Bush: ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’
During an interview today on ABC’s This Week, President Bush tried to distance himself from what has been his core strategy in Iraq for the last three years. George Stephanopoulos asked about James Baker’s plan to develop a strategy for Iraq that is “between ’stay the course’ and ‘cut and run.’”
Bush responded, ‘We’ve never been stay the course, George!’ Watch it:
Bush is wrong:
BUSH: We will stay the course. [8/30/06]
BUSH: We will stay the course, we will complete the job in Iraq. [8/4/05]
BUSH: We will stay the course until the job is done, Steve. And the temptation is to try to get the President or somebody to put a timetable on the definition of getting the job done. We’re just going to stay the course. [12/15/03]
BUSH: And my message today to those in Iraq is: We’ll stay the course. [4/13/04]
BUSH: And that’s why we’re going to stay the course in Iraq. And that’s why when we say something in Iraq, we’re going to do it. [4/16/04]
BUSH: And so we’ve got tough action in Iraq. But we will stay the course. [4/5/04]
Full transcript:
STEPHANOPOULOS: James Baker says that he’s looking for something between “cut and run” and “stay the course.”
BUSH: Well, hey, listen, we’ve never been “stay the course,” George. We have been — we will complete the mission, we will do our job, and help achieve the goal, but we’re constantly adjusting to tactics. Constantly.
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Hmmm. Must have been Steve Bridges going around saying “Stay the course.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:51 amjust when you think it can’t get any more ridiculous.
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:51 amthe man is a joke.
I honestly believe he is clinically delusional.
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:52 amBill Clinton must have been the one saying it.
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:54 amHe is speaking to the “Dummys” who believe that idiot. Wow
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:55 amIs Bush so stupid that he can’t remember what he says? He was like a parrot with one line, “Stay the course. Stay the course. Stay the course. Squawk!”
I’ve been thinking…Before the Iraq War there were portions of both parties that opposed the war because they predicted basically exactly what has happened, progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans. Now we have this Iraq study group led by Jim Baker and a group that doesn’t have any of those types of party members in it. Do we really think that the portions of the political parties that couldn’t visualize the Iraq mess to actually be able to come up with a solution? I suggest an Iraq study group that has progressive Democrats such as Dennis Kucinich (OH) and libertarian Republicans such as Ron Paul (TX) and give them a chance to come up with a solution. They were right once, they have history on their side.
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:58 amIs shrub really SERIOUS?! Where does he think we Americans have been for the past three years, hiding under a rock?!
Apparently, he does.
Un-freakin-believeable.
October 22nd, 2006 at 9:59 amYes, we have….to the detriment of ourselves and the Iraqi people. Have we no conscience left? Repeating mistakes only amplifies the mistake; repeating destructive behavior(s) only entrenches those destructive behaviors deeper….unfortunately, I have to agree with Bush this time: We have stayed the course…..and where has it gotten anyone?? The blood of not only our own military but the Iraqi citizens is now on the hands of this country. Can’t imagine what the karma of these horrors will be?
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:01 amRules of GOP logic:
War is peace.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:01 amWrong is right.
Up is down.
Death is life.
Lies are truth.
Bill Clinton did it.
Why doesn’t anything make any sense at all anymore? Even under Reagan, you sometimes had glimpses of sanity. But maybe something’s is wrong with _me_
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:02 amLet’s put these film clips together and make another Democrat campaign video!
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:03 amBush is only in the middle of rewriting history per 1984 newspeak.
“Stay the course, stay the course, stay the course.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:04 am“I never said stay the course.”
“We have changed course throughout the war. We have changed course. We have changed course.”
Why does George always look so squirmy wormy with his head cocked one way or another? Looks as if he has no spine whatsoever.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:05 amBush is nipping at the bottle again…
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:05 am#11…and run the video on FoxNews.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:06 am“just when you think it can’t get any more ridiculous.
the man is a joke.” by Jim
absolutely
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:07 amBush can’t distance himself from his own stink because the pile of shit he stepped in and that’s stuck to the bottom of his shoes is his own. Iraq is his mess and his failure and will be his preaidential legacy. A legacy of failure.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:10 amBut did Stephanopoulos quote back to him times when he did say stay the course? Oh hell, it wouldn’t matter, he’d say, of course we said that because blahblahblah.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:12 amMan that fish just jumped in the boat! Might as well head off to brunch and call it a day huh?
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:12 amAh, but Poppy Bu$h and his cronies are building the ultimate “back door” for GDumbya right now. FoxSnooze is even playing its part in this little dance.
The foundation is now being laid for the final and definitive resolution of GDumbya’s political and military fiasco — “it’s Bremer’s and Maliki’s fault”.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:13 amThey should have followed that clip with all their clips of him saying ’stay the course’. Bushleague must be counting on America’s five-minute attention span that they won’t remember all the lies.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:13 amTWO WORDS - “ANIMAL FARM”
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:16 am[…] Empty words […]
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:17 amANOTHER TWO WORDS - FLIP FLOPPER
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:17 amThis idiot makes me want to scream “My brain hurts!” Next, he’ll be telling us he did find the WMD’s — as suicide bombers. Picture Jon Stewart in his best Bushie impression: “Ya see, those car bombs, they’re destroying the masses. 600,000, that mass destruction of the masses right there.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:18 amONE IRREFUTABLE WORD - LIAR
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:18 amJust when you think the bar can’t possibly be set any lower in this regime, GW manages to sink to all-time new lows.
Hitler got away with fooling the German people because he was smart about it. Bush is a doorknob, on his best days. Anyone left who still supports this man is insane.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:18 amjust because he constantly said we will “stay the course”, doesn’t mean he was stay the course. he’s a liar, remember?
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:20 amJust add this whopper to the long list of lies.
#3. I agree. He has to be clinically delusional.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:20 amThe regular trolls have been obviously silent lately…. Hmmm. Have even the loyal 29% begun to have enough?
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:21 amAnd a new talking point is born. We were never about stay the course–when we said “stay the course,” what we meant was “complete the mission.” Two entirely different things. Because, uh, one’s tactical and one’s strategic. Or something like that.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:21 amHey just because he said it a thousand times doesn’t mean he said it.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:22 amBushCo has always used mixed messaging. It’s how they use the media. It’s similar to how ThinkProgress uses the media on behalf of the Democrats.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:25 am#21
You are right. George S. and his crack research staff should have had those clips ready to counter Bush’s denials. It is hard to believe that Stephanopoulos would not have thought that Bush would have denied making those statements. But it would be a good bet that even if George S. had done that , Bush would have smirked “Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?”
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:26 am“I will not withdraw, even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me.”
–George W. Bush, talking to key Republicans about Iraq, as quoted by Bob Woodward
Sounds like ’stay the course’ to me… Or that his dog is present while he is having sex with his wife (or vice versa)
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:28 amPLEASE……the man is not delusional! He is BAD….VERY VERY BAD. I wish people would stop excusing him. Delusion suggests that the person is not really responsible. That is NOT the case here. It is about greed, power lust, willful ignorance and hatred. He is not interested in the truth, or his fellow man. He knows he said stay the course and he knows he is now saying……we never said stay the course.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:29 amHe hops ( KNOWINGLY) from political strategy to political strategy in order to save his lying ass and the asses of his thug friends. He has been playing us from the beginning. This stupid delusional thing..way of describing him HAS TO END in my opinion, and he needs to be held accountable…on every level.
It’s too easy to say he is delusional as we shake our collective heads in disbelief. Believe it. He is not a good person. And he is in full command of said person…….
Next, he’ll be telling us he did find the WMD’s — as suicide bombers. masses right there.â€
Comment by ericnh — October 22, 2006 @ 10:18 am
“I would guess, I would surmise that some of the more spectacular bombings are done by al Qaeda suiciders.” –George W. Bush, on violence in Iraq, Washington, D.C., Aug. 21, 2006
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:32 am#33 BushCo has always used mixed messaging.
This is mixed, this is confused, crazy…
It’s how they use the media. It’s similar to how ThinkProgress uses the media on behalf of the Democrats.
Maybe. However, the latter use I can live with. But what happened to honest discourse not viewed through the caleidoscope of party politicking? F***ing hell.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:34 amThe guy is pathological.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:36 amHe should have a mental examination.
Morning all, Just another Sunday in this bull shit bush bizarro world…..This “stay the course” and “war on terrar”, his spelling not mine, has been their mantra from the beginning…Rather by neglect or design we are now at nearly 2,800 or more lost service personell..That’s 2,800 famalies that have lost a loved one..Then we have the 660,000 Iraq, men, women and children that have died for bush’s war machine…..I can not even get my mind around that. The word is genocide.They call it a war and now hope the public will shift their thinking from “Stay the course” to keep voting for us….Failed and murderious ideal’s have gotten us here all in the name of relegion and oil…..WTF is wrong with this entire bunch of polaticians in our administration. We have been sold out.On the one hand we have the neo-cons and on the other we have the enabelers…Our country and the world is broken and it is the fault of everyone who voted these lieing profesed christian’s into office…..The “war on terror” is like war on dust bunnies or ghosts…..Stop this madness and killing, vote all in office out and put new people in on all side’s…..While the Rep’s are loosing their grip the Dem’s are not standing up and speaking out..So dump them all and get new one’s in….Blessings
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:36 amPS The GOP thugs also use the tactic of confusion very well. They flip flop and accuse others of flip flop…..and on and on.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:36 amNotice all the posts here were people say their head hurts etc…..cause IT’S CONFUSING!! Bush contradicting himself is the ultimate finger to the American people. It’s as if he’s daring us to play a clip that shows him saying “stay the course.” Cause ya know what? He’ll then be able to have the fun of laughing at us even more….it will be even more fun for him. Cause he thinks he is now ALL POWERFUL. What a kick for him eh? There is divide and conquer, therefore the very successful lib/con wars Rove encouraged….and then there is confuse and distract…….they do that well too. The confound our reasoning process so we will fall into their hole …….which is not rational, fair, understandable…..and thus……..NOT ABLE TO BE ATTACKED AND CONTROLLED. i.e. A MOVING TARGET ………….But. He’s gonna lose. America is better than all this and it will prevail.
I think Bush inhaled.
A lot.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:36 amHeh, I think I have found a cure for that..One thing the fundies hate worse than anything is to be called Wackos by their own [supposedly] party.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:37 am“Bin Laden says his own role is to tell Muslims, quote, ‘what is good for them and what is not.’”
–George W. Bush, Washington D.C., Oct. 6, 2005
“I’m the decider, and I decide what is best. And what’s best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the Secretary of Defense.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:37 am–George W. Bush, Washington, D.C. April 18, 2006
How stupid does W take the American people to be? As stupid as he is? W and every one of his pals (Veep Cheney, Rummy, Condi Rice) have been blabbering on about nothing but “stay the course” since Iraq went to hell. The lies continue.
Hear about this? Some nutty WSJ spin-off is predicting that Republicans will keep Congress in Novemeber. http://polibuzz.blogspot.com/ 2006/ 10/ gop-survival-in-november.html
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:39 amThat’s kooky. The right-wing media just will not stop this Dem bashing. The GOP is dead; get over it.
The words of a sane man?
“In this job you’ve got a lot on your plate on a regular basis; you don’t have much time to sit around and wander, lonely, in the Oval Office, kind of asking different portraits, ‘How do you think my standing will be?’”
–George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 16, 2005
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:41 am#37 It’s too easy to say he is delusional as we shake our collective heads in disbelief. Believe it. He is not a good person. And he is in full command of said person…….
Unfortunately, by his being The Prez’, this judgement is automatically discounted. Only after the sickness has burnt itself out can one see clearly. That freakish Austrian (no, not Schwarzie!) also sounded reasonable at the time, otherwise parliament would not have given him what he wanted.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:41 amWhat’s scary to me is that this is an intentional ’strategery’ thought up by Rove (because we all know that Bush does nothing without him). And despite being clinically evil, Rove is not stupid. So the logical conclusion is:
Yes, they really do think the American public is that dumb. Or too fixated on Desperate Housewives / Xbox / missing-white-girl-of-the-week to really think about what a monumentally pooch-screwer he is.
THAT’S what terrifies me- that they have such contempt for Americans that they a betting on getting away with it.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:41 amLIAR LIAR LIAR. No one believes a word that Bush says anymore.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:41 am“Who could have possibly envisioned an erection — an election in Iraq at this point in history?”
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:42 am–George W. Bush, at the white House, Washington, D.C., Jan. 10, 2005
#36…
I agree 100%. This is a man who will lie right to your face, and not bat an eye. It’s been that way since day 1. He (and those around him) have no conscience; they care ABSOLUTELY ZERO about human life. To them, the public is just the lower, dumb masses to manipulate.
Now I’ve read that he bought a 98,000 acre farm inn Paraguay, after said country agreed not to bring criminal charges against Americans for war crimes or crimes against humanity. If this is true, it without doubt shows the evilness of this administration and Bush.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:42 amHeh, I think I have found a cure for that..One thing the fundies hate worse than anything is to be called Wackos by their own [supposedly] party.
The wackos get their information form [sic] the Christian right, Christian radio, mail, the internet, and telephone trees.-Michael Scanlon [former Delay aide]
Comment by Dog_named_Boo — October 22, 2006 @ 10:37 am
Ouch!
Wow, that’s a terrific find! You should post that on every thread where a neocons starts defending the regime for the next two weeks (hopefully we won’t need it after that :)
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:45 am…you don’t have much time to sit around and wander, lonely, in the Oval Office, kind of asking different portraits, ‘How do you think my standing will be?’â€
–George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 16, 2005
You will when the Democratically-controlled House votes on articles of impeachment on you, and then you CAN wander the halls talking to the portraits just as Nixon did in his final days. Is that where the image came from, George? Comparing yourself to Nixon again? I wonder what brought that on? It wasn’t that the two of you shared a maniacal desire to increase the powers of the Office of the President, was it? Here’s a little heads-up for when you finally start wandering the halls talking to the portraits: I hear the Abe Lincoln portrait is a smart-ass.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:48 am“Give me a chance to be your president and America will be safer and stronger and better.”
–George W. Bush, Marquette, Michigan, July 13, 2004
Well, we see where that’s gone…
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:48 amOh yeah…. in case anyone missed it:
DOUBLETHINK
It’s about how you can stay the course without actually staying the course.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:49 am#44 Beautifully juxtaposed, unbelievable. Well done.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:50 amIndubetedly!
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:50 amNow I’ve read that he bought a 98,000 acre farm inn Paraguay, after said country agreed not to bring criminal charges against Americans for war crimes or crimes against humanity.
Comment by wixif — October 22, 2006 @ 10:42 am
Where’d you hear it? If true, that’s the surest admission of guilt he’s made so far…
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:52 amI can’t WAIT until we get to impeach this bumbling, LYING BASTARD.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:54 amI could not watch this segment on This Week. I can’t listen or look at Bush without anger. They plan on using the same tired “cut and run” on the Dems until after the election, and then I believe, they will do exactly that–with of course, James Baker’s blessing. Again, this buffoon, who has never been responsible for ANYTHING in his life, or for any of the subsequent consequences will be bailed out by “Daddy (’41) and his friends.
I was never in favor of this war–but to wait until after the elections to make changes in Iraq is immoral and is the most compelling argument that this Administration doesn’t give a fiddler’s fart for the lives of our military or for the will of the people of this country. BRING THIS WAR TO AN END NOW, AND BRING THESE KIDS HOME NOW–not after the election.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:54 am#51 It’s been that way since day 1.
Remember Ari Fleischer telling everyone at his first press conference that the outgoing Clinton Administration had committed all kinds of vandalism before leaving? They repeated the story constantly but couldn’t/wouldn’t provide any proof. Finally a GAO report found that none of it was true.
Now I’ve read that he bought a 98,000 acre farm inn Paraguay, after said country agreed not to bring criminal charges against Americans for war crimes or crimes against humanity.
Let’s make sure we seize his passport at 12:01 PM on January 20, 2009 (assuming he stays in office his full term. I can dream, can’t I?)
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:54 amHere’s a little heads-up for when you finally start wandering the halls talking to the portraits: I hear the Abe Lincoln portrait is a smart-ass.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — October 22, 2006 @ 10:48 am
That was hilarious…
At this point, it’s either laugh or cry at where we are. I just hope that in two weeks, we’ll solve this problem with ballots. ‘Cause if not, I don’t like what’s next…
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:55 amBeautifully juxtaposed, unbelievable. Well done.
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — October 22, 2006 @ 10:50 am
Thanks… Though I doubt the trolls will get it. Most times it seems like we’re just preaching to the choir when we point these things out.
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:56 am#53 Lol
Hey Wayne is your blog still up? I wanna check it out but I forgot the address…
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:58 amDiplomat: U.S. arrogant, stupid in Iraq
A senior U.S. State Department diplomat caused embarrassment in Washington after telling Arab satellite network Al Jazeera that there is a strong possibility history will show the United States displayed “arrogance” and “stupidity” in its handling of the Iraq war. The White House has distanced itself from the comments.
http://www.cnn.com/
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:00 am#63 yep good point
Where are the trolls anyways? Are they finally realizing that King George is a nutcase? Exlax? Hendler? Darryl Hitler? Where are you?
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:01 amWhere are the trolls anyways? Are they finally realizing that King George is a nutcase? Exlax? Hendler? Darryl Hitler? Where are you?
Comment by NewProg — October 22, 2006 @ 11:01 am
Church?
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:03 am#62 I hear you, unbelievable. If you haven’t been keeping track elsewhere, there’s a great website that does projections on how the House and Senate races will turn out.
http://www.electoral-vote.com:2006/
During presidential elections, they project the electoral college results. It’s looking solid for a turnover in the House, and the Senate is looking at a 50-50 tie as of today, but that will likely change one way or the other. At least with the House under Democratic control, they can begin investigating the abuses of power and the money stealing by the contractors. Impeachment would be nice, but I would rather have all the crimes exposed first. It’s not just the president and veep who are corrupt and immoral, it’s many in the Repulican leadership. (I’m sure there was more than one Duke Cunningham since it was his party’s intent all along to have just this kind of relationship with the lobbyists.)
I agree that if at least one House doesn’t change, it could be really, really bad for us (and Americans in general), but especially those of us vocally dissenting with them. These Republicans have really been losing it lately, haven’t they? I wouldn’t want them remaining in power if they’re going to become this unglued.
But if it’s bumming you out too much, click on my name and visit my blog for some odd humor and musings. I posted a few things this morning. Enjoy.
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:05 amHendler is on the thread above this one…
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:07 amUnbelievable
I think I saw his on cnn.com. It really shows how far Bush is from reality. He really thinks this war will just be a comma in the history books? He has no clue that he may be ending the Democracy of America. In all honesty George Dubya Busch deserves to be impeached NOW!
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:07 am#64 NewProg,
Click on my name anywhere these past few days where it’s clickable. I set it to go to my blog. I know most people’s name go to “null”, but mine goes to my blog now. All are welcome to stop by before returning to the wonderful people here at Think Progress. :)
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:07 amI had to watch it three times to believe it happened, and to make my head stop spinning around. WHAT? We’ve never been ’stay the course’? I want the borg unplugged, and I want our country back. I was not so much for impeachment when the Democrats take over Congress, but now I’m changing my mind. This is criminal insanity and stupidity. I see six quotes of ’stay the course’ which must have taken little effort. I’m sure you could come up with 100 in no time. Why would George S. have had quotes ready when that response is implausible? If I was interviewing the nutjob and he said that, I would have just laughed and said “no, you’re kidding, right? You’ve said we’re staying the course about 500,000 times.” Just when you thought it couldn’t get any more ridiculous…
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:08 amFrom 16th April 2004: http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/images/war.239.gif
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:11 amWayne good posts on your blog!
You are libertarian? Crazy Conservative Libertarion, or Normal Libertarion?
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:11 amWayne,
Thanks for the link… You notice how the states that are strongly Republicans are not exactly states that live in the current century? No surprise there.
I’m the eternal optimist - but with reality always in sight. I probably won’t be officially bummed until we’reon our way to Gitmo is orange jumpsuits… :)
But I will check out your website. Always enjoy what you and Jane haveto say…
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:11 amIn all honesty George Dubya Busch deserves to be impeached NOW!
Comment by NewProg — October 22, 2006 @ 11:07 am
I couldn’t agree more…
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:12 amAs Gov. Ann Richards said, Bush “was born with a silver foot in his mouth” and he never spit it out.
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:13 am#69
Yeah I noticed Jason was up there bothering our fellow liberals. He is really desperate to think he can win a single debate. He is the sexist guy right?
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:13 amhe also used the big word “myopic”, in reference to others, of course…
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:14 amhow ironic is that…
another day in “opposite world”…
Church?
Comment by unbelievable — October 22, 2006 @ 11:03 am
Yep, probably at that psycho God Hates F**GS Church!
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:16 amI’m waiting for him to say it is all the Dems fault for starting the Iraq war.
The dry-drunk needs another drink.
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:19 amI’m the eternal optimist - but with reality always in sight. I probably won’t be officially bummed until we’reon our way to Gitmo is orange jumpsuits… :)
Comment by unbelievable — October 22, 2006 @ 11:11 am
Unfortunately that day for us is coming sooner and sooner. I fear it will come before Nov. 7th but I hope I am wrong…
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:19 amBig Brother says “We’ve never been ’stay the course….We have been — we will complete the mission…’”
And now the Ministry of Truth must get to work changing every past record of “stay the course” to “complete the mission.”
The sad truth is, 30% of the American populace will buy the lie and parrot back that Bush has never been “stay the course.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:22 amYou know who I feel sad for? Exley
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:25 amThat guy has to work his ass off to find something, anything in GWB´s words, so he can say: Well, actually, the president is not lying…blah, blah, blah. Must be hard work to defend murderers and stupid people.
why would we deny the proper authorities the right to come and take him in the cookie truck to the asylum for help?
what the hell is wrong? I think this is leaking into insanity, collective, ubiquitous, ….. how do I describe it when everyone in my government acts like they are either paralyzed, or insane?
I can only go on proof, and the facts are in. there is no one left that is rational and balanced.
how many of us look at our government like this?
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:27 am#74 NewProg,
As I describe myself in the profile, I’m a Liberal, Libertarian, Humanist Atheist and not at all ashamed to admit it. I didn’t know the liberatarian side of myself was there until I checked out http://www.politicalcompass.org. They have a short, five-minute quiz and at the end they tell you where you stand on the political compass compared to famous people. They tell me that I’m more liberal and libertarian than either Mohatma Ghandi or Nelson Mandela. I’m proud of that.
Thanks for the compliments.
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:27 amThe man is a real idiot. He cannot even get his lies straight. If you couldn’t fool Stephanopoulos, how can you deceive a whole country?
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:32 amI could not watch that segment on “This Week” because I cannot stand the lies from this man. For that matter, I never watch his press conferences or his other pr efforts. We have had 6 years of nothing but lies and obfuscation.
What enrages me the most however, is this “cut and run” that the Repugs are going to use for the next to weeks to try to retain power. Yet, the Bush family “fixer” is doing everything to save this clowns ass and his presidential reputation–I am willing to lay odds that immediately after the election, Bush declares victory in Iraq (or a variation on that theme) and pulls the troops either back as John Murtha recommended almost a year ago or Iraq is divided into three as Biden has repeatedly called for.
Message to Karl Rove and Closet boy Ken Mehlman, the american people know you are liars and have had enough. To think that this is the party of so called “values” you people are contemptible and repugnant to use our military as pawns. There is a special place in hell awaiting all of them for what they have done to our country and to those innocent people in Iraq!!
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:32 am#58 UnB.
About
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:33 amParaguay . I dont know if this is what you were exactly looking for…
The sad truth is, 30% of the American populace will buy the lie and parrot back that Bush has never been “stay the course.â€
And of course, this means that 66.67% of the votes will go to The Party That Shall Not Be Named.
Revisiting old comics rocks: http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/images/war.299.gif
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:34 amMan I should really be off to work now.
It is not like we have video & audio tapes
of bush saying that we will stay the course
or books & newspapers that quote him saying
just that.
He is like Hitler in the battle of Stalingrad leaving
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:39 amhis army to die or be captured as the Russian Winter
closes in.
THERE ARE ‘Results 1 - 10 of about 1,110,000 for “Bush stay the course.” ON A THING CALLED GOOGLE, DO YOU THINK PPL WILL NOTICE?????????
see ARTICLES
http://www.defworld.blogspot.com
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:47 amDO YOU THINK PPL WILL NOTICE?????????
No. Do you?
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:53 amGWB being interviewed in obscurity in the year 2020:
Q: Mr Bush, how does it feel knowing you were ranked in a recent study as the worst president ever?
A: I was never president.
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:53 amMore fun with quotes out of context:
STEPHANOPOULOS: James Baker says that he’s looking for something
BUSH: Constantly.
Anyway it was just as informative as the original.
October 22nd, 2006 at 11:57 amI asked around my work. 85% of the people answered that GW’s theme is/was “Stay the course.” Why are we not like those other countries, where when their corrupt governments get to be too much, they revolt? We need to rise up, overthrow, impeach, remove these lying liars. Let’s try to regain that admiration that the U.S. once felt and had in the world. Let’s take back our country. Remove Bush, by any means possible.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:01 pmthis guy lies so much through his teeth you can actually see the lies pertruding out of his mouth.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:02 pm[…] The operative phrase is ‘changing tactics’ not changing ‘the course.’ […]
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:03 pmNautilusguy,
We don’t govern by polls.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:03 pm-GWB
#96 Remove Bush, by any means possible.
So, is it time yet to break out all those guns that the gunnies hoard to ‘guard freedom’? I mean, if you have that big pile of guns and you don’t at least point to it in a threatening way when the time’s right, what’s the use?
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:05 pmPosted this on the wrong thread — try again:
Another thing that bothers me: Presumably Stephanopoulos knows what questions he’s going to ask. Why is it he has no research in front of him to back up a follow up question?
Do they all buy into BO’s ridiculous assertion that one does not get confrontational with the president?
Need I say Clinton…?
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:05 pm#86 Thank Wayne A. Schneider. It is cool site http://www.politicalcompass.org. Thank for the link. My score is Economic Left/Right: -3.13, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.54.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:05 pm#102 yangho,
You’re welcome. Mine was like -7.5 to -8 for both the last time I checked. They change the questions every once in a while and a recent set asked questions relating to current events. It’s good to check it out from time to time just to see if what you learn changes how you feel about the world.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:16 pm…how many of us look at our government like this?
Comment by oldtree — October 22, 2006 @ 11:27 am
hopefully, enough…
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:18 pm.
#101 And I went and replied onn the wrong thread. Sorry folks.
Do they all buy into BO’s ridiculous assertion that one does not get confrontational with the president?
Only the cowards like Bill-O (aka “Lying Manâ€). Apparently he never read a little thing called “The First Amendment†which guarantees citizens the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. As long as you don’t get physical, you have every constitutional right in the country (sadly, not yet the world) to get verbally “confrontational†with any politician, especially the highest one in the land, if they are going to lie to you or try to make you believe something that is not true.
And I don’t know why Little Georgie didn’t have better notes handy. Maybe, just to try to give him some benefit of the doubt, he figured that Bush had made that statement so many times that he just couldn’t believe that Bush would deny saying it altogether, so he didn’t prepare a montage. I would love to see someone ask Bush to look at a clip of something he said, and just instead show him Jon Stewart doing his Bush laugh during the “Ten F&*%ing Years†review of their stuff on presidents. It was hilarious! One Jon Stewart “Bush laugh†after another. (heh-heh-heh.)
Apologies, everyone.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:18 pmYeah I noticed Jason was up there bothering our fellow liberals. He is really desperate to think he can win a single debate. He is the sexist guy right?
Comment by NewProg — October 22, 2006 @ 11:13 am
Sorry for the delay, I had to grade some stuff…
Yeah, a ‘pest’ is a great description for Jason, come to think of it. :)
Sexist. That’s a compliment for his view of women. If it were up to him, we’d all be barefoot, perpetually pregnant while in the kitchen with our tongues cut out so we couldn’t speak. He’d make it illegal for us to drive, vote, read or write. Fashion would become the style of the Purtians and
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:19 pmwe’d be forced to attend church daily. Under Jason’s ideology, women would be fifth class citizens - right after dogs, asses and oxen…
Bingo…..I’m sure there are a host of trolls and wingnut talking heads that are spliting a vain going….â€wha wha wha what?????â€â€¦..all the Fawn Hall’s of wingnutland have just been called in on this lovely Sunday morning to do a whole lot of scrubbing….
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:20 pmYep, probably at that psycho God Hates F**GS Church!
Comment by NewProg — October 22, 2006 @ 11:16 am
Aren’t most of them like that?
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:20 pmAnd now the Ministry of Truth must get to work changing every past record of “stay the course†to “complete the mission.â€
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — October 22, 2006 @ 11:22 am
Not that it will be different from the existing written histories on the past, where those with ridiculous power will scribe the history they wish existed rather than the one that does…
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:22 pmI’m chilling with the Dalai Lama at (Economic: -3.50,Libertarian: -6.26). Damn, I thought I would be more authoritarian than that. Weird…
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:22 pmBush, you make me sick. He must be removed before he can do more damage.
C’Mon JAG’s, read your oath, then read the law.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:24 pmWhat must he do-shred the constitution in your faces?
zooey - that was rich…
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:26 pm.
i wonder if history has ever had a leader who has been this imcompetent, toss in bush’s talking with god and the iraq war and america has a real problem with credibility.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:26 pm#86 - Cool site, Wayne.
My score was Economic Left/Right: -4.38, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.97
More liberal and libertarian than Ghandi, Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama. Too cool…
Thanks!
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:26 pmJuan,
Thanks for the link. This makes me SICK!
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:29 pm“With Bolivia’s recent uprisings, their enormous gas reserves, and a presidential election on the way, this questionable activity could pave the way for a U.S. intervention. Rumors of Al Qaeda training grounds near Paraguay may also work to the Bush administration’s advantage as it makes a case for military operations in the region. “
“Stay the Course” is still #5 on the “Top 10 GOP Sound Bites List.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:31 pmHere’s another one that caused me to ROFL: http://www.mnftiu.cc/ mnftiu.cc/ images/ gywo.six_to_nine.gif
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:34 pm…Do they all buy into BO’s ridiculous assertion that one does not get confrontational with the president?…
Comment by Zooey — October 22, 2006 @ 12:05 pm
since i heard an explanation (on franken? randi?) that these talking heads - not olielly - like tim and george and chris - can ask some questions, but the important thing is the answers are ON RECORD, i’ve been able to wrap my head around the fact that those guys want to keep their jobs too, and i’m grateful for the RECORD… the proof is right here in this thread…
but, yes, for the sake of getting the criminals on record, for probably the most confrontational they can get, they hold back, i’m sure…
and i wonder how keith would do in a head to head… bet he’d back off too… that damn “respect for the office” thing…
it’ll be good to get that back also…
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:36 pm.
There is no doubt in my mind that CBS abd GS did have the GW’s quotes refuting his own statements.
I think that after reviewing the raw interview. They probably determined they didn’t need to because it is obvious to all viewing that the President has lost his grip on reality. He is really looking like Nixon in the last days lately.
What was the salient point of A history of English Speaking Peoples since 1900? That if he did read it, he cannot comprehend any learnings. Or he lied again. Oh yeah, what he said was history: time will tell. Same as the theme of My PEt Goat.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:41 pm[…] Accepting the catastrophes in Iraq and in Afghanistan and doing nothing to change course is not a serious, adult position that only serious, civil senators take while the rest of us run around in a state of beheaded-chicken-like anger. I don’t think that outrage is a sufficient condition for the label of seriousness, but it undoubtedly is a necessary one in this day and age. If that anger prevents a politician from being called civil, all that is revealed is the inadequacy as civility as a metric of political seriousness. […]
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:48 pmbet he’d back off too… that damn “respect for the office†thing…
it’ll be good to get that back also…
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Comment by katy
Given Keith Olbermann’s Special Comments over the past few weeks, I doubt that he would be given the chance to interview Bush. But if he ever did, I doubt that he would do it solely on their terms. I’m sure he knows that if he ever gets a shot at it, it would be his only one. He also understands, I’m sure, that protecting your access to someone who isn’t going to tell you the truth anyway does no one, least of all the American people, any good whatsoever. And besides, respect is earned, not automatically given to a person. Why show respect to an office that its current holder doesn’t show?
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:55 pm“GWB being interviewed in obscurity in the year 2020″ - Zooey
or maybe it will read:
“GWB being interviewed in his cell at The Hague in the year 2020…”
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:55 pm“GWB being interviewed in his cell at The Hague in the year 2020…â€
Comment by Briseadh+na+Faire
I could definitely live with that! His response would be the same.
October 22nd, 2006 at 12:58 pmWayne I like the site
I got -5.0 for Left/Right and I got -6.0 for Libertarian/Authoritarian. I seem to fit pretty close with the Dalai Lama. SWEET!!!!!
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:01 pmtime to put this idiot in prison for crimes against humanity
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:02 pmUnbelievable you are correct
Sorry for taking off, I had other things to do. You are correct in your assessment of the freak show Jason Hendler. How could a man say these horrible things about women? No wonder no one will date him…
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:04 pmtime to put this idiot in prison for crimes against humanity
Comment by andyville — October 22, 2006 @ 1:02 pm
No arguement there…
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:05 pmI’m chilling with the Dalai Lama at (Economic: -3.50,Libertarian: -6.26). Damn, I thought I would be more authoritarian than that. Weird…
Comment by El+Tonno — October 22, 2006 @ 12:22 pm
Yeah me too! (I had Economic: -5.0, Libertarian: -6.0) Damn I was so hoping to be a troll ;)
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:08 pmAccording to the political compass site, I scored
Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
Maybe it has to do with the fact that I’m a Scorpio and the moon entered Scorpio this morning? ;-)
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:12 pmThis guy can’t tell the truth if his life depended upon it. I just seen the video of King George caressing that male prostitute, and rubbing the back of his head then kisses him on the cheek. He needs to come out of the closet, but he’s lying about being gay too.
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:13 pmHow could a man say these horrible things about women? No wonder no one will date him…
Comment by NewProg — October 22, 2006 @ 1:04 pm
Apparently he was married and she left him, so therefore, in the absolutist view of the Christo-Nazi neocon that he is, one woman defines all women. Just like he thinks that three or four pedophile teachers makes us all pedophiles. Nevermind that there are HUNDREDS of pedophile priests and Republiscums that he defends daily. And, he won’t apply his own absolutist logic to himself or his “people”. He’s a total hypocrite.
No one will date him. But to him, that couldn’t possibly be his own doing. Yeah, right - the party of personal accountability….
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:18 pmYou know how I can tell a man is a neo-conservative within a 2 minute conversation?
He never once asks anything about me… Just tells me all about him.
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:19 pmI watched this interview and not only is Bush completely arrogant, deluded, and disgraceful, Stephanopolous is Mr. Softball. The strongest challenge he gave Bush was when Bush said he does a lot of reading (but not about himself or his administration) and was currently reading “A History of the English Speaking People” since 1900. So Stephie asked him “what do you take away from it?”
Bush’s face flashed a quick look of confusion, then anger, before saying some stupid thing like “history is long” and letting Stephie finish his thought by saying “you have to take the long view,” to which Bush replied “yeah.” That was as tough as Stephie got.
No questions about signing statements. No pressure on Bush about enemy combatants or Quantanamo. No mention of the $300 Billion+ deficit. No mention that more Americans have died in Iraq than died on 9/11. No mention of the Iraqi death toll, the drop in electricity to before pre-Saddam levels,he polls that show Iraqis want America out, the death squads inside the government itself., or anything of substance about the realities of today’s Iraq. Nada.
Worst of all, Stephie completely let slide Bush’s assertion that Iraq can and will one day be a “functioning Democracy and an ally in the War on Terror, in the heart of the Middle East.” Even James Baker - Daddy’s Man sent to help Georgie extract himself from his self-created pile of shit - has said this isn’t going to happen, yet Stephie let it pass without so much as a peep.
Stephie did ask if there was any scenario where Bush could see American troops leaving Iraq while he was still President, and Bush said “no.” Talk about a silver platter setup for Stephie to come back with a simple response, like “in 2002 before the invasion, your administration said it would be a cakewalk. Now you’re saying American troops will be in Iraq until at least 2008. Does this mean your pre-invasion judgements about Iraq were wrong?”
For an interviewer, it doesn’t get any easier that this…….. but Stephie never followed up. This interview was the mainstream media equivalent of a very feeble pillow fight.
No wonder the American people are so badly misinformed. The fragile bubble around Bush never gets punctured, even when he himself hands the media the needle.
Stephanopolous truly is Mr. Softball……. A terrible interview!
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:21 pm#129 Briseadh,
That’s the general area I find myself scoring whenever I do it. No wonder I find myself agreeing with your posts so often. I’m just a lot sillier than you, but at least one of us has to remain at least somewhat serious. :)
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:25 pmNote the brief smile after he says that he’s never been “stay the course”. Looks like he is happy with himeself for this particular lie.
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:27 pmDoes anyone know the actual interview ground rules? Do all questions have to be submitted ahead of time? If so, is the interviewer allowed to deviate in any way from the pre-approved questions? What would happen if an interviewer did ask a question not on the list? Would the president walk out of the interview? That I would pay to see.
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:27 pmSure George.
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:32 pm
Mr. Schneider, (134) Well, they say great minds think alike!
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:40 pmMaybe it has to do with the fact that I’m a Scorpio and the moon entered Scorpio this morning? ;-)
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
That must be what it is. :-)
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:41 pmIf “W” wanted to tell the truth, he would have said “We will FLUNK the course.”
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:49 pmWhat a lying sack of shit!
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:51 pmWhat “W” should have said was “We will flunkthe course.” Then, at least he would have been telling the truth.
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:53 pm[…] GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! […]
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:53 pmMr. Schneider, (134) Well, they say great minds think alike!
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
And so do ours! :)
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:56 pmFurther proof that Bush is a pathological liar.
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:57 pmF*cking retarded NAZI George thinks if he says it differently it means whatever he wants , just like his signing statements on the 800 bills he passed into law.
October 22nd, 2006 at 1:59 pmNAZI war criminal George + crew should be publicly executed ASAP,but then america is not a logical rational nation,but a war crimes rogue terrorist nation.
It warms my heart to see so many of us in agreement on this. I can only cross my fingers and hope that WE stay the course and on Election Day throw the bums out.
October 22nd, 2006 at 2:12 pm[…] Source […]
October 22nd, 2006 at 2:17 pmBush isn’t WRONG.
Bush is LYING.
October 22nd, 2006 at 2:40 pmguys…use this and GET AN AD OUT.
NOW
And put it on 24/7
don’t you remember ‘I voted for it before I voted against it?’
This stuff writes it self….
October 22nd, 2006 at 2:40 pmi am certain that bush has ghonnarea, eventually you become a raving lunatic, we are seeing this now.
October 22nd, 2006 at 2:49 pmDefinately one of the poorest excuses for a human being I have ever laid eyes on.
October 22nd, 2006 at 2:55 pm[…] ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Sort of leave you scratching your head, doesn’t it? […]
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:01 pm[…] President Bush denies ever having advocated that we “stay the course” in Iraq. Two points to anybody who can twist logic sufficiently to claim that this is not a bald-faced lie. […]
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:02 pmBush: “We’ve never been ‘Stay the course’”…
Translation: “I think Americans are too dumb to remember what I said six weeks ago.”…
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October 22nd, 2006 at 3:05 pmBut no one is doing anything. Everyone knows that Bush is confused and as a child, Rumsfeld and Rice are always defensive.
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:12 pmBut the real question is, what are well all going to do. After end of term for Bush people will be speaking out, but now … he is still in power.
i can’t wait until he is impeached, and hopefully imprisoned in a secret torture facility.
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:14 pmhey chimpy the idiot… ever hear of youtube? ever watch the daily show… ever hear of video editing… remember when your father said, “READ MY LIPS, NO NEW TAXES”… could “We’ve never been stay the course” be your BIG BIG BIG defining idiot moment… are you getting fit for a propeller hat? you’re so gonna get nailed this week… over and over…
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:18 pm[…] I’ve been reading a book of short stories by Neil Gaiman titled Smoke and Mirrors and it contains a story called “The Goldfish Pool and Other Stories”. It’s about a trip to Los Angeles where the behavior of the inhabitants is nicely summed up by an observation about goldfish: They are so damn stupid that they swim around the pool thinking “I’ve never been here before” and so even things they have done a thousand times seem new to them. The thing is, the story isn’t just about Los Angeles and the cult around the movie industry; it applies to everyone in this country. If it didn’t, George W. Bush wouldn’t think for a moment that he could pull off yet another Big Lie. It’s really unbelievable that he is trying this again… If you have the memory of a goldfish and have forgotten that the same tactic was used on the topics of WMDs and the supposed Saddam/Al-Qaeda link. Follow the link below, and try to remember what you see and read on Election Day. Think Progress » Bush: ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’ Bush: ‘We’ve Never Been Stay The Course’ […]
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:24 pmWhen you think your god, you can go back in time and change what you said. Duh?
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:29 pmIs Bush actually a member of the human race? Or is he the missing link? He really does look something like a chimpanzee. He seems to think like a chimpanzee. No, wait, that is a base insult to all chimpanzees everywhere.
I think even chimpanzees have better thinking mechanisms than our current resident of the United States. The only difference is, this chimpanzee learned to talk.
He says “stay the course stay the course”, and then tells Stephanopoulos he never said any such thing.
Like he never did coke. Like he served honorably in the National Guard. Like his daddy never got him out of all the scrapes he ever go into. Like he never blew up frogs with firecrackers. Like he won two presidential elections without stealing both of them. Like he saved New Orleans. Like he is not a hypocrital lying sack of crap. Like he is a practiciing Christian. Like he is not a sociopath. Like he is not a war criminal.
Like he never ever said “stay the course”. That must have been his evil twin.
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:32 pmI’m sure Stephanopoulos confronted him right away on the contradiction. Our fearless news media would do no less.
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:35 pmThis “president” (and I use that term very, very lightly (and I am a disgusted, registered Republican), is an “effing” MORON. How could this country be so stupid as to let him stay a second term. Wasn’t the fiasco of the first four years enough? Now we still have two more years of this idiot, pushing more and more people — the US service members, the Coalition Forces, and the Iraqi people — to their deaths, while he sits at home, comfortably, in the White House, being puppeteered by his incompetent cabinet. If any of them actual ever put on a uniform and walked into batt