Chris Wallace Ignores 20,000 Emails Demanding He Ask Rice About The U.S.S. Cole
Chris Wallace Ignores 20,000 Emails Demanding He Ask Rice About The U.S.S. Cole
More than 20,000 people emailed Chris Wallace and demanded he ask Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice this question today:
Prior to 9/11, you had eight months to respond to the al-Qaeda attack on the U.S.S. Cole. Why didn’t the Bush administration take action and put al-Qaeda out of business?
Wallace didn’t ask the question or any question on the topic. It’s the twenty-fourth time Rice has been on Fox News Sunday since 9/11 without being asked about the U.S.S. Cole.
Last month, Fox’s Chris Wallace asked President Clinton why he didn’t respond to the Oct. 12, 2000 bombing of the U.S.S. Cole. He asked the question even though the “CIA and the FBI refused to certify that Bin Laden was responsible” until early 2001, which foreclosed the possibility of a full response during the Clinton administration.
Wallace claimed he asked the question of Clinton because “I got a lot of e-mail from viewers.”
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October 15th, 2006 at 10:13 amShame on you, Chris Wallace!
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October 15th, 2006 at 10:22 amYou poor sad little ‘man’ Wallace, You poor sad pathetic disgraceful wimp of a ‘man’, Put up his email again so we can write what we think of him, lets have an email protest letter send in now….
Christ his face is enough to make one puke look at it….last time I saw a face like that….it was being punched in by Bill Clinton.
Pathetic. Sad…..Pathetic
October 15th, 2006 at 10:23 amWallace is not an impartial newsman/journalist, he’s a Bush administration pimp. Watching him is almost as painful as trying to listen to a Bush speech. It’s impossible to stymie the autonomic reflex to spew chunks.
October 15th, 2006 at 10:28 amAsk Judd and TP why they reduced the font size for the thread posts? If you all say nothing, and do not complain, then TP will think you all like it, so they might reduce the font size till it vanishes completely?! The way it was before was easy to read, but now the posts are rendered less of importance! Complain or be sheep > bye all.
October 15th, 2006 at 10:31 amChris Wallace acting like a real journalist? Never!
October 15th, 2006 at 10:32 amI’m shocked! Shocked, I tell you, to find out there’s partisan pandering happening on the Fair and Balanced network!
October 15th, 2006 at 10:33 amQuit crying in your beer, you bozos.
One “talking points” memo from me trumps 20,000 emails from viewers, for God’s sake.
Condoleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezza and GDumbya need all the help they can get to keep them from coming off like a couple boobs. Neither one can tell the truth or justify their failed policies.
And I intend to give them as much help as I can.
October 15th, 2006 at 10:34 amBut there is a bit of GOOD news hidden in this. My Fox-watching mother, had insisted “but he was just asking what his viewers wanted.”
I told her that he wouldn’t ask Rice about this, if everyone in America emailed him to ask. She insisted that, “if Chris got 1,000 emails asking him to, I’m sure he would.” So I sent my email, cc’ed her, and I challenged her to send one, too, and ask him to ask the question. And she did.
Just now on the phone “so, did he ask?” “No, but after all, how many emails did he get. Yours and mine….” “And more than 20,000 others, mom, just counting the ones mailed through ThinkProgress — that doesn’t even count yours and mine.”
“Hmmmmm ….” “So, Mom, about Chris Wallace….” “Hmmmmmm …” I knew that particular “Hmmmmmmm” from my upbringing. It signals sever disappointment.
October 15th, 2006 at 10:38 amWallace is a compelte prick!
October 15th, 2006 at 10:39 amYou mean to say that Chrissy-Boy is a big ol’ HYPOCRITE, instead of the “professional, mild-mannered, respectful reporter” that Roger Ailes claimed him to be?
Shocking…..NOT!
October 15th, 2006 at 10:40 amI assumed the “technical difficulties” Condi was experiencing were an excuse to get her off-camera in a hurry…although part of me was expecting to see this exchage:
Wallace: Secretary Rice, many viewers have sent emails urging me to ask you why the Bush Admnistration never responded to the bombing of the USS Cole, even though it had at least 8 months to do so.
Rice: Well, Chris … BZZZZZT-CLK-CLK-CLK-CLK-BZZZZZT … and I believe that history will bear us out on that.
Wallace: Thank you, Secretary Rice, for that full and forthright accounting of events.
October 15th, 2006 at 10:41 amAt least Chris Wallace knows 20,000 people think he’s a flaming asshole. Not that he gives a shit.
October 15th, 2006 at 10:42 amKougar (#11) you are mistaken. Wallace is an incomplete prick.
October 15th, 2006 at 10:46 am@JAY RANDALL
True! font here WAY too small!
Also…. i hate Wallace.
October 15th, 2006 at 10:46 am#2 a protest letter is a great idea but it should go to Rupert, he’s the King at Fox. Soon he will realize that the conservative mchine is about done and will have to change the programming visa vie Clear Channel’s invovolment in progressive radio, what a turnaround.
Wallace is still licking his wounds from being schooled by Big Bill. It was not pretty on his part and he does not want to draw attention to that loss again. Besides, Condi had the questions days in advance, if it was on the list, she probably nixed it.
October 15th, 2006 at 10:49 amGet out of America Rupert Murdoch, go back to your prison hulk in Botany Bay ‘cobber’
October 15th, 2006 at 10:51 amJay Randal, get over the font size dude, it is what it is. You obviously don’t read Daily Kos, their font is even smaller.
October 15th, 2006 at 10:53 amMealey mouthed piece of crap!
October 15th, 2006 at 10:55 amWe can get satellite feeds from Mars but FOX News can’t get one from Camp David? Anyone seen Roger?
October 15th, 2006 at 11:13 amSorry, but my pessimistic attitude pays off once again, I knew the little peice of crap wouldn’t do it. He’s a biased, hacked up, shillly little man.
Heh.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:13 amObviously, Wallace is a Repugnant sympathizer. Given that he is on Faux that is hardly surprising. This makes his questions to Clinton another of the Rovian-Mhelman dirty tricks questions. What scum these people be.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:17 amThe terrorist love having the G(ay) Old Party in power….because they don’t really go after the real terrorists…they just launch wars to keep the military industrial complex from going under.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:20 amHey Ducktape, (#10)
If your momma hasn’t figured out Chris Wallace and Fox News by now she’s too stupid to get it anyway. Come about Nov 3 start hiding her alzheimers medicine and keep her ass at home!
October 15th, 2006 at 11:24 amI think we all knew Wallace was a fraud.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:25 amNobody bothers the Condiliar for fear her weak little provost’s voice will quaver and she will be caused to lie again.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:27 amHis father must be disgusted at his son’s lack of journalistic integrity.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:32 amWhen the Democrats win the house and senate back they ought to remember the treatment they got from Faux news and tell them to take a flying f*uck at the moon when they want interviews. Let’s see how they like it when the only outlets they interview with are NPR and The Nation.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:35 amChris Wallace is mesmerized by Condi and won’t ask her the tough questions. President Bill Clinton was correct… he knew that he was being set-up and he even challenged Chris Wallace and Chris squirmed in his seat and lied to Clinton and then said that President Bill Clinton was (paraphrased) “mean and angry and nasty etc… “
October 15th, 2006 at 11:36 amI knew that particular “Hmmmmmmm†from my upbringing. It signals sever disappointment.
Comment by Ducktape — October 15, 2006 @ 10:38 am
Way to go Ducktape! Keep up the good work. It is our cilence as liberals that has hurt us. And pointing out the hypocrisy can be done with respect, as you did.
I have been doing the same with my Republican relatives, and in 2004, my life-long Republican mother actually voted for Kerry. First time she ever vote for a Democrat. Now, she constantly bashes Bush and actually calls Congress ‘corrupt’.
I have one hold-out in my family – a brother who will never ever admit he is wrong. But, I know that he knows he’s wrong, so perhaps in the privacy of the voting booth, he might grow a conscience… especially now that he has two infant sons to think about.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:36 amProof positive of the ‘fair and balanced’ mantra of Faux News (yeah right). Proof positive Chris is nothing more than a right-wing hack, who will never be more than 1/10th what his father is.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:38 amJay Randal,
Just adjust the font size on your computer.
Simply go to ‘view’, then ‘text size’.
Mine is set on ‘larger’ and the font size here is same as it has always been. I don’t see a change.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:39 amAt least we now have concrete proof that FOX and Wallace are biased liars, instead of logic alone. And we need to remind the trolls about this every time they bring up their integrity. They have none.
Way to go TP, for establishing the scenario and gathering the proof. There is no way to spin this. But I’m sure it will be funny watching the neocons try…
October 15th, 2006 at 11:44 am“I got a lot of e-mail from viewers.â€
Somebody should have told Wallace that email from Foley doesn’t count!
October 15th, 2006 at 11:52 amAnyone who actually expected Wallace to ask The Pickaninny in chief a tough question,is delusional.He (Wallace)continually interupted Senator Kerry every time he started to give an in depth answer to his questions.Kerry should have taken a lesson from President Clinton.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:56 amThe ‘technical difficulties’ may have given Wallace and Condi a pass for now, but I’m sure he’ll have her back on to answer these questions on Nov 12.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:57 amUnbelievable and all, the font size is set by T.P. I did finelly change mine and it goes back with each thread…Still having trouble with the name problem they never fixed….Besides killing my eye’s double fixing is nonsense…..Nothing much to respond to any way and from the look’s of the foul troll’s on one thread from yesterday I have better thing’s to do…..Blessings all..Bye untill their is improvement’s.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:58 amSure there’s a way to spin this:
The Cole is old news. We’ve already discussed this before and the only reason to bring it up now is election-year politics.
Questions about the Cole are merely attempts to attack every decision a War-Time President makes, and it is improper to question the President when we are at war. Monday-morning quarterbacking and second-guessing is fine when you’re talking about football, but we’re at war and the President has countless tough decisions to make, prioritizing resources, directing attacks, just because it doesn’t appear that the Cole was high on the priority list doesn’t mean it was ignored. This all goes back to negative smear-tactics by a bunch of left-leaning liberals eager to find fault with anything the President does, or in this case, does not do. 9/11 changed everything.
Besides, everyone knows most sailors are gay. And gay sailors, being gay, were probably more interested in “other things” than maybe something important, like, say, protecting their ship from attack. Not that I’m accusing anyone, but you know how those gays are obsessed with sex. So this is really a failure of the Clinton Administration’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy which was Clinton’s method of recruiting more gays into the military.
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How’s that, Unbelievable? Did I cover all the bases?
October 15th, 2006 at 12:05 pmFont size, I have a slider on the left side of my keyboard labled “Zoom”. If I slide it up, the font size increases, down and it decreases. Actually, I have three keyboards with this feature.
October 15th, 2006 at 12:05 pmNo. Not surprised at all. Think Progress should keep the email link up so we can complain to FOX (Furor’s On Xanadu) everyday….constatntly, over-and-over again. Think Progress, what do you say about that?
October 15th, 2006 at 12:12 pmHa! Of course we are not surprised. Wallace is not a journalist, he is a hack. He hides behind others’ Emails in defense of asking his questions of Clinton, but he ignores EMails when his beloved Condi is in the chair. He is a coward, who can’t take responsibility for even his own questioning — he does the bidding of the party, of his boss, and his White House. Remember that after a “loving” father-son interview last year with his father, within months, he was claiming his father was senile and not to be taken seriously.
October 15th, 2006 at 12:14 pmWallace is a jerk.
How’s that, Unbelievable? Did I cover all the bases?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Damn, I hope that’s all of them…
October 15th, 2006 at 12:16 pm#39, In contrast to the “spin” that a Republican du jour would place on the Cole incident and Bush’s lack of follow up – this week we have McCain spinning the Korean nuclear event as a Clinton-result problem.
October 15th, 2006 at 12:19 pmThere is NOTHING that is the fault of GWB – everything is either irrelevant or Clinton’s fault.
Ohh Goddd… Ken Melman is on Wolf Blitzer CNN…
October 15th, 2006 at 12:20 pmHow’s that, Unbelievable? Did I cover all the bases?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — October 15, 2006 @ 12:05 pm
Hmmm… Okay, well, how about this:
Revision 1:
There is no logical way to spin this. But I’m sure it will be funny watching the neocons try…
October 15th, 2006 at 12:22 pmComment by unbelievable — October 15, 2006 @ 11:44 am
Sorry Sharon, the font size on my screen is the same as it has been since I upped it several months ago. Not sure why it is different for different people.
October 15th, 2006 at 12:24 pmTo change to font size all you need to do is hold down the Ctrl key on your keyboard while you roll your mouse wheel. Roll forward to reduce, roll backwards to increase. You can do this with most websites.
October 15th, 2006 at 12:26 pmhttp://www.poodlecrap.com/Hateliars/HL_Video1.asp?Part=0
October 15th, 2006 at 12:27 pmI emailed Wallace about the interview.
I wrote “Sad.”
October 15th, 2006 at 12:29 pmJay Randal,
October 15th, 2006 at 12:29 pmOne way to get the font size larger is to Upgrade from “Windows 95″ to something more current.. that might help…
Not to nitpick, but what Wallace said the e-mails he got said to ask President Clinton, “Why didn’t you do more to put bin Laden and Al Qaida out of business when you were president?”, not “why he didn’t respond to the Oct. 12, 2000 bombing of the U.S.S. Cole.” That was what President Clinton said he should ask people from the Bush administration. And besides, I seriously doubt that Wallace actually got all that many e-mails from viewers asking that. Maybe he got a lot of e-mail from the higher-ups at Fox, but not from viewers.
Anyway, I finally set up my own website to blog stuff. I invite everyone to come see it (click on my name.) I just started it yesterday, so there isn’t much. I hope to add to it as time goes on, and once I’m set up at home I can do more with it. Enjoy.
October 15th, 2006 at 12:31 pmFont Size: Depending on your browser, try “Ctrl +”.
Chris Wallace is one of Bush’s courtiers, nothing more. Congrats to TP for helping to document it.
Vote Democrat- its time to end the hysteria.
October 15th, 2006 at 12:38 pmThe media is already freaking out about North Norea as if they are doing anything even remotely competant. They can’t get their missiles out of their own country – how exactly is that supposed to terrorize us? If Japan and China aren’t worried about the fallout enough to go beat him up, why are we, half a world away, so upset? (rhetorical question)
My guess is that if things continue as they have, Kim Jong Il will be the only possible casualty to his inept military program.
October 15th, 2006 at 12:38 pmFont size~ You can always hold down the Ctrl key and move the wheel on your mouse (down).
October 15th, 2006 at 12:40 pmChris Wallace = chickenshit! -Kevo
October 15th, 2006 at 12:47 pm#52 – Yay Blogger Wayne!! Cool site! You’re perfect for this.
There’s got to be an easier way to leave comments, though. No matter how I try to sign up, it won’t let me. *sigh*
October 15th, 2006 at 12:51 pmSo now we know that Chris Wallace didn’t get any frickin’ emails asking him to ask Clinton sh*t, and we also know Chris Wallace is a lame-assed liar.
His daddy’s going to start wearing a paper bag on his head…
October 15th, 2006 at 12:52 pmBut everyone Fox is “America’s” news channel. It’s nothing more than a mouthpiece for this lame ass whitehouse. This week it was praising itself with a celebration of 10 wonderful years of fox news. I almost threw up.
This is funny. This is how the average Grand Ol Perv starts his day off. Enjoy.
Mitt Romney
And finally, this year marks the 10th anniversary of Fox News. To celebrate the occasion, Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney issued a proclamation last week “declaring Sept. 19, 2006 Fox News Channel Day throughout the state,” according to TV Newser. Oh, you lucky… Massachusans? Massachussites? Never mind.
So how is one supposed to celebrate Fox News Channel Day? Well, it’s simple really.
First, wake up at the crack of dawn and put on your Stars & Stripes sweatsuit. Eat a quick breakfast while watching Fox & Friends, then hop into your Hummer and head down to the local WalMart for a fresh supply of car flags. Spend the rest of the morning affixing said flags to your vehicle. Don’t forget to “pre-wear” the flags by rubbing them in a puddle of grease and ripping holes in them.
At noon, have lunch (falafel with a side of freedom fries) while listening to The Radio Factor.
In the afternoon, hold a fun Weapons Of Mass Destruction Hunt in your back yard. Your kids will play the part of U.N. Weapons Inspectors. Tell them that you’ve hidden “WMDs” full of candy in the back yard and send them out to track them down. Go inside and have a beer.
After about an hour, your kids will probably come back and report that they’ve looked everywhere and can’t find anything. Inform them that you’re certain the “WMDs” are there, and if they don’t keep looking then the terrorists will have won all that delicious candy.
After another hour or so of fruitless searching, your kids will be deeply distressed and probably crying. Tell them that you’ve always known the U.N. were wimps. If cryingchildrenn bother you, a couple of OxyContin pills will take the edge off.
The traditional evening meal on Fox News Channel Day is a huge turkey dinner prepared by your wife who has been slaving thanklessly in the kitchen all day, which is exactly where she should be. After dinner, make sure you don’t offer to do the dishes, because that’s her job. If she complains, “Hannitize” her.
If you don’t have a woman handy to cook and clean for you, just get a plastic turkey with all the plastic trimmings and pretend it’s real. If you want to feel more manly while admiring your plastic turkey, wear a jacket with “Commander in Chief” written on the breast pocket.
After dinner, head out into the neighborhood for a game of Trick or Threat. Put on a Bill O’Reilly mask, knock on your neighbors’ doors, and when they appear ask, “Trick or Threat?” If they reply, “threat,” tell them that the Democrats are going to let Iran drop bombs full of bird flu down their chimneys. If they say “trick,” punch them in the face.
Alternatively, have a firework party in your back yard. While the fireworks are going off, tell your kids that this is what it’ll be like when you send them off to join the military. Then laugh out loud and tell them you’re just kidding. When the fireworks are over, burn an effigy of Alan Colmes on a bonfire made out Al Franken books.
Finally, to end your perfect Fox News Channel Day, go to a bar and get shitfaced. Pick a fight with someone a lot smaller than you are and give them the gift of freedom by kicking their ass, before passing out in a pool of your own vomit and waking up the next morning in the local drunk tank. When your wife comes to pick you up, blame it all on Bill Clinton.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:02 pmChris Wallace: It’s what a man smells like.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:02 pm#57 Thanks, Zooey. I think I fixed it so you can post comments anonymously. I’m still new at it, so please bear with me. The more I learn, the better I’ll make it. Thanks for the feedback and feel free to go back and say what you want about it.
And when I have time to research it, I think I’ll do my own essay on The Death of Habeas Corpus, since some people don’t think it’s important. But I name names or initials.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:05 pmObvioulsy that last sentence is missing a word. It should have read “I won’t name names or initials.”
October 15th, 2006 at 1:13 pmWayne,
October 15th, 2006 at 1:14 pmYou will be a great blogger. I will visit regularly.
Habeus corpus is important to all of us, but most people don’t know it and confuse it with corpus delecti.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:16 pmOne word: douche [bag]
October 15th, 2006 at 1:25 pmNice Job on the Site Wayne…
October 15th, 2006 at 1:27 pmHabeas corpus shouldn’t/doesn’t apply to foreign enemy combatants.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:30 pmAnother way to make webtext bigger is to get a Mac and hit “control + (if you’re using Safari).”
October 15th, 2006 at 1:31 pmThe “Ministry of Truth” certainly is not going to allow Chris to ask such a question. As a member of that department, Chris is not going to ad lib on the Party’s official network.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:33 pmNepotism In Action.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:34 pmChris Wallace is a registered Democrat, so maybe he really is an idiot.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:36 pmWhy does ThinkPropaganda delete dissenting comments? Hypocrites.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:37 pm1. Regarding the font size, try “Ctrl +”. It takes a split second to increase the size of the font.
OR
Try my setup. I use Firefox and a nice little ‘extension’ called “NoSquint”. It allows you to set an overall (global) text percentage (mine’s at 120%), then you can also have settings for individual web sites (like this site or Daily Kos) if you like.
It’s a great help for those with ‘older’ eyes, or anyone who finds the type on certain web sites hard to read.
2. This was a test* of Chris Wallace’s (and Fox News’) journalistic INTEGRITY.
Yes, I know they (Chris Wallace AND Fox News) don’t have any. They are part of the group that thinks that ‘reality’ in political news coverage (and politics in general) is for wimps.
The GOP (and their propoganda wing Fox News along with the other MSM ‘enablers’) seems to be working with the philosophy of “Perception is the [new] Reality”.
Now without getting into the [true] philisophical argument of perception and reality (I believe that perception IS reality, although as your knowledge changes so should [your] reality), I believe that Rove and his minions use the public’s ignorance on many/most issues to create their own reality (so far as their ‘less than informed’ (a kinder way of saying “ignorant”) viewers/listeners know).
Sort of like “What they don’t know won’t hurt [us]“….
(to hell with what’s right or what’s truly best for our Country and our Constitution I gather).
Well my good people of the United States of America, we can’t live and prosper (not to mention being the role model most of the world had come to respect) while living in a fantasy world created by Karl Rove and unchallenged by 99% of the MSM!
The raw power of this country has to be tempered with mature leaders who realize that along with great power comes great responsibility, and just because we CAN do something doesn’t mean that we SHOULD!
Our current ‘leaders’ obviously don’t subscribe to that judicious use of power. To the contrary, they seem to be giving the rest of the world (or at least those who disagree with our policies) the middle finger, and saying to them “if you don’t like it, TOUGH!”
That’s a heck of a foreign policy there George…
Way to bring people together…
Maybe instead of reading “My Pet Goat”, King George and his foreign policy team should all read “How to Win Friends and Influence People” (maybe someone could read it [to] George).
I’m starting to see a few cracks in the MSM’s reporting of what to this point has been mostly a free ride to this administration. Not much mind you, but some.
At times I wonder if [they] know the ‘truth’ and ignore it, or are they guilty of lazy journalism?
Those of us who are fairly informed citizens are outraged when we see politicians interviewed, and are allowed to repeat false claims without any challenge whatsoever from the interviewer.
Doesn’t this go against everything journalism is supposed to stand for?
And what ever happened to the “Who-What-Where-When and Why” rule of news reporting?
I see it all the time, especially on the [so-called] 24-hour news cable channels. Most of the time you might get 2-3 of the five, but most of the time I’m left saying to myself “But wait, what about …”(fill in the blank).
In closing, Chris Wallace should be considered [one of] the posterboys/girls for bad journalism.
My limited vocabulary and writing skills don’t do justice to this situation I’m afaid, but I have faith that those without my limitations will continue on this topic and somehow get through to those who somehow still believe in this administration’s propoganda and who don’t realize that much of the ‘news’ that they get (mostly through the cable/broadcast networks MSM) is either wrong or at best
incomplete.
Note: I regularly urge people to regularly visit web sites like “Media Matters for America” to realize all the news that they’re NOT getting. Most of those people had no idea how much crap they were being fed, and considered themselves fairly well-informed.
It’s nearly a full time job to keep yourself informed to the point where you can tell if the talking head is doing their job and leaving the viewers with the correct impression.
Unfortunately 99+% of the time my feeling is NO, viewers were NOT left with the actual facts. More often than not viewers are left with false impressions or outright propoganda provided by those who speak for this administration.
Journalists are SUPPOSED to be skeptical and not take things on face value, but VERIFY statements before reporting them as factual.
When I was much younger (and had more brain cells) I thought I wanted to become a photojournalist/reporter.
That idea died when the MSM decided to help the ‘Let’s get the Clintons’ witch hunt to the detriment of the actual important issues of the time.
On the other hand, honorable journalists (with integrity) are desperately needed as much as we’ve ever needed them.
I’d like to believe that journalism schools ARE teaching independent thinking, fact-checking, healthy skepticism, and keeping personal beliefs OUT of ther reporting.
So what is happening when these graduates go to work for outfits like CNN-MSNBC-and the like (God knows why people go to work for the likes of Fox News Channel when it’s notorious for biased reporting)? Do they put what they’ve been taught aside because of their editor/bosses agenda?
All I know is that most of the time the ‘product’ that’s provided to inform the public, supposedly in an unbiased manner (doing the job that journalism in a free society is supposed to do) is defective.
If only news outlets provided a ‘warranty’ for their ‘product’.
The public is sopposed to be able to TRUST that the ‘news’ they’re presented is factual and unbiased.
Most MSM news channels should be sued on the basis that
they have breached that trust.
Sorry for the long post, but it’s a disturbing subject, and once I get started I have a LOT to say.
*Is there something lower than an “F” that we can grade his/their ‘integrity’ with?
October 15th, 2006 at 1:38 pmHopefully with a “U” for “Unacceptable to the American people”?
Why does ThinkPropaganda delete dissenting comments? Hypocrites.
Comment by NoPropaganda — October 15, 2006 @ 1:37 pm
They don’t. They delete puerile nonsense. And you are only posting puerile nonsense.
Grow up and try again.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:39 pmHabeas corpus shouldn’t/doesn’t apply to foreign enemy combatants.
Comment by NoPropaganda — October 15, 2006 @ 1:30 pm
First, prove they are enemy combatants. You can’t without a trial.
Secondly, yes, they should. Everyone shold be afforded innocence until proven guilt. No matter how hateful and afraid you may be, denying other’s of that courtesy is just the beginning in inevitably denying it to YOU.
Thirdly, go back to church. Clearly you didn’t pay attention to the ‘be nice to others’ parts.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:42 pmWallace, and any other reasonable sane human, should ignore the ranting emails from you crazed moonbats.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:43 pmSo another has proven he will do / say anything to further his / his bosses’ agenda.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:43 pmThe reason that Wallace didn’t ask the question is because the “blame Clinton” excuse is not working anymore and “Because I was shopping for shoes at Ferragamo” wouldn’t have gone over very well.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:44 pmI have to admit, I honestly thought Chris Wallace would ask the question. I figured that Faux News would at least try to appear like a legitimate news organization. Boy was I wrong.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:47 pmNoProp, then you’re perfectly satisfied should a foreign country decide to kidnap, imprison and torture you for the rest of your natural life. As to the definition of “unlawful enemy combatants,” you would fit under that definition from a foreign country’s point of view. All that is needed is for other countries around the globe to adopt the same “Military Commission” bill that Congress passed for other countries to kidnap American citizens, torture them and hold them indefinitly without trial.
And if foreign countries start scanning the internet looking for those who support the Bush Administration, your ISP will come up. Under Bush’s Torture Bill, Bush can kidnap anybody, anywhere in the world. If a foreign country adopted the same exact language, a foreign country could come to the United States and kidnap you and whisk you off on a midnight flight to a secret prison.
If you justify such treatment against others, you justify it against yourself. Karma’s a b!tch and she’s looking for payback.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:47 pmNoProp, then you’re perfectly satisfied should a foreign country decide to kidnap, imprison and torture you for the rest of your natural life. As to the definition of “unlawful enemy combatants,” you would fit under that definition from a foreign country’s point of view. All that is needed is for other countries around the globe to adopt the same “Military Commission” bill that Congress passed for other countries to kidnap American citizens, torture them and hold them indefinitly without trial.
Under Bush’s Torture Bill (Military Commissions Bill), Bush can kidnap anybody, anywhere in the world, torture them and hold them in a secret prison for the rest of their life without ever telling them why. If a foreign country adopted the same exact language, a foreign country could come to the United States and kidnap you and whisk you off on a midnight flight to a secret prison. And remember, Bush said the world would be a better place if all nations followed his lead and adopt the same law.
If you justify such treatment against others, you justify it against yourself. Karma’s a b!tch and she’s looking for payback. And if foreign countries start scanning the internet looking for those who support the Bush Administration, your ISP will come up. “As you sow, so shall you reap.”
October 15th, 2006 at 1:51 pmBrisaedh,
Stop lying. There is no “torture bill.” And the military commission bill passed by Congress doesn’t allow kidnapping or anything of the sort.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:51 pmHabeas corpus shouldn’t/doesn’t apply to foreign enemy combatants.
Comment by NoPropaganda
If you understand what habeas corpus is then you understand why it should apply to everyone accused of a crime. Simply put, it’s your right to go into court and challenge why you were arrested in the first place. If the president’s policy is allowed to remain law, what’s to stop him from just deciding that you are an enemy combatant? Once he declares that you are an enemy combatant, that alone would be enough to deny you the right to say, “No I’m not.” to a judge. Is that what you think a legal system should be like?
Sometimes they’re wrong about who they arrest.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:52 pmHabeas corpus shouldn’t/doesn’t apply to foreign enemy combatants.
Comment by NoPropaganda — October 15, 2006 @ 1:30 pm
Prove you not an enemy conbatant. Ops, they don’t allow you prove anything.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:58 pm“Simply put, it’s your right to go into court”
Which the foreign enemy combatants are able to do under the recently passed detainee bill.
October 15th, 2006 at 1:59 pmsorry for the double post…I was trying to get rid of the + signs…
NoProp – how much training have you had in reading and interpreting law? Have you read the text of the Military Commissions Bill passed by Congress? Do you recall that Bush just transfered some 14 prisoners to Guantanamo, 14 prisoners who were being held in secret prisons – ie. kidnapped? Do you know that such renditions are a violation of international law, and that the Military Commissions Bill retroactively rescinds our obligations under the Geneva Convention to allow those activities?
I just completed a Juris Doctor degree and spent two summers abroad studying international law and international human rights. What’s your qualifications for your assertion that I am the one who is lying? What’s your proof of what the Military Commission does or does not allow? For mine, I refer you back to the other treads on ThinkProgress where I discussed the issue in depth. Do the research if you care, I’ll not bother reposting just to counter your innane statement.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:00 pmSaying that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was “kidnapped” only makes sense if you are on his side.
Thank you for clarifying your position.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:02 pmNoProp, your initial statement, “Habeas corpus shouldn’t/doesn’t apply to foreign enemy combatants.” proposed a change to Bush’s Military Commission Bill. Habeus Corpus does apply to “foreign enemy combatants” under Bush’s Bill, but does not apply to “alien unlawful enemy combatants.” You would extend the denial of Habeus Corpus to all enemy combatants. Your suggestion is far worse than Bush’s in its reach.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:06 pmAfter reading comment #81 I’m reminded of the old saying “Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt”…
On a side note, I wish that I could recall the candidate in Massachusetts whose political ad I saw around a month or so.
It showed many of his opponents (and others) as cartoon charachters with their heads [literally] stuck up their butts.
How appropriate!
As opposed to Kerry Healy’s ad (she’s a Republican running for the Governor’s office in Mass. against Deval Patrick) that almost seems like a clone of the infamous “Willy Horton” negative ad.
It closes with the question to the effect of ‘everyone deserves a defense, but do you really want a Governor who would defend someone accused of brutally beating and repeatedly raping an old woman?’
SHE obviously wouldn’t, and seems to imply that it would be a bad thing for anyone to do so.
[I] answered her question after seeing the ad and said YES!
That’s how [I] EXPECT our system to work and would NOT vote for anyone who stated that they WOULDN’T at least uphold the civil rights of an accused person.
Praying on people’s fears is a big part of the Republican strategy, and it’s WRONG (and kind of pathetic)!
October 15th, 2006 at 2:14 pmNo Briseadh is reduced to asinine nit-picking and parsing.
Foreign enemies should not and have never been treated like domestic criminal suspects with constitutional protections, period.
But then anyone who would even suggest that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was “kidnapped” is simply working for the benefit of the enemy and will say anything.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:15 pmThe fact is, the Willie Horton ad was accurate, and it addressed a legitimate issue. That’s why the Demcorats hated it. They are enemies of truth.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:18 pmThis just in: Chris Wallace has no, I repeat no journalistic integrity.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:19 pmThis just in: Yeti_Steve has no integrity.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:20 pm#74 TR
October 15th, 2006 at 2:22 pmGood post.
Notice how NoProp’s arguments morph without ever addressing my questions?
Now NoProp claims Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was not kidnapped, again without providing anything to backup his assertions.
From the California Penal Code:
I suppose this means that the California Penal Code is “working for the benefit of the enemy,” because, under that definition, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was kidnapped.
Care to provide us with a different definition NoProp?
October 15th, 2006 at 2:25 pmWHY THE EMAIL CAMPAIGN DID NOT WORK:
Sending 20,000 emails fromt the SAME email address is called SPAM by you, me and everyone!
WHAT’S EFFECTIVE::
You should have asked people to send the letter (copy and paste it) from their own email address. 20,000 emails from 20,000 different people means a huge surge of interest in the topic.
Adding your own comments to the letter (customizing it) would have been stronger still.
Being polite while being forceful and insistent would have been more effective (that is what you want, isn’t it?) – when was the last time giving the finger to another driver improved their driving behaviour. There are a lot of fingers in this list of comments.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:28 pmWho thinks the California Penal Code applies to al Qaeda leaders captured in Afghanistan??? ROFLMAO!!!
No decent, patriotic American would ever say such a thing.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:28 pmThis just in: NoPropaganda is a tool
October 15th, 2006 at 2:29 pmI believe I called this correctly friday when I mentioned that even if there were 40,000 emails, this shcmuck wouldn’t ask her the tough question.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:29 pmHis handlers are keeping the soft, newborn calfskin gloves on, for fear of being gitmoed in the middle of the night.
To be fair they had tech diff, and she couldn’t compleate the interview
October 15th, 2006 at 2:31 pmYou think now Lawrence O’donnel will stop saying that Chris Wallace is not partisan ?
October 15th, 2006 at 2:32 pmYeah another TV so called Dem supporting Right Wingers.
Prostitution has been around from the beginning of time.Anything to get on TV.
98 – “gitmoed” past tense; to gitmo. Very nice.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:32 pmTell us Briseadh, does the California Penal Code apply as well when a US soldier shoots an al Qaeda fighter between the eyes in Afghanistan? LOL
October 15th, 2006 at 2:33 pm#
No Briseadh is reduced to asinine nit-picking and parsing.
Foreign enemies should not and have never been treated like domestic criminal suspects with constitutional protections, period.
But then anyone who would even suggest that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was “kidnapped†is simply working for the benefit of the enemy and will say anything.
Comment by NoPropaganda — October 15, 2006 @ 2:15 pm
Oho, Again when they label you as a foreign enemy, you have no chance to prove you are domestic suspect. At least you require a court to testify you are foreigner or US citizen before they throw you to Gitmo?
October 15th, 2006 at 2:34 pmThe way fox thinks, 20k of emails…wow…RATINGS….string them along,and do it again….’coming next month’….the lesson Clinton gave crissy boy is a lesson to all of us NOT to watch fox only to be disapointed again.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:37 pmDutch,
Chris Wallace is a registered Democrat.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:38 pm“Again when they label you as a foreign enemy, you have no chance to prove you are domestic suspect.”
That is untrue. The law very clearly defines who is an alien enemy combatant.
Such ignorance.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:40 pmChris Wallace is a registered Democrat.
Comment by NoPropaganda
Where did you learn that?
October 15th, 2006 at 2:43 pmChris Wallace is a registered Democrat.
Comment by NoPropaganda
Possibly. But I know for a fact he’s a registered tool.
October 15th, 2006 at 2:44 pm105 – Sounds like a load of bull to me. What’s your source?
October 15th, 2006 at 2:46 pmRe post #100 and Lawrence O’Donnell:
It was interesting/disturbing to watch Mr. O’Donnell say one thing on Keith Olbermann’s show recently, then turn around and say something completely different on the [following] MSNBC show (Scarborough Country) as a member of a panel of ‘pundits’.
Will the real Lawrence O’Donnell please stand up?
October 15th, 2006 at 2:47 pmWayne, from the Washington Post. Heard of it?
October 15th, 2006 at 2:51 pmif wallace had asked the question, it would have been an indication that clinton had won the point about not asking the * misadministration about the cole; therefore, he didn’t ask the question (and you can surmise the suits at faux “news” had him under orders not to).
October 15th, 2006 at 2:52 pm#106 That is untrue. The law very clearly defines who is an alien enemy combatant.
Such ignorance.
Comment by NoPropaganda — October 15, 2006 @ 2:40 pm
Yes the law may clearly, but the govt say they’re right follow the law, you say you’re right follow the law. Who judge the quarrel? Such ignorance. You think your leaders always right and they have full power to control your life? STUPID
October 15th, 2006 at 2:56 pmSo, NoProp, if the agents of a foreign government were to whisk you off to a secret prison, what would you call it? Remember, to them, you’re the enemy combatant.
And, you’ll note I didn’t say California Law applied, merely that it provided one definition of kidnapping. You’ve yet to supply a different one.
October 15th, 2006 at 3:04 pmWayne, from the Washington Post. Heard of it?
Comment by NoPropaganda
I asked a simple question. There was no need to be snotty about it. Of course I’ve heard of the Washington Post. Thank you for providing a link.
That being said, I think Wallace’s reasoning for why he’s a registered Democrat makes little sense. Unless he truly is liberal, he should’t register as a Democratic, but instead should register with a party he wants to see replace them. Then he should do all the things people who want their candidates to win (but who don’t have their own TV show) do like donate money or go door-to-door or work as a volunteer. But you don’t simply say that one party is always going to win and therefore it’s useless to belong to another party. If that’s his voting attitude, then maybe he should stay home on Election Day (which should be a Federal Holiday).
October 15th, 2006 at 3:04 pmNoProp drew the short straw this Sunday. Sound’s like he’s working off Hendler’s script though.
It’s a nice day to work outside…later.
October 15th, 2006 at 3:10 pmThink Progress, can you forward all the emails to his father (who must be red with shame over his weenie son) and ask Mike to speak with Chrissy boy? Maybe he can convince him to ask Mephistopheles Rice *the* question.
October 15th, 2006 at 3:11 pmThis WW2 Vet has seen a lot of shit in his day, and don’t need to get pissed off watching the worst channel, with the dumbos like Chris and the O’Rilleys. We killed better men then these nitwits. I agree with most of these comments, piss him off.
October 15th, 2006 at 3:12 pm#116, so that’s who NoProp reminded me of! I knew it sounded like one of the regular trolls.
October 15th, 2006 at 3:15 pmQuoted from the linked Washington Post page:
“Wallace is a regular at his local polling place, and says he’s voted for members of both parties. “Look, some people think [journalists] shouldn’t vote at all — I think that’s a little silly. . . . However I vote personally, I think I’m professional enough that it doesn’t have anything to do with the way I cover the news.”
As they always say: Fair and balanced, people.”
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He says nothing about how he votes on the National level.
If he [ever] votes Democratic on that level I’ll eat my shorts (unless it’s for a faux-Democrat like that wingnut [is it Zell Miller?]).
And if he votes Democratic yet still willingly shovels the Republican horsecrap out to the Fox News viewers he’s more than a hypocrite…
Now Fox News DOES realize that when intelligent people hear their “Fair and Balanced” claim they snicker with a collective “yeah right”.
Note to Fox News: As my parents taught me long ago, “talk is cheap”. You can repeat the slogan ’till you’re [blue*] in the face and it STILL won’t be true!
* Pun intended
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October 15th, 2006 at 3:23 pmAnother thought:
As more Americans come to realize that they’ve been lied to by the White House, AND that many of those lies were parroted by the majority of the MSM without any verification, the ones that STILL believe the White House’s lies are obviously serious ‘deadenders’ that don’t want to hear the ‘truth’.
That’s what we see here with the likes of Jay Randal, NoPropoganda, and others. Only the diehards still believe the BS, and it’s only going to get worse as that distillation process continues.
Lucky us, eh?
October 15th, 2006 at 3:29 pmOops! PLEASE replace the name “Jason Hendler” for Jay randal! And Jay, please accept my sincere appologies!
October 15th, 2006 at 3:33 pmFolks, aside from the USS Cole, think about Wallace’s failure to ask Rice about the July 10, 2001 meeting that was mentioned in Woodward’s book. This is apparently the smoking gun that Rice was warned in advance of Al Queda’s plan to attack the us. Visit this site to sign the petition to have these documents declassified.
http://www.petitiononline.com/july10/petition.html
This petition is drafted by some of the 9/11 widows. Support their cause to get to the truth.
October 15th, 2006 at 3:40 pm118 – WW2 vet? Wow, that’s pretty impressive.
October 15th, 2006 at 3:52 pmComment by John Bakalik
Thank you, sir, for your service to our country. If not for you and your fellow servicemen and women, we might not be sitting here today enjoying a nice little chat about how our government officials lie to us all the time.
October 15th, 2006 at 3:59 pm#125 http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cocoon/vhp/bib/9240
October 15th, 2006 at 4:03 pmI watched it this morning, and though they were (convieniently?) experiencing technical difficulties (Rice was remote from Camp David and the link kept going out) that may have cut the interview short, Wallace’s questions up to that point were all about NK and did not seem to be leading up to any “off topic” question in the minute or two longer the interview might otherwise lasted.
So now, when will the *next* WH official be on their program? Will they again be “on remote” rather than in-studio, and experience “technical difficulties”?
October 15th, 2006 at 4:06 pmWallce is Bush’s bitch … he’s Rice’s bitch … he’s Cheney’s bitch … he’s Rumsfeld’s bitch … but, and most importantly, he’s not Clinton’s bitch.
Who’s yer daddy, Wallce? Who’s yer daddy?
October 15th, 2006 at 4:19 pmI wish you had the courage to ask the tough questions of all your guests like your father. Obviously, you are not the MAN he is.
October 15th, 2006 at 4:19 pmJudd is either ignoring facts again. Or maybe he was watching sesame street in 2000.
Here’s the problem with his ludicrous argument regarding the Cole. This crap about certifaction has been the excuse Clinton used to avoid the politcal risk that lead to his inaction and hand-wringing over the al Qaeda threat. He punted to the next administration (Bush) and now criticizes Bush for applying Clinton’s strategy, avoid taking preemptive action.
But everyone knew it was al Qaeda who bombed the Cole. Just ask Richard Clarke just after the bombing of the Cole.
“There are similarities in the sophistication of the attack, the pre-planning of the attack. This is something that began long before the recent violence in the Middle East. This took months to plan, and there are indications of safe houses, and planning, and moving of personnel in. That’s a sophisticated attack.”
The US even had intelligence that could have prevented the attack.
Al-Zawahiri made a direct threat to U.S. forces in Yemen in a tape a few weeks before the attack.
“Enough of words, it is time to take action against this iniquitous and faithless (US) force, which has spread its troops through Egypt, Yemen and Saudi Arabia.”
October 15th, 2006 at 4:28 pmChris Wallace ranks up there with the rest of the propoganda inspired asshole journalists who rank Bush above Jesus Christ!!!! That smirk he had on his face when he interviewed Bush was just like the one that Bush wears on his fat, ugly mug!!!!! Condi Rice is a crook too!!!!! They all knew about September 11-but this administration chose to do absolutely nothing-even when they had knowledge something was going to happen involving airplanes. They decided to just turn a blind eye on the events of the day so that Bush could surge in the polls for taking charge!!!!!! Remember the little Hitler standing on the pile of rubble at the World Trade Center blowing through his megaphone like he was a cheerleader at a football game!!! Couldn’t he see that this was indecent-decaying flesh underneath him. Asshole!!!! Truth is definately stranger than fiction and with this bunch, expect only a surprise ending!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 15th, 2006 at 4:29 pmSo how is it known that Wallace got 20,000 emails? If you ask me, I think it is because some clever idiot spammed Wallace’s email address with 20,000 bogus emails…but I could be wrong. Unless your source is cited, that is what I will think. You guys need to get off the koolaid.
October 15th, 2006 at 4:41 pm127 – nice! If there’s a draft I’ll be a cook. I couldn’t bring myself to shoot anyone. Maybe give them a savage beating, but bullets? Noooo way.
October 15th, 2006 at 4:48 pmThe US even had intelligence that could have prevented the attack.
Al-Zawahiri made a direct threat to U.S. forces in Yemen in a tape a few weeks before the attack.
“Enough of words, it is time to take action against this iniquitous and faithless (US) force, which has spread its troops through Egypt, Yemen and Saudi Arabia.â€
Comment by memphis minnie — October 15, 2006 @ 4:28 pm
So which intelligence is more “actionable” or more specific than the other, the Al-Zawahiri message weeks before the Cole bombing or the PDB Condi Got….?
October 15th, 2006 at 4:51 pmThe following is a redacted text of the presidential daily briefing from August 6, 2001:
Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.
Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate Bin Ladensince 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the U.S. Bin Laden implied in U.S. television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and “bringthe fighting to America.” :
After U.S. missile strikes on his base in Afghanistan in 1998, Bin Ladentold followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington, according to a [deleted text] service.
An Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) operative told [deleted text] serviceat the same time that Bin Laden was planning to exploit the operative’saccess to the U.S. to mount a terrorist strike.
The millennium plotting in Canada in 1999 may have been part of Bin Laden’s first serious attempt to implement a terrorist strike in the U.S. Convicted plotter Ahmed Ressam has told the FBI that he conceived the idea to attack Los Angeles International Airport himself, but that BinLaden lieutenant Abu Zubaydah encouraged him and helped facilitate theoperation. Ressam also said that in 1998 Abu Zubaydah was planning hisown U.S. attack.
Ressam says Bin Laden was aware of the Los Angeles operation.
Although Bin Laden has not succeeded, his attacks against the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 demonstrate that he preparesoperations years in advance and is not deterred by setbacks. Bin Laden associates surveilled our Embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam as early as 1993, and some members of the Nairobi cell planning the bombings were arrested and deported in 1997.
AI Qaeda members — including same who are U.S. citizens — have resided in and traveled to the U.S. for years, and the group apparently maintains asupport structure that could aid attacks.
Two Al Qaeda members found guiltyin the conspiracy to bomb our embassies in East Africa were U.S. citizens, and a senior EIJ member lived in California in the mid-1990s.
A clandestine sourcesaid in 1998 that a Bin Laden cell in New Yorkwas recruiting Muslim-American youth for attacks.
We havenot been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a [deleted text] service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of “Blind Shaykh” ‘Umar’ Abd aI-Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.
Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns ofsuspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations forhijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance offederal buildings in New York.
The FBI is conducting approximately 70 investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers Bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May sayingthat a group or Bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives.
Wallace lied about the Clinton question coming from e-mails. To use a third party for lies, accusations, leaks, misinformation, is a classic right wing tactic. I’m sure Clinton recognized this and attacked the pansey.
October 15th, 2006 at 4:52 pmI can’t believe that idiot Bush was elected. Bush and Rice continue to lie from day one. It is amazing to note that Christians are the number supporter of Bush, even after his vote for torture, killing of over 655,000 humans in iraq in a war he created out of lies. Christians again, not doing as jesus would do but doing as Bush would fool them into doing. I guess their Jesus was for war and torture and would have lied just like Bush and Rice. Just another good reason to remove religion from politics. Seems the non-religious are the ones with the morals and stand up against what is wrong. Jesus would be proud.
October 15th, 2006 at 4:55 pmHey NO PROP DUMBASS!!!!!
You Know who else is an idiot bushie lover who is a democrat? Hmm…………………….. JOE LIEBERMAN!!!!!!!!!!!
October 15th, 2006 at 5:40 pmIs it too late to call a Caption Contest?
That’s one of the most stupid faces I’ve ever seen.
October 15th, 2006 at 5:53 pmCaption:
“What, me worry?”
October 15th, 2006 at 6:05 pmChris Wallace will never have the integrity his father has. He is a complete nobody and boot licker. But, I am not surprised by this at all. After Jeff Cohens interview with Amy Goodman on Democracy Now, I can see that the media is a bunch of weasel cowards.
“And in the last months of Donahue, we were ordered by management at MSNBC: every time we booked one guess who was antiwar, we had to book two that were pro-war. If we booked two guests on the left, we had to book three on the right. One meeting a producer suggested booking Michael Moore and was told, for ideological balance she would need three right-wingers. And, you know, I used to think about proposing Chomsky as a guest but our stage couldn’t accommodate the 38 right-wingers we would have needed for balance.
I mean, when you see this kind of suppression — when we would talk about booking Scott Ritter, one of the most articulate dissenters, a skeptic of the WMD evidence, because we had a steady parade of weapons experts that got everything wrong and they were unrebutted. On MSNBC, I was a pundit, I couldn’t have discussed the weather without being balanced by at least one fire-breathing right-winger. But the weapons experts got on all by themselves, and everything they said was wrong.
And we tried to book Scott Ritter. And it was like clockwork. We’d hear in the building at MSNBC, “Oh, we hear he’s covertly — he’s getting covert funds from the government of Saddam Hussein.†It was completely false, a smear aimed at getting an articulate dissenting voice off of mainstream TV. I’m sure it wasn’t just being heard at MSNBC. It was being heard at other channels. “
October 15th, 2006 at 6:16 pmTranscript and Audio
Fox is a joke.
October 15th, 2006 at 6:33 pmCaption:
“I’m not wearing pants — again.”
October 15th, 2006 at 6:35 pm#143 – Zooey,
October 15th, 2006 at 6:39 pmCould you put that image on YouTube?
Walt,
I just wish I could get it out of my brain…
October 15th, 2006 at 7:05 pmChris and Condi Photoshop
October 15th, 2006 at 7:27 pmChris is a chicken___t
October 15th, 2006 at 7:48 pmWho is Chris Wallace?
October 15th, 2006 at 9:24 pmgaah why do you people feed the trolls? Noprop is a paid detrator whose job it is to provoke you and to argue with you. Dialogue isn’t possible and that’s not why (s)he is here.
If you ignore this individual they will slink back under the same rock whence they came
October 15th, 2006 at 10:16 pmHe wouldn’t be working at FOX if he asked serious questions.
October 15th, 2006 at 10:18 pmwhat a puss!
October 15th, 2006 at 10:54 pmOf course he didn’t ask. Does this surprise anyone?
Wallace’s job is not to ask questions -at leasts not the hard ones, but to toe the line and make the powers that be seem palatable to the gullible public (or at leat to that stubborn 30-something %ers who are too busy prostrating themselves at the feet of the Bush altar.)
Wallace apaprently has learnt that is is far easier (and far more lucrative), to be a stenographer than an actual journalist. It is also safer: He will never risk losing his life like Terry Loyd, or Anna Politkovskaya -he is much too valuable as a parroter of the official story line.
Although it was a good idea to expose this hypocritical, lying, servile, self-important minion.
October 16th, 2006 at 12:18 amWhat a complete tool! The Nickleson line from “As Good as it Gets” seems somehow appropriate here… “…I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability…”
October 16th, 2006 at 12:20 amunbelievable > thanks for clearing up the font size issue > going to view then hitting text size worked, but it does not answer the question why myself and many others suddenly had to read small font posted on the threads? TP staff should have explained this to everyone instead of pissing us off!
Up untill a couple days ago I had zero problem with the font size, so TP did something because no way for many of us to have the same problem all at once?!
TP needs to post information to clear up these problems!
October 16th, 2006 at 12:53 amwhat really ticks anyone is the way wallace first presents those one sided questions and tries to defend saying these are the usual set of questions. serves him right that clinton immediately shot back – even saying that he has this smart-ass smirk on his face…etc.
October 16th, 2006 at 1:27 am[...] 911 : Fox-Biais (Think Progress Рgauchiste) Chris Wallace Ignores 20,000 Emails Demanding He Ask Rice About The U.S.S. Cole (tags: USA media politique 911 ̩lection) [...]
October 16th, 2006 at 1:48 amIf Chris Wallace were my son, I’d disown and disinherit him, and I’d ask for tuition refunds from the schools he attended!
Mike W
October 16th, 2006 at 6:45 amSmirking little republican ****er!
October 16th, 2006 at 7:36 amI will try to place a north of the border point of view about newsworthyness of FOX on the table; It blows. Its hard to believe that partisan scumbags with slick groomed appearances make for a reputable source as it seems that looks is the only thing they have on the agenda and not the subject matter.
I’d sooner believe Ron Burgundy from ‘Anchorman’ than FOX news. Stick to making dummingly addictive series for moday nights , its the only thing that corp. is good at.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:44 am[...] Over 20,000 people emailed Chris Wallace and asked him to question Condi Rice about why they didn’t retaliate for the U.S.S. Cole attack – you know, as he claimed he’d done during the Clinton interview? [...]
October 16th, 2006 at 9:56 amZe terrorists have won
October 16th, 2006 at 10:15 amWhat amazes me is how many liberal/progressive/indepenent people watch GOP tv/Faux news. Stop it! Their large ratings give them more credance than they desreve. They’d be a third rate network if only the cons watched them.
October 16th, 2006 at 10:17 amI agree with Steven–STOP WATCHING THESE LIARS. If you must watch Fox (for Simpsons or something) make note of and boycott advertisers, whenever possible. Hit them in the only place it counts.
October 16th, 2006 at 10:31 amA Faux Spews reporter’s reporting is biased? NO! Say it isn’t SO! I’m SHocked, Shocked I tell you! Take me to my fainting couch.
October 16th, 2006 at 11:02 am………………………….
Large Marge said it best and shortest.
And it’s not going to change until Faux Spews changes ownership. Until then, all viewers of the channel are the tail of the dog… and that dog has serious loose bowels.
Is it just me, or does he just look stupid. I don’t mean to be mean, but he has this vacant look behind his eyes.
The light’s aren’t on, and no one’s home!!
I can just hear him whine “But Roger, can’t I just watch cartoons with Bill O and Sean???”
October 16th, 2006 at 11:20 amROFLMAO. Bunch of cowards at Fox. They just need one seriously Huge Momma’s Skirt to hide behind next time. Can’t handle Real debate and when it comes to iraq they’re all chicken hawks. Go drink more beer with the rest of the the good ol’ momma’s boys. Maybe you’ll get lucky and score yourself a page boy
October 16th, 2006 at 12:32 pmWonder what is going to happen if the democrats take over congress in November. Since no self respecting democrat should even answer Fox’s request will the make up more outlandish stuff.
October 16th, 2006 at 12:36 pmWhoever said the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree never met Chris Wallace. Mike Wallace is the journalist I have the most respect for over the last 30 years. It is sad to see his legacy tainted by his son’s obvious lack of journalistic integrity.
October 16th, 2006 at 12:44 pmThere was never any chance that Chris Wallace would bring up the issue of the U. S. S. Cole during his interview with Rice. Still, this was useful because it further underscores the point Bill Clinton made. Indeed, the emperior has no clothes.
October 16th, 2006 at 12:56 pmQuestion you will NEVER see Fox ask of Bush:
Why wouldn’t you testify UNDER OATH to the 9/11 Commission.
What did you have to HIDE??
October 16th, 2006 at 1:20 pmWell, I knew that was coming. It’s so obvious they are being so evil. I wonder how they can sleep at night?
October 16th, 2006 at 1:26 pmGeez Stramm, a little rough on the guy’s mom aren’t ya?
October 16th, 2006 at 1:46 pm[...] Full article here… [...]
October 16th, 2006 at 2:02 pmConservatives on this board are celebrating the fact that one of our major cable news networks will not ask questions to an important guest. The questions represent the desires of at least half the American voting population if we are to believe any of the polls. Yet, these conservatives celebrate the fact that they will not be aired. I find this very, very strange and unamerican.
October 16th, 2006 at 2:29 pmAnyone emailing Wallace, and actually expecting him to ask Rice about the Cole non-response are, although admirably participating as engaged citizens, merely dreaming that Fox might slip in to fair and balanced mode. Further, it would mean Wallace had a modicum of respect for Bill Clinton – NO WAY.
October 16th, 2006 at 3:11 pmHmmm, what happened to Noprop? Throw a couple of facts at him and he walks away? What’s the matter Noprop? Out of Bush propaganda/talking points to spew?
Briseadh na Faire has Bush signed the version that could name citizens of the US as enemy combatants yet? I heard that it was still on his desk.
October 16th, 2006 at 3:19 pmHey morons,
Who was the president when the U.S.S. Cole was attacked? Umm.. that’s your hero, Bill Clinton. Why didn’t the pathological liar do anything in response to the attack?
October 16th, 2006 at 5:36 pmHey moron,
The only pathological liars that have occupied the White House this century have all been Republicans, with the present occupant the most disgusting of them all. How anyone with an IQ higher than a jelly bean could support the POS is another of those mysteries of the universe sane people will never understand.
You’re just sore because you had to watch Bill Clinton publicly neuter one of your Faux News slimeballs on national TV, then watch the same pathetic little wimp refuse to grow his own balls back when given the chance to prove he wasn’t a lying little Bush-whore with Rice. Either way, you lose, loser!
October 16th, 2006 at 6:19 pmChris Wallace is an America-hating fountain of hypocrisy and lies.
This is FACT, not opinion.
October 16th, 2006 at 6:33 pmMake the fonts SMALLER please. I hate scrolling.
Oh, and Wallace is a sad imitation of a journalist. If his dad were dead, he’d be spinning in his grave. Mike: SHITHEAD! I said carry on the Wallace tradition, not carry Bush’s bags, you asshole! (WHACK!)”
October 16th, 2006 at 7:13 pmDo you people have any idea how pathetic you sound? Did even of you happen to read that Chris Wallace is a registered Democrat?
He asked Clinton a perfectly legitimate question. If he had asked Clinton, why didn’t you respond to the attack on the Cole, you would condemn that as an right wing attack.
Utter hypocrisy.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:14 pmIf you really want to make a point, get everyone that you know to email this article to Keith Olberman, Joe Scarborough and Hardball with Chris Matthews.
They all made a big deal out of the Clinton confrontation and will likely point out this discrepency in Fox’s reporting if they get alot of e-mail on it.
Sunshine is the best disinfectant!
October 16th, 2006 at 9:29 pmIf you really want to make a point, send this article to Keith Olberman, Chris Matthews and Joe Scarborough.
They all made a big deal out of the Clinton Confrontation and would most likey point out the additional Fox discrepency.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:54 pmThe best part of him got flushed down the toilet when Mike got rid of the condom.
October 16th, 2006 at 10:12 pmDo you people have any idea how pathetic you sound? Did even of you happen to read that Chris Wallace is a registered Democrat?
So’s Joe Lieberman, pal.
October 16th, 2006 at 10:13 pmThat’s right. And Lieberman’s going to win re-election despite all you blind lemmings.
October 16th, 2006 at 10:41 pmNow, there’s a “raw-boned”, hard news journalist! Er, ah, I mean a hard-boned raw nazi, no, wait!, I mean, an adjourned, boned-raw, non-journalist, no wait I meant, a newly boned raw newby journeyman republican boot licker! No wait, that’s still not right… Well, then again, maybe it is…
October 17th, 2006 at 4:32 amP.S. Chrissy looks like a gay monkey; (with apologies to gays and monkeys) the perfect mate for herr dumb-ya
October 17th, 2006 at 4:39 amWhat do you expect out of me. Screw the GOP. Never. I take money and bribes from the GOP and am loyal to them I have been sworn to be loyal to them. I owe this job at FOX to the GOP. I have been under the table of many GOP leaders and sucked them dry and that’s why I got this job. C’mon guys I have a family to feed and this is the easiest way to feed my family. Look Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch won’t allow me to say anything negative about the GOP or Bush. So I keep on suckin’g the GOP until I no longer can. Who cares about this country! I am here to enrich myslef. Karl Rove told me before I joined FOX, that Chris just support the GOP and you will be well taken care of for the rest of your life and that’s what I am doing. A true family values man.
Have a nice day.
Sincerely,
Chis the GOP PIMP and SUCKER Wallace
October 17th, 2006 at 5:22 am[...] The liberal blogosphere is not happy with Chris Wallace after the fallout from the interview. (Think Progress) They flooded him with 20,000 e-mails, according to them, asking him to ask Condi the following question — implying, as Clinton did, that he is not “fair and balanced.” Prior to 9/11, you had eight months to respond to the al-Qaeda attack on the U.S.S. Cole. Why didn’t the Bush administration take action and put al-Qaeda out of business? [...]
October 17th, 2006 at 12:18 pmWow I am glad I checked out this today…I have to get my fix of here Liberals whine
October 17th, 2006 at 6:54 pmOk you idiots this is how the game works…every politician wants the power just for powers sake…whether its a Republican or Democrat its the same….the day after the election in November they all will start saying or doing whatever they have to do to get re-elected. It s all about the power and if you think any of them really care about the people you are wrong. Why do you think both sides are postering on immigration…they are counting the votes. Which side do i need to take to get the most votes. Seriously please tell me that you people already know this. If you think either party cares about you it is sad….they only care about your vote..and yes that goes for Clinton also. They cant go to the bathroom till they ask a advisor what stall they should go into to get a couple more votes. So all this is fun to read….but its just for entertainment…they are in Washington laughing at all of us. Yes i voted for Bush..yes i realize now he is an idiot and lier…but they all are liers..they just havent gotten caught.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:09 pmChris Wallace is a TOOL of the regime.
He’s a member of the Ministry of Propaganda.
He’s got a lot od damn nerve calling himself a journalist.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:38 pmBecause Bush was trying to get his cabinet together.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:43 pmWhy didn’t Clinton do it? It happened on HIS watch.
And don’t give me this junk about “He couldn’t get the Support”
He was the President and Chief of the Armed Fforces, he could go
in anytime he wanted.
I am just amazed that there are actaully people still taking FOX News seriously. How can anyone even just barely intelligent enough to drool watch that rubbish?
Makes me wonder if the tossers calling themselves journalists working for that loony bin actaully believe what they’re reporting or if they’re just taking it up the arse by the dark emperor and his gang of war criminals.
October 17th, 2006 at 11:17 pmAnd how would any of you know how many e-mails Wallis gets, unless you bulk mailed him, you hypocrits?
October 18th, 2006 at 5:35 amAww, don’t we think that Rice-a-Phony stutters, stammers, “ummmms”, wrinkles her forehead, and bobs her hairdo around disastrously enough without putting her in the (well deserved) hot seat?
October 18th, 2006 at 2:02 pmI’m surprised that people consider this man Wallace to be worthy of so much angst.
A dog with fleas is amore welcome companion than this upstart.
Wallace, Limbaugh, Stern, Imus, Tom Friedman, you name it are all individuals who think they are opinion formers but are actually “puppets” being used by special interests to further thier filthy causes. And when the job is done they get thrown to the wolves.
Anyone who watches FOX other than for NFL is in need of a shrink and fast!
October 18th, 2006 at 5:11 pmThe Democrats have said what they will do when they win the Senate or the House…what they will do the first day…what they will do in the first 30 days ..what they will do in the first 60 days…its goin to be interesting to see if they will do anything…my guess it will be business as usual…and I cant wait till they start telling us they cant get anything done because the government it is so much worst shape than they thought….its the same thing from the both parties..over and over
October 19th, 2006 at 6:40 pmFor those of you complaining about the font size, there is an easy way to enlarge it. While holding down the control key, rotate the scroll button on your mouse. One direction enlarges it, the other reduces it. This works on many applications.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:20 pmDid you Chris’s father is proud of him? I don’t.
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