Bush: ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’
Bush: ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’
During an interview today on ABC’s This Week, President Bush tried to distance himself from what has been his core strategy in Iraq for the last three years. George Stephanopoulos asked about James Baker’s plan to develop a strategy for Iraq that is “between ’stay the course’ and ‘cut and run.’”
Bush responded, ‘We’ve never been stay the course, George!’ Watch it:
Bush is wrong:
BUSH: We will stay the course. [8/30/06]
BUSH: We will stay the course, we will complete the job in Iraq. [8/4/05]
BUSH: We will stay the course until the job is done, Steve. And the temptation is to try to get the President or somebody to put a timetable on the definition of getting the job done. We’re just going to stay the course. [12/15/03]
BUSH: And my message today to those in Iraq is: We’ll stay the course. [4/13/04]
BUSH: And that’s why we’re going to stay the course in Iraq. And that’s why when we say something in Iraq, we’re going to do it. [4/16/04]
BUSH: And so we’ve got tough action in Iraq. But we will stay the course. [4/5/04]
Full transcript:
STEPHANOPOULOS: James Baker says that he’s looking for something between “cut and run” and “stay the course.”
BUSH: Well, hey, listen, we’ve never been “stay the course,” George. We have been — we will complete the mission, we will do our job, and help achieve the goal, but we’re constantly adjusting to tactics. Constantly.
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Hmmm. Must have been Steve Bridges going around saying “Stay the course.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:51 amjust when you think it can’t get any more ridiculous.
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:51 amthe man is a joke.
I honestly believe he is clinically delusional.
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:52 amBill Clinton must have been the one saying it.
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:54 amHe is speaking to the “Dummys” who believe that idiot. Wow
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:55 amIs Bush so stupid that he can’t remember what he says? He was like a parrot with one line, “Stay the course. Stay the course. Stay the course. Squawk!”
I’ve been thinking…Before the Iraq War there were portions of both parties that opposed the war because they predicted basically exactly what has happened, progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans. Now we have this Iraq study group led by Jim Baker and a group that doesn’t have any of those types of party members in it. Do we really think that the portions of the political parties that couldn’t visualize the Iraq mess to actually be able to come up with a solution? I suggest an Iraq study group that has progressive Democrats such as Dennis Kucinich (OH) and libertarian Republicans such as Ron Paul (TX) and give them a chance to come up with a solution. They were right once, they have history on their side.
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:58 amIs shrub really SERIOUS?! Where does he think we Americans have been for the past three years, hiding under a rock?!
Apparently, he does.
Un-freakin-believeable.
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:59 amYes, we have….to the detriment of ourselves and the Iraqi people. Have we no conscience left? Repeating mistakes only amplifies the mistake; repeating destructive behavior(s) only entrenches those destructive behaviors deeper….unfortunately, I have to agree with Bush this time: We have stayed the course…..and where has it gotten anyone?? The blood of not only our own military but the Iraqi citizens is now on the hands of this country. Can’t imagine what the karma of these horrors will be?
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:01 amRules of GOP logic:
War is peace.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:01 amWrong is right.
Up is down.
Death is life.
Lies are truth.
Bill Clinton did it.
Why doesn’t anything make any sense at all anymore? Even under Reagan, you sometimes had glimpses of sanity. But maybe something’s is wrong with _me_
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:02 amLet’s put these film clips together and make another Democrat campaign video!
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:03 amBush is only in the middle of rewriting history per 1984 newspeak.
“Stay the course, stay the course, stay the course.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:04 am“I never said stay the course.”
“We have changed course throughout the war. We have changed course. We have changed course.”
Why does George always look so squirmy wormy with his head cocked one way or another? Looks as if he has no spine whatsoever.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:05 amBush is nipping at the bottle again…
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:05 am#11…and run the video on FoxNews.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:06 am“just when you think it can’t get any more ridiculous.
the man is a joke.” by Jim
absolutely
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:07 amBush can’t distance himself from his own stink because the pile of shit he stepped in and that’s stuck to the bottom of his shoes is his own. Iraq is his mess and his failure and will be his preaidential legacy. A legacy of failure.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:10 amBut did Stephanopoulos quote back to him times when he did say stay the course? Oh hell, it wouldn’t matter, he’d say, of course we said that because blahblahblah.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:12 amMan that fish just jumped in the boat! Might as well head off to brunch and call it a day huh?
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:12 amAh, but Poppy Bu$h and his cronies are building the ultimate “back door” for GDumbya right now. FoxSnooze is even playing its part in this little dance.
The foundation is now being laid for the final and definitive resolution of GDumbya’s political and military fiasco — “it’s Bremer’s and Maliki’s fault”.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:13 amThey should have followed that clip with all their clips of him saying ’stay the course’. Bushleague must be counting on America’s five-minute attention span that they won’t remember all the lies.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:13 amTWO WORDS – “ANIMAL FARM”
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:16 am[...] Empty words [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:17 amANOTHER TWO WORDS – FLIP FLOPPER
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:17 amThis idiot makes me want to scream “My brain hurts!” Next, he’ll be telling us he did find the WMD’s — as suicide bombers. Picture Jon Stewart in his best Bushie impression: “Ya see, those car bombs, they’re destroying the masses. 600,000, that mass destruction of the masses right there.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:18 amONE IRREFUTABLE WORD – LIAR
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:18 amJust when you think the bar can’t possibly be set any lower in this regime, GW manages to sink to all-time new lows.
Hitler got away with fooling the German people because he was smart about it. Bush is a doorknob, on his best days. Anyone left who still supports this man is insane.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:18 amjust because he constantly said we will “stay the course”, doesn’t mean he was stay the course. he’s a liar, remember?
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:20 amJust add this whopper to the long list of lies.
#3. I agree. He has to be clinically delusional.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:20 amThe regular trolls have been obviously silent lately…. Hmmm. Have even the loyal 29% begun to have enough?
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:21 amAnd a new talking point is born. We were never about stay the course–when we said “stay the course,” what we meant was “complete the mission.” Two entirely different things. Because, uh, one’s tactical and one’s strategic. Or something like that.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:21 amHey just because he said it a thousand times doesn’t mean he said it.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:22 amBushCo has always used mixed messaging. It’s how they use the media. It’s similar to how ThinkProgress uses the media on behalf of the Democrats.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:25 am#21
You are right. George S. and his crack research staff should have had those clips ready to counter Bush’s denials. It is hard to believe that Stephanopoulos would not have thought that Bush would have denied making those statements. But it would be a good bet that even if George S. had done that , Bush would have smirked “Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?”
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:26 am“I will not withdraw, even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me.”
–George W. Bush, talking to key Republicans about Iraq, as quoted by Bob Woodward
Sounds like ’stay the course’ to me… Or that his dog is present while he is having sex with his wife (or vice versa)
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:28 amPLEASE……the man is not delusional! He is BAD….VERY VERY BAD. I wish people would stop excusing him. Delusion suggests that the person is not really responsible. That is NOT the case here. It is about greed, power lust, willful ignorance and hatred. He is not interested in the truth, or his fellow man. He knows he said stay the course and he knows he is now saying……we never said stay the course.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:29 amHe hops ( KNOWINGLY) from political strategy to political strategy in order to save his lying ass and the asses of his thug friends. He has been playing us from the beginning. This stupid delusional thing..way of describing him HAS TO END in my opinion, and he needs to be held accountable…on every level.
It’s too easy to say he is delusional as we shake our collective heads in disbelief. Believe it. He is not a good person. And he is in full command of said person…….
Next, he’ll be telling us he did find the WMD’s — as suicide bombers. masses right there.â€
Comment by ericnh — October 22, 2006 @ 10:18 am
“I would guess, I would surmise that some of the more spectacular bombings are done by al Qaeda suiciders.” –George W. Bush, on violence in Iraq, Washington, D.C., Aug. 21, 2006
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:32 am#33 BushCo has always used mixed messaging.
This is mixed, this is confused, crazy…
It’s how they use the media. It’s similar to how ThinkProgress uses the media on behalf of the Democrats.
Maybe. However, the latter use I can live with. But what happened to honest discourse not viewed through the caleidoscope of party politicking? F***ing hell.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:34 amThe guy is pathological.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:36 amHe should have a mental examination.
Morning all, Just another Sunday in this bull shit bush bizarro world…..This “stay the course” and “war on terrar”, his spelling not mine, has been their mantra from the beginning…Rather by neglect or design we are now at nearly 2,800 or more lost service personell..That’s 2,800 famalies that have lost a loved one..Then we have the 660,000 Iraq, men, women and children that have died for bush’s war machine…..I can not even get my mind around that. The word is genocide.They call it a war and now hope the public will shift their thinking from “Stay the course” to keep voting for us….Failed and murderious ideal’s have gotten us here all in the name of relegion and oil…..WTF is wrong with this entire bunch of polaticians in our administration. We have been sold out.On the one hand we have the neo-cons and on the other we have the enabelers…Our country and the world is broken and it is the fault of everyone who voted these lieing profesed christian’s into office…..The “war on terror” is like war on dust bunnies or ghosts…..Stop this madness and killing, vote all in office out and put new people in on all side’s…..While the Rep’s are loosing their grip the Dem’s are not standing up and speaking out..So dump them all and get new one’s in….Blessings
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:36 amPS The GOP thugs also use the tactic of confusion very well. They flip flop and accuse others of flip flop…..and on and on.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:36 amNotice all the posts here were people say their head hurts etc…..cause IT’S CONFUSING!! Bush contradicting himself is the ultimate finger to the American people. It’s as if he’s daring us to play a clip that shows him saying “stay the course.” Cause ya know what? He’ll then be able to have the fun of laughing at us even more….it will be even more fun for him. Cause he thinks he is now ALL POWERFUL. What a kick for him eh? There is divide and conquer, therefore the very successful lib/con wars Rove encouraged….and then there is confuse and distract…….they do that well too. The confound our reasoning process so we will fall into their hole …….which is not rational, fair, understandable…..and thus……..NOT ABLE TO BE ATTACKED AND CONTROLLED. i.e. A MOVING TARGET ………….But. He’s gonna lose. America is better than all this and it will prevail.
I think Bush inhaled.
A lot.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:36 amHeh, I think I have found a cure for that..One thing the fundies hate worse than anything is to be called Wackos by their own [supposedly] party.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:37 am
“Bin Laden says his own role is to tell Muslims, quote, ‘what is good for them and what is not.’”
–George W. Bush, Washington D.C., Oct. 6, 2005
“I’m the decider, and I decide what is best. And what’s best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the Secretary of Defense.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:37 am–George W. Bush, Washington, D.C. April 18, 2006
How stupid does W take the American people to be? As stupid as he is? W and every one of his pals (Veep Cheney, Rummy, Condi Rice) have been blabbering on about nothing but “stay the course” since Iraq went to hell. The lies continue.
Hear about this? Some nutty WSJ spin-off is predicting that Republicans will keep Congress in Novemeber. http://polibuzz.blogspot.com/2006/10/gop-survival-in-november.html
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:39 amThat’s kooky. The right-wing media just will not stop this Dem bashing. The GOP is dead; get over it.
The words of a sane man?
“In this job you’ve got a lot on your plate on a regular basis; you don’t have much time to sit around and wander, lonely, in the Oval Office, kind of asking different portraits, ‘How do you think my standing will be?’”
–George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 16, 2005
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:41 am#37 It’s too easy to say he is delusional as we shake our collective heads in disbelief. Believe it. He is not a good person. And he is in full command of said person…….
Unfortunately, by his being The Prez’, this judgement is automatically discounted. Only after the sickness has burnt itself out can one see clearly. That freakish Austrian (no, not Schwarzie!) also sounded reasonable at the time, otherwise parliament would not have given him what he wanted.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:41 amWhat’s scary to me is that this is an intentional ’strategery’ thought up by Rove (because we all know that Bush does nothing without him). And despite being clinically evil, Rove is not stupid. So the logical conclusion is:
Yes, they really do think the American public is that dumb. Or too fixated on Desperate Housewives / Xbox / missing-white-girl-of-the-week to really think about what a monumentally pooch-screwer he is.
THAT’S what terrifies me- that they have such contempt for Americans that they a betting on getting away with it.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:41 amLIAR LIAR LIAR. No one believes a word that Bush says anymore.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:41 am“Who could have possibly envisioned an erection — an election in Iraq at this point in history?”
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:42 am–George W. Bush, at the white House, Washington, D.C., Jan. 10, 2005
#36…
I agree 100%. This is a man who will lie right to your face, and not bat an eye. It’s been that way since day 1. He (and those around him) have no conscience; they care ABSOLUTELY ZERO about human life. To them, the public is just the lower, dumb masses to manipulate.
Now I’ve read that he bought a 98,000 acre farm inn Paraguay, after said country agreed not to bring criminal charges against Americans for war crimes or crimes against humanity. If this is true, it without doubt shows the evilness of this administration and Bush.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:42 amHeh, I think I have found a cure for that..One thing the fundies hate worse than anything is to be called Wackos by their own [supposedly] party.
The wackos get their information form [sic] the Christian right, Christian radio, mail, the internet, and telephone trees.-Michael Scanlon [former Delay aide]
Comment by Dog_named_Boo — October 22, 2006 @ 10:37 am
Ouch!
Wow, that’s a terrific find! You should post that on every thread where a neocons starts defending the regime for the next two weeks (hopefully we won’t need it after that :)
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:45 am…you don’t have much time to sit around and wander, lonely, in the Oval Office, kind of asking different portraits, ‘How do you think my standing will be?’â€
–George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 16, 2005
You will when the Democratically-controlled House votes on articles of impeachment on you, and then you CAN wander the halls talking to the portraits just as Nixon did in his final days. Is that where the image came from, George? Comparing yourself to Nixon again? I wonder what brought that on? It wasn’t that the two of you shared a maniacal desire to increase the powers of the Office of the President, was it? Here’s a little heads-up for when you finally start wandering the halls talking to the portraits: I hear the Abe Lincoln portrait is a smart-ass.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:48 am“Give me a chance to be your president and America will be safer and stronger and better.”
–George W. Bush, Marquette, Michigan, July 13, 2004
Well, we see where that’s gone…
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:48 amOh yeah…. in case anyone missed it:
DOUBLETHINK
It’s about how you can stay the course without actually staying the course.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:49 am#44 Beautifully juxtaposed, unbelievable. Well done.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:50 amIndubetedly!
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:50 amNow I’ve read that he bought a 98,000 acre farm inn Paraguay, after said country agreed not to bring criminal charges against Americans for war crimes or crimes against humanity.
Comment by wixif — October 22, 2006 @ 10:42 am
Where’d you hear it? If true, that’s the surest admission of guilt he’s made so far…
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:52 amI can’t WAIT until we get to impeach this bumbling, LYING BASTARD.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:54 amI could not watch this segment on This Week. I can’t listen or look at Bush without anger. They plan on using the same tired “cut and run” on the Dems until after the election, and then I believe, they will do exactly that–with of course, James Baker’s blessing. Again, this buffoon, who has never been responsible for ANYTHING in his life, or for any of the subsequent consequences will be bailed out by “Daddy (’41) and his friends.
I was never in favor of this war–but to wait until after the elections to make changes in Iraq is immoral and is the most compelling argument that this Administration doesn’t give a fiddler’s fart for the lives of our military or for the will of the people of this country. BRING THIS WAR TO AN END NOW, AND BRING THESE KIDS HOME NOW–not after the election.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:54 am#51 It’s been that way since day 1.
Remember Ari Fleischer telling everyone at his first press conference that the outgoing Clinton Administration had committed all kinds of vandalism before leaving? They repeated the story constantly but couldn’t/wouldn’t provide any proof. Finally a GAO report found that none of it was true.
Now I’ve read that he bought a 98,000 acre farm inn Paraguay, after said country agreed not to bring criminal charges against Americans for war crimes or crimes against humanity.
Let’s make sure we seize his passport at 12:01 PM on January 20, 2009 (assuming he stays in office his full term. I can dream, can’t I?)
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:54 amHere’s a little heads-up for when you finally start wandering the halls talking to the portraits: I hear the Abe Lincoln portrait is a smart-ass.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — October 22, 2006 @ 10:48 am
That was hilarious…
At this point, it’s either laugh or cry at where we are. I just hope that in two weeks, we’ll solve this problem with ballots. ‘Cause if not, I don’t like what’s next…
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:55 amBeautifully juxtaposed, unbelievable. Well done.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — October 22, 2006 @ 10:50 am
Thanks… Though I doubt the trolls will get it. Most times it seems like we’re just preaching to the choir when we point these things out.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:56 am#53 Lol
Hey Wayne is your blog still up? I wanna check it out but I forgot the address…
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:58 amDiplomat: U.S. arrogant, stupid in Iraq
A senior U.S. State Department diplomat caused embarrassment in Washington after telling Arab satellite network Al Jazeera that there is a strong possibility history will show the United States displayed “arrogance” and “stupidity” in its handling of the Iraq war. The White House has distanced itself from the comments.
http://www.cnn.com/
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:00 am#63 yep good point
Where are the trolls anyways? Are they finally realizing that King George is a nutcase? Exlax? Hendler? Darryl Hitler? Where are you?
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:01 amWhere are the trolls anyways? Are they finally realizing that King George is a nutcase? Exlax? Hendler? Darryl Hitler? Where are you?
Comment by NewProg — October 22, 2006 @ 11:01 am
Church?
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:03 am#62 I hear you, unbelievable. If you haven’t been keeping track elsewhere, there’s a great website that does projections on how the House and Senate races will turn out.
http://www.electoral-vote.com:2006/
During presidential elections, they project the electoral college results. It’s looking solid for a turnover in the House, and the Senate is looking at a 50-50 tie as of today, but that will likely change one way or the other. At least with the House under Democratic control, they can begin investigating the abuses of power and the money stealing by the contractors. Impeachment would be nice, but I would rather have all the crimes exposed first. It’s not just the president and veep who are corrupt and immoral, it’s many in the Repulican leadership. (I’m sure there was more than one Duke Cunningham since it was his party’s intent all along to have just this kind of relationship with the lobbyists.)
I agree that if at least one House doesn’t change, it could be really, really bad for us (and Americans in general), but especially those of us vocally dissenting with them. These Republicans have really been losing it lately, haven’t they? I wouldn’t want them remaining in power if they’re going to become this unglued.
But if it’s bumming you out too much, click on my name and visit my blog for some odd humor and musings. I posted a few things this morning. Enjoy.
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:05 amHendler is on the thread above this one…
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:07 amUnbelievable
I think I saw his on cnn.com. It really shows how far Bush is from reality. He really thinks this war will just be a comma in the history books? He has no clue that he may be ending the Democracy of America. In all honesty George Dubya Busch deserves to be impeached NOW!
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:07 am#64 NewProg,
Click on my name anywhere these past few days where it’s clickable. I set it to go to my blog. I know most people’s name go to “null”, but mine goes to my blog now. All are welcome to stop by before returning to the wonderful people here at Think Progress. :)
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:07 amI had to watch it three times to believe it happened, and to make my head stop spinning around. WHAT? We’ve never been ’stay the course’? I want the borg unplugged, and I want our country back. I was not so much for impeachment when the Democrats take over Congress, but now I’m changing my mind. This is criminal insanity and stupidity. I see six quotes of ’stay the course’ which must have taken little effort. I’m sure you could come up with 100 in no time. Why would George S. have had quotes ready when that response is implausible? If I was interviewing the nutjob and he said that, I would have just laughed and said “no, you’re kidding, right? You’ve said we’re staying the course about 500,000 times.” Just when you thought it couldn’t get any more ridiculous…
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:08 amFrom 16th April 2004: http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/images/war.239.gif
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:11 amWayne good posts on your blog!
You are libertarian? Crazy Conservative Libertarion, or Normal Libertarion?
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:11 amWayne,
Thanks for the link… You notice how the states that are strongly Republicans are not exactly states that live in the current century? No surprise there.
I’m the eternal optimist – but with reality always in sight. I probably won’t be officially bummed until we’reon our way to Gitmo is orange jumpsuits… :)
But I will check out your website. Always enjoy what you and Jane haveto say…
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:11 amIn all honesty George Dubya Busch deserves to be impeached NOW!
Comment by NewProg — October 22, 2006 @ 11:07 am
I couldn’t agree more…
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:12 amAs Gov. Ann Richards said, Bush “was born with a silver foot in his mouth” and he never spit it out.
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:13 am#69
Yeah I noticed Jason was up there bothering our fellow liberals. He is really desperate to think he can win a single debate. He is the sexist guy right?
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:13 amhe also used the big word “myopic”, in reference to others, of course…
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:14 amhow ironic is that…
another day in “opposite world”…
Church?
Comment by unbelievable — October 22, 2006 @ 11:03 am
Yep, probably at that psycho God Hates F**GS Church!
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:16 amI’m waiting for him to say it is all the Dems fault for starting the Iraq war.
The dry-drunk needs another drink.
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:19 amI’m the eternal optimist – but with reality always in sight. I probably won’t be officially bummed until we’reon our way to Gitmo is orange jumpsuits… :)
Comment by unbelievable — October 22, 2006 @ 11:11 am
Unfortunately that day for us is coming sooner and sooner. I fear it will come before Nov. 7th but I hope I am wrong…
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:19 amBig Brother says “We’ve never been ’stay the course….We have been — we will complete the mission…’”
And now the Ministry of Truth must get to work changing every past record of “stay the course” to “complete the mission.”
The sad truth is, 30% of the American populace will buy the lie and parrot back that Bush has never been “stay the course.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:22 amYou know who I feel sad for? Exley
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:25 amThat guy has to work his ass off to find something, anything in GWB´s words, so he can say: Well, actually, the president is not lying…blah, blah, blah. Must be hard work to defend murderers and stupid people.
why would we deny the proper authorities the right to come and take him in the cookie truck to the asylum for help?
what the hell is wrong? I think this is leaking into insanity, collective, ubiquitous, ….. how do I describe it when everyone in my government acts like they are either paralyzed, or insane?
I can only go on proof, and the facts are in. there is no one left that is rational and balanced.
how many of us look at our government like this?
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:27 am#74 NewProg,
As I describe myself in the profile, I’m a Liberal, Libertarian, Humanist Atheist and not at all ashamed to admit it. I didn’t know the liberatarian side of myself was there until I checked out http://www.politicalcompass.org. They have a short, five-minute quiz and at the end they tell you where you stand on the political compass compared to famous people. They tell me that I’m more liberal and libertarian than either Mohatma Ghandi or Nelson Mandela. I’m proud of that.
Thanks for the compliments.
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:27 amThe man is a real idiot. He cannot even get his lies straight. If you couldn’t fool Stephanopoulos, how can you deceive a whole country?
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:32 amI could not watch that segment on “This Week” because I cannot stand the lies from this man. For that matter, I never watch his press conferences or his other pr efforts. We have had 6 years of nothing but lies and obfuscation.
What enrages me the most however, is this “cut and run” that the Repugs are going to use for the next to weeks to try to retain power. Yet, the Bush family “fixer” is doing everything to save this clowns ass and his presidential reputation–I am willing to lay odds that immediately after the election, Bush declares victory in Iraq (or a variation on that theme) and pulls the troops either back as John Murtha recommended almost a year ago or Iraq is divided into three as Biden has repeatedly called for.
Message to Karl Rove and Closet boy Ken Mehlman, the american people know you are liars and have had enough. To think that this is the party of so called “values” you people are contemptible and repugnant to use our military as pawns. There is a special place in hell awaiting all of them for what they have done to our country and to those innocent people in Iraq!!
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:32 am
#58 UnB.
About
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:33 amParaguay . I dont know if this is what you were exactly looking for…
The sad truth is, 30% of the American populace will buy the lie and parrot back that Bush has never been “stay the course.â€
And of course, this means that 66.67% of the votes will go to The Party That Shall Not Be Named.
Revisiting old comics rocks: http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/images/war.299.gif
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:34 amMan I should really be off to work now.
It is not like we have video & audio tapes
of bush saying that we will stay the course
or books & newspapers that quote him saying
just that.
He is like Hitler in the battle of Stalingrad leaving
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:39 amhis army to die or be captured as the Russian Winter
closes in.
THERE ARE ‘Results 1 – 10 of about 1,110,000 for “Bush stay the course.” ON A THING CALLED GOOGLE, DO YOU THINK PPL WILL NOTICE?????????
see ARTICLES
http://www.defworld.blogspot.com
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:47 amDO YOU THINK PPL WILL NOTICE?????????
No. Do you?
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:53 amGWB being interviewed in obscurity in the year 2020:
Q: Mr Bush, how does it feel knowing you were ranked in a recent study as the worst president ever?
A: I was never president.
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:53 amMore fun with quotes out of context:
STEPHANOPOULOS: James Baker says that he’s looking for something
BUSH: Constantly.
Anyway it was just as informative as the original.
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:57 amI asked around my work. 85% of the people answered that GW’s theme is/was “Stay the course.” Why are we not like those other countries, where when their corrupt governments get to be too much, they revolt? We need to rise up, overthrow, impeach, remove these lying liars. Let’s try to regain that admiration that the U.S. once felt and had in the world. Let’s take back our country. Remove Bush, by any means possible.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:01 pmthis guy lies so much through his teeth you can actually see the lies pertruding out of his mouth.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:02 pm[...] The operative phrase is ‘changing tactics’ not changing ‘the course.’ [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:03 pmNautilusguy,
We don’t govern by polls.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:03 pm-GWB
#96 Remove Bush, by any means possible.
So, is it time yet to break out all those guns that the gunnies hoard to ‘guard freedom’? I mean, if you have that big pile of guns and you don’t at least point to it in a threatening way when the time’s right, what’s the use?
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:05 pmPosted this on the wrong thread — try again:
Another thing that bothers me: Presumably Stephanopoulos knows what questions he’s going to ask. Why is it he has no research in front of him to back up a follow up question?
Do they all buy into BO’s ridiculous assertion that one does not get confrontational with the president?
Need I say Clinton…?
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:05 pm#86 Thank Wayne A. Schneider. It is cool site http://www.politicalcompass.org. Thank for the link. My score is Economic Left/Right: -3.13, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.54.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:05 pm#102 yangho,
You’re welcome. Mine was like -7.5 to -8 for both the last time I checked. They change the questions every once in a while and a recent set asked questions relating to current events. It’s good to check it out from time to time just to see if what you learn changes how you feel about the world.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:16 pm…how many of us look at our government like this?
Comment by oldtree — October 22, 2006 @ 11:27 am
hopefully, enough…
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:18 pm.
#101 And I went and replied onn the wrong thread. Sorry folks.
Do they all buy into BO’s ridiculous assertion that one does not get confrontational with the president?
Only the cowards like Bill-O (aka “Lying Manâ€). Apparently he never read a little thing called “The First Amendment†which guarantees citizens the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. As long as you don’t get physical, you have every constitutional right in the country (sadly, not yet the world) to get verbally “confrontational†with any politician, especially the highest one in the land, if they are going to lie to you or try to make you believe something that is not true.
And I don’t know why Little Georgie didn’t have better notes handy. Maybe, just to try to give him some benefit of the doubt, he figured that Bush had made that statement so many times that he just couldn’t believe that Bush would deny saying it altogether, so he didn’t prepare a montage. I would love to see someone ask Bush to look at a clip of something he said, and just instead show him Jon Stewart doing his Bush laugh during the “Ten F&*%ing Years†review of their stuff on presidents. It was hilarious! One Jon Stewart “Bush laugh†after another. (heh-heh-heh.)
Apologies, everyone.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:18 pmYeah I noticed Jason was up there bothering our fellow liberals. He is really desperate to think he can win a single debate. He is the sexist guy right?
Comment by NewProg — October 22, 2006 @ 11:13 am
Sorry for the delay, I had to grade some stuff…
Yeah, a ‘pest’ is a great description for Jason, come to think of it. :)
Sexist. That’s a compliment for his view of women. If it were up to him, we’d all be barefoot, perpetually pregnant while in the kitchen with our tongues cut out so we couldn’t speak. He’d make it illegal for us to drive, vote, read or write. Fashion would become the style of the Purtians and
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:19 pmwe’d be forced to attend church daily. Under Jason’s ideology, women would be fifth class citizens – right after dogs, asses and oxen…
Bingo…..I’m sure there are a host of trolls and wingnut talking heads that are spliting a vain going….â€wha wha wha what?????â€â€¦..all the Fawn Hall’s of wingnutland have just been called in on this lovely Sunday morning to do a whole lot of scrubbing….
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:20 pmYep, probably at that psycho God Hates F**GS Church!
Comment by NewProg — October 22, 2006 @ 11:16 am
Aren’t most of them like that?
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:20 pmAnd now the Ministry of Truth must get to work changing every past record of “stay the course†to “complete the mission.â€
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — October 22, 2006 @ 11:22 am
Not that it will be different from the existing written histories on the past, where those with ridiculous power will scribe the history they wish existed rather than the one that does…
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:22 pmI’m chilling with the Dalai Lama at (Economic: -3.50,Libertarian: -6.26). Damn, I thought I would be more authoritarian than that. Weird…
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:22 pmBush, you make me sick. He must be removed before he can do more damage.
C’Mon JAG’s, read your oath, then read the law.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:24 pmWhat must he do-shred the constitution in your faces?
zooey – that was rich…
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:26 pm.
i wonder if history has ever had a leader who has been this imcompetent, toss in bush’s talking with god and the iraq war and america has a real problem with credibility.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:26 pm#86 – Cool site, Wayne.
My score was Economic Left/Right: -4.38, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.97
More liberal and libertarian than Ghandi, Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama. Too cool…
Thanks!
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:26 pmJuan,
Thanks for the link. This makes me SICK!
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:29 pm“With Bolivia’s recent uprisings, their enormous gas reserves, and a presidential election on the way, this questionable activity could pave the way for a U.S. intervention. Rumors of Al Qaeda training grounds near Paraguay may also work to the Bush administration’s advantage as it makes a case for military operations in the region. “
“Stay the Course” is still #5 on the “Top 10 GOP Sound Bites List.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:31 pmHere’s another one that caused me to ROFL: http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/images/gywo.six_to_nine.gif
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:34 pm…Do they all buy into BO’s ridiculous assertion that one does not get confrontational with the president?…
Comment by Zooey — October 22, 2006 @ 12:05 pm
since i heard an explanation (on franken? randi?) that these talking heads – not olielly – like tim and george and chris – can ask some questions, but the important thing is the answers are ON RECORD, i’ve been able to wrap my head around the fact that those guys want to keep their jobs too, and i’m grateful for the RECORD… the proof is right here in this thread…
but, yes, for the sake of getting the criminals on record, for probably the most confrontational they can get, they hold back, i’m sure…
and i wonder how keith would do in a head to head… bet he’d back off too… that damn “respect for the office” thing…
it’ll be good to get that back also…
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:36 pm.
There is no doubt in my mind that CBS abd GS did have the GW’s quotes refuting his own statements.
I think that after reviewing the raw interview. They probably determined they didn’t need to because it is obvious to all viewing that the President has lost his grip on reality. He is really looking like Nixon in the last days lately.
What was the salient point of A history of English Speaking Peoples since 1900? That if he did read it, he cannot comprehend any learnings. Or he lied again. Oh yeah, what he said was history: time will tell. Same as the theme of My PEt Goat.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:41 pm[...] Accepting the catastrophes in Iraq and in Afghanistan and doing nothing to change course is not a serious, adult position that only serious, civil senators take while the rest of us run around in a state of beheaded-chicken-like anger. I don’t think that outrage is a sufficient condition for the label of seriousness, but it undoubtedly is a necessary one in this day and age. If that anger prevents a politician from being called civil, all that is revealed is the inadequacy as civility as a metric of political seriousness. [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:48 pmbet he’d back off too… that damn “respect for the office†thing…
it’ll be good to get that back also…
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Comment by katy
Given Keith Olbermann’s Special Comments over the past few weeks, I doubt that he would be given the chance to interview Bush. But if he ever did, I doubt that he would do it solely on their terms. I’m sure he knows that if he ever gets a shot at it, it would be his only one. He also understands, I’m sure, that protecting your access to someone who isn’t going to tell you the truth anyway does no one, least of all the American people, any good whatsoever. And besides, respect is earned, not automatically given to a person. Why show respect to an office that its current holder doesn’t show?
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:55 pm“GWB being interviewed in obscurity in the year 2020″ – Zooey
or maybe it will read:
“GWB being interviewed in his cell at The Hague in the year 2020…”
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:55 pm“GWB being interviewed in his cell at The Hague in the year 2020…â€
Comment by Briseadh+na+Faire
I could definitely live with that! His response would be the same.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:58 pmWayne I like the site
I got -5.0 for Left/Right and I got -6.0 for Libertarian/Authoritarian. I seem to fit pretty close with the Dalai Lama. SWEET!!!!!
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:01 pmtime to put this idiot in prison for crimes against humanity
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:02 pmUnbelievable you are correct
Sorry for taking off, I had other things to do. You are correct in your assessment of the freak show Jason Hendler. How could a man say these horrible things about women? No wonder no one will date him…
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:04 pmtime to put this idiot in prison for crimes against humanity
Comment by andyville — October 22, 2006 @ 1:02 pm
No arguement there…
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:05 pmI’m chilling with the Dalai Lama at (Economic: -3.50,Libertarian: -6.26). Damn, I thought I would be more authoritarian than that. Weird…
Comment by El+Tonno — October 22, 2006 @ 12:22 pm
Yeah me too! (I had Economic: -5.0, Libertarian: -6.0) Damn I was so hoping to be a troll ;)
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:08 pmAccording to the political compass site, I scored
Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
Maybe it has to do with the fact that I’m a Scorpio and the moon entered Scorpio this morning? ;-)
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:12 pmThis guy can’t tell the truth if his life depended upon it. I just seen the video of King George caressing that male prostitute, and rubbing the back of his head then kisses him on the cheek. He needs to come out of the closet, but he’s lying about being gay too.
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:13 pmHow could a man say these horrible things about women? No wonder no one will date him…
Comment by NewProg — October 22, 2006 @ 1:04 pm
Apparently he was married and she left him, so therefore, in the absolutist view of the Christo-Nazi neocon that he is, one woman defines all women. Just like he thinks that three or four pedophile teachers makes us all pedophiles. Nevermind that there are HUNDREDS of pedophile priests and Republiscums that he defends daily. And, he won’t apply his own absolutist logic to himself or his “people”. He’s a total hypocrite.
No one will date him. But to him, that couldn’t possibly be his own doing. Yeah, right – the party of personal accountability….
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:18 pmYou know how I can tell a man is a neo-conservative within a 2 minute conversation?
He never once asks anything about me… Just tells me all about him.
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:19 pmI watched this interview and not only is Bush completely arrogant, deluded, and disgraceful, Stephanopolous is Mr. Softball. The strongest challenge he gave Bush was when Bush said he does a lot of reading (but not about himself or his administration) and was currently reading “A History of the English Speaking People” since 1900. So Stephie asked him “what do you take away from it?”
Bush’s face flashed a quick look of confusion, then anger, before saying some stupid thing like “history is long” and letting Stephie finish his thought by saying “you have to take the long view,” to which Bush replied “yeah.” That was as tough as Stephie got.
No questions about signing statements. No pressure on Bush about enemy combatants or Quantanamo. No mention of the $300 Billion+ deficit. No mention that more Americans have died in Iraq than died on 9/11. No mention of the Iraqi death toll, the drop in electricity to before pre-Saddam levels,he polls that show Iraqis want America out, the death squads inside the government itself., or anything of substance about the realities of today’s Iraq. Nada.
Worst of all, Stephie completely let slide Bush’s assertion that Iraq can and will one day be a “functioning Democracy and an ally in the War on Terror, in the heart of the Middle East.” Even James Baker – Daddy’s Man sent to help Georgie extract himself from his self-created pile of shit – has said this isn’t going to happen, yet Stephie let it pass without so much as a peep.
Stephie did ask if there was any scenario where Bush could see American troops leaving Iraq while he was still President, and Bush said “no.” Talk about a silver platter setup for Stephie to come back with a simple response, like “in 2002 before the invasion, your administration said it would be a cakewalk. Now you’re saying American troops will be in Iraq until at least 2008. Does this mean your pre-invasion judgements about Iraq were wrong?”
For an interviewer, it doesn’t get any easier that this…….. but Stephie never followed up. This interview was the mainstream media equivalent of a very feeble pillow fight.
No wonder the American people are so badly misinformed. The fragile bubble around Bush never gets punctured, even when he himself hands the media the needle.
Stephanopolous truly is Mr. Softball……. A terrible interview!
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:21 pm#129 Briseadh,
That’s the general area I find myself scoring whenever I do it. No wonder I find myself agreeing with your posts so often. I’m just a lot sillier than you, but at least one of us has to remain at least somewhat serious. :)
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:25 pmNote the brief smile after he says that he’s never been “stay the course”. Looks like he is happy with himeself for this particular lie.
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:27 pmDoes anyone know the actual interview ground rules? Do all questions have to be submitted ahead of time? If so, is the interviewer allowed to deviate in any way from the pre-approved questions? What would happen if an interviewer did ask a question not on the list? Would the president walk out of the interview? That I would pay to see.
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:27 pmSure George.
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:32 pm
Mr. Schneider, (134) Well, they say great minds think alike!
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:40 pmMaybe it has to do with the fact that I’m a Scorpio and the moon entered Scorpio this morning? ;-)
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
That must be what it is. :-)
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:41 pmIf “W” wanted to tell the truth, he would have said “We will FLUNK the course.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:49 pmWhat a lying sack of shit!
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:51 pmWhat “W” should have said was “We will flunkthe course.” Then, at least he would have been telling the truth.
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:53 pm[...] GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:53 pmMr. Schneider, (134) Well, they say great minds think alike!
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
And so do ours! :)
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:56 pmFurther proof that Bush is a pathological liar.
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:57 pmF*cking retarded NAZI George thinks if he says it differently it means whatever he wants , just like his signing statements on the 800 bills he passed into law.
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:59 pmNAZI war criminal George + crew should be publicly executed ASAP,but then america is not a logical rational nation,but a war crimes rogue terrorist nation.
It warms my heart to see so many of us in agreement on this. I can only cross my fingers and hope that WE stay the course and on Election Day throw the bums out.
October 22nd, 2006 at 2:12 pm[...] Source [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 2:17 pmBush isn’t WRONG.
Bush is LYING.
October 22nd, 2006 at 2:40 pmguys…use this and GET AN AD OUT.
NOW
And put it on 24/7
don’t you remember ‘I voted for it before I voted against it?’
This stuff writes it self….
October 22nd, 2006 at 2:40 pmi am certain that bush has ghonnarea, eventually you become a raving lunatic, we are seeing this now.
October 22nd, 2006 at 2:49 pmDefinately one of the poorest excuses for a human being I have ever laid eyes on.
October 22nd, 2006 at 2:55 pm[...] ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Sort of leave you scratching your head, doesn’t it? [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:01 pm[...] President Bush denies ever having advocated that we “stay the course” in Iraq. Two points to anybody who can twist logic sufficiently to claim that this is not a bald-faced lie. [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:02 pmBush: “We’ve never been ‘Stay the course’”…
Translation: “I think Americans are too dumb to remember what I said six weeks ago.”…
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:04 pm[...] read more | digg story Share and Enjoy:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:05 pmBut no one is doing anything. Everyone knows that Bush is confused and as a child, Rumsfeld and Rice are always defensive.
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:12 pmBut the real question is, what are well all going to do. After end of term for Bush people will be speaking out, but now … he is still in power.
i can’t wait until he is impeached, and hopefully imprisoned in a secret torture facility.
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:14 pmhey chimpy the idiot… ever hear of youtube? ever watch the daily show… ever hear of video editing… remember when your father said, “READ MY LIPS, NO NEW TAXES”… could “We’ve never been stay the course” be your BIG BIG BIG defining idiot moment… are you getting fit for a propeller hat? you’re so gonna get nailed this week… over and over…
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:18 pm[...] I’ve been reading a book of short stories by Neil Gaiman titled Smoke and Mirrors and it contains a story called “The Goldfish Pool and Other Stories”. It’s about a trip to Los Angeles where the behavior of the inhabitants is nicely summed up by an observation about goldfish: They are so damn stupid that they swim around the pool thinking “I’ve never been here before” and so even things they have done a thousand times seem new to them. The thing is, the story isn’t just about Los Angeles and the cult around the movie industry; it applies to everyone in this country. If it didn’t, George W. Bush wouldn’t think for a moment that he could pull off yet another Big Lie. It’s really unbelievable that he is trying this again… If you have the memory of a goldfish and have forgotten that the same tactic was used on the topics of WMDs and the supposed Saddam/Al-Qaeda link. Follow the link below, and try to remember what you see and read on Election Day. Think Progress » Bush: ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’ Bush: ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’ [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:24 pmWhen you think your god, you can go back in time and change what you said. Duh?
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:29 pmIs Bush actually a member of the human race? Or is he the missing link? He really does look something like a chimpanzee. He seems to think like a chimpanzee. No, wait, that is a base insult to all chimpanzees everywhere.
I think even chimpanzees have better thinking mechanisms than our current resident of the United States. The only difference is, this chimpanzee learned to talk.
He says “stay the course stay the course”, and then tells Stephanopoulos he never said any such thing.
Like he never did coke. Like he served honorably in the National Guard. Like his daddy never got him out of all the scrapes he ever go into. Like he never blew up frogs with firecrackers. Like he won two presidential elections without stealing both of them. Like he saved New Orleans. Like he is not a hypocrital lying sack of crap. Like he is a practiciing Christian. Like he is not a sociopath. Like he is not a war criminal.
Like he never ever said “stay the course”. That must have been his evil twin.
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:32 pmI’m sure Stephanopoulos confronted him right away on the contradiction. Our fearless news media would do no less.
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:35 pmThis “president” (and I use that term very, very lightly (and I am a disgusted, registered Republican), is an “effing” MORON. How could this country be so stupid as to let him stay a second term. Wasn’t the fiasco of the first four years enough? Now we still have two more years of this idiot, pushing more and more people — the US service members, the Coalition Forces, and the Iraqi people — to their deaths, while he sits at home, comfortably, in the White House, being puppeteered by his incompetent cabinet. If any of them actual ever put on a uniform and walked into battle, they would have known that what we did was disastrous. (Just because Rumsfeldt rose up to the rank of Captain (O-6) in the Navy RESERVE, does not mean he has the qualifications to head the Department of Defense, nor does he know how to manage a war he started. In case anyone is disillusioned by the “fog of war,” Iraq is a GROUND operation, not a seaborne operation. Navy Captains — especially Reserve Navy Captains — need not apply. Besides, I went to war with a lot of Reserve O-6s, and believe me, they are more dangerous than the enemy.)
Why can’t we, in this country, do what people in other democracies do, and vote a person out of office with a vot of “No Confidence?” If wee’re trying the “spread” democracy around the world, shouldn’t weactual practice it ourselves?
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:39 pmOh, I get it! What I say TODAY is what I’ve been saying all along!
Or, “Don’t listen to what I say, listen to what I’m going to mean.”
Jesus H. Moses, we’ve got a blithering idiot with his finger on the button.
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:46 pm…” constantly adjusting to tactics. Constantly.”
(…adjusting to tactics? ) … what an idiot he is!
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:46 pmcan we tar & feather this guy already?… and run ‘em out on a rail yet?
Oh my god he IS a chimpanzee! That’s why he is always furtively looking around at everyone to try to get a sense of what’s going on. That’s why he relys on his ‘gut’, which is another way of saying instinct. That’s why he can’t speak english. That’s why he likes to hurt those who are different than himself (ie intelligent, thinking people, people who look different, well, people in general) That’s why he doesn’t understand concepts like “human dig-ni-ty.” That’s why he seems so uncomfortable and out of his depth around human beings. It all makes sense now! Thank you Russ Nichols!
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:53 pmnot WRONG per se: just lying, as always
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:58 pmSee, I’m the decider. And that means I get to decide what I said.
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:02 pmHow does this LYING Mother-Father, LYING Piece of Sh–t, LYING Idiot, LYING C- average, LYING Dim-Witted, LYING Moron SLEEP AT NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:04 pmGod help us all!
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:08 pm[...] Bloggy Goodness, Iraq, Journeys with George, George W. Bush, 911, Wingnuts Think Progress » Bush: ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’ During an interview today on ABC’s This Week, President Bush tried to distance himself from whathas been his core strategy in Iraq for the last three years. George Stephanopoulos asked about James Baker’s plan to develop a strategy for Iraq that is “between ’stay the course’ and ‘cut and run.’†[...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:11 pm[...] Chimpus responded: “We’ve never been stay the course, George!” Watch it: [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:15 pmThe Dems now have their KILLER soundbite.
Just assemble the clips for exactly what you published here and follow it with the simple phrase:
“Vote For Change.”
All you need – case closed….
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:16 pmOceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:22 pmIn spite of all the lies, distortions, spin, etc that the antichrist (bushie) has dumped on us, ONE prediction that idiot made has come true… He IS a uniter, not a divider! He has managed to unite everyone against him!
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:22 pmIt’s moments like these that make me proud to be Anti-Repugnican.
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:22 pmLying sack of shit!
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:24 pmHow much more proof do we need to prove our leadership is seriously delusional. This just follows the report that a psychiatrist submitted to a number of professionals having them review the characteristic traits of ’subject A’. Without exception they all concluded that the subject was dangerous, severely delusional and should be forcibly confined for his own safety and that of others. The subject? Why Geoge Bush of course! Add to this Cheneys repeated claims of WMDs in Iraq even to this day and his claimif democrats win they will welcome the terrorists and you see a pattern of insanity at the highest levels of government. Plus you have Rumsfelds ” guided by God” and Hasterts ongoing Turkish criminal enterprises as well as the Pagegate scandal which he is neck deep in and I have to wonder if there is a SINGLE honest dedicated person in D.C. who works for the American people instead of themselves or AIPAC or the Corporation who promised them a golden job upon return to the private sector. The constittion is dead- so much for the 25th ammendment. And the there is Leo Wanta and the missing TRILLIONS that no one in the MSM DARES to talk about but is about as criminal and treasonous as it gets. Respect for a government that shits on the people while driving us into total financial collapse while lining their own pockets???!!!!!!
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:28 pmIt’s incredible how these people can deny they said certain things, when clips of their video interviews are available for the whole world to see, or read! They would probably try and say that the Bush you see in this old clip that says “Stay the course” hundreds of times is really an impersonator. Maybe that’s what they’ll come up with next. Incredible!
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:29 pmI recall the story of his Harvard professor who said Bush would say outrageous pro-war things, and when jumped on, deny he said it.
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:30 pm[...] Source: Think Progress » Bush: ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’ [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:31 pm[...] Bush responded, “We’ve never been stay the course.” (see video) [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:35 pmI’m ashamed but we have to call Rumsfeld and now Bush a “traitor” along with Murtha and the Generals who advocate getting us out of Iraq, Never thought he’d say we have to turn it all over to the Iraqis themselves before they were ready. I guess he finally threw in the towel. Old “cut and run” Rumsfeld. No “stay the course†for our President; never been; he says it with a straight face or a smirk? What a pity!
If only Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld would “stay the course” and let our troops “stand down as the Iraquis stand up”, everything would be OK. But, no, they’ve turned into the kind of “traitors” the dissenting generals were, and Murtha, and even Jim Baker and Kerry and Hillary seem to be. Our government is now being run by “traitors” who want to change what we’re doing and cave into the defeat of our troops. Of course, to keep doing what we’ve been doing requires even more troops, and that requires a … dare I say it? … “draft”; but anything to defeat these Iraqui terrorists in this “war on terror,” right?
First James Baker, then a couple of Senators like Warner and Hagel, then the leak that old Father Bush hands are in dismay over the direction of the war in Iraq. Theyre pumping up a campaign to change course and do exactly what Murtha has been calling for, only none of them is being called a traitor or a member of the cut and run group, as Murtha and others were. But thats exactly what theyre proposing. Now, in effect, Will joins them.
Just watch as Bush himself starts to back-pedal, saying maybe if something isn’t working, we ought to change it. He says, “We’ll change tactics not strategy.” A play on a words is what that is. With that, “cut and run” suddenly goes down the drain. No “traitors” here anymore, even Bush when he says he’ll consider what Baker and his committee want to propose. I call them all “traitors” because I grieve for the good men and women already killed, and the others who still will be killed, while this timetable and withdrawal change occurs.
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:42 pmWhat a f***ing idiot – can we believe anything he says?????
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:42 pmMan, he’s just gotta stop playing those auto erotic asphixiation circle jerk games with Cheney and Rumsfeld. He’s starting to lose brain cells. Where the hell is the secret service?
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:49 pm“Read my lips. Stay the course.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:57 pmI’m sure that Colbert and Stewart will both have fun with this one Monday. They have almost two days to work up some great stuff. Does anyone have links to the claim that GWB has bought land in South America?
October 22nd, 2006 at 4:58 pm[...] During an interview today on ABC’s This Week, President Bush tried to distance himself from what has been his core strategy in Iraq for the last three years. George Stephanopoulos asked about James Baker’s plan to develop a strategy for Iraq that is “between ’stay the course’ and ‘cut and run.’” Bush responded, ‘We’ve never been stay the course, George!’ Think Progress » Bush: ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’ Does he really think that America is this stupid? I mean, seriously? They’re just going to forget that his slogan, and the GOP’s slogan has been "stay the course" since forever? Think Progress » Caught on Tape: A ‘Stay the Course’ Retrospective Quote: [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:04 pm[...] Check out this article and video posted on Think Progress. Don’t forget to read the citations to “stay the course” and the comments.  [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:06 pmHmmm, this would make a great TV ad. Can we say “FLOP FLIP”?!
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:07 pmBush is a crackhead!!
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:07 pmThey are going to get out but not call it “cut and run.”
I heard it described as “notify and walk.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:11 pmHAD ENOUGH ALREADY???
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October 22nd, 2006 at 5:12 pmIn your face “you nutsos”. It don’t matter ’bout the little lie.
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:12 pmI’m the decider. I’ll do as I see fit. Get; used to it.
[...] Bush: Well, hey, listen, we’ve never been “stay the course,†George. […] [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:13 pmAlzheimers is setting in.
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:15 pmHe babels with “reckless abandon,” like the mindless idiot that he is. Why should we be surprised at this, he’s done it so many times that I fear we will become immune to it by 2008.
Unfortunately, I believe that the people who voted for him don’t know enough or care enough to read the papers or look at the Sunday news shows all of which are “liberal left wing conspiracies” to make him look stupid.
Bush is an indictment on the rest of us. He represents the “majority.” I only hope that the rest of the civilized world will understand that he won by a thin margin and that we are not all embeciles. He’s enough to make a grown person cry.
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:15 pmanyone remember the two page fixer, whitewash spread in the New York Times in Oct or Nov. 2000 where scores of former friends/associates went on record saying Bush never did coke? Where are they now? After seeing Bush’s recent complete and total crackhead behavior, would they go on record again, or admit the truth.
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:16 pmI’ve often wondered how the Dems have not already made soundbites of the numerous times Bush/Cheney/Rice/Rumsfeld, etc… have stated something ad nauseum only to be followed by their denial of same. End the commercial with a pairs of “flip-flops” and the names of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice etc….
John Stewart always seems to do smart, quick clips pointing out Bush’s lies and ineptitude, how come the Dems cannot do the same?
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:18 pmLIAR and an IDIOT…..
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:21 pm>”It’s incredible how these people can deny they said certain things, when clips of their video interviews are available for the whole world to see, or read!” -CalGal
Just wait CalGal until we get a GOP stooge come along and tell us we didn’t hear him say what he just did. You know they will. This will be spun and spun and spun.
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:21 pmI’m the last one to defend Festus (my pet name. . .) but y’all have to keep in mind that he’s astonishinly inarticulate for such a high level politician. Festus simply can’t think on his feet.
He blurted out “we’ve never been stay the course” in an effort to contrast that statement incorrectly with the following “we intend to complete the mission.” Which, of course, means the exact same thing as “stay the course.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:30 pmWHAT A COMPLETE S.OB., CAN YOU BELIEVE THE BAG OF SHIT THIS GUYS SPEWS…I’TS LIKE…LET ME SERVE THEM SHIT ON A PLATTER AND THEY WILL EAT… WTF!!!
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:31 pmHey, 40% still believe it so why not? the media whores went along and keep going along. Did you see ABC, NBC etc…replay Bush’s previous statements? NO. The media whores contributed to the mess.
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:38 pmVOTE EARLY!!! PAPER BALLOTS PLEASE WHEN VOTING
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:39 pm[...] In one of the most egregious attempts to revise history, President Bush told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos that “we’ve never been ’stay the course.’” [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:39 pmThe problem is that there is no facility in place in our system of government, short of civil uprising, that allows us to suspend a person from the Presidency when they exhibit conduct which brings into legitimate question their competency. GWB needs to be given a thoroughly psychiatric exam to see if he is suffering from some form of medical or emotional issue that makes him behave like this.
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:45 pmThat clip should be broadcast on all the networks. Mental incapacity is a basis for removal from office.
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:46 pmHitler stayed the course too….right up to the end in his Berlin bunker.
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:48 pmI would agree that he needs ECT treatments…I wish I had the money to run the adds…they would be so in your face with him spewing the shit that he does…
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:50 pmUnbelievable…
I tried to send you a message, but got an error. If you’re still reading these comments, check out the following: http://www.politicalcortex.com/print/2006/10/14/11926/843
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:50 pmhttp://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2006/10/gw-bush-moonies-and-paraguay.html
IF THERE ARE ANY DEMS HERE NOW THAT ARE WORKING ON CAMPAIGNS AND WITH ANY BALLS THEY WOULD RUN AN ADD WITH THIS SHIT AND THE OB SHIT THAT THIS COCKSUCKER HAS SPEWED…
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:52 pmand pinn every FING REPUBLICAN TO HIM… A SCROLL OF THEIR NAMES AND MUGS IN DARK SHADOW PICS…
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:56 pmJames Baker is the brother in law of the lawyer thar Cheney shot in the face if my memory serves me correctly.
October 22nd, 2006 at 5:56 pmAll one big family of Carlye Group money.
Pat…
really??? damn if it’s true, one fing incestous family
October 22nd, 2006 at 6:00 pmAll I have to say about Bush saying that they never said stay the course is this
October 22nd, 2006 at 6:01 pmBissel,
KUDDOS… EXCELLENT, WHAT MARKETS IS THIS PLAYING… IT NEEDS TO PLAY IN DALLAS, TEXAS WHERE THESE COCKSUCKERS LOVE THEIR BASE…. WE NEED TO HAVE THIS RUN HERE LIKE YESTERDAY!!!
October 22nd, 2006 at 6:05 pm[...] First go here http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/22/bush-stay-the-course/ and watch the video. [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 6:07 pmChimpy was for staying the course before he was against it.
October 22nd, 2006 at 6:07 pmBush and his accomplices tell baldfaced LIES the way the rest of us breathe. It’s totally natural for them.
October 22nd, 2006 at 6:10 pm” What does the horror feel like today when the terrible television pictures tell you that the events of that fateful September 11th did not take place in a distant land but in your own country? On another September 11th, 28 years earlier, a president by the name of Salvador Allende died resisting a coup d��tat planned by the leaders of your country. That was also a time of horror but it was taking place many, many miles away from your borders in a small and obscure South American republic. Those republics were in your own back yard but you were never very concerned when your marines set off with all guns blazing to impose your point of view. ”
Gabriel Garcia Marquez: Open Letter to George Bush
October 22nd, 2006 at 6:12 pmWell, fine. If by “stay the course” he means complete the mission, then god damn it, say so. But don’t say “we never said/we never meant/we’ve never been ’stay the course.’”
October 22nd, 2006 at 6:12 pmFirstly, I can’t get the video to work, so maybe it answers this question (and secondly I don’t want to read 223 replies so maybe *they* answer this question), but…
Did Stephonopolous just start pointing and laughing at Bush until Bush got up and left? Because that’s what he deserved.
October 22nd, 2006 at 6:15 pmCONSTANTLY AJUSTING THE FACTS
October 22nd, 2006 at 6:17 pmThe Empire is on the run. How did they ever think they were going to get away with all these lies and criminals acts against the world and this country? If the American people were to actually wake up which is still in some doubt they ever will, these criminals will have to head for their undisclosed underground bunkers fast.
He really seems to be having some serious memory lapses, isn’t he? He’s only said . . . over and over and over and over . . . “stay the course”. And yet, he can’t seem to remember he said it even once. I tell ya . . . one of his two remaining brain cells is lost and the other one is out looking for it.
October 22nd, 2006 at 6:36 pmWhat is amazing is that Rove lets Bush even do these interviews !!! Now that is stupid. Is Karl Rove losing it too ??? We all know that bush is an embarrassment – but jeez karl, he’s in POWER, i thought that was all you needed? What i wonder aloud is “what is IN IT for karl rove and the rest of the repugnicans” ??? WHY are they letting Bush do anything other than pop pills backstage ??? what is in it for them ???
The agenda of the shadow government is larger than Bush, or the Republican Party, or anything else. That agenda is anarchism – they want the people to give up on the government as a vector of positive change entirely. Within the framework of this agenda, letting Bush use the constitution for toilet paper and blather idiotically onstage makes perfect sense.
two words: ZAPHOD BEEBLEBROX.
-srini
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Been in the mountains without computer for four days and return to this. Today, I am nearly 60 years old. I am now half as good looking as Redford, can play with Seve, and I am now smarter than the President of the United States. Life is good….
October 22nd, 2006 at 6:39 pmMercedes Baker Whittington is Harry’s wife. Her brother is James Baker, former Secretary of State.
October 22nd, 2006 at 6:42 pmHarry Whittington is the attorney who was shot in the face by Cheney
If “those who don’t want to stay the course are siding with the terrorists” and George Bush now doesn’t want to stay the course, then GEORGE BUSH IS SIDING WITH THE TERRORISTS!
October 22nd, 2006 at 6:56 pmwho ya gonna believe, Bush or your lying ears?
October 22nd, 2006 at 6:59 pmBush followed up by saying, “We’ve never been at war with Eastasia. We are at war with Eurasia. We’ve *always* been at war with Eurasia.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 7:00 pmBush proves is the whore of his handlers, not his own man.
He can’t make a decision on his own to save his own butt.
Bush does not understand the meaning of what spouts out of his mouth.
Unless he’s hand-fed some Rove “hot soundbite” to repeat, he sounds
like an extreme dunce, brain-damaged.
I’m so sorry the American People have to put up with the insanity in Washington DC: publicists and opportunists running a freak show.
It doesn’t have to be this way:
October 22nd, 2006 at 7:10 pmVOTE to take out the garbage in November!
Never been stay the course — all about complete the mission? I thought mission was accomplished.
October 22nd, 2006 at 7:18 pmBush truly doesn’t think anyone will call him on his lies. One of my favorites was when he said Saddam threw the weapons inspectors out of Iraq. Actually the inspectors ran like hell for the planes when Bush ordered the warand the bombing to begin.
October 22nd, 2006 at 7:18 pm[...] Think Progress » Bush: ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’ [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 7:24 pmSharon Cox (#40) said it all. I hate to say it, but this is what I have been advocating almost since the day Bushco came to power.
America needs to re-think its whole political structure. We had the same problems in Thailand, but we resolved them quickly and painlessly (see: http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Reader2006/reader3085.htm & the followup).
Here’s what I propose:
October 22nd, 2006 at 7:26 pm1. Get the troops out of Iraq immediately. Instead, send in the Peace Corps and give them enough money to rebuild the country.
2. Scrap the Republican and Democrat parties and open up the field for new political parties. This works in Thailand. Instead of choosing between Dumb and Dumber, you will end up with lots of choices. If no one wins enough votes to form a government, then the politicians will have to form alliances and learn how to compromise.
3. Stop supporting Israel! It is a rogue state with absolutely no legitimacy at all. If all support for their aggression stops they will either have to learn how to live with their Arab neighbors, or they will have to disperse again. If America really loves the Jews so much, you should offer them a large chunk of desert inside the USA. Imagine. The Jews would move in, the desert would bloom, everyone would make money, and there would be no more violence. Why can’t anyone see that the root cause of all the so-called ‘Middle East Crisis’ is caused by your support for Israel? It’s like banging your head on a brick wall. Once you stop you will wonder why you did it so long.
4. Most Importantly Get rid of the Republicans and Bush now before they completely destroy any credibility you have left. It’s in tatters now. Can you, or the world, afford another two years of these thieves, liars, rogues and crooks? Enough is enuough!
This may be a trigger to the Presidential Succession Act whereby the president can be declared mentally disabled and can be replaced.
October 22nd, 2006 at 7:38 pmHe wasn’t saying “stay the course”, he was saying “slay the horse”. Or something like that probably. You know, one of the horses of the apocalypse.
October 22nd, 2006 at 7:46 pmI think the Bush family should have to foot the entire cost of the Iraq War, because they know their son was not capable of being president. He has been artificially implanted in the office by stealing, lying, and killing.
At least untill they are as poor as the poorist American.
October 22nd, 2006 at 7:47 pmI suppose it would be too much to ask for George Steffie to followup Bush’s “complete the mission” sound-bite with the simple question… “How do you define completion of the mission? By what are you measuring the degree to which the mission is currently complete, and progress towards ultimate completion?”
“victory in Iraq”, “complete the mission”, “stay the course” are all part of same strong-sounding talking point facade we’ve been hearing for 5+ years, but with nothing of substance backing up the talk.
All hat, no cattle.
October 22nd, 2006 at 7:51 pmDisplay the corpse? We’ve never been about “display the corpse.”
Spay the courts? We’ve never been about “spay the courts.”
Spray the crops? We’ve never been about “spray the crops.”
What is all this talk about anyway? And what happened to the Goat..I never did get to finish that book.” All this mish-mosh stuff is confusing you and more to the point, confusing me. This was never about WMDs. It was never about roses and a war that would pay for itself. It was about Saddam tried to kill my daddy… and I’ll be hornswaggered if I’m gonna use common sense when daddy is in question… oh yes… and it’s about the oil too… don’t ferget the oil… oil and daddy… and the power… can’t forget the power… oil and daddy and the power… and the voices… can’t forget the voices…
October 22nd, 2006 at 7:57 pmS— “That is NOT the case here. It is about greed, power lust, willful ignorance and hatred. He is not interested in the truth, or his fellow man.”
Does anyone think this “man” is above signing on to a major right-led “terror” attack in 2008 and declaring martial law? Does anyone think he is above implicitly approving massive voter machine fraud Nov. 7? Unthinkable? He ensured our loss of habeas corpus, yes or no?Does anyone think this Nazi and his “grisly gang” will bow to the will of the people? We haven’t seen the worst of this two-bit bastard.
October 22nd, 2006 at 8:04 pm[...] …is a lying sack of shit. [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 8:19 pmSo is this another Read My Lips moment? No, it is just Bush being steadfast to his history as a con man. People like Bush never lie they just see no utility in being truthful. Lying is what other people do. Bush simply adjusts his tactics. He changes his strategy by denying he ever said something for which ample evidence exists.
He is, as always, his father’s son. His father’s helpers with get him out of trouble.
October 22nd, 2006 at 8:28 pmSharon #240 – NOT a good idea. That would make Cheney the President!
There are only 2 viable options for regime change in the U.S.
1. Impeach the President and Vice President at the same time.
2. Techumsa’s curse, applied to both the President and Vice President at the same time.
October 22nd, 2006 at 8:29 pmGet on the same page everyone! This isn’t Right/Left or Dems vs. Repubs but free Americans vs. the federal government and their globalist banker backers. http://www.infowars.com
October 22nd, 2006 at 8:37 pm[...] You can watch it here. [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 8:39 pmARGH, When he lies, he uses the famous Dick ” in its last throes” Cheney head tilt. Maybe their brains are draining out of their ears!
October 22nd, 2006 at 8:41 pm” Words, whether framed by typist tongue or pen, have ruled the world, here, there, now and then”.
October 22nd, 2006 at 8:41 pmI just started looking for “stay the course quotes by bush…here’s the 1st one I found http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/11/20051130-2.html
October 22nd, 2006 at 8:51 pmHe just lies to get him out of any mess.
And for the Psychopath’s mind, that makes it all okay.
October 22nd, 2006 at 8:53 pmI think even Bush is trying to distance himself from the invasion of Iraq prior to the elections in some feeble effort to keep control of congress.
October 22nd, 2006 at 8:56 pmHowever as in past it is nothing more than another big fat lie to try an trick the folks prior to the vote.
You can bet your boots it will be back to “stay the course” should they keep control of congress.
He has way too many Buddies making way too much money as a result of the war in iraq.
I pray the majority vote will wake up and be American enough to take away at least some of this $%#*&*%&#$@*’s power away on Nov 7th.
here’s another one … it’s towards the end of the Q&A
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040413-20.html
October 22nd, 2006 at 8:58 pmSo who finally turned on him: Laura or Barney?
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:01 pmI think three is sufficient…here he wraps it up with exactly that phrase…
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jul2003/n07102003_200307101.html
W’s a dink!
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:05 pmThis is unfreaking believable. I just re-read Animal Farm, and I can’t believe I am really living it!!!
Do they still require everyone read Animal Farm at school? Never mind, I guess even if they read it they won’t have understood it!
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:13 pmWe find it amazing, stupefying, unbelievable that Bush could now say that he never insisted on “stay the course.”
Some of the comments posted here take it as a sign of the Republicans’ stupidity or arrogance, but it’s really neither.
They’re not stupid. They know what they’re saying. They know they’re lying, and now, lying about their lying.
The reason they don’t care what we think is because we are not the target of their lies. The target is a group I call the “morons.” These morons include many of my friends and family members, and they have clearly become the most important voting block in America.
Do the math with me:
About 45% of the electorate has been consistently anti-Bush and anti-Republican — even before the 2000 election. They saw right through the GOP lies, they opposed the war and they still do. We call this the Democratic base.
About 20% of the electorate are what I call “greed bags.” The only issue that matters to them is their money and taxes. They know the war is a disaster, they know the GOP is lie fest. They don’t care. They want lower taxes and that is the sole basis of their vote. Not all of them are rich, by the way — but all of them are greedy and want to be rich one day or at least richer than they are now. They total roughly half the Republican base.
The other half — another 20% or so of voters — are what I call “wackos.” They are mostly evangelical Christians, but they also include conservative Catholics, Orthodox Jews, Mormons (not morons), and even fringier types like survivalists, gun nuts and neo-Nazis. It is an odd group of single issue nutballs, but they have no where else to go, as the Democrats despise them (and visa verse).
Together, the greed bags and wackos form the Republican base, but they only total about 40% of the voting population. So to win majorities, the Republicans need to find another 6% or so — 15 million people roughly — who they must con into voting for GOP candidates against their own economic interests.
The Republicans do this with vast piles of money supplied by the greed bags, augmented by the manpower of the wackos. They do it with extremely clever manipulation and propaganda orchestrated by Rove the Great, easily the best practitioner of his craft since Josef Goebbels.
The lies and psychological themes they use seem preposterous to the 45% Democratic base, and even more preposterous to foreigners: stem cell research is evil, gay marriage is a dangerous, flag burning is a crisis, Terri Schiavo is being murdered by activist judges, we’re winning the Iraq war, Clinton is to blame for Osama Bin Laden, there is a liberal attach on Christmas. Etc. Etc!! ETC!!!
Rove and his minions KNOW we know these are lies. Even some of the greed bags and wackos know these are lies. It doesn’t matter. They don’t care. The lies are not aimed at us. The lies are aimed at the morons: distracted Walmart workers, folks with crappy lives and no time (or much inclination) to think these things through. They are aimed at conning people who do not have a good grasp on current events, who get virtually all their news from TV and their political commentary from TV advertising.
Thus, the swing vote in America is not Jews or blacks. It’s not soccer moms or security moms or so-called independents. The real swing vote in America today are these 15 – 20 million “morons.” And these people, not you fellow readers, are the sole targets of Bush’s sloganeering, whether it’s “Stay the course” or “cut and run” or “We’ll stand down when they stand up.”
So don’t be angry, stupefied or surprised.
Fascism always works like this. The lies seem obvious to the overwhelmed opposition or to folks in foreign countries. That’s why our foreign allies can’t believe we don’t see through all this.
But the truth is, we do. The trick is getting the morons to see through it too. And that is very hard to do, especially with the main stream media still playing lap dog instead of watch dog.
The good news is that the average life span of a fascist regime is mercifully short. Hitler’s 1,000 Year Reich lasted 12 years. Mussolini about twice as long; Juan Peron much shorter still.
Although they are nearly perfect at lying and manipulation, fascists almost always fail to deliver the goods, because their ideologies are bankrupt and nearly incapable of true progress without fraud.
And now, thanks to the disasters of the war, Katrina and the pedophile Congress, even a fair number of the morons are having second thoughts. We’ll see in two weeks if it’s enough of them.
But while Democrats deserve to cheer, they deserve very little credit for their own victory. It was events, not good Democratic straetgy or campaigning, that undid the GOP.
Had things gone even slightly better for the GOP — if Osama had been captured, or Katrina missed the coast, or Foley quit last year — the Dems would have no chance of retaking Congress and ending this mess.
Worse for the future, the vast, multi-billion dollar Republican bullshit machine of phony institutes, crooked reporters and biased radio and TV networks remains intact to sway the morons. It’s simply that, like in Berlin in 1945, events have grown so dark that even morons can see we’re in deep trouble right now.
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:15 pmDid Stephanolous NOT challenge him on that statement?
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:16 pm[...] George Bush folds. [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:17 pmThese latest remarks of course are off-the-chart cuckoo.
What I’m concerned about is the kind of October Surprise it’ll take in the coming days to pull off the election.
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:20 pm[...] Appearing on ABC’s This Week on Sunday, an excitable GW Bush insisted: “We’ve never been stay the course, George!’ Watch it.” [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:28 pmWhen is Poppy going to bail #1 dumb son out? He usually does by now. I personally don’t think that Bush will listen to anyone, especially his father.
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:30 pmShort-term memory loss…
As an American, I value the ability to reach out and give my leaders an appraisal of their performance. So tonight, after reading the transcript of ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos, I thought I would reach out to our esteemed President agai…
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:45 pmMore from Bushworld fantasy land
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:55 pm[...] Think Progress » Bush: ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’ [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:23 pm[...] Think Progress provides video, and documents 6 occasions on which Bush has said “we will stay the course.” [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:24 pm“We’ve Never Been Stay The Course”
What does that even mean? Is that kind of like: “Is our children learning?”
But beyond the mangling of the language, it is amazing the amount of lies coming out of the White House. This administration lies about the facts, and then lies about having lied.
What is really frightening is knowing that there are people who think Pres Bush never said “we will stay the course” -probably the same who believe the WMD were found in Iraq.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:30 pmYou guys get the rope: I’ll find the tree…
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:31 pm#17…the stink isn’t on his shoes, it’s in his pants
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:42 pmMada, you going to commit suicide? No need to do that. Once you guys realize that you can’t go through life on someone else’s nickel and stop being pussies then you might start winning some elections. But that won’t happen for at least the next 10 years.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:43 pmI think Baker was brought in to put a leash on that chimp. He has his finger on the button that will start the Iran war and even his oil-greedy parents know this is madness. The only way to reclaim some American dignity and respect is to impeach, convict and incarcerate that mumbling, lying dirtbag.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:49 pmBen,
Quit being an ass. Every progressive or liberal I know works for a living. Every person I know on the government dole voted for GWB — twice.
Show up here on November 8, will you?
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:03 pmunfortunately, for all of us, he’s going to get away with this lie just like everything else he’s gotten away with. I’m beyond anygry…I feel absolutely helpless.
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:05 pmlink
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:07 pmHe’ll get away with this. Congress won’t demand the truth be told. The media won’t demand the truth be told. All this will get swept under the rug like everything else. It’s horrible, absolutely horrible.
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:08 pmrobin, I don’t blame you. It has been very difficult for liberals these past 12 years. At least Clinton got reelected. You guys have to learn to live in the real world not the make believe one.
Zooey, I’ll be here…..either with a HAHA or an oh shit…but I will be here win or lose. Check out that Barron’s article. Pretty convincing stats…..93% prediction rate since 1972…don’t be so sure.
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:15 pmI agree with the earlier comment. If ever there was a great sound bite for the democrats to exploit it is depicting the past numerous “stay the course” sound bites, against the clip of Bush’s latest lie to Stephanopoulos.
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:17 pm.
“Stay the course” was Bush’s signature mantra.
How can one forget? ….unless…..unless….he is insane.
Pathological narcissists lie to you about facts they know you know. They lie to you about what you have said and done. Even if you said or did it only one second ago. They lie to you about what they have said and done in your presence. Even if they said or did it only one second ago. They lie about what you have done together. Even if it was only one second ago. In short, they lie like somebody out of his mind or hallucinating. Anybody we all know fit that description???
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:44 pm[...] I saw THIS on Think Progress. George Stephanopoulos was interviewing Bush and when the cut and run vs. stay the course argument came up Bush said that he has never been stay the course. Wasn’t that basically his whole campaign against Kerry? Think Progress also links to a bunch of articles from the Whitehouse website where Bush says that we must stay the course, who is the flip flopper now?! Fess up to what you have done Mr. Bush, don’t try to distance yourself and blame other people. Your presidency is failing, just end its misery. [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:49 pm[...] Bush Backpedals: “We’ve Never Been ‘Stay The Course’  [...]
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:56 pmI hope all of you are voting.. We need to get this country back on Track!
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:14 am…. and HERE is what the mission is.
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:21 amI respect Bush as a human being, but the man is just tragically wrong about so many things.
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:22 am[...] Watch video [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:26 am2+2=5
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:26 amSupprised, where are Repub supporters in this thread?
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:35 amHow did the democrats doctor that video? And right before the election. They have no shame.
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:38 amOctober 23rd, 2006 at 12:39 am
[...] And this is classic. [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:43 amI got news for you, Both parties are corrupt liars! You kick the Bushies out and fill it with what? This country needs 4 more politcal parties like in europe. At least then one party can’t completely rule all branches of government which forces them all to work together for the betterment of the country and not for the betterment of the party like we’re witnessing today. This political hatred goes way beyond what’s best for this country and it’s ripping lady liberty apart at her seems. You can bash the republicans till your blue in the face to nominate a bunch of democates who will misuse and abuse their powers the same way the republicans have if they gain complete control of the government so be careful what you wish for because the grass isn’t always greenier and you should be voting for any third party candidate who comes along to try and help promote more politcal parties in this country.
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:49 amI am labeled as “Insane due to Clinical Depression”. I recognize the symptoms. This guy is nuts.
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:56 amis it possible to put him in jail? or at least impeach him?… like tomorrow? i miss Bubba.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:14 amNothing is so admirable in politics as a short memory.
John Kenneth Galbraith
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:28 amLoser freak Bush! I’m starting to feel sorry for the geek ! impeachment NO! assassination YES!!!!! there should be a substantial reward for he who will put this miserable worm out of his misery people are dying on a daily basis because of this freak and his pointless and unfocused war agenda!!! America must oust and execute this evil slug!!
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:33 amJust because he forgot what he said doesn’t mean that we did.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:43 amWonderful comments — but will all of you vote this November 7th, and in 2008? I like to think the turnout from this blog will be 99.9999%, but, sometimes, I wonder.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:16 amI’m waiting for Bush’s lies to pile up to the point where he doesn’t even remember where he stands on Iraq.
“Carl, are we still going with ’stay the course’ or have we switched to ‘cut and run’? Bring me my crayons!”
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:27 amI honestly have to wonder what its like to live in George W. Bush’s delusional little world, but hey I guess when your family is powerful enough to steal an election you can make the real world your delusional world. Please I want out.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:33 amAahhh, so it was a completely different President George W. Bush who’s been saying that for the last three years.
Now I understand.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:50 amhere’s one from youtube thats pretty interesting…
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:56 amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RZf__HlwAg
I’m not asking, I’m BEGGING some Bush supporter to attempt to defend this latest bullshit. Come on, you sheep, defend Bush claiming he’s never been about “stay the course.” I friggin’ dare you!
You assholes have been repeating that mantra all along and now your delusional leader claims he’s “never been about” it. Kind of puts you in a tough spot, huh? If YOU say “stay the course” Bush says you’re at odds with him. Amazing, huh?
Come on! If you still support this incredible loser, defend what he said this morning! DO IT or admit that he’s delusional.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:57 am[...] Despite using the phrase “stay the course” numerous times in the past to describe his administration’s Iraq policies, Bush recently made this comment: Well, hey, listen, we’ve never been “stay the course,†George. We have been — we will complete the mission, we will do our job, and help achieve the goal, but we’re constantly adjusting to tactics. Constantly. [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:58 amThere’s nothing grammatically wrong with that statement, given that the implied name of the strategy, as said by George, is “stay the course.” If the name of the strategy was “hit or miss” or “all in,” you could substitute those two statements into Bush’s phrase and it would still be grammatically correct.
He’s using the phrase “stay the course” as a defining adjective, the way George used it in the previous sentence.
These 307 posts are ripping on Bush for his own “inability” to put together a valid sentence. Ironically, these 307 posters can’t tell the difference between a grammatically correct one and an incorrect one.
October 23rd, 2006 at 3:08 amOkay. My SEVEN YEAR OLD just said the following about this recent development:
“He must have read Presidents for Dummies–and didn’t understand it.”
Now I’m convinced that my kid could do a better job.
October 23rd, 2006 at 3:59 am[...] As Think Progress points out, that’s an amusing thing to say at this point. [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:05 amWOW.
I have to say, I am amazed at the truly seething invective this article has brought out. According to the posters here, our President is:
- Delusional.
- An idiot.
- A loser.
- A freak.
- Deserving of assasination.
- Feeble.
- A liar.
- A psychopath.
- Insane due to clinical depression.
- As bad, or worse than, Hitler.
- A pill-popper or a coke-head.
- A Pathological narcissist.
The bottom line is that this is just another verbal gaffe, something we see all the time in politicians. It certainly doesn’t warrant this type of response.
As much as I disliked Bill Clinton and disagreed with him politically, the worst I ever called him was a pervert (let’s face it, he cheated on his wife at the office – I’d call anyone who did that a pervert) and a liar (staring straight into the camera and saying “I did not have sex with that woman” is not a verbal gaffe – it was a lie, pure and simple).
I’d never compare Bill Clinton to Hitler or Stalin. I certainly wouldn’t say he needed to be assasinated. I wouldn’t call him an idiot, or make ignorant comments about him being mentally ill (”insane”, by the way, is a legal term, not a medical one).
It is this sort of bilious posting that demonstrates just how far out of the American mainstream you people are.
Get a grip, people. You claim to be the party of tolerance, but your seething rabid rage belies what is in your hearts.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:19 am303 and others..
Make that 2 elections and counting.
Before Midterms (you are all going to vote aren’t you??), make sure that you are registerd. The rolls are being purged for all manner of reasons, a la Florida and others..
Make sure that your friends check their own registration and don’t let the bastards stitch you up again.
What are you going to do to keep an eye on Diebold??
Good Luck, we need you to take back your democracy for all of us
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:34 am311..
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:39 amJust a gaffe??? Jeez H Xrist, along with all the other “gaffes”??
Please…
Bush is all those things and to say then hardly qualifies one as a Rabidly Raging. In truth, Bush is the worst president ever, he is a nightmare incarnate… a madman who can’t field or hold an intellectual discusssion who has his fingers on the button..
I bet the 59,000,000 folks who voted for this guy feel like dumbasses now.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:57 amUnbelievable.
If you’ve read Bob Woodward’s book – State of Denial – you will chuckle when you see this lovely interview with George on George action. Bush’s statement was most likely crafted from his advisors.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:03 amRichard said, “Bush is all those things and to say then hardly qualifies one as a Rabidly Raging. In truth, Bush is the worst president ever, he is a nightmare incarnate… a madman who can’t field or hold an intellectual discusssion who has his fingers on the button.. ”
You’re proving my point, dicky-boy. It isn’t conservatives that are the close-minded and hateful demagogues – it’s you! You just agreed that the President of the United States was deserving of assasination!
Let just one progressive respond here and disprove me. Show me where the posters on this board are anything but full of hate! You can’t do it, because it ain’t true.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:27 amThis disaster goes beyond democrat/republican partisanship. Iraq will be price US pays for its easy disregard for going to war with a defenceless country
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:57 amWhen Bush lies, people die.
What’s amazing or ironic is… he lied and justified going into Iraq to pretend we’re fighting terrorists overthere. Instead he created a bunch of them in Iraq. Not just creating, but training killers. I mean if you want to learn how to kill, there’s no better place than Iraq. Iraqis are the victim, they are living in a constant frear everyday.
http://www.postchronicle.net/newsboard
Here’s a Neo Con message board btw, please feel free to go slap some sense into their head.
October 23rd, 2006 at 7:02 amConfucious said: “The first thing that an Empire must do is change the language”.
October 23rd, 2006 at 7:05 amThis is AMAZING. I never thought I’d see this day. This is a huge step , even for Bush.
Bravo Mr. President – nerves of steel.
And people thought Bill Clinton could lie !
October 23rd, 2006 at 7:06 amAm I the only one who thinks we should just leave that god-forsaken country and let the Iraqis fight each other to the last man?
October 23rd, 2006 at 7:25 amThe first act of the next prez should be to identify Bush as an enemy combattant and throw him in jail without access to a lawyer or right to trial until congress makes such detention illegal.
October 23rd, 2006 at 7:30 am311 poster.. Why even bring up Clinton? The difference between Clinton and Bush is that Bush lies got many people killed and that’s still going on. If Congress put Americans first, there would be many investigations about this war but of course it’s a Neo Con part first Congress. I don’t even know if Americans rank anywhere on top 10 except when the election is near.
October 23rd, 2006 at 7:51 am323 –
I bring up Clinton to demonstrate the difference in the severity of invective that is being used against Bush as compared to the severity of invective was being used against Clinton.
Never once did I ever hear a conservative suggest that Clinton (or any other sitting president) should be assasinated. At least two people on this board have suggested that Bush should be, and NOT ONE person has said, “Gee, assasination might be a bit too much.”
October 23rd, 2006 at 7:58 amPlease, American voting public…
The rest of the world is on its knees praying that all people registered to vote exercise their constitutional right, and reverse the republican hold on power.
After one and a half terms of war against everything that isn’t republican, it’s the least you could do. (Oh, and tell a friend)
The British, the Japanese and the Italians have done their bit…
We would be doing our part in Australia if only we had an opposition party…
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:12 am324 If anybody said that, that’s not right. They should retract their statements.
The severity comes from a result don’t you see? Clinton lies didn’t effect people. You look at anything that Bush lied and his doing, tried to destroy social security, cutting social programs, giving tax break to wealthy and squeezing of the middle and lower class, lies about Iraq war, not being accountable with war spendings, national debt, trade deficit, health care, turning the world’s support for America right after 911 to today’s America unilaterl gungho mofo reputation acorss the world and so on… It’s not even comparable. People are outraged.
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:15 am[...] Never I tell you! [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:26 amMy Friend Prime Minister… I think the whole world would want the Dems to take over the Congress. I think the whold world would want to see reasonable, sane, doing good deeds “America of old” to return. I would like to encourage everyone to also vote with their wallet.
buyblue.org
Do not buy bestbuy. Their customer service also sucks whenever you have to return.
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:26 amMost people have no trouble remebering the truth. Most people have trouble remebering a lie. George Bush is a pathological liar.
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:34 amBush’s response characterizes his (mis)administration i.e. bald face lies and the audacity to speak them in a public forum.
What does Bush think we are, ignorant morons like him? I find it hard to believe that even the cultists who comprise his base support will swallow this lie.
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:35 amI’m not sure if any conservative ever suggested that Clinton should be assassinated. I’ll take your word for it, 324, although I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re wrong.
But Ann Coulter publicly suggested a few months ago that someone should poison a liberal Supreme Court Justice with Drano. Coulter and numerous other right wing loons have also branded various Democrats as “traitors” — the penalty for which, of course, is death. Several abortion doctors have in fact been murdered by conservative zealots. A right wing nutball bombed the Atlanta Olympics and another pair blew up the federal building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people. A North Carolina man was arrested earlier this year by FBI agents on charges of soliciting the murder of a judge and the husband of Terri Schiavo.
Political violence is historically bipartisan in this country, although it tends to drift from right to left and back again over time.
In the late 1950s and early 1960s, most of the political violence was at the hands of right wingers, including race haters and Klansmen. But by the late 1960s and early 1970s, most of the political violence was being done by left wing radicals.
Alas, today in America, most of the murderous rhetoric again pours out of the right side of the sewer.
No sane American should ever call for the murder of their leaders, or even wish it. So I’d like to assume that the fellow who seemed to say so in the thread above was surely joking — like Ms. Coulter.
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:55 amAmazing what vodka for breakfast will do to a guy.
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:01 amLoL. Someone hurry and tell Curious George about the technolgy of retrieving files on YouTube, Truthdig, Mediamatters, etc., the Top Gun “Mission Accomplished” photo Op “Junior” did tells yet another spin; “we’ve never been about stay the course! we’ve been about “We will complete the Mission!”??? even a dogs don’t warrant this type of foolishness from his master–I said stay! I meant jump! I mean sit! I meant roll over! I meant blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah! Yawn :0
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:09 amHey, you guys better be careful. This is all seditious speech!!!!
Don’t you remember that the President signed a bill last week that removed the protection of Habeas Corpus? All that has to be done is to find that you are all a bunch of terrorists or are materially aiding terroists and poof!!!! You’re gone, into the Gulag.
I think I’ll report you all right now, maybe they will let me off!
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:16 am[...] http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/22/bush-stay-the-course/?AmericaIsScrewed=true [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:26 am331. Talk show host Michael weiner savage called Madeline Albright to hang for treason. This guy’s nuts at the Phd level.
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:26 amAlmost a classic case of being a True-Believer, except I.Q. does not qualify!
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:30 amHow many more lies can we take from this delusional idiot? Pray the voting machines aren’t rigged and the Dems indeed take the house and senate. We MUST impeach this president and his entire cabinet for the sake of not only our country but for the whole world!
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:40 am[...] President Bush made the same claim over the weekend. It’s not true. For years, the White House has repeatedly described their Iraq policy as “stay the course.” Here’s the video evidence: var flvbush_stay320240 = new SWFObject(’/wp-content/plugins/flvplayer.swf?file=http://images1.americanprogress.org/il80web20037/ThinkProgress/flv/2006/09/bush_stay.320.240.flv&autoStart=false’, ‘em-flvbush_stay320240′, ‘320′, ‘260′, ‘6′, ‘#ffffff’); flvbush_stay320240.addParam(’quality’, ‘high’); flvbush_stay320240.addParam(’wmode’, ‘transparent’); flvbush_stay320240.write(’flvbush_stay320240′); [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:42 amI’m a Canadian and like Americans…You guys need someone better to run your country. Your current leaders are a pack of liars and are getting rich off of their lies.
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:44 amNewsFlash!:Kafka faked own death,wrote another book “The American Experience”
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:47 am- evidently,we’re the characters,he’s still adding chapters and won’t kill any of us off…..
Bill Clinton must have been the one saying it.
Comment by normalasf — October 22, 2006 @ 9:54 am
Yeah, that must be it. That Bush parrot speaking “Stay the Course” over and over must’ve been an evil Clinton clone.
/Please shut the hell up and go away Bush.
October 23rd, 2006 at 10:10 amHey cats, you voted for this. Twice. Soak in it and remember that you get what you deserve, not what you wish for.
Maybe next time you’ll think twice before assuming a priori that you know what is best for other cultures.
October 23rd, 2006 at 10:19 am[...] http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/22/bush-stay-the-course/?AmericaIsScrewed=true [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 10:21 am[...] So today it comes as no surprise that the White House is setting timetables and benchmarks for the Iraqis to agree to by the end of the year, and if they fail to meet those benchmarks, we will change our strategy regardless of the situation on the ground. In other words, the White House flip-flopped. Even worse, Bush demonstrated pure delusion and total mendacity when he said to ABC that he has never stood for “staying the course”, even though he has said exactly that at least a half-dozen times. A man who can lie like that in the face of a large record that contradicts him is a man who has no business being Commander in Chief. [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 10:38 am[...] Bush: ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’ – Nico, ThinkProgress.com [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 10:50 amIf George Bush were a used car salesman, would you trust him?
October 23rd, 2006 at 10:51 amYou have all forgotten that the Repugnants rule the voting machines. That is probably why Bush and Rove are so confident that they will not lose Congress in two weeks. If the Dems take control of Congress, I will be surprised. They probably count one Repuglican vote twice and count one Dem vote only once or some other crooked way of winning.
I hope I am wrong.
October 23rd, 2006 at 10:52 am[...] Yesterday Bush emphatically stated“we’ve never been stay the course”. Today with equal zeal his chief counsel Dan Bartlett said the same thing“we’ve never been stay the course”. Thankfully Think Progress has clipped a nice montage of “Stay the Course” (below the Bartlett video). [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:06 amI don’t remember Bush ever saying “We will stay the course.”
I bet you are taking him out of context… he was probably saying “Only and idiot would say that ‘we should stay that course,’” or maybe “The terrorists are growing in numers. If a terrorist was running our country they would say that ‘We must stay the course’, or something like “If anyone says ‘We must stay the course’ I will label them an “enemy-combatant” and have them detained and tortur..errr… I mean “interrogated” with “alternative methodologies,” he he.
LiberalsMustDie.com
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:15 amWhile serving my country in Viet Nam; I passed through this area where someone had written on a wall ” Fighting for Peace is like F—–g for Virginity”. That’s what we’re facing right now!!!!
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:30 amit’s sad that we have an idiot representing us. i am embarrassed every time w opens his moronic mouth.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:36 am[...] I’d consider moments like these gaffes if it wasn’t immediately apparent that it’s part of a preplanned strategy to reframe the debate since it’s not just the president saying it. But seriously, what could look worse than devoting your entire campaign – publicly and openly – to “stay the course” versus “cut and run” and then telling the American people that all that “stay the course” talk was just a big misunderstanding? It’s one thing to say “we were wrong about ’stay the course’” and then offer a new plan, but this is literally trying to “unsay” something and pretend it never happened. This isn’t Animal Farm, guys! You can’t go back on the centerpiece of your campaign and expect no one to notice, especially now that we have YouTube and Google, which allow every person on Earth to find a highlight reel of the President saying “stay the course” over and over again with a few clicks of the mouse. [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:37 am“Cut and run” and “stay the course” are clever republican talking points. Who would have thought that in order to retain power the republicans would essentially end up countenancing both before an election?
Talk about “two faced” behaviour. It rivals McCain’s shameful sycophancy in trying to win adoration from the likes of the “Fallwells and company”.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:44 amFree and unfettered by reality, President Bush can do and say as he pleases. Imagine never having to admit a mistake because what others are calling a mistake, in your world, never even happened. It sounds like quite a life. Each and every day is truly a new day, because in reality whatever happened yesterday, in your world, didn’t.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:52 amSounds very child like doesn’t it? Boy King is sounding like a very apt desciption of our President.
Get a grip, people. You claim to be the party of tolerance, but your seething rabid rage belies what is in your hearts.
Comment by Bob — October 23, 2006 @ 5:19 am
Hey Bob, if you were dad to the one of the uniformed servicemen and women that have died in Iraq, you’d be entitled to a full share of ‘rabid rage.’ I don’t care that Monica gave Bill oval sex in the oral office anymore than I care that Jeff Gannon performed oral sex in the oval office. How does either one of those have anything to do with thousands and thousands of dead? There’s your entitlement to rabid rage!
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:52 amHey morons, he didn’t deny saying those words, learn to comprehend and not take things out of context.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:54 amElections can be stolen, rigged, bought, sold, frauded.
Leaders/Dictators lie and send our young ones off to fight in a war based on lies…
is this America?
I thought other countries did this…..not Americans…
We are no better than the countries we seek to dominate and clean up.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:57 amChristian Right Winged Republican LIARS…
The new Wing-nut meme: a bold faced lie is now something that is “taken out of context”.
Yeah. Right.
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:04 pmHBO ON 2 NOV.
HACKING DEMOCRACY
EVERYONE NEEDS TO WATCH
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:07 pm[...] If the Democrats ever use this clip, I’m going to be very surprised, but this is important, coming from the most corrupt and incompetent President since Warren Harding. Years of cocaine and alcohol abuse are catching up to him at the worst possible time. [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:16 pmI don’t know how the words, “We’ve never been stay the course” can be taken out of context.
Anyone want to try? PLEASE do. I WANT to hear the explanation. This should be good… *puts bag of popcorn in microwave*
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:26 pmJust imagine the irony when W is arrested for multiple offenses under the Patriot Act; where he’ll be denied habeous corpus and water boarded to cough up the details on 9/11 as to who did what, when and how.
Don’t laugh! It’s headed that way. Why else would the ‘family’ be building a 100,000 acre safe house next to a US military base in a country that does not extridite persons for political crimes? http://www.wonkette.com/politics/george-w.-bush/we-hate-to-bring-up-the-nazis-but-they-fled-to-south-america-too-208549.php
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:38 pmI continue to be amazed that ANY American can support this lying, arrogant bastard. Citizens should be calling their representatives demanding they have the spines (or grow ones) to stand up to this disgrace masquerading as president. He’s destroying this country while the clueless he’s screwing drive around with “support the troops” ribbons. Incredible!
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:41 pmFUUUUUUUCK BUSH
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:41 pmWas Hitler this stupid, or as much a buffoon?
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:48 pmHe may be taking all of our rights, imprisoning and torturing innocent people and making war against countries based on trumped up charges, but he’ll only be a second rate despot until he learns to think on his feet, to remember his own lies, and to pronuounce the tough words like nukular.
[...] Think Progress » Bush: ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’: During an interview today on ABC’s This Week, President Bush tried to distance himself from what has been his core strategy in Iraq for the last three years. George Stephanopoulos asked about James Baker’s plan to develop a strategy for Iraq that is “between ’stay the course’ and ‘cut and run.’” [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:52 pmI AGREE WITH EVERYTHING EVERYONE IS SAYING BUSH HAS LIED AND YES I HOPE HE DOES GET IMEACHED, NO I AM NOT A TERRORIST. I FOR ONE AM A HARDWORKING MOTHER OF 3 THAT DISLIKES WHAT OUR COUNTRY HAS BECOME. RUINING OTHER COUNTRIES FOR OIL AND MONEY (NEVER THOUGHT WE WOULD DO THAT) AGAIN HE HASNT DONE HIS BEST AND UNFORTUNATLY OUR POOR BOYS,HUSBANDS,FATHERS,SONS.ETC ARE DYING AWAY FROM HOME, MISSING GOOD TIMES LIKE CHRISTMAS,THANKSGIVING ETC. WITH THEIR FAMILIES. BUSH HAS DONE NOTHING MORE THEN LIE TO US. THE PEOPLE SUPPOSEDLY HIS PEOPLE, THIS COUNTRIES PEOPLE.
October 23rd, 2006 at 12:59 pmIM SORRY FOR ALL THOSE ILLEGAL PEOPLE THAT COME HERE WITH NOTHING, DYING TRYING TOHAVE A PIECE OF THE AMERICAN DREAM, THEY COME WORK HARD AND FIND NOTHING BUT A HATEFUL, DISRESPECTFUL,LYING,DISTURBED PRESIDENT. IF I WAS THEM ID LEAVE NOT BECAUSE THEY WANT US TO LEAVE BUT BECAUSE THIS IS NO LONGER THE COUNTRY OR PLACE OF DREAMS. MORE LIKE THE PLACE OF NIGHTMARES.
IF I HAD ONE WISH IT WOULD BE TO HAVE WHAT WE HAD BEFORE 9/11 and BUSH COMING INTO OFFICE.ID RATHER HAVE CLINTON GETTING ORAL THEN BUSH LYING TO US.
THANK YOU
GOD !PLEASE BLESS AMERICA
god told bush to “stay the course”.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:03 pmlol! funny shit man
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:08 pmI’m George Bush and I deny this message.
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:09 pmhey so this voting thing for nov 7th is for what to impeach bush sorry ive been working late and havent had a chance to catch up on all his lies and new news. let me know
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:11 pmWatch out for this guy’s next moves after the election. He’ll try to railroad the rest of his agenda through congress. I’ve come to expect only the worst out of him and his cronies they don’t seem even remotely capable of anything better.
If, by some freak of chance or voting machine system code, the republicans maintain control, rational thinking Americans are doomed. What’s my plan B? is there any room left up there in Canada?
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:22 pmWhat a lying sack of crap!
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:30 pmA lie in time saves nine!
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:35 pmcaption contest; “See I have no spine, this is why my head bounces around like a plastic jeebus bobble head doll glued to the dash of a 56 ford pickup with no shocks careening dangerously down an unpaved country road with a drunk cowboy at the wheel.”
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:48 pm[...] I come back from vacation and find Bush whistling a different tune, suddenly claiming he never said we’re going to “stay the course” in Iraq, but that we will “change our tactics.” [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:52 pm[...] (Link) [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:54 pm[...] Since Republicans are standing amidst the failures upon failures of their years of majority iron-fisted rule, the White House released what must be an October surprise for the mid-term elections: Pretend the propaganda they’ve force-fed to the nation was never said in the first place. Bush was on This Week on Sunday and bold-faced lied to George Stephanopoulos and, in essence, the whole of America. STEPHANOPOULOS: James Baker says that he’s looking for something between “cut and run†and “stay the course.†[...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 1:56 pmDoes this surprise me? No and you shouldn’t be surprised either. This administration has been nothing but one big blatant lie. They make very little attempts to hide it and expect that the American public is far to lethargic to do anything about it. They’ve proved this in 2004 when they rigged the election. The evidence for this is overwhelming and yet he continues to pretend to be our “elected†president. If every there was a reason to impeach someone this would it. But sadly nothing will be done and American politics will never be the same. All administration to come will only have to point to this one and say, “See at least we are not that badâ€.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:10 pmu all forget, wen he said it the other times he wos in bizarro land so he wos talkin in opposites!!
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:15 pmthese guys constantly forget that there is a RECORD of the things they say and do… and the minute they deny this or that, someone is on top of it, finding their exact words….!!! so they play us for dummies…. and it seems to work because a lot of people out there ACT like dummies, repeating their words (ex. ‘cut and run’) and agreeing with everything they say and do…….. makes me want to live in a country where there is freedom of thought…… hmmm…… wait a second, i USED to live in a country like that…………..
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:23 pmBush is two bubbles away from plumb if he expects us to swallow that.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:37 pmI have lived in Texas since 1969. The history of Bush has been a joke since his failure in the oil business, his failure in baseball, his blatant failure as Governor, and his 6 years of President is obvious. How this man got elected to office as governor and President is the the greatest mystery that will have to be solved one day. His is dumber than a pile of rocks, inept in speaking the English language, and is a liar when he claims he is a deeply religious man. That is his facade and the stupid christian coalalition believes this idiot. However, I think they are now finding out what a blatant liar his is and has been. I am a Dem but I tell you the truth. I don’t care who is elected President in 08 as long as Bush is gone, gone, gone, never to be heard from again.
October 23rd, 2006 at 2:40 pm[...] Everyone’s blogging about Bush claiming he never said the administration’s policy was to “stay the course”. Now, it seems to me that he may have said it at some point, but I’m not about to take the word of a bunch of liberal bloggers and George Stephanopolus (who was Clinton’s lap dog) over the word of our President. [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 3:01 pmB*sh is both rediculous and sick, so he is “resickolous”.
October 23rd, 2006 at 3:29 pmMy head is spinning, my stomach has knots in it. I am almost at a loss for words. I’m am not sure if I can hold on until 2008. When I hear the lies that this poor excuse for a human being spews from his illiterate mouth I just want to scream. I am a lefty Christian, so with all of my strength I am going to end this with out using profanity. But Bush is nothing more than a pathological lying pile of excrement that has absolutley no purpose on this earth, other than to suck valuable air that could be better used on blowing his anal vapors away!! And when the day comes that he has to pay for all of his sins, that is when I will beable to breathe a little easier. Wow I did it without cursing.
October 23rd, 2006 at 3:40 pmI Really believe the President. He never used the words: Say the Course. He said: Stay the Course. It’s the liberal media that is putting words in his mouth. Again, he never used the words: Say the Course. I guess it depends on what the meaning of “T” is.
October 23rd, 2006 at 3:49 pmThink about this; right now the shrub clan is putting together a deluxe compound down in S. America… Why? I’ll tell you why; it’s only a matter of time until the U.S. either gets it ass kicked in Iraq (my apologies to the military, and my sympathies that they were put in this hellhole to begin with) and/or, the U.S. withdraws its troops and the economy begins collapsing due to no more money flowing in, nor oil flowing out. Ya gotta figure in the nukes as well; with what’s happening in N. Korea and Iran (or what’s going to happen)the shrubs are going to want to be as far from Washington as possible…
October 23rd, 2006 at 3:55 pm386. You can’t possibly think that he never said that. If you have been listening to anything about this War it is a lot of what you here. You can go to the White House site and read the speaches for yourself. He knows that Baker is due out with his teams findings soon after the election so he is just trying to deflect the truth until then. The war is unpopular with the American people. Scare tactics no longer are working and the insanity that the terrorists will follow us back suggests then that Homeland Security is weak. Cut and run is not either, but a plan of getting our guys out and not fighting but assisting by training the Iraqui’s to put in place their own security is the answer. Despite all this, GW has made that remark over and over, he talks better when he has a speach he’s always fumbled if not rehersed. George S didn’t bash him or prove him wrong because he has more respect for the office than to do that to him.
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:04 pmthis administration as, ahem, “president” are so beyond the pale that just when you can’t imagine being shicked by anything they say, do or claim, they find a way to dismay and shock you again.
there’s nothing left to say or write anymore about these people…their disgrace is indelible and will only be compounded with the passing of time.
all that’s left to do in the meantime is console each other, vote for a real change come november 7th (being equally vigilant in voting for years to come), but also hold whomever “serves” in office to thoughtful standards and performance. regardless of party , for that matter. someone actually has to rise to the occasion in serving this whole country’s interest – and believing that we will win and be rewarded by doing so. if we fall into the trap of protecting our own first, and serving the greater good in an equally dishonest and self-serving way as the fools that have been on top the last six (12 years) have, then we’ll be just as petty and hypocritical as they’ve been.
have to admit though, it’d be pretty damn near impossible to ever out-do these people on in terms of dishonesty and disgracefulness…who could ever “top” those who are un-conscionable.”
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:10 pmIt all really depends on what the word “been” means…
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:14 pmDemocracy+two party system=1/4 of ppoulation in control.
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:36 pmWe are all outraged. None of it matters. The idocy is the idea that by venting our mutual discust in these forums we will have any impact.
Are we really so nullified to believe corperations are going to gamble on the feeble and meaningless whims of an election? Both parties are owned, with various degrees of idealism sprinkled throughtout to make to meager minds of the controlled ‘feel’ that they have done thier part in voting. There is no vote. Bush is not so ‘dumb’, we are.
He is out of his frinkin mind. How do we as a Nation allow this crazy bastard to continue to run our government? Every day he stays in office, this country falls deeper into the grip of Insanity. How much is enough?
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:36 pmImpeach Bush!
This is so convienient, all the venting. But as others have mentioned, all the rage in the world won’t change a thing if the voting process is corrupted. WHAT IS BEING DONE ABOUT THE DIEBOLD VOTING MACHINES?
They are readily corruptable, there should be a mandatory parper trail. And where is the outrage over this??
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:02 pmThink Revolution. Discuss Revolution.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:04 pmPolitics are the opposite of progress.
None of what they do really matters.
Could they save the planet if we had a gun to thier heads?
They’d take the bullet, not change the system.
That is the real issue we face, not this inane crap.
They are unstoppable as long as the masses stay complacent.
Get up and organize the Revolution, the planet is burning.
We fight with strong verbs and petty cash and think we have gotten off our asses? We are placated and masterbating in one giant circle jerk of a nation, until someone stands up and starts the god damn future. All it takes is a logical framework, and whoa, we allready have one, sad facts are the constitution is just toilet paper to these individuals, more media fodder to let your mind sing along too. No matter what ’side’ you take, it’s null-> the realization is that it is already too late. We are all as complacent and comfortable as they allow us, just enough to make us fight the urge to march on washington and close that sh*t down. All it takes it organization to end this now. What is it we fear? The earth is burning, what will be left for these assholes to rule over? What is the point of nations and states if the planet is unsustained? Do we really think our choices matter, and if they do, why all this chatter? Power is the real issue. It is all a system of control, a game for the powerful to play. Entropy is real, the critical mass of the facts of our mutual envornment, yet, we still just chase the rich ideal of feeling pseduo-powerful because we can purchase the things we are marketed.
[...] Apparently stay the course isn’t what the cool guys are saying any more. [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:08 pmFor those of you that did not see NBC’s “60 Minutes” last night, take a moment and look up Pelosi’s 15 minutes of fame. She’s just as stupidly ignorant as GW and his cronies, and almost in real power. ‘Right’ and ‘wrong’ do not even represent ideas in her thought process. This political system of ours is in real need of overhaul. How can this be accompolished??? Whatever happened to honesty and integrity?
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:12 pmMaybe he slurred his speech a bit so we misunderstood entirely his subject. As a new Southerner he was takling about antumbelle
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:35 pmbelles who wanted to “stay the corset” But no crossdresser is he.
This insanity comes from a man that is so arrogant that he believes Americans are sheep too pacified and frightened to pay attention to anything but his current sound bite.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:02 pmI stayed the course for one tour in Afghanistan and three tours in Iraq. On one hand, I want him GONE! On the other hand, sometimes I wonder if it’s a good thing Bush appointed himself Planetary Overlord. People in this country that were otherwise lulled into submission by the doublespeak of our political system are finally seeing first hand just how utterly pathetic and ignorant the whole of this government really is. Oh and whoever said Bush was a doorknob, not true. Doorknobs are useful. This a$$hat wouldn’t even make a good doorstop.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:25 pmMy fear, is that he may be right. I would like to see the proof he is not.
revolution is not a history lesson to be once learned and never practiced.
Impeach the ENTIRE government.
An america I used to love is now someplace where I crave for the day when there are large scale marches on washington with corresponding absolute refusal to pay taxes until the repulocrats change.
They do not have the manpower to arrest us all. Too busy killing iraqis.
War is only death. It sovles nothing. It only delays observation of the real issue: the planet is dying. Can we get a RED alert for that?
What will it take? How bad does it need to be?
I vote for revolution.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:27 pmHmmmmm…sounds a lot like….”I did not say Stay the Course with that woman….”
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:34 pmShow your anger…express yourself and vote! Show those who think they can decide for you by deciding for yourself!
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:35 pmHmmmm…..sure sounds a lot like…”I did not say “stay the course” with that woman…..Liar, liar, pants on fire!!!!
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:36 pm#399, Browbeaten: While I’m not thrilled with Nancy Pelosi (or Harry Reid, for that matter), I apparently didn’t see what you saw in that interview. Would you care to elaborate?
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:38 pmthe war is not against american people they are trying to wake americans up if you just took bake you contry and overthrow with popular peoples revoluton and then you can lead you contry to a just and sustaneable future then there will be no more terorists only because you allow greed and corporatons to rule the world is why they fight against you live 20 years in occupide palestine or indonesa and see how much you will love american globalizaton almost whol world is capitalist and almost whol world is poor you can see the truth ALLAH AKBAR
(Surat Al-Isra 17:16)
La Allah illa Allah!
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:42 pm[...] Think Progress [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 7:31 pmsemantics, people. while he sounds like an idiot, you can’t say that the game plan has been unchanged since day 1.
October 23rd, 2006 at 7:46 pmI think that Ronald Reagan in his last years had a better memory than this guy. George needs to start pounding down some Ginkgo Biloba. ……..
I can’t wait to see what The Daily Show does with this gem.
October 23rd, 2006 at 7:58 pmWho are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?
October 23rd, 2006 at 7:59 pm[...] And while people like Kevin Tillman tell the truth, the best the President can do is more lying: During an interview today on ABC’s This Week, President Bush tried to distance himself from what has been his core strategy in Iraq for the last three years. George Stephanopoulos asked about James Baker’s plan to develop a strategy for Iraq that is “between ’stay the course’ and ‘cut and run.’†[...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:09 pm“The President is not a Crossdresser”
per this interview copy from ‘American Progress’ 10/23
During an interview today on ABC’s This Week, President Bush tried to distance himself from what has been his core strategy in Iraq for the last three years. George Stephanopoulos asked about James Baker’s plan to develop a strategy for Iraq that is “between ’stay the course’ and ‘cut and run.’â€
Bush responded, ‘We’ve never been stay the course, George!’ Watch it:
You have misheard the President’s slurred speech. As a new Southerner he got very interested in the novel in which the damsel Rhett Butler is
rescuing from W T Sherman’s depredations asks him to “Stay the CorSET” . But when somebody else mishears the President, and says is it your or your wife’s corset of course he says, with the style all being Antebellum “We’ve never been stay the corSET”
Are we all straigntened out now?
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:14 pmIn a word….’blackout’. This dude is living in a world of daily blackouts!
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:20 pmhmm,, from the very first time I saw and heard king George speak I knew he was full of shit as he remains to this very day
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:55 pm[...] BUSH: Well, hey, listen, we’ve never been “stay the course,” George. We have been — we will complete the mission, we will do our job, and help achieve the goal, but we’re constantly adjusting to tactics. Constantly. (Source: Think Progress) [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:19 pm[...] ThinkProgress documents the denial. [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:34 pmThis is from offical news releases from the white house web page.Check out both of the links. And we’ve got to stay the course, and we will stay the course. The message to the Iraqi citizens is, they don’t have to fear that America will turn and run. And that’s an important message for them to hear. If they think that we’re not sincere about staying the course, many people will not continue to take a risk toward — take the risk toward freedom and democracy.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/query.html?col=colpics&qt=%22stay+the+course%22&submit.x=29&submit.y=14
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:48 pmHELP!!! I’m – 8.25 Economic and – 7.03 Social.
Maybe I’m sick.
Does this mean I might not fit into George’s world?
Don’t suppose nice Mr. Rumsfeld will invite me over for burgers either.
Maybe nice Mr. Dicky will invite me out shooting.
‘course, I’m only English, and I know that means we’re all faggoty assed, tree hugging bleeding heart no hope weedy liberal poodly lap dogs, but HEY! George needs Mr. Bliar to fondle. Even dictators need something to love them.
Good luck America … all you guys we used to love for being the greatest donor nation on earth 30 40 years ago …. we still love you. Not these scum sucking impeachable traitors who are making your decent lives so unliveably deceitful and embarrassing world-wide.
October 23rd, 2006 at 10:02 pmI think it’s time to impeach Bush or start a revolution. We need action, not just talk!
October 23rd, 2006 at 10:58 pmOh, the tangled web we weave…
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:00 pm[...] I didn’t post about Bush’s ridiculous claim, this past weekend, that his administration has never had a “stay the course” policy in Iraq. It just seemed too . . . too obvious a lie, even for this administration, for it to be taken seriously by anyone. The evidence to the contrary is out there, and we’re living in the YouTube age; some industrious teenager has, no doubt, already compiled a series of clips of Bush saying the words “stay the course” over and over again, with “Would I Lie to You?” playing in the background. [...]
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:18 pmthis latest comment is worst than mission accomplished. I used to admire a person who stood by his convictions, but last time I checked we went against King George who lived in England at the time this country was founded. We should not let the President keep beating his head against the wall trying to win in Iraq, it is clearly causing amnesia. This so called war on terror and such creations as The Patriot Act makes me hope that exercising my free speech will not bring me some adverse consequences. Why not seal the borders and maybe we can keep some terrorists out along with the illegal aliens. We had a lot of friends after 911 and we have alienated them with this pre-emptive strategy is wrong. Putting reinforced cockpit doors and firing some people in government that had their heads up where the sun doesn’t shine would have been more on the right path. Idiots in government don’t seem to have an culpability and no one seems to know where the buck stops. VOTE OUT ALL THE INCUMBENTS IN BOTH PARTIES.
October 24th, 2006 at 1:51 am[...] – Bush claims he never said we should “stay the course” in Iraq. Evidently, he believes the Internets are incapable of archiving information like when he said we should “stay the course” on 8/30/06, 8/4/05, 12/15/03, 4/13/04, 4/16/04, or 4/5/04. He probably also doesn’t remember the thousands of times his lackeys in the Administration and the media used the term either. [...]
October 24th, 2006 at 2:34 amlol… don’t you guys get it yet?
HE DOESN’T CARE THAT YOU KNOW HE’S LYING. HE NEVER HAS.
His voting base is semi-retarded to begin with… it’s “faith based”. No one that supports him is going to check back and see if he’s lying, because they “believe” in him. They’re big on believing in the absurd.
These TV appearances are not for you. They’re for the 50 million useful idiots who actually think POTUS believes in god. He shapes their reality tunnels, and those tunnels are malleable, because they’re conditioned to believe what they’re told by those who are “close to god” without questioning it, ever. It’s called faith, and it’s a viral infection that has taken over your country.
October 24th, 2006 at 2:57 amPlease, Please, Pleaseeeee send a copy of this to Fox News. Someone needs to wake that lot up.
October 24th, 2006 at 3:06 amWhy is always the ones who never have to do the actually dirty work and grunt labor who love to preach to others about the importance of “staying the course”.
Pretty good for a total ignoramous unable to correct pronounce “nuke-ya-lur” and, who bailed on the whole thing of seeing actual combat action in Vietnam, huh?
Not to mention his comment about the constitution just being a piece of paper. (That one STILL gives me the creeps whenever I think about it).
Hey… here’s a thought for you… Hows about we actually vote for a common everyday person as president for a change? I mean, Christ! Could we do much worse at this point?!
Or, if nothing else… maybe not vote for ANY politican running for anything anwhere? Remember, “Taking back our country” first requires taking it away from wealthy old goofballs like this egomaniac.
October 24th, 2006 at 4:12 amIs Mr Bush lying? Not really! He’s just incapable of finding the right words. In the examples where he seems to be contradicting himself he meant to say “we will stand firm, hold out until we reach our goal”. In George’s interview he only tries to add (in his infamous way of saying things) “but in order to achieve that, we can change our tactics”. It’s strategy vs tactics.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:00 amI am not an American, no fan of Mr Bush, but know he has a problem to express himself. It is with that knowledge I listen to him.
These people would take a dump on your porch while you were watching and say the dog did it…
October 24th, 2006 at 6:46 am#43 don’t give pot a bad name, (just like alcohol did not make Foley a boy pervert) inhaling doesn’t make you a liar and murderer and thief! He’s simply a crook and if we don’t watch they’ll use fear to steal another election w/Diebold, ESS Ivotronics and Sequoia’s help to rape our country and constitution!
October 24th, 2006 at 8:11 am@430
October 24th, 2006 at 8:33 amI would be offended if I was the owner of the porch and actually believed the one saying the dog did it.
This is one of the hundreds of reasons why I never refer to this worthless biped any more by any name other than “shithead.”
October 24th, 2006 at 8:36 am#429, you said:
So, by that rationale.. who knows if whom is lying? Maybe they’re just bad at expressing themselves! No, no, no… he has lied on camera so many times. That is not fumbling for the right words, that is lying.
But let’s just assume that you’re correct and he’s not lying, just a bumbling idiot with words. Does that bode well when dealing with diplomats, leaders, terrorists? No, when dealing with the delicacies of negotiation, foreign policy matters, etc. you have to choose your words very carefully- you need someone who has adequate speaking skills because they will not only come across as a weak idiot if they fumble their words, it could be very dangerous to have something misinterpreted.
Either way, Bush is a dangerous man. But he IS lying. Anyone can see that.
October 24th, 2006 at 8:36 amThink, two more years …..veto power and signing statements. The nightmare continues. Lee
October 24th, 2006 at 8:52 amThis is incredible. I am amazed that the piople of the United States are tolerating this.
Everytime I hear anything from the Whute House, it reminds me of this 50 year old quote from another weel klnown spinmeister:
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.â€
Joesph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister
October 24th, 2006 at 9:22 amHe’s Stubborn, Stingy, and Stupid; Smarmy and Smug.
He may be our sob, but he’s STILL an sob
October 24th, 2006 at 9:34 am[...] The one thing Medina and Kornblut’s article is missing is Joe’s recent flip-flops over his position on Iraq. Lieberman is now running an ad saying he wants to “bring troops home,” yet he continues to attack Lamont for wanting a withdrawal. In my mind, this hypocrisy is what the Medina/Kornblut article is all about and it would have been great for them to bring the latest round of Lieberman’s revisionism home. Joe’s a liar, plain and simple. He’ll say anything to get elected and he, like the president, is unabashed in his willingness to be caught in a lie. [...]
October 24th, 2006 at 9:38 am#36 may well be correct. Because of Bush, Blair, etc., and their supposed profession of Christianity, many are excoriating that faith. But the founder warned us all beforehand; “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them … a bad tree bears bad fruit” (Matthew chapter 7, verses 15-17). Bad fruit doesn’t get much worse than the stupid and counterproductive “War on Terror” and the horror of Iraq.
That said, my fellow Christians who on these issues have abdicated the use of their minds and their conscience, who close their eyes to the facts, deserve whatever abuse they get from “liberals” and “atheists”.
October 24th, 2006 at 9:50 am[...] Via John Cole: Bush has decided not to “stay the course” on the issue of whether he is “staying the course.” [...]
October 24th, 2006 at 9:59 am[...] So Microsoft has put together a search engine experiement which is getting more flack than this. That’s kind of sad isn’t it. [...]
October 24th, 2006 at 10:10 amBush is the man! The best president we have in a long time. He is tough, focused, flexible, realistic. He just gets the job done, no BS, a true leader.
October 24th, 2006 at 11:30 am[...] George Bush decides the “Stay the Course” mantra never really happened. [Think Progress] [...]
October 24th, 2006 at 12:02 pmAnyone else remember that lost season of “Dallas”?
October 24th, 2006 at 12:27 pmI get it…..
The problem with the country is that we all have should have short-term memory loss. We are not supposed to remember anything our public officials say. It is our fault for remembering details like this. I think we need a Constitutional Amendment banning the use of video and audio recording equipment. In addition, the amendment needs to preclude us from having a memory span greater than two months and everyone will need to have chips planted in our brains to allow for memory erasing at any time. (Naturally, Halliburton will receive a no-bid contract to perform this duty.) By allowing this amendment to pass, we will protect our loved ones from the terrorists by eliminating any memory of their existence (or that the Iraq war increased their numbers). If the amendment fails, we all lose because we will remember terrorists exist!
October 24th, 2006 at 12:34 pm[...] Think Progress has a list of instances when Bush & Co. used the phrase since the beginning of the war. Meanwhile, they’re starting to say “timeline†and “timetable,†which, until recently, was language reserved by us leftist defeatocrats. But, as with all things in the Republican machine, political calculation trumps all: Republican strategists were glad to see him reject the language, if not the policy. “They’re acknowledging that it’s not sending the message they want to send,” said Steve Hinkson, political director at Luntz Research Cos., a GOP public opinion firm. The phrase suggested “burying your head in the sand,” Hinkson said, adding that it was no longer useful signaling determination. “The problem is that as the number of people who agree with remaining resolute dwindles, that sort of language doesn’t strike a chord as much as it once did.” [...]
October 24th, 2006 at 12:35 pm[...] Today, CNN reports that President Bush has dumped the “stay the course” phrase. Over the weekend, Bush said, “We’ve never been stay the course.” [...]
October 24th, 2006 at 1:12 pmFact:
it is imparitive that we rebember that this is an educated man that has won two ellections, so to say that he is an idiot is imposible and irrational.
however we can say that just like a liar he does seem to be having a problem with keeping his story strait
October 24th, 2006 at 1:12 pm[...] [1] Think Progress: Bush: ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’ [2] Think Progress: Bartlett: ‘It’s Never Been A Stay The Course Strategy’ [3] White House: President Bush Holds Press Conference (December 15, 2003) [4] White House: Press Conference by the President (October 11, 2006) [5] Democracy Now: The End of Maliki? Will a Coup Unravel Iraq? Robert Dreyfuss and Raed Jarrar Discuss the War in Iraq [...]
October 24th, 2006 at 1:50 pmI’m always voted for Conservative Republicans on election day. I believe the “official” RNC platform best fits the way I think and feel about humanity in general.
That being said, I will be voting straight-ticket Democrat in two weeks…and I’ll also be voting for whomever the Democrats nominate to run for President in 2008. The choices our current Republican leaders have made, for the most part, make me ashamed to be affiliated with the Party.
I see now that we Christians have been mis-led by the Republicans, much in the same way blacks and poverty-stricken people have been mis-led by the Democrats.
I now see very little difference between the two political parties we all get to choose from. We need a strong third-party to emerge, one that can somehow remain immune from the reaches of corporate interests/lobbying.
October 24th, 2006 at 1:58 pmWho’s the flip flopper now?
October 24th, 2006 at 2:12 pm“It depends on your definition of the word “is” is. ” Roll to October 2006. It must depend on your definition of “we” “will” “stay” and “course.” How pitiful and pandering both of these very small men are. From oral sex in the White House, to sacrificing our young men’s blood for electoral and “oil” company greed. The last 16 years of leadership can be characterized as “THE WORST GENERATION.”
October 24th, 2006 at 3:34 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZE20lzZZF0
October 24th, 2006 at 4:10 pm[...] Originally Posted by White2000GT Success in Iraq still possible, say top US officials – Financial Times – MSNBC.com Ok, let us analyze. Just last week GW was saying that we will not leave Iraq until the war is won. Now, amid growing dissent even among his own Party over the war in Iraq, he has decided to give up the "Stay the course" phrase. And now, FINALLY a deadline of sorts is beginning to form. Top military officials are predicting a full withdrawal within 18 months. Hmm… 18 months eh? That is right before GW will FINALLY be out of office FOREVER! Seems to me that GW is trying to set himself up with a "I won the war in Iraq" exit from office. I tell you what, I used to be a stern supporter of Bush and the war in Iraq. But, the past few months I have finally begun to realize the extent to which he and his administration have lied to and deceived the American public. I now see that he is a Baboon. Dick Cheney is the Baboon’s purple ass, and Rumsfeld is the poo that is flung from the Baboon’s purple ass. The only thing that helps me to sleep at night is knowing that he can never be elected as President ever again. What the hell are you talking about? He was never "stay the course" that wasn’t his phrase. At least that’s what he said in THIS interview. I love how the bullshit flies from both parties. __________________ There are 3 kinds of people in this world. Those who can count, and those who can’t. [...]
October 24th, 2006 at 4:20 pmIt is as much a cultural character in the United States to engage in denial of the obvious, as it is a political or social strategy. We have from our founding, relied on the future to solve our present difficulties, from slavery to a woman’s right to vote. In some cases, the future has brought resolution, but many times not until the costs exceeded the achievement of the benefit. The lost Iraqui lives, the exaccerbation of world terrorism, and the loss of credibility and conscience in our society and amongst nations regarding us, are costs that may well exceed any perceived benefit. The lives lost are irreplaceable and our national building effort a myth. The President was elected by Americans, and as a nation, we must hold ourselves accountable for his administration and its policies, even those of us who voted against him.
October 24th, 2006 at 4:36 pmAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 24th, 2006 at 4:37 pmCan someone please just impeach his ass before we all go insane!
This dope is a national embaressment. It won’t be good enough to simply win the upcoming elections. We need to win and then impeach him, and then arrest him. Wouldn’t his exit from the White House make a great special edition of Cops. I want to see him dragged from the white house handcuffed and in his underwear.
sdf
October 24th, 2006 at 4:37 pm[...] The Bush administration has launched a coordinated effort to convince Americans it has never had a stay-the-course strategy in Iraq. On Sunday, President Bush said, “We’ve never been stay the course.” White House Counselor Dan Bartlett disavowed the label again yesterday. [...]
October 24th, 2006 at 4:48 pmHmmm, maybe it is Mr. Bush, rather than Reagan, whose thinking has been muddled by Alzheimers. Still, we must remember that today is another day, and this President seems to believe that the American public only looks forward for fear of what is behind us. Though he deny’s “stayinq the course,” you can be certain he and the Republican Party will never forget “Cut-and-Run.”
October 24th, 2006 at 5:02 pm[...] On Sunday, President Bush told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos that his Iraq policy has “never been stay the course.” (Today, Rumsfeld disagreed, calling suggestions they were backing away from the phrase “nonsense.”) [...]
October 24th, 2006 at 5:52 pmStay the Course: Another Democrat Dirty Trick…
I certainly don’t remember the President ever saying anything about “stay the course” being the strategy in Iraq so suspected that this was another Democrat dirty trick….
October 24th, 2006 at 7:43 pmLiving proof the stupidity and be purchased by the pound- all you need is money.
October 24th, 2006 at 9:10 pmIs it just me or has his nose gotten bigger?
October 24th, 2006 at 11:24 pmOver His Head, and Sinking Faster…
Every time I see and hear George W. Bush speak, he validates my belief that he is simply incompetent as President. As the son of Bush Sr., he was strategically selected to run for President by others, it never came from himself. As a result, he consistently appears strained, ackward and anxiety-ridden, and generally lacking mental clarity, especially when he can’t rely on a prepared script. He’s simply doesn’t have the gray matter to handle the job, and relies on Cheney, Rove, and the “commanders in the field” to do the critical thinking for him. And a President who can’t think clearly and logically brings disaster for the country. This disaster has been building up since Day 1 of the Bush presidency. And these days it seems to have reached a crescendo. The Bush legacy is indeed taking shape as a legacy of imcompetence and failure.
October 24th, 2006 at 11:40 pmLook, if George W. Bush did actually choose to stay the course, Edna really wouldn’t take it lying down. No, she’d take it kneeling down. Wouldn’t you?
October 25th, 2006 at 12:17 amPer Rush Limbaugh: “It’s all Bill Clinton’s fault.”
October 25th, 2006 at 12:17 am[...] Faced with widespread disappoval of its Iraq policy, the Bush administration launched a coordinated effort this week to convince Americans it has never had a stay-the-course strategy in Iraq. On Sunday, President Bush said, “We’ve never been stay the course.†White House Counselor Dan Bartlett disavowed the label again yesterday. [...]
October 25th, 2006 at 2:37 amYou all know that this man cannot speak english very well. He speaks the language but does not understand what he is talking about. I bet you that he really does not know the meaning of the sentence “stay the course”. He is lying again and the poor and stupid people in some part of the red states will believe him again. That’s really pitiful!!!!
October 25th, 2006 at 3:11 am[...] That brings me to the topic at hand: What is the problem with the Republicans and their inability to grasp and deal with reality? From today’s headline alone we have these two gems: Iraqi Realities Undermine the Pentagon’s Predictions. Yeah, the Pentagon is run by Republicans. And then there is this one: “We’ve never been stay the course.” Does it get much better than that, Bush claiming he has never been stay the course. What can you say to stuff like that? Then on Sunday I was listening to NPR and the report the did on one of the reddest of red states Nebraska. More particularly they interviewed people in the town of Broken Bow, Nebraska (aptly named I must say). And one lady talked about her support for the war in Iraq and how it was the right thing to do to protect our country from Iraq. [...]
October 25th, 2006 at 7:01 ambush should be tripping over his nose if all his lies were exposed.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:47 amWhat we need to do is get lying by politicians to be classified as obscene language by the FCC. (Personally, I believe it is the most obscene form of speach.) Then each time this asshole, or any of the others, lies to the people they work for, they’ll be fined. I believe the fines start at $100,000 and increase for each additional infraction. Lack of truth is so hibitual, I don’t think it will take them long to lie themselves into poverty. Then we can watch as they rethink their positions on the minimum wage and other social programs.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:03 amHe’s a politician. Politicians lie. Thinks YOUR politician is better?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:11 amI’m glad to see how many people have seen through Shrub’s lies. With regard to seizing his passport, that’s a great idea! I think he should also be added to the no fly list along with other terrorists! And if he tries to fly somewhere he can be arrested as an enemy combatant and sent to who know where for “interrogation” about his crimes and lies. He would cave at the first tinge of pain. Coward. Liar. He’s been giving aid and comfort to the enemy (bin Laden) for 5 years. After 9/11, he removed troops from Saudi Arabia (which is why bin Laden attacked in the first place – NOT because of our “freedoms” (which Bush hates) He has been behaving just like Saddam (dictator – killing people).
October 25th, 2006 at 12:16 pmAnd they say that Kim Jong Il is crazy? It used to be that I simply wondered, wondered about why things were happening, wondered who was doing what, wondered how things got to be the way that they are. I no longer wonder.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:08 pmPerhaps there is more to that story then just “Bush lied!”
Let’s go back to the beginning:
Forget ’stay the course’ for a moment. Is ‘cut and run’ really true?
I think what happened was that Baker was trying to establish himself as a smart man between two ’stupid’ camps and Bush rebuked him.
In effect Bush said that his ’stay the course’ strategy is not that simple, but nuanced and flexible. Granted, it was first time in five years that he said that. Still, by saying that now he upset Baker’s set-up and thwarted Baker’s attempts to pigeonhole his strategy in Iraq.
The Left should have taken cue from Bush and called on Baker, “Hey, who you calling ‘cut and run’?” Instead we hear the old refrain “Bush lied!”
Just think, the old Republican wheeler-dealer painted you as ‘cut and run’ crowd all over again and you just stand there, dripping fresh paint, and bray “Bush lied!”
October 25th, 2006 at 1:38 pmThis bears a strange resemblance to a political phenomenon about which he was very critical during the 2004 elections.
It’s known as flip-flopping.
Waffling, if you will.
Oh, dear.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:08 pmPerhaps he was originally suggesting dinner courses. Like “we will stay [through the meat] course [and not just leave after the soup course].” Originally, he may have wanted to dine with his enemies. This is more the peace-loving and diplomatic leader we have come to love and respect.
I realize there is a lot of paraphrasing (perhaps, even exaggeration) here, but accuracy and truth doesn’t seem to have any part modern American ethics, so I’ll go with it.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:11 pmJust another lie….I can’t belive a word that he says! it seems like everything he has ever told us has been a lie…and they just keep comin’
October 25th, 2006 at 2:43 pmHe’s guilty of malfeasance, and countless high crimes and misdemeanors. Impeaching him in January will be a cakewalk for the restored Democratic majority in Congress.
October 25th, 2006 at 3:39 pm[...] On Sunday, President Bush told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos that his Iraq policy has “never been stay the course.†(Today, Rumsfeld disagreed, calling suggestions they were backing away from the phrase “nonsense.â€) [...]
October 25th, 2006 at 4:28 pmIf his lips are moving, he’s lying!!!
October 25th, 2006 at 6:34 pmFLIP FLOP!!!
October 25th, 2006 at 6:37 pmWhat a complete LIAR!!!!!!! Does this idiot think that everyone in our country is as stupid as he is? Perhaps now people will stop being sheep and think for themselves. Use your mind when you vote in November!!
October 25th, 2006 at 7:25 pmWhen the ventriloquist is speaking the words, you can’t expect the DUMMY to remember what was said.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:23 pmDoes anyone doubt that Pres. Bush, “The Decider”,
is America’s Biggest Bullshitter?
The guy is a hopeless, hapless fake and
October 25th, 2006 at 11:58 pmthe nation’s Traitor-in-Chief.
I’VE GOT IT!!!! President Bush recently watched the 1944 movie “Gaslight” with Ingrid Bergman and Charles Boyer, where Charles Boyer decided to make Bergman believe that she was crazy. He would tell her one thing, and then contradict himself hours later and tell her something completely different and deny that he had ever said the first thing. That is what George W. Bush is trying to do to the American People when he says “we’ve never been ’stay the course’”. Yup our president is deliberately trying to drive us mad.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:56 amI, Uncle Sam, the spirit of American values, have something to say. I should get up and kick all yours asses, for being to kind to Bush, stop all your namecalling and denounciation, AND KICK HIS #$% OUT OF OFFICE, EXPOSE ALL HIS CRIMES AND PUBLICALLY HUMILIATE HIM TO THE POINT WHERE HE COMMITS SUICIDE, after all he doesn’t deserve to be impeached or even assassinated, HE DESERVES TO BE COMPLETELY DESTROYED.
October 26th, 2006 at 2:57 am[...] We’ve Never Been Stay The Course [...]
October 26th, 2006 at 9:19 amBush está siendo manipulado por esferas de otra dimensión a las cuales no podemos acceder.
October 26th, 2006 at 10:05 amEs mucho know-how invertido en ello. DifÃcil comprenderlo!
[...] I’m not in the Keith Olbermann fan club or anything (I know I was praising him the other day), but watch this (via Crooks and Liars) for a montage of Bush’s now-abandoned “message” and a good chuckle, and then shake your head in disbelief when you follow it up with this. [...]
October 26th, 2006 at 10:56 amHeartlandLiberal:
Sir, you know not how true you stand.
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
-George Orwell, 1984
October 27th, 2006 at 7:24 amWhat do you suppose would happen if NOBODY voted in any election ever again?
October 28th, 2006 at 1:32 amI hate to think what type of a world this will be when Bush’s term is up and someone not so obvious takes his place. He will be the “Savior!” He will fix all that Bush messed up! And then the fist will close even tighter around our throats, cutting off the very lives we didn’t care about enough to fight for.
October 28th, 2006 at 1:37 amAnd George’s most common argument against Kerry, what seems like an eternity ago… he flip flops, he’s a flip-flopper! Is he just mouthing words that someone else is feeding him or is he just that G__d___ stupid?
October 28th, 2006 at 8:55 pmWhenever I think that things can’t possibly get more insane with this clown as our president, I remember that the majority of people who bothered to vote last time reelected this s**-of-a-b****! He is more a reflection on the sad state of this country as a whole when we allowed this a**h*** to continue for four more years!
October 28th, 2006 at 11:12 pm[...] George Bush a Favorite politican for the Republican Negro Elite says, We’ve Never Been Stay the Course. [...]
October 29th, 2006 at 3:07 pm[...] Take a look at the video and then follow the links in the Think Progress story that take you to the White House website, for instance, where you can read the quotes for yourself. Sure, we all can recall clearly hearing the words “stay the course” come out of the Prez’s mouth, but to hear him speak these words–”We..ve never been stay the course”–with about having a seizure is well nigh impossible. [...]
October 29th, 2006 at 10:24 pm#493 I need to clarify something. I didn’t mean “Savior” as in Jesus second coming or something. I just meant savior, as in saving us from the lies of Bush. That type of savior.
October 30th, 2006 at 9:14 amStay the course………. Fore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 31st, 2006 at 12:51 pm[...] No shifting in priorities because of opinion polls? Hmmm. Does he mean, like, that whole Stay the Course thing? Or maybe he’s referring to George Allen, who put out a campaign commercial decrying negative personal attacks three weeks before launching negative personal attacks on Jim Webb: Allen’s attack on Webb’s novels occurred three weeks after the senator gave a two-minute speech pleading for a return to issues after having defended himself against personal-character scandals for months. “The negative personal attacks and baseless allegations have also pulled us away from what you expect and deserve,” Allen told voters in the unusual paid television commercial. [...]
October 31st, 2006 at 1:37 pm[...] In one of the most egregious attempts to revise history, President Bush told ABC News' George Stephanopoulos that "we've never been 'stay the course.'" Now, I know this kind of deluded, Bill O'Reilly-esque "No I didn't" type talk should be expected from the Bush administration but this is wrong on so many levels. Think Progress offered a few of the many — many — instances when President Bush vowed to "stay the course." Bush is wrong: BUSH: We will stay the course. [8/30/06] [...]
November 1st, 2006 at 4:31 amListen to the actual quote and not what some liberal nazi says that he said. The President was clearly referring to not having one set guidline for the war. He said “Well, hey, listen, we’ve never been “stay the course,†George. We have been — we will complete the mission, we will do our job, and help achieve the goal, but we’re constantly adjusting to tactics. Constantly.” If you have half a brain you can see that the meaning is that we have never had just one policy for Iraq but instead have and will always have a comprehisive flexible policy.
November 1st, 2006 at 10:27 am#502. “… the meaning is that we have never had just one policy for Iraq but instead have … a comprehensive flexible policy.”
Yes, we gathered that. This is a lie. That, I believe, is the point.
November 1st, 2006 at 7:32 pmTake off the gloves. Stop with the nicey nice talk. It’s time to pull no punches and kick these bastards where it hurts.
OUTRAGE PAGE
November 2nd, 2006 at 12:09 pmYou libs can make all the simple minded jokes you want, but it doesn’t change the point that Bush was making about liberals/media trying to change the definition of “stay the course.” “Stay the Course” has meant winning in Iraq and finishing the job. It has not meant never adjusting plans or tactics as democrats have insinuated. Perhaps Bush could have done a better job explaining his point, but at least he did better than “stuck in Iraq.”
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:08 pmYou can listen to my two cents on the subject in an acoustic ska/rock song I wrote called “Stay the What?”, which you can listen to at MySpace.com/IsItSafeMusic.
The fact that the administration can say something for a few years and then openly say that it’s “never been what they were doing” is ridiculous in itself.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:28 pmYou fools all get hell bent over three words. “What about all the times he said those three words??!?!?” The point is not the words, it’s the meaning behind them. Bush is saying that we aren’t just doing the same old thing but that we are sticking to the original plan, just with different tactics.
Just because you hate the man doesn’t mean you are right.
November 4th, 2006 at 12:03 pmIt’s not Bush that’s delusional – it’s the American people. You accepted Bush as your dictator in 2004 (well I didn’t see anyone taking court action about that fiasco), so you are reaping the benefites of your years of goggle-box, booze and weed.
November 5th, 2006 at 8:35 pmGet off your overfed arses and do something about the man nad his perverted cabal.
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November 7th, 2006 at 12:21 pmAt least Bush respects the Military, unlike the Liberal wacko’s hero, John Kerry
November 7th, 2006 at 1:36 pmTo look at some of these comments is like being slapped in the face. Since when do people in the United States disrespect a President like this during a time of war. I’m an Army Veteran who has served in Iraq, and to see people talk about the president the way they do is revolting. Personally, I have never met a soldier that bashes bush, only these crazy liberals that have nothing better to do than to complain. You have so much to say about this war, why don’t you do us all a favor and join the military and help get the mission accomplished faster. George Bush may not seem like a genious that has all the right answer, and that’s because he’s not. But I’m willing to bet he graduated from a better school than most that make these obscene comments. For God sake, he’s our commander and our leader, a little bit of support will go a long way. Maybe we should focus our attention on the rest of these politicians who can’t vote for themselves and have to vote on party lines to make their party happy. Atleast President Bush is getting something accomplished, even if it is outside of our borders.
November 7th, 2006 at 2:28 pmThanks for the laugh! I hope the dummo-crats continue to be hateful and spiteful towards their fellow Americans – it suites them.
November 8th, 2006 at 2:39 pm[...] Flip: Stay The Course Flop: Don’t Stay The Course “It may not be popular with the public. It doesn’t matter, in the sense that we have to continue what we think is right,” Cheney said. “That’s exactly what we’re doing. We’re not running for office. We’re doing what we think is right.” [Source: Washington Post] [...]
November 8th, 2006 at 8:04 pm# 511 – What exactly is he accomplishing? Because many times he has been asked questions such as Why did we send troops to Iraq? He has generally more than one answer and really no real reasons for doing anything. Since you are so knowledgeable and have served in the military, perhaps you inform people about what exactly the Iraq war is all about instead of complaining about people that have every right to express their opinions about someone who is supposed to be a leader but has only lied to us. So please tell us all, enlighten us, inform us on why you fought and killed innocent people in Iraq.
November 9th, 2006 at 10:55 pm# 508 – That’s exactly the point! He is not our “dictator!” He is supposed to be President and there are supposed to be three houses that decide the laws and we vote, but we did not even actually get to decide that because all the voting was rigged! When will everyone wake up? We are under a fascist dictatorship. Look at the signs. Open your eyes. Before it’s too late!
November 9th, 2006 at 10:58 pmIt will come like a thief in the night.
November 9th, 2006 at 11:23 pmI think we are supposed to be talking about what we are going to do about this instead of just slamming Bush and stating the same facts over and over and arguing about whether or not what is what, etc. It is called Think PROGRESS, not Think About the Same Thing Over and Over.
November 9th, 2006 at 11:29 pmI think what the President was trying to say here, though he did so in a typically ineloquent fashion, is that the United States is not rigidly focused on a single all-encompassing “plan” that is failing. The truth is we don’t know what to do in Iraq, we thought we would be welcomed into Baghdad with flowers, not car-bombs. I think Iraq was a huge mistake, but we have enough other evidence that Bush contradicts himself, lets not waste our efforts on what is easily dismissed as a misspoken word.
November 12th, 2006 at 2:11 amI believe we should “wake up and smell the roses!” The fact is we cannot win against Islam and terrorism. I have to agree with the Democrats that it is a no win situation – however you look at it we need realize that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world with hundreds of millions of converts. There is no way to turn back their desire to rule the world. We should do as some of the Democrats want to do and accomodate the Islamic movement as much as we can now in order to prolong the inevitable demise of our life styles. Hey, look at it this way the Islamic movement will take straighten out our young people and drugs will be gone!
November 14th, 2006 at 8:45 pmHas the world gone mad! we have no respect for our president thats done more then Clinton . Support our President now ! or we are going to be in a world of trouble & Please suppprt our Troops.
November 18th, 2006 at 11:22 am[...] Gee, Mr. President… that sounds suspiciously like STAY THE COURSE. And I thought we weren’t all about that anymore? [...]
November 21st, 2006 at 4:31 pmI’m afraid everybody missed the point.
I don’t think anybody ever asked Bush directly (on camera?) what does “Stay the Course” mean?
DOH!
So, now that he’s run into trouble, he can trot out his own definition and it’s always meant what he just said.
No harm, no fowl…
November 23rd, 2006 at 1:08 pmI’m sorry, but this whole administration is the worst thing that has ever happened to america. All the mess they got us into in the name of defending terrorism? Everything that’s been done in the name of 9/11 is worse than the actual attacks! I love the Democrats, have always been one, and am very excited about the new Congress, but I am very upset that the Democrats don’t have impeachment on the table for Bush. They always say they are high and mighty and are better than the Republicans, but sometimes you need down and dirty tactics to beat down and dirty people. In a CNN interview with Nancy Pelosi, she didn’t even think of impeachment when she was asked about it. The Democrats need to toughen up, and the Republicans, god, where to start….. The Republicans just need to all die.
November 28th, 2006 at 5:15 pmD’oh–what he really meant was I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
November 28th, 2006 at 5:36 pmsttttuuuuuuuuuupppppiiiiiiddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 1st, 2006 at 4:14 pm[...] President Bush Says ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’ During an interview today on ABC’s This Week, President Bush tried to distance himself from what has been his core strategy in Iraq for the last three years. George Stephanopoulos asked about James Baker’s plan to develop a strategy for Iraq that is “between ’stay the course’ and ‘cut and run.’†Bush responded, ‘We’ve never been stay the course, George!’ [...]
December 6th, 2006 at 8:32 pmlink for Bush making escape plan to Paraguay
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/10/347592.shtml
December 9th, 2006 at 10:27 am[...] Google News gave me this article as related the first one I linked, and while it gave my twisted right ankle a break by leaning so heavily to the left (thanks, by the way), it did make some decent points. If I had a nickel for a every time I heard a, “I don’t know, I just don’t like him,” about a candidate… I’d have a shit-load of nickels. I’ve even found myself saying it, which sort of makes me shudder now. A gut reaction, even if it’s manufactured, is an extremely powerful force. It’s so hard to break away from seeing someone as what they’ve been painted as. John Kerry got labeled as a flip-flopper (ugh) by George “We’ve Never Been Stay The Course” W. Bush? And Kerry got his war record criticized? Come on. [...]
December 11th, 2006 at 12:11 pm[...] “Whose life would be on my hands as the commander in chief because I, unilaterally, went beyond the international law, went beyond the stated mission and said we’re going to show our macho? We’re going into Baghdad. We’re going to be an occupying power — America in an Arab land — with no allies at our side. It would have been disastrous. We don’t gain the size of our victory by how many innocent kids running away — even though they’re bad guys — that we can slaughter. We’re American soldiers; we don’t do business that way.†[...]
December 12th, 2006 at 11:02 amIt’s obvious that President Bush is a liar. He said that we have never been stay the course, but stated that we will complete in mission. But, on 8/30/06, he claimed we will stay the course. I don’t really get that! Duh! He’s a liar!
December 17th, 2006 at 9:37 pm[...] This is only slightly less outrageous than Bush’s claim (made by Bush himself this time, rather than some anonymized factotum) that he’s never advocated for staying the course in Iraq: [...]
December 24th, 2006 at 8:43 am[...] Posted in Video, Government, GOP, Iraq War, Election, Bush Administration at 8:05 am by LeisureGuy If you lie often enough and long enough, you totally break any connection to the truth and will lie when there is no reason to and when the lie is completly obvious. Case in point: George Bush: denying, on camera, that he’s ever been “stay the course.” But: BUSH: We will stay the course. [8/30/06] [...]
January 7th, 2007 at 9:28 pmPresident Bush sucks my ass! I support our troops but not the war. Wish someone would assisinate that idiot already , Geeze!
January 9th, 2007 at 11:19 amCommander in chief, please be a true commander. If you believe you need to lead our troops in a surge..then lead them. YOU be the first to go.
I really think that you are a very very smart man…and very very evil. You have ripped up lives of us citizens. You are imparting terror of a different name to Iraq. You have three missions,
1) evaluate the potential of WMD — that has been done
2) Get Saddam Huessain — that has been done
3) Allow the Irqis to find their own leadership– they have. It may not be the leadership YOU thought they should have but its their choice!
Now…get the hell out of Iraq with our men.
Get our continental states secure…get our ports secure….get our medical pigs (insurance, pharma) under control —-(oh yeah, you cant do that they support most of the GOP candidates financially at least by 50% or more)….get to the bottom of why you went after enron (was is so bushs stock would do better??) but did not go after any other groups..unless they were opposed to your idealisms…..
YOU ARE NOT AMERICAN!~…you dont earn the right
January 11th, 2007 at 2:29 pm#510 Your comment intruques me….lets see, who served overseas for our military?? bush or kerry?
To me that answers the question of respect for our military. One went and served, the other went awol, and then cried to his daddy to make it right. He is still doing that, the only problem is he is taking lives that should not be taken because he has no skill to make this sort of decision and no humbleness to respect the families involved.
January 11th, 2007 at 3:31 pmJesus, what a liberal suck-fest this site is.
January 12th, 2007 at 8:58 pmhola nozomi estrayas aikago
January 29th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
Speaking of W, I have to throw this video link in here for a little comedy relief. If you haven’t already seen this George Bush spoof rap video, you got to check it. Haha, cause he’s a “curious George”…
February 7th, 2007 at 2:06 pmI retired from the Navy after 20 long years and I am ashamed of the Bush babies. Bush has killed close to a million military and civilians in the midldle east and his testosterone ego won’t let him stop. Take off the cowboy boots, George, and admit you’re an ass. Maybe you can go into baseball again and your daddy can bail you out of that one. Your middle east policies are the work of Haliburton and Pat Robertson. Ain’t nothing like a Jew. Please go home and let someone else try to fix this shit hole you, dick, Condi, and God knows everyone else in your inbred party have created. George, you’re a miserable failure. Clinton got impeached for getting blow jobs in the white house. You’ve killed close to a million people in the middle east and your buddies are trning a blind eye. When was the last time someone wanted to give you a knobber? Who’s the beast here? Sleep well you aragant sob. Nothing like a civil war to bring on that peaceful slumber.
February 20th, 2007 at 11:58 pmMaybe by the time the elections are over the death toll will be close to 2 million. Won’t you be proud? Have fun in Crawford you pig.
February 20th, 2007 at 11:59 pm
There is a clause in the Constitution that a War Time President can become a Dictator. This is why he wants to stay on the course of War, this is why he is getting away with everything by saying that he is a War Time President and can do anything that he wants to. He is well on his way of being the first President to become a Dictator.
President Nixon found a way to control this country (become a Dictator) and they set him up and got rid of him. The president is the outcome of Nixon’s find, this is why he compares himself to Nixon.
Purchase a Sortwave Radio and listen to other countries news about us because our Newsmen are not allowed to tell us the truth about what is going on. Look what happened to Dan Rather. We are the only ones in the dark every other country knows the truth about Americans. Go to infowars .com
February 26th, 2007 at 11:18 pm[...] the Bush to claim, after two years of pushing a “stay the course” strategy that, “we’ve never been stay the course.” It’s the culture that allows the Whitehouse to claim, despite numerous on the record [...]
February 28th, 2007 at 5:44 pm[...] can be found at http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/story?id=2594541 Other quotes courtesy of ThinkProgress.org [...]
April 13th, 2007 at 7:14 pm