Yesterday in a debate against Senate Democratic candidate Jon Tester, Sen. Conrad Burns (R-MT) took offense at the suggestion that President Bush has no real plan for victory in Iraq. Burns stated, “He [Tester] says our president don’t have a plan. I think he’s got one. He’s not going to tell everyone in the world.” Burns added that Tester, in specific, was not allowed to know the path forward in Iraq because “you’re just going to go out and blow it.” Watch it:
But as Tester pointed out, Bush doesn’t have a plan other than “stay the course.” Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) recently stated that Bush needs to “find a new strategy, a way out of Iraq” and 61 percent of the American public agreed that Bush has no clear plan for handling the situation in Iraq, according to a Sept. CNN/Gallup poll.
(Audio file here.)
Full transcript below:
CONRAD BURNS: I said we gotta win. He wants to pull out. He wants everybody to know our plan. That’s not smart. If you had a plan in order to win are you gonna tell the enemy? He’s not — the enemy’s not gonna tell us! That is absolutely unbelievable that anyone would take that approach! He says our president don’t have a plan. I think he’s got one. But he’s not gonna tell everybody in the whole world. And if you wanna go out and spar for a fight or you gonna tell your enemy what your plan is? I don’t think so. And that’s the way we’ll win it, Because we want to win it.
[SNIP TESTER REMARKS]
BURNS: Again he says there’s no plan. There is a plan. We’re not gonna tell you, John. We’re not gonna tell you what our plan is because you’ll just go out there and blow it. Period! By heavens, that’s just common sense. That’s enough.
JON TESTER: I just wanna say one thing.
BURNS: Wait a minute, hold the phone!
TESTER: Ok, all right, all right.
MODERATOR: This is his response.
TESTER: This is my response…
MODERATOR: Just this last word, then we’ll move on.
BURNS: No, I don’t think he has. I think he’s out of bounds.
MODERATOR: No, no.
TESTER: Mike asked me a question, I answered, you get to answer, I get to answer. That’s the way it works.
BURNS: Oh really?
TESTER: Yes.
BURNS: Like checkers?
TESTER: That’s the way it works. Well it’s interesting, Senator Burns because I listened to some of your comrades on TV last week who came back from Iraq, I guess they don’t know the plan either. The chairman of the Armed Services Committee doesn’t know the plan but you do. Because the chairman of the Armed Services Committee says that if things don’t change we need to change things. We need to have a plan.
You think you could let our commanders on the ground in on your plan?
October 18th, 2006 at 5:01 pmAt least, we know it is a CUT & RUN plan.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:03 pmI would settle for telling SOMEONE, ANYONE.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:04 pmAmanda,
Actually, he doesn’t say Bush has a plan. He says he “thinks” Bush has a plan. I think Burns is wrong.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:06 pmLast I knew it was our government and Bush works for us. Americans need to know what the plan is so they can vote accordingly. “Trust me” is not a plan.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:07 pmWhat is he waiting for the right moment to spring it on everyone? Or is this the same plan that ended with us being greeted with flowers and sweets as liberators?
October 18th, 2006 at 5:08 pmNot only is he not gonna tell everybody in the whole world — he’s not even gonna tell anybody in the whole world. Probably cuz Rove and Cheney haven’t figured out which string to pull on his sock puppet body to get him to spill that info…
October 18th, 2006 at 5:09 pmBefore these congressmen leave office, we need to have them attend at least 10 hours of English classes to learn how to speak English. Mrs. Bush doesn’t seem to be doing anything but campaigning, Laura could teach all those republicans, along with her husband, some proper grammer and the English language. My gosh, they sure talk funny.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:09 pmAnybody here remember Nixon’s secret plan to get us out of Vietnam?
October 18th, 2006 at 5:10 pmI am old enough to remember President Nixon stating that he had a secret plan to end the Vietnam war. No one bought it then, and certainly Nixon was a lot more credible than Conrad Burns, as crazy as that sounds.
Better start making out your pension paperwork Conrad, as the good folks in Montana are about to color you gone.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:11 pmNixon had a secret plan on how to get out of Vietnam too.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:11 pmTHE FAR RIGHT RADIO HOSTS ARE THE SECRET PLAN FOR IRAQ
October 18th, 2006 at 5:13 pmSTAY THE CORPSE
Has been, is, and will be the plan.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:13 pmLet me guess, the plans are in the PNAC document “rebuilding america’s defences”.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:16 pmJust a warning to you folks: PorkyPervert, the namestealer is in the house.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:16 pmYa see, when Burnsie says he thinks I think, well, er, uh, he couldn’t be wronger.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:16 pmCause I don’t, well the decider, see that’s what they, well, er. OK.
Conrad Burns says he thinks Bush has a plan for Iraq. I think Conrad Burns is a corrupt idiot, but he just can’t come out and say that sort of thing.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:17 pmThis is the essence of this administration’s strategy – we’re making the world safer but if we told you how we’d have to kill you.” In the absense of better info, we can only look at the results. And anyone who does, objectively, can see that these guys gotta go.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:17 pmAnd that was just what this was shy of for being another Vietnam….
October 18th, 2006 at 5:18 pm[Comment deleted by admin]
October 18th, 2006 at 5:20 pmThis again reiterates that idea that republicans look at the government as daddy. Don’t question him. He’s in charge. Do as he says.
Progressives look at govewrnment as a partner. How can we both be part of the decision making process? Why are you spending so much money at Walmart? When were you going to tell me the car needs oil?
Joking aside – the idea that we should trust our government is enough to make Jefferson and the like turn in his grave.
With close to 3000 service men and women dead, with an estimated 5 – 6 hundred thousand Iraqi civilians dead, I believe we have every right to know the plan.
Tester is obviously a moran stool pigeon for the GOP.
Vote them out on Nov. 7th
October 18th, 2006 at 5:21 pmJake at 11– yes. Nixon had a “secret plan” to end the war in Vietnam, a campaign fakery. After the election he would do what his opponent McGovern had said–exit. Which is probably just what will happen with Iraq.
The hand of Henry Kissinger, even if we had not been told how closely he was now working with Bush-Cheney.
Disgusting.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:21 pmI think he only tell GOD about his plan.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:22 pmCaption Contest:
“Let the eagle soooooaaarrrr…”
October 18th, 2006 at 5:22 pmIt is really, really convenient to have a secret plan. That way when something ugly happens you can go; “Well that was not in our plan” or “That contingency could not have foreseen in our plan”. If something goes well you can go; “damn I am so smart that went just according to plan” or “This is a direct result of my secret plan”.
So children the moral of the story is….the plan is to have a secret plan or even a secret non-existent plan.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:23 pmBush’s secret plan: stay in Iraq ’til January, 2009, absorb another 3,000 kia and 20,000+ wounded, squander another $500 billion, and dump the whole mess on the next administration–who you can then blame when the whole thing falls apart. Because, you know, Barney supports the troops!
October 18th, 2006 at 5:23 pmI think “Ive Got A Secret” was an old TV quiz show. Burns is confused and demented. He’s beginning to rant.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:24 pmNixon had a “secret plan” to get out of VIet Nam also. That was a good one! Burns has his presidents, his game shows and his thoughts all bollixed up in his addled brain.
spudgeboy says: On the other hand, Burns may be right as Bush has shown some increasingly positive leadership skills in the past few moths. He actually has brought his position to the public and has engaged the press more frequently. Who knows, maybe Bush isn’t all that bad. Any thoughts?
Whatever you’re taking, stop. It’s making you stupid.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:25 pmThis is vintage Henry Kissinger – Cheney and Bush’s most trusted advisor on Iraq!
Burns could tell us…
…but then he’d have to kill us!
October 18th, 2006 at 5:25 pm[Comment deleted by admin]
October 18th, 2006 at 5:29 pmBurns stated, “He [Tester] says our president don’t have a plan. I think he’s got one. He’s not going to tell everyone in the world.â€
October 18th, 2006 at 5:30 pm#30
October 18th, 2006 at 5:31 pmThat doesnt sound like the real Spudge, I think a troll is using his name.
SpudgeBoy, I don’t believe that’s you. I say that someone has hijacked your screen name. Bush has gotten worse in the last few months, not better, and I know that you would know that better than anyone.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:33 pmHe’ll tell Barney…
October 18th, 2006 at 5:33 pm[...] I’m glad we won’t have to listen to the ramblings of Senator Burns for much longer. [...]
October 18th, 2006 at 5:34 pmWho knows, maybe Bush isn’t all that bad. Any thoughts?
Comment by SpudgeBoy — October 18, 2006 @ 5:20 pm
Jason is that you? You know you’ll get banned for impersonating people, right?
October 18th, 2006 at 5:35 pmComment by SpudgeBoy — October 18, 2006 @ 5:20 pm
Yes. I think someone else is posting using SpudgeBoy’s name.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:35 pmTo have a plan, one would have to have a thought or even a clue, since there is not enough useful brain matter in the aggregate of the entire Administration and Republican Party to formulate a clue, I sincerely doubt their claim of a Plan for Iraq.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:35 pm“Because the chairman of the Armed Services Committee says that if things don’t change we need to change things.”
Wonder what that’s all about.
The plan is to finalize the contract with the Iraqi Government for Exxon/Mobile, Sunoco, Shell and BP to control the oil fields and oil production and oil exploration until the wells run dry in Iraq. This contract is expected to be finalized by the end of this year. Then we can “cut and run”. Too bad, too sad for all the lost lives and injuries sustained in this battle for oil. Sadistical, selfish, greedy people don’t care about other peoples lives. Bush said “the sacrifice is worth it”. What he didn’t say was that “it” refers to Iraq’s oil.
We won’t have to listen to Conrad Burns too much longer. He will lose the Senate race on November 7, 2006.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:37 pmShhhhh !!! Don’t tell anyone about the plan !! Al-Qaeda might know !! Keep it quiet !!
October 18th, 2006 at 5:38 pm#30 SpudgeBoy impersonator
You guys are so freakin’ desperate it’s just embarassing. How appropriate that you’d pull a stupid stunt like that in a thread about Conrad Burns and his “secret plan”.
Did you hear that? It was the sound of every Burns supporter in Montana with an IQ above 60 tossing their Burns campaign buttons in the shitcan. Grow up or give up, losers.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:42 pmI have a plan. It’s a secret plan. That means I can’t tell nobody. Not even Condi…I mean Laura. Heck, I can’t even tell my generals. Next thing ya know, another one retires, then what happens? There goes my secret plan, all over the place. Can’t trust those generals. That’s why I keep my plans to my self. But that’s ok, ‘cuz I got it memorized. Karl helps me there. He keeps my secret plans down to three words, like “cut and run” but that’s not my plan. We gotta stay the course. Oops, did I just say that? Well, that’s not my plan either. It’s….something else altogether. What it is I don’t know yet. Karl hasn’t told me. It’s that secret. Even I don’t know. But I’ve got one. A secret. Just ask Condi….
October 18th, 2006 at 5:42 pm#20 Spudgeboy – your comment has to be sarcasm, right? No same person supports George Bush, the man that emulates Josef Stalin, you know, complete control and imprison, torture and kill those whom you think are your enemies. Too Bush, it’s all in his mind… it all goes down in his mind.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:42 pmLet’s keep it so secret that even we won’t know what it is. *nyuk, nyuk, nyuk*
October 18th, 2006 at 5:43 pm#
It is really, really convenient to have a secret plan. That way when something ugly happens you can go; “Well that was not in our plan†or “That contingency could not have foreseen in our planâ€. If something goes well you can go; “damn I am so smart that went just according to plan†or “This is a direct result of my secret planâ€.
So children the moral of the story is….the plan is to have a secret plan or even a secret non-existent plan.
Comment by j+swift — October 18, 2006 @ 5:23 pm
Very funny.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:46 pmOf course this post at #20 is not me.
Judd, you need to do something about name highjackers just like you said you would if people did it again. Ban this person’s IP Address
October 18th, 2006 at 5:49 pmBurns (singing to Bush): “I only have eyes for you, dear”.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:49 pmIf the plan is kept secret, then Republicans can blame Democrats if it goes wrong without having to explain what it was.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:50 pmThis of course is not me either.
Judd, why are you letting this continue?
October 18th, 2006 at 5:50 pmThat’s it!! I understand!! A TOP SECRET plan means that no one at the TOP knows about it. I’m enlightened!
October 18th, 2006 at 5:50 pmI have only posted in number 1 & 4 and two posts about people using my name.
I will never say anything nice about any of these NeoCons. Moderate conservatives I don’t have a problem with, just the NeoCons.
Judd needs to take care of this problem. It has been going on for a few days now.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:53 pmI thought Bush’s secret super duper hush hush plan for Iraq was to bomb Iran?
October 18th, 2006 at 5:56 pmNixon had a secret plan for winning in Viet Nam in 1972. Josh Lyman told the press corps that Jed Bartlet had a secret plan for fighting inflation. Conrad Burns joins the list.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:56 pmAt the very least, once these name-jacked posts are identified, they should be deleted.
Regular posters should be on the alert and question ANY of the suspicious posts.
October 18th, 2006 at 5:56 pmBurns is probably referring to the obvious – the plan is to invade Iran – and shift the military across the border so they can fight a “real” war, as oppposed to a lost insurgency.
Hey – manybe after Iran, they can even roll over to Afghanistan. Betchya Bin Laden will be around …
October 18th, 2006 at 5:58 pmMy #43 post – I sound like an idiot. Meant to post:
October 18th, 2006 at 6:01 pmNo SANE person supports George Bush and TO Bush, it’s all in his mind.
Secret prisons, secret torture chambers, secret government, secret plans. People are tired of the same old Republican shell games.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:02 pmSpudgeboy – I knew those other comments didn’t sound like something you would post that’s why I questioned if it was sarcasm.
Welcome back. We will protect your good name.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:05 pmThanks CoffinsDrapedWithFlags.
I have a specific way I write and what I write. The regular posters will know what comes from me. I do things like use punctuation and try to spell words as best I can on the fly.
At least the imposter was able to figure out how to copy and paste the URL to my blog.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:09 pmPubs are the fear…
You bet we are tired of their “secrets”.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:10 pmHe is digressing into pre-school children play ground games. I have a secret and I’m not going to share it with you and you don’t know what it is becuase you’re not special like me.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:11 pmAm I alone here in thinking maybe Bush should tell his EMPLOYERS?
Emeny doesn’t tell us their plan? Really? OBL has made his very clear. They happen to be the same as Bush’s
OSAMA/BUSH WORKING FOR THE SAME GOALS
1 – Both have policies which will ultimately bankrupt the US
2 – Both have fighters in the Middle East giving their lives to insure that Muslim Theocracies thrive.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:15 pmSpudgeBoy
I watched the video you posted on your blog. It is so sad that this fool is president. Anyone that voted for him and especially anyone that still supports him, is dumb as dirt. Barb should have aborted him when she had the chance. If only we could turn back the hands of time.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:16 pmDon’t you get it?! Bush has a master plan for turning not only the United States, but all of planet earth into a Utopian wonderland. Sure, everything looks bad now, but it’s really all going exactly as Bush planned. You can’t expect him to reveal what his plans are, because our knowing them would actually cause the plans to backfire. THATs how incredibly sensitive Bush’s master plan is. If we know about, it will fail, and so long as we are kept in the dark about what the plan is the plan will be perfect.
I know I will sleep much better in the bed of ignorance that Glorious Leader BUsh has provided for me.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:17 pmTed kennedy had a secret…so did Nixon …so did John Kennedy……Robert….Bill Clinton….I’m sorry, but when did you get a security clearance to know about war plans….Did you all just think you deserve the right to know everything…think again!…you don’t….
You leftists just look for any damn reason to slander and never think that your own do the same damn thing!!!…and don’t give me the 5k dead in Iraq arguement!…It doesn’t fly with me!
October 18th, 2006 at 6:20 pmthe plan is to have a secret plan or even a secret non-existent plan.
Comment by j+swift — October 18, 2006 @ 5:23 pm
Sounds about right. Are these guys really that STUPID?
October 18th, 2006 at 6:22 pmComment by Harry_S_Natch – - Whadda maroon.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:24 pmWhat bugs me is that the number of “cut and run” Iraqiis continues to grow. Damn it! Don’t they get it that we’re going to give them democracy if it kills every damn one of them!
October 18th, 2006 at 6:29 pmComment by Harry_S_Natch – - Whadda maroon.
Comment by Badmoodman —
Now that’s a response…PFFT!
October 18th, 2006 at 6:35 pmWhy would we give you a 5k dead in Iraq thing. There are almost 3k Americans dead, plus a number of Coalition troops and well over half a million Iraqis. If we told you 5k, we wouldn’t be anywhere near close and wouldn’t be honor all of the fallen dead.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:35 pmI’m sorry, but when did you get a security clearance to know about war plans….Did you all just think you deserve the right to know everything…think again!…you don’t….Comment by Harry_S_Natch — October 18, 2006 @ 6:20 pm
October 18th, 2006 at 6:41 pmSo, you think burns was serious? That they do have a secret plan and if they tell him, he’ll blow it?
What could the secret plan possibly be?????
They want to separate the country into three automimous regions?
They are going to nuke Iraq?
They are going to strike Iran?
They are going to do what Baker wants and negotiate with Iran and Syria to stop hostilities in Iraq?
Do you really think that Bush is even sophisticated enough to have a plan, needless to say, keep it a secret?
Are you High right now?
Are you a total retard?
Or, are you just an A$$Hole?
Hairy Snatch….we don’t care what flies with you and your spaceship from Mars.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:43 pmautonomous regions jacka$$..
October 18th, 2006 at 6:44 pmWhat the hell is a spudgeboy anyway???…Is that a japanese scatfilm lover??…
You are blinded by hate and loathing of something that you can do nothing about except whine on the internet!…You look for any reason to hate the right and ignore any wrongdoings from the left…They are equally guilty and at least a cpl ppl here realise that fact!….
Slam away at me if you will…and I’m sure you will but you’re just doing it outta frustration at your parties shortcomings…
October 18th, 2006 at 6:44 pmMs. Natch,
You do not understand your own government. Anybody who has had any instruction about your governmental structure knows that you CANNOT have a representative government, of which you used to, that is also a closed government. Those concepts are incongruent.
I would suggest that you seek out a closed government society but history has a tendency to dispatch of them, recent examples being the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. What you have to be concerned about, Ms. Natch, is that you are willingly and oddly enthusiastically placing yourself in history’s sights for destruction.
That’s the thing about cowards and fools, they always find a way to defeat themselves. Good luck to you on that.
Peace.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:44 pmHairy Snatch…now get your panties in a twist.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:47 pmOr, are you just an A$$Hole?
Comment by ren — October 18
I’m a realist douchebag…..You started the name calling and I can play with the best of them!!!!
Maybe the Secret Service will open all meetings and documents to the public…As long as they do it for the Clinton years as well ..I’m all for it!!!
October 18th, 2006 at 6:48 pm#71 That must be the lost song by Roger Waters that never made it to his album, ‘Amused to Death’. A miracle!
October 18th, 2006 at 6:50 pmYou are blinded by hate and loathing of something that you can do nothing about except whine on the internet!Comment by Harry_S_Natch — October 18, 2006 @ 6:44 pm
October 18th, 2006 at 6:52 pmI am enlightened and informed by hate and loathing of my government…
I have never been more motivated in my life to change my government and my country…
Why don’t you join us and come on in for the Big Win?
Or are you blinded by your hate and loathing of the Left…?
The Presidunce has forgotten one very important point:
October 18th, 2006 at 6:53 pmHe works for US! We are his BOSS! To govern, he must maintain the consent of the governed and he can only do that if he let’s us in on his “SECRET PLAN!” Burns is truly a moron. I’m surprised he wasn’t chosen by Bush to be his VP. He makes Bush look “smart” (but so do some rocks in my backyard)!
Ms. Natch,
As per my previous post, I can guarantee that you are not a realist. I do wonder why you would call yourself a “douchebag”. You should probably seek professional help to address your self-loathing.
By the way, anyone want to talk about how your “representatives” and your “president” just shredded your constitution and signed away your rights? Or have you all just accepted that?
Just curious.
May peace be with us all.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:53 pmPlans of Democratic Party Now Dominate Iraq Strategy
When the GOP blows its false trumpet and hollers that the Dems have no plans for Iraq I suggest they first bite down on the following sentence.
“Redeployment” is now the leading strategy for Iraq with a bipartisan world-wide cast coming on board.
Jack Murtha, a Democrat, at some personal political risk announced that “our presence in Iraq has become the cause, not the cure, for much of the violence.” This has now been openly confirmed by many others, including the presently serving United Kingdom Army Chief of Staff.
Murtha’s wisdom is now a major policy plank for an Iraq solution.
Murtha, a Democrat, was the first to call for implementation of a plan to “redeploy.” This, a Democrat plan, is becoming the majority opinion strategy for Iraq.
Joe Biden, a Democrat, was the first major political figure to forcefully call for a partition plan for Iraq, a Tri-Part solution. This too has, in various forms, become an operational force in solving the internecine Iraqi violence.
When Joe Lieberman and the GOP attempt to paint Democrats as weak on terror and having no plans for Iraq solutions it only serves as a continuing illustration of their bankrupt and inept foreign policy.
“Stay the Course” has put our Troops in harm’s way. “Stay the Course” has hamstrung our now openly angry and frustrated Military leadership. “Stay the Course” has now been openly exposed for what it is, a disingenuous mantra employed by Joe Lieberman and the GOP for political gain.
Democrats have changed the debate and the strategy for Iraq.
They will continue to seek honest open and considered strategies for Iraq and the War on Terror. They will not substitute political sound bites for strategy. In pursuing the War on Terror, they will also not emasculate the honest work product of the CIA, the Joint Chiefs and the State Department for political power.
October 18th, 2006 at 6:56 pmGeneral Custer: : Don’t worry Major Reno, the Indians are in their last throes here at the Little Big Horn.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:00 pm
Run and cut…
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
That damn Burns…
…what a funny guy!
October 18th, 2006 at 7:01 pmI’m a realist douchebag…..
October 18th, 2006 at 7:02 pmI didn’t know there was such a thing as a “Realist-Douchebag”.
Is there a “Realist-Douchebag” party in government?
Are you senator S. Natch (RD) Realist-Douchebag Party Chairman?
You started the name calling and I can play with the best of them!!!!
Name calling? What are you going to cry?
Am I calling you Dirty Little Names?
I asked you a series of questions… One of them being, “are you an A$$Hole?”
I guess I have the answer to that now, don’t I?
maybe god has told bush about a plan for iraq, hopefully it won’t be another plan that will slaughter more women and babies.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:04 pmBush does have a secret plan… but he is waiting for God to give it to him.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:09 pmalright guys,
burns no need to worry. he is going to get smoked in montana. when dickhead cheney has to come to montana and campaign for you along with repub. rheberg and only 150 show up for you festival. that’s a problem.
montana told all 3 of them to go f. yourself.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:11 pmOctober 18th, 2006 at 7:13 pm
I am heartened to see all the debate audiences laugh at these clowns. I’ve seen 3 or 4 of these debates and the Repubs say the stupidist things and are laughed out of the room….
October 18th, 2006 at 7:13 pmBriseadh+na+Faire
October 18th, 2006 at 7:16 pmI said that already….
“He has a plan but just isn’t telling everyone” is yet another variation on Bush’s “trust me” theme. But like all of Bush’s plans, the planning process ends once the taxpayers’ money has been transferred to all the right bank accounts. Mission accomplished!
Bushian loyalty is no virtue–it’s the loyalty of thieves
October 18th, 2006 at 7:19 pmWell, that’s a secret. Just like Conrad Burns, I have a secret and you don’t know what it is. I have shared it with everybody here but you. Too bad, so sad, gotta go home and cry to your dad.
And you outta spend a little more time reading and less time attacking. If you did, you would know that I am not a lefty. Ha ha. Jokes on you again.
Just because I hate the right doesn’t make me left.
Just because I don’t support the war in Iraq (I support the one in Afghanistan) doesn’t mean I don’t support the troops.
Just because I don’t support the president doesn’t mean I don’t support the USA.
You are a right wing retard that sees everything in black and white. Everything is grey moron.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:21 pmNixon’s secret plan in 1968 was to accept the advice of Henry Kissinger and, after elected, to bomb the hell out of Cambodia. Bush’s so-called secret plan is to allow himself to be used by the neoconservatives and to listen to them by accepting their advice by bombing Iran, possibly before the 2006 elections.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:21 pm…And Nixon had a “secret plan” to end the Vietnam war too. Turned out that the secret was that there never was a plan.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:22 pm91 – great minds think alike!
October 18th, 2006 at 7:22 pmThis is why Bush won in 2000.
Go to: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3630
October 18th, 2006 at 7:26 pmand (after reading the article etc) click on the video clips button about halfway down the screen. It’s self-explanatory.
Ya know, It’s like a Colbert episode but in reverse…
October 18th, 2006 at 7:30 pmWith Colbert we have grown to know that he is kidding with his pretending to be republican.
But with Burns everyone in the audience thinks he is kidding and is laughing as if he telling a joke or kidding around…but he is dead serious. Later you hear the crowd murmuring…I think they are saying to each other,”This guy’s kidding right?” They do this right after he accuses Jon Tester of,”he’s going to go out and blow it..”
This guy Burns, is f#cking nuts…
I’ll repeat myself – the PLAN is to get the oil contract finalized by the end of the year and then we can “cut and run”. Cheney/Bush/Rumsfeld cartel does not want us to know, even though we already knew it, that the real reason we invaded Iraq was for the oil.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:30 pm91 – great minds think alike!….
October 18th, 2006 at 7:32 pmI think you read my mind…
Humanist – we are all well aware of what just happened in Washington to the writ of Habeas Corpus and we don’t like it and we will be doing something about it by changing the makeup of Congress on November 7. After all, the Military Commissions Act of 2006 is nothing more than a “goddamn piece of paper” and if we survive until January, we can begin to re-write this bill and call it the Military Commissions Act of 2007.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:36 pmren
but what is even sadder montana elected this crackbox for 4 terms. i don’t think he has a chance come november.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:36 pmbs – yeah and PA elected Ricky Rooster Santorum TWICE, also and Ricky just doesn’t understand why his popularity just keeps dropping in PA. Keep talking Ricky because with every word that Ricky says, the less people will vote for him.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:41 pmbut what is even sadder montana elected this crackbox for 4 terms. i don’t think he has a chance come november.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:43 pmComment by bs — October 18, 2006 @ 7:36 pm
Your post took 5 minuts to post 7:41
Do me a favor and lets do a “Posting test”
As soon as you get my remarks, check the time and post it back to me…
(You’ll have to refresh every 30 seconds or so)
Then when I get yours I’ll post it back to you… we’ll do it three times each.. this one will be # sending at 7:46 now…*
102 bs—ya but was Montana a red, blue or purple state?
October 18th, 2006 at 7:44 pmConrad Burns, Ricky Rooster Santorum, and George Allen have the “stupid-mouth disease”. Read that the GOP told George Allen to keep his mouth shut. It’s difficult to campaign with duct tape across the lips.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:45 pmbut what is even sadder montana elected this crackbox for 4 terms. i don’t think he has a chance come november.
Comment by bs — October 18, 2006 @ 7:36 pm
Your post took 5 minuts to post 7:41
Do me a favor and lets do a “Posting testâ€
As soon as you get my remarks, check the time and post it back to me…
(You’ll have to refresh every 30 seconds or so)
Then when I get yours I’ll post it back to you… we’ll do it three times each.. this one will be # sending at 7:46 now…*
Comment by ren — October 18, 2006 @ 7:43 pm
mt. time it is now 1748
October 18th, 2006 at 7:46 pmren – it does seem to take a great deal of time to post.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:46 pm105
it bleeeeeeeds red.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:47 pm7:50 ,,,yes it sucks
October 18th, 2006 at 7:48 pmIf it’s taking a long time to post, maybe the NSA is channeling my comments. I told my daughter to tell her son that her gmum was a true patriot :) (when they haul me away for thinking freely).
October 18th, 2006 at 7:48 pmit took about 5 min. for yours to post.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:50 pmBleeds red, Hmmmm…. 3rd time’s a charm whats the 4th insanity….
October 18th, 2006 at 7:50 pm“Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice,,,,, we cant get fooled again”
7:53
October 18th, 2006 at 7:51 pmwe all better be good kids before we’re are deemed ‘enemy combatants’ and shipped off to foreign land blind folded and then…………….silenced forever.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:52 pmthe cowboys need to cowboy up and shiiiite kickin’ at the polls.
October 18th, 2006 at 7:53 pmWhoa man! That last line is a zinger!! I thought Conrad would never shut up and would just keep spouting off, but Tester put him in his place!!
That C. Burns is an embarrassment. I’ve never met anyone from Montana but I’m sure they can find someone better to represent them than that douch.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:02 pmSecret Plan–does it have anything to do with sharks with friggin’ laser beams on their heads?
October 18th, 2006 at 8:05 pmConrad Burns Says Bush Has A Plan For Iraq, But ‘He’s Not Going To Tell Everyone In The World’
Someone has to tell Bush first what his plan is.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:07 pmSecret Plan–does it have anything to do with sharks with friggin’ laser beams on their heads?
Comment by pbg
No ocean in Iraq, so it must be sand sharks, yeah thats it….
Or maybe the Mars Robots are on standby.
What a secret plan he has got there…..
Beats running into doors that won’t open in frontof an audience.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:24 pm/snark off
Secret plan = CUT AND RUN.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:49 pmSecret plan: Do absolutely nothing.
October 18th, 2006 at 9:22 pmI love how TP removes my comments.
October 18th, 2006 at 9:29 pmDoesn’t the Bush administration do this also?
You lost a customer…
Anyone concerned about Habeas Corpus? Police State? George Bush defecating on the US Constitution? Anyone?
http://www.getsomejosh.com
October 18th, 2006 at 10:24 pmAs a teacher of some 34 years it is deplorable that we have bozos like Burns who butcher the English language. Burns is payed many times more than I, as a teacher, ever received and he can not even speak the English language.
October 18th, 2006 at 10:33 pm[...] AUDIO: Conrad Burns Says Bush Has A Plan For Iraq, But He s …Think Progress, DC - 5 hours ago… Tester, Sen. Conrad Burns (R-MT) took offense at the suggestion that President Bush has no real plan for victory in Iraq. Burns … [...]
October 18th, 2006 at 10:40 pm#65 Harry S Natch
You leftists just look for any damn reason to slander and never think that your own do the same damn thing!!!
Give an example of a Democrat who said he couldn’t tell anyone what his secret plan for anything was due to national security concerns.
You sound frustrated. Are you starting to get worried?
October 18th, 2006 at 10:42 pmI just sent in my absentee ballot marked Tester. Montana is well in hand, my friends. Tester is well up in the latest polls. Montana will finally be rid of that hayseed. And that brand of ‘English’ that Burns uses is not in common usage here in Montana. He has a Missouri accent, and seems to think that Montanans appreciate his disengenuous bumkin charade. Real Montanans sound more like Mike Mansfield or Chet Huntley (or Dana Carvey when he is not impersonating Bush I (or, sadly, Brent Musberger)). I expect Tester will make a fine Senator.
October 18th, 2006 at 10:45 pmOnly plan Bush has for Iraq is to make it worse! Time to pull the troops out of Iraq and to impeach Dubya Dunce for war crimes!
October 18th, 2006 at 11:25 pmAs I see it, the enemy of decency in the world is the power of large anonomously held bank accounts, say of over $10,000,000US. This is a lot of power. The power that strems from this anonomous wealth is passed on from gerneration to generation, from corporate board to corporate board, and from crook to crook. It is imperative, to claim justice, that we know who exactly wheels this power. Therefore, a fair and just society cannot tolerate that they persons holding these bank accounts remain anonomous.
The paramount enemy to well being and justice in the world is the inherited power of the undeserving.
The anonomous bank accounts in Switzerland and Liechenstein are the most serious threat posed by humans against humans. Who deposited and how much has been deposited into these bank accounts from the spoils in Iraq. How many of these depositors are in the hands of the larges American contractors?
We are still waiting for the October surprise Bushbaby promised us? I expect that it will be a major strike against “an enemy” (excluding himself). The stike will reinforce his stance that he is a “War President.” Goodbye election!
Now what will the American people do?
Remember Bushco is sure to have its wealth stashed in Liechenstein, Switzerland, Dubai, China, and Saudi Arabia.
Shouldn’t America consider bombing Liechenstein and Switzerland first?
October 18th, 2006 at 11:42 pmThere is no secret plan. The plan is overt. Bomb Iran and focus all forces there. Hence, no more attention provided to the disaster in Iraq.
Hell, they’ve been advertising this for about a year. Damned nepcon philosphy.
October 19th, 2006 at 12:00 amA secret plan?
Please. Are there any adults in this Republican Congress?
October 19th, 2006 at 1:34 amAh, yes. And I’ve invented a device to run our automobiles without gasoline. It’s cheap, clean, and is made using a special blend of Butch Wax and cod liver oil with a q-tip.
But, you don’t think I’m going to tell the world, do you?
October 19th, 2006 at 1:46 am“COURSE WE DON’T PUT OUR PLAN INTA ACTION, THAT’D JUST BE PLUM STUPID. ENEMY’D KNOW ALL BOUT IT THEN.”
He’s rambling…
October 19th, 2006 at 1:59 amPerhaps Burns should focus his attention on his secret plan to save the GOP from tomorrow’s news about JERRY WELLER, (R) Ill. ….
October 19th, 2006 at 2:34 amI noticed the numbering on this site changing. People are replying to numbers on posts that haven’t occurred in the post yet. Your TP (Toilet Paper) site is editing, removing or should I say censoring our conversations. Boy, your left wing agenda site is showing its true colors now. Here is an example -
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/16/swift-detainee-bill/#comments
#48 replies to #51
#52 and #53 both reply to #61
#56 to #64
So much for free thought and discussion. You people are a joke.
October 19th, 2006 at 8:20 amBurns get Burned in ‘06!
October 19th, 2006 at 9:35 am-Film at 11:00
Burns is an idiot who will be playing with his grandchildren in January.
October 19th, 2006 at 9:55 ambs #88
That’s GREAT NEWS!
October 19th, 2006 at 9:56 am[...] Conrad Burns is a piece of doody. [...]
October 19th, 2006 at 10:09 am#136 Happy Guy
I noticed the numbering on this site changing. People are replying to numbers on posts that haven’t occurred in the post yet. Your TP (Toilet Paper) site is editing, removing or should I say censoring our conversations. Boy, your left wing agenda site is showing its true colors now. Here is an example -
That’s the problem with typically uninformed but outspoken right-wingers. They may not know why something is so, but they don’t hesitate to show their ignorance with a bogus explanation and then heap insults on top of it.
The numbering changed because someone posted several times using another person’s alias (SpudgeBoy) with the intention of making everyone think that person was suddenly embracing the idiocy of the Bush administration. The offending posts were removed. If the assclown who had posted them (You, perhaps?) under another person’s name had simply used his own instead, they wouldn’t have been removed.
Sorry to shoot down your little fantasy.
October 19th, 2006 at 10:59 ammaybe the chimp is awaiting further instructions from god.
October 19th, 2006 at 12:15 pmMy fantasy and bogus explination? Then you say I did it! Who just made something up?
Guess you just shot yourself down.
October 19th, 2006 at 3:11 pmIt is sometimes a strength to not reveal one’s strategy. But with time it becomes evident whether one has a strategy or if it is being made up along the way. My view is that the President did not put in the necessary effort and time IN THE BEGINNING to come up with a comprehensive strategy that serves national interests.
October 19th, 2006 at 6:52 pmBurns is an incredible idiot. How can he have 47% in the polls? If he wins… the people of Montana deserve him.
November 6th, 2006 at 12:47 amThis is like 3rd grade. Imagine a bully says to you “your dad sucks, he doesn’t even have a motorcycle!” And you respond, “Uh..ah..yes he does…a great big one with chrome!” even though it doesn’t exist. I don’t think Bush’s secret plan exists either. The “You’re either with us or against us” plan doesn’t work so hot with several warring factions/ethnicities in the same country.
November 26th, 2006 at 2:44 am