Comments on: Hagel: ‘We Need To Find A New Strategy, A Way Out Of Iraq’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:34:48 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Wilma http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4654074 Wilma Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:19:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-4654074 <strong>Wilma</strong> Great things are not done by impulse, but by a series of small things brought together. Wilma

Great things are not done by impulse, but by a series of small things brought together.

]]> By: Baby Sling http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-4642210 Baby Sling Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:30:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-4642210 <strong>Baby Sling</strong> Your blog makes very interesting reading. I'm sure others will think so too I look forward to reading their comments. Baby Sling

Your blog makes very interesting reading. I’m sure others will think so too I look forward to reading their comments.

]]> By: Ruben http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-4302106 Ruben Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:08:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-4302106 <strong>Ruben</strong> All I can say is WOW! Extremely nice layouts, awesome graphics and great articles. No matter how many times I come here, I am still impressed by the very professional appearance. Congratulations on a job well done. Ruben

All I can say is WOW! Extremely nice layouts, awesome graphics and great articles. No matter how many times I come here, I am still impressed by the very professional appearance. Congratulations on a job well done.

]]> By: Think Progress » President Bush Fails to Put Iraq’s Leaders on Notice http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-998020 Think Progress » President Bush Fails to Put Iraq’s Leaders on Notice Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:51:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-998020 [...] Bush’s message to Maliki also ignores the advice from U.S. leaders from across the ideological spectrum — including Rep. John Murtha, Sens. Jack Reed, John Warner, Chuck Hagel to former Secretaries of State James Baker and Colin Powell — that staying the course is not an option and Iraq’s leaders need to take responsibility. [...] [...] Bush’s message to Maliki also ignores the advice from U.S. leaders from across the ideological spectrum — including Rep. John Murtha, Sens. Jack Reed, John Warner, Chuck Hagel to former Secretaries of State James Baker and Colin Powell — that staying the course is not an option and Iraq’s leaders need to take responsibility. [...]

]]> By: Think Progress » Snow on Iraq: ‘I Don’t Know’ If We Are Winning http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-995045 Think Progress » Snow on Iraq: ‘I Don’t Know’ If We Are Winning Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:26:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-995045 [...] Sen. John Warner (R-VA), one of President Bush’s staunchest allies, now says we are moving “sideways” and “backwards” in Iraq. Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) agrees and says we need to find a way out. [...] [...] Sen. John Warner (R-VA), one of President Bush’s staunchest allies, now says we are moving “sideways” and “backwards” in Iraq. Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) agrees and says we need to find a way out. [...]

]]> By: Solitaire http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-994427 Solitaire Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:45:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-994427 I predict that the POTUS will receive the recommendations from the committee just before the election, welcome them with open arms, pretend that he will support their recommendations to take the Iraq heat off of the GOP temporarily, then dump the recommendations immediately after the election. I predict that the POTUS will receive the recommendations from the committee just before the election, welcome them with open arms, pretend that he will support their recommendations to take the Iraq heat off of the GOP temporarily, then dump the recommendations immediately after the election.

]]> By: Jaded+Prole http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-994403 Jaded+Prole Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:34:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-994403 Both supported the "Patriot Act" and the <a href="http://jadedprol.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Military Commissions</a> act. Both are complicit in crimes against humanity and the death of our basic rights. Their second thoughts at this juncture does not undo the fact that they are traitors and enemies of the people. Both supported the “Patriot Act” and the Military Commissions act. Both are complicit in crimes against humanity and the death of our basic rights. Their second thoughts at this juncture does not undo the fact that they are traitors and enemies of the people.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-994318 Marie Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:02:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-994318 Hagel and Warner are moderates, but in the end, they are Republicans. They will present a moderate approach now because the election is near and the Iraq situation is worsening by the week. It will be interesting to see if they still talk the same after the elections. Warner is no intellectual, but he does have experience and influence in the Senate; Hagel will run for President. So right now each one has his own agenda - protect themselves and their Senate friends. If Bush loses his control on Capitol Hill, Bush will be the lamest of lame ducks and these guys and their friends will pay a price, so for now they are hedging and trying to appease those Republicans who might jump ship. Hagel and Warner are moderates, but in the end, they are Republicans. They will present a moderate approach now because the election is near and the Iraq situation is worsening by the week. It will be interesting to see if they still talk the same after the elections. Warner is no intellectual, but he does have experience and influence in the Senate; Hagel will run for President. So right now each one has his own agenda – protect themselves and their Senate friends.
If Bush loses his control on Capitol Hill, Bush will be the lamest of lame ducks and these guys and their friends will pay a price, so for now they are hedging and trying to appease those Republicans who might jump ship.

]]> By: CoffinsDrapedWithFlags http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-994153 CoffinsDrapedWithFlags Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:46:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-994153 Sadist George W Bush's plan: vacate Iraq by attacking Iran - just move the troops to a new front. Sadist George W Bush’s plan: vacate Iraq by attacking Iran – just move the troops to a new front.

]]> By: jon http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-994103 jon Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:32:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-994103 #39...you missed one. 101 should be, "declare victory and return home." #39…you missed one. 101 should be, “declare victory and return home.”

]]> By: pete http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-993817 pete Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:44:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-993817 so hagel doesn't want americans to be in the middle of an iraq civil war, the civil war the americans instigated. this speaks volumes about the lack of intelligence of the republicans, from the chimp, right on down the line. so hagel doesn’t want americans to be in the middle of an iraq civil war, the civil war the americans instigated.
this speaks volumes about the lack of intelligence of the republicans, from the chimp, right on down the line.

]]> By: F Preznit Chucklenutz http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-993336 F Preznit Chucklenutz Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:57:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-993336 <em></em><em>This guy is one dumb punk ass. He should just change parties now and become a Dumb-a-Crat@! Comment by RedNeck, REdState — October 15, 2006 @ 7:47 pm</em> Anybody else hear banjo music when reading this idgit's post? This guy is one dumb punk ass. He should just change parties now and become a Dumb-a-Crat@!

Comment by RedNeck, REdState — October 15, 2006 @ 7:47 pm

Anybody else hear banjo music when reading this idgit’s post?

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-993170 Jay Randal Mon, 16 Oct 2006 05:21:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-993170 If Hagel had real balls, then he would vote to cut off all funding for the Iraq fiasco, but he talks big then backs down when Karl Rove calls him up! Time to pull all the troops out and who cares what Bush wants > he can go straight to Hell! If Hagel had real balls, then he would vote to cut off all funding for the Iraq fiasco, but he talks big then backs down when Karl Rove calls him up! Time to pull all the troops out and who cares what Bush wants > he can go straight to Hell!

]]> By: james+k.+sayre http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-993147 james+k.+sayre Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:57:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-993147 "100 cheap and easy ways to get out of Eye-Rack" "The USA and the UK need to get out of Iraq now. Bush and Company seem to be snagged on just how to turn power over to the Iraqis. Here are some suggestions: 100 cheap and easy ways out of Iraq: Just do or say: "Abandon ship, About-face, retreat, Aloha, Apologize for overstaying one's welcome, and just leave, Auf weiderzahn, Au voir, Back out, Bail out, Beg off, Be Gone with the Wind, Blow it off, Blow the scene, Bow out, Break it off, Bring the troops home, Bug out, Butt out, Call a halt, Call it quits, Cancel plans, Cave in, Chalk it up to experience, Change the course, Chao, baby, Check out, Chicken out, Choke up, Clear out, Close up shop, Cop out, Creep away, <em>Cut and run</em>, Declare victory and come home, Depart, Desert the desert, Disentangle, Draw back, Drop out, Eat crow, Eat humble pie, Eat one's words, End this fool's errand, End this tomfoolery, Evacuate, Exit, stage far-right, Fail, Fall back, Flake out, Flee, Fly away, Fly the coop, Forsake, Get back, Get cold feet, Get out by sundown, Give up, Go away, Go fly a kite, Go jump in the lake, Good widdance to bad wubbish - (from Elmer Fudd cartoon), Got to get away, Hasta la vista, baby, Head for the hills, Hit the road, Homeward bound, Hurry home, It's all over but the shouting, It's all over now, baby blue, Just say no, Just walk away, "Leave, Let's call the whole thing off, Pack it in, Pick up your marbles and go home, Quit, <em>Rehire Saddam</em>, Relinquish control, Renounce imperialism, Retreat, Return home, Reverse the course, Sail away, Say good bye, Shut it down, So long, its been fun, Split, Stop, Stop rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic: abandon ship!, Surrender, <strong>Take a powder</strong>, Terminate the visit, Throw in the towel, Turn tail, Turn the lights out, Wilt under pressure, Wimp out, Wind down, Withdraw with honor, Yankee, come home". Yours truly, James K. Sayre “100 cheap and easy ways to get out of Eye-Rack”

“The USA and the UK need to get out of Iraq now. Bush and Company seem to be snagged on just how to turn power over to the Iraqis. Here are some suggestions: 100 cheap and easy ways out of Iraq: Just do or say:

“Abandon ship, About-face, retreat, Aloha, Apologize for overstaying one’s welcome, and just leave, Auf weiderzahn, Au voir, Back out, Bail out, Beg off, Be Gone with the Wind, Blow it off, Blow the scene, Bow out, Break it off, Bring the troops home, Bug out, Butt out, Call a halt, Call it quits, Cancel plans, Cave in, Chalk it up to experience, Change the course, Chao, baby, Check out, Chicken out, Choke up, Clear out, Close up shop, Cop out, Creep away, Cut and run, Declare victory and come home, Depart, Desert the desert, Disentangle, Draw back, Drop out, Eat crow, Eat humble pie, Eat one’s words, End this fool’s errand, End this tomfoolery, Evacuate, Exit, stage far-right, Fail, Fall back, Flake out, Flee, Fly away, Fly the coop, Forsake, Get back, Get cold feet, Get out by sundown, Give up, Go away, Go fly a kite, Go jump in the lake, Good widdance to bad wubbish – (from Elmer Fudd cartoon), Got to get away, Hasta la vista, baby, Head for the hills, Hit the road, Homeward bound, Hurry home, It’s all over but the shouting, It’s all over now, baby blue, Just say no, Just walk away,

“Leave, Let’s call the whole thing off, Pack it in, Pick up your marbles and go home, Quit, Rehire Saddam, Relinquish control, Renounce imperialism, Retreat, Return home, Reverse the course, Sail away, Say good bye, Shut it down, So long, its been fun, Split, Stop, Stop rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic: abandon ship!, Surrender, Take a powder, Terminate the visit, Throw in the towel, Turn tail, Turn the lights out, Wilt under pressure, Wimp out, Wind down, Withdraw with honor, Yankee, come home”.

Yours truly,

James K. Sayre

]]> By: African American Political Pundit http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-993128 African American Political Pundit Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:38:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-993128 [...] Source and Hat Tip Think Progress  [...] [...] Source and Hat Tip Think Progress  [...]

]]> By: African American (Black) Opinion http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-993124 African American (Black) Opinion Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:35:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-993124 [...] Source and Hat Tip Think Progress  [...] [...] Source and Hat Tip Think Progress  [...]

]]> By: WaltTheMan http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-993061 WaltTheMan Mon, 16 Oct 2006 03:18:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-993061 W has a small mind. To put it in perspective,, if you wanted to corner the market in tomatoes, W would take out all of the super markets in the country and then put up (substandardly constructed) stands that sell tomatoes all over. The people who formally had control of the super markets would get teed off and try to blow up the tomato stands. Net result is that no one has anything to eat and everyone is pissed off. That's Iraq today, but with a different set of commodities. W has a small mind. To put it in perspective,, if you wanted to corner the market in tomatoes, W would take out all of the super markets in the country and then put up (substandardly constructed) stands that sell tomatoes all over. The people who formally had control of the super markets would get teed off and try to blow up the tomato stands. Net result is that no one has anything to eat and everyone is pissed off. That’s Iraq today, but with a different set of commodities.

]]> By: ren http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-992994 ren Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:33:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-992994 <em>I heard both Mr. Hannity and O’Really talk about this particular website and thought ‘hey why not check it out and see if what they say is true or not’. RN Comment by RedNeck,+REdState — October 15, 2006 @ 8:13 pm</em> <strong>Well we all know who this guy is,,don't we?????????</strong> By going out of your way to come up with the excuse that your boys told you about this site is a kinda going out of your way to tell us you haven't been here before...nice one hellpig... I heard both Mr. Hannity and O’Really talk about this particular website and thought ‘hey why not check it out and see if what they say is true or not’.
RN
Comment by RedNeck,+REdState — October 15, 2006 @ 8:13 pm
Well we all know who this guy is,,don’t we?????????
By going out of your way to come up with the excuse that your boys told you about this site is a kinda going out of your way to tell us you haven’t been here before…nice one hellpig…

]]> By: orionATL http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-992947 orionATL Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:26:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-992947 chuck's running for president. all voters need to know is: where was he four years ago? chuck’s running for president.

all voters need to know is:

where was he four years ago?

]]> By: Erroll http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-992895 Erroll Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:18:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/hagel-out-of-iraq/#comment-992895 Strategic Redeployment is seriously flawed. Its authors contend that immediate withdrawal will "permanently destabilize Iraq", ignoring the report of the National Intelligence Estimate, which says that the presence of the United States is responsible for the growing violence in Iraq. As Nir Rosen, an independent journalist who has been in Iraq has stated, if the United States were to finally leave Iraq, the resistance fighters would have nothing to resist against. This study believes that a "smaller, nimbe force... is necessary "to train Iraqi security forces." There are already 300,000 trained Iraqis in the Iraqi military. What happened to the idea of standing down when they stand up? The authors also believe that American troops should be redeployed to "virtually zero by the end of 2007" which could then mean that anywhere from 500 to a 1000 more Americans could end up dead for a cause that has been determined to be decidedly less than noble. This study is ignoring the desires of the Iraqi people. A recent poll has revealed that a majority of Iraqis want the U.S. to stop occupying their country by withdrawing all its troops by the end of 2006. The bottom line is that Iraq does not belong to the United States. In order to save one more life, either American or Iraqi from dying unnecessarily, the U.S. should begin preparations to leave NOW and withdraw all its troops by the end of 2006. Redeploying those troops, to use Murtha's expression, over the horizon, is not going to demonstrate to the Iraqis that the United States has no designs to reenter that country if it so chooses. Strategic Redeployment is seriously flawed. Its authors contend that immediate withdrawal will “permanently destabilize Iraq”, ignoring the report of the National Intelligence Estimate, which says that the presence of the United States is responsible for the growing violence in Iraq. As Nir Rosen, an independent journalist who has been in Iraq has stated, if the United States were to finally leave Iraq, the resistance fighters would have nothing to resist against. This study believes that a “smaller, nimbe force… is necessary “to train Iraqi security forces.” There are already 300,000 trained Iraqis in the Iraqi military. What happened to the idea of standing down when they stand up? The authors also believe that American troops should be redeployed to “virtually zero by the end of 2007″ which could then mean that anywhere from 500 to a 1000 more Americans could end up dead for a cause that has been determined to be decidedly less than noble.

This study is ignoring the desires of the Iraqi people. A recent poll has revealed that a majority of Iraqis want the U.S. to stop occupying their country by withdrawing all its troops by the end of 2006. The bottom line is that Iraq does not belong to the United States. In order to save one more life, either American or Iraqi from dying unnecessarily, the U.S. should begin preparations to leave NOW and withdraw all its troops by the end of 2006. Redeploying those troops, to use Murtha’s expression, over the horizon, is not going to demonstrate to the Iraqis that the United States has no designs to reenter that country if it so chooses.

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