POLL: Bush Disapproval Rating At 61 Percent, An All-Time High
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POLL: Bush Disapproval Rating At 61 Percent, An All-Time High
A new CNN poll shows that public disapproval of President Bush has reached an all-time high. Sixty-one percent of Americans now disapprove of Bush’s handling of his job as President:
Some other highlights from the poll:
–64 percent disapprove of Bush’s handling of the war in Iraq.
– 70 percent of women and 58 percent of men now oppose the war in Iraq.
– 60 percent of Americans believe the situation with North Korea can be resolved using only economic and diplomatic measures.
– More than 70 percent of Americans believe the war in Iraq is making it harder for the United States to deal with North Korea.
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And the media continue to puzzle over why a personally popular president cannot move his agenda.
October 16th, 2006 at 4:46 pmSpeaking of North Korea, why so many conflicting reports of whether the air samples contained radiation?
October 16th, 2006 at 4:48 pmWhat is this suppose to mean? S-T-A-Y-T-H-E-C-U-R-S-E people, otherwise say hello to higher gas prices, tax increases, stalled economy etc...
October 16th, 2006 at 4:51 pmPolitical Theory 101: What happens when the population's disapproval rating soars past the 66% needed by Congress to impeach?
In a true Democracy I'd say there'd be a good chance of impeachment.
In a fascist oligarchy I'd say something between diddly and squat.
Let's watch and see...
October 16th, 2006 at 4:54 pmMore than 70 percent of Americans believe the war in Iraq is making it harder for the United States to deal with North Korea.
In other news, 3 out of 10 people are found to be devoid of common sense.
October 16th, 2006 at 4:54 pmI say we need a change in America! We need Rick Santorum for President, and here is why:
Rick Santorum Campaign Ad (Satire)
So funny. I wanted to pee myself.
October 16th, 2006 at 4:56 pmSpeaking of North Korea, why so many conflicting reports of whether the air samples contained radiation?
Comment by Mikey
Same reason 'conflicting reports' have come out on smoking, climate change, etc, etc... Politics - Lie, Inveigle, Obfuscate.
October 16th, 2006 at 4:57 pm70 percent of women and 58 percent of men now oppose the war in Iraq.
Hmmmm....
October 16th, 2006 at 4:59 pmWhat was Nixon's low? I always forget this.
October 16th, 2006 at 4:59 pmGREAT NUMBERS.....if 36% yea, 61% nay...that leaves only 3% undecided (read: influenced by election ads). Less "unsures", the better, for progressive candidates.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:01 pmThat disapproval rating really puts Chimpy's eternal smile into perspective doesn't it. He smiles and chuckles.....because he is insane and a very very very bad man. That smile is very telling......it is his version of giving the finger to the American people---regardless of ....anything that happens in the real worlk or the harm he causes. I can't wait until he can no longer pull it off and comes unglued in public
October 16th, 2006 at 5:01 pmOnly 15 days left in October. Can the surprises get any better than they already have?
October 16th, 2006 at 5:02 pmAnd the culture of corruption doesn't help one bit either.
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001810.php
It seems like someone new is pleading guilty to corruption charges on a daily basis.
I would like to see the Democrats pound away on corruption more forcefully.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:02 pmDo you have a link for the poll??
October 16th, 2006 at 5:03 pm70% of women! That's an amazing number.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:06 pmAmerica's Least Wanted
Glad folks are finally catching on. Better late than never. Of course I can say that only because I wasn't one of the folks killed or maimed in Iraq.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:06 pmI think the President ought to put on his Yale, Male Cheerleader outfit and do some cheers on TV to get us "back in the game". You know, like the one's he used to do when all of the other kids his age were in Vietnam. Well , except for Dick Cheney, he was at home too, but I just can't see him in a cheerleader outfit..although, with all of the queers being outed in the GOP there might be a chance...Nah, he's way to Rob Halford. Just a thought.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:10 pmIt was that spittle-flecked press conference last week. Everytime he's on TV now people go "yikes!" and his numbers drop.
And dlet, I think Nixon hit a low of 27%, but I could be wrong. Also remember reading somewhere that Truman dropped under 30% briefly.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:12 pmOnly 15 days left in October. Can the surprises get any better than they already have?
Comment by unbelievable
I like rhetorical questions. I like to answer them.
I would like the surprises to keep rollin' in. What can Kraftly Karl do about all this?
I like to answer them with another rhetorical question.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:15 pmThis is a good thing for Bush. It shows how the Republicans are winning the true war -- the one for the minds of the Americans. Just wait 'til November when the Republicans win every seat in the House and Senate. You just wait. Mark my words, you darn kids. And get off my lawn!
(Somehow, I think Exley would want someone to say this.)
October 16th, 2006 at 5:17 pmAt what point will GWB come unglued? An excellent question. I don't know, but I would like it to be before 2009.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:17 pmThere's always a new low. Like when Mr. Foley and some of the other guys would have us pages play spin the bottle. He always had easy dares, but when the Bush brothers and their drunken, coke crazed evangelist buddies would show up, or God forbid Mr. Cheney would sneak in, then it got rough...real bad. I used to think it couldn't get worse..these guys always proved me wrong.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:19 pmIf I were Bush, I'd be very worried. He's got two more years of his administration if he doesn't get impeached. Kennedy and Regan were popular during their administrations and Kennedy was killed and Regan was almost killed. It only takes one nut with a gun to say "I don't care if I die." If Bush wants home-grown terrorists, all he has to do is keep doing what he's doing.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:19 pmHe's looked unglued to me for quite a while now.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:23 pm#6 Geebus - Holy crap! Did you read the comments???????WTF????
October 16th, 2006 at 5:23 pmCanteen Boy your a page too?
It's a hard knock life now being a page wonderin if your Rethuglican senator is a perv.... I am unfortunately stuck with Tom Petri in WI but oh well I will live with it as long as he keeps his hands off...
October 16th, 2006 at 5:24 pmim very worried about that 36% of people. I think the question of "would you jump off a bridge if _____ asked you to" has been answered.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:24 pmNot a "surprise", but definitely timely in light of pedo-Foley and the impending elections. Creepy.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:25 pmRUCerious lol
I read them; these people are obviously crazy... I was fighting with myself to not post something demeaning to them. Oh well some idiots never change...
October 16th, 2006 at 5:26 pm64 percent disapprove of Bush’s handling of the war in Iraq.
There is that stubborn 30-something percent again, die-hard supporters of everything Bush. I wonder if these Bush personality cult followers were abused as children; how else to explain their infatuation with an authoritarian father figure?
70 percent of women and 58 percent of men now oppose the war in Iraq
More men with authority issues. Women obviously have nothing to prove or to compensate for -unlike their chest-thumping male counterparts. Maybe more women need to be elected to infuse some sense in American foreign policy?
October 16th, 2006 at 5:26 pmWhen this big nightmare finally blows over. That completely crazy 30% of the public cannot be forgotton. They are somewhat responsible for this nightmare. They cannot mix back into the woodwork. I propose we use all the new domestic detention centers, and lock up these wacks. Its ironic punishment, isn't it.
(The above is satire and intended or entertainment purposes only, any factual occurrances with fictional characters is purly coincindental)
October 16th, 2006 at 5:30 pmMaybe more women need to be elected to infuse some sense in American foreign policy?
Lets frame that as a request, instead of a question.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:31 pmThese low approval ratings are obviously Bill Clinton's fault.
-GSD
October 16th, 2006 at 5:31 pmAh, the "zero factor' it's fianlly come to the surface that no one's commited to making the commitment. Last I heard, in order to whip up sympathy for the "President" they were going to plant a sniper rifle in Cindy Sheehan's car and run out a story about how she had trained with the taliban in Pakistan to take out Mr. Evil. They couldn't find anyone with the cajones big enough to get near someone who had actually made any sacrifices. Seems they get all weak in the knees about the "genuine articles". So , they just decided to make peace with the fact that it was more fun, in fact it was actually meaner, to watch junior make an absloute tit out of himself than make him a martyr.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:33 pmYeah, Gregor, compensation seems to be a big factor with some men.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:36 pmMaybe more women need to be elected to infuse some sense in American foreign policy?
Comment by Gregor Samsa — October 16, 2006 @ 5:26 pm
Anyone who compares data between a country's treatment of women, and their statistics cannot miss the fact that in every case, countries who treat their women as equals to men have been standards of living than those who do not.
While no place is perfect, countries with Equal Rights like Sweden, Canada, Germany, Spain and Norway have much better quality of life than countries that treat their women like second class citizens - like China, The Sudan, Colombia, and Cambodia.
The U.S. is an equal rights amendment, and a cultural adjustment away from fixing much of what is wrong with our nation.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:39 pmGregor excellant post
When will the Bushies leave America? God damn it, it is their fault nothings getting done in this country. Even Bush Sr. thinks his son is a loon...
October 16th, 2006 at 5:40 pmwho treat their women as equals to men have better standards of living than those who do not.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:41 pmUnbelievable I completly agree
I ask this question to all trolls hangin around TP. Why is it in country's where equal rights are givin to all citizens of that country have a higher standard of living? Why is it when a country is more leftist than conservative, suicide rates go down? Come on trolls answer me that!
October 16th, 2006 at 5:42 pmEven Bush Sr. thinks his son is a loon…
Comment by Newprog — October 16, 2006 @ 5:40 pm
Then perhaps it's time to act like a parent and give the little brat a spanking...
(I don't actually condone hitting children, it was just funnier than saying 'send him to his room').
October 16th, 2006 at 5:43 pmI've seen that data before unbelievable. You are correct.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:44 pmIt is toooo precious reading the giddy posts of progs!! Let me indulge your political fan - tasms with why I would not be heartbroken should the Dems take the House:
a.) Errant Repubs would be forced to take a look and see that the base is sick of their spending like "drunken Democrats". Most voters, regardless of Party, HATE "pork-barrel spending" - unless they're union-members who love Big Dig waste projects or "Bridges to Somewhere"....eventually.
b.) If conservatives maintain their slight margin in the Senate , they can provide a layer of protection to the wallets of "average" Americans.
c.) The dual display of "social justice" policy in action and progressive tax burdens will make allow gainfully employed Americans the opportunity to review progressive fiscal policy. (MY FAVOURITE Harry Reid-ism of the past week?? Harry's inability to define "middle class" in respect to the tax increases which won't affect that nebulous class of people..... And you thought Bush was stupid????? Too precious....
P.S. I was looking up the Dems plat form concerning National Security and Border Issues, Domestic Social Issues, etc. and the pages were woefully blank - - plenty of Bush-bashing, but no possible solutions offered....Silly me - I gave too much credit where none is due....
October 16th, 2006 at 5:47 pmUnbelievable lol
If only Bush Sr. would take your advise. Maybe if Bush senior would have stood up to his idiotic and probably mildly retarded son, we as a nation would not be in the mess we are in now.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:50 pmWell! Time to torture more suspects!
October 16th, 2006 at 5:51 pmThanks for the nice feedback, everyone...
I am always stumped when I try to explain myself that 30-odd% who stand behind the Great (mis)Leader no matter what. That is an awful lot of people in a horrible state of denial.
What would it take for them to stop supporting the failed policies of the Bush (mis)administration?
Then again, even Nixon had supporters after his resignation.... ::sigh::
October 16th, 2006 at 5:53 pmMighty Aphrodite I slightly agree
Dems are not the best when it comes to spending, but neither are Republicans. That is why we have such a huge deficit. I belong to C.A.G.W. and am completly against the stupid spending that dems and republicans do (Pork Barrel, Anti-Drug Ads, etc.) However your labeling of Liberals being the problem is actually untrue. In fact one of the most respected politicians of C.A.G.W. is RUSS FEINGOLD.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:53 pmConservative myth 1 has now been debunked... Thx for your input...
NewProg,
The argument I hear against equal rights is that women want 'better than' rights. Ridiculous. We just want to be seen as human beings - not as possessions to covet alongside thy neighbor's oxen and ass...
October 16th, 2006 at 5:58 pmThere you go again, NewProg, using facts during an argument.
You can expect now Mighty Aphrodite's non sequitur and/or change of subject, unable as (s)he is to refute what you just stated.
Ah, the utterly unable trolls that haunt ThinkProgress...
October 16th, 2006 at 6:00 pmThe new congress needs to arrange things so Bush and Cheney will pray for habeas corpus.
October 16th, 2006 at 6:02 pm#23
Homegrown terrorists? We have those, and most of them are in teh White House. The remainder hide among the Congress.
October 16th, 2006 at 6:03 pmI’ve seen that data before unbelievable. You are correct.
Comment by ForTruth — October 16, 2006 @ 5:44 pm
I think it also makes sense. That when you give respect, you get it in return - and that the culture will flourish out of that respect. And conversely, that a culture based on disrespect will be disrespectful...
There's a teacher at my school who the students detest. He expects them to worship him (he's a seriously religious person who quotes the Bible as if it is fact and is pissed off that he can't preach in the classroom). In his patriarchal perspective, he demands that as an authortarian man, that children should obey him or suffer his wrath. He gives them not one ounce of respect or responsibility in his classroom, and in return, they go out of their way to make his classroom life as miserable as he makes theirs. I think the analogy is the same for countries that treat woman in the same vein, or worse...
October 16th, 2006 at 6:05 pmThe worse it gets for the constitution rapists the more structured mighty's posts become...
October 16th, 2006 at 6:06 pmYou're a whore, mighty. There's still a little time left before your masters cut and run if you want to go serve your country in Iraq...
Then again, even Nixon had supporters after his resignation…. ::sigh::
Comment by Gregor Samsa — October 16, 2006 @ 5:53 pm
My parents.
Though, mom now criticizes Bush and calls him "that idiot". As long as 30% is never considered a majority, I think there is hope... :)
October 16th, 2006 at 6:07 pmNewProg - If Gregrrr Samsa disagrees and finds Swedish cuisine, "gastronomically adventurous" - you may wish to decline his dinner invitation - unless you love bland, boring and tasteless food....
Must be running , Happy Progs....
October 16th, 2006 at 6:09 pmYep Greg yer right.
I tried to have a decent conversation with Mighty, but she just blew it off. Maybe a more decent troll will come on....
October 16th, 2006 at 6:11 pmMighty.... what is your point?
I was talking about C.A.G.W. and Russ Feingold, and you change the subject to Sweden? Nice try but this fish aint going to bite....
October 16th, 2006 at 6:13 pmBiggest strategic military blunder in history. YES YES YES EVEN worse than Hitler's trip to Russia! Worse than Napoleons!
October 16th, 2006 at 6:13 pmGoing to Iraq with the new "Light and Mobile" military! What a joke! Jokes on you, bitches!
Having been to Sweden on several occasions, I was struck by several things:
a.) the people seem very nice.
Your OPINION. When I wa sthere, there was a political protest that turned very ugly and peope began to fight. Police with tear gas and attack dogs had to show up to control the crowd. Come on, they did have Vikings as ancestors...
b.) the food and people are VERY bland.
Your OPINION. I had several very intellectual conversations with people there, but NEVER with you. And no one made up silly puerile names for other people to mask their inferiority issues like you do.
c.) the uniformity of the houses was shocking. Individuality did not appear to be valued.
Your OPINION. Scandinavian design is and has been very hot and trendy for a number of years. Unlike the California suburban sprawl painted in community required shades of beige.
I hope this helps you understand
Comment by mighty+aphrodite — October 16, 2006 @ 6:00 pm
Yes, that you do not understand that Your OPINION is not fact. And you are so insecure that you have to insult others to feel better about your miserable existence.
Go away. It smells better around here when you are gone.
October 16th, 2006 at 6:14 pmUnbelievable
I am glad your parents woke up to the stupidity that is the Bush Administration. Hopefully more people will follow...
(On a side note, is it me or is all the trolls who come here undebatable?)
October 16th, 2006 at 6:15 pm#48
What does bland food and uniform housing have to do with anything? By that rationnel, school shootings must be proof that individuality is highly valued...
October 16th, 2006 at 6:15 pmUmbelievable don't bother
Trolls cant understand big words, nor can they spell. I could barely understand what Mighty was even talking about. Maybe she should join the ranks of Darlyl "Hitler" II...
October 16th, 2006 at 6:17 pmI am glad your parents woke up to the stupidity that is the Bush Administration. Hopefully more people will follow…
Just mom. My dad died almost 13 years ago. He was giving money to Ross Perot to start the People's Party, so by now, he might have woken up as well. He did vote for Jimmy Carter once... :)
(On a side note, is it me or is all the trolls who come here undebatable?)
Comment by Newprog — October 16, 2006 @ 6:15 pm
Yes. Especially Mighty A. He (we're certain he is not a she) likes to insult others to feel good about himself. His 'children' are undoubtedly pets, and his 'husband' who he calls Mr. Aphrodite is obviously a fantasy. This person just regurgitates Rush talking points, and when cornered, resorts to ad hominem attacks and chnages the subject.
He claims to be a lawyer. There's no way.
October 16th, 2006 at 6:21 pmIf Gregrrr Samsa disagrees and finds Swedish cuisine, “gastronomically adventurous†-
Comment by mighty+aphrodite — October 16, 2006 @ 6:09 pm
As I said, Mighty Aphrodite has mastered the art of non-sequiturs and logical fallacies. Put it all in a bowl, mix generously with ignorance, let it rest, and you get a comment like the one above.
It is known that Scandinavian countries do not have a very diverse cuisine -but that is a consequence of latitude and not of political system. Compare it with Chinese cuisine, one of the richest and most diverse cuisines in the world. Or with French cuisine (don't forget that wingnuts call France a "socialist country"), also one of the richest in the world.
So, where is your cuisine-political system link now, Mighty? And what does that have to do with living standards?
October 16th, 2006 at 6:23 pmFlighty far Righty, it doesn't look too good for the "Stay the Course" bunch. We can't go one week without another investigation into the missdeads of a Republican. I can't remember, was sexual predators and strong arm lobbying tactics part of that "Contract with America"?
October 16th, 2006 at 6:24 pm"Go away. It smells better around here when you are gone."
Comment by unbelievable
*****Your OPINION - - FYI - Contemporary Scan furniture has been around for generations - clean lines and lack of superfluous design flourishes should appeal to the minimalists out there... but YOU knew that....
BTW - I did not say EVERYONR I met in Sweden seemed nice - but naturally, your inclination to demonstrate your version of "THE TRUTH" gets in the way....I do not disagree with you about "respect" - you may want to see what the largest disciplinary problems high schools in the 1950's had to contend with. (I doubt you'll find too many drugs or guns in the mix...)
October 16th, 2006 at 6:25 pm#66 I'm sure there's a food blog site for you to espouse these culinary discoveries.
October 16th, 2006 at 6:28 pmThank you, Gregrrrr for reminding me of the gatronomical sensation roast horse creates in France - those progressive Frenchies!! P.J O'Rourke had an excellent description of Swedish uniformity in his book, "Eat the Rich". the chapter on Sweden describes the uniquely Swedish concept of "lagom" well.... Hint: it's about as exciting as sour cream marinated herring...
Thanks for playing.....
October 16th, 2006 at 6:36 pm"I learnt the lesson on nonviolence from my wife, when I tried to bend her to my will. Her determined resistance to my will on the one hand, and her quiet submission to the suffering my stupidity involved on the other, ultimately made me ashamed of myself and cured me of my stupidity in thinking that I was born to rule over her."
October 16th, 2006 at 6:43 pm-- Gandhi
Thanks for playing…..
Comment by mighty+aphrodite — October 16, 2006 @ 6:36 pm
And after being educated on the cuisines of the world, reminded that that has nothing to do whatever with Bush's disapproval rate, or with a country's living standards, Mighty Aphrodite's delusional response is to act as if he had won the upper hand, and declare victory.
But then (s)he also likes to pretend (s)he is a lawyer. What a joke.
October 16th, 2006 at 6:47 pm*****Your OPINION - -
No, it's a fact. Figures you can't tell tehdifference... Or adhere to your promise to ignore me.
FYI - Contemporary Scan furniture has been around for generations - clean lines and lack of superfluous design flourishes should appeal to the minimalists out there… but YOU knew that….
Considering I said it, of course. Took you a while to google it though...
BTW - I did not say EVERYONR I met in Sweden seemed nice - but naturally, your inclination to demonstrate your version of “THE TRUTH†gets in the way….I do not disagree with you about “respect†- you may want to see what the largest disciplinary problems high schools in the 1950’s had to contend with. (I doubt you’ll find too many drugs or guns in the mix…)
Comment by mighty+aphrodite — October 16, 2006 @ 6:25 pm
You're an absolutist, of course you meant everyone. You didn't say that you didn't.
I have no respect issues from my students. In fact, the reason I know about their disdain for the teacher I mentioned is that they make excuses to leave his class to come to mine - including students who are not in any of my classes. They like my class because I make it interesting and because I respect them in the first place - a very LIBERAL trait.
October 16th, 2006 at 6:48 pmmighty aphrodite,
Herr Gud!
What is wrong with you? You want to be a foul mouthed fool and blow your smoke about Americans, fine. I really don’t care because you all are about to sink into the depths of hell anyway. Deservedly so, by the way. Unless there is a sea change like everyone here hopes but your ilk is fighting tooth and nail against.
But now you want to slight the Swedes because, why, you think that they are an easy target? You’re an idiot.
So they don’t have a McDonalds on every corner and you think that gives you license to insult their cuisine. They are also not fat like Americans either. Ponder that while you are choking down your supersized McSaturated burger with cheese and a heaping dose of cardio-clogging fries.
Then you wonder why so many of their houses look alike. Why, because they are not brand new Chia burbs like you Americans love to stuff yourselves into? You do realize that their history dates back to the Vikings right? You know, some 1,800 or so years ago. They didn’t have stucco back then moron. The average Swedish home contains furniture that is older than the US. But even that simple fact eludes you.
And then you have the audacity to criticize their elegant designs as being “minimalistâ€. The only thing minimal I see is your intelligence. So minimal, in fact, I don’t even think that it can be measured on a quantum scale.
Complain all you want about Americans, most of it is deserved in some form or fashion. But when you start insulting the rest of the world because it is not the gluttonous den of murderous malcontents that the US has become, well you need to back way off. Remove the post from your eye before you offer your help to remove the splinter from others.
May peace be with us all.
October 16th, 2006 at 6:51 pmI just happen to like:
1) Roast horse (not too often though). In these countries, horses have not been used to tame the Unknown Frontier thus they can safely land on the plate without causing a ruckus.
2) Sour cream marinated herring
....Thus?
October 16th, 2006 at 6:51 pmWhatever. We'll see you on November 7th. After the Democrat's humiliating defeat, us neocons will be this blog all day, shoving it right up your ass. GET SOME!
October 16th, 2006 at 6:55 pm"Not by accident, you may be sure, do the Christian Scriptures make the father of knowledge a serpent--slimy, sneaking and abominable."
October 16th, 2006 at 6:57 pm-- H. L. Mencken
Dear "Humanist of Hubris" - - You're so easy to ignore - but if you pick up the chic magazine DWELL - they specialize in celebrating minimalism. The rest of your mental spittle isn't worth much, but I thought your ignorance should be exposed for those who celebrate minimalism... No more time to waste on you....
October 16th, 2006 at 6:57 pmThus?
Comment by El+Tonno — October 16, 2006 @ 6:51 pm
In Mighty Aphrodite's bizarro world, that probably means you are a commie, pinko, Islamic-appeasing, terrorist-loving, America-hating librul, or something like that...
October 16th, 2006 at 6:59 pmHey Mighty,
I am convinced you are well read.
Now, is there any other reason for you to be here?
October 16th, 2006 at 6:59 pmComment by Culture Warrior
Just remember to use some K-Y, I will thank you for it.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:01 pmus neocons will be this blog all day, shoving it right up your ass. GET SOME!
Comment by Culture Warrior — October 16, 2006 @ 6:55 pm
Looks like another Log Cabin Republican just came our of tehcloset. Good for you CW. It's okay for you to be gay.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:01 pmThe freakin' wacked 30 percenters are angry today, they smash things.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:05 pmForTruth and Mighty-
Whatever. You are the ones that are gay. You are the party that celebrates homosexuality. At least when one of us turns out to be a fag, we actually have some shame.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:05 pmHow did Culture Warrier come up with the name "Log Cabin" for his group.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:06 pmmighty aphrodite,
Please ignore me. Nothing could make me happier than knowing that your stench shall not waft my way ever again.
But unlike you, I have been to Sweden and have many friends there (you may have physically visited, but I am certain that you were never “thereâ€). A more peaceful and caring people you will not find on the planet. And it has a rich heritage and culture that deserves respect, not flippant references by a warmongering fool looking to paint themself as "cultured".
Stick to what you know, m.a., but I doubt your brand of gutter wisdom will be much appreciated.
Peace.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:07 pmIts only the people that want to shove thier ideals down everyone's throats that believe there is some sort of culture war going on.
Right Culture Warrier? thats what your name implys, that you are a warrier in the "culture war".
October 16th, 2006 at 7:08 pmAt least when one of us turns out to be a fag, we actually have some shame. Comment by Culture+Warrior
Your latest turnout of shame involved a sexual predator and minors. Not a fag. Even your buddy Billy O. tried to clarify the difference, and you still don't get it. Keep posting, you will be your own killer.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:10 pmThis thread has hit a soft spot on the underbelly of our conservative friends. They are really on the offensive here.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:11 pmSockpuppet Warrier,
Mighty is on your side you dumb-a**. You don't even know the difference between a homosexual and a sexual predator. Don't even start with homosexuals are predators anyway crap. Why do you concern your thoughts with so much homosexual acitivity?
October 16th, 2006 at 7:15 pm> when one of us turns out to be a fag, we actually have some shame
You are trolling right? Or else, be ashamed but quietly then please so as not to annoy any grown-ups.
On a side-note, El Tonno recommends the film "Occupation: Dreamland", which shows a squad of the 82nd patrolling Falluja in 2004, before things really blew up. Nobody is happy...
October 16th, 2006 at 7:15 pm#85-
Your damn right. Somebody needs to restore and keep the moral compass in this country. Republicans are the closest thing we have to a vehicle that will make this happen. At the present point in history, the United States is very much like Rome when she was at the height of her power. Like Rome, noone can defeat us, militarily, or economically. The USA can only fall by rotting from within, which is how Rome eventually fell. This country cannot allow morally bankraupt people to come to power, ie the Democrats and all they stand for. If you define establishing and keeping the moral standards to be "shoving ideals down your throat", then so be it.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:17 pmHomosexuals are sexual predators. Point blank. You don't practice that kind of depravity if you have any kind of moral boundaries.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:20 pmComment by Culture+Warrior
How's your own back yard lookin' buddy? Since you are suddenly interested in mine, lets have a looky at yours? Anything you want to share?
And you better find some real conservatives to vote for, the ones in currently have made a fool out of you.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:22 pmI will pray for your soul Culture Warrier.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:23 pmHomosexuals are sexual predators. Point blank. You don’t practice that kind of depravity if you have any kind of moral boundaries.
Comment by Culture+Warrior
Either you are kinda young, and need some time to grow up. Or you are a flat out wack-job. You are a fearful, scared, little man.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:24 pm[...] UPDATE: Liquid Paper points out I may be mistaken and it is the 61% disapproval that’s the all-time high. In any case, let us come to the real point, Bush sure is “peaking” just before the elections. Good job Karl. [...]
October 16th, 2006 at 7:26 pmANYONE GOT ANY HISTORICAL CONTEXT ON THESE FIGURES? ARE THESE THE WORST?
HAS EVERYONE GOT TROUBLE READING FONT SIZE ON COMMENTS? WE COULD START WRITING IN CAPITALS TO OVERCOME THIS.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:27 pmLike Rome, noone can defeat us, militarily, or economically. The USA can only fall by rotting from within, which is how Rome eventually fell. This country cannot allow morally bankraupt people to come to power, ie the Democrats and all they stand for. If you define establishing and keeping the moral standards to be “shoving ideals down your throatâ€, then so be it.
Comment by Culture+Warrior —
Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha, ...
October 16th, 2006 at 7:27 pmRepublicans are thieves and murderers. Conservatives are pedophiles and rapists.
See CW, it's easy to throw out absolute statements. And I can even fairly easily seem to substantiate them. But, anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows that such absolutisms aren't logically possible.
So all that you've been able to prove is that you don't maintain even the most modest level of intelligence.
Good luck with that.
Peace.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:28 pmCulture Warrior, I'm guessing that come November 8 you're going to be down on your knees talking to yourself. That's what your people do when faced with a challenge, right?
And when you're having that conversation, ask God, errrrr, yourself, why it is that the people you think are there to guard "moral values" have been taking bribes, covering up for sexual predators, lying to start an illegal war and working to protect a system of forced sex labor and forced abortions in the Northern Marianas.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:29 pm"ANYONE GOT ANY HISTORICAL CONTEXT ON THESE FIGURES? ARE THESE THE WORST?"
I believe Nixon still holds the record for poor numbers in the modern era of poll-taking. Right before impeachment proceedings were scheduled to begin, he was in the mid-20's I believe..... But this a-hole is knocking on the door.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:31 pm90--- Somebody needs to restore and keep the moral compass in this country. Republicans are the closest thing we have to a vehicle that will make this happen.--- uncultured wannabe warrior
Yeah the repugs have been in power for 6 years. Covering up for a pedophile is just the latest in a series of scandals , arrests, investigations and just plain stealing this countries bank.
How stupid can you be to want the same bunch of criminals to clean up the mess they have made.
You sir should really take those meds your psychiatrist told you to take.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:31 pm#4. I pick number two. :P
October 16th, 2006 at 7:33 pm#11. Amen!
October 16th, 2006 at 7:35 pmRepubs have run the House for 12 years. They've had the executive branch for 6 years and control a broad swath of the judiciary. Everyone agrees that corruption is out of hand.
Culture Warrior's solution: let the repubs clean things up.
That's classic.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:36 pmAt the present point in history, the United States is very much like Rome when she was at the height of her power.
You mean that it was secured by a largely mercenary army, as the imperial scheme by this time had decimated the farmer/soldier basis that had led to their successes?
Or that the "rule of law" was so weighted towards the rich landowners at this point that there were riots by the poor of Rome?
October 16th, 2006 at 7:37 pmThe newest Repub campaign ad.
Getting your knob varnished at the local asian massage -- 100 dollars
Buying as many votes as possible -- 1,000,000 dollars
Having Diebold around in a close election -- Priceless
October 16th, 2006 at 7:42 pm> How stupid can you be to want the same bunch of criminals to clean up the mess they have made.
Who was it that said that people will not only admit to having eaten a shit sandwich, they will actually attack those who point out that they have eaten a shit sandwich; then do it again.
That or the hope of getting the US counterpart of the Iranian theocracy through repeated application of GOP springs eternal.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:46 pm99 - "And when you’re having that conversation, ask God, errrrr, yourself, why it is that the people you think are there to guard “moral values†have been taking bribes, covering up for sexual predators, lying to start an illegal war and working to protect a system of forced sex labor and forced abortions in the Northern Marianas. " Comment by Bluedog49
******Dear BlueDawg Humanist - I am very impressed with your understanding of American History - sadly, that subject has gotten short shriff in American schools during the last 20 years.
I was curious your opinion of the moral values of the progressive movement and: Conressman William "Ice Bank" Jefferson, the sex-ploitation by Dem Congressmen Studds and Frank, the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, illegal immigration.... Thanks for your input...
October 16th, 2006 at 7:49 pmW is dyslexic, he considers himself a doG.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:51 pm#98 - "Republicans are thieves and murderers. Conservatives are pedophiles and rapists."
******Humanist - I apologize for stating the obvious BUT you are an IDIOT. FYI, MOST of the inmates in Americasn prisons have mothers who vote Democrat - iif they are not prohibited from voting themselves....
October 16th, 2006 at 7:54 pm#31. "When this big nightmare finally blows over. That completely crazy 30% of the public cannot be forgotton. They are somewhat responsible for this nightmare. They cannot mix back into the woodwork. I propose we use all the new domestic detention centers, and lock up these wacks. Its ironic punishment, isn’t it."
I've watched these people post on Repub sites. They will not refute anything. Liberals post arguements of well known ideas you can find out in encyclopedias, or have some minor understanding of the values of conservatives. And they will not refute anything. Just spitting and hissing from the fevered Psychopathics: "Your wrong FOOL!, why don't you go...."
We are not dealing with rational people like you or I.
It's the whole my-way-or-the-highway attitude for these prejudiced oppressors that will fail them. Irrational denial of reality.
...The whole MSM is a complete lie, repubs claim...which basically means (and Republicans have said this) that all media TV and the newspaper is falsehood!
That means we have 30% of the population who think reality itself is a lie and they are all right! This is Psychopathy.
And Republicans have no idea of the political ideology they follow! They are accusing the left of wanting power, control, they have no idea that conservatism thinking has been the cause behind things like slavery. If they where educated they would find out they were on the wrong side!strong> Too many times I have heard from Republicans: "I want you to stop controlling my life!"
...what the hell are they thinking, Conservative thinking is the political agenda that wants control over your body when it comes to drugs, prositution, abortion, gay marrige, scientific research i.e. stemcells, gambling,
It just boggles my mind how backwards they think, and think they are right with so much defiance.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:56 pmculture worrier - do we make you horny? Does Rove? or Melmann?
October 16th, 2006 at 7:58 pmCome on, tell us why you're still in the closet?
Mighty A, if William Jefferson is guilty of taking bribes or influence peddling or whatever, he should be prosecuted just like your current crop of republican crooks. If Barney Franks has been trolling for teenagers, he's also got to go. Do you have any proof that he's been doing that? I don't think so.
But, as usual, instead of addressing the points we make on these threads, you're all about obfuscation. I'm not sure why someone like you, in the face of all this corruption and mendacity can continue to sit there and defend. It's beginning to look a little like mental illness.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:58 pmMighty Assbag,
You still have the nerve to show up here and spew your venom after all of the disgraced Repug's going to jail or are soon to be...?
You truly have no active basis into reality. Everything needs to fit into your neat little life package, or else it's dismissed.
It's called a narcissistic personality.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:59 pm#110-
"MOST of the inmates in Americasn prisons have mothers who vote Democrat"
How could you possibly know that? Corruption goes both ways, but anyone with an ounce of analytical brain power should realize that Republican control of the government has lead to the most incredible mushroom of corruption and greed in the history of our nation.
http://www.getsomejosh.com
October 16th, 2006 at 8:00 pm#110. HAHAHA! What does that mean? Does it mean they vote to fix a system that victimizes their children? I think so.
Why don't you just come out and say your own bigoted slop if you've got something to say!
October 16th, 2006 at 8:00 pmthe sex-ploitation by Dem Congressmen Studds and Frank, the Gulf of Tonkin resolution -- the Teapot Dome Scandal, TVA, Hooverville, and the Treaty of Ghent.
I am very impressed with your understanding of American History - sadly, that subject has gotten short shriff in American schools during the last 20 years. MA
Along with vocabulary and usage, it seems, Mr. Attorney. I truly believe you when you say you got "short shrift" -ed by the educational system, Piddles.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:00 pmI am taking the liberty of posting a copy of a beautiful post by "Your Conscience" on the thread above about Weldon. This post is for all the psychos like Culture Warrior, Daryll, hellpig, Hendler, Mark Glesne, Moonbat Hunter, et al. to read and think about.
Here is the post:
WE ARE CONTARDS AND THIS IS OUR SONG
It’s the liberals. It’s the ACLU. It’s Clinton. It’s Monica. It’s the “climate of permissivenessâ€. It’s France. It’s the liberal media. It’s Clinton’s p*nis. It’s Hillary. It’s Gov. Dean. We never could have known they’d fly planes into buildings. “No actionable intelligenceâ€. They didn’t tell us to do anything. O’Neill’s lying. Clarke’s lying. General Shinseki’s lying. The Union of Concerned Scientists is lying. Our own weapons inspector David Kay’s lying. Wilson’s lying. John Dean’s lying. Newsweek lied! CBS lied! Everyone’s lying but us. We had to lie. We never lied.
Plame outed herself. Her husband outed her. The liberals outed her. No one outed her, since everyone already knew her covert identity. Rove had nothing to do with it. No comment. Lib’ral, lib’ral, lib’ral.
It’s the libs trying to pull Schiavo’s feeding tube. It doesn’t matter that DeLay pulled his own dad’s feeding tube. “Culture of lifeâ€. It’s Janet Jackson’s boobs; it’s the Statue of Justice’s boobs. Reading the news might cloud my judgement. It’s the “decade our government…blinded itself to our enemiesâ€. It’s the homosexuals wanting to marry. “Restore honor and dignity to the White Houseâ€. A decision to go to war wasn’t a decision to go to war. “No actionable intelligenceâ€. It’s the pledge of allegiance. They’re taking God out of America. Osama didn’t tell us when, how, where, and by what means he’d attack, and he didn’t leave a forwarding address. The 9/11 panel is biased against us. Saddam = Al Qaida. Saddam = Al Qaida.
Chalabi’s an honorable man and I believe everything he says about WMDs. Chalabi’s a crook and he passed secrets to Iran. Chalabi’s the liberals’ fault because they didn’t shoot us when we started using his “intelligenceâ€. Chalabi? I don’t know any ‘Chalabi’!
It’s just a few dead-enders. They’ll be gone when we capture Saddam. They’ll be gone when we capture Saddam’s sons. They’ll be gone when we hand over “sovereigntyâ€. They’ll be gone when Iraq has elections. They’ll be gone in 12 years. They’ll never be gone.
We fight them in London so we don’t have to fight them, er, uh, well, can’t get fooled again!
Bolton didn’t lie! He just knowingly gave incorrect answers under oath.
Aw, so what’s another ISLAMIC STATE in the mideast? It’s not like Bush has made it a home for terrorists or anything!
No one could have anticipated that a category 5 hurricane aimed directly at New Orleans would have destroyed it! No one could have anticipated that they might need federal assistance quickly! Of course no one’s in charge of accepting the generous aid offered by other nations — isn’t that the mayor’s responsibility? Being a judging supervisor for the Arabian Horse Association is ample experience to head FEMA! It’s the mayor’s fault! It’s the governor’s fault! It’s Howard Dean’s fault! It’s CBS’s fault! It’s the Monica Crime! Ted Kennedy killed Mary Jo! Libtards killed Terry Schiavo! Wah! Wahhhhhhh!
It’s all these former staffers hawking their books. Money never corrupted anyone. “I’m a uniter, not a divider!†It’s the stem cells. It’s the feminazis, the intellectual elitists, and the ecoterrorists.
It’s Cthulhu. It’s the martians.
It’s anyone but Bush.
Comment by Your+Conscience — October 16, 2006 @ 6:14 pm
October 16th, 2006 at 8:01 pmAs I have said in other polls posted at Think Progress, not many populations in countries under lawless dictatorships are very happy with their leadership.
Bush has been given the powers of a dictator freely by congress under the Military Detention bill about to be signed tomorrow. I hope you have read it, and finally comment on it. Alot of your readers have been perplexed as to the seeming black out of discussion of it by a blog, yours, that has garnered alot of respect from your readership.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:02 pmW is a true Texas implant..
...all 'bluster', no hat.
"Heh, heh, heh" should be a national swear word.
I can't imagine the pain of those who have served and believed.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:02 pm> At the present point in history, the United States is very much like Rome when she was at the height of her power.
Time to re-read my Gibbon (who is looking at the evolution of the Roman empire in terms of decay instead of change, an error IMHO). But - where is the 'height of the power'? For those who like their historical analogies piping hot, please note that the empire divided into Red and Blue, sorry, West and East and whereas the West was quickly resorbed by repeated invasions, the East continued for another 1000 years or so.
...until it was finally done in, not by the Turks but by the Venetians which tactically redirected the crusaders to sack Constantinople instead to take a trip to Jerusalem. Nicely done.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:04 pmBluedog49,
She's referring to Gerry Studds (who died this weekend. Nice, MA)
He fell in love with a page in the early 70's and had an affair.
The page also backed up the claim. I believe he was 17. He repented in front of the House, and to his constituents, and was re-elected.
Studds was openly gay.
Nothing at all like the slimey underhandedness (is that spelled right?) of Foley. No predatory actions.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:06 pmThey just have to dig 30-odd years into the past to "get something".
SAD!
Dear Bleu - I only point out the glaring hypocrisy of many on the LEFT - I despise corruption, perverts and liars....and too many Dems can be counted on to look the other way. Repubs kick our offenders and criminals to the curb - Dems re-elect theirs.... I'm beginning to think its a mental problem with many in your camp. How else can you defend the re-election of Senator Swimmer - I mean, Kennedy...
Dear Josh P - In my profession, I work with many criminals - I get a few Falwell backers - they're the white collar crime guys and the Feds love sending them to Leavenworth and Terminal Island - such a dichotomy. On the other end of the spectrum, I have yet to be assigned to represent a gang banger with a Repub mom - I'm sure there are some...but there aren't many....
October 16th, 2006 at 8:11 pm#90. "Somebody needs to restore and keep the moral compass in this country. Republicans are the closest thing we have to a vehicle that will make this happen. This country cannot allow morally bankraupt people to come to power, ie the Democrats and all they stand for. If you define establishing and keeping the moral standards to be “shoving ideals down your throatâ€, then so be it."
This is what I am talking about in my previous post.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:12 pmFirst off what this nut thinks is we should all, ALL OF US, live by his narrowminded, stick-in-the-mud, frightened and paranoid version of morals. And this persons views are that of the CHURCH. It is oppression. Which brings me to "shoving ideals down your throat" comment, I think this means this person believes that the left/Democrats are "shoving ideals down your throat", YET, the people who are making legistlation to control you and your family are the REPUBLICANS!!!! You dolt! You dolts! Switch sides now if that is what you believe!
Comment by Newprog — October 16, 2006 @ 6:15 pm
There is no debating the "trolls" however, one may engage in discoarse with them if one chooses. 'for my part, I use the trolls to continue to hone my research skills. It's too easy to debunk their inane arguments, and they almost never post any kind of link to support their claims, which are almost always false.
Their word parsing, misquoting and putting words in other's mouths gets a bit tiresome at times. And Mighty Aphrodite gets absolutely freaked whenever I pull a Rune for her.
Most of the times, the "trolls" postings just adds further to their own damnation. They have no clue to the Universal law of Karma, "what goes around, comes around," "judge not, lest ye be judged, by whatsoever measure ye judge a man, so shall ye be judged."
October 16th, 2006 at 8:14 pmI have as much respect for the dead "openly gay" Congrssman as Dems did for dead Repub President Reagan......
October 16th, 2006 at 8:16 pmthe last remaining bush supporters, who are no doubt mentally retarded, should strap on their weapons, march into downtown baghdad, and finally liberate iraq.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:18 pmlets free the iraq's from the war they did not start nor want, parade those wmd that bush invaded over, lets give proper funderals to the hundreds of thousand of women and children that god told bush to kill.
having a president who believes that god chose him to invade iraq defies reason, bush is certifiable. having to account to no one makes bush a dictator, a dangerous and evil dictator.
"god bless america", what a pathetic joke.
30 years ago, Mighty Assbag.
30 years ago, Mighty Assbag.
30 years ago, Mighty Assbag.
30 years ago, Mighty Assbag.
30 years ago, Mighty Assbag.
30 years ago, Mighty Assbag.
30 years ago, Mighty Assbag.
Or, 37 years ago with Kennedy. No charges. Nothing.
How many Repukes just this year?
Weak. Weak a$$ arguement that no one is buying.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:19 pmGood evening shoppers, we have a post alert....
October 16th, 2006 at 8:23 pmClean up on post #90 Culture warped has lost his marbles, could the shrink wrap crew please clean this up....Blessings
So how old would Mary Jo Kopechne be, BleuPUP??? Knowing your standards are selective is good enough for me!
October 16th, 2006 at 8:24 pmDem's don't rip into Reagan on a daily basis, nor use him as some puppet.
He's gone. His politics are of the 80's. Why would I resurrect him to go on some tangent?
Only your supposed "Moral Party" do that.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:25 pmI wonder how many people would support impeachment for all the evil sh!t Bush has been doing all these years.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:26 pm"....the “trolls†postings just adds further to their own damnation...."
Braid Faire
****Dear Braidy - I had to read that passage again! If I didn't know better, I would think you were just another judgemental religious fundamentalist... Ooooga, boooogah.....
Have a great week!!!!
October 16th, 2006 at 8:27 pmThere will always be about 35% who support Bush no matter what Dubya Dunce Decider Despot does > even if Bush admitted he had sex with Jeff Gannon, then kissed and groped him on TV to prove it, the 35% would still back Bush and blame Clinton > lol.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:29 pmInteresting, Mighty Afraudite returns after an all too brief period of not posting much here. But her style is different....almost mellow, for her. She still claims to be an attorney, however.
So, tell us, Mighty Afraudite, what civil rights will be lost the instant Bush signs the Military Commission Bill? What are the XIV Amendment implications?
Would you like me to pull another Rune for you?
October 16th, 2006 at 8:29 pmHere's one view on how the Universe works:
http://groups.msn.com/BeyondTheMistsOfMagick/universallaws.msnw
If you take the time to read them, you'll notice many of the same principles echoed in various diverse religions.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:33 pmNarcissistic Personality Disorder
American Description
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Diagnostic Criteria
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
October 16th, 2006 at 8:34 pmis preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
requires excessive admiration
has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Get help, MA
Jay, Bush doesn't pay attention to polls. Who needs to when you have Diebold counting your votes for you?
October 16th, 2006 at 8:35 pmYes, Braidy - I've been in trial....sweet of you to notice my absence....In fact, I leave Wednesday evening for a case which commences in a neighbouring state. Naturally, Braidy - You declined to discuss your own your own judgementalism .... what would your friends at the latte shop think????
October 16th, 2006 at 8:37 pmWhat are the XIV Amendment implications?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — October 16, 2006 @ 8:29 pm
This is a question a real lawyer would have no problems answering. Which means Mighty Aphrodite can easily write a powerful, lengthy, cogent reply in his sleep -right?
/sarcasm off
October 16th, 2006 at 8:38 pmSo you've got two morons (mighty aphrodite & culture warrior) spewing out their insensibilities on how one political party is better than the other or how one team is holier than its counter part.
But, is not this thread about how a vast majority of your country disapproves of its president? I mean, I suspect I have as much law-schoolin' as m.a. but it doesn't take a law degree to know that you are being duped.
What you should be discussing is how to throw the bums out. Instead you have morons leading you on a conversation as to whose pond scum is more, well, scummy.
Save yourselves and let m.a. and c.w. dwell in the scum. They seem to like it there.
May peace be with us all.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:45 pm#135 Because they believe in Bush is a man of GOD who support a strong Chistianity power?
October 16th, 2006 at 8:46 pmYes Faire > Bush seems unfazed by polls, and is unconcerned about the November election, so Diebold CEO told him their voting machines are rigged for the GOP again!
October 16th, 2006 at 8:46 pmshows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
October 16th, 2006 at 8:47 pm...just outed yourself, MA.
This one looks too scary. But what the hell.
Hey, remember, we are here to remind Mighty that millions and millions of people vehemently disagree with her.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:53 pmAgreed. What do you think the options are if elections are controlled by the Party in Power?
October 16th, 2006 at 8:56 pmThat's why I couldn't bellieve she showed up again. Defending the indefensible, again.
But I'm done with MA.
October 16th, 2006 at 8:58 pmI lost sight of the fact that there is no point in responding to her.
My Bad. Sorry, TP.
What do you think the options are if elections are controlled by the Party in Power?
Comment by Briseadh+na+Faire
A Guillotine in the middle of the crowd.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:08 pmThere are no trials for the crimes of these people.
I'm amazed how excited people get over the results from polls.
First of all it was an extremly small poll.
The telephone poll of 1,012 adult Americans was conducted by Opinion Research Corporation Friday through Sunday.
Its sampling error was plus-or-minus 3 percentage points
I'm sure anyone here with a "working brain" also know the results can be a result of leading questions.
I'm glad polls like this bring joy to so many... I know good news is hard to come by so lets get excited about polls.
I have alot of issues with President Bush that I do not support or agree on. That however does not mean I'm stupid enough to go vote for Al or Hillary.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:10 pmOoooga, boooogah….
Comment by mighty+aphrodite
You know Mighty, I think people would be more willing to engage in a higher functioning, civil debate with you, if you would stop pressing people's buttons. You are in fact an expert. I would not want to be on your personal shit list. I think there is a part of you that would like this as well.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:14 pmThat however does not mean I’m stupid enough to go vote for Al or Hillary.
Comment by Steve
Dont worry, Steve. You are stupid enough.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:16 pmIf only I was half as witty as Juan.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:19 pmI have as much respect for the dead “openly gay†Congrssman as Dems did for dead Repub President Reagan……
Comment by mighty+aphrodite
So MA thinks being an openly gay congressman is on the same moral plane as arming both sides of the Iran/Iraq war and selling weapons to the same terrorists who held Americans hostage - while lying to the American people about it with a straight face? And "attorney" MA thinks being an openly gay congressman equates to ignoring Federal statutes - (called "breaking the law"), to fund a brutal Central American insurgency that killed priests, nuns, and those who refused to be recruited?
That's sure a mighty "big tent" you've got there!
October 16th, 2006 at 9:21 pmIf only I was half as witty as Juan.
Comment by Steve
Steve, I apologize for the easy joke, really. You seem, wrong of course, but somehow, you took bashing the other night in a light way. I admire that on a person. Again, I will not insult you again. Still, I think you are wrong in some issues.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:22 pm[...] The real action is El Presidente’s disapproval ratings. The man is positively bottoming out folks. [...]
October 16th, 2006 at 9:23 pmI find it curious that with all of Clinton's supposed high approval ratings, he never got more than 49% of the popular vote. Why do you think that is? Were Republicans fixing elections that long ago? If they were, don't you think they would have done it so BushI would have won or Dole? So, I seriously doubt that was the case then or now. The only conclusion that I can come to is these frickening polls are worth the toilet paper that they are taken with! This is just more bullshit tactics by the dems to suppress voter turnout, just like they tried in '04 with the exit polls. Most of America is not that stupid folks. Get ready for a big letdown again this year. Who are you going to blame this time?
October 16th, 2006 at 9:24 pmBarfly you forgot Openly Gay Pedophile Congressman.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:25 pmHe did have sex with an underage Page. Foley however had sex with a 21 Year old Page..... making him just plain Gay.
Damn Juan, I had a nice response but now I would feel bad :)
October 16th, 2006 at 9:27 pmI have pretty thick skin and a "healthy" sense of humor.
Most of America is not that stupid folks.
Comment by Jay
Agreed. You are in the 30%, though.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:27 pmMost of America is not that stupid folks. Get ready for a big letdown again this year. Who are you going to blame this time?
Comment by Jay — October 16, 2006 @ 9:24 pm
You should get used to saying "President Pelosi."
October 16th, 2006 at 9:29 pmDamn Juan, I had a nice response but now I would feel bad :)
Comment by Steve
Come on! I wanna read it. It helps me to get rid of my ego. :)
October 16th, 2006 at 9:30 pm#161
Liberals like yourself seem awfully confident. Ever check any websites that allow you to bet on political races? Guess what? The big money is not on the dems this year. I think the races are not as close as the MSM would like you to believe and certainly not a slam dunk as the kook leftist websites you hang out on, are promoting.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:31 pm#162
If that is the case, why is the MSM suddenly hiding her in the last week? I think their polling data found out that once we got to know her, most of America hates her and everything she stands for. She had the big story in Time and that did her in.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:33 pmExcept the CEOs of:
October 16th, 2006 at 9:33 pmGeneral Dynamics, GM, Lockheed Martin, GE, and other exec directors from war companies.
So, Steve, that makes selling weapons to terrorists and dictators OK?
A congressman was caught being an "Openly Gay Pedophile" - and to you its the same as selling weapons to terrorists? So much for your objectivity. Why do you hate America so much that you would support a traitor like Reagan?
October 16th, 2006 at 9:33 pm#162
You seriously think that Pelosi is on a path to become President? You are more dilusional than I thought! First, you have to win both houses of congress, then seek impeachment of both the President and Vice President in a time of war. Honestly, that makes me sick. Why do you hate this country so much?
October 16th, 2006 at 9:35 pmOk Juan, I was going to follow.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:35 pmIf only I was half as witty as Juan
with..... If you are a NitWit(stupid\sillyperson) and I was half as witty, that would actually make me smarter huh?
Jay's lying of course, or else he would have posted proof.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:35 pmIf that is the case, why is the MSM suddenly hiding her in the last week? I think their polling data found out that once we got to know her, most of America hates her and everything she stands for. She had the big story in Time and that did her in.
Comment by Jay —
What is this MSM? Do you mean the Corporate Controlled media?
October 16th, 2006 at 9:36 pm168
You obviously can't count. If Cheney is indicted, he can no longer break ties in the Senate. The House is already up for grabs, and a few impending republican scandals have yet to be aired - but they will be by election time.
Keep praying for that Karl Rove hailmary pass - it ain't coming.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:40 pmBarfly I'm pretty sure I didn't respond to the remainder of your comment. I was only pointing out what I saw as misstatement. I never entered into the "which party has more morals argument"
October 16th, 2006 at 9:41 pmHonestly, that makes me sick. Why do you hate this country so much?
Comment by Jay —
I don't hate America - just fakes like you, that try to wrap themselves in an undeserved cloak of righteousness and respectability.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:43 pmWhat is this MSM? Do you mean the Corporate Controlled media?
Comment by barfly
Do you really think that the media has a Bias? If you answered yes to that then which way is it biased?
October 16th, 2006 at 9:44 pmSorry Steve, but this type of correction:Openly Gay Pedophile Congressman made it seem as if you were restating my assertion to give moral weight to MA's Reagan/ gay congressman assertions. Even so, do you think a single pedophile congressman compares with Reagan's treachery in arming the same terrorists who held Americans hostage, or any of his other base acts? Wasn't Reagan's treasonous behavior setting the stage for all the death and carnage we see today in relation to terrorism? Don't republicans come to the terrorism debate with decades of blood on their hands?
October 16th, 2006 at 9:55 pmIf you answered yes to that then which way is it biased?
Comment by Steve — October 16, 2006 @ 9:44 pm
Biased towards dollars - and they love those tax breaks, and media-consolidation laws the republicans have pushed through. Get real, buddy.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:57 pmFianlly, people are catching on to the corruption and incompetence within the White House.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:58 pmAnd thanks for not answering MY question, Steve.
October 16th, 2006 at 9:59 pmAnd now, it's time for the real October Surprise. These folks will not go down quietly.....the Eisenhower Carrier Group set sail without a word in the mainstream media....and will get to the waters near Iran on the 21st of October...... They are fully armed and will back up the special ops who have been in Iran for more than a year softening up the next round.
MUST READ: If You Are Not VERY Afraid, You Haven't Been Paying Attention!
Pay attention here:
October 16th, 2006 at 10:04 pm
Reg,
I hope you are wrong. But I wouldn't be too surprised.
October 16th, 2006 at 10:08 pmbarfly.... this thing seems to be slow tonight and I was in the process of answering your question :)
October 16th, 2006 at 10:11 pmWhile I may not agree with how everything in the past was handled I do agree that something had to be done. Who did we want to win the Iran\Iraq war? If you answered no one you are correct.
Either country winning that war would have quickly destabilized the entire region. In Afghanistan we were merely giving the Russians a hard way to go. After all didn't they invade Afghanistan?
Do I think Reagan was a Traitor as you have him painted out to be? Nope... as a matter of fact he was MY Commander in Chief. Do I think elected officials make mistakes? Of course... but let me ask all of you...... and please give this more than a couple of seconds of thought. How hard does it have to be to make the descisions that have the weight of the entire country upon you? Dem Or Rep I think these are great men and deserve the respect of all. Most would not want that amount of responsibility.
First, you have to win both houses of congress, then seek impeachment of both the President and Vice President in a time of war.
Jay
But the republicans showed how easy that was. Cheney will have to recuse himself from any votes on the matter, and he'll have to testify under oath. If details emerge incriminating others in the administration (I look for Libby to make a deal, when he sees Bush won't be able to pardon him) this will be a republican bloodbath.
October 16th, 2006 at 10:14 pmWho did we want to win the Iran\Iraq war? If you answered no one you are correct.
So, don't you think its two-faced to talk of "Saddam's brutality" as republicans do, without acknowledging that they are also culpable, by arming him? In the run-up to the war I didn't see a single war supporter acknowledge this - if you have links that prove differently, I'll concede the point - or that many of the dead in thoses mass graves were killed as a result of Bush 1's urging an internal uprising that he didn't materially support?
Do I think Reagan was a Traitor as you have him painted out to be? Nope… as a matter of fact he was MY Commander in Chief. Do I think elected officials make mistakes?Steve
Does the fact that he was "your commander in Chief" confer upon him immunity from honest scrutiny? As a direct result of his actions, thousands were killed on both sides - and I see you ducked the part about his illegally supporting the Contras. They killed nuns and priests - and yet you revere Reagan?
"Make mistakes" - or make excuses? Do you support his illegal funding of the Contras?
October 16th, 2006 at 10:29 pmHow hard does it have to be to make the descisions that have the weight of the entire country upon you? Dem Or Rep I think these are great men and deserve the respect of all. Most would not want that amount of responsibility.
Comment by Steve —
Selling weapons to the same terrorists who held Americans hostage, and actually spurring new rounds of hostage-taking by his actions. The Iran/Contra investigation uncovered notes to Ollie North that showed the rate of exchange the terrorists had worked out with the Reagans:
the following proposal has evolved which the Iranians today said they wd like to discuss in detail on Saturday: -- The total "package" from the Israelis wd consist of 50 HAWKs w/PIP (product improvement package) and 3300 basic TOWs. -- Deliveries wd commence on or about 12 December as follows:
H hr: 1 707 w/300 TOWs = 1 AMCIT
H+10hrs: 1 707 (same A/C) w/300 TOWs = 1 AMCIT
H+16hrs: 1 747 w/50 HAWKs & 400 TOWs = 2 AMCITs
H+20hrs: 1 707 w/300 TOWs = 1 AMCIT
H+24hrs: 1 747 w/2000 TOWs = French Hostage
AMCIT - American Citizen
Reagan was a traitor. He lucked out (if one who contracts Alzheimers' could be considered lucky) because Lawrence Walsh took pity on him.
And I am through with Reagan, so everyone can come back now.
October 16th, 2006 at 10:47 pmIf you are a NitWit(stupid\sillyperson) and I was half as witty, that would actually make me smarter huh?
Comment by Steve
Maybe I am a NitWit! I wouldnt have been able to understand it, for real. Ha!
October 16th, 2006 at 10:49 pmI thought you'd never shut up, barfly.
Heh.
October 16th, 2006 at 10:50 pmPoor Reps, they have no choice to "stay the course".
October 16th, 2006 at 10:51 pmThese numbers aren't good for republicans, but are progs making the assumption that if 61% of those surveyed disapprove of Bush that those same 61% consequentially approve of democrats.
October 16th, 2006 at 10:55 pmDo you support his illegal funding of the Contras?
Comment by barfly
Barfly, dont be silly. Exley already told us that Contras were saviors of democracy in Nicaragua. Sure they shot a few shots against people, but life is a bitch, right?
Now, seriously. I lived in Nicaragua when I was a kid in the 80´s. My mother told me the other night that the women that sew (sorry, if thats wrong) the clothing of Sandinistas told her: I have to choose between sending my 15 y/o son to fight against the Contras or leaving him to die of hunger. Nicaragua is the second poorest country in Latinamerica. The first one is Haiti...please, Steve, check how many times both of these countries have been attacked, occupied, destabilized, curfewed, sanctioned and couped by US.
October 16th, 2006 at 10:55 pm187
I'm sorryZooey, but He Who Is Not To Be Named never gets his just due.
October 16th, 2006 at 10:55 pmWhat the hell, barfly, he's a moldering corpse -- an evil one, of course. :)
October 16th, 2006 at 11:01 pmWait! Barfly, you were talking about Reagan, and not Voldemort, right?
October 16th, 2006 at 11:02 pmComment by Zooey
October 16th, 2006 at 11:08 pmAgain, Zoo. Lets jump and hijack this train!
#189 paul try to let Bush down?
October 16th, 2006 at 11:11 pmand not Voldemort, right?
Satan's "Emp" still holds sway in this realm.
October 16th, 2006 at 11:11 pmJuan,
Why are we always hijacking the longest frickin' threads in existence?
Not that it wasn't already hijacked -- um, barfly et al
October 16th, 2006 at 11:15 pmHey Left Coast,
I agree that Rummy is responsible for authorizing the hurrendous crimes you speak of. However, it just kind of kills the technicality of the list. There is more gray area with Rummy compared to the established factual charges and convictions of the rest of those Repubicans.
October 16th, 2006 at 11:19 pmWhy are we always hijacking the longest frickin’ threads in existence?
Comment by Zooey
Because we are good, baby! :)
October 16th, 2006 at 11:20 pmHolly shit, this guy I don't care his R or D should be in jail sixty years!
October 16th, 2006 at 11:20 pmIt's 22 days until the election. Let's give it all we've got!
p.s. Has anyone heard news of Riverbend (Bagdad Burning Blog). It's been 72 days since she posted.
October 16th, 2006 at 11:25 pmWell, well this is a lovely October surprise! America is smelling the coffee!
October 16th, 2006 at 11:42 pm"You're either with us or against us."
So... what happens if everyone is against you?
October 17th, 2006 at 2:44 am[...] There’s a new poll that reports 61% of all Americans disapprove of the job president bush is doing. Can you imaging if 180 million people didn’t like you? That’s not a great feeling. I’d actually be scared to walk out of my house. It’s not cool when just my neighbor is mad at me. [...]
October 17th, 2006 at 3:21 amThe Democrats must do better.
Bush's rating should be 0%. But for that to happen, the public needs to see a real alternative set of policies.
October 17th, 2006 at 4:44 amDoes anyone recall Sami al-Hajj, the al Jazeera journalist being held at Gitmo? Nicholas Kristof thinks, as do others, that Hajj is being held not for suspected al Qaeda connections but because our gov't wants to use him as a spy. Since Bush is signing the torture bill into law today, this is well worth keeping an eye on.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:49 amI'm sorry, but ONLY 61%???!?
That is nothing to be happy about. Who the f*ck are those 39%?
October 17th, 2006 at 6:51 amMr. Bush and Mr. Rove, looking cool, calm, collected and confident about November 8th..
October 17th, 2006 at 7:39 amI don’t know what Mr. Cheney is looking like, hard to tell when he’s all snug in that darn bunker.
People wake up, please. If that confidence is from having the elections wrapped up in fraud – WE CAN’T LET THAT HAPPEN!
But, like too many others, I have no idea what can be done if it happens?
All I know is we can’t just walk away from it this time. Numbers are numbers and numbers are powerful.
If Mr. Bush and Mr. Rove are conceding and are giving up, I find that hard to believe.
We must vote to take control of both houses, it’s the first and most important step towards the right thing to do.
It’s most definitely a time for change.
bush's constant reminder that he is going to "stay the course" in iraq is merely another way of saying that the chimp doesn't have a plan to retreat.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:12 amhe bumbled going into iraq and getting out now seems to be impossible.
clearly bush is in way over his head, he lacks the intelligence to be a president and as iraq shows the world, he lacks the moraality.
god aint blessing america!
#210. pete. I see how feel. But, i am curious, can you relate to me what the democratic alternative to Bush would be? (not just Bush is terrible and we need change, but actually what dems plan to do about the current situation).
October 17th, 2006 at 8:43 am39% are watching way to much propaganda,, hail to the brainless deadbeats
October 17th, 2006 at 9:18 am#211 That you Karl?
October 17th, 2006 at 9:20 amSaying the Democrats don't have a plan.
That's getting as old as blaming Mr. Clinton for all the wrong this administration has done.
But whatever, I hope it doesn't fly anymore.
Come November 8th I hope I hear the Replublicans blame Clinton for the Democrats not having a plan the Republicans blame Clinton for losing both houses.
john. brainless deadbeats are the ones spending all there time with likeminded people being spoonfed biased information. Kind of like you here at ThinkProgress.
October 17th, 2006 at 9:22 amI did not realize Bush was doing better than Clinton. Bush has a 39% Approval nearing elections in his 6th year. Clinton was 34%.
Or is that not what you were trying to say on this website? I forget you never show the complete picture.
October 17th, 2006 at 9:27 am#213. no, it is a simple question. besides saying that the current administration is immoral, evil, incompetent, etc; what is the democratic plan that is so much better than the current plan. what exactly (or even in general) are democrats willing to say they are going to do to improve things?
October 17th, 2006 at 9:35 amWell..well...well! It appears the left wing's favorite Dirty Harry is just as crooked as those he has condemned.
Hey #209. Change to what? This is so typical of the left. No plan just "I hate Bush". Whaaaaaaaa.
Win or lose it doesn't matter because we got what we wanted...regime change in Iraq and Afghanastan.
It's really comical to watch the left, who most praised Bush for kicking the Tailiban's ass and then taking Iraq in two weeks, turn their backs on the war on terrorism for the sake of winning an election.
Shame on the left and the right for not uniting.
October 17th, 2006 at 12:09 pm#215
I did not realize Bush was doing better than Clinton. Bush has a 39% Approval nearing elections in his 6th year. Clinton was 34%.
Or is that not what you were trying to say on this website? I forget you never show the complete picture.
You must have been looking at the wrong column in the Clinton approval ratings. Clinton's approval ranged from the high 50s to the low 70s throughout 1998 (his sixth year) and was mostly in the 60s.
Whether or not it's a complete enough picture for you, at least it's not a totally bogus picture like the one you're trying to give us.
October 17th, 2006 at 12:15 pm#218
It’s really comical to watch the left, who most praised Bush for kicking the Tailiban’s ass and then taking Iraq in two weeks, turn their backs on the war on terrorism for the sake of winning an election.
It's really comical to see the right swirling around the drain, trying desperately to grab at anything to save their asses. I guess somebody sent a bunch of righties over here out of desperation and forgot to give them something intelligent to write once they got here.
Did Bush kick the Taliban's ass? I thought it was the troops. If you're going to give him credit for that, give him credit for letting them come back into power, and when we lose Afghanistan, give him credit for that, too. Try to keep up with current events.
Taking Iraq in two weeks? Nobody said it would be difficult to defeat the Iraqi army. But, a hell of a lot of people told Bush that occupation would be difficult. They told him what we needed to do to hold onto it and keep our troops from getting picked off by an insurgency and he ignored them. But, you're proud of that dumbass, aren't you. He's destroying our military and our ability to defend ourselves against real enemies, and you think that's just peachy. Who's the traitor?
October 17th, 2006 at 12:28 pmyet the uninformed at therant are telling me that his ratings are at a short-term high. Hah.
October 17th, 2006 at 12:36 pm[...] Sixty-four percent of the American public now disapproves of Bush’s handling of the war in Iraq. These people are not “illogical” or victims of a propaganda campaign, but are responding to the facts. [...]
October 17th, 2006 at 1:25 pm#211. i am a canadian looking from the outside in.
October 17th, 2006 at 2:26 pmyou are passing the bucks to the dems, this was not a dem problem, ultimately it was bush who illegally invaded a defenceless country. bush is the man responsible for the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of women and babies. bush is the one determined to stay the course, whatever that is supposed to mean. bush was the man (?) who promised the iraqs their freedom and democracy, what i see is non of that, it is a wholesale civil war brought on by a president who has no knowledge of the middle east, its history and is customs.
bush and bush alone, not the democrats, is responsible for iraq, to believe the dems have a solution would be naive. your president wanted to be a "war president", he said that, he also said that "god told him to invade iraq", this alone should have sent alarm bells ringing.
bush has thoroughly and completely isolated america from the mid east, for generations to come, americans will be despised. if your chosen leader, by voters and by god, does not have the answer for iraq how do you think the dems would fare.
there is no answer to iraq other than for bush to fall on his sword, similar to japanese soldiers of ww2.
[...] A new CNN poll shows that public disapproval of President Bush has reached an all-time high. Sixty-one percent of Americans now disapprove of Bush’s handling of his job as President: — That’s all fine and dandy. But when will we start the impeachment process is the real question. It’s time to get this bum out.read more | digg story [...]
October 17th, 2006 at 9:26 pm[...] Sixty-four percent of the American public now disapproves of Bush’s handling of the war in Iraq. These people are not “illogical†or victims of a propaganda campaign, but are responding to the facts. [...]
October 17th, 2006 at 9:34 pm[...] Sixty-four percent of the American public now disapproves of Bush’s handling of the war in Iraq. These people are not “illogical†or victims of a propaganda campaign, but are responding to the facts. [...]
October 17th, 2006 at 11:42 pm#219
How did you guess! I was sent here by the right.
They wanted me to see just how naive the left really was, and in fact, they were right. You are naive. I also love a good argument.
It also appears that most of you liberal leftist types like to play Monday morning quarterback. If a liberal was in office, would you be so critical?
By the way pea brain, if a lib were in office after 911, you'd be speaking Arabic and having to keep a gun next to your bed at night to thwart the terrorist attacks. Yes, that's right Mr. PB, we've intercepted terrorist trying to get into the US, or have you conveniently forgotten?
Too many questions for Mr. PB? By the way Mr. PB, do you and your leftist morons think that a person simply wakes up one day and decides to become a terrorist? What moron would think this Mr. PB?
At leat I can admit that the administration made some blunders, but can you admit to the failure of the Clinton's to stop North Korea from nukes? How about knocking off UBL? How about the 1993 WTC? How about the Cole? Shall I keep going Mr. PB Historian? Or should I stop before I over load your pot smoking pea brain?
October 18th, 2006 at 11:42 am#226... bush, cheney, is that you?
October 18th, 2006 at 11:49 amPS. #219
I've read quite a few postings here and the majority seem to be only Bush bashing. So what gives with the comment regarding "intelligent" things to write?
It seems the only lack of intelligence is on your dimwitted side Mr. PB.
Furthermore, Mr. PB, take a close look at what I had said and you'll see that you're RCI has impeded your thought process.
October 18th, 2006 at 11:56 am#227
Nope, just one of there cronies...LOL! Out doing the job of the right wing conspiracy machine.
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