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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1010275</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops..forgot ABC..........not worth it, no one watches anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops..forgot ABC&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.not worth it, no one watches anyway.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1010275', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1010272</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deflated America .......gone.

PMSNBC.....................next.

CBS............................next

NBC............................next

FOX News.................Still going strong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deflated America &#8230;&#8230;.gone.</p>
<p>PMSNBC&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;next.</p>
<p>CBS&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.next</p>
<p>NBC&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.next</p>
<p>FOX News&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..Still going strong.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1010272', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1010267</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey GSD.

The people that endorse your party are like the 140 criminals that Clinton pardoned just before he left office.  

You might think first before you throw your stones.

Clinton&#039;s   

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm


Bush&#039;s 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_George_W._Bush</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey GSD.</p>
<p>The people that endorse your party are like the 140 criminals that Clinton pardoned just before he left office.  </p>
<p>You might think first before you throw your stones.</p>
<p>Clinton&#8217;s   </p>
<p><a href="http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm</a></p>
<p>Bush&#8217;s </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_George_W._Bush" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_George_W._Bush</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1010267', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1008598</link>
		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;His Rune is Wisdom: Reversed. Ironically, thatâ€™s the same Rune that came up for President Bush.
Comment by Briseadh+na+Faire &lt;/em&gt;

Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>His Rune is Wisdom: Reversed. Ironically, thatâ€™s the same Rune that came up for President Bush.<br />
Comment by Briseadh+na+Faire </em></p>
<p>Heh.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1008598', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exley</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1007585</link>
		<dc:creator>Exley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#75 Good night, Jane. Say &quot;hi&quot; to Wayne...Hopefully, we will be celebrating tonight.

LET&#039;S GO METS!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#75 Good night, Jane. Say &#8220;hi&#8221; to Wayne&#8230;Hopefully, we will be celebrating tonight.</p>
<p>LET&#8217;S GO METS!!!!!!!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1007585', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exley</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1007582</link>
		<dc:creator>Exley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#72, Ah....I see (like so many others here) you have not read the legislation.

Here ya go, Slick:

Sec. 948a. Definitions


`(2) LAWFUL ENEMY COMBATANT- The term `lawful enemy combatant&#039; means a person who is--

`(A) a member of the regular forces of a State party engaged in hostilities against the United States;

`(B) a member of a militia, volunteer corps, or organized resistance movement belonging to a State party engaged in such hostilities, which are under responsible command, wear a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance, carry their arms openly, and abide by the law of war; or

`(C) a member of a regular armed force who professes allegiance to a government engaged in such hostilities, but not recognized by the United States.

As for who makes that determination, that is the function of the Combatant Status Review Tribunal, which is a military tribunal designed to determine whether an individual is properly detained as an enemy combatant. 

If the tribunal determines that he may be detained, then the individual may appeal that decision to the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#72, Ah&#8230;.I see (like so many others here) you have not read the legislation.</p>
<p>Here ya go, Slick:</p>
<p>Sec. 948a. Definitions</p>
<p>`(2) LAWFUL ENEMY COMBATANT- The term `lawful enemy combatant&#8217; means a person who is&#8211;</p>
<p>`(A) a member of the regular forces of a State party engaged in hostilities against the United States;</p>
<p>`(B) a member of a militia, volunteer corps, or organized resistance movement belonging to a State party engaged in such hostilities, which are under responsible command, wear a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance, carry their arms openly, and abide by the law of war; or</p>
<p>`(C) a member of a regular armed force who professes allegiance to a government engaged in such hostilities, but not recognized by the United States.</p>
<p>As for who makes that determination, that is the function of the Combatant Status Review Tribunal, which is a military tribunal designed to determine whether an individual is properly detained as an enemy combatant. </p>
<p>If the tribunal determines that he may be detained, then the individual may appeal that decision to the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1007582', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JaneESchneider</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1007566</link>
		<dc:creator>JaneESchneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exley, I have to leave early, so I&#039;ll say &quot;Good Night, Good Luck, and Let&#039;s Go Mets&quot; now.   I&#039;ll be back tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exley, I have to leave early, so I&#8217;ll say &#8220;Good Night, Good Luck, and Let&#8217;s Go Mets&#8221; now.   I&#8217;ll be back tomorrow.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1007566', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exley</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1007553</link>
		<dc:creator>Exley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#73..Don&#039;t feel bad that I have had to explain all this to you. You are still learning. You&#039;re an amateur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#73..Don&#8217;t feel bad that I have had to explain all this to you. You are still learning. You&#8217;re an amateur.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1007553', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Briseadh+na+Faire</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1007539</link>
		<dc:creator>Briseadh+na+Faire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Papa, I wonder what motivates a person to make consistently wrong arguments. Is it a desperate need for attention, even negative attention? Or has the person prostituted himself for a paycheck?

In either case, responding merely keeps them coming back for more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Papa, I wonder what motivates a person to make consistently wrong arguments. Is it a desperate need for attention, even negative attention? Or has the person prostituted himself for a paycheck?</p>
<p>In either case, responding merely keeps them coming back for more.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1007539', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: big+papa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1007486</link>
		<dc:creator>big+papa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ex(crement) #65

1) Please define (relative to this so-called war on terror)...

...&quot;a lawful enemy combatant&quot;...

2) Please explain...

...who gets to make that determination?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ex(crement) #65</p>
<p>1) Please define (relative to this so-called war on terror)&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8221;a lawful enemy combatant&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>2) Please explain&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;who gets to make that determination?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1007486', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Briseadh na Faire</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1007400</link>
		<dc:creator>Briseadh na Faire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, if the Government arrests you and falsely claims you are not a citizen, what rights do you have to challenge that determination? NONE.

&quot;A finding...by a Combatant Status Review Tribual or another competent tribunal established under the authority of the President or the Secretary of Defense that a person is an unlawful enemy combatant&lt;strong&gt; is dispositive &lt;/strong&gt;for the purposes of jurisdiction for trial by military commission under this chapter.&quot;

That means you cannot challenge that determination, if and when it is made. 

And if the Government says a person is an alien, and that person is never allowed a hearing to challenge that determination, you could be locked up for the rest of your natural life, without charges, and subjected to treatment that has already been determined to violate international law.

But Bush can declare that smearing you with your own feces is not degrading; that piling you naked with other detainees is not degrading; that chaining you naked to a dog collar is not degrading; that all of these comport with international law, as he interprets it.

None of the methods used to elicit evidence from detainees is being revealed as a &quot;national security&quot; issue. How will we ever know if detainees are ever tortured? How will we ever know if someone is subjected to the rack, the iron maiden, disembowelment? If someone is injected with drugs? If someone dies in a secret prison? We won&#039;t. That information is &quot;classified.&quot;

Bush now has despotic powers. Only a fool would trust in the benevolence of a dictator.  Recall the image of Bush, crawling under his desk in a mock search for WMD&#039;s.  THIS is who Congress has given despotic powers to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, if the Government arrests you and falsely claims you are not a citizen, what rights do you have to challenge that determination? NONE.</p>
<p>&#8220;A finding&#8230;by a Combatant Status Review Tribual or another competent tribunal established under the authority of the President or the Secretary of Defense that a person is an unlawful enemy combatant<strong> is dispositive </strong>for the purposes of jurisdiction for trial by military commission under this chapter.&#8221;</p>
<p>That means you cannot challenge that determination, if and when it is made. </p>
<p>And if the Government says a person is an alien, and that person is never allowed a hearing to challenge that determination, you could be locked up for the rest of your natural life, without charges, and subjected to treatment that has already been determined to violate international law.</p>
<p>But Bush can declare that smearing you with your own feces is not degrading; that piling you naked with other detainees is not degrading; that chaining you naked to a dog collar is not degrading; that all of these comport with international law, as he interprets it.</p>
<p>None of the methods used to elicit evidence from detainees is being revealed as a &#8220;national security&#8221; issue. How will we ever know if detainees are ever tortured? How will we ever know if someone is subjected to the rack, the iron maiden, disembowelment? If someone is injected with drugs? If someone dies in a secret prison? We won&#8217;t. That information is &#8220;classified.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bush now has despotic powers. Only a fool would trust in the benevolence of a dictator.  Recall the image of Bush, crawling under his desk in a mock search for WMD&#8217;s.  THIS is who Congress has given despotic powers to.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1007400', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exley</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1007368</link>
		<dc:creator>Exley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I mentioned, when the Nazi saboteurs were catured in the U.S., they were not wearing uniforms. As Chief Justice Stone wrote in the Qurin decision, &quot;Immediately after landing they buried their uniforms and the other articles mentioned and proceeded in civilian dress to New York City.&quot; 

&quot;By a long course of practical administrative construction by its military authorities, &lt;strong&gt;our Government has recognized that those who during time of war pass surreptitiously from enemy territory into our own, discarding their uniforms upon entry, for the commission of hostile acts involving destruction of life or property, have the status of unlawful combatants &lt;/strong&gt;punishable as such by military commission. This precept of the law of war has been so recognized in practice both here and abroad, and has so generally been accepted as valid by authorities on international law that we think it must be regarded as a rule or principle of the law of war recognized by this Government by its enactment of the Fifteenth Article of War.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I mentioned, when the Nazi saboteurs were catured in the U.S., they were not wearing uniforms. As Chief Justice Stone wrote in the Qurin decision, &#8220;Immediately after landing they buried their uniforms and the other articles mentioned and proceeded in civilian dress to New York City.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;By a long course of practical administrative construction by its military authorities, <strong>our Government has recognized that those who during time of war pass surreptitiously from enemy territory into our own, discarding their uniforms upon entry, for the commission of hostile acts involving destruction of life or property, have the status of unlawful combatants </strong>punishable as such by military commission. This precept of the law of war has been so recognized in practice both here and abroad, and has so generally been accepted as valid by authorities on international law that we think it must be regarded as a rule or principle of the law of war recognized by this Government by its enactment of the Fifteenth Article of War.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1007368', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exley</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1007340</link>
		<dc:creator>Exley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#66 PLC,

It was not Bush was messed with it. It was the Supreme Court. Bush, in his capacity as Commander-in-Chief (using, in part, the example provided by FDR when he established military commissions during WWII) and as implicitly authorized by Congress&#039; 9/18/2001 AUMF, ordered the establishment of military commissions for use during the War On Terror. 

In the &lt;em&gt;Hamdan&lt;/em&gt; decision, the Supreme Court decided (erroneously, in my opinion) that even though FDR (and other president, such as Lincoln) had created military commissions, which had tried and convicted unlawful enemy combatants, including U.S. citizens, Bush did not have the constitutional authority as President to create such commissions without specific congressional approval. (The administration had argued that the president in his constitutional role as C-in-C and the AUMF provided all the necessary authorization to create such commissions. A majority of the Court disagreed). Thus, in keeping with the direction provided by the Supreme Court in the Hamdan decision, the Bush administration went to Congress and asked for specific, explict approval of the military commissions. This the Congress did when it passed the MCA, which the president signed this week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#66 PLC,</p>
<p>It was not Bush was messed with it. It was the Supreme Court. Bush, in his capacity as Commander-in-Chief (using, in part, the example provided by FDR when he established military commissions during WWII) and as implicitly authorized by Congress&#8217; 9/18/2001 AUMF, ordered the establishment of military commissions for use during the War On Terror. </p>
<p>In the <em>Hamdan</em> decision, the Supreme Court decided (erroneously, in my opinion) that even though FDR (and other president, such as Lincoln) had created military commissions, which had tried and convicted unlawful enemy combatants, including U.S. citizens, Bush did not have the constitutional authority as President to create such commissions without specific congressional approval. (The administration had argued that the president in his constitutional role as C-in-C and the AUMF provided all the necessary authorization to create such commissions. A majority of the Court disagreed). Thus, in keeping with the direction provided by the Supreme Court in the Hamdan decision, the Bush administration went to Congress and asked for specific, explict approval of the military commissions. This the Congress did when it passed the MCA, which the president signed this week.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1007340', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1007288</link>
		<dc:creator>PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>65 Exley

It seems that you just provided evidence that what we had worked.  So why is BushCo messing with it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>65 Exley</p>
<p>It seems that you just provided evidence that what we had worked.  So why is BushCo messing with it?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1007288', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exley</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1007215</link>
		<dc:creator>Exley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#52 PLC, Actually the Quirin decision dealt with the issue of unlawful enemy combatants (Nazi saboteurs) captured on U.S. soil (including an American citizen). They were not lawful combatants captured in uniform on the battlefield.

Moreover, the MCA specifically and explicitly states that military commissions have no jurisdiction over captured lawful combatants: 

Sec. 948d: &lt;strong&gt;Jurisdiction of military commissions&lt;/strong&gt;`

(b) Lawful Enemy Combatants- Military commissions under this chapter shall not have jurisdiction over lawful enemy combatants</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#52 PLC, Actually the Quirin decision dealt with the issue of unlawful enemy combatants (Nazi saboteurs) captured on U.S. soil (including an American citizen). They were not lawful combatants captured in uniform on the battlefield.</p>
<p>Moreover, the MCA specifically and explicitly states that military commissions have no jurisdiction over captured lawful combatants: </p>
<p>Sec. 948d: <strong>Jurisdiction of military commissions</strong>`</p>
<p>(b) Lawful Enemy Combatants- Military commissions under this chapter shall not have jurisdiction over lawful enemy combatants<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1007215', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: KikiD</title>
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		<dc:creator>KikiD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is Bush buying land in Paruguay (sp)?  Isn&#039;t that one of the places the Nazis ran to after WWII?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is Bush buying land in Paruguay (sp)?  Isn&#8217;t that one of the places the Nazis ran to after WWII?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1007209', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exley</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1007178</link>
		<dc:creator>Exley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#58, Bruce...You have put your finger on why the hysteria over the Military Commissions Act and its habeas corpus provisions are overblown. As pointed out earlier, the MCA habeas corpus provisions apply only to alien unlawful enemy combatants. That is crystal clear from the language of the statute. Now, you request that it out to you &quot;who a US Citizen could appeal to if he or she got taken.&quot;

That issue has already been decided by the U.S. Supreme Court in Hamdi v. Rumsfeld, 542 U.S. 507 (2004), in which the Court held that U.S. citizens held as enemy combatants cannot be held indefinitely without be afforded due process protections, as well as the right to petition for a writ of habeas corpus. Because the MCA leaves the Hamdi decision undisturbed, it remain the law of the land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#58, Bruce&#8230;You have put your finger on why the hysteria over the Military Commissions Act and its habeas corpus provisions are overblown. As pointed out earlier, the MCA habeas corpus provisions apply only to alien unlawful enemy combatants. That is crystal clear from the language of the statute. Now, you request that it out to you &#8220;who a US Citizen could appeal to if he or she got taken.&#8221;</p>
<p>That issue has already been decided by the U.S. Supreme Court in Hamdi v. Rumsfeld, 542 U.S. 507 (2004), in which the Court held that U.S. citizens held as enemy combatants cannot be held indefinitely without be afforded due process protections, as well as the right to petition for a writ of habeas corpus. Because the MCA leaves the Hamdi decision undisturbed, it remain the law of the land.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1007178', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would think that a man as patriotic (or attempting to appear so patriotic) as Rep. John Peterson (R-PA) would know not to wear the American Flag as apparel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would think that a man as patriotic (or attempting to appear so patriotic) as Rep. John Peterson (R-PA) would know not to wear the American Flag as apparel.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1007036', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JaneESchneider</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1006937</link>
		<dc:creator>JaneESchneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bris, I don&#039;t trust this president to even be able to pronounce the word &quot;Constitution&quot; without stumbling, of course I don&#039;t trust him to uphold any of our rights.  He is a pathological liar, and his administration and spokespeople lie to us every day.  Keith is right, this is the beginning of the end of America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bris, I don&#8217;t trust this president to even be able to pronounce the word &#8220;Constitution&#8221; without stumbling, of course I don&#8217;t trust him to uphold any of our rights.  He is a pathological liar, and his administration and spokespeople lie to us every day.  Keith is right, this is the beginning of the end of America.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1006937', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Briseadh+na+Faire</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/19/thinkfast-october-19-2006/comment-page-2/#comment-1006923</link>
		<dc:creator>Briseadh+na+Faire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane, and if they had &quot;classified evidence&quot; which &quot;proved&quot; you were not a U.S. citizen, you could be held for the rest of your natural life as an alien, pending a determination of whether or not you even were an unlawful enemy combatant.

Clearly&lt;em&gt; legal&lt;/em&gt; immigrants have lost their Constitutional protections.  Attorney General Gonzalez didn&#039;t even bother to address my question on the issue.

The question is, how much do you trust a President who lied to get us into a war, who has already violated the Constitution and International Law, how much do you trust Him to uphold any of your rights?


*** crickets chirping ***</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, and if they had &#8220;classified evidence&#8221; which &#8220;proved&#8221; you were not a U.S. citizen, you could be held for the rest of your natural life as an alien, pending a determination of whether or not you even were an unlawful enemy combatant.</p>
<p>Clearly<em> legal</em> immigrants have lost their Constitutional protections.  Attorney General Gonzalez didn&#8217;t even bother to address my question on the issue.</p>
<p>The question is, how much do you trust a President who lied to get us into a war, who has already violated the Constitution and International Law, how much do you trust Him to uphold any of your rights?</p>
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