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Prominent Right-Wing Activist Smears Kuo As Member Of ‘Axis Of Evil’

Last night on CBS’s 60 Minutes, David Kuo, a former White House deputy on faith-based issues, explained that the Bush White House has consistently subverted its so-called “values” agenda in favor of crass political gain. “This message that has been sent out to Christians for a long time now: that Jesus came primarily for a political agenda, and recently primarily a right-wing political agenda – as if this culture war is a war for God. And it’s not a war for God, it’s a war for politics,” said Kuo.

Interviewer Lesley Stahl asked Kuo whether he thinks the White House is going to view his book as a betrayal and may go after him. Kuo responded:

“Of course they will. I can hear the attacks, right? ‘Oh, he’s really a liberal.’ or, ‘Oh, maybe that brain tumor really messed up his head.’ Or, you know, ‘He’s an idealist.’”

The assaults have already started coming in from the White House’s conservative allies. Christian evangelical leaders James Dobson, Tony Perkins, and Chuck Colson were to quick to criticize Kuo while defending Bush.

In the latest attack, an article entitled “David Kuo: An Addition to the Axis of Evil,” Jason T. Christy, the publisher of The Church Report (and once nominated to head the Bush-friendly Christian Coalition), lobs many of the accusations that Kuo predicted:

Don’t be fooled by Kuo; he is someone who has been described as a “wolf in sheep’s clothing.” Don’t let his smarmy tones and pouty eyes fool you. Having done campaign work for several Kennedys, having contradicted himself and his own letters, Kuo is being used to try and prop up the liberal left, to breathe life into lifeless campaigns and his master literary work is a mere smokescreen. Questioning the faith and motivation of this administration is wrong.

When he was young, Kuo interned for Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-MA) and was a campaign volunteer for Rep. Joe Kennedy (D-MA), who retired from Congress in 1998. In his professional life, Kuo worked for leading conservatives John Ashcroft and Bill Bennett.

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146 Responses to “Prominent Right-Wing Activist Smears Kuo As Member Of ‘Axis Of Evil’”

  1. Mickeyh says:

    I just read this at ToTheCenter.com


  2. PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) says:

    A prophet is often condemned in his own town.


  3. El Tonno says:

    Quick! Burn him! BURN HIM!

    …I laugh.

    Who’s for opening up an exclusive Club of The Members of the Axis of Evil, complete with mysterious unholy Initiation Rites straight from the Nethermost Darkness? Dick Cheney can join as a honorary (but unlisted) member of course.


  4. Badmoodman says:

    James Dobson, Tony Perkins, and Chuck Colson have also launched criticisms of Kuo while defending Bush. – - Apparently Bush is omnipotent. This White House can mock these guys until the Rapture and they’ll just bend over and say, “thank you sir, may I have another.”


  5. mparker says:

    It is the same for anyone who even attempts to tells the truth under Bush’s rule.

    As failure and calamity mount, anyone who disagrees with or exposes the “kings” many shades of disgrace and lies will be smeared and threatened.

    Worst King Ever.


  6. Ugh says:

    Questioning the faith and motivation of this administration is wrong.

    That’s quite disturbing.


  7. Ronin_Tetsuro says:

    The man’s name is Christy. Christ-y, for pete’s sakes.

    I mean, I hate to split hairs, but the irony is as delicious as the swiftboating is transparent here.

    Adhere to my rule: the more the administrtion tries to sink someone, the more important the things they say about the administration are. Let’s see, turn around time on this one was less than 24 hours? I’d say Kuo is the real deal. Welcome back to reality, sir.


  8. Will says:

    Questioning the faith and motivation of this administration is wrong.

    That’s quite disturbing.

    More than disturbing. A nation that ceases to question the faith and motivation of its government has given up their freedom.


  9. ForTruth says:

    Christian evangelical leaders James Dobson, Tony Perkins, and Chuck Colson were to quick to criticize Kuo while defending Bush

    These so-called Christians are taking part in fooling the “believers” in the name of power.


  10. JaneESchneider says:

    #6, Ugh, that’s what I picked up on first. Sorry, Christy, but we can question anything we damn well please, because we’re Americans.


  11. PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) says:

    Questioning the faith and motivation of this administration is wrong.

    So much for the First Commandment, “Thou shall have no other Gods before me”.


  12. RUCerious says:

    Yes, and Mr Kuo has also been testing nukular detonations in his backyard.


  13. dlet says:

    he is someone who has been described as a “wolf in sheep’s clothing.” Don’t let his smarmy tones and pouty eyes fool you. Having done campaign work for several Kennedys, having contradicted himself and his own letters, Kuo is being used to try and prop up the liberal left, to breathe life into lifeless campaigns and his master literary work is a mere smokescreen. Questioning the faith and motivation of this administration is wrong.

    So he has swarmy tones, pouty eyes, worked for politicians(Dems and Repubs), writes a book about things he believes in and questions the faith and motivation of an administration. So Christy, and probably other Cons, thinks these qualities make someone evil. Somehow I don’t think fascist-gutter-slime is a strong enough description for these a-holes.


  14. RUCerious says:

    #7 Ronin – So, is that an adjectival Christ-y?


  15. ForTruth says:

    Jason Christy has been added to the Axis of doorknobs and hockeypucks.


  16. nitpicker says:

    I’m not repulsed by Christy’s comments. They’re just stupid, reflexive CYA. I’m repulsed by his mullet.

    As a fundamentalist, shouldn’t Christy believe that “nature itself teach(es) you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?” He should, because he’s kind of proving the Bible’s point…


  17. RealScientist says:

    Adhere to my rule: the more the administrtion tries to sink someone, the more important the things they say about the administration are.
    Comment by Ronin_Tetsuro — October 16, 2006 @ 3:44 pm

    Well put, just what I was thinking. Clearly the administration feels very threatened by this guy.


  18. Upside00 says:

    HMMMMM! Which side would Jesus be on? Shouldn’t be too hard to figure out.

    22 more Days!!!!!


  19. Buford says:

    “…pouty eyes”, huh? Sounds like Mr. Christy is a little conflicted.


  20. dlet says:

    #16
    Nitpicker,
    “nature itself teach(es) you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?” He should, because he’s kind of proving the Bible’s point…

    Is that really written in the bible? What about all the long-haired hippie Jesus pictures then? Even on the cross in churches he has long hair. Just another contradiction in the book that has all the confusio…..I mean answers.


  21. ForTruth says:

    The dude with the Mullet looks more like a whiney college kid to me.


  22. chimpeach says:

    The nerve of David Kuo! How dare he criticize the White House for calling Dobson, Perkins, etc. a bunch of nuts? I can see why they’d be upset with him for that. If they want to be called nuts and get used like a box of Kleenex on a cheap hotel nightstand, that’s their business and he has no right to interfere.


  23. Freedom+Hater says:

    Sounds desperate to me. “DONT LISTEN TO HIM. HE IS CRAZY”


  24. KikiD says:

    I thought the Newsweek interview was very telling of his character. It sounds to me like he wrote this book to make his own positions clear and he’s surprised that people have jumped on it.

    I especially like his call for Christians to take a two year “fast” from politics and instead of contributing to political causes, to spend the money on the homeless and the poor. THAT’S why the “conservatives”, the people who he thought were on his side are freaking out! Can you imagine how much money those rich Republican Christians dish out?


  25. Briseadh na Faire says:

    Today, it is a given that if you cross this Administration you will be attacked without mercy.

    Tomorrow, it will be a given that if you cross this Administration you will be branded an unlawful enemy combatant.

    All that is necessary is to create a civil uprising and Habeus Corpus for citizens will be suspended, by an executive order of the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States of America.


  26. oxillini says:

    #24 – Gasp, now I see why the Religous Right must discredit him! He wants Christians to give to the needy. Heretic!


  27. nitpicker says:

    #20: Follow the link. It’s Corinthians 11:14.

    As for contradictions, the Bible’s loaded with them, which is why it ought not be taken entirely literally.


  28. pnac says:

    Abramoff-Scanlon School of Sleaze
    “The wackos get their information through the Christian right, Christian radio, mail, the internet and telephone trees,” Scanlon wrote in the memo, which was read into the public record at a hearing of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee. “Simply put, we want to bring out the wackos to vote against something and make sure the rest of the public lets the whole thing slip past them.” http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/11/03/abramoff/index.html
    Tucker Carlson agrees:
    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/10/tucker-carlson-to-evangelicals-duped/
    “CARLSON: Because I know them. Because I grew up with them. Because I live with them. They live on my street. Because I live in Washington, and I know that everybody in our world has contempt for the evangelicals. And the evangelicals know that, and they’re beginning to learn that their own leaders sort of look askance at them and don’t share their values.”


  29. Technodaoist says:

    “Questioning the faith and motivation of this administration is wrong.” Jason Christy

    If speaking truth to power and questioning authority are wrong, then Lord knows I don’t want to be right…

    Freewill can be so cumbersome. I’m glad people like Jason are there to make decisions for me.

    Tool.


  30. Roger says:

    Don’t let his smarmy tones and pouty eyes fool you.

    Christy continued….

    Also, don’t let his full lips and broad shoulders fool you. Or his toned chest…or…his playful, raven black hair, (gulp)…his or firm….ummm…tight….

    And so forth….


  31. Karim says:

    I just love it when conservative cannabalize their own. They show their true colors when that happens.


  32. Anais says:

    Why is it that not one person who has left the Bush administration can cast a positive light on what W has done or is doing as president? I’m thinking of Paul O’Neill, Richard Clarke, Colin Powell, in addition to Kuo.
    As for a more frivolous sidelight, the long hair issue, an anthropological story that came out in the past few years suggested Jesus wore his hair cropped shorter, in the custom of Roman subjects of the day. But who knows and who cares?
    Jesus is also recorded as telling a rich man he would get into heaven if he would give away all that he had and followed him. The rich man sadly left Jesus. Now fast-forward to modern-day Washington. What do you see those rich guys doing with all they have?


  33. furndog says:

    I love that it’s referred to as a “master literary work”…


  34. unbelievable says:

    “Questioning the faith and motivation of this administration is wrong.” Jason Christy

    Exactly why I don’t do faith.

    If something has to be taken on faith alone, then it cannot stand on its own merits.

    Let’s hope that with the dwindling level of faith in the Bush Regime, the necons are about to fall…


  35. unbelievable says:

    Why is it that not one person who has left the Bush administration can cast a positive light on what W has done or is doing as president?
    Comment by Anais — October 16, 2006 @ 4:39 pm

    I know it was a rhetorical question, but I really want to answer it anyway…

    Because they have done nothing positive.

    Oh, except for that supposed 7.5 pound perch… LOL


  36. kindness says:

    Swiftboating…..the past time of the reich class.


  37. SpudgeBoy says:

    Everybody,

    Please go to the front page and vote.

    http://www.thechurchreport.com/index.php

    In the bottom right side of the page.


  38. slarti says:

    I love it when right-wing nutjobs eat their young…


  39. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Was it just me, or did anyone else look at that picture and think at first, “That’s Joe Scarborough’s high school yearbook photo”?

    Sadly this administration will stop at nothing in their endless pursuit to destroy the truth. For the Bush Administration, the truth is like sunlight to a vampire. So, everybody, let the sun shine in!


  40. unbelievable says:

    [Q:] Will David Kuo’s book critical of the White House or the Foley investigation prompt you not to vote or vote differently?
    Yes – 78%
    No – 22%


  41. Unholy+Moses says:

    As for a more frivolous sidelight, the long hair issue, an anthropological story that came out in the past few years suggested Jesus wore his hair cropped shorter, in the custom of Roman subjects of the day. But who knows and who cares?

    Yes, but would Jesus approve of Kuo’s mullet / Mississippi Mudflap / Missouri Compromise / Canadian Passport / Hockery Hair / Soccer Rocker / …

    :-)

    On a more serious note, I do often wonder if those on the religious right actually read the book they profess to follow. I’m guessing the answer is “no” since so few of them got the point and supoort a party that does very little that could be considered Christian.


  42. RUCerious says:

    #37
    The old 80/20 rule, heh?


  43. Daryll says:

    I’ve met Mr. Christy personally at a Republican event in Philadelphia. He’s a well respected amongst evangelicals and he dearly loves the lord with all his heart. Shame on you TP for attempting to discredit this man of god. Satan’s emps are out here. Liberals, Jesus’ will shall prevail.


  44. dlet says:

    Spudeboy,

    [Q:] Will David Kuo’s book critical of the White House or the Foley investigation prompt you not to vote or vote differently?

    That question is so pathetic. By asking it that way they seem to expect that all their readers will vote for Republilcans. Will these people ever learn that Repubs do not wear their religion on their sleeves because they are righteous but because they are using people of faith?


  45. PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) says:

    Daryll

    Pharisees said they loved the Lord (capitalized, BTW), too. Being well-respected by fellow Modern Pharisees isn’t an endorsement of God (also capitalized).


  46. dlet says:

    Satan’s emps are out here. Liberals, Jesus’ will shall prevail.
    Comment by Daryll

    What’s an emp? And who’s to say that Jesus’ will is not on the side of Liberal thinking. You? Falwell? bush? My, my, my…..thinking that you know what the Lord thinks. I think that just might be a tad blasphemus. You might have some answering to do at the pearly gates.


  47. Newprog says:

    Daryll you are an absolute idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Why don’t you give it up all ready. You are not a REAL CHRISTIAN. You hide behind the Bible to create the hatred you have for differing views and ideas. You hate science, because it proves several aspects of the Bible to be incorrect. You hate homosexuals(for what reason I still do not know). All you and your kind have is hatred….

    And Jesus Wept…


  48. wisedup says:

    these ‘con’ repubs/bad christians are soooooooooooo predictable,we know their lies even before they tell them.


  49. RealScientist says:

    Oh God, not Daryll again!


  50. ForTruth says:

    Daryll Fudgeberry,

    The sign of Eth is in the air. Goeth to the Tobes of Hades, lit by flickering torchlight, you shall see the truth. Now BE GONE


  51. unbelievable says:

    “People fare best when they look not to moral rules and principles, not to priests and churches, and not to creeds, but to the actual results of what they do.”

    – Richard Taylor


  52. unbelievable says:

    “Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of agreement in their teaching. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its side.”

    – Celsus (2nd Century C.E.)


  53. unbelievable says:

    “The Bible is the greatest hoax in all history. The leading characters of the Old Testament would today be in the penitentiary and those of the New would be under observation in psychopathic wards.”

    – Charles Smith (1887-1964) U.S. attorney, author


  54. aguafiero says:

    #46…
    I believe ‘emps’ is short for empaths, or people who are able to actually feel the same feelings as others around them.
    So…… satan’s emps would be people who feel the same way as satan does, and yes, they are out there, and seem to be congregated in the white house and in the cloak rooms on capitol hill………
    and, oh, Daryll, it’s still not to late to run out and get that orange hat, you know, so that the aliens can recognize you and pick you up tonight………..


  55. unbelievable says:

    “I am treated as evil by those who feel persecuted because they are not allowed to force me to believe as they do.”

    “Although it is said that faith can move mountains, experience shows that dynamite works better.”

    “Religion is a major weapon in the war against reality.”

    -unknown


  56. Expose+the+Republican+Pedaphile+Scandal says:

    And you know what we do to the Evil Axis members, don’tcha? Time to torture more suspects!


  57. Quadrajet says:

    #43 – Daryll – you fool – it’s not TP attempting to discredit your friend Mr. Kuo, it’s Dobson, Perkins, Colson and other members of your cult. Read UB’s post at #53 then follow the instructions For Truth has left you at #50.


  58. Wayne says:

    “Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of agreement in their teaching. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its side.”

    – Celsus (2nd Century C.E.)
    Comment by unbelievable

    I love that quote
    Funny how the more things change, the more they stay the same. Christians 1800 years later are still 2 faced, backstabbing, bigoted, simple minded and still pointing fingers at each other saying how bad they are. When not pointing at the rest of the world.


  59. Newprog says:

    Unbelievable nice quotes

    I do not completly agree with the quotes (as I think religion is not all that bad if people would actually act on Jesus’s words for once in thier lives) but they are good food for thought. If people would learn that following Jesus means you should respect, love, and honor everyone on this earth and judge people on thier character instead of frivilace things like gender, race, or sexual orientation this world will become a better place. This is what I believe is the reason I am liberal I guess…


  60. Daryll says:

    Even though I can’t carry out this act within my firm, outside of the firm my plan is to inform as many people as I can about liberal ideas and views. I refuse to see liberals win the majority of the house. Our biblical way of life is counting on Nov 7. If your party had once ounce of morality maybe I would join. Your party angers me because you defy God’s word. Even though the act is considered sinful, don’t you find it coincidental that Foley’s issues were revealed around campaign time. Liberals, have you know shame. I will continue to pray and fast to ensure that we hold the house. Your ideals are despicable and disgusting. Mr. Kuo is just a pawn lobbied by liberals to defame the republican party. I’m tired of you liberals. I will pray dearly for each of your souls. Remember, Jesus said, “vegeance is mine”. Your party will pay for your unrighteousness. Shame on you guys. I really believe that liberals don’t love Jesus. Your party is blasphemous to the word of god. Save your souls.


  61. Jake says:

    I love the take home message at the end of the article.

    David Kuo forgot one important lesson: Judge not lest ye be judged.

    This is following an article that does nothing but judge Kuo.

    It seems the spirit only moves Kuo to author a masterpiece when he feels like an unimportant, disgruntled former employee and needs to make a few dollars.

    …describing them as: “nuts, goofy and boorish.” Perhaps, Kuo should take a closer look in the mirror.

    Don’t be fooled by Kuo; he is someone who has been described as a “wolf in sheep’s clothing.”

    It looks like Christy forgot one important lesson…


  62. Newprog says:

    Wayne that is unfair

    Their are good, liberal christians out thier helping the world. Bill Moyers, and Robin Meyers come to mind. Christianity is not the evil hurting people, it is the FUNDAMENTALISTS taking the Bible literally without understanding the words of Jesus Christ.

    Oh and if you are wondering, I am an atheist, but I do not believe it is right to condemn a religion because of the actions of a few imbeciles like Dobson, and Falwell…


  63. Jake says:

    I will continue to pray and fast to ensure that we hold the house.

    Of course, God, cares so much about Republicans maintaining a majority in the House. Forget that free will stuff, God will influence the election through Diebold machines.


  64. Newprog says:

    Daryll why are you so SELF RIGHTGEOUS!!!

    How dare you claim you know the words of God(if thier is a god). Have you no decency sir?(I stole that from KO). You rant and rant and still you say absolutely nothing!!! How dare you call yourself American! You are a fascist bigot who has no respect and honor. Jesus doesn’t hate Liberals, he hates you!


  65. Quadrajet says:

    #61 – “I will continue to pray and fast”
    Comment by Daryll — October 16, 2006 @ 6:00 pm

    Hmmmm, perhaps we have a piece of the puzzle here. Daryll, grab something to eat before you post again, let’s see if it helps.


  66. Wayne says:

    63
    I am sure there are good individual christians, just as there are good individuals of most every religion. My beef is with Organized Religion, not just Chistians.

    How could the catholic church cover up child molestors? Same way they murdered innocents in their inquisitions.

    Look at all the blood shed by christians who persecuted any belief different from theirs over the centuries.

    Any group, and I include all religions, that have the blood of innocents on their hands, can claim to be of God all they want, but by their deeds, people should know better.
    If you have the blood of innocents on your hands, yours is not a God I shall follow.


  67. she's back says:

    With Evil Spaniard and Guru this board looks like a high school reunion!aguafiero i have not seen your a*s in a long time.


  68. Newprog says:

    Wayne I understand now.

    Sorry for the blast. I didn’t understand the post I guess.

    Thx for the clarification!


  69. Your+Conscience says:

    CHRISTIAN TALIBAN, READ YOUR BIBLE

    “Ye though I say unto you, they shall raise up the least among them to the highest post and he shall appear as a monkee. The sheep shall follow and the lies shall flow like water from the sea. They shall believe his deceptions and follow him unto war with the wrong nation. And Cheney will shoot a guy in the face too.”

    Lobotomy 9:11


  70. she's back says:

    Like Jesus would give sh*T about american politics period!


  71. unbelievable says:

    still pointing fingers at each other saying how bad they are. When not pointing at the rest of the world.
    Comment by Wayne — October 16, 2006 @ 5:59 pm

    Just what Jesus would have wanted… (sarcasm)


  72. unbelievable says:

    “That which is unchallenged and exercised as habit rapidly becomes ritual. When this occurs, dissent becomes an object of surprise, if not resentment.”

    – B. Carmon Hardy


  73. Daryll says:

    Jesus, please forgive me for my anger toward the democratic party. Lord, their not following your word, and it’s tearing me apart because I understand that your plan is to save as many as possible, but they continue to hinder your plan. If they win the house, I’m not sure if this country will have turmoil, but I believe it’s likely. I will remain ready for that glorious day, which is nye. And will honor you forever, amen.


  74. unbelievable says:

    Is man one of God’s blunders? Or is God one of man’s blunders?”

    “Faith: not *wanting* to know what is true.”

    “The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad.”

    “God is a thought who makes crooked all that is straight.”

    – Friedrich Nietzsche


  75. she's back says:

    Unbelieveble are you getting viagra e mails too? I got one of these before……..“That which is unchallenged and exercised as habit rapidly becomes ritual. When this occurs, dissent becomes an object of surprise, if not resentment.” …..be more creative would ya?


  76. unbelievable says:

    I think religion is not all that bad if people would actually act on Jesus’s words for once in thier lives
    Comment by Newprog — October 16, 2006 @ 6:00 pm

    Thanks. I’m pretty anti-religion, because while I agree with what you said, I think that the reality is that religion does far more harm than good.

    Personally, I think everyone should have his or her own ideology, and not follow some prescribed morality that someone else wrote.

    We really don’t need someone to tell us how to behave. We know when we’ve behaved badly… Just like our cousins the chimpanzees do without weekly chruch service.

    When the majority of Christians act like Christians, I’ll leave religion alone. Until then, I’m an advocate for holding it accountable for its actions.


  77. unbelievable says:

    Hmmmm, perhaps we have a piece of the puzzle here. Daryll, grab something to eat before you post again, let’s see if it helps.
    Comment by Quadrajet — October 16, 2006 @ 6:07 pm

    That’s hilarious!


  78. Your+Conscience says:

    Since Daryll is a omnipotent knowing the Divines will and plan he can answer the following.

    Please enlighten us Christian Taliban Scholar;

    Do you have a full beard? (Lev. 19:27)
    Do you never eat shellfish? (Lev. 11:12)
    Do you condone, under certain circumstances, prostitution? (Isaiah 23:17-1

    Do you believe that the earth is flat? (Revel. 7:1). If you can answer all of this with a firm yes (and if you *can’t*, I shudder at your hypocrisy), I would like to invite you to join forces to eradicate all vegetarians (1 Timothy 4:1-3; Romans 14:2), since they are a much overlooked abomination in the eye of the Lord. There are enough Christians like yourself dealing with gays and lesbians, but the Lord will surely be pleased if finally someone (you??) starts the long overdue crusade against vegetarians!

    Moses puts blood on Aaron’s right ear, thumb, and big toe. 8:23-24

    God kills Aaron’s sons for offering “strange fire before the Lord.” 10:1-2

    Hares are unclean since they chew the cud. 11:6

    Bats are just unclean birds. 11:13,19

    Four-legged birds are an abomination to God. 11:20

    Insects have four legs. 11:21, 23

    Baby girls are twice as dirty as baby boys. 12:1-8

    God’s cure for leprosy. 14:2-32

    What to do if “he that hath the issue spit upon him that is clean.” 15:8

    What to do “if any man’s seed of copulation go out from him.” 15:16-18

    Menstruating women are unclean to God. 15:19-30

    God’s law for wet dreams. 15:16-17, 32

    Don’t look at any naked menstruating women. 18:19

    Don’t mix seeds when sowing a field or wear a garment with mixed fibers. 19:19

    If you have sex with a slave woman, you must then scourge her. 19:20

    Don’t round the corners of your head or mar the corners of your beard. 19:27

    Children who curse their parents, adulterers, and homosexuals must be killed. 20:9-12

    Woman with “familiar spirits” must be stoned to death. 20:27

    The unchaste daughters of priests must be burnt to death. 21:9

    Handicapped people must not approach the altar. 21:16-23

    Cursers and blasphemers must be stoned to death. 24:16, 24

    God’s instructions for buying slaves. 25:45-46

    “Ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.” 26:16

    God will “send wild beasts among you, which shall rob your of your children.” 26:22

    “And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.” 26:29

    God places a dollar value on human life; with women worth less than men. 27:3-7


  79. unbelievable says:

    be more creative would ya?
    Comment by she’s back — October 16, 2006 @ 6:31 pm

    Santo – it was a quote from Friederich Nietzsche. I didn’t make it up.


  80. unbelievable says:

    I would like to invite you to join forces to eradicate all vegetarians (1 Timothy 4:1-3; Romans 14:2), since they are a much overlooked abomination in the eye of the Lord.

    So that’s why the Christians hate me – because I only eat vegetables. I thought it was just because I’m an Atheist (who is frequently more moral than they are).

    Well, that makes sense – to think people who only eat vegetables are an abomination while supporting war, rape and incest. Oh the hypocrisy of Christianity would surely make Jesus spin in his grave…


  81. unbelievable says:

    “I’m sickened by all religions. Religion has divided people. I don’t think there’s any difference between the pope wearing a large hat and parading around with a smoking purse and an African painting his face white and praying to a rock.”
    – Howard Stern


  82. she's back says:

    Can you say something of your own? Must you always get inspired by viagra’s spam? What’s wrong with ya?…Santo? Again, girl seek help would ya? Santo is not a saint anymore!…….and i don’t think he ever was. That’s what the name means to begin with.


  83. Mode 69 says:

    Hey got to do what i got to do! I am under pressure here ok, gimme a break! Fu*k*rs!…..:)


  84. unbelievable says:

    Santo,

    The fact that you responded is proof that it is you…

    Oh, and could you speak English, please. Thanks.



  85. Sandy says:

    If i speak english right , then you will look average in here!



  86. ForTruth says:

    Someone needs to go take a nap. Santo.


  87. unbelievable says:

    Someone needs to go take a nap. Santo.
    Comment by ForTruth — October 16, 2006 @ 7:03 pm

    Heh heh :)


  88. yahnn & zzzzzz says:

    I’ll take care of him!


  89. GURU....%&#$* says:

    Jesus is watching you!….damn satellite dish !…lmao!


  90. ForTruth says:

    Jesus is watching you!….damn satellite dish !…lmao!

    Comment by GURU….%&#$*

    I’ll sell you a tinfoil hat at a discount.


  91. ForTruth says:

    Santo, listen to Yanni, that’ll put you to sleep.


  92. Ai Bang Yo Fu Kin Ni says:

    Oh this is boring! We need a new Al Qaeda video here, perhaps with a huge Jesus backdrop, you know to keep up with the changes we admired lately,……….:)


  93. Ai+Bang+Yo+Fu+Kin+Ni says:

    For Truth what’s up with you and Santo? What happened?


  94. she's back says:

    I’ll sell you a tinfoil hat at a discount.

    Comment by ForTruth — October 16, 2006 @ 7:18 pm

    Who do i make the check to?


  95. gorn says:

    Questioning the faith and motivation of this administration is wrong.

    I don’t question their faith. Not only don’t I question it, I don’t give a frig about it. I don’t care if they pray to purple zebras. All I care about is that they do a competent job of governing the country and upholding the secular Constitution. Am I wrong to think GWB put his hand on a bible and swore to uphold the Constitution? If he is true to his faith, then he believes holding his hand on the bible and making an oath is a binding action, therefore upholding the oath takes precedence over his personal religious beliefs.

    David Kuo, a former White House deputy on faith-based issues, explained that the Bush White House has consistently subverted its so-called “values” agenda in favor of crass political gain. “This message that has been sent out to Christians for a long time now…”

    Am I the only person furious that one of the first actions of BushCo was to implement and fund, with tax dollars, a “faith based initiative”? Staffing it, of course, with proponents of the favored religion? Is this not a clear violation of the Constitution?

    As seen in the above quote, even Kuo, former deputy for this program, shows concern only for the “message sent out to Christians”. What about a concern about the rest of us? Or don’t we count as Americans? What about Jews, Muslims, atheists, agnostics, Buddhist, and non-believers? What about the 75% of Christians whose beliefs don’t match the flavor preferred by “evangelicals”? I don’t think Mormons, Catholics, and many flavors of Protestants would be in agreement with the implementation of an intolerant theocracy. We’ve been doing pretty well with a secular government for better than two centuries, it seems to me. We don’t need Darryl and friends to “improve” it.

    I for one am willing to fight and die to prevent their ilk from screwing up my country.

    People shake their heads in wonder that GWB is now gutting the rights in the Constitution. Why is this a suprise? He’s been pulling this almost since the day he stepped in office.


  96. David Kuo says:

    David Kuo here – I guess I’m the latest member of the Axis of Evil… I don’t know about you but the thing that I like the most about the Jason Christy story is how very much like Jesus he sounded. You know, love your enemy, turn the other cheek, that stuff – I felt that love in the Christy article. Too bad all of this kind of makes my point that Christians have been seduced by politics, trading God in for some political power. Thanks for your support. DK


  97. she's back says:

    ForTruth is your “sale” over?……save the next long comment please.


  98. ForTruth says:

    It’s an old Joke to tell Santo to go take a nap. Some others who have been around a while know what I mean.

    Make all tinfoil-hat checks out to FORTRUTH.


  99. ForTruth says:

    ForTruth is your “sale” over?……save the next long comment please.

    Comment by she’s back

    I can’t remember the last time I posted a long comment, it’s not my style.


  100. ForTruth says:

    save the next long comment please.

    Comment by she’s back

    Ok I won’t talk about my d*ck.


  101. she's back says:

    Ho do you know he takes naps?


  102. ForTruth says:

    Ho do you know he takes naps?

    Comment by she’s back

    Santo, its a fricken joke, I have no idea if you take naps. It was a freindly way of saying stop the incoherent rambling.


  103. Sandy says:

    Big brother is naked again!


  104. Sandy says:

    And that dick of yours is not that long!


  105. Dum Fuk says:

    Santo, its a fricken joke……you are still not telling us what happened Fortruth.


  106. johnnydrama says:

    Darryl, Jesus has spoken to me, and has given me the wisdom to tell you that he would like you to fast for the next 22 days to guarantee a Republican election victory.

    So sayeth the Lord.


  107. Kapo` says:

    Johnnydrama you are not alone! I used that one too, got some subs and a lots spam in exchange!


  108. Jay Randal says:

    LOL when Karl Rove cannot find anyone else to gum up a TP thread > he sends in Santo!


  109. gorn says:

    Wow. Pretty hard to have a serious discussion here sometimes. (#101)


  110. filkertom says:

    I’m still dealing with the concept of the Axis of Evil being Iraq, Iran, North Korea, and Dave.


  111. Sandy says:

    Lol! Damn Santo left the sign/signature here!,……no Jay Randal he works for Salon magazine!


  112. Daryll says:

    Johndrama, I will. I’m not angry or agitated at your sarcasm. Jesus will have the last laugh November 7, 2006. Let’s make this deal, this goes for everyone, if we win the majority of the house then you must follow Acts 2:38 to redeem your soul. The holy spirit is real.


  113. viagra girl says:

    Santo that son of a gun, he’s a “media stalker”!!!


  114. gorn says:

    “Johndrama, I will. I’m not angry or agitated at your sarcasm. Jesus will have the last laugh November 7, 2006. Let’s make this deal, this goes for everyone, if we win the majority of the house then you must follow Acts 2:38 to redeem your soul. The holy spirit is real. “

    Didn’t know Jesus was a Republican. Does “turn the other cheek” refer to pubescent asscheeks, or what? (Sorry, just joining in on the non-serious side for a change.)

    Okay Darryl, I note that in your proposal above, there is a consequence if Republicans retain majority but no consequence if they don’t hardly fair. It is particularly cowardly in that it is always easier for incumbents to win than for challengers to win, thus turning over so many seats is not at all an even battle. If Repubs retain power, this hardly suffices as a sign of a Biblical miracle.

    I look at it another way. If you are a TRUE BELIEVER, and you have the certainty of Jesus in your heart that Jesus is a Republican and the Jesus party will prevail, then failure of the Jesus party to prevail will be proof that your religion is false.

    Therefore, if you have true faith, you will agree as follows:

    If the Democrats pick up majority in either the house or senate, you will renounce Jesus and proclaim Christianity as false. You will do so here on this blog 23 days from today.

    If you decline this challenge, then clearly your faith is weak.

    Will you stand up for Jesus, so that he may stand up for you?


  115. Agent Stafinsky says:

    Mouse Story .
    A mouse
    looked through the crack
    in the wall
    to see the farmer and his wife
    open a package.

    “What food
    might this contain?”
    The mouse wondered –
    he was devastated
    to discover
    it was a mousetrap.

    Retreating to the farmyard,
    the mouse
    proclaimed the warning.

    “There is a mousetrap
    in the house!
    There is a mousetrap
    in the house!”

    The chicken clucked
    and scratched,
    raised her head
    and said,
    “Mr. Mouse,
    I can tell
    this is a grave concern to you
    but it is of no consequence to me.
    I cannot be bothered by it.”

    The mouse
    turned to the pig
    and told him,
    “There is a mousetrap
    in the house!
    There is a mousetrap
    in the house!”

    The pig sympathized,
    but said,
    “I am so very sorry, Mr. Mouse,
    but there is nothing
    I can do about it but pray.
    Be assured
    you are in my prayers.”

    The mouse turned to the cow and said,
    “There is a mousetrap
    in the house!
    There is a mousetrap
    in the house!”

    The cow said,
    “Wow, Mr. Mouse.
    I’m sorry for you,
    but it’s no skin off my nose.”

    So, the mouse
    returned to the house,
    head down and dejected,
    to face the farmer’s mousetrap– alone.

    That very night
    a sound was heard
    throughout the house —
    like the sound
    of a mousetrap
    catching its prey.

    The farmer’s wife
    rushed to see
    what was caught.
    In the darkness,
    she did not see
    it was a venomous snake
    whose tail the trap had caught.

    The snake
    bit the farmer’s wife.
    The farmer
    rushed her to the hospital
    and she returned home
    with a fever.
    Everyone knows
    you treat a fever
    with fresh chicken soup,
    so the farmer took his hatchet
    to the farmyard
    for the soup’s
    main ingredient.

    But his wife’s sickness
    continued,
    so friends and neighbors
    came to sit with her
    around the clock.
    To feed them,
    the farmer butchered the pig.

    The farmer’s wife
    did not get well;
    she died.
    So many people came
    for her funeral,
    the farmer
    had the cow slaughtered
    to provide enough meat
    for all of them.

    The mouse looked upon it all
    from his crack in the wall
    with great sadness.

    So, the next time
    you hear someone
    is facing a problem
    and think it doesn’t
    concern you,
    remember —
    when one of us is threatened,
    we are all at risk.

    We are all involved
    in this journey
    called life.
    We must keep an eye out
    for one another
    and make an extra effort to
    encourage one another.

    REMEMBER:
    EACH OF US
    IS A VITAL THREAD
    IN ANOTHER PERSON’S TAPESTRY;
    OUR LIVES
    ARE WOVEN TOGETHER
    FOR A REASON.

    One of the best things
    to hold onto in this world
    is a friend.
    Amen.


  116. ForTruth says:

    Ok which one is the Santo?


  117. ForTruth says:

    And that dick of yours is not that long!

    Comment by Sandy — October 16, 2006 @ 7:54 pm

    Heh.


  118. ForTruth says:

    One of the best things
    to hold onto in this world
    is a friend.
    Amen.

    Comment by Agent Stafinsky

    That certainly is the beautiful truth.


  119. Me2 says:

    A man and his ever-nagging wife went on vacation to Jerusalem While they were there, the wife paaway.
    The undertaker told the husband, “You can have her shipped home for $5,000, or you can bury her here, in the Holy Land , for $150.”
    The man thought about it and told him he would just have her shipped home.

    The undertaker asked, “Why would you spend $5,000 to ship your wife home, when it would be wonderful to be buried here and you would spend only $150?”
    The man replied, “Long ago a man died here, was buried here, and three days later he rose from the dead. I just can’t take that chance!


  120. she's back says:

    For Truth but do you really know Santo? Good night liars!


  121. 'sconset says:

    Daryll need professional help–to think you are even capable of getting out of bed in the morning much less getting to work–you are one bizarre individual. I watched the interview last night on 60 minutes, and I wondered how long it would take for the White House to disavow this poor guy with nasty comments. He is no liberal–he is trying to set the record straight. Unlike the rest of the inmates in the asylum, he knows it is just wrong and he has the integrity to stand up and admit it.

    I have a lot of respect for him and I hope he beats the horrible cancer that he has. Wouldn’t our country be much better off if the idiots in the White House started to admit they were wrong, and it is time to find a new solution to the many messes they have gotten us in.

    The fools in the White House aren’t christians–they are using the fundies and evangelicals for political gain–they are to be disposed of after elections–in other words, grab their money and support and support–like a one-night stand!!


  122. ForTruth says:

    For Truth but do you really know Santo? Good night liars!

    Comment by she’s back

    Actually, no not at all. You could be Tom DeLay, or Tom Daschle for all I know. You could be a savaant, or a state hospital patient. You could be a 400 pound gorilla in some university lab that gave you internet access. You could be a magazine model on cocaine. Hell I don’t know.


  123. she's back says:

    I’ll sell you a tinfoil hat at a discount.

    Comment by ForTruth — October 16, 2006 @ 7:18 pm

    Then why you make comments like that? Where do you get this superiority?


  124. unbelievable says:

    You could be a 400 pound gorilla in some university lab that gave you internet access.
    Comment by ForTruth — October 16, 2006 @ 8:58 pm

    Hilarious!!!

    Though, that does explain all the trolls here, frankly…


  125. Sandy says:

    Unbelieveble i got your picture in “black and white”. Hilarious!!!
    To your info this gorilla got down to 182 lb size 32 5,11 . lol!


  126. Grizzly Bear Dancer Desk Jockey says:

    One more time, good night liars!….and ssshhh!!!


  127. Zooey says:

    ForTruth: The new Santo slayer. Too funny.


  128. Peter says:

    My thoughts on the Godbots: http://karavans.typepad.com/karavans/2006/10/david_kuo_the_f.html

    People who believe that the earth was made in 7 days and that Rapture is coming will believe anything, including that Bush is a true Christian.


  129. Qdog says:

    These people are brain dead. Nothing but walking Zombies. Please someone tell me how to live my life. Please Reverend tell me how many ways can I hate gays and tell a woman what to do with her own body.


  130. Zooey says:

    Qdog,

    They would totally take you up on that request. They probably have a list.


  131. jurassicpork says:

    It’s typical for battered wives to defend their abusers while criticising those who call them on it. Why not here?


  132. Media Stalker says:

    Zooey/Zookeeper, thanks for your “help”, but do you know Santo?
    If you guess right, you’ll get a pink phone!

    http://www.repubblica.it/2006/10/calendari/bellezze/sharapova-sport/sharapova-sport/2.html



  133. Grand+Moff+Texan says:

    Why do we call them “right-wingers”? They make such cute little Soviets! Kuo is now an un-person. The AUMF wasn’t a vote for the war, according to Bush, but now it is. Clinton was wagging the dog bombing Afghanistan, now he “didn’t do anything about terror.”

    Cute little Soviets. They believe what they’re told until they’re told to believe something else. Then, they believe that.
    .


  134. big+papa says:

    Watched Kuo on The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer…

    …it’s obvious Kuo has been threatened and is beginning to back track…

    …or at least SOFTEN a lot of his claims…

    …he denied Karl Rove said this or did that…

    …denied he SAW this or that…

    …those fu*king Bushites are REAL hardball playing thugs…

    …i would have thought that given his “faith”…

    …Kuo would FEAR no man…

    …guess that doesn’t include DEMONS though…


  135. unbelievable says:

    Unbelieveble i got your picture in “black and white”. Hilarious!!!
    To your info this gorilla got down to 182 lb size 32 5,11 . lol!
    Comment by Sandy — October 16, 2006 @ 9:32 pm

    Let me bust you here, because clearly you do not know what I look like. I’m 5′-7″ – not 5″-11″, and I’m a size 6, not 32. How many freaking carrots would someone have to eat to weigh 182 pounds anyway? Yes, you forgot that I’m a vegan.

    The odds of you having been correct with your wild guess are slim to none at best. The fact that you tried is further proof of your insanity…


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