Matt Drudge’s Efforts To Cast Doubt on Global Warming Reaches New Level of Desperation
Matt Drudge’s Efforts To Cast Doubt on Global Warming Reaches New Level of Desperation
Global warming is real. Matt Drudge, “the Walter Cronkite of his era,” is working overtime to convince people it isn’t happening. Here’s what he put up on the Drudge Report today:
First, this is totally irrelevant. Global warming does not mean there is never going to be a cold day or a cold month somewhere on the globe. Globally, September 2006 was the 4th warmest on record.
Second, Drudge leaves out this crucial fact from the NOAA report he links to:
The January-September 2006 combined temperature is warmest on record. The previous record warm January-September happened in 2000.
In other words, according to the NOAA report Drudge cites, there has never been a warmer year in the United States so far than 2006. Amazingly, Drudge is seizing on this report to suggest that global warming isn’t real.
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Drudge has NO reason to tell the truth, and EVERY reason to lie.
Who's surprised?
October 17th, 2006 at 5:59 pmNutshell. Either the species rises to the challenge and is intelligent enough to save itself....or it is not. End of story.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:02 pmDrudge is not intelligent enough.
Puke.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:05 pmWhy is it more important to tow the corporation-funded Republican party line than it is to protect our planet?
October 17th, 2006 at 6:08 pmWhat planet does he live on. He will be affected as much as anyone else by global warming, unless he has a secret spaceship to escape to another world. Oh wait! Republicans create their own reality , I forgot.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:10 pmBurn Baby Burn! Dico Inferno!
October 17th, 2006 at 6:13 pmFudgereport.com is more reliable.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:14 pmOooops. That's fudgereport.net.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:15 pmMatt Drudge would not know the truth, even if it fell on his pointy lil head.
This guy has been caught in more lies than George Bush, and that's his only real accomplishment in life.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:19 pmIf there's anything that's a hoax it's Matt Drudge.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:25 pmDrudge is part of the pink republican cabal isn't he? He's part of th problem.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:26 pmMatt Drudge needs to step the hell outside and feel the frickin' heat. We don't even get friggin' winters in California anymore.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:26 pmPoor Drudge. He's gay, closeted and a Republican, and I think the Mark Foley thing has really left him unhinged because here's this guy he has so much in common with, and he's taking down the entire house leadership.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:27 pmWe seriously need a different name for this phenomenon, other than global warming. Seriously. I mean this is the entire hangup that the ignorant right-wing 30 has. they hear global warming and think that it means every single day should be warmer than the last. Well, that isn't how weather works.
Take a look at the study that says snowfall in parts of the arctic is increasing? It's increasing becuase the warming kof the oceans is pushing what would normally be coastal weather in towards the mainland.
Take a look at the increase in rainfall and things like hurricanes. The right would say that because there is more storms and water in certain areas there must not be any "global warming." When the truth is that oceans changing temperature not only feed hurricanes and make them more common, but also means more rain. I live in Canada and every year it seems BC gets warmer and warmer winters and more and more rain. I wouldn't call it "warming" per se, but it is certianly abnormal.
Meanwhile, I personally live on the Prairies, and although Summers seem to get warmer lately, we've also been seeing flooding in the spring as opposed to the more typical dry but moderate weather. We still get winters that are inhumanely cold, but short/mild winters are becoming more and more common.
Global warming isn't just about Warm weather, although that is the long-term trend. In the short term, global warming is about a disruption in what used to be more reliable weather patterns. Expect more wild weather abnormality as this progresses.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:29 pmDrudge the sludge rides again > lol.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:29 pmWhat planet does he live on.
Comment by Hardy+Haberman — October 17, 2006 @ 6:10 pm
The same planet as Paul.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:32 pmAlso, the US does not comprise the globe.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:34 pmIt's called "global" not "US" warming.
We seriously need a different name for this phenomenon, other than global warming.
Comment by Rosencrantz — October 17, 2006 @ 6:29 pm
I feel the same way, and sometimes refer to it as "global climate disruption", although the way things are headed now, it won't be long before "global climate catastrophe" fits the situation.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:34 pmHowza bout the slow disintegration of the world as we know it.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:41 pmIf truth be told, The planet is fine, will be fine and that is a fact. What people do not seem to understand is that the planet has cycles, we are parasites in one of those cycles. The planet does not care if we are here or not. So what folks need to understand it is not the planet that is screwed. We are!!! LOL
October 17th, 2006 at 6:44 pmSooner or later the planet will belch, force all into the dark ages and eventually we will be gone an the planet will be fine.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:48 pmIt's time to stop debating with these jerks and move on with the necessary plans for survival. The world is facing serious catastrophic consequences that will not be solved by getting angry, name calling, refuting lies with facts - only ACTION - starting NOW as in today with education is going to give us a chance along with the current generation in school to save this earth from a nightmarish world that we can hardly imagine.
I am reading a book by Pulitzer Prize Nominee - James Martin called THE MEANING OF THE 21st CENTURY: A Vital Blueprint for Ensuring Our Future (author of THE WIRED SOCIETY - from the 70's).
If you care about your family and your life, get a copy of this book. If you only want revenge against asses like Drudge and his ilk, do something they are not - talk is cheap, action is answer and will make all people like him that believe this b.s. irrelevant in 15 - 20 years.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:50 pmStu, I think you have a point there. Let's give the cockroaches a chance to rule the earth.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:51 pmFirst it was "nuclear winter", now "global warming." You liberals and your hysteria crack me up!!
Keep up the good work fighting completely irrelevant issues like decimal point increases in the globe's temperature. What is the threat of the rise of IslamoNazism when icebergs are melting... AHHH!!
Haha.
=)
October 17th, 2006 at 6:53 pmIf we called global warming "gay marriage" then Republicans would make it their #1 priority.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:53 pmSo, get out those gas grills, fire up those lawn mowers, buy those SUV's, dig for coal, drill for oil, and live it up while you are here! Its only a blip on the radar of time and you might as well enjoy the ride!!! In the scheme of things, the planet won't even remember us long before the sun engulfs it as a red giant.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:53 pmMark, welcome friend.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:55 pmReal Scientist,
Cockroaches are currently running, and ruining the earth.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:55 pmStu is right. We may as well join Republicans in stealing the future from our children and live it up while we can.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:56 pmMark, I was just about to fire up my Turbo 2000 gas grill and add to the misery of the planet. Want a bratwurst?
October 17th, 2006 at 6:56 pmMark+Glense,
1000's of dentists say its good to brush your teeth.
Now we have 1000's of scientists saying we have a problem.
Are you toothless?
October 17th, 2006 at 6:57 pmWhy do we even need science. We've got Mark and Stu for answers!
October 17th, 2006 at 6:58 pmStu, pleasure to meet you, sir. I would love one.
October 17th, 2006 at 6:58 pmTooth decay= Planet disintegration, now thats a stretch!
October 17th, 2006 at 6:59 pmHe's definately not planetless!!!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:00 pmHey Stu, take that bratwurst and stuff it where the sun don't shine, ok?
October 17th, 2006 at 7:00 pmFirst it was “nuclear winterâ€, now “global warming.†You liberals and your hysteria crack me up!!
Comment by Mark+Glesne — October 17, 2006 @ 6:53 pm
I don't understand your point (nor do you, I suspect). Nuclear winter was a speculative theory forwarded about 30 years ago that a massive nuclear war would fling so much debris into the atmosphere thereby blocking sunlight that the earth's temperarture would plummet for a long period of time. Really, on a basic level the theory is consistent with global warming: if we massively perturb the atmosphere, climate is likely to change.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:01 pmLook at that, not even ten posts here and already being told to stuff items were the sun is not. Did not take long for the angry liberal to show true colors?
October 17th, 2006 at 7:02 pmSludge in, Sludge out.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:03 pmBratwurst is ready, now, where did I put my aerosal injected cheesewiz.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:04 pmStu, I hear that if you put a fully loaded gun in your mouth and pull the trigger nothing will happen...........try it .........either way it goes I'd be right.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:04 pmStu, you aren't a global warming denialist, are you? Because if you are I will have to start poking you with my pointy stick.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:05 pmStu, I'll take a bratwurst if you have any extra.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:07 pmStu, the point is, you've got nothing to contribute here. Nothing. Why do you even waste your and our time with your inane, absurd, bs? Do you enjoy being annoying? Do you need attention? You're just a pathetic troll with nothing to say.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:08 pmWe should stop calling global warming, and start calling it atmostphere CO2 buildup. Like the article says, tempurature is irrelavant, its all about CO2 build up!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:08 pmNo scientist, just one of those middle of the road moderates that does believe that it is as bad as Chicken little is proclaiming.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:09 pmStu(pid)
Yes planet disintigration, rising water levels = less land. Simple, even for simple minded folks like you.
My point is when 1000's of experts in their feild tell you something, don't you think you should listen? And when pretty much the only people fighting them are the same who told us cigarettes are good for us, paid for by the oil company money, who you gonna believe.
If you doubt science so much, why not put your computer back in the box, turn off the power to your house, and no longer enjoy all the benefits brought to man by science.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:09 pmStu: "Bratwurst is ready, now, where did I put my aerosal injected cheesewiz."
Stupid.... and damn proud of it!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:11 pmMFV,
October 17th, 2006 at 7:13 pmThere are plenty of experts that say it is not as your scientist say it is. Why do you follow them blindly believing that we are headed for catastrophe?
what
October 17th, 2006 at 7:17 pmStu: "There are plenty of experts that say it is not as your scientist say it is."
Just for your information, there are no peer-reviewed scientific papers which deny global warming. There are no peer-reviewed scientific papers that I know of that even deny that man has a huge role in global warming.
Stu, keep in mind that for years, the tobacco industry paid "scientists" to say there was no link between tobacco and cancer. This went on for decades phony, industry-financed labs like "The Tobacco Institute."
October 17th, 2006 at 7:19 pmStu, Mark,
I have property on Cape Cod, MA.
Great vacation spot!
Close to the beaches, all the bells and whistles.
Sell it to either one of you. *reasonable price*
I'm betting neither one of you would actually go for it.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:20 pmOf course not. I don't dump this place in a couple of years and I'm screwed.
Put your money where your mouth is.
I have to read Drudge now and then just to see what cockamamie story he has posted.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:20 pmThis is one of those days.
He needs to justify his wrongheaded arguments, so he takes one day and extrapolates from that to the all encompassing.
Something like OLiely claiming that for one day the poverty level under Clinton was higher than under Bush, neglecting to mention that Clinton's was going down and Bush's was going up and Drudge focused on the period when the two approached the crossing.
Stu and Mark -- aren't you two just so comical. It's so fun to be smug Republicans and make fun of caring about the planet, and hoping to ensure there is a planet for our children to live happy lives on. Let's all laugh at your lame attempts at humor because it's just so damned funny to see the earth die because it was just so damned important to be George Bush loving Republicans first and human beings last. Gosh, I just don't know when I've laughed so much. You two are regular comedians.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:21 pmThe sky is falling, the sky is falling!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:21 pm"I don’t understand your point..."
Comment by RealScientist
My point was simple; liberals are prone to hysteria and the current "global warming" exaggeration is another example. Just as liberals believed Reagan's arms race would lead to a nuclear winter (proven wrong by history), so will you be proven wrong when generations to come look back and laugh at the hysterical claims of "global warming".
Stu -
You left your cheesewiz in the Hummer.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:21 pmLet me explain something about global warming denialism. Many of the people claiming that global warming isn't real, or that there is still a debate in the scientific community about whether it is real, actually know that it is real. I am talking about the fossil fuel industry and their hired guns at the American Petroleum Institute, the George C. Marshall Institute, and other assorted lobbyist-liars like Steven Milloy at the dreaded junkscience.com web site. So why do they deny it is real? Why do they try to sow seeds of doubt about it and confuse and mislead the public? There are two key ingredients to the professional global warming denialist. The first is a sense of elitism. They do not believe that the public can be trusted to make wise public policy decisions, and that only they and their like-minded elites should be entrusted to do so. The second ingredient is a deeply held ideological belief that so-called free markets and capitalism are an infinitely wise mechanism for resolving all problems. They have decided that any problems caused by global warming will be quickly resolved by miraculous innovation, just so long as we allow the imaginary free markets to operate.
I think it is very interesting that the first thing out of noted global warming skeptic John Christy's mouth when he finally admitted that global warming is real is that we shouldn't "overreact", and that humans would be able to adapt. It really shows the depth of his intellectual corruption, the way he immediately segued from an ill-judged and stubbornly-held scientific opinion to a bold policy opinion. Richard Lindzen has done exactly the same thing.
I believe that some of the global warming denialists posting here are actually paid shills working an astroturf campaign funded by the fossil fuels industry and its libertarian allies. But others are simply the clowns and fools who have bought into the lies.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:22 pmStu (see #52),
Did some liberal just offer us property? My word, their hysteria about global warming is worse than I could have ever imagined!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:23 pmI have a confession. I'm sitting in front of my computer wearing nothing more than my daughters panties.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:24 pmThere are plenty of experts that say it is not as your scientist say it is.
Comment by Stu+Pidaso — October 17, 2006 @ 7:13 pm
Stu, start naming them or shut up.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:24 pmMake me an offer, then.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:24 pmStu:
I don't follow them blindly, firstly even if ALL of what they say doesn't happen, the world will be a better place the more green we become. With the world population exploding an an astounding rate, the problem of pollution will only get worse.
If you think we're not doing anything to our air, water, and soil, here's your own scientific test you can perform for me.
Start car, pull into garage, close doors, and let it your car run for a few while you hang out and wash the windows, and vacuum the car. If you have family that believes like you have them help, wash the entire car.
Get back to me soon with your report k?
October 17th, 2006 at 7:24 pmNoMore Rep Trash - I think Stu already told us "it's not the planet thats in trouble, we are". I think that is what Stu said. Anyway, the Earth is not going to die, stop using such demonstrative language, your scareing the kids.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:25 pmMatt Drudge is a "gossip" columnist for crissakes! Why in the world would anybody take what he says seriously? He doesn't think he is Walter Cronkite! He thinks he is Walter Winchell, another asshole! The more you counter him the more he answers you and you answ..... You can get more science from the "Globe."
October 17th, 2006 at 7:26 pmStu, I have a date with my sister last night. Got any advice on how I can score?
October 17th, 2006 at 7:26 pmBy the way, Stu and Mark, you come here making jokes and essentially trying to disturb the conversation, and then you get upset when people tell you to f off? In your sad world liberals, progressives, human beings are supposed to graciously welcome you into their world when you enter it spewing garbage? The problem is, in my opinion, that liberals/progressives have been entirely too nice to scum like you. We need not tolerate your ilk anymore. We also need not be nice to you. You don't deserve courtesy or respect because you are pigs. So expect to be treated like the pigs you are and get over it. You ask for it, and you'll get it, in spades.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:26 pmMy point was simple; liberals are prone to hysteria and the current “global warming†exaggeration is another example. Just as liberals believed Reagan’s arms race would lead to a nuclear winter (proven wrong by history), so will you be proven wrong when generations to come look back and laugh at the hysterical claims of “global warmingâ€.
Comment by Mark+Glesne — October 17, 2006 @ 7:21 pm
Mark, you ignorant fool, no one ever said the arms race would lead to nuclear winter. They said that massive nuclear war would lead to nuclear winter.
What a pathetic excuse for an argument!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:26 pm#57 -- Great post, Scientist.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:27 pm> We seriously need a different name for this phenomenon, other than global warming.
Just call it "The Change" or "The Transition" and you pretty much have it. From the other side, "The Little Death" or "The Bleaching" might be appropriate, but let's not get ahead of ourselves, there may be still be a chance or two (Lovelock doesn't think so and expects things to get totally untenable in T+10y only, now that lots of positive feedback loops are coming online.)
October 17th, 2006 at 7:27 pmI think you are wrong. Drudge is Walter Winchell of his era.
He will stop at nothing to practice "yellow journalism" like Winchell did. He even wears the same stupid hat, the same stupid tie half-way down the neck as Winchell. If he had it, he would probably stick a "press" card in the band of his fedora like Winchell.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:29 pmStu, I have a date with my sister last night. Got any advice on how I can score?
Comment by Mark Glesne
Wow, so clever are we that we use other people's names. Quite funny. But also quite sad.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:29 pmI don't believe in global warming. I mean, geez, some of the guys on the radio say it's bull, besides, it was kinda chilly today.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:29 pm# 65 was obviously not MG. LOL. He would hve never used "have " in the future tennse and "lastnight" in the same breath.LOL Nice try though whomever typed that.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:30 pmMark,
Liberals prone to hysteria??
You neocons have invaded and kills hunderds of thousands of innocent people by your action and each reaction to that action, and more die every day.
The hunt for OBL (The real terrorist) has all but ceased so this government could secure the fact that Iraq would not switch currency to the Euro, as well as securing oil.
Now STFU.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:30 pmHonestly, Mark, I'm too stupid to believe what hundreds of respected scientists say, but the guys on the AM radio tell me it's a liberal ploy to clean up the earth. Damn liberals.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:31 pmI have a confession. I'm actually Charles Nelson Reilly.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:32 pmMark, you ignorant fool, no one ever said the arms race would lead to nuclear winter. They said that massive nuclear war would lead to nuclear winter.
What a pathetic excuse for an argument!
Comment by RealScientist
Please, the two were related. Why would people have been worried about "massive nuclear war" if there wasn't a nucelar arms race occuring? I get what you're saying - but the two were specifically related.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:32 pmMark: "I don’t believe in global warming."
Congratulations, you're an idiot!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:34 pmI have a confession. I’m sitting in front of my computer wearing nothing more than my daughters panties.
Comment by Stu Pidaso — October 17, 2006 @ 7:24 pm
Excuse me, this is a site for hysterical thoughts and end of the world conversations. attempts to hijack one's name should not be tolerated.
And by the way, I wear only thongs, and they are your sister's, not mine!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:34 pmThis is the typical strategy of a obscurantist propagandist. I think we have gone past the tipping point however.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:36 pmMy after midnight name is princess, I am 18 and love moonlight wlka in the junkyard. I'm looking for a shy quiet man that will listen when I tell him to STFU!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:36 pmI love Think Progress because I know that when they post something I can automatically disagree. I mean, my masters told me so.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:36 pmProjection is big with conservatives these days. They've just gotten so hysterical that they've overturned 800 years of legal precedent. They are so scared out of their wits that they'd like to suspend parts of our Bill of Rights. They seem to think the world is going to come to an end if enough gay people get married. They're deeply worried about the survival of blasticists....
and they accuse liberals of being hysterical.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:36 pmI have a confession. I’m actually Charles Nelson Reilly.
Comment by Mark+Glesne — October 17, 2006 @ 7:32 pm
Charles Nelson Reilly doesn't want to admit to being Charles Nelson Reilly. In your case, however, it would be an improvement if you were.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:37 pmIf the Democrats take the House in the midterms, I'm moving to Canada!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:39 pmMark, have fun with these Moonbats!! I've had enough for one day. They really do get quite entertaining when "jabbed with a pointy stick".
Heywood old pal, take care, don't get into too much trouble.
Bassturd old friend, you can't stay out of trouble.
Catch you later!!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:40 pmStu: "I love Think Progress because I know that when they post something I can automatically disagree."
Again, stupid and damn proud of it. People there are a couple of feral pigs rooting around on this board. If you don't feed a feral pig, it will move on to another part of the forest. Sometimes, I forget, and feed the pigs. Sorry.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:40 pmUh oh, it's almost 8pm. I only get paid to post until 8, so I'll be outta here in 20 minutes!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:40 pmI get what you’re saying - but the two were specifically related.
Comment by Mark+Glesne — October 17, 2006 @ 7:32 pm
No, you don't "get" it, otherwise you'd understand what an absolutely inane comment you just made.
What would lead to a "nuclear winter" was the event of a nuclear war, not the arms race. Don't try to pretend you made a cogent argument.
According to the best science available, Global Warming is real. The scientists at the IPCC, and the NSA agree.
This is not a "left vs. right" issue, but a "sound science vs denial" problem.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:41 pmThe reason why it was so hot this year because of those hot pages in congress steaming up the place and effecting the continental united states avg temperature. Notice dates correspond to dates that congress was in session. Global warming is still a myth.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:42 pmThere are plenty of experts that say it is not as your scientist say it is.
Comment by Stu+Pidaso — October 17, 2006 @ 7:13 pm
Stu, start naming them or shut up.
Comment by RealScientist
Ooh, ooh ::Raises hand:: pick me, pick me...
S. Fred Singer, an atmospheric physicist with the University of Virginia and the Environmental Policy Project, called IPCC's global warming projections "completely unrealistic."
- - -
Hartwig Volz, a geophysicist with RWE Research Lab in Germany, questioned the merit of the climate projections coming from the U.N.-sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The IPCC climate projections have fueled worldwide support for the Kyoto Protocol, which aims to restrict the greenhouse gases thought to cause global warming.
Volz noted that IPCC does not even call the climate models "predictions" and instead refers to them as "projections" or "story lines." Volz said the projections might be more aptly termed "fairy tales."
- - -
Dr. Ulrich Berner, a geologist with the Federal Institute for Geosciences in Germany, said global temperatures have varied greatly in the earth's history and are unrelated to human activity.
"The climate of the past has varied under natural conditions without the influence of humans," Berner said.
- - -
The list goes on and on.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:43 pmMark: "If the Democrats take the House in the midterms, I’m moving to Canada!"
Good! Get the f*ck out of here. You're bad news.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:43 pmI really have to laugh at the conservatives who come here accusing everyone of being "hysterical".
The "the muslim terrorists are coming!" crowd accusing us of being hysterical?
It does not get any richer than that.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:43 pmYou know, I don't really disagree with all of you. I just like to argue. I'm a prick like that.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:44 pmActually,
October 17th, 2006 at 7:44 pmI educated my 16 year old, NoMoreRepTrash, because of that message.
she asked who Charles Nelson Reilly is, and I went to you tube and showed her. TP is SO educational!!!
First:
Then:
Stupid republicans don't even know how to BBQ. It takes a hell of a lot longer than 8 minutes to cook a real Bratwaurst. Unless you are cooking some of those nasty precooked ones. On which case they wouldn't be cooked on a grill.
Morons.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:45 pmActually, I'm leaving because you are all meanies. You hurt my feelings. I'm here just trying to humiliate you all, and then you guys fight back. I'm going back to Free Republic where everyone hates as much as I do.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:46 pmIf the Democrats take the House in the midterms, I’m moving to Canada!
Comment by Mark+Glesne — October 17, 2006 @ 7:39 pm
Why wait? Go now. You won't be missed. Not you, and not the 3 names you post under here. All of you such good "friends." Amazing that all you buddies happen to be here at the same time.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:47 pmYeah, and I heard about those scientists on the 700 Club. They're really reputable and all. I mean, Pat Robertson said so.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:48 pmSo what if you hijack other people's names. What, you think that's impressive or something. All that proves is something I already know: you're an a-hole.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:48 pmThe list goes on and on.
Comment by Mark+Glesne — October 17, 2006 @ 7:43 pm
First, nobody said there are no dissenting opinions within the scientific community.
But more importantly, what matter is that there is consensus that global warming is real. When the majority of scientists say phenomenon "A" is real, and all peer-reviewed papers say it is, we should listen.
And to pitch the opinion of geologists, and geophysicists on climate against that of actual climate scientists is, well, rather stupid.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:50 pmA troll thinks it's funny to hijack my name. But, it won't be hard to figure out. Here's how. If Bluedog49 posts something inane, stupid, unfunny, etc., it's not me. If Bluedog49 posits a reasonable argument, maybe it IS me.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:52 pmPlease, the two were related. Why would people have been worried about “massive nuclear war†if there wasn’t a nucelar arms race occuring? I get what you’re saying - but the two were specifically related.
Comment by Mark+Glesne — October 17, 2006 @ 7:32 pm
Put down the shovel, Mark.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:53 pmI'm starting to get frustrated because some has hijacked my name. Basically, I'm reduced to name calling and frantically searching for the scoundrel who is pretending to be me. I'm starting to forget my talking points! I'm melting...what a world!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:53 pmGenius (aka bluedog49),
I used your name to prove a point. Someone used mine and you were responding to points not made by me. I have no problem attaching my real name to my views - unlike almost everyone else here who uses an internet alias.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:54 pmHi all. I thought I should tell you that my anger and hysteria are really caused by the fact that I just came out of the closet today.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:55 pmA conservative troll above started stealing names. Some posters responded by doing the same, because it's not really that hard to do. A conservative responds with this: "Well as long as you liberals are in the business of faking names…'
This is what we're dealing with and why we should just completely ignore conservative trolls when they try to hijack reasonable discussions.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:56 pmTHANK YOU ALL, and GOOD NIGHT!!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:56 pmI used your name to prove a point.
Comment by Mark Glesne — October 17, 2006 @ 7:54 pm
Mark admitted to violating the rules.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:57 pmEveryone email TP to get him banned.
OK, I gotta get ready to go. I'm meeting with Jeff Gannon tonight. He's going to "fill me in" on some super secret talking points.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:57 pmMark, you're just an idiot. Nothing more and possibly a lot less. You have no point, so stop pretending that you know what you're talking about.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:57 pmBy the way, bluedog49, it was a liberal who hijacked a conservative name first. But no worries, we're all going to die from global warming in the end!!
Haha.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:57 pmGO TO HELL, MARK and HAVE A BAD NIGHT!
October 17th, 2006 at 7:58 pmIt really would be better if names weren't hijacked. Nothing destroys a thread more quickly.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:59 pmIn all that lies before us, may God grant us wisdom, and may He watch over the United States of America.
October 17th, 2006 at 7:59 pmI think this comic sums it up nicely: http://xkcd.com/c164.html
October 17th, 2006 at 8:02 pmHow about the frickin' world, Mark?
How about help us all?
How about Peace on Earth?
We are ALL members of this planet. Once we all start acting as partners, striving for a common cause (living), will anything get done.
Geez,... why don't you understand that?
October 17th, 2006 at 8:03 pmBy the way, bluedog49, it was a liberal who hijacked a conservative name first. But no worries, we’re all going to die from global warming in the end!!
Haha.
Comment by Mark+Glesne — October 17, 2006 @ 7:57 pm
Bill Clinton, right? Isn't he to blame for everything the Republicans have f***ed up?
In all that lies before us, may God grant us wisdom, and may He watch over the United States of America.
Comment by Mark+Glesne — October 17, 2006 @ 7:59 pm
Oh, now you care about the United States? Sorry, if you don't care about global warming, then you don't care about the US or the world. All you care about is being a Republican. Party first; people last. Isn't that the Republican slogan? Take your BS and shove it.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:04 pmit was a liberal who hijacked a conservative name first.
Comment by Mark+Glesne — October 17, 2006 @ 7:57 pm
This is what my 5yo says: "But -he started it, dad! No fair!"
October 17th, 2006 at 8:04 pmAnd another blogger showed up in my comments and left this link:
http://piglipstick.blogspot.com/2006/10/news-blackout-o...
He took the question of 'What happened with that ammo dump fire?' and ran with it. He's got a YouTube video of the fire on his blog. You gotta check it out - especially what happens at about 3:59 of the video.
A MASSIVE explosion, and I mean massive. It looks like a goddam nuke going off.
Must-see.
== Thanks for this
Since the explosion blinds the camera for several moments it must have been significant.
Also you can see something bright and huge, like the roof of a building, flying up to the left and then falling to the ground just after the explosion. Impossible to say what that was since there's no way to gauge how far away from the camera the base is. But overall it's pretty disturbing. I really find it hard to believe there were no casualties, and I mean by the proper definition of the word: injured or killed. (How did casualty come to mean only 'dead' in this
country??)
= noticed that myself.How big does a bomb have to be to blow the entire top of a building into the air?
The flash itself is more than a little horrifying. Hard to imagine how anyone within a few blocks of that blast could survive.
= Just saw this. I wish I hadn't
October 17th, 2006 at 8:06 pmLet me clearly state that I was the imposter and I deserve to be punished, neigh, banished from TP. Please forgive me again, but they get me m-m-mad when they come and hijack our threads simply to annoy us.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:08 pmGlobal Warming is actually a Good Thing for ... some .... Once the coastline recedes the food goes AWOL and lots of people begin to clim over the southern fence the State will have no other choice but to switch to Total Control of the whole populace to keep the lid on. I can imagine that some people can't wait for that day.
"...with cattle trucks lying in wait... for the next time..."
October 17th, 2006 at 8:15 pmThe masses are incurably ignorant!!!! Will always be....
Wake up you narrow minded, politician-believing, indocrinated worry warts! Be skeptical.....When is a politician lying?....You know the punch line....
Another Ice Age?, Time Magazine Cover, April 6, 1974
http://www.global-warming-info.com
Christ Sakes!
October 17th, 2006 at 8:36 pmBush signs torture bill; Americans lose essential freedom. October 17, 2006
George W. Bush got what he wanted, ostensibly as a tool in his unfocused "war on terror": By signing into law the Military Commissions Act of 2006, Bush has made it legal for the C.I.A. to continue operating torture facilities in undisclosed, foreign countries, and for the writ of habeas corpus to be suspended for individuals who are designated "enemy combatants" against the U.S. (Designated by whom? That question remains unanswered.) The law also "establishes military tribunals that would allow some use of evidence obtained by coercion [that is, torture], but would give defendants access to classified evidence being used to convict them." (Reuters)
The provisions of Bush's new torture law mean that Americans have lost the key, constitutional right on which Anglo-American criminal law (and criminal-law procedures in true democracies in general) is founded; that's the basic right of an individual to know why he or she is being apprehended and detained. Now, technically, as in Stalin's Soviet Union, Hitler's Germany, Mao's China or Pol Pot's Cambodia, anyone labeled an "enemy combatant" - again, by whom; by Bush? - can be whisked away and never heard from again. That kind of authority, in the hands of corrupt or untruthful politicians, may or may not be an effective tool in some kind of "war on terror," but it certainly can be a useful tool when it comes to silencing their opponents.
In an Orwellian pronouncement dutifully reported by Voice of America, the taxpayer-funded "news" service that acts as a mouthpiece for the administration, Bush said: "The United States does not torture....It is against our laws and it is against our values. By allowing the C.I.A. program to go forward, this bill is preserving a tool that has saved American lives." Bush's claim flies in the face of numerous reports of torture conducted by American officials at U.S. military prisons or secret locations overseas.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:39 pmThank you, SoObvious, for a trip down memory lane.
Needless to say, we all know what an accurate source of sound scientific information Time magazine is.
Way above Science and Scientific American.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:40 pmGlobal warming is happening - as many of you have pointed out. Can we do anything about - maybe? The earth goes through warm periods and cold periods. We are in a warm period right now. What would people being saying if we were in a cold period, or an ice age?
Now, is Matt Drudge trying to convince us otherwise... that I won't comment on.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:48 pmHis obsessions are transparent. I just blogged about his seemingly endless hate/love for Madonna. He's been posting about her every move since the Antarctica still had glaciers.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:49 pmI have a hard time getting into the Drudge stuff. I would have to go read his shit, and I don't want to do that. I read he is popular.
Amazing so many poeple like the taste of steaming piles of crap.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:51 pmPut on your liberal burmuda shorts, flip-flops, and throw all these bassturds out of office.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:53 pmI just blogged about his seemingly endless hate/love for Madonna.
Whats the problem with Madonna adopting the kid? Shes hot anyway, heh.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:55 pmIt’s crunch time. And down to the wire in the Senate races in Missouri, Tennessee and Virginia. We need to get out there, even if it’s only virtually. Here are Missouri and Virginia newspaper web sites where you can post:
October 17th, 2006 at 8:56 pmhttp://forums.kansascity.com/n/mb/listsf.asp?webtag=kr-kansascity
http://nwitimes.com/shared-content/phpBB/
http://www.roanoke.com/blogs/wb/xp-index
http://home.hamptonroads.com/guestbook/guestbook.cfm
Off topic:
Keith Olbermann is going to have a Special Comment on his show tomorrow about the death of Habeas Corpus.
October 17th, 2006 at 8:58 pmUm....as you were...
October 17th, 2006 at 8:59 pmIsn't NOAA the same organization that literally promised us 16-18 huricanes this year? How many did we have? The ocean just doesn't cool down that fast. These fricken idiots don't know anymore about climate than I do. The Earth heats up. The Earth cools down. Get over it people!
October 17th, 2006 at 9:01 pmJay,
Hurricane season doesn't end until November 30. They've been extremely lucky this year.
October 17th, 2006 at 9:08 pmGuys, GRAMMAR. It is important. "Efforts...Reach" is correct, "Efforts...Reaches" is not. Your headline should read: "Matt Drudge's Efforts to Cast Doubt on Global Warming Reach New Level of Desperation."
October 17th, 2006 at 9:15 pmDrudge blew me last night. Prove he didn't.
October 17th, 2006 at 10:07 pm#149 You are right. Are you going to do something about it? Or are you going to bitch? Sue em.
October 17th, 2006 at 10:09 pmThe term "global warming" is being replaced by the scientific community with the term "climate change" as being more precise.
In some areas, the temperature may remain the same but the rainfall might increase or decrease to a great extent. As in Drudge's case, "global warming" deniers will often point to a year when the temps are colder and claim that the science behind the trend of climate change is wrong. But of course, being in denial won't stop the enevitable.
Alaska's melting -
hope your Yukon Denali
doubles as a boat.
-Anonymous
http://www.honku.org/
October 17th, 2006 at 10:50 pmYeah, these folks won't give up until Florida is underwater. Would they jump off a tall building because gravity was "discovered" by science? How about electricity, refrigeration, space travel, computers, the Internet, atomic energy, radar... do they reject all science or only that which is inconvenient?
Here is another.
October 17th, 2006 at 11:25 pmhttp://www.statesmanjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200661016028
to be fair...
he may have a point that the threat of "American September Warming" is overblown.
October 17th, 2006 at 11:45 pmIf I were gay I wouldn't do you Drudge. Offended? Aww, too bad.
October 17th, 2006 at 11:47 pmDamnit, people... it's about the rate of change in the temperature.
It's the massive, upward surge in the short period of time that is at issue, not simply the upward trend.
RATE OF CHANGE!
^ repeat, liberally ;)
October 17th, 2006 at 11:49 pmEconAtheist, that is kinda scientific. Righties don't get science.
October 18th, 2006 at 12:00 amDrudge is a seriously closeted Gay guy, who has issues, so who cares what he thinks or spews about anything > he is very fruity!
October 18th, 2006 at 12:13 amLets step back for a moment, Jay.
I've been drinking Canadian whisky for the last four hours, and as my name entails, I know my way around a bottle. But I would have to be porch-diving plastered to ever conceive of saying this:
so who cares what he thinks or spews about anything > he is very fruity! Comment by Jay Randal
Please, do the right thing, man.
October 18th, 2006 at 12:26 amWhatever barfly > do you like Drudge the sludge? He is fruity, and closeted, and I am NOT drunk like you drinking whisky > lol.
October 18th, 2006 at 12:38 amEconAtheist, that is kinda scientific. Righties don’t get science.
Comment by JPark
Is that science JPark?
Funny how much the climate changed without Man even alive huh? It's true climate change does occur. What is not proven is that Man has anything to do with it. Of all the times the earth has warmed there followed a cooling period. Mother earth works in cycles and seems to be able to recover from both cool and warm periods.
October 18th, 2006 at 12:47 amIt’s true climate change does occur. What is not proven is that Man has anything to do with it.
Comment by Steve — October 18, 2006 @ 12:47 am
Steve, you need to catch up:
Are humans contributing to global warming?
In 1995, the world's climate experts in the IPCC concluded for the first time in a cautious consensus, "The balance of evidence suggests that there is a discernible human influence on the global climate."
Union Of Concerned Scientists: Global Warming - FAQs
One more time: There is consensus in the scientific community that global warming is real and human activity is one of the causes.
Mother earth works in cycles and seems to be able to recover from both cool and warm periods.
And in the meantime, climate change will wreck havoc in the world's economy, causing floods in some areas and droughts in others, which can potentially lead to famine and mass migrations.
Coastal areas are specially vulnerable in the short term.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
October 18th, 2006 at 1:16 amComment by Steve
October 18th, 2006 at 1:22 amAgain in the wrong side.
Im gonna tell you a story which actually happened. For the Earth to be formed a lot of time had to passed, near 4.5 billion years (in the US, cause for the rest of us a billion is a million of a million). Nature invented an incredible mechanism to get rid of all toxic, foul, harming substances that were in the atmosphere before this one we have. That mechanism is called sedimentation. It consists of depositions of solid material in the ground. At the end of this process, the atmosphere were ready to breed life. Without this atmosphere, there couldnt be water and without water, no life. So, all this substances that the Earth patiently put underneath so every living being could developed is now being thrown into the atmosphere once again...by humans. You know, drilling and extracting methane and crude oil which contains really toxic substances for life. Also, the ozone layer is being depleted by CFC´s. Acid rain is caused by sulphur in the atmosphere. Erosion of soils is due to strong winds and no trees. Ozone in the troposphere is caused by NOx´s which are released by fuel engines. So, Steve...I havent spoken anything about Global Warming. Yet you are smart enough to see the influence of men in all of the above examples. Global Warming is the consequence of them all.
Steve, US is the only place in the world where people think Global Warming doesnt exist. What does that tell you about some US citizens?
October 18th, 2006 at 1:27 amJay Randal + barfly . true fruity love>lol
October 18th, 2006 at 2:11 amE harmony > nope I am not fruity or into being with barfly > lol.
October 18th, 2006 at 2:49 amLet's, for the sake of argument say that there is no rock solid proof that man's behavior is causing climate change.
Why not do all we can to wean our dependence on fossil fuels, anyway? They pollute the air and water, are becoming increasingly scarce and expensive, and in the case of oil, will run out eventually.
As Tom Friedman of the NY Times is always saying, the most 'patriotic' thing we can do is to go green. Right now, we're being held hostage by the big oil producing nations and contributing to the funding of terrorism, every time we fill our gas tank.
So, what's the deal? Why is the right wing so threatened by solar energy and cars that run on ethenol?
October 18th, 2006 at 3:21 amGlobal warming will cause the earth to cool, not heat up. That's what people don't understand. Because of the effect of Global Warming on the oceans, it's not hot weather that will be the ultimate result. It will be cold, which will destroy crops, cause final decimation of any remaining energy supplies, and eventually, war and famine. We will be in another ice age. You think 2 feet of snow in Buffalo is strange in October? Wait until its snowing in July.
October 18th, 2006 at 4:40 amThe disruption of ocean currents by Glogal Warming will cause the earth to cool. We, or our descendents, will eventually be in another ice age. Wait until it snows in Buffalo in July.
October 18th, 2006 at 4:47 amHere is what taking Global Warming seriously leads to (Just off of the top of my head):
1: Less smog. For those of us who live in cities you will actually be able to breath better air, which means you will be healthier, things will look better, and the place will smell less like someone dumped a crate of sulphur in your pool.
2: Less reliance on foreign oil. If the world takes serious measures to counter global warming, then that means we will also be taking serious measures to reduce the amount of oil we use.
3: Less Islamic terrorism. People like Osama get their chief funding from OPEC nations, who get their chief funding from oil. If the world ends up needing less oil, there will be less funding available to spare for terror, and thus less terror.
4: It will work out cheaper in the long run. Oil supplies are currently limited, we can't make more fossil fuels, and coal conversion is expensive. As oil gets more scarce the price will go up, if we go in for a renewable alternative that price will go up more slowly, and the renewable alternative will get cheaper as we perfect it.
5: It will create more jobs for farmers. If we start, say, using biodiesel rather then diesel, then farmers will have a new market for vegetable oils and America won't need to pay farmers to not grow crops.
6: This will also democratise energy production, because it is a lesser risk operating a farm, to drilling for oil, and thus with an enlarged market it should be easier to get funding together to do it.
Here is what not taking it seriously will lead to:
1: More smog.
2: More reliance on foreign oil; as America's own oil fields become less and less viable those held by foreign powers will become more profitable.
3: More Islamic terrorism. More funds going overseas to buy oil, more funds going overseas to fund Islamic terrorism. It is after all, the Islamic states that currently have the oil.
4: It will work out more expensive in the long run. Oil will go up in price (and only go down around the elections) while the alternative will languish as a perpetual proto-type, kept uneconomic by the sheer force of the fact that it won't be being developed comercially. Eventually some other country will figure out the alternative, and America will end up having to pay patent duties to use it.
5: Problems for farmers. With increased instability in the world's weather, crops which farmers have been growing for ages will become less viable, forcing them to switch over to farming something else, which they will be less familiar with.
6: Energy companies will gain more and more political power, they will have the ability to control the price of fuel, which can translate into controlling who gets into power, as well as having a stronger and stronger lobbying presence in Congress, the Senate and the Oval Office. This includes the guys who are funding Islamic Terror.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:00 amEXCLUSIVE*** Matt Drudge is an organic hat rack. Developing.***
Did John McCain booze it up with Hillary or not? Only your favorite NY Times op-ed colunmist Maureen Dowd knows for sure.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:46 amWow, looks like someone dredged up a bunch of wankers.
Once they separate the anti-development, anti-western civilization yokels (yes, you) from science, then maybe the mainstream will listen. For now, global warming is hyped just like global cooling was 30 years ago and the population explosion years before that.
Let's face it. If you want to save the environment, kill yourself. You use more resources than 99% of the people who ever lived. By inducing your own death, you're saving the planet. Amen.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:59 amEvery time someone who identifies themself as a progressive says or writes something, I revise the definition of the word 'progressive' just slightly. In this case, Judd would have me define Progressive as "an individual given to kneejerk reactions based on a myopic worldview". Anyone who has read Drudge for any period of time knows that this posting (which comes without editorialization, unlike most so-called progressive media) only states a fact. His inference is unsupported by the post itself. Moreover, Drudge usually posts things which talk about the negative impacts of global warming. Drudgereport isn't left wing or right wing; it's sensationalist. Drudgereport posts things that are likely to inflame people, drive up his traffic, and make more money off of advertising.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:07 amMatt Drudge is not a hat rack, he's a douchebag, there's a difference. Honestly Fux News and this whole chorus of professional misinformers make it glaringly obvious how the first amendment has been turned into a cheap prostitute.
How ironic that when Reagan was in office he commissioned that Edwin Meese freak to investigate pornography which was easily outlawed and restricted, sorry I'm working from memory here, the supreme court ruled that pornography isn't protected speech because it has no socially redeeming value, you may remember when for a long time suddenly playboy wasn't sold in 7-11, that was somehow a result of this crap.
My point is that sexually explicit imagery is constantly under attack, but no one seems to give a f--k that these corporate shills are waging a succesful information war against humanity and hiding behind the middle class.
As long as I'm whining about speech that shouldn't be protected, what about these corporate special interest groups running television commercials claiming that unions have destroyed the economy, but they don't bother to say who they are in the ad. In Illinois we now have 'concerned citizense for reliable electricity' running ads warning that if the power company isn't allowed to set rates however they see fit we'll have 'california style energy crises' I mean come on, this is the freaking power company speaking through some shell corporation that they actually must have tax exempt status for, it makes me sick, and it should absolutely be illegal, like the rest of this crap.
Taking money to support an opinion while portraying yourself as an unbiased expert, or hiding your agenda, or really in any way distorting the truth to the public like this is so detrimental it's really unspeakable. Like the American electorate isn't ignorant and misinformed enough as it is. What are we always hearing, 25% of people think 9-11 was a conspiracy, half of people think WMD's have been found in Iraq? This big money propaganda is at the heart of the crisis the poorest 90% of America faces. If these freaking people spread enough bs around, people will start to believe anything, and you know they've already succeeded.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:07 amThat's your story? You don't argue very well. I smell a liberal. Maybe I shouldn't say anything else because I'll be called an Iraq war supporter and be yelled at that I am big oil supporter.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:09 amGlobal warming is a natural phenomenon and not a man made one.
So, why do we worry about something we can't change?
Simple, "global warming" is the new leftist religion and like islam must not be insulted, degraded or ignored.
Death to the infidels and non-believers (of global warming)!
TS
October 18th, 2006 at 8:15 amoops i didn't mean war against humanity and hiding behind the middle class I meant
war against humanity and the middle class and hiding behind the constitution which when it suits their needs seems to be quite flexible but is stagnant when they want to have official prayer time in public schools.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:15 amMama Mia maybe you shouldn't say anything because there are a plethora of places for people who "smell a liberal" to hang out. You don't see us all arguing that the earth is older than 10,000 years at your Jesus people websites.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:17 amOf course there is global warming -this has been going on for years.
There is indisputable evidence that glaciers were over my property 11,000 years ago and it is estimated they were 1 mile hile. Currently we do get ice on the pond in Dec-Mar but that is all. Tell me that is not warming or why a 11,000 year old trend is going to change just because someone says so.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:18 amGlobal Warming may indeed be real. But I just love how everyone ignores that the sun is burning hotter than ever......GEE, I WONDER IF THE SUN BURNING HOTTER COULD MAKE THE EARTH WARMER ALL BY ITSELF.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:19 amGEE, I WONDER IF THE SUN BURNING HOTTER COULD MAKE THE EARTH WARMER ALL BY ITSELF.
Comment by Captain Obvious
Yeah, avoid all responsibility. I bet your wife "falls" a lot from stairs.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:36 amGlobe gets warmer. So what? Like anyone can do anything about it. I remember learning in grade school that we would be in an ice age by now and people would be falling off the planet from overpopulation. More recently, bird flu was going to wipe out large populations. With only about 100 years of shakey temperature data, I'm going to wait another 100 years before forming an opinion on the warming issue -- not that it matters. Given we can't predict the weather more than a couple days out, I don't see how anyone can figure out what the climate will do years from now. Kudos to those of you who understand that if the globe is warming, it's from natural causes rather than evil mankind.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:40 amWhy do these people come here and try to argue about how real global warming is? Why don't you try that somewhere that people aren't convinced. By the way there isn't one legitimate scientist that disputes man has greatly accelerated global warming and it's dangerous. Not one, not even at Oral Roberts University or any other ultra right Jesus university. Dumbass.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:41 amThe problem with being retarded is that you are a retard. Drudge doesnt write the articles, he only makes tasty headlines. Nice job Corky.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:46 am#178: I’m going to wait another 100 years before forming an opinion on the warming issue
A very smart strategy. This ought to enable you to avoid taking any responsibility during your lifetime. Your children and grandchildren thank you.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:46 amHey you idiots, way to go drawing rediculous conclusions. In that headline I dont see the word "global" or the word "warming" anywhere. All your doing is twisting the words of others to try to prove your "conservative media conspiracy theory." Drudge may question global warming, but isn't that what free speech is for? It's not like he's spreading misinformation to millions of people, he's just questioning data, as all American citizens should. @Demokat: Snowing in July is going to cause a war? Maybe a famine at worst, but a war? Seriously, think about it.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:53 amIn fairness, I've seen Drudge links to articles about the hottest July ever a few months ago.
October 18th, 2006 at 9:05 amHAHA you idiots. Idiots don't know that you mean you're and ridiculous.
What a useful illustration you are. The essence of any remaining debate on global warming is ignorance, illiteracy, and motivation.
October 18th, 2006 at 9:10 amAnd that is a perfect summary of the Rightwing. If you disagree with them, you should just kill yourself, because hell they just cannot handle the fact that they are complete and total BRAINLESS PIECES OF SHIT.
There is not a single peer reviewed study that contradicts global warming, and you don't get that many scientists agreeing on anything unless there is a shitload of evidence for it. You guys like whine and bitch about the fact that we liberals don't like you? Guess what wanker, we don't like you because you keep on accusing us of the shit your pisstanks have done.
9/11? Blame Clinton for the security, yeah because it is not like he left office eight months before the fact now is it?
Katrina? Yeah blame the liberals, meanwhile the state of Lousiana put forward a plan to modernise the levee system - BEFORE the Hurricane, only to have what funding they had for levees cut. Yeah and blame the liberals for the shitty response, it is not like GW Bloody Bush hired a political lackey in the position of FEMA head when that specific position has always historically been run by someone who actually knew what the hell they we doing now is it?
Dividing the nation? Yeah because it is not like calling people filthy liberals for mildly disagreeing with you on any given issue isn't a great unifier now is it?
Weakening America's economy? Yeah and under Clinton what was the deficit? A surplus. Your Republicans, your beloved sainted pedophiles, have run up the biggest Deficits in American history, and yeah adjust for inflation and do you know what it takes to beat Bush's deficits? World War Two!
And we are the fiscally irresponsible aren't we? You have Delay comparing himself to frigging Jesus Christ and we liberals are the ones who are morally bankrupt? You have Ann Coulter calling the widows of 9/11 the Witches of East Brunswick and we are supposed to be the ones filled with hate? Actually, yes, we are.
We hate the fact that under your bloody stupid goverment, nothing has been done about pollution. Indeed pollution standards have been relaxed, while the rest of the world is bringing out tougher and tougher measures. You want to know why Ford is not competetive with Japanese cars? Because the rest of the world is not interested in gas guzzling shit-mobiles. We want cars which don't pollute as badly, and looking at America, where you have a goverment that subsidises pollution, we simply don't see Ford as being a non-polluting vehicle.
We hate the fact that being anti-Bush is called being Anti-American by the same hypocrits that just couldn't wait to accuse Clinton of wagging the dog over terrorism, and we certainly hate the people who made the accusations and then went on to blame Clinton for not doing enough to curb terrorism.
And look at this, Ha! Shocking, scientists are jumping up and down saying "We have to do something about global warming" while you total imbeciles on the right are ignoring them just so that you can make a political point about liberals. You have spent so much effort trying to make us look bad, you Bin-Laden loving chicken-f$^*ers have been ignoring every bit of evidence that might suggest there is indeed a frigging problem.
Drudge posts lies. He has been repeatedly discredited. He is a hack, and not a terribly bright one. That the rightwing likes the taste of bullshit and just loves being lied to does not mean the rest of us do. Get your head out of your arse, look at who the bloody President of the United is, and stop wasting our damned time talking about liberals.
October 18th, 2006 at 9:18 am#182: It’s not like he’s spreading misinformation to millions of people, he’s just questioning data, as all American citizens should.
All Americans should question data? So, you're suggesting that all Americans should try to misrepresent statistics to mean whatever they want them to mean, as Matt Drudge does?
October 18th, 2006 at 9:33 amHey Drudge it was 63 degrees here this morning. Its the lowest temperature of the day. Its more proof that Global Warming isn't happening. Run with it.
October 18th, 2006 at 9:39 am[...] Global warming is real. Matt Drudge, “the Walter Cronkite of his era,” is working overtime to convince people it isn’t happening. Here’s what he put up on the Drudge Report today…read more | digg story [...]
October 18th, 2006 at 10:35 am[...] Original post by Judd [...]
October 18th, 2006 at 10:36 amThis just in from Captain Obvious:
#176 Captain Obvious is not the real Captain Obvious - which is obviously, me. The fake Captain Obvious bloviates about things that are not obvious at all, and of course offers no evidence to support his/her bloviations,.... er obviously.
October 18th, 2006 at 10:39 am"Climate Change" is what the scientific community says, but "global warming" is what the popular press and the public say. In matters of language, fortunatly Orwell is often wrong -- the public wins; war is not peace.
Even if the press makes a universal and conscious effort to adopt the term "climate change," it is likely that the public will continue to talk about "global warming" for many years to come.
An example of recent use of the term "climate change" is the linked report from the Congressional Budget Office, "Uncertainty in Anlyzing Climate Change: Policy Implications."
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/60xx/doc6061/01-24-ClimateChange.pdf
October 18th, 2006 at 11:41 amI had a milk shake yesterday;It was cold.
That PROVES global warming is fake.
Can I be a Republican now?
Can I? Can I?
October 18th, 2006 at 11:42 amI question any data that purports to prove rightwing GOPers are actually human.
DNA results are definitely suspect, and should be doubted.
See?
October 18th, 2006 at 12:13 pmQuestioning data can be
a GOOD thing, no?
@kdz: Way to picking at common spelling mistakes to try to make a point. Also, thanks for reminding me how much global warming has to do with ILLITERACY, the ability to read. The idea that common ideas even as sensitive as Global Warming shouldnt be debated is undemocratic and unamerican. I personally do believe in global warming, but I wont take away another's right from believeing the opposite.
Also, George brought up a good point. If you actually cared about the full picture, you might previous drudge headlines such as "ENGLAND SETS ALL-TIME HOT TEMP" in August, "Drought continues in hot and dusty Phoenix, which has endured 140 plus days without rain..." in March and "Hot Temperatures Force Blackouts in Texas" in April.
October 18th, 2006 at 12:39 pmUsing your when you mean you're isn't a spelling mistake, its stupidity. Illiteracy is the ability to read and write.
October 19th, 2006 at 7:37 amIt's not undemocratic to question the motives for debating something that's beyond debate. Get the point. Why are people disputing this. They are either ignorant, in that there isn't a single peer reviewed study that disputes global warming among the thousands that have been published, which a person would know if they took the time to read anything that isn't some right wing crap before injecting their stupidity into the debate, or they have an ulterior motive.
So is it unamerican to suggest that on an issue which shouldn't be 'sensitive', a person should have some freaking clue before they indulge in their spiteful desire to disagree for the sake of disagreeing? Maybe it is if you're stupid.
October 19th, 2006 at 7:47 amErr illiteracy is the inability to read and write. Christ that shit is contagious.
October 19th, 2006 at 7:49 amMore facts about humans causing global warming....
You have got to check this out!!!
October 19th, 2006 at 2:34 pmhttp://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/Greenhouse_not_a_problem.htm
October 19th, 2006 at 2:39 pmhttp://www.livescience.com/forcesofnature/050330_earth_tilt.html
We must deal with climate change now!
“We simply cannot afford to gamble… by ignoring it.
We cannot risk inaction. Those scientists who say
we are merely entering a period of climatic instability
are acting irresponsibly. The indications that our
climate can soon change for the worse are too strong
to be reasonably ignored.â€
1978, Lowell Ponte, The Cooling. Pg.237
October 19th, 2006 at 3:08 pmRegarding the above quote. Familiar language, isn’t it? But it’s not about global warming, it’s about global cooling. Fear of a new ice age. Anybody here worried about a new ice age? Anybody upset we didn’t act now, back then, to stockpile food and do all the other things we were warned we had to do?
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