POLL: Majority Of Americans Reject Right Wing’s Anti-Gay Smears In Foley Scandal
POLL: Majority Of Americans Reject Right Wing’s Anti-Gay Smears In Foley Scandal
Since the Foley scandal broke, many right-wing activists have attempted to brand the scandal as a homosexual issue. Linda Harvey of the conservative site WorldNetDaily stated that “sex with youth are built into the ‘gay’ sub-culture” and Family Research Council President Tony Perkins said that “neither party seems likely to address the real issue, which is the link between homosexuality and child sexual abuse.”
Fortunately, the American public has rejected their dishonest scare tactics. A new Human Rights Campaign poll shows that Americans continue to support gay rights:
– 62 percent of Americans believe that Foley’s behavior was “typical of politicians,” as opposed to just 30 percent who believe his behavior was “typical of gay men.”
– 70 percent of Americans say that the Foley scandal has not changed their opinion of gay people.
– 80 percent of Americans believe it is important to make “sure that gays and lesbians receive the same rights and protections under the law as other Americans,” up from 77 percent in April 2006.
Foley’s behavior was the disgraceful behavior of a pedophile. It had nothing to do with the behavior of gay men.
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[...] Foley’s behavior was the disgraceful behavior of a pedophile. It had nothing to do with the behavior of gay men. Original post by Amanda Read More… [...]
October 14th, 2006 at 1:11 pmGlad to see Americans don’t buy the line that gay = pedophile. It’s a lie and always has been.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:13 pmAfter 12 years of using smear and fear, I think people are FINALLY catching on. Took long enough for people to realize republican is middle english for lying, cheating, stealing sons of b’s!!!
October 14th, 2006 at 1:17 pmLinda Harvey of the conservative site WorldNetDaily stated that “sex with youth are built into the ‘gay’ sub-cultureâ€
And it is also built into the Mormon subculture.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:19 pmAmanda, I would amend your final statment as follows:
Foley’s behavior was the disgraceful behavior of a [predator]. It had nothing to do with the behavior of gay men.
Just my opinion, of course.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:21 pmAnyone who knows gay people realize that they are just people.
Anyone who knows neocon politicians knows that they are just corrupt.
Clearly it is a neocon politician thing, and not a gay thing…
October 14th, 2006 at 1:23 pmI have 2 comments- One, what is that symbol that you used- the blue square with the yellow equal sign in the middle (or at least I think that’s what it is). I have seen that sticker on many cars and have always wondered what it was, or what it signified- please excuse my ignorance. Also, I would argue that Foley’s behavior is not the behavior of a pedophile. A pedophile seeks out children, and a 16 year old is not a child- they have passed puberty. His behavior is disgraceful, unacceptable and certainly the sign of a man who sought to use his power and influence to manipulate young men who were significantly younger than him, and whose judgement and sense of what is right and wrong is not as developed as we would expect of a 52 year old man, but I would not classify him as a pedophile. I think the phrase ’sexual predator’ that I have heard used is more appropriate.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:27 pmYet when in ‘83 a Democrite gets caught ……yada, yada, yada
Comment by hellpig
Yeah, don’t life for Republicans just suck sometimes?
No pun toward intended.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:30 pmhellpig,
*crickets chirping*
October 14th, 2006 at 1:32 pmClearly it is a neocon politician thing, and not a gay thing…
Comment by unbelievable — October 14, 2006 @ 1:23 pm
Really, well I see this on TP all the time. Just posted last night by one of your regular posters. See he uses “fags” in a positve way. The hypocrisy is like your name, unbelievable.
Well, it appears liberalism has failed in the free markets… LOL
Comment by muckdog — October 13, 2006 @ 9:57 pm
Well Da..Hu..â€Liberalismâ€? You Repugs make me sick…The thing that strikes me the most about republicans is how many fags and child molesters you have and refuse to acknowledge; in both the party and your freakin church’s. Myself, I totally don’t mind and even enjoy when two hot girls are making out, but Republicans cant stand it. When two guys are making out on TV or whatever it makes me sick. But republicans see that the same as two girls making out. wtf..
I don’t mind having gay men and women around me but you repugs bug out when around them…
Meanwhile, you repugs are the biggest homophobes yet are full of fags and child molesters,,, give me a break…
Comment by ren — October 14, 2006 @ 12:19 am
October 14th, 2006 at 1:32 pmIt is not the Right that is slamming gay’s…look in the mirror and be honest with yourselves. Right now at DU there are a dozen threads wanting to “out” gay’s, only Republican gay’s….
Involving yourself in another persons private life for the sole purpose of gaining a political advantage is wrong.
Oh yea…CatWoman…you are the laughing stock of the internet…
October 14th, 2006 at 1:33 pmin my gut, i am certain that foley is just the tip of the iceberg… our congress is chock full of individuals using their power, money, and privilege to further their own ends… looking after the commonwealth and stewarding the precious fundamentals upon which the united states is (supposedly) based, do not seem to occupy a place on their self-serving agendas…
i sent off my absentee ballot on wednesday and, as much as i don’t like to do it, i voted a straight party ticket… there’s a lot on the dem side that gives me heartburn but nothing compared to the r’s making my head explode… with mere weeks to go, my thoughts turn more and more often to wondering about the october surprise…
And, yes, I DO take it personally
October 14th, 2006 at 1:33 pmThe sybol is the human rights campaign.
I agree that this is a pedophile issue and to make it a gay one is wrong. Will they make it a heterosexual issue if it comes out as tucker suggested that there is another predator in congress that is straight?
– 70 percent of Americans say that the Foley scandal has not changed their opinion of gay people.
I do wonder if this figure includes people where it affirmed their bigotted views
October 14th, 2006 at 1:33 pmSeems to me the real issue is that peopla actually pay attentio to what the Family Research Council has to say. They’re Christianist nut-jobs at best.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:34 pm…I am a Capitolist
Comment by hellpig
Well…that explains a lot — but probably not in the way you were hoping.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:36 pmwouldn’t know I am not a republican I am a Capitolist
Comment by hellpig
Capitalist, pig. If you’re going to be one, at least know how to spell it.
There’s a more important issue: the links between conservative theory incest.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:37 pmThe correlation between youthfulness and beauty is of course not limited to homosexuality, the ‘barely legal/ teen porn’ genre is a major market for straight porn. But there is a very stark line in with both homosexuality and heterosexuality in which normal attraction to youthful beauty becomes the sickness of pedophilia. This line is crossed with a perturbed attraction to pre-developed adolescents and a socio-psychological attraction to an emotionally and socially dependent innocent.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:38 pm“#9 wouldn’t know I am not a republican I am a Capitolist
Comment by hellpig — October 14, 2006 @ 1:33 pm”
Capitalist.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:39 pmrepublican smear tactics are not working in any arena. Rove will have to go back to the drawing board.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:41 pmI’m glad people aren’t falling for this blatant attempt by the GOP to paint Foley as the rule rather than the exception. Still, I shudder to think the damage he’s caused the gay rights movement.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:42 pmhellpig,
Studds “had his dick up a pages ass” in 1973. The republicans brought it up in 1983 because one of their congressman had been caught with a female page. I think what Studds did was wrong, but it was legal, AND consensual. Big difference.
PS Studds turning his back when he was being censured has made a lot of play on the blogs. That is protocol for someone being censured!
October 14th, 2006 at 1:45 pmInvolving yourself in another persons private life for the sole purpose of gaining a political advantage is wrong.
Comment by LJS
I might have agreed ten years ago. Before the Republicans went after every affair Bill Clinton ever had BEFORE he was president. Republicans have been digging into every democratic candidate’s private lives from the Kennedys girlfriends to Barney Franks gay lifestyle.
Its sauce for the goose, LJS, and what goes around, comes around.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:47 pmhellpig has a fixation with a dick up his ass. I hope you get lucky tonight.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:48 pmDon’t bother, people like hellpig don’t let inconvenient things like “facts” get in the way of their opinions.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:49 pmKinda like the Christian Right, actually…
It amazes me that this country continues to function at all given the power of the right wing. Every solution they offer is an ideological response which is never the correct solution and often not even addressing the same problem. Every enemy they attack is never the real enemy. They spend money and man-hours on solutions while the problems get worse; they spend resources and American lives on fighting enemies who have not attacked us, and the numbers of our enemies continue to grow.
Amazingly they are always wrong — always wrong. And yet we continue. But after 6, 7 and 8 years of this our worsening problems will eventually consume us and we only ignore our true enemies at an ever increasing risk to all.
It’s truly a testimony to the greatness of this country and the American spirit that we can survive them
October 14th, 2006 at 1:50 pmhellpig – if yiou are going to comment on 23 year old scandals, please remember Crane – a republican – was also involved. It is so convenient to forget what your own party does wrong isn’t it?
October 14th, 2006 at 1:51 pm#21 – Well let me here your oh so educated backwater explaination. As if I really care what a raging Liberal with a mental disorder has to say.
Comment by hellpig
“Educated” and “backwater” are contraindicative, hellpig. You can look that up later.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:52 pmand it’s “hear” not “here.”
October 14th, 2006 at 1:54 pmAs an aside, apparently Studds died this morning as a result of a bloot clot in his lung.
October 14th, 2006 at 1:55 pmRegardless of what he’d done in the past, he did a lot of good for the gay rights movement, and married his long-term partner soon after it became legal in Massachusetts.
Foley, on the other hand, is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, and a habitual opprotunist willing to sell out anyone to further his own personal power.
I do not have a lot of time to visit TP and actually comment. I teach high school geometry and am a busy gal. So why is it whenever I do have the time the trolls that visit are such a waste of breath?
October 14th, 2006 at 1:56 pmProtect your civil rights–join the second revolution.
The Second Declaration of Independence
October 14th, 2006 at 1:56 pm#33 After you do your mother?
October 14th, 2006 at 1:58 pm#41 just because you were born of a jackass doesn’t mean you have to take it out on everyone else. Why don’t you get some help for your misguided anger and frustration?
October 14th, 2006 at 2:03 pmMaf54: #33 Hellpig, Do I know you? Have we met before? If we haven’t could we, I like your style. ;-0
October 14th, 2006 at 2:04 pm#25 So by your definition it is legal to have sex with pages? you think this is OK?
Comment by hellpig
It may be legal, but I don’t think it is OK. Still, maybe you ought to ask Newt Gingrich, the former REPUBLICAN House speaker and now rightwing talk show pundit. He is known for dangling his Newt now and then. After he got done screwing his House aid, Callista Bisek, who was 23 years his junior, he decided to divorce his wife and marry her.
A typical Republican hypocrite, really, and his affair was before led the REPUBLICAN charge to get Bill Clinton for the same kind of tryst.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:05 pm#27 actually I fixate on my dick up asses,which is why I am seeing your father again tonight gonna drive it deep tonight I have been stretching his ass out for the last year but tonight he will taste it
Comment by hellpig
Come on, asshole, clean it up.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:06 pmRen, I didn’t know you liked the infantile, foul-mouthed, low IQ, imbecile persona…
October 14th, 2006 at 2:07 pmGood one ren! The gay issue really brings out the crazy f*cked up trolls doesn’t it?
Later ya’ll, I’m outta here.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:08 pm#44…those are republican family values.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:09 pm#44 I remember his wife also was dying from cancer at the time too…hmmm.. got to love those “values”
October 14th, 2006 at 2:10 pmI’m not sure what’s worse, hellpig’s Bizzaro-world political beliefs or his atrocious spelling…
October 14th, 2006 at 2:10 pmhellpig,
Yes, it is legal. The age of consent in DC was and is, 16. If Mark Foley had sex with a 16 year old page it wouldn’t be illegal, but stalking someone under 18 on the internet for sex is illegal.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:10 pm#46 I dont, The Maf54 character would seem to though obviously with the Foley thing going on and all….
October 14th, 2006 at 2:11 pm#48 your comments make me wish that they didn’t make computers available to prisoners. What are you in for?
October 14th, 2006 at 2:12 pm#53…LOL!
October 14th, 2006 at 2:14 pmLook for the Republican Gay Glee Club to soon be coming to your city, town, and incestuous GOP backwater. Appearing will be accomplished tenor David Drier, melting your hearts with his silky, non-commital spooning; Ken Melman, bringing back some of that “good ol’ time, Gospel Goose-stepping;” and no-one “brings it home” like Mark Foley in cowboy boots and titty-tassles, doing an updated rendition of Maurice Chevallier’s old song, called, “Thank Hastert for little boys.”
Bookings will be available, starting in December of ‘06.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:14 pmoops, I meant #54 LOL….sheesh
October 14th, 2006 at 2:15 pmhellpig, please take your meds.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:16 pmhellpig, it’s difficult to understand your rants if we can’t decipher your words….not that it would help any…
October 14th, 2006 at 2:20 pmI was born of a jackel
Comment by hellpig — October 14, 2006 @ 2:01
Hmmm, jackel … Jack El … Jack L … Wait! That’s it! Jack L.! You’re the love child of Jack Lord!
October 14th, 2006 at 2:23 pm#51 I didn’t realise I was getting graded on my spell in this cesspool of hate and hipocrisy, it amazes me when ever I blog when they have no comment all they can do is attack my spelling..key word ATTACK
October 14th, 2006 at 2:25 pmComment by hellpig — October 14, 2006 @ 2:17 pm
#1 It’s realize
#2 “I was getting graded on my spell?” You mean spelling of course….
#3 You brought on the worst vile comments in post #33 that I have ever heard. So go back to the meat packing plant and please smash your keyboard….
If I understand correctly, some of the teenaged boys Foley, a 52-year-old gay adult male, was trying to pressure/seduce were straight/heterosexual males. In those cases, the only comparable behavior would be a 52-year-old straight adult male trying to pressure/seduce gay/homosexual teenaged females. From the victims perspective, isn’t that different and or more aberrant than an adult straight male trying to pressure/seduce teenaged straight girls?
October 14th, 2006 at 2:27 pmOK hellpig – nice try highjacking the thread.
Republicans use smear – no problem. Democrats speak the truth – they are playing politics. Republicans are the party of fear, smear, intollerance, bigotry, corruption, and distortion. They have NO values. They believe in getting what they can and screw everyone else.
Americans are finally waking up to this. Finally!
October 14th, 2006 at 2:30 pm#51 hellpig, also “it amazes me when ever I blog when they have no comment all they can do is attack my spelling..key word ATTACK”
October 14th, 2006 at 2:31 pmWhen ever in this case is whenever, it’s one word… just thought I could help.
Also, Key word is one word too…Keyword…. ya,,ok…
Thirty percent is alot of people who thing Mark Foley’s behavior is typical of gays. That’s still way too many
October 14th, 2006 at 2:32 pmI didn’t realise I was getting graded on my spell in this cesspool of hate and hipocrisy ….. all they can do is attack my spelling..
Comment by hellpig
Well, I will stand up with you on that one. My spelling is just atroshuss sometimes. Lets talk about something much more fun, like making up jokes.
I got one: What did Foley say to the teenage pages that finally raised the Republicans suspicions?
Answer: When they heard him introduce himself by always saying, “Hey, how’s it hanging, pal?”
October 14th, 2006 at 2:32 pm#68 hey hell-pig, did the spelling advice help you out? good glad to help…
October 14th, 2006 at 2:34 pm#64 – Just an FYI, it’s also “hypocrisy” and “whenever”
“realise” is an appropriate British spelling – but I don’t think hellpig is a Brit. LOL
October 14th, 2006 at 2:34 pmOsage:
Either way, it’s “grooming” someone under the age of consent. Perhaps Foley misread something a page said or did to make him think they were groom-able. If he was in fact molested when he was roughly their age, he would remember his feelings of adolescent confusion, and perhaps project those feeling onto others, whether consciously or unconsciously, rightly or wrongly.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:34 pm64 at least I have a father you bastard child spawn from the backseat of a Ford Pinto
Comment by hellpig
I was wondering what happened to I-RIGHT-I and why he hadn’t been around for a while.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:36 pmRen are you not a bit of hypocrite on this gay issue? Here is one of your posts from last night:
Well Da..Hu..â€Liberalismâ€? You Repugs make me sick…The thing that strikes me the most about republicans is how many fags and child molesters you have and refuse to acknowledge; in both the party and your freakin church’s. Myself, I totally don’t mind and even enjoy when two hot girls are making out, but Republicans cant stand it. When two guys are making out on TV or whatever it makes me sick. But republicans see that the same as two girls making out. wtf..
I don’t mind having gay men and women around me but you repugs bug out when around them…
Meanwhile, you repugs are the biggest homophobes yet are full of fags and child molesters,,, give me a break…
Comment by ren — October 14, 2006 @ 12:19 am
So ren gay people are fags?
October 14th, 2006 at 2:46 pmwas wondering what happened to I-RIGHT-I and why he hadn’t been around for a while.
Comment by Joe+Sixpack
And Hendler and Exley also seem to have decided to “take the fifth” lately. I think it’s the coming elections: they’re on record, and when they lose, they know their previous words will be served up, hot and dripping.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:48 pmEveryone type using small words and simple constructions – Ben has announced that he doesn’t understand the concept of SARCASM.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:50 pm#79 can I plead the Gibson Defence? (The Gibson Martini $9.00
October 14th, 2006 at 2:53 pmGrey Goose Vodka and dry vermouth, shaken with two olives)
Like I said before…”It is Quicker to talk to the Rovers on Mars than it is to Post on Think Progress…”
October 14th, 2006 at 2:57 pmErica,
The sign is an HRC sticker.
And I agree with your statement that this isn’t about pedophelia. Pedophiles, as you said, go after children. In fact, if they get to the age of puberty they become unappealing. The whole point of going after children is that they ARE children. A pedophile is not interested in a teenager, he is interested in kids like JonBenet. And they are mostly all straight.
Then you’ve got the incest fathers and uncles. They can be pedophiles in a sense because they start when the kids are babies, but it can extend past puberty, as long as the person is living in the house or has access. Once again, they are mostly straight offenders.
Foley is really neither of those. He is just one of those sick, semi-abusive assholes who sexual harrass underage kids. The kids though, are not 9 and 10 years old, they are teens or older. They are past puberty, which means they have already established their sexual self identity (even if it is self hidden- it is already formed). Normal adults who are non-pedophiles might still be attracted to this age group in some respect, but most have boundaries to not follow that through, and certainly not to harrass them. By chance, Foley just happened to be gay and the folks he harrassed were male not female. (The teenage girls who worked there, if any, were probably relieved.)
Right now in every American High school there is a Foley or close to one. And many of them are straight. Somewhere there is a male teacher who has rubbed the shoulders of his 16 year old female student. The student is uncomfortable but says nothing. She endures off color jokes in class. The word quickly gets out in the student body to keep your eyes on Mr. so and so because he likes kids. And it exists outside school, and continues in the workplace, and in the military, and in clubs, and in church, and everywhere there is an authority figure.
That’s what makes it so much worse, because of the power imbalance. Maybe the kids can tell the janitor to screw off, but what do they do when the boss takes a liking to you? That is really the issue here.
October 14th, 2006 at 2:58 pmWhere did SpellPig go? I saw another deal online for him….
October 14th, 2006 at 2:59 pmWhat the hell is DU and what does it have to do with Think Progress?
October 14th, 2006 at 3:14 pmSorry there big guy, but the backwater states are all red.
October 14th, 2006 at 3:16 pmYes, just ask one.
October 14th, 2006 at 3:18 pm[...] Foley’s behavior was the disgraceful behavior of a pedophile. It had nothing to do with the behavior of gay men. Original post by Amanda Read More… [...]
October 14th, 2006 at 3:23 pmI have to disagree with the notion that Foley is a pedophile. He is a sexual predator, but there is no evidence that he sexually molested children. But his homosexuality had nothing to do with the fact that he is a sexual predator – there are too many heterosexual sexual predators out there to consider that homosexuality causes one to become a sexual predator.
October 14th, 2006 at 3:29 pmSo why is Ann Romney, Mrs. Mitt Romney, meeting with Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council for their Boston Liberty Sunday broadcast?
October 14th, 2006 at 3:34 pmDoes the Governor of Massachusetts’ wife agree with Perkins’ claim that homosexuality and child sexual abuse are linked?
Maybe some reporter could ask her.
Or does she think it’s okay to smear all the gay people of Massachusetts her husband supposedly represents?
Er…but most pedophile crimes are hetero are they not?
October 14th, 2006 at 3:42 pmMitt Romney has no chance to win the GOP nomination. Zero.
Like all the righwing wedge issues, the “gay” issue as another pandering farce. These lunatics value power and money in no particular order, that’s it.
The next 3 weeks could be a bumpy ride, be careful ou there folks.
October 14th, 2006 at 3:42 pmThe south abandoned the Democrats once the GOP decided to go with their “southern strategy”. Unforunately for rightwingers, the Cheney/Rove admin has fuc$ed things up so badly with their hubristic evil overreach that they’ve been exposed. All downhill from here.
October 14th, 2006 at 3:48 pmThe “gay” issue is another crusade for equality, which the Republicans oppose since they’re NOT AMERICANS. I don’t care what people think, but Republicans just don’t think about the welfare of their country; they’re either the elite who think only about fattening their own pockets, or they’re those who are brainwashed by those elites.
O, and if Romney becomes our president, I’m leaving for North Korea…
October 14th, 2006 at 3:48 pmWell let me here your oh so educated backwater explaination. As if I really care what a raging Liberal with a mental disorder has to say.
Comment by hellpig —
Of course you don’t care.
October 14th, 2006 at 4:01 pmAt least the trolls aren’t afraid to admit what they’re all about.
hellpig.
October 14th, 2006 at 4:05 pmThe Dixicrats left the Democratic party when the Democrats started fighting for human rights. Those Dixicrats went over to the Republican party, where they were welcomed with open arms.
Nice try, next.
October 14th, 2006 at 4:08 pmNope.
October 14th, 2006 at 4:09 pmAccording to what I’ve heard and read, pedophelia is about power and the desire to dominate someone weaker or incapable of protecting themselves. Not sex.
October 14th, 2006 at 4:17 pmhellpig is just another quality representative of the Republican party and the Bush administration. Quite impressive as a spokesperson. Keep up the good work hellpig.
October 14th, 2006 at 4:24 pmPardon me for the long post but it is to interesting… go to wikipedia for the rest…
The term Dixiecrat is a portmanteau of Dixie, referring to the Southern United States, and Democrat, referring to the United States Democratic Party. Initially, it referred to a 1948 splinter from the party: for over a century, white Southerners had overwhelmingly been Democrats, but that year many bolted the party and supported Strom Thurmond’s third-party candidacy for president of the United States. Over the next several decades, as the white South slowly re-aligned from the Democrats to the Republicans, the term came to have a broader usage, including, for example, with reference to the members of the Electoral College who in the election of 1960 voted for Harry Flood Byrd rather than John F. Kennedy, or the white Southern voters and electors who in 1968 supported George C. Wallace.
The term has also been used to refer to conservative white Southerners who remain within the Democratic Party, and those who were formerly Democrats but now identify as Republicans.
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States’ Rights Democratic Party was a short-lived splinter group that broke from the Democratic Party in 1948. The States’ Rights Democratic Party opposed racial integration and wanted to retain Jim Crow laws and racial segregation. The party slogan was “Segregation Forever!” Members of the States’ Rights Democratic Party were often known as Dixiecrats.
The party was formed after thirty-five delegates from Mississippi and Alabama walked out of the 1948 Democratic National Convention. The walkout was prompted by a controversial speech by then-Mayor Hubert Humphrey of Minneapolis, Minnesota urging the party to adopt an anti-segregationist plank in the platform, which it did. Even before the convention started, the Southern delegates were upset by President Harry S. Truman’s executive order to racially integrate the armed forces.
After President Truman’s endorsement of the civil rights plank, Strom Thurmond, governor of South Carolina, helped organize the walkout delegates into a separate party, whose platform was ostensibly concerned with states’ rights. The Dixiecrats held their convention in Birmingham, Alabama, where they nominated Thurmond for president and Fielding L. Wright, governor of Mississippi, for vice president.
October 14th, 2006 at 4:34 pmContinued… at wikipedia
seems Hellpig’s gotten a little bit worn out. Hasn’t posted in a while.
I love it when people who are obviously radical claim they aren’t affiliated with a party. Or when someone says things like “your attacking my spelling because you don’t have an argument,” right after claiming that he’s been having a sexual relationship with someone’s father.
October 14th, 2006 at 4:42 pmWhere’s the admin around here? Can’t someone prevent him from posting anymore? I don’t mind differing opinions, but the kind of blatent, stupid, rudeness here is absolutely excessive.
I think that tablogloid misstated the question – the true statistic is that a vast majority of PEDOPHILES are heterosexual men. That doesn’t correlate to what sex the victims are – pedophilia has nothing to do with someone’s sexual orientation.
October 14th, 2006 at 4:48 pmToo bad Americans can’t stand up and demand a withdrawal from Iraq the same way we clamor job justice for a drunk gay predator.
600,000 dead IRaqis.. and what is America clear about – the sexual difference between a pedophile and a gay person.
It would be shocking how pathetically stupid and in denial Americans are, except Americans have been behaving this way for many a year.
Vietnam – a shocking example of Americans simply ignoring what’s happening while our forces slaughter (3 million is it? Vietnamese) And now we are slaughtering the IRaqis.
When 1 million Iraqis are dead, will America care? Or do Americans need to outdo the Vietnam slaughter. Is there some need to balance out the genocidal compulsion?
Or we will we still be arguing about whether Foley is a pedophile, a gay pedophile, just gay, a drunk gay pedophile, or none of the above.
October 14th, 2006 at 4:50 pmpedophelia is about power and the desire to dominate someone weaker or incapable of protecting themselves. Not sex.
Comment by Jay
Like rape. Its a hate crime not a passion one. Rapers are so little in their minds, they need to dominate someone. It has nothing to do with a hot girl/boy.
October 14th, 2006 at 4:51 pm#105 Last time I checked we killed 1 million Iraqis’ over 10 years with our sanctions, so go figure…
October 14th, 2006 at 4:53 pmBut the really important question is – What is the murder of 600,000 IRaqis? It’s GENOCIDE people. Your country has committed genocide. And Foley like all the other rotten bastards in the Congress voted for genocide, and continues to pursue young males while voting for genocide. Is it any wonder he is perverted? Sex addicted? What else do you expect from men and women who vote for genocide? What do you expect from them? They have no conscience. Nor does most of America right now.
October 14th, 2006 at 4:55 pmIf TP makes the font any smaller everyone will need a magnifing glass to see it > post font on here is the smallest of any blog site now > means TP does not care about the comments anymore, just the info at the top of the thread > reduced font infers for visitors to not bother reading it!
I will check back in a few days, but if font format stays like this, then it’s a waste of time to post anything on here > bye all and take care.
October 14th, 2006 at 4:55 pmpedophelia is about power and the desire to dominate someone weaker or incapable of protecting themselves. Not sex.
Comment by Jay
Like rape. Its a hate crime not a passion one. Rapers are so little in their minds, they need to dominate someone. It has nothing to do with a hot girl/boy.
Comment by Juan+C — October 14, 2006 @ 4:51 pm
Jay and Juan, you’re both incredibly wrong! Yes, it is about power, and yes it is also about sex. Sex and power make the world go round. Maybe saying it isn’t about sex makes it more comfortable for you. It is certainly about sex when that marine raped and burned that Iraqi teenager, for example. He had plenty of “power trips” with a uniform and a gun, and could kick anyone’s ass he wanted any day of the week. He wanted something else from that poor girl.
October 14th, 2006 at 5:00 pm107
That’s right Ren. Under the first Bush and Clinton, the sanctions killed 1 million children, just children. And when Madeleine ALlbright, that wonderful woman was asked if she thought it was worth it – all those children dead – she said yes, it was worth it.
And yet here we all are arguing about whether Foley is a pedophile or just a sex addict. It’s a great distraction from the real issues. Yes put him in jail, or whatever, yes remove him from power. But will that change anything?
Cause the values of this country are rotten. When we can look the other way while we slaughter millions, for no reason. No freaking reason. Except money. The money to be made from war.
October 14th, 2006 at 5:01 pmSo perhaps now we know the real reason behind Bush’s desire to attack Iran. Soon most Iraqis will be dead and the ones remaining won’t be worth killing. So his war machine will need a new source of revenue.
And what can we say of the Democrats. The war Democrats like Hilary – who presciently stated that Israel represents American values when it drops millions of cluster bombs in Lebanon.
What can we say of our Congress, both Republicans and Democrats – they are colluders in murder, wanton murder. And yet all we focus on is Foley’s perversion.
October 14th, 2006 at 5:09 pmHe had plenty of “power trips†with a uniform and a gun, and could kick anyone’s ass he wanted any day of the week. He wanted something else from that poor girl.
Comment by Samantha
Dead wrong. In his mind, he didnt have power trips with a uniform and a gun. If you need a gun to feel powerful, you have problems. If you need a big car to feel secure, you have problems. If you need to rape to feel yourself dominant, you ought to be in jail. Anyone raping a little girl cant kick anyone´s ass.
October 14th, 2006 at 5:09 pmSons of Tureen,
I’m not sure how much time you spend or have spent on this blog or other like-minded blogs, but you’re outrage is understood. Usually folks try to stay on topic. You won’t find an American more outraged by what the Cheney regime has done in Iraq than I. It’s disgusting and many war crimes have been commited. You may want to take advantage of the “topics” tab on the upper right to delve back into previous threads specifically regarding Iraq. You will find almost complete agreement on the topic.
If you know folks that are still unconvinced that what’s been done in Iraq is heartbreaking, please watch this:
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InuA7qgfrWg&mode=related&search=
October 14th, 2006 at 5:13 pm#112 Alright with the Drama….Jesus Christ already….
October 14th, 2006 at 5:13 pmAre you sure your from the US because you keep saying”You” when referring to America killing innocence, Instead of saying”Us”, as in you are part of it too….
Get off the high horse and get those boots on the ground. What are you doing to save the Iraqi People, The North Korean’s starving and every other country that “we” are screwing?
Do you have a plan to help all of these people out?
Please enlighten “us”…..
Juan
How about those Marines in Iraq who raped and murdered the Iraqi girl in her home, in front of her family, and then killed her entire family. And then lied about the crime.
Or what about the sex crimes at Abu Graib. How about the murder of the Amish girls.
The model for American males is to abuse, to use your power to get whatever you want, without conscience.
Foley is just one more member of the club.
October 14th, 2006 at 5:14 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InuA7qgfrWg&mode=related&search=
h in http got cut on my paste
October 14th, 2006 at 5:15 pmJay
October 14th, 2006 at 5:17 pmWhat i see at ThinkProgress is a continuous avoidance of the critical issues and a focus on tangentials like Foley. That’s why I continue to speak out. And I will always do that. I will never engage in fun chat about minor issues like Foley. Right now to me there is nothing more important than the genocide. Why this blog doesn’t have constant coverage and discussion of it is what troubles me, and is why I bring it up. And I will continue to bring it up.
Ren
October 14th, 2006 at 5:18 pmI protested the war before it started. What did you do. I write my representatives, I argue with the Marine recruiter who lives on my block, I make phone calls to my representatives, I write letters. What do you do besides babble on about Foley
I hear you. Keep up the fight, I’m with you!
October 14th, 2006 at 5:19 pmRen
October 14th, 2006 at 5:21 pmI called Hilary Clinton’s office several times after she claimed Israel was standing up for american values. I called asked if cluster bombs were what Hilary meant. I ask for clarification. I called my representative, who is also a no good Republican drunk. I constantly question what any member of congress says, be they Republican or Democrat, what do you do.
Thanks Jay
October 14th, 2006 at 5:22 pmAnd when Madeleine ALlbright, that wonderful woman was asked if she thought it was worth it – all those children dead – she said yes, it was worth it.
Comment by SonsofTureen
Well, what would you expect from US? As a citizen of another country, I can tell you; it doesnt matter if a Dem or a Rep is in charge: the world will suffer an invasion or occupation in any given 4 year presidency.
October 14th, 2006 at 5:23 pmJuan
As long as Americans refuse to face the truth about their government, that it’s main goal is war for profit.
As long as people sit idly by chatting about Foley scandals, and watching Fox or CNN babble distractingly on about nothing, and watch Nancy Grace glare endlessly at the camera while sneering at perverts. As long as Americans just sit by and do nothing, and talk endlessly about justice and truth, while doing nothing about it, our government will continue to wage war for profit.
October 14th, 2006 at 5:32 pmI do the same buddy. I went to all the protests in Washington, NY and Philly and Joined the get out the vote effort for Kerry in Pa for the week leading up to the election with a buddy of mine, I write my senator and house representatives for NY and other Congressmen and Women on critical issues and votes….
October 14th, 2006 at 5:34 pmFor me, I didn’t know if the election was going to be lost in Ohio or Pennsylvania, My friend said Ohio and I said Pa and I was wrong, but we went for the week, and went door to door and finally I got to see Clinton and Kerry together on Sunday and the whole downtown of Philly was full as the Eye could see…And while they talked you could hear a pin drop..anywhere in the city…perfectly quiet………
What do I do…not enough, I’ll admit that….
And the masses are lulled to complacency with the insignificant tripe that is “mainstream media”.
The powers that be don’t want an educated, involved citizenry…that would require that they be held accountable, that they represent us and our interests.
If religion is the opiate of the people, war and fear are its cocaine.
October 14th, 2006 at 5:35 pmRen
October 14th, 2006 at 5:36 pmMe too. I don’t do enough.
“War and fear are its cocaine”
Right on Jay.
October 14th, 2006 at 5:39 pmJuan,
What do you mean, in his mind? Are you inside his mind? Of course someone has issues if they need a big car or gun to feel powerful. Doesn’t stop them from enlisting. Doesn’t stop Ford from putting commercials on the radio making fun of guys with wimpy cars and building bigger machines for the male ego. I mean, what’s next, an army tank? Is that tough enough? When the Commander in Chief gets more points for strapping on some military flight gear instead of how many marbles are in his head, there’s a problem. I’m sorry, but your premise is wrong. That soldier DID rape and burn that girl, and that soldier IS one of the “proud but few” that you all are wearing yellow ribbons for.
By the way this has nothing to do with Foley.
October 14th, 2006 at 6:11 pm#129 I think you are both saying the same thing and not knowing it…. No need to bug out….
October 14th, 2006 at 6:16 pmIn the 1960s, the courting of white Southern Democratic voters was the basis of the “southern strategy” of the Republican Party’s Presidential Campaigns. Republican Presidential Candidate Barry Goldwater carried the Deep South in 1964, despite losing in a landslide in the rest of the nation to President Lyndon B. Johnson of Texas. Johnson surmised that his advocacy behind passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 would lose the South for the Democratic party and it did. The only Democratic presidential candidate after 1956 to solidly carry the Deep South was President Jimmy Carter in the 1976 election…. Just thought that was interesting Wikipedia on the Dixicrats
October 14th, 2006 at 6:25 pmJoe Six,
If you’re still out there, let me just say that we’ve been frequenting this blog for a long time now, couple of years anyway, and people should know that before there was Stephen Colbert….there was Joe Sixpack. Using humor and irony to mock the rightwing. You did it better than anyone man!
October 14th, 2006 at 6:45 pm#132,
“Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Joe Sixpack one the best (fake) Redneck Bloggers out there?”
How was that, Jay?
—Juan C, nice to see you on a Saturday night.
October 14th, 2006 at 7:00 pmNumbers got changed, now it’s 133, Jay…..
October 14th, 2006 at 7:07 pmtrueblue…????
October 14th, 2006 at 7:21 pmYes, Jay, I’m here.
October 14th, 2006 at 7:29 pmHow’d you like the JoeSixpack impression?
—Juan C, nice to see you on a Saturday night.
Comment by trueblue
Hey, true!!! How are you doing? We missed you a couple of nights ago.
October 14th, 2006 at 7:30 pmHijacked a thread, did we?
Well, I had taken a TP sabbatical, but I’m back.
Getting miniblue ready for her first Homecoming dance.
October 14th, 2006 at 7:35 pmShe looks too good for my (motherly) comfort!
So I thought I’d hang here and talk about what a schmuck Foley and all the otherRepublicans are til she comes home.
Missed you, too.
Gotcha trueblue :). Yeah, I remember when he “stayed in character” on every post. I left here for a while and recently started to visit again and I see that he’s now posting out of character….reminded how entertaining he could be.
October 14th, 2006 at 7:37 pmJoe Six’s persona was great!
October 14th, 2006 at 7:41 pmYou did get me, Jay!
:)
I’m sorry, but your premise is wrong. That soldier DID rape and burn that girl, and that soldier IS one of the “proud but few†that you all are wearing yellow ribbons for.
By the way this has nothing to do with Foley.
Comment by Samantha
Whats the yellow ribbon?? I know the soldier did that. I didnt say he didnt. In your past post you said
He had plenty of “power trips†with a uniform and a gun, and could kick anyone’s ass he wanted any day of the week. He wanted something else from that poor girl.
And Im saying not. Anyone feeling secure and comfortable with (for example, really troublesome issues) his appearance, his penis size, boob size, height, weight, etc. have a normal self-esteem. I dont need to be in his mind to know that he was a sick person. Its called psychology…there are mental patterns manifesting in attitudes towards the others. What I tried to say is that, inside him, he was pure filth, no matter how many shots he could put on an enemy, no matter how his equipment look, no matter his power trips. In fact, just the opposite: anyone showing off big time in the street, at school or at work, has self-esteem issues. Now, my thesis is that that soldier didnt want sex. Any forced sex is not sex. Its rage and low self-esteem.
October 14th, 2006 at 7:41 pmMissed you, too.
Comment by trueblue
:)
October 14th, 2006 at 7:43 pmI love it when Juan C. and trueblue and Zooey hijack the TP threads and use them as their own personal message boards. Can’t you communicate by email instead of making the rest of us privy to your personal business?
October 14th, 2006 at 7:44 pmI love it when Juan C. and trueblue and Zooey hijack the TP threads and use them as their own personal message boards. Can’t you communicate by email instead of making the rest of us privy to your personal business?
Comment by RobG
If you love it, why are you suggesting that?
October 14th, 2006 at 7:49 pmAny forced sex is not sex. Its rage and low self-esteem.
Comment by Juan+C — October 14, 2006 @ 7:41 pm
I’ve come to believe that about a good number of people in positions of authority – that it’s about forcing their way on others, so that they can feel superior. It’s becoming an epidemic. And it’s not surprising when we live in a capitalistic world that has found that the best form of advertizing is to tell people how worthless they are without Product X or Gizmo That… Appalling. We’re breeding generations of Inferiority Complexes.
October 14th, 2006 at 7:51 pmRight now in every American High school there is a Foley or close to one. And many of them are straight. Somewhere there is a male teacher who has rubbed the shoulders of his 16 year old female student. The student is uncomfortable but says nothing. She endures off color jokes in class. The word quickly gets out in the student body to keep your eyes on Mr. so and so because he likes kids.
Comment by Samantha — October 14, 2006 @ 2:58 pm
Every American high school? Are you nuts?
Most of the male teachers I work with would sooner cut off their own arms than harm a student. It’s why they are there – to teach the kids, not prey upon them.
A few preditors do not set a national precident that should convict every man who wants to spend his days helping to educate children.
October 14th, 2006 at 7:56 pmAnd it’s not surprising when we live in a capitalistic world that has found that the best form of advertizing is to tell people how worthless they are without Product X or Gizmo That…
Comment by unbelievable
Exactly. Besides the real problem is that most people CANT get that product, so there is an increasing number of people frustrated for not getting WRONG stuff in their lives. The most important thing in life is to breath. Nobody gives a f*ck about that.
October 14th, 2006 at 7:59 pmI am a Cindy Sheehan groupie we are going to Chaves’s house for dinner
Comment by TreasonousLiberal
Its Chavez. Better luck next time in trying to be an a-hole.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:01 pmand anti-america songs please…
Comment by delusionalLiberal
You are doing exactly that by supporting Bush, sheep.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:03 pmThe most important thing in life is to breath. Nobody gives a f*ck about that.
Comment by Juan+C — October 14, 2006 @ 7:59 pm
Well said. The longer I live, the more I value those who speak to power. Keep it up :)
October 14th, 2006 at 8:05 pmOh man I just got caught fondling my neighbors kid,but he consented so I am in the clear right?
Comment by ren — October 14, 2006 @ 8:02 pm
I am a illegal alien and my family smuggles drugs across the border.
Comment by Juan+C — October 14, 2006 @ 8:04 pm
You’re going to be banned for impersonating other people. Hope the immaturity was worth it… Idiot.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:07 pmWell, RobG,
Since I said I was here to talk about schmuck Repug’s and simply said Hello to Juan, I don’t believe this is a personal chat room.
People have posted here for over a year, and they get to “know” their fellow posters. It’s called a community.
Try to lighten up, and we can get back to talking about Foley and the obvious cover-up of his deeds.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:10 pmAre the righty trolls using names like Treasonous and Delusional.
How frickin’ childish.
Why don’t you guys go back to Rove’s office and try to help him figure out a way to save your party come November. That would be a lot more constructive and sserve your masters well.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:11 pmI am a illegal alien and my family smuggles drugs across the border.
Oh, you deduced that for the name. You must be a genius.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:11 pmNow, remember please, that the whole drug issue could be stopped by not consuming it. You know that US is the world´s leader in drug consumption, right? But, hey, anything your leaders tell you.
It’s funny how terrorists hide among the populace and cloche themselves as the others around them so that can pull off their shady stunts right coward…#157 #154 #152 and more right stupid… I bet I know who this one is by the way,,,Hellpig…or as I like to call him, Spellpig.. what a clown.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:14 pmCome into the light little troll . . .
October 14th, 2006 at 8:15 pmI agree with most of what you’re saying. All I was doing was responding to 2 posts which said rape is not sex, it’s power or something else. You’re entitled to your thesis that the soldier didn’t want sex. But you’d still be wrong imo. It’s complicated. there are self esteem issues as you said, and possible societal issues, sexual identity issues, issues of past abuse, bad parental examples, and the list goes on. BUT, it’s still sex. The soldier wanted it to gratify himself, it was spoils of war to him. She was the enemy and deserved it anyway. Women in the USA can say no to him, make fun of him, give him a hard time if they want. This girl on the street couldn’t, because he could overpower her. And since she was the “enemy” it was justified in his mind anyway.
Saying forced sex is not sex is simply incorrect. It’s just more comfortable to think of it that way. Because if we didn’t think of it that way, then we’d make that connection between sex drive and rape. We’d be forced to replace love and respect with selfishness and lust. Then we’d be two hops away from the unwanted visual of our husband or brother raping someone. And we love those people and don’t want to think of them in that way. So it must be an aborration instead….a glitch of nature, a bent mind. But guess what, it’s not. Yes, psychology can get deep.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:15 pmTrue and UnB. Im off. Have to work. Nice talking to you. :)
(Psst. True…thanks :)
October 14th, 2006 at 8:16 pm#166, Thats my SpellPig…”I molest little boys behing the bar” Got ya, ya little rascal.. either drunk again or just didn’t buy the Hooked on Phonics deal I told you about on Amazon…
October 14th, 2006 at 8:21 pmPeople, the word for Foley’s behavior is pederasty and he is properly called a pederast, not a pedophile. Look it up by clicking here.
On another issue here, at least one of the IM’s was made while he was residing in Florida, where the age of consent was 18, not 16. So his acts were illegal in this particular situation.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:21 pmSilly neutered twit. If an original thought ever existed in that shed you call a brain, it died long ago of loneliness.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:22 pm#69 nice try? I not only hijacked it for over 60+ posts I owned you all,despite my spelling which is due to not caring
October 14th, 2006 at 8:25 pmComment by hellpig — October 14, 2006 @ 2:35 pm
This is who we are dealing with….. so if anyone wants to understand this D!CK’s motive please be advised…
The comments NOT actually made but attributed to the folks @TP, (Juan,ren,barfly) only serve to show very clearly the hate-filled, closed-minded thoughts of the Republican trolls that frequent here.
All you show is hatred when you do the small-minded hijacking of names.
You’re not smearing anyone’s reputation, because we are a community here, and know those people wouldn’t say those things.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:27 pmAll you’re doing is embarrassing yourself.
ren; you’re correct. He’s going to be jumping from thread to thread like a flea-bit hound from now until election day. Get used to it.
But the ‘pig won’t have time to bitch after nov. 7, as the troll pit will be shut down, and he’ll actually have to find gainful employment.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:28 pmThis guy is a little worm…I could give a sh!t less about his sh!t ass little posts, but what upsets me more is the following…
October 14th, 2006 at 8:33 pm#1 The Mars Rover lag-time for the posts.
#2 Constant removal of posts that contain swear/curse words in them.
And finally the things Pissing me off about TP..
October 14th, 2006 at 8:37 pm#3Why did you have to F#uck with the Font Size?
#4 You worry about all this trivial crap and you allow people to come in and impersonate loyal bloggers,,, thanks TP…I.E. Totally Pathetic
I’m not particulary knowledgeable about it, but if they’re reducing text size, and the posts are glacial, doesn’t it point to TP’s server or processing capability as being over-taxed?
October 14th, 2006 at 8:45 pmLook, I don’t mean to curse so much but when I get emotional, I curse a lot. When something gets under my skin I like to vent about it and when the site tears down a good emotional rant that you nailed perfectly, it is a total shock like you just removed words in history. Words that are in a nebulose world of electronic data bases but still out there in the electronic universe, which I say, Back up your data and save as much of all this controversial sh!t as you can; because someone is going to try and pull the plug on it all at some point and all the Internet records and data are going to be lost, because so much of our history is now stored in these servers and giant hard drives that one dumbass could just fry history. Point being, dont tear down the good posts just because they have a swear word in them. There is a difference between some jack-off’s post and a good rant, right?
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October 14th, 2006 at 8:55 pmI love it when Juan C. and trueblue and Zooey hijack the TP threads and use them as their own personal message boards.
Comment by RobG
Glad you love it, cranky. Listen, this thread was hijacked by a fruitcake called “hellpig,” not any of us.
October 14th, 2006 at 8:56 pmYo Rob Morre could you say some of that in english so we can get it?
October 14th, 2006 at 9:01 pmSeems like they are selling off whole Islands, is that correct?
So the gay smears aren’t workig for the Repigs, I feel really bad.
October 14th, 2006 at 9:20 pmMe too, Truth — since it’s all they got.
(grammar, ouch)
October 14th, 2006 at 9:24 pmJeebus, Truth, can we clear a room, or what?
*crickets chirping*
October 14th, 2006 at 9:29 pmJeebus, Truth, can we clear a room, or what?
October 14th, 2006 at 9:33 pm*crickets chirping*
Comment by Zooey
What does Truth have anything to do with that? :)
#183 I’m eating “Ritz” crackers and a pate’ watching the youtube Daily Show Reruns, still sick as a dog…
October 14th, 2006 at 9:34 pmren, since you’re on youtube, search for “flaming shot goes horribly wrong.”
That was me, thirty years ago!
October 14th, 2006 at 9:41 pmExcept I wasn’t stupid enough to try and drink it!
I just burned all the hair off my arm, and later awoke with my head in the trash (but that’s another story).
October 14th, 2006 at 9:44 pmWhat does Truth have anything to do with that? :)
Comment by Juan+C
Ok! So it was just me clearing the room. Happy? *sniff*
:)
October 14th, 2006 at 9:49 pmBeen there, done that…
October 14th, 2006 at 9:49 pmI didn’t actually mean it that way, ren…
Man, am I red-faced.
October 14th, 2006 at 10:01 pmBeen there, done that…
Comment by ren
Ren and Barfly…dont want to sound pompous…but how did you actually enjoy being with friends and having some beers? Is it necessary to be wasted to enjoy a party? I ask because I saw a lot of wasted kids in Cancun on Springbreak…whats the point? Oh, and the yelling: uuuuuuhhhh!! My question: So?
October 14th, 2006 at 10:02 pm(This is a question posted by a guy who got drunk at his 13 y/o…so nevermind)
#189 yo,zoe,, mean what what way… I think I am glowing too by the way, but you wouldn’t know it by my superior flying skills….
October 14th, 2006 at 10:03 pmHappy?
:)
Comment by Zooey
Just when I read your posts. :)
October 14th, 2006 at 10:03 pmJust when I read your posts. :)
Comment by Juan+C
As always, the charmer. Have you been doing well?
October 14th, 2006 at 10:09 pmHave you been doing well?
Comment by Zooey
Yeah, a little tired, only.
#194 We have the asshole back. Im going to speak russian, so anyone can see Im still me. (?)
October 14th, 2006 at 10:11 pmI noticed some of the comments were off the wall, Juan.
October 14th, 2006 at 10:13 pmI noticed some of the comments were off the wall, Juan.
Comment by Zooey
Like which ones? By the way, some troll is kidnapping poster names…maybe thats it, Zoo. Or maybe I really said something you didnt like…Im sorry if that happened.
October 14th, 2006 at 10:17 pmNo Juan, I’m talking about the idiot hijacking the names — not you. You are fine.
October 14th, 2006 at 10:20 pmYou are fine.
Comment by Zooey
Ufff. Thought this was the day where you got mad at me. :(
October 14th, 2006 at 10:23 pmBut it isnt! :)
The only off the wall comment Zooey is why does your twat smell like tuna?
Comment by Juan+C
HAHA! What!?
October 14th, 2006 at 10:23 pmYeti,
A limp weenied asshole is stealing our names. We can tell the difference, but since you’re new, you really can’t.
If “Juan C” is saying anything insulting to me — it’s not him.
October 14th, 2006 at 10:26 pm204 – Ohhhhh. Why don’t the admins block his IP address so he can’t post?
October 14th, 2006 at 10:27 pmTo the troll here:
October 14th, 2006 at 10:27 pmIa dumaiu ti takshe moshesh gabarit pa ruski. Pa etamu, gabar pa ruski, bliat.
I think we ought to just leave this thread to that name hijacking idiot.
October 14th, 2006 at 10:27 pm#201 wasnt mine either, Zoo. :)
October 14th, 2006 at 10:28 pmThat’s telling him, Juan.
October 14th, 2006 at 10:28 pmI think we ought to just leave this thread to that name hijacking idiot.
Comment by Zooey
We can’t let the terrorist win!
October 14th, 2006 at 10:28 pmI think we ought to just leave this thread to that name hijacking idiot.
Comment by Zooey
I agree. Take care, Zoo. Hope the wheat is unburned tonight.
October 14th, 2006 at 10:29 pmWhy don’t the admins block his IP address so he can’t post?
Comment by Yeti_Steve
They must be sleeping. THis began happening three hours ago.
October 14th, 2006 at 10:30 pmCome on’ Juan…you don’t sound pompous… you sound like you need a shot of nyquill.. It is absolutely not necessary to be wasted,,,, and we’re not at a party otherwise I might get wasted..
October 14th, 2006 at 10:30 pmIf you saw a lot of kids not getting wasted on spring break in Cancun, wouldn’t you actually be worried?
Bye, Juan.
October 14th, 2006 at 10:33 pmIf you saw a lot of kids not getting wasted on spring break in Cancun, wouldn’t you actually be worried?
Comment by ren
Ha! That was funny.
October 14th, 2006 at 10:39 pmBut, actually, no. I rather go to places where US kids arent around. They are loud, dumb and boring. Including girls, of course. At first, when you are a kid, you like to see some b**bs flashing…but then it gets boring (yeah, I said that). I prefer europeans. They are quieter, softer, incredibly well-informed and love the prehispanic culture. I know, i know…that was a wide generalization, a stupid one, ok. But thats my opinion. If you want to enjoy a mexican beach, avoid big, fancy hotels. They will be full with drunken Eminem wanna be kids.
Hey, trollie. Babelfish gives you the translation in the cyrilic alphabet and what I wrote is in latin characters. Dumbass.
October 14th, 2006 at 10:40 pmhe’s a pedophile… I don’t buy this “I was drunk” garbage…
October 14th, 2006 at 10:41 pmNow, Im really gone. Sorry if I offended anybody.
October 14th, 2006 at 10:43 pmBye, Zoo.
Juan, I concur totally… I already know that and I haven’t stepped off the continent yet. Been to Canada and Mexico but still not off shore and already I know the atmosphere is different everywhere but here. even in brazil I’m sure its butter smooth there. Man o’Man I miss my country the USA and I am right here… F#ucked up.. I tell ya…
October 14th, 2006 at 10:50 pmMy Final Newest Bumper Sticker…
October 14th, 2006 at 11:12 pm“Bad Gasmilage Supports Our Troops?”
Is the Foley scandal still in the news? Yup
Do the Republicans reap what they sow? Yup.
October 14th, 2006 at 11:14 pmBetter if I spelled everything right….
October 14th, 2006 at 11:15 pm“Bad Gas Mileage Supports Our Troops”
yo, what’s up for truth?
October 14th, 2006 at 11:17 pm“Bad Gas Mileage Supports Our Troops?â€
October 14th, 2006 at 11:18 pmit’s supposed to have the question mark at the end of the quote..wtf..?
Juan C at #190: As a blue-collar manufacturing worker (and ex-carny) I can only say that sometimes you shouldn’t take just any bet simply to prove your manhood, but when there’s real money involved, well, that’s cash.
The farthest south I’ve ever been is Tijauna. Maybe someday . . .
October 14th, 2006 at 11:35 pmya, no sh!t barfly…no sh!t….
October 14th, 2006 at 11:39 pmThat you, piggie?
October 14th, 2006 at 11:41 pmyo, me?
October 14th, 2006 at 11:47 pmRen’s just begging to be a feeding tube candidate. Oy.
October 14th, 2006 at 11:55 pmOk freak — the thread’s all yours. F*ck off.
-The Real Zooey
October 15th, 2006 at 12:24 amOn a related topic, Frank Rich pulls the GOP out of the closet… and they look FAB-uloooooous!
This is definitely one of his better ones.
October 15th, 2006 at 12:28 am217 – Being a young American in college, I can say that yeah, that’s a fair statement about my people. All that they care about is partying and getting wasted. It’s a big contributing factor in the growing apathy in this nation (not news, I know). I can remember the night that N. Korea set off their nuke, and I can remember being glued to the screen (had I known then what I know now I wouldn’t have bothered), and one of my roomates just saying “Wow. Well, I’m gonna go drink a fifth of Jaeger and go to a party.”. THey’re pretty typical, and they’re also flag waving, country listenin’ retards (conservatives).
October 15th, 2006 at 12:32 am241 – Okay, shut the f*ck up. Now.
October 15th, 2006 at 12:36 amHey, did you notice how fast my post got deleted by TP…Well now I will post it the correct way…………………..
October 15th, 2006 at 12:38 amF# UCK YOU THINK PATHETIC, F# UCK YOU THINK PATHETIC, F# UCK YOU THINK PATHETIC…………..
Thanks for letting someone who should be either in Jail or in an institution somewhere,,,on the site, well if you want to let this go, I can go there to the next level……
look hellpig, you need to get it together. Yes we are a bunch of Liberals but what is your point… Yes we ripped on you, but only because you were being an ass… None of Us have hated anyone including you up until now… If you want to cross that line then it’s your game for now on…..
October 15th, 2006 at 12:42 amSo, let me guess… are you the impersonator?
October 15th, 2006 at 12:46 amso are you the total f#cking retard that has been impersonating everyone “LiberalLicker”?
October 15th, 2006 at 12:49 amWhere did you go,,,,, little hoe…The classic,,,”LiberalLicker” vanishing point…I knew it…
October 15th, 2006 at 12:54 am#251 point taken… but you got to understand that sh!t gets thrown around a lot here…and honestly, I apologize for ripping on your spelling especially when I’m not the best speller in the world….so, yes they ripped on you, but be more precise with your points instead of just hating us all here alright…we’re pretty cool and who knows maybe you are too…but we’ll never know if we keep going this route…you be cool and we’ll be cool, agreed….?
October 15th, 2006 at 1:00 am255 – That’s something losers say.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:06 amWhat do you want?
October 15th, 2006 at 1:12 amI need you to stop because I am concentrating on shoving this dildo in my ass
Comment by Yeti_Steve
Oh damn, I totally said that *sarcasm*. How old are you? Twelve? Thirteen? Alright, this thread is dead to me.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:14 amSo, I guess f#cknuts is gone… now that he wrecked the tread…
October 15th, 2006 at 1:17 amSo what do we want to do about this in the future?
At TP it seems that we do nothing except somehow, make it worse by doing D!ck…
Alright, this thread is dead to me.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:20 amComment by Yeti_Steve — October 15, 2006 @ 1:14 am
So,,, you allow a punk Beotch to steal the thread and then cry and wipe your pants AFTER he leaves…
Your worthless too….
258 – We could do what Kos does, and have the names password protected. It’s pretty simple, but very effective.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:23 am261 – I think responding and making such a big fuss only encourages him. But you’re right, I suppose. If we draw it out the admin has a greater chance of paying more attention and doing something to put a stop to it.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:26 amWell the Tumbleweeds are rolling again and Think Progress has many issues that have to be dealt with and soon…………
October 15th, 2006 at 1:37 amI don’t know who is running the show at the top of this Site but they need to get it together with a lot of issues… here is my list…
#1) You cannot allow a flagrant kamikaze attack on a thread or the whole blog site in general by a person who feels the vindictiveness of a terrorist to come on to the site and threaten and vandalize the whole program. Hellpig/ Liberalhater did just that last night and patted himself on the back for wrecking the thread….
#2) Put the Font back the way it was, please
#3) Please do something about the lag time on the posts…. We are talking over each other like it’s a joke… If you need donations to the site let us know and we could probably work something out.
Look, I like the site a lot and have a good time here but the threshold is coming and people are losing their patience with THINK PROGRESS. Please don’t go the way of the failed sites, please, we do like it here…
#260 and #261 what the F#ck yeti… These people have to be dealt with up-front and squashed like f#cking bugs… how are you going to accommodate them? How are you not going to respond to someone who can wreck the thread anytime they please,,,,WTF???????
October 15th, 2006 at 1:41 amI have been posting at this particular blog for years now and “don’t respond to the trolls” does not work. If you don’t confront them and shine the truth on their lies, they do not go away. they stay and continue to post their lies.
Always face a troll head on and take them out.
ALWAYS.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:49 am265 – No, I was making a statement from the same perspective that alot of people see this whole issue from. Alot of people will turn tail the second they see sign of a troll, because there’s this rediculous sense of politeness among bloggers, and one of them is not feeding trolls. I’m with you on this, the reason I left originally was because I had to get some stuff from the store. I personally think that we need to flush these pieces of crap any time they feel the need to ruin a perfectly good topic of conversation.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:49 amwell since tp deletes posts instead of dealing with them i guess my #265 response is now directed at #’s 262 and #263,,,,wtf?
October 15th, 2006 at 1:51 am261 – I think responding and making such a big fuss only encourages him. But you’re right, I suppose. If we draw it out the admin has a greater chance of paying more attention and doing something to put a stop to it.
Comment by Yeti_Steve — October 15, 2006 @ 1:26 am
#265 what the F#ck is wrong with you,” no, I was making a statement from the same bla bla bla bla bla…”
We need to crush this a$$hole…
“If you don’t confront them and shine the truth on their lies, they do not go away. Comment by Spudge_Boy — October 15, 2006 @ 1:49 am”
October 15th, 2006 at 1:59 amTHIS IS NOT YOUR NORMAL BLOG THREAD A$$holes…. This f#ck threatened many of our friends her and disgraced us all….
So this is not your average incident, get it together…
270 – Dude, calm down. Jesus Christ, it’s just a f*cking website.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:02 am#268 calm down ya, your right it is a website and your thoughts and words are who you are and we just allowed some scumbag to disgrace our thoughts and minds; and our brothers and sisters; and our wives and husbands by some of the sh!t this puke just said…
October 15th, 2006 at 2:10 amThis is a turning point for me..
If you cant even have some dignity on a blog with your friends and loved ones than what’s the point….
AND I cant believe I have to remind you guys about this?
271 – Look, if you really want this crap to change, then do what people do. Stop wasting your anger, and start a petition for some change on the site, like better security, and different font yadda yadda. And if one of these clowns does get through somehow crush him like a bug, and encourage others to do the same. The people who run this site are interested in input from their readers, because it helps them improve the site and thus get more readers. Just try it out, and quit acting like we’re the enemy.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:15 amAlso, you are basically saying that it’s ok for a guy to say he wants to pack your fathers fudge in 1000 miles away? I think it is the same as saying it to your face… my personal favorite was,”Ren the only meat packing I will be doing is in your oldest son when he turns 18 …16 if you live in DC Comment by hellpig — October 14, 2006 @ 2:29 pm”
October 15th, 2006 at 2:18 amAnd I don’t have a kid and I’m extremely offended…. so am I still blowing this out of proportion?
271 – I agree, that’s way offensive, I was offended by alot of the crap that ass clown said. To be honest, if he were right in front of me when he said it, I would have thrown a punch. But the fact of the matter is, this is the internet, the cowards play ground. They do this stuff because they’re nerds with no friends, with alot of time on their hands, they say this stuff because they know they can get away with it. So the only I can do is find a way to not let them get away with it anymore, and i think the thing I suggested would be a step in the right direction.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:26 amYeti, WTF,, who said I was looking at you like the enemy?
October 15th, 2006 at 2:28 amNow I am..because of your lame ass go get a petition speech, Is that the best you got? my favorite part is the yadda yadda part…
wow, you are some hunk of cheese..
“Wasting my anger?” I wasn’t angry until this d!ck disgraced us all,,,,,And now I’m even more angry that you are minimizing it…..
The people who run this site are NOT interested in input from their readers, otherwise they would have changed from all the writings myself and others have listed to them….
“Just try it out and quit acting like “we’re the enemy” If I thought you were the enemy, then why would I be so outraged that someone is attacking you?
Fine Ren, what’s your plan of action then?
October 15th, 2006 at 2:32 am#272 wow, you would have thrown a punch,,,hummmm,, and I would have ripped your face off.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:36 amIf that guy said that to me, I don’t know what I would do honestly, I don’t even want to know what I would do. I said it before, I can take it but,,,, if you f#uck with anyone I care about or respect than all bets are off, I cannot be held responsible for my actions….
The plan of action is that “everyone” bypass think progress and form contractual pact and that we will either drop the post and reform somewhere else(#1) and or(#2) shut that Mother F#ucker down…. we all have to agree on that otherwise it’s pointless. We have to defend each other weather in person or the blog. I will make a list once I thought it out but I’m just so pissed and sick and on Nyquil and more beers than I care to say… I’m sorry if I’m “over reacting” but that sh!t doesn’t flush with me…
October 15th, 2006 at 2:43 amOh, Nyquil and beer? How are you still awake? I would be so asleep right now.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:46 amThese delays are pissing me off soooooo much. TP needs a better server. I think I’m just taking things out of context. Just to clear things up, I understand why you’re so furious, and because he didn’t say anything worse than putting a…toy up my ass, to me, I’m no where near as pissed as you are. I’m not trying to minimize anything you say, I’m just throwing ideas out there. I’m pretty new to TP, so I have no idea what the admins are like.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:54 am#253
October 15th, 2006 at 2:55 amI have a life and you are not worthy of my talentsAnother thread completly owned by HELLPIG
Comment by LiberalKiller — October 15, 2006 @ 12:57 am
If Hellpig had a life he wouldn’t have spent hours in front of a computer masquerading as people saying some of the most out of line things.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:58 amThis problem isn’t going to go away, and the nearer to the election we get, the more of it we’ll experience. Not just TP, but other major blogs. I wouldn’t doubt that there’ll be disruptions planned.
October 15th, 2006 at 3:00 amPerhaps if the management doesn’t want to to anything about it, we could do as they do on the carnival with pushy locals: an online version of “hey Rube!”
October 15th, 2006 at 3:08 amDo you all like that pricks sign-off, hope you do because there is more to come from this one I can just tell..
October 15th, 2006 at 3:16 amIf you want to help me change the site for the better, I just set up a hotmail accout for just this ren9tt@homail.com
Please lets stop it before it starts, email me and I’ll take your serious suggestions
Good idea, you should post it at the top of every blog you can to get more peoples attention.
October 15th, 2006 at 3:20 amoh wait,,, am i violating anything by posting an email address?
October 15th, 2006 at 3:21 amhonestly, what should be happening is that there is a cool person on shift to monitor this stuff…hello?
October 15th, 2006 at 3:27 amLook the site is free so there is only so much to expect. I’ll send them a couple of bucks extra to do the job they are supposed to be doing… what the hell?
I hope not. It might be seen as an advertisement. You could try making a website were people can write their suggestions and it dumps into the email address. I dont’ know how to do that, though. Oh, and be prepared to have the address swamped by freaks like HellPig.
October 15th, 2006 at 3:28 am“But barfly,” you might ask,” what’s a ‘hey, Rube!’”
A “hey Rube” is a call for help – to be answered whether you are sleeping, eating, or screwing. It is only used when carnies (or circus workers) are attacked by someone from outside the group.
If a Hellpig appears (one that has stolen names, in effect, plagiarising individuals’ identities), they should be hounded from the site, or at least forced to curb their third grade outbursts by blanketing them with a barrage of negative noise. A name-stealer has forfeited any right to discussion, and has attacked the group; if TP won’t do it, perhaps we must.
October 15th, 2006 at 3:36 am#288 yetti,,, no sh!t,, My first email will be his sorry ass i already know that…. websites? im not on that either I got some friends that can help me though…I would want an email that dumps into a website in this case if Tp will get upset at me posting my site here…
October 15th, 2006 at 3:38 amYeti– You are a very good Human Being, I take back any of the foul things that passed your way obviously and I have to pack it in cause I’m f#ucking wasted… good night and see you tomorrow. chin-up…
292 – Well schucks. Thanks for the niceness. You’re a good man. You’ll have to tell me why you took NyQuil and beer. Tell me about it tommorow. My idea for the website is like the one they had on TP for mail bombing that douche on Fox news to demand some truth from Condi, but yeah, no clue how to do it. I’ll conspire with you tommorow. Hope you sober up well :)
October 15th, 2006 at 3:45 am#291 Barfly, you have my attention!!!!! I was just about to go to bed but lay it on me brother…
October 15th, 2006 at 3:46 amThis guy will pick up on that,”hey rube” eventually you’ll see “hey rube” all over the damn place.
I like the hounding the guy Idea, that is where I was going…. Basically hunt him down and off the site, but the imposter thing is like the Ceylon thing in “Battlestar Galactica” or whatever, terrorists, Insurgents…There is no real way to defend unless you run the site and can delete his posts at the very least… and on and on…
I’m going to bed after all….night all…. sugar plumb conspiracies danced in their heads……
October 15th, 2006 at 3:51 am#293 Yo, Spellpig,,,,I just took a fat dump, thanks… Nighty Night A$$HOLE….
October 15th, 2006 at 4:11 amP.S. come to NY and we’ll hook up….punk ass little hoe…
#6:
Hypocrisy is hypocrisy. Your use of a past event to justify EX-Rep. Foley meets that standard. I was not aware of the “Fact” you quoted, but obviously you were. What did you do or what have you done to ensure that Pedophiles of whatever political strand are not molesting any child?
Why do you bring up your information in the manner that you do? The obvious is that you want to somehow justify Mr. Foley’s actions or that of the Republican Party leadership in attempting to hold on to their precarious majority. Both fail dismally. Do not attempt to take the high road when your postulations foundations are built on sand.
I agree, whoever the Democrat who sexually molested is just as guilty as Mr. Foley, if in fact he did engage in “sick” sex with minors. The difference is that the politician, perhaps only known to you and the Spin-masters of Mr. Foley’s party, is that perhaps and hopefully now the average voter is tired of being duped by the likes of our politician.
Sins of the past are best taken care of by God. Sins of the present need to be cured by the public at large. I beseech you to join with any person, regardless of their political disposition, and help to at least make a dent in the overall Hypocrisy of the current politicians. Send a clear message that WE are not satisfied with the Status Quo. Make a clear statement that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!
October 15th, 2006 at 8:54 amNice fricken thread destruction here, don’t mind the wreckage. The guy who was using everyone elses name, should be deleted. His IP is consistent, right TP?
October 15th, 2006 at 11:50 amFrank Rich dismembers the gay bashing line in the Sunday NY Times, pointing out that nearly all of the GOPers who beat the drums in opposition to same-sex unions et al have openly gay operatives in their offices and campaigns. In fact, the real question is how these operatives can be either so obtuse, naive, or hypocritical in working for the election of creatures that use them and their sexual orientation as a scary boogeyman everytime it looks like they might be slipping in the polls. I guess there’s always someone dumb enough to believe Lucy will hold the football in place.
GF
October 15th, 2006 at 1:21 pmHmmmmmmm, those numbers are down from the pre-Foley scandal. Seems only the gay community was hurt by the association of gays with pedophiles that progs pushed in the first moments after this scandal broke.
October 15th, 2006 at 3:24 pmToo many Americans have their own pedophiles in the family and know, for certain, it’s not a gay thing.
October 15th, 2006 at 3:28 pmYou guys who are complaining about the size of the font–don’t you know that you can press control while turning the mousewheel and make the font any size you want?
October 15th, 2006 at 3:53 pmHellpig, you’re such a dumb ass.
October 15th, 2006 at 4:55 pmHmmmmmmm, those numbers are down from the pre-Foley scandal. Seems only the gay community was hurt by the association of gays with pedophiles that progs pushed in the first moments after this scandal broke.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
Jason,
Hastert will lose his leadership position, we will also retake the Senate, and both Bush and Cheney will be impeached.
Get used to saying “President Pelosi” – and enjoy the coming Watergate/, Iran/Contra -style barbeque.
October 15th, 2006 at 5:29 pm#291 Barfly, you have my attention!!!!! I was just about to go to bed but lay it on me brother…
This guy will pick up on that,â€hey rube†eventually you’ll see “hey rube†all over the damn place.
I like the hounding the guy Idea, that is where I was going….
Ren
By forming an informal minuteman -type response. When a piggie pops up stealing names, we jump from thread to thread warning others of a morphing name-stealer in the house – and to ignore flamers while piggie gets banned. Isolate him like a virus, posting wherever he does with warnings to others of his name-stealing nature. If we tie up all the threads for simply doing TP’s job for them, perhaps TP will decide to monitor it more closely in the future.
Now this is a nuclear option: to be used ONLY on name-stealers.
October 15th, 2006 at 5:40 pmJust to bring the record into line: Gerry Studds was found to have had consensual sex with a page. After this was discovered a Democratic Congress was presented with a motion of censure. I think it was Tip O’Neil that made the motion. The motion passed 402 to 3.
Rep. Studds stood and faced the speaker as the censure was read, as is the proper protocol.
So there were three Democrats that put party above principle. Not a bad ratio actually.
Now let’s see the ratio with Foley. Hmm, there doesn’t seem to be any overt action at all. Just sweep it under the ever more bulging rug and hope that it goes away.
October 15th, 2006 at 6:32 pmFoley does not represent Republicans – he represents the gays. Look at the Gay organizations that encourage young teens to be sexually active and to experiment with gay sex with older men. Gay literature encourages and glamorizes gay sex between teens and older men. Gay organizations lobby to redefine the “age of consent” so gay men can be having sex with younger teens. Yes, Mark Foley represents a bigger problem – the sexploitation of our young by the gay agenda.
October 16th, 2006 at 12:32 amThe Foley issue isn’t a gay issue? Really? Two of my brother’s were sexually abused by gay men (one by a priest who gave him drugs). Gay men abusing adolescent boys is one of the truly scary problems parents of male children face.
And you wonder why parents don’t want their children around gay scoutmasters and teachers? To say that there is also heterosexual child abuse does NOT change the dynamic between gay men and adolescent boys. Gay men are drawn to adolescent boys – period. They always have been.
Back to congress: gay Rep. Barney Frank himself hired a young male prostitute, and Frank’s lover was busted for running a male prostitution ring out of Frank’s house!!
I am the mother of boys. My children will have exposure to gay men when they are old enough to understand the risks and to throw a strong right hook.
October 16th, 2006 at 4:48 amNot typical for Homosexuals, not even for Pedophiles. Typical of Sexual Predators of all preference flavors…
October 16th, 2006 at 6:11 amProblem is this is a male problem and it never changes because we literally let men get away with murder…..as a lesbian i have had. do not put me in the gay male section,i dont want nothing to do with men sraight or gay who cant admit there faults………and people die because of their egos and so many dont want to say anything afraid that rush will call them that dirty f word well people they do that because they are wimps and dont want to admit their faults. they walk around shirtless like they are the bomb…. the fact is they arethe bomb that will destroy us all if they cant admit their faults and stop destroying everything we have come to know as loving, happiness, peace and so much more. go ahead and yell at me you will only do that because i struck a nerve….and to all those men out their who are true men that have come to the er of their ways and changed them for the betterment of their familys and friends…. thank you gentleman…. i am proud to give respect and honor for your courageous ways that other men call wimpy because your suppose to have raw male power to be a real men…. and to all you mothers do you really want your little boys to grow up to be like this? i should hope not men are grand human beings with an an huge amount of potential this world needs but first……..you have to admit you are desroying us with your too agressive ways
October 16th, 2006 at 10:34 amI have nothing against homosexuals I think everyone should have one hanging on their fence.
October 16th, 2006 at 4:56 pm