Bolton Refuses To Rule Out Military Action Against North Korea
Bolton Refuses To Rule Out Military Action Against North Korea
Last week in response to North Korea’s nuclear test, President Bush stated:
The transfer of nuclear weapons by North Korea to states or non-state entities would be considered a grave threat to the United States and we would hold North Korea fully accountable for the consequences of such action.
Today on ABC’s This Week, host George Stephanopoulos asked U.N. Ambassador John Bolton if Bush’s statement meant the United States would use military force against North Korea. Bolton replied, “No.”
But Bolton quickly backtracked on his answer. Bush has referred to another country as a “grave threat” just one other time during his presidency. In Jan. 2003 he called Iraq a “grave threat to peace.” Shortly after that statement, the Bush administration invaded Iraq. When Stephanopoulos pointed out this fact, Bolton retracted his earlier answer and said, “Well, I’m not going to speculate on what our response might be to something like that.”
Full transcript below:
STEPHANOPOULOS: The President was also very active publicly the day after we learned of the North Korean test. He went into the Roosevelt Room, I believe it was, and laid out a very stern warning. Here it is.
BUSH [VIDEO]: The transfer of nuclear weapons by North Korea to states or non-state entities would be considered a grave threat to the United States and we would hold North Korea fully accountable for the consequences of such action.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Crack the diplomatic code here. When a president calls something “a grave threat,” that means that action will be met by a military response, correct?
BOLTON: No, what the President has said repeatedly is that he seeks a peaceful and diplomatic solution to the problem posed by North Korea’s pursuit, not only of nuclear weapons, but of chemical and biological weapons and ballistic missiles and other means of delivering them, and by rallying the international coalition that he has leading to this 15-0 vote in the Security Council yesterday, he’s made it clear that he’s going to do what he can through economic and political pressure to isolate North Korea and to deprive them of the means and technology they need to pursue those programs, and as well, to work with China and others to get North Korea to do what Libya did, to see that they’re really much safer giving up the pursuit of nuclear weapons than continuing to go after them.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But Mr. Ambassador, I went back and checked and from what we’ve been able to tell, the President has used that formulation, “grave threat to the United States,” only once before in his presidency. It was in January of 2003 and he was referring to Iraq. Two months later we invaded. Is it the policy of the United States if North Korea transfers nuclear material that that transfer will be met by a military response?
BOLTON: Well, I’m not going to speculate on what our response might be to something like that. I think higher authority will make whatever response is appropriate.
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October 15th, 2006 at 11:31 amWhat’s a poor Bolty supposed to do?, the two-toned look he has, was supposed to be enough.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:39 amI’m still remembering that incident where Bolton threw a stapler at some staffer. Nice guy.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:44 amIf he won’t rule it out, then I will, at least for now. The chicken hawks are too busy invading countries that DON’T have weapons but DO have something else!! In less than two weeks we will see that start of Operation Iranian Liberation. Of course they won’t call it that, but those of us who aren’t swillin the Kool-Aid see right through their garbage.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:44 amThe IKE STRIKE battle group among others have been deployed to Iran and will arrive on Oct 21. I think there is a distinct possibility of an attack.
Goper’s Lament
October 15th, 2006 at 11:46 amJohn “Got Milk?” Bolton looks like Captain Kangaroo’s evil twin. The bozo is a mealy-mouthed moron — well-suited to be a star in the constellation of GDumbya’s administration.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:51 amThankfully, we will begin to make strides in neutralizing these Keystone Kops in 2007 with a Democrat-controlled Congress. It’s about time that the adults were once again in charge. The past six years have been a total and abject failure.
This is why clothing is dangerous. If we all walked around naked, not only would people take better care of their bodies, but we’d be able to see which politician wannabes have miniscule genitals - and therefore, that as a result, know that they are not suited for elected office…
To make it fair, we could give them all a discount on a Ferrari or a Corvette to appease their need to compensate… In the long run, it would cost us much less both financially and in terms of human casualties…
October 15th, 2006 at 12:08 pmI refuse to rule out that Bolton is a total dipsh*t.
I think I’m cured of my Bolton/mustache issues. :)
October 15th, 2006 at 12:11 pmI think I’m cured of my Bolton/mustache issues. :)
Comment by Zooey — October 15, 2006 @ 12:11 pm
Whew… :)
October 15th, 2006 at 12:13 pmWhew… :)
Comment by unbelievable
If you want to go after him, I wouldn’t be upset. I’m being so mature about this, don’t you think?
October 15th, 2006 at 12:18 pmThe media is already freaking out about North Norea as if they are doing anything even remotely competant. They can’t get their missiles out of their own country - how exactly is that supposed to terrorize us? If Japan and China aren’t worried about the fallout enough to go beat him up, why are we, half a world away, so upset? (rhetorical question)
My guess is that if things continue as they have, Kim Jong Il will be the only possible casualty to his inept military program.
October 15th, 2006 at 12:51 pmIf you want to go after him, I wouldn’t be upset. I’m being so mature about this, don’t you think?
Comment by Zooey — October 15, 2006 @ 12:18 pm
Not if he were the last man on earth… Ugh!
October 15th, 2006 at 12:53 pmBolton is absolutely the wrong man in the UN at this critical time. He is tactless, he humiliates other leaders, he is bellicose, and thereby potentially dangerous. He can’t be confirmed by the Senate, but Bush will appoint him in a “deputy” slot and keep him there anyway.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:06 pmWe need diplomats, statesmen, and knowledgeable people who can defuse this problem; instead we have a stand-in for the cowboy president - and we all know how his “diplomatic skill” is viewed in the world.
There is virtually no oil in North Korea, so there is no interest by Bush and Halliburton to stick their noses in that part of the world… Soon after stealing the 2000 Presidential Election, Bush started his campaign of demonizing two oil-rich countries in the Middle East; he had to toss in a third country to fool folks into thinking that he wasn’t just lusting after oil-rich countries, and the third leg of his “axis of evi” was either going to be Paraguay, Micronesia or North Korea, so he chose North Korea. After that initial demonization of the “axis of evil” countries, he threatened to invade or bomb North Korea. After these provocations, the North Koreans would be totally crazy not to arm them selves with a few nukes for self-defense…
October 15th, 2006 at 1:28 pmCheers.
james,
North Korea started arming themselves with nukes when Clinton was president, you ignoramus.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:32 pmYeah, let’s nuke ‘em. Go, John, Go!!!
October 15th, 2006 at 1:33 pmGot Milk?
October 15th, 2006 at 1:33 pmyou ignoramus.
Comment by NoPropaganda — October 15, 2006 @ 1:32 pm
When they have no facts, the neocon trolls just insult and run… How childish.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:37 pmThe Norks had nukes before Bush was president, that is a fact unbelievable, you ignoramus.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:39 pmjames,
October 15th, 2006 at 1:40 pmNorth Korea started arming themselves with nukes when Clinton was president, you ignoramus.
Comment by NoPropaganda — October 15, 2006 @ 1:32 pm
You mean trying to get together some sort of wanna be program,,,Because they weren’t even able to enrich under Clinton,,,you know that right?
“Because they weren’t even able to enrich under Clinton”
Yes they were, and they did.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:42 pmThe Norks had nukes before Bush was president, that is a fact unbelievable, you ignoramus.
Comment by NoPropaganda — October 15, 2006 @ 1:39 pm
So did we.
The point is that North Korea didn’t TEST their nukes or threaten anyone while Clinton was diplomatically handling the situation.
Besides, so what if Clinton did or didn’t do anything. It has NOTHING to do with what Bush is doing.
Do you have anything othet than really immature insults or useless ‘blame Clinton’ talking points? Cause if not, I’m gonna go do something more interesting than read your rude and ignorant commentary.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:49 pm“So did we.”
Comparing the US to North Korea? But don’t question your patriotism, right?
“The point is that North Korea didn’t TEST their nukes or threaten anyone while Clinton was diplomatically handling the situation.”
But they developed toward the point of being ready to test while he was president. They were cheating while Clinton was “handling it.”
Bush is working with the UN and taking a multilateral approach, precisely the path advocated by the Democrats.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:55 pm“So did we.”
Comparing the US to North Korea? But don’t question your patriotism, right?
“The point is that North Korea didn’t TEST their nukes or threaten anyone while Clinton was diplomatically handling the situation.”
But they developed toward the point of being ready to test while he was president. They were cheating while Clinton was “handling it.”
Bush is working with the UN and taking a multilateral approach, precisely the path advocated by the Democrats.
The fact is, you partisan clowns will attack Bush no matter what he does.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:56 pmComparing the US to North Korea?
You don’t? But don’t question your sanity or intellect, right?
But don’t question your patriotism, right?
Patriotism? Invisible boundaries are asinine. I don’t define myself by them. Only shallow people who decide others can control their skin color, gender, and origin of birth give a flying freak about ‘Patriotism’. All that pledging allegiance to flags has you confused about what matters. Invisible borders isn’t it.
But they developed toward the point of being ready to test while he was president. They were cheating while Clinton was “handling it.â€
Again - they DIDN’T shoot any. That’s how you judge a crime. By whether or not one was committed.
Should we arrest you because you keep a loaded gun in your house? I mean you did load it…
Bush is working with the UN and taking a multilateral approach, precisely the path advocated by the Democrats.
Comment by NoPropaganda — October 15, 2006 @ 1:55 pm
Calling someone a member of an axis of evil, and then proceeding to attack the name you called just before you mentioned their’s isn’t diplomacy - no matter how hard you try to spin it…
October 15th, 2006 at 2:03 pmThe fact is, you partisan clowns will attack Bush no matter what he does.
Comment by NoPropaganda — October 15, 2006 @ 1:56 pm
I voted for Bush in 2000. It’s him and his actions that you can thank for me voting for Kerry and becoming an advocate against the Bush Regime.
If he did what was right, we would give him credit. It’s not our fault that he hasn’t done anything right since taking office, and that now, the majority of the country do not approve of him either.
Face it - you are in the minority here, and you can’t stand it, so you insult us to feel better about yourself. Pathetic really.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:06 pmI’m pretty certain that NoPropaganda = wwallace.
Speaking to him is an utter waste of time, because he is an irrational high school boy who has no friends and gets off on being obnoxious. I’m not sure he actually believes the crap he spouts - just wants attention.
You’ll get no more from me - I have other things to do that aren’t pointless.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:08 pmNo decent human being would compare North Korea to the US.
“Again - they DIDN’T shoot any. That’s how you judge a crime.”
That’s simple-minded drivel, to suggest the planning and development is irrelevant.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:10 pmunbelievable, no doubt a Gerry Studds Democrat, wishes I was a high school boy.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:12 pmNK began cheating on their nuclear program in 1999; when Bush came into town, he vowed that whatever Cliton was doing anywhere was exactly the opposite of what he would do anywhere. So, NK was ignored for a year, then labeled an axis of evil and its leader was called a pygmie.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:20 pmNot unlike OBL, who was ignored, the Cole matter not pursued, and OBL was allowed to escape at Tora Bora.
I don’t know where NoPropaganda gets his info, perhaps he is the old wwallace reincarnated. He talked big but seldom has anything quite straight.
“NK began cheating on their nuclear program in 1999; when Bush came into town”
Bush took office January 2001, moron. LOL
October 15th, 2006 at 2:21 pmI guess you don’t understand punctuation.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:28 pmEveryone knows Bush was (s)elected in 2000; it doesn’t need to be restated except in the case of semi-literate readers.
Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush (41) will sell NK anything they want on the black market as they’ve violated US and UN sanctions in the past.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:29 pmUnlike Marie, I understand the difference between “1999″ and 2001. LOL
October 15th, 2006 at 2:30 pmBush has a limited capacity to wage war wiht NK at this point. Invasion is not realistic (1.2 million active duty well trained soldiers) as our military is currently very occupied (no pun, oh well, ok, pun intended).
October 15th, 2006 at 2:39 pmSo air strike capacity is all we really have, nukes or not.
Bush, being lousy at so many things, is also a bad poker player.
I’d love to have him sit in at our regular poker gig, we’d skin his ass alive.
The Norks had nukes before Bush was president, that is a fact unbelievable, you ignoramus.
Comment by NoPropaganda — October 15, 2006 @ 1:39 pm
1989-2001
* 1989: Soviet control of communist governments throughout Europe begins to weaken and the Cold War comes to a close. As the USSR’s power declines, North Korea loses the security guarantees and economic support that had sustained it for 45 years.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:56 pm* Through satellite photos, the U.S. learns of new construction at a nuclear complex near the North Korean town of Yongbyon. U.S. intelligence analysts suspect that North Korea, which had signed the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT) in 1985 but had not yet allowed inspections of its nuclear facilities, is in the early stages of building an atomic bomb.
* In response, U.S. pursues a strategy in which North Korea’s full compliance with the NPT would lead to progress on other diplomatic issues, such as the normalization of relations.
* 1992: In May, for the first time, North Korea allows a team from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), then headed by Hans Blix, to visit the facility at Yongbyon. Blix and the U.S. suspect that North Korea is secretly using its five-megawatt reactor and reprocessing facility at Yongbyon to turn spent fuel into weapons-grade plutonium. Before leaving, Blix arranges for fully equipped inspection teams to follow.
* The inspections do not go well. Over the next several months, the North Koreans repeatedly block inspectors from visiting two of Yongbyon’s suspected nuclear waste sites and IAEA inspectors find evidence that the country is not revealing the full extent of its plutonium production.
* In an interview on the Daily Show with John Stewart, former Secretary of State James Baker let it slip that North Korea “…had a rudimentary nuclear weapon way back in the days when I was secretary of state, but now this is a more advanced one evidently.†He was Secretary of State between 1989 and 1992.
* 1993: In March, North Korea threatens to withdraw from the NPT. Facing heavy domestic pressure from Republicans who oppose negotiations with North Korea, President Bill Clinton appoints Robert Gallucci to start a new round of negotiations. After 89 days, North Korea announces it has suspended its withdrawal. (The NPT requires a 90-day notice before a country can withdraw.)
* In December, IAEA Director-General Blix announces that the agency can no longer provide “any meaningful assurances” that North Korea is not producing nuclear weapons.
* 12 October, 1994: the United States and North Korea signed the “Agreed Framework”: North Korea agreed to freeze its plutonium production program in exchange for fuel oil, economic cooperation, and the construction of two modern light-water nuclear power plants. Eventually, North Korea’s existing nuclear facilities were to be dismantled, and the spent reactor fuel taken out of the country.
* October 1997: the spent fuel rods were encased in steel containers, under IAEA inspection. [5]
* 31 August, 1998: North Korea launched a modified Taepodong-1 missile in a launch attempt of its KwangmyÅngsÅng satellite. US Military analysts suspect satellite launch is a ruse for the testing of an ICBM. [6] This missile flew over Japan causing the Japanese government to retract 1 billion in aid for two civilian light-water reactors
The Norks had nukes before Bush was president, that is a fact unbelievable, you ignoramus.
Comment by NoPropaganda
Country
Warheads
United States
10,455
Russia
8,400
China
400
France
350
Israel*
250
United Kingdom
200
India**
65
Pakistan**
40
North Korea***
8
TOTAL
20,168
Asterisks explained
* Israel has a policy called “nuclear opacity” or “nuclear ambiguity,” which consists of refusing to confirm or deny that it has nuclear weapons at all. In 1986, however, whistle-blower Mordechai Vanunu, an Israeli nuclear weapons worker, published pictures of nuclear weapons facilities in Israel. Today, experts agree that Israel has between 100 and 300 warheads (and Israel doesn’t deny it).
** India and Pakistan both admit (boast?) that they have weapons, but are cagey about how many. Estimates for India run from 40 to 90 and for Pakistan from 30 to 50.
*** North Korea is anybody’s guess. At the end of 2003, U.S. intelligence experts were surmising it had three bombs, but four months later they tentatively raised their estimate to eight. They also said North Korea is geared up to build about six bombs a year from here on out.
In short, there are now some 20,000 fully operational nukes pointed at someone in this world.
AND YOU ARE BEDWETTING FOR JUST 8 SUPPOSED NUKES FROM NORTH KOREA? You really are a stupid.
October 15th, 2006 at 3:20 pmNo decent human being would compare North Korea to the US.
No, of course not.
US: 180 + landings and occupations. NK: 0
US: 2 nukes over japanese civilians. NK: 0
US: invented terrorism. NK: adopted it
US: invented destabilization. NK: 0
US: Crushed democratic elected governments. NK: JUst theirs.
US: Took the Channel of Panama. NK: Dont.
US: destroyed Columbia with the war on drugs. NK: Dont.
US: Killed 600,000 iraqis. NK: none
US: Has Kissinger, Negroponte, Truman, Bush I and II as genocides. NK: Just Kim and his father.
Shall I go on, a-hole?
October 15th, 2006 at 3:27 pmNo decent human being would compare North Korea to the US.
Wrong - no decent human being would hold himself to a higher morality when he himself has 3000 nukes. Hypocrite.
That’s simple-minded drivel, to suggest the planning and development is irrelevant.
Comment by NoPropaganda — October 15, 2006 @ 2:10 pm
Hardly. But, considering all you offer is simple minded drivel - you can’t recognize coherent and intelligent logic.
The truth is that planning and development are not crimes - which is what you suggested.
I just punched a hole in your silly little argument, and all you can do is insult me in retrun. Shows you have nothing.
unbelievable, no doubt a Gerry Studds Democrat, wishes I was a high school boy.
Comment by NoPropaganda — October 15, 2006 @ 2:12 pm
I’m not a Democrat at all. Wrong yet again…
You’re right - you’re no high school boy - they are far more mature and coherent. Calling you one is insulting to them.
October 15th, 2006 at 4:06 pmShall I go on, a-hole?
Comment by Juan+C — October 15, 2006 @ 3:27 pm
I like your response the best… Touche!
October 15th, 2006 at 4:11 pmI like your response the best… Touche!
Comment by unbelievable
Rarely…I have my moments. :)
October 15th, 2006 at 4:15 pmIf you want to go after him, I wouldn’t be upset. I’m being so mature about this, don’t you think?
Comment by Zooey — October 15, 2006 @ 12:18 pm
I like it when people are behaving maturely.
October 15th, 2006 at 4:15 pmI like it when people are behaving maturely.
Comment by ForTruth
It’s new for me, so I like to practice. :)
October 15th, 2006 at 4:19 pmI’m sorry, I just can’t take anything John Bolton says even with a gazillion grains of salt. It’s not because he’s an neocon hack, an administration put-up job, an incredibly narrow-minded fool (just read anything he “wrote” in the Wall Street Journal in the 90s), or a raging idiot — though he is surely all of that and more.
No, I can’t even look at him because the bottom line is he looks just like Hitler with a slightly fuller moustache.
And I just can’t get past that. Every time I see his face I hear, “Springtime for Hitler in Germany!”
October 15th, 2006 at 4:39 pmEvery time I see his face I hear, “Springtime for Hitler in Germany!â€
Comment by Hemlock for Gadflies
Doesn’t everyone?
October 15th, 2006 at 4:45 pm#44 I think of the movie”Gummo” when I see bush…
October 15th, 2006 at 5:14 pmJuan,
The US invented terrorism? Only a mental patient would say such a thing.
The Japanese bombed Pearl harbor, they started he war, we finished it appropriately.
The US built the Panama Canal, then gave it to the Panamanians.
The US has not killed anywhere near 600,000 Iraqis.
The US has never committed genocide.
Yes, you may continue spewing bigoted anti-American lies. Proceed.
October 15th, 2006 at 5:22 pmRen,
GWB has turned this country into Xenia, OH.
October 15th, 2006 at 5:30 pmDidn’t Wolfowitz tell him there’s no oil…?
October 15th, 2006 at 5:33 pmJuan,
Only a complete idiot would say the US invented terrorism. You’re a complete nutjob.
The US acted appropriately in WW2 in bombing Japan, who started the war.
The US has not killed anywhere near 600,000 people in Iraq. That’s complete nonsense.
Yes, please go on showing what total lunatics and anti-American bigots you crazed lefties are.
October 15th, 2006 at 5:35 pmunbeleivable,
Since there’s nothing immoral in and of itself about having nuclear weapons, what is your point, you seditious nut?
October 15th, 2006 at 5:36 pmOnly a complete idiot would say the US invented terrorism.
Comment by No_Propaganda
You are confused. You think terrorism is an arab full of C-4. Wrong. Read the definition. I will help you with that. Terrorism is “the calculated use of violence or threat of violence to attain goals that are political, religious, or ideological in nature…through intimidation, coercion, or instilling fear,†typically targeting civilians. You might want ask Guatemala, Chile, Grenade, Iraq, Vietnam, West Timor, Haiti, Panama, Nicaragua, etc. who invented terrorism. I have a question for you, does Cuba have a military base in US soil? No. Why is Okinawa used as a US base? Are Okinawans running a military base in US? No. Are Paraguay, Brazil and Argentina planting bases in US soil? Then why is US planting bases there? Yeah, no terrorism there, jackass.
The US acted appropriately in WW2 in bombing Japan, who started the war.
The war was started by Germany. US decided not to intervene against Germany, remember? And just after Pearl Harbor, which was an attack against A MILITARY FACILITY, not against civilian population (you may think Hollywood depicts true historical facts); they decided to engage against Japan in the Pacific Sea and to send troops to Europe. By the time, US detonated the bomb, the war was already over, the russians defeated Japan in Manchuria. The bomb was a statement to Russia.
The US has not killed anywhere near 600,000 people in Iraq. That’s complete nonsense.
A team of American and Iraqi public health researchers has estimated that 600,000 civilians have died in violence across Iraq since the 2003 American invasion, the highest estimate ever for the toll of the war here.
How many more dead people do you need, a-hole? You are completely discredited with your “leftists” rant. You havent the slightest clue of what the left is. Do yourself a favor. Shut up.
October 15th, 2006 at 6:02 pmwhat is your point, you seditious nut?
Comment by No_Propaganda
Take a deep breath and give up. You have nothing.
October 15th, 2006 at 6:05 pmJuan,
You’re essentially defining any military action by the U.S. as terrorism, which is pure idiocy on a grand scale. You’re obviously motivated by little more than anti-American bigotry.
“A team of American and Iraqi public health researchers has estimated that 600,000 civilians have died in violence across Iraq since the 2003 American invasion, the highest estimate ever for the toll of the war here.”
This is a bogus study, obviously, but even it does not support your claim that they were killed by the U.S., liar.
October 15th, 2006 at 6:34 pmThis is a bogus study, obviously, but even it does not support your claim that they were killed by the U.S., liar.
Comment by The-Truth
Im going to rephrase it, idiot: The invasion of Iraq by US has killed 600, 000. I havent said: every dead civilian iraqi was killed by an american soldier. But, every dead civilian iraqi after 2003 is the result of the US invasion. Before that, every dead iraqi civilian was the result of Saddam Hussein. What a team they both do!
You’re essentially defining any military action by the U.S. as terrorism, which is pure idiocy on a grand scale.
October 15th, 2006 at 6:46 pmTell me one that does not follow the definition of terrorism. Im not anti-American. I like brazilians, argentinians, chileans, panamanians, columbians, mexicans, peruvians, canadians, US citizens, etc. Im anti-abuse. Of any kind. US has a long, long history of abusing other people (and its own, also) for its “interests”. So, better start looking at your own mistakes and then call me whatever you want cause I couldnt care less what a murder-supporter has to say.
Since there’s nothing immoral in and of itself about having nuclear weapons, what is your point, you seditious nut?
Comment by No_Propaganda — October 15, 2006 @ 5:36 pm
That was your ridiculous point, not mine. Forget already? Not surprised. You’re not very bright, or nice. And I’m sure that that anti-depressant/vodka combination that you ingest regularly doesn’t help matters any.
I’d bet the ranch that I’m saner than you.
October 15th, 2006 at 6:50 pmI couldnt care less what a murder-supporter has to say.
Comment by Juan+C — October 15, 2006 @ 6:46 pm
Which isn’t anything coherent anyway…
October 15th, 2006 at 6:52 pmI decided to comment here because anti-depressants and vodka were mentioned. Where do I sign up for that.
After looking at Bolton again, I’m gonna need it.
October 15th, 2006 at 7:50 pmTruth,
Just don’t look too long at the mustache — it’s mezmerizing…
October 15th, 2006 at 7:56 pmZooey,
And don’t even consider watching the video of the talking mustache, its creepy.
October 15th, 2006 at 8:02 pmTruth,
I wouldn’t do that to myself, OMG! That weird sort of high voice feels glass in my spinal column.
October 15th, 2006 at 8:11 pmI decided to comment here because anti-depressants and vodka were mentioned. Where do I sign up for that.
Comment by ForTruth — October 15, 2006 @ 7:50 pm
Any place Republican. They need it to cope with their materialistic and shallow lives. IRI used to reference his own cocktail on a regular basis. I thought he was kidding at first, but after a while, it was too much to be a joke…
October 15th, 2006 at 8:27 pmunbelievable,
We aren’t against peaceful democracies with nukes, we’re against totalitarian states and supporters of terrorism having nukes. The US is the former, North Korea is the latter. You are a drooling moron.
October 15th, 2006 at 9:34 pmJuan,
The US has a long, long history of liberating and defending other people.
October 15th, 2006 at 9:35 pmChicken hawk Bolton, you are truly evil.
October 15th, 2006 at 9:43 pmWe should all chip in and get a little army together for little Johnnie so he can carry out this “military action” . Only if he leads the troops, though.
64. The U.S. is former and latter methinks.
October 15th, 2006 at 9:45 pmMore on 64.
October 15th, 2006 at 9:48 pmHow many in this room think that the U.S. is a peaceful democracy today?
The US has a long, long history of liberating and defending other people.
Comment by TheTruthShallSetYouFree
Whether they wanted it or not…
October 15th, 2006 at 10:02 pmHow many in this room think that the U.S. is a peaceful democracy today?
Comment by tablogloid
Not me.
October 15th, 2006 at 10:02 pmWe aren’t against peaceful democracies with nukes, we’re against totalitarian states and supporters of terrorism having nukes. The US is the former, North Korea is the latter.
Prove it… From the way heir Bush is running the show, there’s nothing peaceful about our government’s actions. Or did you miss the last three and a half years of war on Iraq? Did you fall asleep in history classes? We’ve used WMDs against other countries. North Korea has not. Clearly, peaceful doesn’t apply to our government.
Tell me, who is North Korea invading?
You are a drooling moron.
Comment by TheTruthShallSetYouFree — October 15, 2006 @ 9:34 pm
From the name change, it seems that you were banned. Seems the only drooling moron around here is you.
October 15th, 2006 at 10:02 pmThe US has a long, long history of liberating and defending other people.
Comment by TheTruthShallSetYouFree — October 15, 2006 @ 9:35 pm
Prove it. You can’t, because we’ve already proven the opposite.
Here it is again:
Year Country Action Reason Given Actual Reason
1947 France Election Finance;
Economic Coersion Communism Wanted pro-USA government and French recolonisation of Vietnam.
1947 Italy Election Finance;
Economic Coersion Communism Wanted pro-USA and pro-business government.
1947 Greece Military Backing Communism Wanted pro-USA government and military bases.
1947 Philippines Election Finance None Military bases.
1948 Peru Military Backing None Control of government.
1948 Vietnam Military Backing Communism Support for French recolonisation. Fear of independent Vietnam.
1948 Nicaragua Military Backing None Pro-USA government and access to plantations.
1949 China Arms Sales;
Bombing Communism Access to a pro-USA and pro-business government.
1950 Colombia Food Aid Humanitarian Destruction of an agricultural rival.
1950 Korea Killing Civilians None Unknown.
1950 Puerto Rico Military Action None To crush independence movement.
1953 Philippines Election Finance None Wanted pro-USA government and military bases.
1954 Vietnam Military Backing Communism Fear of united and powerful independent country.
1955 Europe Election Finance None Wanted united pro-USA, pro-NATO and anti-socialist Europe.
1956 Egypt Sanctions Communism Country took ownership of its Suez Canal and opposed USA Middle East policy.
1957 Jordan Military Training None Wanted strong pro-USA government.
1958 Lebanon Military Action None Removal of anti-West dissidents.
1958 Indonesia Election Finance None Government is against USA business interests.
1958 Japan Election Finance None To keep pro-USA governments in power.
1959 Haiti Military Action None To crush rebellion against pro-USA government.
1959 Nepal Covert Action None To help pro-USA government win power.
1960 Congo Assassination None Wanted to remove popular and nationalist leader; access to minerals.
1960 Cuba Trade Embargo Communism Country using its resources for its own people.
1960 Iraq Destabilisation None Leader founds and supports OPEC.
1961 Cuba Secret Invasion None Country using its resources for its own people.
1961 Dominican Republic Assassination None Unknown.
1962 Vietnam Military Action Communism Country wanted unity and independence.
1962 Cuba Economic Sabotage None Country using its resources for its own people.
1962 Brazil Election Finance None Wanted pro-business government.
1962 Dominican Republic Political Coersion None Unknown.
1963 Iraq Assassination;
Intelligence Communism Previous government against USA oil interests; removal of dissidents.
1963 El Salvador Advisors Communism Removal of anti-USA dissidents.
1964 North Vietnam Bombing None Removal of independent government.
1964 South Vietnam Torture Training Communism Suppression of independence movements.
1964 Panama Military Action Law and Order Suppression of movement demanding return of canal.
1965 Vietnam Military Action Communism To keep the country from uniting.
1965 Dominican Republic Intervention Communism To keep elected leader from returning to power.
1965 Indonesia Intelligence Communism Removal of dissidents. Helping a pro-business regime.
1965 Laos Destabilisation;
Bombing Communism Denial of support for Vietnam.
1965 Thailand Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government; military bases.
1965 Peru Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1966 Vietnam Village Clearing;
Bombing Communism Political control of the country.
1966 Laos Bombing None Denial of support for Vietnam.
1966 Central Africa Finance None Access to uranium.
1966 Bolivia Election Finance None Access to minerals and oil.
1967 Vietnam Military Action Communism Political control of the country.
1967 Cuba Assassination None Removal of popular leader.
1968 Vietnam Village Clearing;
Bombing Communism Political control of country.
1969 Cambodia Secret Bombing None Denial of support for Vietnam.
1969 Vietnam Military Action Communism Political control of country.
1970 North Vietnam Bombing None Control of country.
1970 Uruguay Torture Training None To keep opposition from taking power.
1970 Oman Military Assistance None Unknown.
1971 Laos Invasion None Control of country.
1971 Vietnam Military Action None Control of country.
1972 North Vietnam Blockade;
Bombing None Control of country.
1972 Nicaragua Troops Business interests Support for business and pro-USA government.
1972 Australia Election Finance None Did not like Labour Party foreign policy.
1972 Iraq Aid to Kurds Humanitarian To destabilise Iraq as it had a quarrel with USA ally, Iran.
1973 Cambodia Bombing None Control of country.
1974 Vietnam Trade Embargo Communism The Vietnamese were winning against the USA.
1974 Zaire Military Aid None Control of resources.
1974 Portugal Election Finance None Did not want socialist government to take power.
1975 Vietnam Economic Attack Communism To stop country developing as a model for the region.
1975 East Timor Support of Invasion None Did not want a new independent state; oil.
1975 Iraq Change of Support None Kurdish rebels no longer of use.
1975 Morocco Support of Invasion None Morocco grants use of military bases in return.
1976 Indonesia Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1976 Philippines Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1977 Pakistan Military Aid None Support for unelected pro-USA government.
1977 Egypt Economic Coersion None To remove Egypt from the anti-Israel camp.
1977 Zaire Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1977 Indonesia Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1978 Guatemala Military Aid;
Economic Aid None Support for unelected pro-USA government.
1979 Iran Habouring Dictator None New government wants control of its resources, especially oil.
1979 Central Africa Economic Aid None Support for pro-business government.
1979 Afghanistan Military Aid Repel USSR To repel USSR and break their economy.
1979 Cambodia Aid to Khmer Rouge None To please new ally China; to antagonise Vietnam.
1979 Vietnam Economic Blockade Communism To stop country developing as a model for the region.
1979 Yemen Military Aid None To please ally, Saudi Arabia.
1980 El Salvador Military Aid Communism Stop opposition to pro-USA government.
1980 Honduras Troops Communism Protect resources and create anti-Nicaragua bases.
1980 Iraq Military Aid Islamic Iran Wanted to destabilise new anti-USA government of Iran.
1980 Cambodia Military Aid None To destabilise Vietnamese backed government and to please new ally, China.
1980 Italy Terrorism None To discredit socialist election candidates and to heighten fear of the USSR.
1980 South Korea Military Aid;
Political Support None Suppress opposition to pro-USA government.
1981 Tanzania Economic Coersion Communism Wanted the country to change its economy to suit USA companies.
1981 El Salvador Military Aid Communism Stop opposition to pro-USA government.
1981 Libya Provocation Terrorism To destabilise an anti-West government.
1981 Indo-China Economic Coersion Communism To stop the independent development of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.
1982 Lebanon Troops Humanitarian To help Israel remove Palestinians.
1982 Guatemala Military Aid None To suppress opposition to pro-USA government.
1982 South Africa Financial Aid Terrorism To help South Africa destabilise the region.
1982 Afghanistan Military Aid Communism To replace USSR backed government by the USA backed government.
1982 Iraq Military Aid Islamic Iran To support Iraq’s war against the anti-USA government of Iran.
1983 Lebanon Troops;
Bombing Peace Keeping To ensure pro-USA factions won the civil war.
1983 Nicaragua Blockade;
Arming Rebels Communism To replace government with pro-USA regime.
1983 Zimbabwe Economic Coersion None Government had too independent foreign policy.
1984 Mozambique Economic Coersion Communism To stop support for democracy in South Africa.
1985 Lebanon Car Bomb Assassination To remove anti-Israel and anti-USA dissidents.
1985 New Zealand Economic Coersion None Country backed nuclear free Pacific.
1985 Chad Military Aid;
Financial Aid None Support for non-elected pro-USA regime.
1985 Honduras Military Aid;
Training Communism To destabilise elected government of Nicaragua.
1986 Nicaragua Military Aid Communism To destabilise elected government.
1986 Libya Bombing Terrorism To destabilise the country.
1987 Iran Provocation Terrorism To destabilise the country.
1988 Iran Provocation Terrorism To destabilise the country.
1988 Iraq Military Aid Islamic Iran Support for Iraq in its war against Iran.
1988 Colombia Military Aid Drugs Support for pro-USA government.
1988 El Salvador Military Aid Communism Support for pro-USA government.
1988 Turkey Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1989 El Salvador Military Aid Communism Support for pro-USA government.
1989 Panama Invasion;
Diplomatic Violation Drugs To ensure control over the Panama Canal.
1989 Cambodia Military Aid None To destabilise Vietnamese backed government and to please China.
1989 Libya Provocation Terrorism To destabilise the country because it is anti-USA and pro-Palestinian.
1990 Nicaragua Election Finance Communism To ensure that a pro-USA government was elected.
1990 El Salvador Military Training Communism Support of the pro-USA government.
1990 Guatemala Military Aid Communism Support for the pro-USA government.
1990 Bulgaria Election Finance Communism Did not want a socialist government in power.
1990 Germany Document Theft None Unknown.
1991 Iraq Invasion;
UN Violation;
Sanctions Free Kuwait To ensure that Iraq became less powerful.
1991 Philippines Disinformation None Military bases.
1992 Somalia Invasion Humanitarian To ensure that a pro-West government took control.
1992 Colombia Military Aid Drugs To remove anti-USA elements.
1992 Albania Election Finance Communism Did not want a socialist government in power.
1992 Angola Military Aid Communism Wanted access to oil and diamonds.
1993 Iraq Bombing UN Violations To ensure that Iraq does not flood the oil market, lowering the price.
1993 Cuba Trade Embargo Communism Country using its resources for its own people.
1994 Haiti Troops;
Document Theft Democracy To ensure that a pro-west government is elected.
1994 Jordan Financial Aid Humanitarian To obtain agreement with Israel’s view that Palestinian refugees do not have a right of return.
1994 Colombia Military Aid Drug Trafficking To suppress opposition to pro-USA government.
1995 Turkey Military Aid None To keep a pro-USA government happy while it attacks Kurds.
1995 Iraq Sanctions;
Bombing UN Violations To ensure that Iraq does not flood the oil market, lowering the price.
1995 Mexico Military Aid Drug Trafficking To crush opposition to USA business interests.
1995 Iran Sanctions Terrorism Country using its resources for its own people.
1996 Iraq Sanctions;
Bombing UN Violations To keep the country weak and to destabilise the government.
1996 Mongolia Election Finance Communism To help elect a pro-USA government that would allow electronic monitoring of China.
1997 Rwanda Military Aid None Support for pro-West government.
1997 Iraq Sanctions UN Violations To replace the government with one that is more pro-West.
1998 Afghanistan Bombing Terrorism To destroy terror camps built by the USA to fight the USSR and now suspected of being used against the USA.
1998 Iraq Sanctions;
Bombing UN Violations To replace the government with one that is more pro-West.
1998 Sudan Bombing Terrorism Unknown.
1998 Turkey Military Aid None Support for pro-USA NATO country.
1998 Guatemala Military Aid None Suppression of opposition to pro-USA government.
1998 South Korea Food Aid Humanitarian To make the country dependent on USA produced food.
1999 Yugoslavia Bombing Humanitarian European business interests.
1999 Iraq Bombing UN Violations To destabilise independent Arab regime.
1999 Guatemala Military Aid None Suppression of opposition to pro-USA government.
2000 Israel Military Aid;
Economic Aid;
Political Support Terrorism Support for a strongly pro-West country in the Middle East.
2000 Kyrgyzstan Financial Aid Humanitarian To gain influence in oil rich Central Asia.
2001 Colombia Military Aid Drug Trafficking To protect USA oil companies from dissidents.
2001 China Provocation Communism To obtain secrets and intimidate independent country.
2001 Israel Military Aid;
Economic Aid;
Political Support Terrorism Support for a strongly pro-West country in the Middle East.
2001 Iraq Sanctions;
Bombing UN Violations To replace the government with one that is more pro-West.
2001 Afghanistan Bombing;
Invasion Terrorism To replace the government with one that is more pro-West.
2002 Afghanistan Bombing;
Invasion Terrorism To gain influence and control over oil rich Central Asia.
2002 Angola Intelligence Terrorism To remove their no longer needed former client.
2003 Iraq Invasion Banned
Weapons To gain control of oil rich country and impose a government friendly to the USA.
Peaceful, huh?
October 15th, 2006 at 10:07 pmSorry for the lengthy post above, but it was necessary to prove the point that the US is NOT peaceful.
Here’s the link:
http://www.krysstal.com/democracy_whyusa02.html
October 15th, 2006 at 10:09 pmYou’ve got to be kidding me… You’re deleting facts?
Later…
October 15th, 2006 at 10:15 pmOkay - now it’s back…
That FBI wiretapping software is really screwing with TP’s website….
October 15th, 2006 at 10:17 pm#48 -
You’re the one who is an idiot!
The only one of these you got right was the first. The United States did not invent terrorism, but our government has learned how to use it to their advantage.
As to the others:
The Japanese did bomb Pearl Harbor but, it was also known that Emporer Hirohito was in the process of brokering a surrender with us when we dropped fat man and little boy on them. The sad (and scary) truth is that we dropped those bombs because we wanted to know what they would do. Regardless, incinerating tens of thousands of Japanese civilians was hardly an appropriate response to their attack of a military installation. Note Oppenheimers, now famous, quoting of the Tibetan Book of the Dead after seeing what he had wrought in Hiroshima and Nagasaki: “I am become death; destroyer of worlds”
The United States did not build the Panama Canal alone (The French actually began the project). We held the lease on the canal (which we fought having to give back tooth and nail) and completely cut the Panamanian government out of the money for MANY MANY years. This is not to mention what we did in foisting Manny Noriega on their poor people but I digress.
The United States may not have directly killed 600,000 Iraqis but epidimeologists (sp?) from John’s Hopkins University and an Iraqi aid organization (I forget which one) recently submitted a heavily peer-reviewed report stating that 600,000 more Iraqis have died since 2003 than would have if we had not attacked Iraq. Face it, Iraq is a meatgrinder of epic proportions and, perhaps, the single largest foreign policy blunder in our nation’s history.
The US was founded using genocide. Our ancestors took blankets infested with small pox from hospitals and sold them to the Mohawk, the Lakota and other tribes (as did my ancestors the French). Thousands of native Americans (including entire tribes) were killed in our conquest of this great and beautiful land we now call home.
Oh, and before you try to tell me that I’m un-American for knowing my history. I’m not proud of any of these facts but they are our history. I am a veteran, a patriot, and an adept student of history. You are obviously none of the above.
October 16th, 2006 at 1:00 amhey a**hole john ” recess appointment ” bolton !!
here’s an idea for you since you ‘ cannot rule out military action ‘ - you go over there and do some ‘ military action ‘ bullsh*t and we’ll watch you in action from back here - you miserable chickenhawk piece of sh*t ….
October 16th, 2006 at 3:55 amgreen,
Americans killed Indians, Indians killed Americans. People die in wars, on both sides. There was no genocide. You don’t know history, you do know how to regurgitate anti-American leftist talking points.
October 16th, 2006 at 10:45 amunbelievable #11
…the Korean people have a strong sense of “face”…
…One of my best friends in service was a former Korean Rock Marine…
…once, a colleague called himself horsing around with this former Rock Marine and the jokester raised his foot (so that the bottom of his foot was in the Rock Marine’s face)…
…the Rock Marine became enraged and proceeded to head butt the jokester to the tune of a several stitch scar over his eye…
…we had to pull the Rock Marine off of him…
…apparently (we all learned later) it is a terrible insult to show a Korean the bottom of one’s feet…
…I relate this story ONLY to illustrate the cultural difference between us and the Koreans…
…a Korean expert and professor from (I forget what university) was recently interviewed on CNN, and asked whether or not we should be alarmed by the recent actions of the NK…
…the professor without hesitation opined that the North Koreans have and will use whatever physical military measures at their disposal if they feel threatened…
…in other words…
…Kim Jong Il ain’t bullsh*tting…
October 16th, 2006 at 2:19 pmTheTruthShallSetYouFree
October 16th, 2006 at 4:24 pmYou are almost not worth debating, green917, gives a thoughtful and historically correct answer and you off handedly say “Pfff, people die in war….war is hell, blah, blah, blah.” So smug in your, I can’t even say retort because it’s baseless and brainless. Ever hear of manifest destiny? How about the slave trade? We didn’t terrorize a whole race of people? Actually 2 races? I’ll go green917 one further, the white european race has been the most genocidal race in the history of the world. And I’m a cracker! Know your history before you just toss off like a moron. It’s not anti-American to know that your country has faults, it’s being a grown up. You love America like a 3 year old loves it’s mother, if anybody says anything bad about mommy, they are bad. Grow up for god’s sake.
…Kim Jong Il ain’t bullsh*tting…
Comment by big+papa — October 16, 2006 @ 2:19 pm
He ain’t competent either. That would be kinda like being afraid of a snarling chihuahua who wants to bite your throat - but can’t.
October 16th, 2006 at 4:56 pmYou America hating clowns! The people who are you’re real enemies, the Radical Muslims, who would kill you first for all your Secular Progressive beliefs, never get a mention by any of you. It’s ALWAYS Bush’s falut and you aim you poison toward our country & leader.
Becuause of you liberal panzie whinings, we lost in Vietnam and now the radical Muslims are loving the fact that you are helping their cause with all your U.S. bashing. They are praying for a big Dem victory in Nov because you will vote as the French would and pull out, giving those rat bastards Iraq on a silver platter. This is why you will see a huge spike in attacks over the next few weeks. They are trying to influence the outcome of OUR elections.
We are not fighting the Iraqi’s, we are fighting the Iranians IN Iraq but the Left Wing press hasn’t the balls to say it.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:23 pm#82. if bush did not illegally invade iraq, americans wouldn’t be fighting iraq’s or iranians in iraq.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:33 pmyour president is the closest thing i have seen to a talking chimp, actually the chimp may be able to put a sentence together without screwing up.
god doesn’t bless america.
Once again I prove my point… You hate America!
Move to France you Hippie! These are tough times and a lot of nasty folks want all of us dead for we do not live up to the teachings of the Koran that a small group of radical Imams have bastardized.
Oh yea, God Bless America!
October 16th, 2006 at 8:38 pmBolton Refuses To Rule Out Military Action Against North Korea
Er…. yeah.
I seem to recall about a week ago you critical of Bush for not negotiating with NK and repeatedly referenced Clinton threatening them with military action as something which had (at least the appearance of) a positive effect on NK as a nuclear threat.
What’s the idea ? You want Bush to negotiate with NK without a military option ? Really WTF is the point of you posting this ? The implied suggestion appears to be you think it is somehow a bad move not to rule this out at a time when it has never before been more important to have a military option taken seriously by NK.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:23 amOooooh…Homer Simpson called us hippies, and America haters. You hurt me deeply. Listen up Homer, you go ahead and keep being afraid of the boogey man and cowering behind the flag and Bush. Everytime I read one of your move to another country comments, I hear “The star spangled banner” in my head, the whole thing too, the flutes and single snare drum….It’s a real Bobby Van. Who’s Bobby Van you ask? He was the host of “Make me laugh”. Everytime I hear you neocons say the terrorists love it when we argue, it makes spit milk out of my nose, and that they are influencing the elections it’s hilarious.Who writes your stuff man? That is comedy gold! I don’t know if you’re old enough to remember the show MASH, but if you do, remember Frank Burns? Remember how Hawkeye and Trapper would ride him all the time because he was a dick? That’s how we see you neocon jerk offs. A bunch of flag waving, bible thumping weak chinned chickenhawk dicks. We wouldn’t be having these arguments if Bush even slightly resembled a competent leader.
“I’m the war President.” The guy’s a jerk off man open your eyes. If you want to blame someone, blame your administration, Or if it makes you feel better blame Clinton, cause that’s what you do, but Clinton didn’t get us into Iraq. Don’t blame Americans that are concerned about the fate of this country that is now being run by a bunch of war mongering Halliburton and Carlyle Group morons and then try and make us feel bad for not following in lock step with a “leader” that is turning the world against us and for what? What is our mission there? Do you think for one second the administration gives a rats testicle about your safety, if that were the case, they’d at the very least have instituted a couple of the recommendations of the 911 commision. If I’m wrong, answer this Captain America, why are all of the military and ex military either running against Repubs or resigning in disgust over what this administration is doing?
The fact is we still have the right to express opinions in this country for now, and while we still have that right, we will work for change, a change in the elections in a few weeks and another change in 2 years, and who knows how long it’ll take to get the rest of the world behind the US again instead of shunning us over the “bull in a china shop” foreign policy your administration has been practicing. I ain’t buying your we’re America haters first bs, it’s old my man get another tag line, oh and the French thing, that’s good too, get an original thought. I’ve heard that one a thousand times too. Try listening to a pundit, conservative talk host that doesn’t keep repeating the same things over and over again. Ferret Face.
October 17th, 2006 at 10:33 amre#48
If the US has never committed genocide, what do you think happned to the tens of millions of Native Americans, who were living here before 1776?
I guess in your mind, they all just decided to stop having children and kill themselves!
I guess in your mind destroying their hunter gather way of life, by separating them from their sources of food is not genocide!
October 17th, 2006 at 11:19 amunbelievable #81
i’m really surprised at your cursory dismissal of a man who has inherited (and managed to hold onto) power for decades…
…like other dismissive inbreds do to Fidel Castro…
…no SIMPLETON maintains the reigns of power of a nation…
…especially one as economically and socially battered as NK and Cuba have been…
…”incompetent” -though not a word I would use in describing Kim Jong Il-
may well satisfy the childish, churlish disposition of indignant Amerikkan nationalists…
…still the fact remains that NK possesses the power to push the Earth over the edge…
…let’s hope he’s a helluva lot MORE competent than the cray al Crackkkers in the White(man’s) House…
October 17th, 2006 at 3:11 pmOOPS that should’ve read
“crazy”
October 17th, 2006 at 3:12 pmhomely simpleton #82
I don’t hate America…
…I hate anti-American, TREASONOUS Bush-worshipping inbreds…
…like you…
Tank #85
The BEST thing al Cracker Bushites can do…
…is leave Kim Jong Il the fu*k alone!
…If you people don’t see the hypocrisy in Bushiva’s admonitions to the NKs (and Iranians) to drop their quest for nuclear weapons…
…and the fact that this HYPOCRISY has made them all the more resolute in their defiance…
…then prepare your dumb as8es and your childrens’ …
…for the ultimate confrontation…
…I have NEVER in my life seen IDIOTS like this Bush regime and their supporters…
…maybe you’ll FINALLY get your rapture…
October 17th, 2006 at 7:51 pmLess than 3 weeks until the mid-term elections and still no invasion of Iran?? Stay tuned. The October surprise is coming. The GOP control of Congress is slipping away.
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