006 at 11:00 pm#68 Citizen Douche
Speaking of slapdowns, I can’t resist quoting John Hinderaker, from Power Line:
Well, you really should resist quoting Ass Rocket. He has an aversion to facts, especially when they don’t support his opinions. And they so rarely do. I guess that explains why you’re always wrong.
October 14th, 2006 at 11:06 pm[…] Emails Suggest White House Political Concern Over Foley In 2004 The Palm Beach Post has published emails between ex-Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL) and Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL) suggesting that the White House considered Foley a political liability as early as 2004 and asked him not to attend events with President Bush. […]
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