Cheney: ‘General Overall Situation’ In Iraq Is Going ‘Remarkably Well’
Cheney: ‘General Overall Situation’ In Iraq Is Going ‘Remarkably Well’
Rush Limbaugh interviewed Vice President Cheney on his show today. At one point, Limbaugh asked Cheney to respond to growing frustration over U.S. efforts in Iraq.
Cheney acknowledged there is a “natural level of concern out there” because fighting didn’t end “instantaneously.” (Next month, the war will have lasted longer than U.S. fighting in World War II.) Cheney then pointed to various news items to paint a positive picture of conditions in Iraq and concluded, “If you look at the general overall situation, they’re doing remarkably well.”
Full transcript:
CHENEY: Well, I think there’s some natural level of concern out there because in fact, you know, it wasn’t over instantaneously. It’s been a little over three years now since we went into Iraq, so I don’t think it’s surprising that people are concerned.
On the other hand, this government has only been in office about five months, five or six months now. They’re off to a good start. It is difficult, no question about it, but we’ve now got over 300,000 Iraqis trained and equipped as part of their security forces. They’ve had three national elections with higher turnout than we have here in the United States. If you look at the general overall situation, they’re doing remarkably well.
It’s still very, very difficult, very tough. Nobody should underestimate the extent to which we’re engaged there with this sort of, at present, the “major front” of the war on terror. That’s what Osama bin Laden says, and he’s right.
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And the Titanic was only a shipping accident.
And the Bay of Pigs liberated Cuba
etc, etc, etc.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:08 pmand how did you come up with that assessment? the green zone? come here so i can spit in your face sorry peckerwood.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:09 pmCheney is certifiable. Truly.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:10 pmIt is going remarkably well for him. Just think of all the money he and Halliburton have made off of it. Money money money! It's all about the money and oil! Meanwhile, Halliburton provided our military (the troops they claim to care so much about) contaminated water to bathe in. Contaminated water. Not to mention how this administration has short changed the troops seven different ways from Sunday since this money making scheme of theirs got started.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:11 pmThe Republican Party is in its last throes if you will.
Goper's Lament
October 17th, 2006 at 3:12 pmThey must have had some oxycotin party before that interview. Cheney is in La-la-land.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:12 pmIsn't that great that Cheney gets to propagandize the positives about Iraq with a mouthpiece for the neocons. Yet, the rest of the mainstream media or as Rush says at least every ten minutes "The Drive-by media" has it all wrong? Bet that was a tough interview huh?
October 17th, 2006 at 3:14 pmMaybe RUsh and all the right wing radio hosts can do one of their radio pow wows over in Iraq. You know where they gather all the right wing radio guys and let them interview republican after republican ina sort of round robing event. I think the square where the Sadaam statue was would be a nice place to do it. Since things are going so wimingly security can be handled by local Iraqii police.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:19 pmWell you know what THAT means! More torture of suspects! Jokes on you bitches! HAHAHAHA!!!
October 17th, 2006 at 3:20 pmAnd Compton is a nice place to visit in the Spring time.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:21 pmApollo 13 to Houston: "Our overall situation is Remarkably Well"
Hindenberg Captain to Mooring Staff: "Our overall situation is Remarkably Well"
Napolean at Waterloo: "Our overall situation is Remarkably Well"
October 17th, 2006 at 3:21 pmIs Douglas Feith still on the White House payroll?
October 17th, 2006 at 3:23 pmCheney needs to step out of the bunker once in awhile and check out reality. The families of the fallen won't be agreeing with shooter Cheney's viewpoint of Iraq.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:23 pmTranslation:
"Yeah, I'm making loads of friggin' cash off you suckers...
...we're going to stay in Iraq until Halliburton, GE, Bechtel and I can't squeeze another nickel out of your sorry as*es..
...what are you gonna do about it...
...sue me?
...We're RICH bi*ches!"
October 17th, 2006 at 3:23 pmAnd, I would love to have some of the drugs that Cheney is taking... seems to keep out the realties of the world and I could use some of that right about now.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:24 pmThis is the same guy who keeps insisting that there is a link between Al Qaeda and Iraq. He lives in an alternate universe.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:24 pmAs verified by the meet and greet walking the streets?
Oh thats right he hasn't been there.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:24 pmSo I have problem with saying the War has been going on for 4 years. The war was *over* when Saddam's statue fell, or there about. Since then, we have been occupying Iraq and the occupation seems to going rather poorly, I might add.
And we might be involved in a "Global War on Terror" somewhere, but outside of upsetting Muslims, I'm not convinced that Iraq has anything to do with the GWoT.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:25 pmCheney and Halliburton will be staying in Iraq until all the oil is gone.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:27 pmWhat could turn out to be the third deadliest month for US troops since the start of the wars in Afghan and Iraq, and that is: "doing remarkably well.†Could Dickhead be any further removed from reality???
October 17th, 2006 at 3:30 pmWell....o'liely interviews bush,limpdong has cheney on.....75% of the American people say they are full of shit....I see DESPERATION!...
October 17th, 2006 at 3:30 pmVote for the lesser of 2 evils.....and then we'll weed out the rest of the bad ones.
Oh, I get it! Iraq is doing so great that we don't need to have 141,000 troops in that country, freeing them up to use in an invasion of Iran!
Way to go, Dick!
October 17th, 2006 at 3:31 pmProsecute L'il Dick...
...and PUS Limphog...
October 17th, 2006 at 3:35 pmI guess he should have said that the situation is relatively better than surrendering to terrorists.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:39 pmSomeone needs to inform Elmer Fudd we have long since stopped dining on the propaganda meals.
Remarkably well you say? Go there first dumbass. Care for some juice with your Crow Elmer?
October 17th, 2006 at 3:39 pmOh, never thought of it that way! This whole time, I expected the fighting to end instantaneously! Thanks for setting me straight, Cheney.
Now I can see Iraq for the great success that it is.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:40 pmSo they got Billy O helping GWB shovel shit, and Limpballs helping Cheney pack paper bags full of shit to be lit on each Iraqi's doorstep.
Seems kinda desperate to me.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:41 pmOf course its going well. CHeney did say we would be greeted as liberators, haven't we? Seriously, Cheney is so ungodly evil and limpdick rush nods his head in agreement with the BS spewing out of his mouth. I would love to see these two clowns driving around baghdad in an open top convertible, you know to wave to all their adoring fans.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:42 pmis there ANYBODY who believes Cheney's bullshit any longer???
October 17th, 2006 at 3:43 pmI would like to see a Dave Chappelle skit on this. "we're rich you bitches".
Thanks for the idea Big Papa.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:44 pmReally unfair to the VP. What he said was:
Last month the Pentagon shipped over 30,000 pairs of Kevlar™ overalls to the troops, so he's essentially correct. Anyhow, I'd be careful about criticizing the man, as he can now come to your house and torture you legally.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:44 pmIraq is getting better. From antiwar.com:
Tuesday: 46 Killed, 48 Injured Across Iraq
That is WAY WAY down.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:46 pm#8 Maybe RUsh and all the right wing radio hosts can do one of their radio pow wows over in Iraq. You know where they gather all the right wing radio guys and let them interview republican after republican ina sort of round robing event. I think the square where the Sadaam statue was would be a nice place to do it. Since things are going so wimingly security can be handled by local Iraqii police.
Comment by Mark — October 17, 2006 @ 3:19 pm
Funny you should mention that Mark. I believe on the 24th this month, the White House is allowing all the right wing radio programs onto the White House lawn to do a radio row. Cabinet members will be giving interviews, etc. NO progressive radio programs were invited to this event. So not in Iraq, but right here in DC. So much for the fairness doctrine. Bush also met privately with several of the serfs as well and let them kiss his ring and then bid them to do his bidding.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:46 pmThe GOP has come full circle - from "plausible deniability" to implausible denial.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:47 pmWhat a gutsy move. I can't believe Cheney would venture into such hostile territory.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:47 pmTuesday: 46 Killed, 48 Injured Across Iraq
October 17th, 2006 at 3:48 pmTHINGS ARE GENERALLY WELL IN IRAQ (For Dick and his oil buddies)
The "democratically elected" government of Iraq has been given a deadline of December 1, 2006 to finish ans approve its legislation that will control the Iraqi oil industry.
The legislation is meant to determine, who will own the oil and what are the proper proceedures for foreign oil companies to apply to do business in Iraqi oil fileds.
Iraq is estimasted to have the largest oil supply in the world at 226 Billion barrels. If tapped, it could single handedly break the back of OPEC.
It is widely believed that Exxon-Mobil ($400 Million CEO Retirement), Chevron (Condi-Karzai), British Petroleum (Blair Bitch Project) and Shell will end up with the lion's share of the oil conservatively estimated to be 67-70 percent.
Now tell me again, why are we in Iraq?
October 17th, 2006 at 3:48 pmThe problem is not that they are so far removed from reality. Like others have said on this thread: They're making money and they're in power. They KNOW what they're doing. Some people talk about the Reps as if they have no brains, but the only stupid one that I can see on the republicans side is Bush himself. The rest of them are stone cold sober smart. The republicans have gained the house and the senate and are working on the supreme court and they'll have the whitehouse for two more years. Stupid? No. Scary? YES! Their only slip up is miscalculating how far wrong Iraq would go. They tried too much too soon. Anti-Bush is turning into anti-republican and I don't think they expected that.
To us it seems like they've got their heads in the sand, but I don't see the rush to publicly call them on it. The media has been very reluctant to expose that sort of thing. They're content with idealogical differences, not flat out calling a politician a liar, and you can practically hear the crickets chirping everytime they try to get a democrat to comment. They go through the motions of a dissenting opinion, but I don't see the outrage.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:48 pmI guess he should have said that the situation is relatively better than surrendering to terrorists.
Comment by paul
Paul, do I really have to drag the Reagan bat out again? Geez, I just finished cleaning the gunk off from last night . . .
October 17th, 2006 at 3:49 pmThis should remove any doubts that Cheney is as crazy as a shithouse rat on PCP.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:50 pmLike Rush said; he'll be posting the transcript on his website so the Drive-by-media can take his words and twist them.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:52 pmExamples of terrorist: George W Bush, aka Josef Stalin; Dick the shooter Cheney; and Donald "dementia" Rumsfeld. Now these folks are terrorist and I will never surrender to them.
"Be loyal to your country always, and to the government only when it deserves it." - Mark Twain.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:53 pm#40 - grytpype
LOL - that was funny.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:54 pmA destroyed, as a unitary state, Iraq, occupation stretching as far as the eye can see, massive amounts of tax dollars transfered to his cronies, $9 billion stolen most of it by his fellow rethugs. Hell yes it's going remarkably well for them
October 17th, 2006 at 3:55 pmAnd with Chimpy and Darth consistently expressing confidence in retaining Congress, just waiting on some "event" i.e. an October surprise. The event will be orchestrated and to be such a "grave threat", the elections are suspended, and Bush declares martial law.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:55 pmOh, I get it now - over 650,000 dead Iraqis doesn't mean squat, not to mention nearly 3,000 of our troops killed and over 20k maimed - and for what? The blood-sucking baby-killer Cheney and his gang are just warming up. These GOPerverts just never cease to amaze me. Why can't Cheney the Terrible do humanity a favor and just die already?
October 17th, 2006 at 3:56 pmGotta keep reassuring the 33%.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:56 pmCheeks - I didn't know that the "drive by media" actually had time to stop and read websites. They must be talented to drive and read websites without getting into an accident. But what would drug addict Rush know anyway.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:56 pmPaul,
YOU already have surrendered to the TRUE terrorists.
Who's killed more Americans... OBL or GWB?
Who's giving up freedoms, Americans or terrorists?
Don't ya see they have won already, idiots like you running around crying wolf.
We're at 3,000 troop dead in Iraq, and that doesn't count those were could make it to say Germany and later died of complications. Those are not counted against the death toll in Iraq. How about the 60,000 Injured? MIssing a leg, missing an arm, and so on. no biggie eh?
Let's not even count the Americans here who die every year because of lack of healthcare, as well as decreased regulations on things like arsenic in drinking water. We'll pay for that for years to come.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:56 pmAs the sometimes CEO of the Halliburton War Corporation, any war that has provided this war profiteer with more money is going exceedingly well. Bush and Cheney duped an ignorant electorate into believing that they were the good guys when in reality anyone paying attention during their run for office new they were charlatans of the highest order. I recall when these idiots were telling the American people before they started their "war" that it would be of short duration, few lives lost, cost little and paid for with Iraqi oil. The war is over 3 years 7 months in length with no end in sight, tens of thousands killed and maimed and Bush and Cheney have squandered over $330,000,000,000 to date of our national treasury. Of course this all could not be accomplished without the support of the corrupt republican congress and idiots like Rash Lamebrain in the talk radio land.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:57 pmBusy news day for Bush and Cheney and the Republicans running for office.
October 17th, 2006 at 3:59 pmThey must be nervous about the upcoming election... trying to keep the spin on Iraq positive as opposed to truthful.
Nova16 - love that name "Rash Lamebrain", good one.
October 17th, 2006 at 4:02 pmI wish the whole administration would take a ride through Baghdad in an unarmored HUMMVEE and see how well we're doing. And take Ken Starr too.
October 17th, 2006 at 4:02 pmcheney is a dildo!
October 17th, 2006 at 4:03 pmCheney is either seriously nuts, or he is just trying to shore up the 25 or 30% of American cult members who are still with him. I vote for the second choice, but I am not too sure anymore. He might just be nuts.
October 17th, 2006 at 4:05 pmKeep on smilin Richard Bruce Cheney.
October 17th, 2006 at 4:09 pmYour time is shorter than you can imagine.
The payback will last longer than you can imagine.
#42. Joseph Kennedy, Charles Lindberg, Neville Chamberlain, etc...
October 17th, 2006 at 4:09 pmAM I THE ONLY ONE SICKENED BY THIS BS?
Do the 30% koolaid drinkers even beleive Cheney? I mean they might be a lot of things but are they this gulible? President Cheney should be put out to pasture after this election season. WHAT are these guys doing for the average Joe that makes folks listen to the BS from Rush, Hannity, O'Liely and the like and then run with it as if it is true? HELP!!!
Texas Juice.
October 17th, 2006 at 4:11 pmDarth Cheney is really Baghdad Bob?
Who would've thought it were true??? Until now, that is.
October 17th, 2006 at 4:12 pmDoes that 300,000 figure happen to include the brigade that was removed from duty for being hit-squads?
October 17th, 2006 at 4:15 pmOnly a few die hard trolls left...awwwww. Is this the best fox has got?
October 17th, 2006 at 4:15 pmtrolls: "Fox just announced that the sky is falling!" ...jump on this, 'It's Clintons fault!'.....now git git.....
That's OK. The only people who would listen to Limbaugh's show are the 30% of idiots who still believe this shit anyway. No harm done for the 70% with a functioning brain stem who wrote Uncle Dick long ago.
October 17th, 2006 at 4:16 pmA recent poll suggests only 16% believe Cheney. One can assume they are the crooked cronies and feable minded.
October 17th, 2006 at 4:20 pmThen fly into Baghdad, for an ANNOUNCED VISIT. Instead of sneaking in like a weasel
October 17th, 2006 at 4:23 pmPaul, you are a pathetic joke
October 17th, 2006 at 4:30 pmCheney gave Rush an exclusive. Bush sat down with Bill O'Reilly for one of those tough interviews. Lieberman reported to have poured the coffee.
October 17th, 2006 at 4:30 pmI wonder if Cheney believes what he is saying or is he simply shameless? No objective person could claim that "they are doing remarkabley well" unless he's talking about the insurgents.
It has to be dawning on even those closest to the Kool-Aid pitcher, that Iraq is pure hell on earth, and we made it that way.
According to Robert Bryce in an article for Salon:
Instead of the energy riches predicted by Wolfowitz, millions of Iraqis are now living in dire energy poverty. In Baghdad, there is little or no electricity, little or no motor fuel, and little or no kerosene for home heating. Moreover, according to energy expert Jim Placke, who has been following Iraq's oil business since 1959 when he worked for the State Department in Baghdad, the situation appears to be getting worse.
The insurgents are targeting the energy infrastructure with increasing success, says Placke, who is a senior associate at Cambridge Energy Research Associates. "By doing so, they embarrass the coalition forces and the Iraqi government that they can't keep gas stations supplied with motor fuel. It's very disruptive and it makes the average Iraqi's life that much more difficult."
October 17th, 2006 at 4:32 pmUnbelieveable...at the very least there is outrage here. However, the majority of the citizens of this nation could care less. Where is the freaking outrage? There are actually still people like Paul???
October 17th, 2006 at 4:33 pmI think the shooter may be referring to the country as a whole here and he might be right from that angle *cough*….but lets assume he is parsing it that way….what he’s skipping over, is the fact that that little parcel of land called the “triangle†where 80% of the populace reside, kinda sucks….then again, the mortality rate may have brought the percentage down to only 50…..
October 17th, 2006 at 4:36 pmHuh. Maybe he means that Halliburton is doing "remarkably well" in terms of war profiteering.
October 17th, 2006 at 4:38 pmTricky Dick has it all wrong....the appropriate adjective according to Coulter is "swimmingly"!! hahaha! what a joke! In excess of 400,000 Iraqis killed is neither swimmingly nor classified as 'remarkably well' - is he on the same planet these days? Just wondering which one he's living on.....I think I know the answer to that one though....It's Uranus!
October 17th, 2006 at 4:40 pmNo doubt about that - it's Halliburton which is going "remarkably well" - how do you spell: NO BID CONTRACT?? I call it corruption.
October 17th, 2006 at 4:40 pmIt must be very comfortable for many here at TP. The reason you cannot understand how the other half of the country thinks, is that you won't venture outside to see. You can eventually make a decision to exercise your ideas with those that disagree with you or continue to surround yourselves with like-minded souls and retreat back into a pity party after the elections and wonder, why?
October 17th, 2006 at 4:49 pmFrom what i've read, the violence is spreading to the north and south and areas that were once thought of as safe havens are becoming increasingly dangerous.
On the other hand, the Iraq has turned into a virtual paradise for every terrorist wanna-be in the ME.
We've totally screwed Iraq, and there is is little or nothing we can do at this point, to make it better.
October 17th, 2006 at 4:49 pmHe lives in an alternate universe.
Comment by Republicans are the fear and smear party — October 17, 2006 @ 3:24 pm
I wish... Then we wouldn't have to deal with him. Can we send him to one?
October 17th, 2006 at 4:54 pmPaul what other half of the country do you speak of? 60% of Americans are not in favor of this war. The King's approval rating is 36% what half are you talking about? Besides, I've been to those sites and they all are full of Fox news type verbal wrestlemania, if you have a dissenting opinion you're labled an appeaser, move to France or Canada and shouted down in all caps. I'd like to see you back here after the November elections to apologize and thank us for voting in a congress that will protect this country, your rights and have some respect for US and international law. But keep on carrying the ball for the "Bring on Armagedon" crowd.
October 17th, 2006 at 4:57 pm"That’s what Osama bin Laden says, and he’s right."
Chilling that Cheney gets to quote Bin Laden .....
October 17th, 2006 at 5:01 pmHeadline:
Cheney says, "Bin Laden... Is Right."
October 17th, 2006 at 5:02 pm#73
October 17th, 2006 at 5:08 pmActually, it's only about 30% of the country that thinks differently from us. Of course, if you count the whole planet, then it's only about 1% who disagree with us. And believe it or not, we have heard your side. It's just that we, like the vast majority of citizens here and abroad, find your veiwpoint to be full of shit.
#76. approval ratings don't indicate a change in ideology (the elections will be very close to 50%); if you've been dismissed on conservative sights, welcome to my world here; I guarantee that I will not move to Canada; and if there is some kind of landslide that sweeps democrats into power in the house and/or senate, I will be back here to say 'I was wrong'. I've done it before. For you, I wouldn't count your chickens before they've hatched. You're not getting a clear picture here at TP.
October 17th, 2006 at 5:10 pmThat story about Halliburton acquiring the asbestos liabilities of Dresser Industries raises an interesting point...
Cheney KNEW that Dresser had the most massive liability issue on planet earth (he had to have known) yet decided to pay good money to bring Dresser's problems under Halliburton's tent.
This raises the question...who were the largest shareholders of Dresser - in need of a lifeboat to save their own personal bacon? Anyone named Bush? Anyone named Carlyle?
The deal went like this:
Cheney agrees for Halliburton to take on the Dresser asbestos liability.
It is determined that Bush and Cheney will be (s)elected, and that the PNAC plan will be implemented - using 9/11 as the essential pretext.
Ken Lay plays his role using his Enron smoke and mirrors tactics to create a faux energy crisis in California, causing the public to demand an energy-savvy administration be elected.
With the asbestos liability and other matters hanging in the balance, the election of 2000 simply had to be rigged in order for the plan to go in to effect.
Following the appointment of Bush and Cheney, the secret energy planning meeting established which oil companies would reap the rewards of the pending invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran.
The timing and the pretext were predetermined, and 9/11 was greenlighted for 9/11/2001. Cheney outsourced the implementation to Mossad, and ran the show from his bunker on D Day under the cover of preplanned drills simulating the exact attack that was proscribed, with NORAD as coconspirator. At least 50 administration officials and countless foreign agents were in on it.
Once the entire charade was concluded, the Administration generally, and Cheney specifically, had every reason in the world to blame Iraq.
The Afghanistan mission could not provide Halliburton with enough revenue to offset the massive asbestos liability claim. Iraq and Iran are essential wars in order to provide cover for the infusion of the billion of TAX DOLLARS necessary to both profit Halliburton for its actual work AND cover the massive asbestos liability claims.
Now you know why Halliburton was awarded the contracts without the need to bid for them. This was all prearranged.
NOTE: Private enterprise pushed its legal/financial obligations onto tax payers using war as the excuse.
The asbestos liability claims of Dresser Industries were ultimately paid by you and me, and our troops in the field, all to ensure that the investors in Dresser didn't take the multibillion dollar loss.
Just one piece of a very large chessboard.
Hang them for TREASON.
October 17th, 2006 at 5:16 pmYou’re not getting a clear picture here at TP.
Comment by paul — October 17, 2006 @ 5:10 pm
I can't believe I have to explain this to an adult.
This isn't our only source for information. Unlike you, we read other sources. It isn't disloyal, but intelligent to get your news from more than one source. Sheesh.
October 17th, 2006 at 5:17 pm.
9/11 WHISTLEBLOWER BOMBSHELL!!!
Military Sergeant Reveals The TRUTH OF 9/11:
http://www.v911t.org/SergeantLauroChavez.php
October 17th, 2006 at 5:18 pmThe reason you cannot understand how the other half of the country thinks, is that you won’t venture outside to see.
Comment by paul — October 17, 2006 @ 4:49 pm
Maybe I should introduce you to my in-laws, I bet you would feel at home with them: The Bible is literally true, the Earth is 6,000 years old, Noah's Ark has been found at the top of Mount Ararat, Hindus and Buddhists are Devil worshippers, evolution is a hoax, and the Pope is the Devil incarnate.
I get plenty of different points of view, thank you. You are a joke.
October 17th, 2006 at 5:24 pmThe utmost nadir of Hell must contain a place that has been awaiting the members of this administration since the beginning of time. They are truly among the worst people in the history of the planet.
October 17th, 2006 at 5:28 pmBy 5-deferment Dickhead's standards, Custer's fight at the Little Big Horn was a brilliant victory-for Custer.
October 17th, 2006 at 5:29 pmI can’t believe I have to explain this to an adult.
Comment by unbelievable
Hence, your moniker.
October 17th, 2006 at 5:29 pmAs long as Cheney's Oil Cartel pals get the Iraq crude, then Dicky is a happy ugly man > lol.
October 17th, 2006 at 5:29 pmAnd the Earth is flat!
October 17th, 2006 at 5:29 pm"spring time for.."
October 17th, 2006 at 5:30 pmWhat planet did Cheney fly in from. Wow the worlds flat...
October 17th, 2006 at 5:32 pmThe DNC, DSCC, etc., need to turn this clip into an attack ad post haste.
October 17th, 2006 at 5:39 pm#84. I don't believe in any of it. I'm an agnostic. More proof that you need to get out more.
October 17th, 2006 at 5:39 pm“If you look at the general overall situation, they’re doing remarkably well.â€
I bet he really thinks so. After all, nobody in the Cheney clan has died as a result of the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
Out of sight, out of mind.
[...]we’re engaged there with this sort of, at present, the “major front†of the war on terror.
Even though nobody will tell us for sure if we are "winning" or "losing".
This is an extensive engagement in a war where there is no measure of success. How ridiculous is that? What death toll is the American public willing to accept in this open-ended conflict?
October 17th, 2006 at 5:40 pmI don’t believe in any of it. I’m an agnostic. More proof that you need to get out more.
Comment by paul — October 17, 2006 @ 5:39 pm
More proof you are too obtuse to understand the point of my post, since *I* am the one who has regular, personal contact with people who hold views completely opposite to mine -hence laying to rest your idiotic rant about me "needing to get out more".
October 17th, 2006 at 5:44 pmYet more evidence that the Bush Administration is in major denial. Could we ask for better campaign fodder? I hope Cheney campaigns around the country touting this message far and wide.
October 17th, 2006 at 5:48 pmi wonder where paul thinks one should go to get a "clearer" picture? faux snooze? i believe what cheney means is, considering what a shitty job they have done with this occupation, (that's a completely different subject) and the atrocity perpetuated on our military and the Iraqi people by this regime, yeah, i guess one could say things are going "remarkably well," not. making a few bucks to boot don't hurt.
October 17th, 2006 at 5:48 pmIf Mr. Cheney is so confident it's going well, I double-dog-dare him to go to Iraq himself - unarmed (because, duh, he doesn't NEED protection) and stand ALONE in the middle of a Baghdad street.
Hey, I said ALONE! No SS (Secret Service, not Stormtroopers) available to coddle him.
Ouch. Gunshot wounds hurt.
I voted Republican once. In 1980. For John Anderson.
NEVER AGAIN.
Hear that, sissy-boy, or should I say, girly-man?
N*E*V*E*R
October 17th, 2006 at 5:51 pmBoth of these morons just open their mouths and shit starts tumbling out.
October 17th, 2006 at 5:54 pmFor those who doubt that the U.S. is in serious trouble, please find
a map of the Middle East. Locate Baghdad on the map and then find the
Iranian border.
Can you say Iran-Contra: Part 2. Iran just has to sneeze.
October 17th, 2006 at 5:55 pm#80 paul
if there is some kind of landslide that sweeps democrats into power in the house and/or senate, I will be back here to say ‘I was wrong’. I’ve done it before. For you, I wouldn’t count your chickens before they’ve hatched. You’re not getting a clear picture here at TP.
First off, if that happens and you come back here and say "I was wrong", I promise not to taunt you. I'll be amazed, but I will most certainly respect you for it.
Secondly, none of us lives here. And none of us travels around the country enough to be able to say how people are going to vote in every part of the country. But, I get my information in a lot of places. There are some places I won't bother to look, Fox News for example, because I've seen so many lies and distortions coming from them. I won't waste my time with Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. Those people don't even attempt to deal in fact. Network news leaves out a lot. Newspapers do, too. That just leaves me with websites with reporting from serious and diligent investigative reporters.
As for polls, I wouldn't put much stock in any one poll, but when you've got about a dozen different polling companies calling people all over the country, and it's a different sample of 500 to 1,000 people every couple of weeks, and almost every one of them over the past two years is telling us that people in general don't like Bush, they don't believe Bush, and they think he's doing a lousy job at just about everything, I think that's a pretty fair indication of what the 'people out there' are thinking.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:02 pmIsn't it more than a little ironical, more than a little moronic, more than a little disgraceful, more than a little demeaning, more than a little disrespectful to the meories of the 3,000 ... that (dark side) Cheney, and his side-kick Bush are actually quoting OBL as an authority and as a reference for their disgraceful spin???!!!
And is it not at least equally disgraceful (etc) that the MSM simply parrot the Bush-sh.. and the Cheney-isms with not even a trace of irony. I guess that's to be expected from the likes of Limbaugh but it's remarkable how the same applies to so many on CNN and others.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:08 pmMay the Bushettes stick their "Netural" so far up their acts the sun don't shine and their brains completely drain whatever sludge is left there - then we all can take a shower...
October 17th, 2006 at 6:09 pm[...] Posted on Tuesday 17 October 2006 Cheney: ‘General Overall Situation’ In Iraq Is Going ‘Remarkably Well’ [...]
October 17th, 2006 at 6:10 pmThere have been 3,005 coalition deaths, 2,771 Americans, two Australians, 119 Britons, 13 Bulgarians, six Danes, two Dutch, two Estonians, one Fijian, one Hungarian, 32 Italians, one Kazakh, one Latvian, 17 Poles, two Romanians, two Salvadoran, three Slovaks, 11 Spaniards, two Thai and 18 Ukrainians in the war in Iraq as of October 17, 2006, according to a CNN count
At least 21,077 U.S. troops have been wounded in action, according to the Pentagon
Way to go Cheney... heck of a job
October 17th, 2006 at 6:11 pmCome on Think Progress. World War II lasted 6 years for most of the World. I guess from a myopic American viewpoint, of course, nothing happens if the US isn't involved. For the record, people started dying on September 1, 1939, when Germany invaded Poland. I think that must be in some history book available somewhere in the United States. It was May 7, 1945 before Germany officially surrendered and September 2 when Japan gives up. That's almost 6 years to the day. (Some outposts continued to fight after that.) And since the British are as complicit in the Iraq mess as the Americans you should at least acknowledge them - they started fighting September 3, 1945.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:12 pmThe jerk must be suffering from dimentia or is a lunatic who needs to be admitted to the nearest asylem. Perhaps the whole friggin' gang of four should accompany him.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:19 pmok, at this point, there is nothing left of this soul of this man.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:22 pmWell it IS going remarkably well .... for an undertaking that was initiated on the basis of barefaced lies and which has been mismanaged in every possible way since then.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:22 pmWhew. And I thought Iraq might get to be a problem.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:24 pmPaul, guess what? No one here cares what you think. I know that is probably pretty hard for you to believe. I am sure in your circle of friends you are the most authoritarian personality and tend to project your opinion and point of view on those around you which makes you feel very dominant and smart.
That is my big issue with people on the right. You have the most self centered, narcissistic worldview. You believe that the rest of us need to think and act as you do. You believe that if only you “explained†it to us we would finally “get it†and see the world as you do. You know you're right, so obviously we must be wrong.
Well guess what, we have a differing opinion and are not interested in what you think. The world is not black and white. There are lots of shades of gray. People don’t always agree and see things the same way. I don’t feel like you (Paul) need to agree with me to validate my personal worldview, so please stop trying to convince us of yours.
Sit home, watch Fox News, listen to Rush Limbaugh and keep thinking your right and we’re wrong. WE DON’T CARE! What are you doing on this website anyway? I don’t go to RepubliCON websites and try to convince people of my convictions because I don’t give a SH!T if they agree with me.
And by the way, I read several magazines, newspapers, read lots of books, listen to political radio (from both sides) before I take in all the facts and formulate my own opinion. I would urge you to do the same.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:25 pm...they started fighting September 3, 1945.
Comment by Stan Jones — October 17, 2006 @ 6:12 pm
ROFL... so the British started fighting the day after Japan surrendered? News to me. Me thinks you need to correct your year there.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:31 pmquite the response from cheney, who has never seen action in a war. rhumsfeld leads the american troops from his desk at the pentagon, another warmonger who has not witnessed the horrors of war from a battlefield.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:32 pmbacked by the biggest coward of all, jr. bush, aka. the cheerleader, the conneticut cowboy, the killer of hundreds of thousands of iraq women and babies. how on earth did these people become americas leaders, certainly not by setting an example of bravery, or of defending their country.
to say that the iraq war is "going remarkably well", illustrates, glaringly, that cheney and his thugs are simply to arrogant or ignorant to live. these people deserve to die the gruesome deaths of the helpless and defenceless people they have commited geonocide on.
bush, cheney, rhummy have their special place in hell reserved.
I don't think I've ever seen as blatant a liar as Dick Cheney.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:40 pmIt's absolutely amazing.
Well, isn't that a shot in the face.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:47 pmShow of hands please. How many of you noticed that he didn't really say what the headline attributed? He seems to be saying that the Iraqi government and security forces are doing well, given the overall situation. This is a distortion worthy of Fox News.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:48 pmI know of someone who just got back from a one year deployment. I think he would disagree with Cheney's position. Given where Cheney has been for the last year, I'd have to go with the person who was on site.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:49 pmelections? turnout? Saddam had elections too, he usually won 99% of the vote, that musta been real democratic.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:50 pmheckuva job rush
October 17th, 2006 at 7:00 pmRush must be sharing his oxycontin.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:01 pmWill the bullsh!t ever end... This guy is so going to hell....
October 17th, 2006 at 7:15 pmWhat did George say to Jerry during the lie detector test, "It isn't a lie if you believe it".
Cheney's old steel heart has corroded and the rust particles have migrated to his brain. The man is delusional. He has lost touch with reality. It's time for an evaluation before sending him off to an undisclosed location for permanent residency.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:35 pmHitler
What really gets my hackles up is that Cheney gets way too little press in all this. Cheney that thinks of Cheney first, last and always.
lastly........
Theodore Roosevelt
And to our friend Paul. Just one question...
What's your favorite koolaid flavor?
October 17th, 2006 at 7:36 pmDick says Osama is right.....it's the major front for the war on terror. Conveniently opened like a gaping wound by him and the Bushies. So why is the administration holding Osama in such high regard thee days, anyway? why do they keep quoting him all of sudden, like he's one of those Fox News experts they trot out all fo the time? That's a long way from "I don't think about him" a year after 9/11. Disgusting, ridiculous, stupidity.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:37 pm[...] On Iraq, Mr. Last Throes states: [...]
October 17th, 2006 at 7:43 pmGood point, Dick...right on. Please pass the Kool-Aid.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:47 pm[...] In Bizarro World Darth Cheney claims “the general overall situation” is going “remarkably well”… Meanwhile in the real world things aren’t going that swimmingly… Further demonstrating the growing fragmentation in Iraq, a bloc of Sunni insurgent groups marked the anniversary by declaring a separate Islamic republic in Iraq, stretching from the western province of Anbar to Baghdad, Kirkuk and other parts of the north. The announcement was made by a spokesman for the Mujaheddin Shura Council, an umbrella organization of insurgent groups that includes al-Qaeda in Iraq, and aired by al-Jazeera satellite television. [...]
October 17th, 2006 at 7:48 pmThe monkeys and lunitics are running this country it is about time we
October 17th, 2006 at 7:49 pmexercise that right to abolish that goverment thru the ballot box.It is
time we restablish sanity to our goverment and never let it happen
again for our children and grand-children.
Rush gave Cheney some of his drugs before they went on the air.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:50 pmHow delusional can this guy be? Doesn't he realize what he and bubba have done to destroy this country, not only internally but with the rest of the world. What a PUTZ!!!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:54 pm"remarkably well"= I was worth 1 million after #39, 10 million pre #41 and now I am worth well over 60 million.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:58 pm#105 J Jung
In your death accounting, you left out 660,000 Iraqis!!!!!
Just an oversight on your part, right?
October 17th, 2006 at 8:04 pmAll i see in this comment section is:
delusional
idiots
monkeys
lunatics
Kool-Aid
lies
ignorant
arrogant
I am here to say,
October 17th, 2006 at 8:05 pmYour all: right.
"I don’t think I’ve ever seen as blatant a liar as Dick Cheney.
It’s absolutely amazing."
It's mental illness.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:07 pmOf course they had a large turnout for voting, nobody works. And, Cheney, how come the majority of Iraqis want the U.S. out?
October 17th, 2006 at 8:07 pmAmmo Dump Explosions - Media blackout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlM3BDojdLo&mode=related&search
from an Arabic news broadcast. Notice at 4:00 what appears to be a small nuke going off. ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBMqTpDnitA&mode=related&search
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlM3BDojdLo&eurl
4 mins into the video, there's a huge explosion and subsequent mushroom cloud. Why haven't we heard anything about this since it happened? How many american troops were injured? How many died? Why the news blackout? American voters want to know.
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Nothing to see here. Just move along.
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Whatever was blown into the air and thrown out of the left side of that mushroom cloud at 3:57 or so was HUGE. The media needs to ask what the HELL is going on over there. I
wonder how many Americans were killed as a result of this rocket attack and subsequent explosions.
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You will hear of the casualties after the election.
Email the Public Editor @ the NYTs:
Public @ nytimes.com
Ask him if they're sitting on this story until a year after the election just as they did the NSA wiretapping story.
Ask him
= I blogged about it the other day...
http://www.blah3.com/article.php?story=2006101310595728...
And another blogger showed up in my comments and left this link:
http://piglipstick.blogspot.com/2006/10/news-blackout-o...
He took the question of 'What happened with that ammo dump fire?' and ran with it. He's got a YouTube video of the fire on his blog. You gotta check it out - especially what happens at about 3:59 of the video.
A MASSIVE explosion, and I mean massive. It looks like a goddam nuke going off.
Must-see
October 17th, 2006 at 8:11 pmYes, things are going remarkably well. For you. $$$$$
October 17th, 2006 at 8:11 pmThis interview is absolutely outrageous. I cannot believe these guys are still smiling and saying that everything is going well. What the hell planet do they live on?
October 17th, 2006 at 8:13 pm"I guess he should have said that the situation is relatively better than surrendering to terrorists."
What terrorists! The fighting and killing in Iraq is a civil war between the shites and the sunni! The Bush Adminstration better start making some God damn plan instead of...I don't know what they are doing! Other than acting like the weakest and lowest form of people on this planet.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:15 pmRush and Dick represent the PSYCHOPATHS within our society. It's also known as the modern term: ANTI-SOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER. You can add to this NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER.
In a nutshell, it basically means you have no conscience, you are callous, you have no empathy, you are manipulative, you use charm, manipulation, intimidation, and violence to control others, lacking in conscience and in feelings for others, no sense of guilt or regret, they have no remorse or anxiety.
And the people who follow Dick, Bush, Rove, Rummy are Psychopaths themselves.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:23 pmCheney and Limburger will say the same thing when they do interviews from hell.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:33 pmIraq is estimasted to have the largest oil supply in the world at 226 Billion barrels. If tapped, it could single handedly break the back of OPEC.
Now tell me again, why are we in Iraq?
Comment by Pissed+Off — October 17, 2006 @ 3:48 pm
It is not common knowledge but Venezula has reserves of 1.3 Trillion barrels of "heavy" oil which is more than the world's proven reserves of "light" oil. The problem is getting it out of the ground economically. I think the price of oil has to be around $30 barrel to get this oil. No wonder Bush wants to get rid of Hugo!!!!
October 17th, 2006 at 8:34 pmBush signs torture bill; Americans lose essential freedom. October 17, 2006
George W. Bush got what he wanted, ostensibly as a tool in his unfocused "war on terror": By signing into law the Military Commissions Act of 2006, Bush has made it legal for the C.I.A. to continue operating torture facilities in undisclosed, foreign countries, and for the writ of habeas corpus to be suspended for individuals who are designated "enemy combatants" against the U.S. (Designated by whom? That question remains unanswered.) The law also "establishes military tribunals that would allow some use of evidence obtained by coercion [that is, torture], but would give defendants access to classified evidence being used to convict them." (Reuters)
The provisions of Bush's new torture law mean that Americans have lost the key, constitutional right on which Anglo-American criminal law (and criminal-law procedures in true democracies in general) is founded; that's the basic right of an individual to know why he or she is being apprehended and detained. Now, technically, as in Stalin's Soviet Union, Hitler's Germany, Mao's China or Pol Pot's Cambodia, anyone labeled an "enemy combatant" - again, by whom; by Bush? - can be whisked away and never heard from again. That kind of authority, in the hands of corrupt or untruthful politicians, may or may not be an effective tool in some kind of "war on terror," but it certainly can be a useful tool when it comes to silencing their opponents.
In an Orwellian pronouncement dutifully reported by Voice of America, the taxpayer-funded "news" service that acts as a mouthpiece for the administration, Bush said: "The United States does not torture....It is against our laws and it is against our values. By allowing the C.I.A. program to go forward, this bill is preserving a tool that has saved American lives." Bush's claim flies in the face of numerous reports of torture conducted by American officials at U.S. military prisons or secret locations overseas.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:40 pmThe gospel according to Bush-Cheney
Jesus Christ is an enemy combatent
Nailing to the cross is not torture
October 17th, 2006 at 8:40 pmrush on dick is hilarious.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:52 pmI got nothin'
Caption Contest!!
Alright Limbaugh, I wanna see both of your hands, right now!!
October 17th, 2006 at 9:17 pmhere's what's unreal: I was having my car worked on at Just Brakes and when they took me into the garage to show me what is wrong with the car, there was this super loud radio playing you guessed it: Rush Limbaugh. So please, there are guys who have oil under their nails for life and they think the Republicans are on their side? Too too much...
October 17th, 2006 at 9:26 pmSo now both Bush and Cheney are looking to OBL for their military strategy!?!?!? IF OBL says we should be fighting in Iraq then that's the last place we should be. He wants the US tied down in Iraq ao he can plot his next "Spectacular Strike" in peace. WTF is wrong with these F**ktards?? Doesn't anyone in the administration read Sun's Art of War? Maybe someone should sneak it into Chimpy's reading pile instead of the "Shakespeares".
October 17th, 2006 at 9:28 pmHe's gotta need help taking a crap. He's so full of it, that it's got to constipate him. He's the lying son of a bitch I've ever seen in my lifetime.
October 17th, 2006 at 9:46 pmanyone labeled an “enemy combatant†- again, by whom; by Bush? - can be whisked away and never heard from again. That kind of authority, in the hands of corrupt or untruthful politicians, may or may not be an effective tool in some kind of “war on terror,†but it certainly can be a useful tool when it comes to silencing their opponents.
Comment by ren — October 17, 2006 @ 8:40 pm
Ren, just a couple of points. Under the Law, the government can shield classified evidence from the defendant.
And people can be locked up indefinitely, without a hearing, pending determination of whether or not they are an enemy combatant.
In other words, a legal immigrant could be caught up in a sweep of, say, people with Muslim surnames...or even Hispanic surnames, and incarcerated for the rest of her or his natural life without ever knowing why, pending a determination of whether or not she or he is an "unlawful enemy combatant." There is no time frame for when that determination must be made. It need never be made. And no judge can ever hear a claim of habeus corpus on their behalf.
The United States Constitution no longer applies to legal immigrants.
Now, if the Repuiblican Congress can strip Constitutional rights from some persons by merely passing a statute and removing jurisdiction of the courts to hear a challenge, it can strip Constitutional rights from every one the same way.
October 17th, 2006 at 10:03 pmThat comment of Cheney's may, and in any case deserves to, become as notorious as Bush's "Mission Accomplished" set-piece on the aircraft carrier. The mind boggles.
October 17th, 2006 at 10:12 pmYo Cheney! I bet ya Hitler would fire Goebbles, his Propoganda Chief in a heart beat to hire you. With all the talents you have in that department, no wonder, only horn you can toot is a goddamn right wing one. I and rest of us Americans do see your point, war is going swell. Geez what do you tell the mothers, daughters, and wifes of soldiers who died for your swell ideas.
October 17th, 2006 at 10:20 pmThanks for helping create not only the deficits, but also thousands of terrorists for the future generations.
It truly doesn't matter. Rush's listeners are lost souls. Cheney's just preaching to the choir of Limbaugh.
October 17th, 2006 at 10:31 pmCheney said "things are going well" and "thank God for stop loss orders".
October 17th, 2006 at 10:33 pmIt, for the most part is understandable that persons who populate a website with an agenda might have similar leanings to the website, whatever that might be, but 153 persons who really give a shit about this situation, I really doubt it, my guess is someone with an agenda makes up these names and writes derogatory remarks. Aside from 3000 dead soldiers and their immediate friends and family I really dont see how any American is affected negatively by this war, in fact, they only benefit. The war is going well, every day there are less people who believe in god, who believe that god, (or their dog, or their dead prophet) or whatever, has commanded to go out and kill people so that they can go to a place where they can have sex with 72 virgins who then, they presumably must kill because they won't be virgins any more, even though if they are in a place where everyone is dead the virgins must be dead too. Please, please, please, all you 153 prepubescent jr highschoolers, study your history and learn from it. A war which kills 3000 people in 3 years is no war at all. In real wars 3000 people an hour die, cities of 100,000 are reduced to ashes in a night, 25,000,000 die and the United States always wins. Live with it, you can't change it. Even when they loose they win.
October 17th, 2006 at 10:49 pmInteresting that Cheney is quoting Bin Laden. And when Bin Laden says that prolonging the war in Iraq is good for al Qaeda, does Cheney quote that? Nope.
I'm sure the families of the 53 American soldiers killed last month will be glad to hear that their sacrifices were part of a 'remarkably good' phase in Iraq's history.
October 17th, 2006 at 10:49 pmYou really DO have to look at the overall situation to evaluate Iraq- and given the fact that we're losing the war--we're not doing so badly- much better than Hitler on the eastern front for example. In fact we may be in the top 10 percent of nations to lose a war in terms of how we're doin.
Cheney's right again.
October 17th, 2006 at 10:53 pmThe vice president is speaking for an administration which couldn't find its ass with both hands, when it comes to planning anything. So, I guess I would have to agree, we are lucky the entire world hasn't been blown to bits, yet.
October 17th, 2006 at 11:00 pmCheney said they had 300,000 Security Forces Trained? Thats more than twice as many troops as we have over there. That Gen Zinney or whatever is name is said we would need 300,000 boots on the ground to invade Irag successfully. Well, if they have 300,000 Security forces trained and ready to "stand up" shouldn't our troops be "standing down" by now?
October 17th, 2006 at 11:04 pmOh, by the way, a friend of mine lost her grandson yesterday in Iraq to an IED. Thank You Rush and Dick.
"we've been in Iraq a little over three years and I don't think it's surprising that people are concerned" CONCERNED????? Come on mr. Cheney. People aren't concerned. People are PISSED. I really don't know how you guys sleep at night.
October 17th, 2006 at 11:22 pmhttp://limbaugh.com/?q=lies
October 17th, 2006 at 11:28 pm"we've been in Iraq a little over three years and I don't think it's surprising that people are concerned." Concerned???????? Come on Mr. Cheney, people aren't concerned. People are PISSED. I really don't know how you guys sleep at night.
October 17th, 2006 at 11:31 pm[...] The ThinkProgress blog reports about a Rush Limbaugh radio interview of Vice President Cheney. [...]
October 17th, 2006 at 11:34 pmWell, to be fair, the guys he talks to are not too concerned. They are making the big bucks.
October 17th, 2006 at 11:39 pmHe may as well have said: "Hitler says the 3rd reich is bad for the Jews, and, you know, he's right." or "Johnnie Cochran says if the glove don't fit, you must aquit. And, you know, he's right".
October 17th, 2006 at 11:40 pmDick Chenobyl must go.
How to sleep without a conscience:.............zzzzzzzzzzz see that was ez :-)
$$$$$ jump $$$$$$ jump $$$$$$ jump $$$$$$$$$$$$$ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.....
October 17th, 2006 at 11:41 pmI they ODed on oxycoton before the show.
October 18th, 2006 at 12:00 am"But, other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?"
October 18th, 2006 at 12:25 amI hate it when Cheney smiles...because I smile, and it makes me feel icky that I have something in common with that weirdo.
October 18th, 2006 at 12:28 amIt's almost like you have to live in an alternate reality, as if you were a servant in some eccentric king's court, to believe anything at all they say. And to top it off, their sheer incompetence in foreign affairs or geo-political strategies beggars the questoin if they have even a grade school knowledge of the world. They consistently live in a World War ll or modern action good-guys-destroy-all-the-bad-guys-with-tons-of-firepower movie fantasy world. ANd I am pretty con
October 18th, 2006 at 12:40 amI hate it when Cheney smiles…because I smile, and it makes me feel icky that I have something in common with that weirdo.
Comment by Yeti_Steve
I think his is more neural damage than delight.
October 18th, 2006 at 12:40 amThen they're the only ones who think that. Great front page of the Independent "Are these the only two men who think Iraq is going well?" with picture of Bush and Blair. Editorials from media in "ally" countries is resoundingly anti-Bush and anti-Iraq. The whole world is aligned against his policies... only one day's worth of editorials from canada, uk, australia, korea and even israel -- bush is misguided
http://www.miserywatch.com/2006/10/its_bad_out_the.html
October 18th, 2006 at 1:01 amHe is right. Overall things are going well. Americans are used to quick fixes, and this aint one of them. It will take time. But only if we can establish democracy in Iraq and Afghanestan, then therest of the middle east is soon to follow. History will judge Chaney differently than the mdia portrays him. He has been one o th greatest presidents we have had.
October 18th, 2006 at 1:19 amWhat do you expect from someone who gets his information from Faux News. Remember, when Dickhead is away he wants all the tv's in his hotel suite tuned to Faux News.
October 18th, 2006 at 1:27 amThat’s what Osama bin Laden says, and he’s right.
It wasn't too long ago that right wingers were accusing all war critics of being in bed with the terrorists because critics made points similar to Bin Laden's or something to that effect.
If memory serves, John Kerry was even accused (smeared) of expressing almost the same sentiments as Bin Laden
All the conservative visitors to this blog were relentless.
Well, VP Cheney didn't just express "almost the same sentiments" -he flat out said Bin Laden is right.
Well, trolls? Won't you chastise Cheney for agreeing with the enemy?
October 18th, 2006 at 1:28 am#156 (acanadian) said:
Name a single benefit to an average American. Just one.
We'll be paying for this war for decades (by we, I mean the middle class after the RICH F*CKS had their whores vote to cut their taxes). We'll be paying for the loss of moral high ground for decades. My stepson came home safely from two tours in Iraq and I can tell you that we paid every day in worry. Worry that a brainwashed idiot like yourself cannot fathom because you have no empathy.
Go crawl back under a rock. Maybe somebody you'll have a conscience or a brain.
October 18th, 2006 at 1:31 amCheney and Bush great president, like I said, today's so called cons, aka Bushbots, live in an aliternate reality of child like stories of good and evil,
October 18th, 2006 at 1:41 am[...] Conditions in Iraq are "doing remarkably well" the Vice-President of the United States said today. What else need be said? [...]
October 18th, 2006 at 1:51 ami got a bridge for sale in new york.
October 18th, 2006 at 1:52 amThis man is a psychopath. If Diebold doesn't screw us out of another election, I look forward to his impeachment.
October 18th, 2006 at 1:53 amI pray that all decent Americans are literate enough to see that Cheney is lying and talking to them like they are stupid!
October 18th, 2006 at 1:57 amWell James, who is it that we are supposed to have empathy for, the psyco Muslims who slaughter each other in the name of god or the American Army trying to keep them from slaughtering each other so that the RICH F*CKS can get even richer. Remember James, no one ordered your stepson to join the army, he volunteered. Could it be that he is the one who's brainwashed and that's what your so angry about. Iraq is a civil war. People will die in a civil war. They will, for the most part because they elect to be combatants in that war. Others who elect to participate might die as well, as they participate at their own risk. You should also remember that RICH F*CKS are rich because they deliver you goods and services which are unavailable to much of the world. Politicians lie, politicians are corrupt and politicians will act in their own interest. Just let go James, these people which go into public service uasually do so because they aren't clever enough to become RICH F*CKS by their own devices. Bush lied, Cheney lied, what did you expect, the truth. Just let it go James, you wil be happier for it.
October 18th, 2006 at 2:26 am"My center is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent. I shall attack." And the ever-honest, "A battle won is a battle which we will not acknowledge to be lost." Both from Ferdinand Foch, a French general from about a century ago. Cheney is clearly emulating Foch and I'm sure Foch is having a chuckle at Ney's Freedom Fries.
October 18th, 2006 at 2:36 amIn the immortal words of General Custer at the Little Big Horn, "Men, we're taking no prisoners today!"
October 18th, 2006 at 2:59 am[...] 3)Cheney: ‘General Overall Situation’ In Iraq Going ‘Remarkably Well’ (Audio) [...]
October 18th, 2006 at 3:03 amMs. Huffington,
I'm fechancellor (That's Iron Chancellor for those slow on the uptake) over that the RNC blog. You should keep your eyes and ears peeled for what Harry Reid will soon do about his ever deepening troubles in Las Vagas. You might also look at the NYT Causus Blog.
I don't mind you making fun of Mr. Cheney. This is America. I do mind you constantly running down the effort in Iraq. I know many, many troops who feel the same way. Our people in the field deserve better from dilliatants like you living the high life while they are fighting for your right to have another cocktail or whatever.
You are low on my list, but rest assured I'll get to this blog whorehouse of yours before to long.
By the by, I post at the NYT with people like Rue/Diva, Bullensign, Chuckamok, Rapublikan and frylock_gillis....you get the picture. These people are my friends, and I can more than hold my own with them.
....and we always horse laugh when some misguided lefty comes in our forum and drops Huffington Post links.
By the by, Harold Ford, Jr's Senate hopes took a turn for the very worse today. NYT Caucus Blog and other serious boot scooting I did today.
Again, attack Bush and Cheney all you want, but lay off the policy like you know a flacking thing about it. Give our men and women in Iraq a break for Christ's sake.
The next time I'm forced to come over here, it will be with HE and WP.
October 18th, 2006 at 3:13 amCheney,
October 18th, 2006 at 3:37 amYou and your lying, murderous band of pedophiles, cronies and scumbags will go down in history as the worst bunch of criminals to infiltrate the White House. The jig is up, moron.
Of course it's going remarkably well. The overseeing of the genocide of the Sunni people, with the eventual result of control of Iraq through the US Shia puppets, is what was always planned. The US cowers in it's concrete bunker city within a city, whilst they pile up profits from arms sales, and the Shia fight the battle for them. Then the US claim victory and clean up Iraq's oil. They never intend to leave. Cheney is happy with the bloodshed, and the US Government have requested that the new Iraqi 'Government' do nothing to stop the violence.
October 18th, 2006 at 3:39 am@ D W Moon
I THINK YOUR LITHIUM'S WEARING OFF
October 18th, 2006 at 3:47 amDO YOU THINK HIS LITHIUM'S WEARING OFF?
October 18th, 2006 at 3:52 am"Remarkably well"? That implies better than expectations. I feel like I'm living in Crazy World when I hear such things. Why?
Show me when, before OIF, Cheney and Bush came out and repeated "the stakes" as often as they are now? When did they ever say, "Fellow Americans, once we start, we will be committed to this thing forever, until it is finished. The finish line may be eight years or more and cost $900 billion by the time it is done. We have no room for error - once we break it, we own it."
Remarkable well. As if it were all simply unfolding according to plan. I guess that is why year after year Bush puts all the War expenditures and all the GOP gravy into a off-budget supplemental appropriations? It's not a supplemental war, though, it's all planned, except we don't pay ofr it that way. We just raid the Treasury for it all. It is remarkable.
I guess that now the Cheney is protected by the retroactive torture permissions bill, he thinks that the war is going along "remarkably". Who would have thought?
Anyone else tired of "trust me"? I say, Trust but Verify, Mr. Cheney.
We need to start demanding from the government the systematic information we need to formulate and independent and reasonably objective assessment of advance or retreat in Iraq, according to our strategy of CLEAR-HOLD-BUILD.
Why can't our journalists start asking when the Administration is going to start sharing the metrics for each phase of clear-hold-build, and stop looking for the next 'expert' opinon on the matter and stop looking for 'overall assessments' from discredited Administration officials?
Give us the information, Mr. Cheney, the Press will check up on it; and We the People will decide whether you are doing 'Remarkably Well'. That is the American Way.
October 18th, 2006 at 4:32 amDoing quite well indeed....
at spending money.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:26 am[...] Oh my GOD, get rid of these people!!! Rush Limbaugh interviewed Vice President Cheney on his show today. At one point, Limbaugh asked Cheney to respond to growing frustration over U.S. efforts in Iraq. [...]
October 18th, 2006 at 6:36 amIt's a toss-up as to who is the nuttiest...Cheney or Bush. Both are living in lala land.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:44 amMy first inclination was to send a one word comment: DICKHEAD. But the attitude - THE ATTITUDE - to Iraq by the true Axis of Evil, Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld, is far too serious for flippancy. When death and destruction is treated so caually, when policy is so wrongheaded, when casualties of war is no more than a ratings game for Limbaugh et al,we have a situation that can only be arrested by treating it with the gravity that every mutilated body demands.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:17 amThe island of Elba is reserved for men who have been in combat, not someone who has taken 5 deferments rather than serve. To send this jerk to the same island as Napoleon is an injustice to the Great ONE.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:36 amI suppose - Dick Cheney and Rush were discussing their military experiences in 'Nam and were further equating our overall successes in-country by comparing the "successes" in Iraq - oh wait. . . they never went to 'Nam due to several deferrments and a pilonidal cyst. How patriotic - how symbolic of this poor excuse of miliotary planning - how dare they? With over 58,000 names on the Wall - how many more have to die for the oil and Halliburton profits before we say enough? What is this country waiting for? It also would be ironic if Halliburton received word that they have the contract (no-bid) to plan, build and maintain the new Wall dedicated to our troops who died in Iraq and Afganistan.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:46 amOnce again I'm impressed by the level of name-calling in the comment section, but not the logic. Hope you folks have fun talking to each other. Just because you're having fun coming up with obscene nicknames and Halliburton jokes doesn't mean you're right. There are plenty of good arguments about this war. Why don't you use some of them?
October 18th, 2006 at 8:05 amElba is an Island paradise in the Mediterranean, it is far to nice for the Prince of Darkness. Something like Devil's Island or even Alcatraz would be far more appropriate!
October 18th, 2006 at 8:17 am10/17/2006 - Ten U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq today. A.P. News
October 18th, 2006 at 8:17 am10/17/2006 - "They're doing remarkably well." Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh show
i may be wrong, but it is starting to look like bush and his thugs do not know what they are doing in iraq.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:36 amCause and effect. Cheney's words and deeds = 911 complicity. Deep Throat said it, "You're missing the overall".
October 18th, 2006 at 8:38 am[...] Vice President Dick Cheney told Rush Limbaugh in an interview yesterday that, in general, things in Iraq are going “Remarkably well.” He said: [...]
October 18th, 2006 at 8:45 amAre You Kidding?!
October 18th, 2006 at 9:11 amBoth Cheney and Limbaugh ought to be ashamed of themselves. Lies, more lies and statistics even! Dick Cheney thinks he has historical perspective when in reality all he has is terminal tunnel vision with a 1920's style American ignorance. Limbaugh simply says and does that which keeps the checks rolling in, so he can off with his pills to Dominica or Cozumel to sample the local fauna. They're both pigs of the first order, and a less liberal person could, and probably would, charge them with treason - if their policies and attitudes don't get us all killed first. God help us!
Are You Kidding?!
October 18th, 2006 at 9:37 amBoth Cheney and Limbaugh ought to be ashamed of themselves. Lies, propaganda and statistics even! Dick Cheney thinks he has historical perspective when in reality all he has is terminal tunnel vision with a 1920's style American ignorance. Limbaugh the petty shill simply says and does that which keeps the checks rolling in, so he can off with his pills to Dominica or Guatemala to sample the local fauna. They're both pigs of the first order, and a less liberal person could, and probably would, charge them with treason - if their policies and attitudes don't get us all killed first. God help us!
Why, from HIS point of view, things ARE going remarkably well. He enjoys bloodbath and suffering, as long as the blood is not his, and he does not suffer himself. So from the point of view of an old, demented sadist - the things in Iraq are just peachy.
October 18th, 2006 at 9:41 amOther than that Mrs Lincoln, what did you think of the play?
October 18th, 2006 at 9:43 amCheney should keep off the sauce and I think there is far too much fat clogging Limbaugh's brain.
October 18th, 2006 at 9:46 amIf I recall correctly Cheney said the same thing after he shot his friend in the face.I wonder why Pus Bimbo left that out!
Tophers
PS I believe the 37% that still supports Bushboy need some electrotherapy,the kind they use in Guantanamo .
October 18th, 2006 at 9:56 amMr Moon (187) - Does this mean only intelligent people read NYT? Or, are only NYT readers intelligent? I like reading NYT, but I also realize that NOT everyone reading it, and certainly not everyone blogging there needs to be intelligent. Harry Reid is going to be in deep trouble. I hate to think of all the people that have died, or have had their lives altered so drastically by his financial dealings. Now, if we could only connect the dots from him to Monica. That would create a treasonable event! Stay delusional.
October 18th, 2006 at 9:58 amIs Mr. Cheney living in another planet?
October 18th, 2006 at 10:00 amThis is not a war this is a piracy raid with security provided by the U.S. Army.
As long as companies like Haliburton can continue to pump profits out of Iraq, the invasion is a howling success. The country and its eventual global allignment are irrelevant.
Our troops will be in Iraq as long as the war is profitable for those who are at no risk, which is to say as long as Bush & Co. remain in power, even if the only areas we control are the bases our forces occupy.
In the book "Terrible Swift Sword," the middle of three thick volumes about the Civil War, Bruce Catton wrote: "In any war, the men who die for patriotism die also for the enrichment of cold-eyed schemers who risk nothing, and every battlefield is made uglier by the greed of men who never fight."
For such men -- including those in the Bush administration most of who, including Bush and Cheney, even after it was proved a hopeless waste of lives supported the Vietnam war just so long as they did not have to fight and die in that war----- the Iraq war could not be going better.
October 18th, 2006 at 10:15 amHey, dave @ 199:
Good arguments for the war, against the war, or on both sides of the issue?
The folks who are talking to each other at this blog (and supposedly having a good time doing it) represent the overwhelming majority of Americans.
The "obscene nicknames and Halliburton jokes" reflect the disdain felt for the underlying policies, attitudes, and actions of the ruling party in our country. This is not about academic debate, the time for that is long passed - it's about confronting evil from within. All is fair in love and war.
Why don't YOU post some of the "good" arguments for this war. C'mon - you claim that there are "many" of them, you should be able to put some up for dissection.
Thought so.
October 18th, 2006 at 10:21 amRandom thoughts about this: So if it's so great over there, why doesn't he pick up and take him and his family there for extended holliday? PLEASE. And I'm talkin' WITHOUT THE KEVLAR! Drop him off on a corner for a sight seeing tour. WHAT AN IDIOT. How did we GET OURSELVES INTO THIS? Oxy party time for sure! I understand he travels with a full medical unit. What are they hitting him up with? THIS MAN IS A DANGER TO HUMANITY!
October 18th, 2006 at 10:27 amsiri
[...] Original post by Think Progress [...]
October 18th, 2006 at 10:36 amI can visualize all the ditto heads hunkering down around their little radios as Oxycotin addled Limpnuts and Cheney have their lovefest!
Limpnuts "Can you respond to the growing frustration of the U.S. in Iraq?"
Cheney (sipping from his crystal full of Pinch Haig and Haig) "Rush If you look at the general overall situation, they’re doing remarkably well. "
Dittoheads..."Yipee ...God Bless Rush and his majesty Cheney....Things are going swimmingly....See Marge I told you, our fearless leader, and Rush are taking care of everything...and, by the way make sure little Johnny doesn't go anywhere near the army recruitment center."
October 18th, 2006 at 11:10 amlimpdick,carlson,beck,o'blowme,cheney,bush,rice are all synanoms for delusional.not sure why anybody listens to this hallucinating bunch of fecal matter.i'm quite sure they're in there "last throes".what a bunch of poopstains.
October 18th, 2006 at 11:13 amOnly 10 of our troops killed in Iraq today! Things are really going remarkably well!
October 18th, 2006 at 11:15 amwell guys and gals, god told bush to invade iraq, could god have been wrong or was bush lying.
October 18th, 2006 at 11:42 amcheney and bush are merely following gods request, how can we argue with this, these men are on a holy crusade, a noble cause. these 2 must view the world differently from we lowly humans, their vision is one of freedom and democracy, and they will deliver, the hell with anyone who dare defy them.
Cheney has had one too many strokes and heart attacks... his mind is obviously messed up and he is delusional... Has anyone checked to see if he is drooling?
October 18th, 2006 at 11:45 amActually, he's right. Things are going remarkably well in Iraq provding you own Halliburton options or bought oil futures when the war started.
2 things I bet Dick and his loved ones have covered.
October 18th, 2006 at 11:56 am"If 9/11 changed everything, how come baseball players are still allowed to fly airplanes around Manhattan? I'm sure you've heard about this story. A Yankees pitcher flew an airplane into a fifty-story building on the East side. At first no one knew whether it was an accident or a terrorist attack, so Bush had no idea how long to sit there and do nothing." --Bill Maher
October 18th, 2006 at 11:56 amHe must be referring to Halliburton.
October 18th, 2006 at 12:51 pmUnlike most of the hining sniveling liberals posting here, i spent a year IN Iraq, and whether you want to hear it or not, the VP is right. The media is lying to you all so bad about what goes on there.
Oh and BTW, we WERE and ARE being gretted as liberators. But you won't see it on CNN
October 18th, 2006 at 1:03 pmThat Dick Cheney is a flaming ass hole ! How can he boldly go on t.v. and say things are rosy and getting better, when we loose 10 soldiers in one day the day before in a bloody IED mess. Hes about in touch with whats going on like he shoots a gun, right in the face of a good friend.
If this country doesn't start impeachment on this whole administration, we will be running from the mushroom clouds like Bush lied to us in his state of the union address for real. Jack Kennedy got shot riding in his limo, why can't someone get rid of Kim Jon Ilg of Korea, hes a madman along with Irans premier. In fact all the nuts are coming out of the woodwork and we just sit with our fingers up our noses doing nothing. I hope all the Diebold machines are either destroyed and everyone has to use paper ballots or the repubs will steal another election.
October 18th, 2006 at 1:25 pmIf Iraq is going "remarkably well", then what exactly were they actually expecting; something much worse? Perhaps if one steps back and looks at the outcome, and the actions (or lack of them) that got us here, one can surmize the real reason for the war, and why things are the way they are: i.e. the instability and insurrection have taken about 2 million barrels per day of Iraqi oil off the market, thereby driving up the price and giving Cheney's oil buddies (and no doubt his own portfolio) a huge bonaza.
October 18th, 2006 at 1:25 pmThe best way to fight Cheney-think is to elect Democrats and progressives to the congress. Democrats do best at the polls when there is a large voter turnout. It is up to all of us to volunteer in the short time before the elections to do all that we can to create a very large voter turnout. The time for cutting bait is over. It's time to fish!
October 18th, 2006 at 1:31 pmALL of the new NAZI war criminals running america should be publicly executed,just like the first group of Nazi war criminals. INTERNATIONAL law will hunt these crazy pricks down and drag them to the HAGUE and prosecute them,and then EXECUTE these maniacs ASAP before they kill more innocent civilians.This is INTERNATIONAL LAW not ignorant american congress fake law that is not going to protect ANY of these assholes from facing CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY charges.KARMA will come to america and drag them to the HAGUE to face reality.
October 18th, 2006 at 1:39 pmAnd don't forget, the insurgency was in its "last throes" a year ago, according to Cheney. So the U.S. has been keeping the insurgents in their last throes for over a year, now. That's how remarkably well things are going.
October 18th, 2006 at 1:52 pmThe insurgency is in its last throes, if you will.
October 18th, 2006 at 2:19 pm[...] read more | digg story [link] [...]
October 18th, 2006 at 2:25 pm[...] This is an election post — it comes on a day when even the Texans have recognized that the Pub’s are all hat and no cattle … when Uncle Dick’s credibility has gone from dark and creepy to drooling and senile by declaring the situation in Iraq as going “remarkably well” … when Rick Santorum is defending his lock-step on regime change by telling us that the clash in Iraq is akin to “Lord of the Rings” [see — I TOLD ya Dubby had the ring!] And the stock market has topped out today … which only means, to the Average Joe Six-Pack, that the rich are getting richer as the middle-class continues to spiral down. [...]
October 18th, 2006 at 2:28 pmOh, yeah; things are going remarkably well in Iraq-for veep "Halliburton" cheney and all the other war profiteers. Mo' money, mo' money, mo' money!
October 18th, 2006 at 2:47 pmHe hasn't been having heart attacks, he's been having strokes which have affected his mind.
October 18th, 2006 at 2:49 pmI cannot stand to even look at their evil faces.... I wonder if all their "pulchritude" has ever broken any mirrors?! They are both carriers of septicemic pathogens.
October 18th, 2006 at 3:00 pmAND #225, learn how to spell before you spew your lies.
Yes an up side is that from Cheney own mouth comes the proof that the Bush administration is reality challenged (and mental) and in well over their heads?
Supporting the Cheney position shows the Rushite audience what a complete lack of capacity for a reliable analysis of critical issue is a hallmark of the Limpbaaa’s approach to disinformation broadcasting!!
The IRAQ war is lost. Fact IRAQ is becoming a bigger and more deadly mass by the hour, with no solutions coming in any conceivable near term and on good way out long term.
IT will soon be called the
"BUSHite Plan" for "TEARout And REDPLOY" (somewhere south of Atlanta??)
Only the Hard-Core addicts of the Limpbaaaaian Kool-Aid can listen to the Limpbaaaian assault on competent reasoning and sensibilities and not be deeply offended.
October 18th, 2006 at 3:10 pmThis is exactly what they want in Iraq-- total chaos and anarchy. The
worse the situation is, the better for them. Dick(less) Cheney must
have been popping pills with (C)Rush Limppaw(Limbaugh, he's a fag
as well).
Bush and his cabal of criminals will NEVER stop this madness until we
the people wake from our sleep and expose these frauds for what they are doing and what they've done.
They are using fear to scare we the people and relinquish the power
we have and allow government to become more powerful. Our rights
and liberties and freedoms are being taken from us with this phony
"war on terror", and we're letting them do it, why?
Stop believing what the government and the politicians are telling us.
They only care about their own families and the people around them.
The government is creating the terror here and abroad, and blaming
it on Arabs, Muslims, and other minorities.
Please believe me when I say, that the "real government", or better
yet, the ruler(s) of the world, are the FED and the Bankers, those here
and abroad. They command the governments of the world to carry out
their agendas, no matter who dies or are affected by them.
We will be in frequent and illegal wars, fought for no other reasons
but for THEM to aquire more money, power, and territory for their
diabolical rule. If we don't stop THEM, the nation and the world as we
know it will be gone, and our way of life will be totally controlled by
THEM, not us. And by the way, we're almost there already.
The one thing that NEEDS to be done is the FED needs to be abolished
October 18th, 2006 at 3:22 pmby we the people. Find out the truth about what the FED really is and
what it does. You will not believe what you read, but it is all true. Type
this in your browser, then click go: The Federal Reserve is PRIVATELY
OWNED. Type it just as it's shown.
There are plenty of good arguments about this war. Why don’t you use some of them?
Comment by dave — #199
No dave,
Why don't you take your dumb ass to Baghdad...
...and send us some pictures of those "good arguments" back...
...you inbred Bushites are perfect fertilizer material...
October 18th, 2006 at 3:24 pmyou angry people are funny.
October 18th, 2006 at 3:38 pm[...] I saw THIS on Think Progress. I think that the whole Bush regime is seeing the Iraq war through rose coloured glasses. It is amazing what they well say just to convince one more person for their own personal gain. I wish for once that they would pay attention to the facts. [...]
October 18th, 2006 at 4:20 pmSure! The rich bankers, oil men, and arms maufacturers, all stand to gain from ANY war! And just like in years past when the whites moved west, they killed Native Americans and stole their land. The neocons of today are the descendants of these murderers of the Native Americans, and they are still going down the same path, and why not? This strategy has always worked well for them. Find a poor territory/piece of land/country with brown-skinned people who cannot defend themselves, at least not very well, and then move in and take over by whatever means necessary. It''s a sure fire money maker! Only now, these darned Iraq terrorist/Islamo-facists are fighting back! How DARE they?! Just lay down and die, you evil pagans, the Crusade is here! It's the same old story all over again. You can make any argument you like, but the U.S. elite have always done this and always will. The Native Americans were "bloodthirsty savages", the Iraqis are "terrorists" and "Islamo-fascists". You see, these neocon-industrialist-oilmen-bankers don't like to work for their money, they want it for FREE, and they have the power, political and otherwise, to go wherever and take whatever they want whenever they want, as long as there's nobody powerful enough to stop them when they get there. The fact that many people die (like 700,000 or so) doesn't faze them a bit, after all, it's "only business". Yeah, the business of death...
October 18th, 2006 at 4:50 pm#239 And oh yes, these neocons are also part of, or are allied with, the Fed who mints U.S. currency for nothing then sells it back to the people of the United States with interest to boot! Wait, isn't that illegal? Isn't this why we fought the Revolutionary War? Aren't these english bankers the same enemies we fought in the Revolutionary War? Why, I believe so! Now what do we "free" people of the USA intend do about this travesty?
October 18th, 2006 at 5:21 pmIt is all part of the plan to make Iraq an American possession. There will always be troops there. It will become another Guam or Puerto Rico.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:44 pmIraqi's will be American citizens. There is no escaping this. Also, the Baker Commission's plans will never resolve the problem, nor will the 2008 elections. Iraq is our 51st state. Get used to it.
Either Cheney's heart meds have pitted his brain or he's been inhaling gas fumes. We just learned that ten Army soldiers and one marine were killed in a single day. It is quite logical that ALL the various players in Iraq will try very hard to KILL or MAIM as many Americans in Iraq AND Afghanistan as they can. Why would they NOT? They understand, at least at the higher levels of leadership, that Bush's star has become quite tarnished. They don't necessarily know that the American people can hang tough if they need to, and have the proper incentives.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:48 pmBut, the various factions fighting us in Iraq know, too, that no additional American troops are likely if Bush loses the election. They wonder whether any one else, in a new Congress, will demand troop deployments above the current levels. So, why not try and kill Americans? A LOT of Americans?
Read Vali Nazr's "The Shia Revival," or "In The Shadow of Hizbullah," and you can understand that a NEW dynamic is occurring. Open warfare between Sunnis and Shias on behalf of the Sunnis and Shia worlds of Islam. The Sunnis have essentially dominated the first 1000 years of Islam, much as the Catholic Church did, until Luther Split. The Luther Split, of course, ignited massive sectarian violence and wars. Nazr's book states clearly that the Sunnis, seeing their Sunnis brethern in Iraq being marginalized, will NOT allow them to be pushed out of Iraq.
On the other hand, the Shia are feeling powerful new growth. They, too, are not about to step back from their controi of Iraq. They've waited a thousand years and that is one more reason Iran wants a nuke. However, if the Shia want to step up violence across the region, to further weaken the U.S., they will. And, they will fight like hell in Iraq, to either drive out the minority Sunnis, or, kill as many as they can.
Americans, inside Iraq, have been drawn into the cities again. Wherever these ten soldiers were killed, that's just the start, if they find themselves surrounded by Sunnis, Shia, al-Qaedists, jihadis, etc. We haven't really seen the worst of that scenario ... but it is likely we'll see the beginning of that scenario before November 7.
The Iraqui Information Minister is alive and well and dressed in a Cheney suit.............
October 18th, 2006 at 6:11 pmThe Iraqui Information Minister is alive and well and dressed in a Cheney costume.......
October 18th, 2006 at 6:13 pm#241, sure we are angry, i guess you like bush ramming his crap up your butt.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:07 pmI'd say Cheney and the neo-fascist rats who have crawled from the sewers of the American political, business, religious, and media communities know the level of integrity possessed by their constituents very well.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:25 pm[...] Oh good God! [...]
October 18th, 2006 at 9:59 pmCheney will try and link Iraq with OBL until the day he dies
He may even try to bend satan's ear with that bullshit too...
Nobody should underestimate the extent to which we’re engaged there with this sort of, at present, the “major front†of the war on terror. That’s what Osama bin Laden says, and he’s right
October 18th, 2006 at 10:12 pmAll I can say is this guy and this administration are nuts! I'm not sure how much more I can take. LET'S vote them ALL OUT OF OFFICE!!!!
October 18th, 2006 at 11:03 pmI just can't believe there are 253 adults that care. I challenge anyone of you to make a verifiable claim that their life is changed in any way by this so called "war". I also challenge anyone of you to name an American politician, Republican or Democrat that doesn't lie most of the time. Jr High School students, stoners, skateboarders and family and friends of obvious victims are excepted from the challenge.
October 18th, 2006 at 11:27 pmre: things going remarkably well...cheney may need to follow up with his cardiologist and get his blood thinner adjusted-i think he's throwing little clots to his brain-he's got to be to make such an asinine comment in public.
October 19th, 2006 at 12:40 amThe guys briefs could be on fire and he would offer the same response just to give the right spin.
Sure everything in Iraq is peachy when your Halliburton stock options make you a few million in extra spending money.
Blood money, every last cent of it, and pilfered from taxpayers like you and me.
October 19th, 2006 at 1:04 amAs a former infantry soldier who served in Iraq for 10 months before being fortunate enough to be able to leave, I believe I have a somewhat unique perspective on Iraq, our military, and our "government".
And before any of you moronic death loving "Christian" fascists out there attack my critical viewpoints, let me just say that not only do I not give a F*%#K what you militaristic idiots think, I've more than EARNED the right to say what I am about to sting your pathetic eyes with.
Iraq was a lost cause from the beginning. It amazed me at the time that our ruling junta in D.C. thought victory was possible. I am overwelmed at the ignorance of the people who govern us. Any people who have not been totally DEFEATED on the battlefield in mass (like Nazi Germany) will never accept occupation by a foreign army...period. Let alone occupation of an Islamic country by a "Christian" army of largely immoral mercenaries (I joined for the money Sarge!) who have been conditoned by a lifetime of insidious propaganda to believe that "America" is blessed by god and everyone else is scum and should just get out of the way or die. I saw some in our military who had good faith and tried to do what was right (whatever that is) but they were never an overwhelming majority.
The majority revelled in killing. The majority were at the very least complacent in the hourly indignities that are still being committed in our name in Iraq (not to mention worse crimes).
Indignities like the verbal insults of "Haji" and worse that are so common. Indignities like being told to "shut the F up!" in their own homes and country. Daily insults and infringements of a people's basic rights to dignity have a way of really winning their hearts and minds. So does killing innocent people and then not even acknowledging it. My unit did that at least once. The soldiers in my unit that were still somewhat guiltless felt shame at that, not that we could do much. The army says "hush hush" you know.
Iraqis were wrongly beaten and were often victims of theft carried out by our "noble troops". Nothing was done.
We never raided a home or detained anyone who was part of the insurgency.
Occupation is an ugly thing made worse by a desensetized, culturally ignorant (and undemocratic) army who has had to deal with a growing and unidentifiable popular insurgency.
Sure the senior officers and NCOs in my unit often believed in what we were doing (at least thats what they told us) but the morale for the rest of us was very shaky and oftentimes miserable. Drinking and illegal drugs were common and often overlooked or dealt with quietly. Weapons were bought on the black market and clandestinely shipped home for profit (look for these to turn up at your local school eventually). Censorship was common and consisted of things like only allowing Fox News to be viewed in mess halls and rec centers. Many NCOs I knew seemed addicted to the Christian fundi "Left Behind" novels that celebrate an armageddon that they themselves felt they were helping to fulfill. More soldiers than I can count insisted privately that they never wanted to return to Iraq. And all of this occurred in 2003!
This tragedy as I saw it at the time and continue to insist is unsolvable until we as a nation realize we are our own worst enemy.
This is an immoral war ordered by greedy war profiteers and those who believe in American Empire. It is carried out by a bureaucratic authoritarian army of would-be social climbers who have no idea about Islamic history and culture (not to mention their own). The fault lies with our militaristic, superstitious and uneducated society that believes it is the "salt of the Earth". No sense of history. No sense of humanity. Profit before people. Amerika first, last and always.
October 19th, 2006 at 5:40 amYes Mr. Cheney, everything is going well in Iraq and you can be confident too that you and Mr. Bush (and all your lackey wannabe followers) will be "raptured" in the forthcoming apocalapse you have set into motion. God truly help us!
Well DICK, what are your thoughts on GOP election prospects?
October 19th, 2006 at 7:16 am“If you look at the general overall situation, they’re doing remarkably well.†Now that we know what that means...
My North American ancestry dates back to the 16th century and I wouldn't doubt that somewhere along the line someone in my family did something shameful. The shame that the Bush administration (especially Cheney and Rumsfeld) has brought upon our society by their deeds and, although I don't profess to be able to read their minds, their thoughts, certainly makes 500 years of my family's history pale in the shame department. If there is a God, then Satan can't be close behind. If Satan is alive and well, then he not only exists in Iraq, Iran, North Korea, etc, but has become well established in our own society. Gays and abortionists just may be standing well behind these guys when judged by God. Although I'm not sure God will have time to even look at gays and abortionists. His time (read infinity) will be taken up by the list of sins of this administration.
October 19th, 2006 at 8:49 am"THE ILLUSIONS OF GEORGE W. BUSH"
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Why don't those two fools and the 30% or so who still think like they do, just invade a little country, say Cuba where the people are already accustomed to dictatorships and leave the rest of us alone to reconstruct the democracy left in tatters by this bunch of Bushies. Why do they hate our freedom!!!
October 19th, 2006 at 12:09 pmYeah. And this guy is a heartbeat from being President. Why hasn't the media picked up on this? Because they are Corporate America. They eat up this stuff. Cheney has totally unprecidented power and we hardly even heard a blip about it until just this year. Can anyone imagine if Al Gore had tried any of this stuff when he was in office? And they blasted Tipper for even having an opinion on anything. Do you think Gore had legions of advisors coming and going out of his office? Cheney is the first unelected President of the United States, God help us.
October 19th, 2006 at 2:32 pm[...] Dick Cheney says, ‘General Overall Situation’ In Iraq Is Going ‘Remarkably Well’ Rush Limbaugh interviewed Vice President Cheney on his show today. At one point, Limbaugh asked Cheney to respond to growing frustration over U.S. efforts in Iraq. Cheney acknowledged there is a “natural level of concern out there†because fighting didn’t end “instantaneously.†(Next month, the war will have lasted longer than U.S. fighting in World War II.) Cheney then pointed to various news items to paint a positive picture of conditions in Iraq and concluded, “If you look at the general overall situation, they’re doing remarkably well.†[...]
October 19th, 2006 at 9:54 pmCheney is as demented as GW.
October 20th, 2006 at 3:22 amIn response to #225 - I spent fifteen months in Iraq. . . until my humvee got hit and I lost one KIA and two WIA. I do not know where you were hunkered down but the so called "liberal" press can not even begin to tell the horrors of Iraq. The VP is a lying fool and his pro-war friends are war profiteers . As for the greeters bearing gifts to us liberators - the gifts they brought were called IEDs.
Anybody know how to declare a victory on the "war-on-terror"? We are fighting an ideology - a form of hatred that can never be won with a bullet of bomb. Can we change how people think, if so why has antisemitism been around for over a thousand years; why are individuals calling those people against this war "liberals" another label, another form of ideology. How can we ever hope to try to defeat an idea that says it is okay to kill and die for God.
I stand by what I said in #198.
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:15 amSemper Fi
[...] Iraq going badly? No it's not. [...]
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