Fox News Warns Viewers Of Upcoming Socialist Revolution
By on Oct 23rd, 2006 at 4:33 pm
Fox News Warns Viewers Of Upcoming Socialist Revolution
Today on Fox News, Neil Cavuto had a segment asking whether Democrats will “crush the economy” if they win November’s elections. One of the guests, Jonathan Hoenig, said they would, because Democrats’ “overriding philosophy is socialism.”
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How about when the Fox news studios are stormed and hijacked right on live TV?
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:37 pmWill Fox actually cover news instead of asking retarded questions?
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:38 pm“Will Fox News make it to the next decade?”
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:38 pmYep, just like they did during the 8 years Clinton was in charge.
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:38 pmWow, these – - – -ers mean business. They are truely Nazis. Time to oust them. It’s either that or live in a world where no one cares about anyone, it’s dog eat dog, and there is no more beauty or truth. Take your pick
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:38 pmWill Republicans lie their asses off to try to keep power?
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:39 pmOur next guest will analyze the lying liars and the lies they are lying about.
Right. If there’s anything Dems want, it’s state ownership of everything. Sure.
Come on Fox, get a clue!
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:39 pmSome people might say Fox news is the station preferred by pedophiles and racist fear mongering frat boys.
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:40 pmThe French appeasers will raise taxes.
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:41 pmWhat can the Dems crush? The largest deficeit ever? The largest trade gap with China ever? the destruction of the middle class? Oh…..they mean we’ll repeal the tax give aways to the rich. Now the question makes sense. Yes I hope the Dems will crush those tax breaks.
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:41 pmTrust Fox to divorce from reality and then try to commit a double suicide, taking reality with it.
Who has mortgaged America, putting us all into dept? The Republicans.
Who has kept the stock market at 1.5% growth? The Republicans.
The Republicans have thrown out fiscal responsibility for kleptomania, America. It is time to throw them out.
How did the economy do when the democrats were in power? Better than ever.
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:45 pmWill TP continue to censor my next post?
What gives?
It was on topic, no links, and asked a valid question.
Why the censorship TP?
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:45 pmThat’s a red under my bed? Whoah I thought it was a dust bunny. Say, if you stare at it long enough though, it does look like the face of Che Guevara….
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:45 pmThe DOW:
Clinton: begin 3200 -> 10900 end
Bush: begin 10900 -> 12100 now
Clinton – up 226 % – Bush up 14 % (and not adjusted for inflation)
Yep – those Republicans are good running the economy!
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:45 pmFaux News should be retitled ‘GOP NEWS’ because they are the official front for the GOP propaganda machine. It’s great that most lucid, intelligent, educated americans won’t give their show the time of day. It’s a comedy show, isn’t it?
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:46 pmJonathan Hoenig is a complete idiot. He is the guy who keeps saying (on Fox, naturally) that the stock market will go up if we attack Iran.
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:46 pmJonathan Hoenig is a capitalist pig. That’s not an insult, that’s what he calls his consulting firm (Capitalistpig, LLC). What I don’t like about him, and why I think it’s bad for him to be on TV, is that he believes that making money is the ONLY important thing. It doesn’t matter what you’re trying to accomplish (be it save lives, clean the air and water, or make the world a safer place for the next generations), he believes that if you can’t make money doing it, it’s not worth doing. I don’t enjoy wishing harm on people, so I’ll just wish for him to suffer huge, crippling financial losses, and in such a way that he has no chance to make it all back. To me, that would be fitting.
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:47 pmTranslation: Will the dems kill our corruption gravy-train?
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:48 pmthe stock market does better under democrats than under republicans
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:48 pmHow do you crush massive debt and record trade deficits?
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:48 pmWho’s the chimpanzee “ooking” on the screencap?
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:49 pmAttention, all Fox viewers, hunker down in your bomb shelters, and don’t come out until we tell you to.
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:51 pmThat monkeyboy always shows up on Fox spewing nonsense like that. He reminds me of that SNL character, Mr. Peepers. Hah!
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:52 pmEconAtheist,
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:52 pmToo funny. Totally reminded me of that Saturday Night Live guy who did the chimpman skit all the time. “Ooking”. Love it.
Thank the lord I’m not the only one that can view the turmoil if liberals take over. This is one of my issues I discussed in a previous post. Libs take over=Economy down the drain.
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:52 pmFinally, the conservative media has struck the “progs” Achilles heel. EVERY post I submit that mentions this theme has been deleted here on Think Progress – now others understand.
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:54 pmMcCarthyism is alive and kicking.
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:55 pmThose Democrats….created a business climate that resulted in unprecedented economic growth and a $1 trillion national surplus…damn commies.
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:56 pmWhat economy is Faux News referring to? The fake, illegal immigrant economy that they’ve facilitated and enabled (at the risk of not securing our safety through our borders) or the “real economy”; that is, what it would be if the illegals were put out of work?? NYC alone would shut down for the day if they did that!
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:57 pmJason, I only wish they could delete you. You have been messing with this blog for as long as I’ve been around, and if Raw Story has HAD ENOUGH, well, it’s about time.
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:59 pmDaryll, all you are is an amplifier. Do you have any of your own thoughts about the economy?
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:00 pmOops. Think Progress probably is pretty surprised that the name of the blog has changed. :)
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:01 pmYes, Daryll, you too can offer worship and animal sacrifices to Mr Hoenig. Praise and worship to his Hoenigship!
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:02 pmThere is no rational, logical basis for the idiotic claim that a Democratic win in November means doom and gloom for everyone, including investors. This is just pure bullshit, and there is no eveidence whatsoever that it is true.
Now, maybe those who are so stinking rich living off unearned income (such as dividends and trust funds) that they don’t have to work for a living might see their income drop a bit due to higher taxes, but since they will be able to survive just fine on what they have left over, and since they will make even more when the economy does better for everyone, I will shed no tears for them.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:04 pmIs it me, or does that guy look like the ‘bat boy’ that you see on the covers of tabloids like Weekly World News, etc.?
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:04 pmConsider the source: Jonathan Hoenig is this big-shot Chicago investor type (weirdo) who runs the (get this) Capitalistpig Hedge Fund. Read more, if you want:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Hoenig
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:04 pmOf course, because the economy has never been good under Democratic congress.
See in the 80’s, there was really a Republican Congress and Senate…no, wait, err, ahh…..well……
Asshats.
-GSD
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:05 pmReally….I concur totally that “those democrats managed to present this administration with a three trillion dollar surplus, didn’t they?” How dare they be so fiscally responsible when the GOP has been fiscally irresponsible in taking that deficit and now amassing a 9 trillion+ deficit? How dare they??
What they really mean is that the tax breaks to the most wealthy may be tampered with….
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:05 pm“Thank the lord I’m not the only one that can view the turmoil if liberals take over. This is one of my issues I discussed in a previous post. Libs take over=Economy down the drain.”
That’s right Daryll, don’t look at the realities of the past 12 years. By the way, God called, there is recall on born again brains. Turns out that some dip switches were flipped when Fox got a news station.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:07 pmCome on Darryl, obviously you know how to crush an economy based on a weak dollar, massive debt and record trade deficits.
Just tell me how it’s done.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:10 pmYikes – Are you sure those weren’t dip shit switches?
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:10 pmThose switch your brains from regular to shit mode.
Thank the lord I’m not the only one that can view the turmoil if liberals take over.
Comment by Daryll — October 23, 2006 @ 4:52 pm
Well, Daryll, everyone here knows you are a complete idiot. Like that remark about how Bush is an honest man. Pure psychosis.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:11 pmThats funny… and here I was thinking the dems overriding philosophy was pandering to the center-right
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:15 pmYou stinking libs anger me, all you want to do is over-tax the rich. You guys are nuts, the rich spend more, which will keep our economy stable. I don’t trust your party anyway. Remember Clinton and NAFTA? He outsourced jobs, and you libs never said one Gogolee Moglee thing.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:18 pmThe latest poll shows that nearly 80% of Americans believe we are not winning any war in Iraq. Looks like the will of the majority will trump the lies of the minority.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:21 pmRUCerious, you could call them dip shit switches as they reverse the flow in the body resulting in shit getting stuck in your head. There is no easy way to flick the switch back unfortunately. Once the shit hits the brain it renders the person useless to society. Deprogramming requires facts and facts just run right through shit. Tough situation for Daryll et al.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:21 pmand you libs never said one Gogolee Moglee thing.
Comment by Daryll
Such language, do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:24 pmClinton and NAFTA? Darryll, Dude, someone lied to you.
Clinton inherited NAFTA, so, tell me who’s been lying to you?
Someone made you uninformed, do us a favor, and tell us who it was.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:24 pmDaryll, the rich have been making out like bandits while everyone else’s standard of living has been sinking. They are hardly overtaxed. Virtually all economic growth of the past 25 years in the U.S. has gone to the top 5%. They are using you. Get a clue.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:25 pmPlease Daryll, don’t get angry! Your Jeebus might strike us down with lightning and brimstone if you do!
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:25 pmLet’s make sure that all your rich friends take their camel shrinking lessons, cause remember, it’s easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for, um.. what was it now???
Brother Daryll: “Libs take over=Economy down the drain.”
Quick question for our bible-thumpin joker: which party controlled the executive branch during the longest peacetime expansion of our economy in history?
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:27 pm45 – calm down, “Christian” and remember to turn the other cheek.
NAFTA was the worst thing Clinton did for the American worker, as well as for immigrant labor. So why did it pass? Because Big Business favors de-regulation. (With NAFTA the borders were deregulated for business but not for the worker.) Yet history shows that unregulated Captialism ultimately fails.
And Socialism is, simply put, regulated Capitalism, with government ownership and control over a select few industries; those which are social in nature, such as health care, for example.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:28 pmIt’s a wonder that the United States survived for so long with the Dems in control of Congress and/or the White House. Apparently for Repugs, Year Zero started in 2000. What a bunch of freaking idiots.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:28 pmDaryll,
It’s easier to pass a thermous through a eurethra, than to read your posts.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:29 pmThis just goes to show how stupid the people are who watch Faux. I know some with advanced degrees who slop up this crap. Sad! nuf said.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:31 pmWait, I thought the economy wasn’t attributable to the party in power? No one would give Clinton/Gore credit in 2000. So carry on capitalism, you have nothing to fear.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:32 pmIf investors really believed this — that Dems will crush the economy — and with the polls favoring Dems in the election, then why aren’t they selling their stocks? Instead, investors are BUYING and the stock market is at record highs. Apparently a Democratic controlled congress doesn’t worry investors and one could make the argument that they actually favor it!
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:33 pmOf course, how could we go one post without one of these jackass trolls saying it’s Clinton’s fault.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:34 pmGod wants Republicans to be rich. It’s right in the Bible: Chapter 11, verse 21, paragraph 2. “All ye Republicans who are rich will be welcomed into heaven by the almighty himself. No Democrats will be allowed under any circumstances. Vote Republican.”
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:35 pm2 rwingnuts lying about Clinton and NAFTA, wow, the republicans must have really screwed something up.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:35 pmDaryll,
Why shouldn’t we over-tax people who don’t work for a living because they live off the dividends from their investments or from family trusts? Because they might have to go out and find a friggin’ job??? Spare me the nonsense about how much they spend. If they spent all their money, they wouldn’t be millionaires! They’re millionaires because they DON’T spend their money. They keep it for their greedy little selves and their greedy little children. Well, there are starving fellow Americans who could use some of that money. I’m sure it’s what Jesus would suggest we do. Don’t you? (Or are you going to try to convince us that Jesus was a supply-sider?)
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:36 pmwhy anyone pays attention to trolls like daryll i don’t know. he isn’t here for discussion, discourse or anything other than to poll parrot the party line, hurl invectives and insults at “lubruls” and argue argue argue. While there understandably isn’t anything else going on in his trailer park, Im sure you folks all do have better things to do than play whackatroll.
He’s probably a paid detractor, with income supplemented by food stamps and free lunches provided courtesy of liberal aka humanitarian people like us.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:36 pmAnAmerican, maybe there was a typo on the talking points memo?
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:37 pmAnna Thomas, the opera satirist who recently passed away, once said that to be a successful opera singer, you’re better off having resonance where your brains should be.
To get booked on Fox, you’re better off having steaming horseshit where your brains should be.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:38 pmyou libs never said one Gogolee Moglee thing.
Comment by Daryll
Forgiveness, my Christian brother, as speaking in tongues is not one of the gifts which Our Father has bestowed upon me, just as wisdom is not one he has granted to you.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:38 pmBluedog49, that was all because of the emergence of the internet. Dems had nothing to do with the Information Technology portion.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:38 pmOoh sorry, it’s Anna Russell. Sorry Anna.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:38 pmAnAmerican, you’re in denial.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:40 pm48 – NAFTA was implemented after Clinton became President. He could have derailed the treaty, but he didn’t.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:41 pmSo, which portion of the index are the Republicans responsible for? Energy? Transportation?
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:42 pmFrom: “Democratic House No Pox on Stocks”
By Liz Rappaport
“At present, a Democratic win in the House of Representatives is largely priced into the stock market, which has rallied to new highs through the campaign process thus far. Futures markets put the likelihood of a Democratic takeover, or at least 15 net wins in the House, at 63.1%, according to InTrade.”
So, Darryl – many of your Conservative GOP brothers and sisters who actually pull the trigger to buy stocks for the big mutual funds realize that the Dems will probably control the House of Representaitves and don’t seem to be nearly as concerned about it as you are …
Why is that Darryl?
Because if they were to embrace and act upon the delusional notions that you embrace everyday – they would get f#cking fired.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:42 pm#64 Yah, I guess it doesn’t matter how they’ve become misinformed, just that they are misinformed.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:43 pmOr are you going to try to convince us that Jesus was a supply-sider?
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider — October 23, 2006 @ 5:36 pm
In the new, post 9/11, neo-con annotated version of the Bible, Jesus is also in favor of oil wars, invasion of nations that pose no threat, torture of prisoners, wanton prostitution of religion for political gains, and exempting the responsible from any accountability.
Really, Wayne, try to keep up.
/sarcasm off
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:44 pm#69 Denial?
I don’t think you not coming up with a strategy for wrecking an economy based on massive debt, record deficits and a weak dollar has anything to do with me being in denial, it only has to do with you being FOS.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:46 pm#71, you really need a NAFTA timeline.
Go find one. Or, I’ll find one for you.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:47 pmmarblex, I don’t have to prove myself to you or anybody else. I’m a systems engineer working for an IT consulting firm, and I have high credentials as well as merit. I believe you republicans want to convert our country into a communist state. You create/complete business deals using your gut feeling instead of using logic and intuition. That’s what agitates me. Leave the rich alone. They do spend a rather substantial amount each year, but they also make smart investments to maintain their self worth.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:53 pmDon’t know whats worse, the people who blindly follow or bash fox news. Do any of you honestly think the Democrats will solve any of this “corporatism” you talk about? Both parties are corrupt.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:54 pmWhen did Clinton’s unprecendented economic growth coupled with a trillion dollar surplus come to mean wrecking an economy? More republican spin, I see.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:54 pmOh noes! We are moving towards La Commune de Washington. This is going to be bloody when the Marines have to move in to crush the Red Rebellion!
Anyway Congress will have its hands full to keep the economy up and running satisfactorily. Basically, it’s go to tax more and spend less. And if it’s Democrats, you can imagine the scene.
A lot of bad things can happen soon:
Danger of China appreciating the yuan (Inflation!)
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:55 pmDanger of China NOT appreciating the yuan (Jobs moving away!)
Housing market slows down seriously (Economic slowdown)
Oil prices go up (Inflation)
Other countries stop financing the US current-account deficit (Inflation!)
Other countries do NOT stop financing the US current-account deficit (Corporations are being taken over by them furreigners! Where do you think those exported Dollars will go…)
Daryll,
Shows that he clearly does not work in the technology industry. Every engineer I have met is anti-Bush. All of them. You know why? Because they are logical people. Most of them are not religious. They don’t base stuff on faith. The are based in reality and only believe what they can touch, see, feel, smell.
The liberals are responsible for technology. If it wasn’t for liberals, the conservatives would have you study your Bible by candle light like the Amish.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:56 pmDarryl: I don’t trust Republicans either. They protect corporations that set up overseas tax shelters and pay little or no money back to the United States, the country in which the corporation was founded and where its operational headquarters resides. There are many, many other reasons not to trust the Republicans — most have been demonstrated in the past five years, including corruption, bribery, pedophilia, incompetence, big government, and record deficits.
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:58 pm#74 Gregor,
You’re right. I forgot to update my bible. I only have this one that I stole from some place (I forget where, but I think a hotel was involved, and the statute of limitations has run out, so that doesn’t matter any more.)
I suppose I can pick up a new one at the White House Gift Shop. :)
October 23rd, 2006 at 5:59 pmThe simple fact is, when you look at the economy (as one of many examples), the Clinton administration was far more successful than the Bush administration. Democrats know how to get things done.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:00 pmMygod: “Do any of you honestly think the Democrats will solve any of this “corporatism†you talk about? Both parties are corrupt.”
I hear you, but right now the most important thing is oversight and accountability. Besides, Dems are marginally more likely to regulate big corporations and marginally more likely to take legislative steps which diminish the influence of corporations. Pelosi’s “first 100 hours”, for example, includes legislation to break the ties between legislators and corporate lobbyists with respect to writing laws.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:01 pmSpudgeBoy, well I’m the first of the few that do exist. It is my job to test and process government systems/programs.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:03 pm#81
Not to say that all tech people are anti-Republican which isnt true… most tech people like a strong capitalist society… but I have not met a single pro-Bush tech person ever myself and I am a software engineer… and that isnt just because of all the bad news lately… I have not met a single software engineer or tech person that was pro Bush even from 2000 … there must be some out there some where though…
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:03 pm#67
Darryl
You should stick to what you know … which unfortunately isn’t very much.
The groundwork for the boom in the economy post 1992 was the result of the work between Clinton and Greenspan and Rubin while Clinton was still President-elect.
Unlike the current administration – Clinton, a Democrat, was willing to take sound advice from a member of another party – Greenspan, a Republican.
Circa 1998 …
“This is the best economy I’ve ever seen in 50 years of studying it every day,” Greenspan told Clinton.”
There had been a boom in productive capital. Money that businesses were spending was yielding an extraordinary return because of increased worker productivity. The computer and high technology investments were paying off. And those payoffs had to be real, because the higher profits and economic growth had continued for several years now.
I guess Mr. Alan Greenspan – a Republican – is another one of those so-called “damn liberals” that anger you – eh?
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:04 pmWhen you look at the history of the American economy it shows that Democrats have always been better than Republicans at running it…unless you believe that strong economies are a bad thing.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:05 pm77 Daryll said:
“I believe you republicans want to convert our country into a communist state. ”
I don’t trust them either, but I think they are more interested in a theocratic fascist state.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:08 pmsystems engineer working for an IT consulting firm, and I have high credentials as well as merit. I believe you republicans want to convert our country into a communist state.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:17 pmDaryll, please tell me which systems you are working on, so I am sure not to endanger my life or my family’s by using anything you are helping to produce!
I disagree that republicans want to convert our country into a communist state, more like a fascist state…
ggibson, I understand, in college, my computer science professor tried to give our class a lecture about the progression of information technology, but he was careful about categorizing certain political parties that he felt attempted to hinder this progression. I still believe Rebublicans have helped our economy extensively. I agree with Republican morals/values. Science says it’s impossible for Jesus to exist (Evolution Theory), but in my spiritual relationship with god, I know he’s real. Unlike you liberals, I can separate science from religion.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:18 pmDaryll, what software do you use for black box testing?
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:20 pmDo you use UML? How many and which software languages are you proficient in??
Kelso, I meant liberals, not republicans.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:20 pmWhoever (or whatever) writes the FOX “News” ticker is channeling fortune cookies from Mars.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:21 pmUnlike you liberals, I can separate science from religion.
Comment by Daryll
Actually, Daryll, that is precisely what we do. It’s the ones who can’t separate religion from reality that frighten some of us.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:22 pmScience says it’s impossible for Jesus to exist (Evolution Theory),
Comment by Daryll — October 23, 2006 @ 6:18 pm
Science says nothing about Jesus, don’t be dense.
And the theory of evolution most certainly does not say Jesus could not have lived.
Unlike you liberals, I can separate science from religion.
Obviously you cannot -you don’t even know what science, or the theory of evolution is, let alone separate it from religion.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:25 pmYes, Jesus really was born of a virgin, really did put someone’s ear back on and really did come back from the dead. And Santa Claus really does have flying reindeer, really does visit everyone’s house on Christmas Eve (Christians only), and really does keep a list of whose naughty and nice.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:25 pmSecond request…
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:26 pmDaryll, what software do you use for black box testing?
Do you use UML? How many and which software languages are you proficient in??
Science doesn’t say God can’t exist. Science simply can’t address the existence of a god as there is no OBSERVABLE PHENOMENA. Religion is faith. It can’t prove or disprove the existence of god.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:26 pmThree strikes and you’re out Daryll…
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:29 pmThird request… what software do you use for black box testing?
Do you use UML? How many and which software languages are you proficient in??
B-True
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:31 pmI wouldn’t be surprised if he came back with some lame thing about not testing aircraft components. He could always look up UML on the internets if he looks long enough at the right tube.
Daryll: “Science says it’s impossible for Jesus to exist (Evolution Theory), but in my spiritual relationship with god, I know he’s real. Unlike you liberals, I can separate science from religion.”
Where would one begin if trying to make sense out of that?
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:31 pmDaryll writes — :”I don’t have to prove myself to you or anybody else. I’m a systems engineer working for an IT consulting firm, and I have high credentials as well as merit.”
Toot your own horn, what credentials?
I happen to be working for a major computer manufacturer, have been a unix system administrator and certified in every current OS, as well as hardware. I can use VI in my sleep, which I learned to do in my sleep fixing unix servers at 2 am.
Certs are a dime a dozen, its what you can do that matters in the IT world, I have fired people with certs that couldnt find their way on the prompt.
” I believe you republicans want to convert our country into a communist state. You create/complete business deals using your gut feeling instead of using logic and intuition. That’s what agitates me. ”
No, Republicans want to turn this into a fascist state, which they are well on the way of accomplishing that goal
The Democrats want to bring out democracy back to “We the People”
You really are a piece of work Daryll. You obviously are an idiot when talking poilitics and history.
Since you are an IT engineer here is a question, in your own words, how would you first open file on a unix server, then edit the file, then save it, using the VI editor?
List all keystrokes and commands, you have 5 minutes.
Lets see how good a systems engineer you really are.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:32 pmB-True
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:32 pmYa suppose the government he works for is his city pound?
The Hebrew bible says there are two sources of light in the heavens, the sun and the moon. Daryll, as a technical person, I’m sure you have some thoughts on this.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:35 pmWayne, I’m guessing you just shut bible-boy down for the day.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:37 pm#109 – thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God, Wayne…or Darryl, his appointed avatar on TP today.
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:38 pmWhere would one begin if trying to make sense out of that?
Comment by Bluedog49 — October 23, 2006 @ 6:31 pm
Your local asylum is a good place to start, preferably after talking with a trained mental health professional….
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:41 pmWORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR CHAINS. THE PROLETARIAT SHALL OVERTHROW THE BOUGASIE
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:50 pmThe moon is a source of light? God thought that the moon was a star?
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:51 pmggibson, I understand, in college, my computer science professor tried to give our class a lecture about the progression of information technology, but he was careful about categorizing certain political parties that he felt attempted to hinder this progression. I still believe Rebublicans have helped our economy extensively. I agree with Republican morals/values. Science says it’s impossible for Jesus to exist (Evolution Theory), but in my spiritual relationship with god, I know he’s real. Unlike you liberals, I can separate science from religion.
I grew extremely right wing .. I saw pat robertson on TV all the time here in Indiana. I never even considered while growing up that I would some day vote democrat. As I grew up and realized that the preachers were fakes that were raking in the cash and having sex with women they were not married to and had often through out history acted as the source of mass murder. I decided that Jesus was real and all these people were anti-christs… that means the modern christian religion is a farse. Republican “morals” is a farse.
Science (evolution) explains how Jesus and all the rest of us came into being. It was the Roman Emporer Constatine and his subserviant “bishops” that dreamed up all the mythology around Jesus. Jesus needs no immortal soul to be the great that he is. Just as Ghandi does not and neither does Buddha. Your twisted view of Jesus is a farse.
If you have personally read the parts of the bible about Jesus then you surely know that Jesus has no place in a decision that includes war. Jesus had all the opportunity he could have wanted to join in with the anti-Roman rebels and fight to the death. That simply was not his message. And for you to try to make it otherwise is no different than the people that used to burn women to the stake in the name of “Jesus”.
Morality can be logically deduced just as easily as a computer program can. It does not take mysticism nor self-righteousness. The ONLY point you on the right have over the left is the very point that is also anti-Jesus… and that is WAR is sometimes neccessary. Jesus NEVER said he thought that was true… I simply would disagree with him on that point, but agree with him on all others. So you cannot have it both ways.. either you believe in Jesus 100% and so must renounce all money and become a bleeding heart tree hugger like Jesus…. OR you say the way of Jesus is the way we should TRY to live our lives and when outsiders attempt violence against us despite our Jesus ways THEN we defend ourselves with WAR… and not until then.
That is why I can honestly agree with WWII and see that the Bush Iraq war is mass murder. It is a simple equation really. We were NOT attacked by Iraq. So killing them is MURDER.
Simple enough isnt it?
October 23rd, 2006 at 6:52 pm“God thought that the moon was a star?”
Well, either that or the guy who claimed he was writing god’s words was mistaken.
October 23rd, 2006 at 7:11 pmWayne, I’m guessing you just shut bible-boy down for the day.
Comment by Bluedog49
So it seems.
And it was such a simple question I asked, for a proclaimed systems engineer. **sigh
=)
October 23rd, 2006 at 7:21 pmAs compared to the fascist regime we are living under now?
October 23rd, 2006 at 7:22 pmSmear and Fear..the last defense of the morally corrupt.
October 23rd, 2006 at 7:22 pmIt will be crushed into a 500 billion dollar surplus.
October 23rd, 2006 at 7:48 pmWow Daryll sure did run away in a hurry when he was asked a simple technical question by Wayne.
Here’s another one for him. Tell us what the seven layers of the OSI Model are.
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:12 pm> WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR
> CHAINS. THE PROLETARIAT SHALL OVERTHROW THE BOUGASIE
That’s the ‘Bourgeoisie’ uncle ho, the ‘Bourgeoisie’….
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:13 pm#118 – “As I grew up and realized that the preachers were fakes that were raking in the cash and having sex with women they were not married to and had often through out history acted as the source of mass murder. I decided that Jesus was real and all these people were anti-christs… that means the modern christian religion is a farse.”
Comment by ggibson
Dear Gerald – Your anecdotal evidence explains the way you feel about sinful preachers – and that’s about all. It is in no way sound logic. Hmmmm…..I always thought Hoosiers were smarter than that….(see how my anecdotal assumption does NOT work in your case?)
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:16 pm> modern christian religion is a farse
Good gracious! You don’t say! Ever seen how the bible was put together? A guy comes from the desert, awes everyone. People write stuff up, people make stuff up, people make allegories up. A lot chapters are thrown out or lost, others are added after the fact, some heretics are chased down for writing their own interpretations, the translation is foobared a few times, some dogma comes from the papal seat… enjoy. Hotter than the Iliad!
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:31 pmOh boy if it isn’t our favorite punching bag mighty aphrodite. I figured you had signed up to fight for your noble cause. Too bad, they need your help.
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:32 pm#125 Sorry, I didn’t have my dictionary handy.
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:33 pm131
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:35 pmWell, it was there when I responded.
El+Tonno,
You forgot Emperor Constatine converting to Christianity in the process taking over the religion and bending it to his liking by holding the Council of Nicia. Don’t forget Christians placing their holidays on top of the pagan holidays to make convertion to Christianity easier. And who could forget the Crusades to kill thousands of Muslims in order to convert the rest. There is also the good old fashion inquisition where thousnads of Jews were killed to convert the rest.
Christianity, it’s just what Jesus Christ ordered………Not!
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:40 pmWhat happened to PLCs post?
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:40 pmComment by Daryll — October 23, 2006 @ 6:18 pm
sigh…another false Christian.
PLC, again, you have my heartfelt respect, for you do live your faith.
This seems like an appropriate time to share this link:
http://www.care2.com/news/member/362617688/194989
Simply put, faith is faith. The most logical and pragmatic among us are those who are Athiests. The rest of us, myself included, suspend some portion of logic for our spirituality. Since there is no objective method of proving spirituality, or faith, no one of us can ultimately claim possession of The Truth. Each of us lives within a belief system we are comfortable with.
I also have a tremendous respect for Unbelievable, and for Mr. Schneider, as they do not attempt to foster their beliefs on anyone else, and are respectful of mine. Such is the way it should be. It is more than tolerance, it is acceptance of our differences and mutual respect for our fellow human beings, no matter which path they follow.
My harshest criticism is for those who profess their faith, yet do not live it. For they profess a false faith. And, in most belief systems, “God is gonna get you for that.”
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:42 pmIt’s the Cavuto !IS YOUR MOTHER A WHORE? WILL DEMS CRUSH THE ECONOMY IF THEY CONTROL CONGRESS?
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:43 pmI suspect that there is one economic number that the Dems would crush, and that would be this one: $8,554,830,585.378.09 (as of 24 Oct 2006 at 12:51 GMT)
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:50 pm132 Spudgeboy
Something goofy is happening. MA posts, I respond, her post disappears, my post disappears. Oh, well, a wash I guess.
Off to other endeavors.
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:53 pmPLC,
I still see MA’s post, yours is the one that is missing. Probably because you used the S word and I don’t mean poopy.
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:57 pmWow Daryll sure did run away in a hurry when he was asked a simple technical question by Wayne.
Here’s another one for him. Tell us what the seven layers of the OSI Model are.
Comment by SpudgeBoy
well daryll isn’t gonna answer anytime soon, so i’ll take a shot
1. physical
2. data link
3. network
4. transport
5. session
6. presentation
7. application
Do I win tickets to the Chimpeachment? =)
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:00 pmCavuto needs a recto-cranial surgery.
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:02 pmIf you folks know anyone who is loving this economy, let us know, because everyone I talk to is hurting – the economy is bad!
This Neil – What an air-head! How did these tards come to be!? This guy obvously never looked up McCartyism in the encyclopedia! Was this guy – an many Republicans – brainwashed by thier old fathers, so they have the extra-paranoid mindset of someone living in the 1950’s.
These people are uneducated trolls. Worse even! – they believe this ****!
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:45 pmAh good ole Fox New, that defender of American values and freedom has put it’s big foot in it’s big mouth again. They (Fox employees) clearly love America, but hate Americans who disagree with them. If that’s not patritism, I don’t know what is. If you disagree with the other party just trash them, makes all sorts of false claims about them, forget that under President Clinton this Country had real economic growth and not just a stock market that favors the rich. So at Fox it’s by the rich, for the rich and all about the rich.
For all others, if you play by the rules, get up and go to work everyday, if you aren’t rich, then to hell with you. I’m sick and tired of a bunch of over paid progandists telling stupid people in Red states a a bunch of bull that doesn’t add up so they just make it up as they go along. Fat boy Neil needs to worry more about his weight than trying to scare some dumb moron who’s already sleeping under his bed because he believes the terrorists are coming over here to get him if we don’t fight them over there.
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:47 pmGood job Wayne!
You and a friend will be spending an all expenses paid trip to local voting place in which you will get to partake in what the Democrats refer to as Democracy. Your opponents will of course do everything they can to make sure democracy doesn’t happen on November the 7th. Good luck.
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:55 pmThat man in the photo really does look like some type of ape.
October 23rd, 2006 at 10:43 pmThe OSI model is really not applicable to the real world, it is for passing certification exams. The TCP/IP model is more applicable.
October 23rd, 2006 at 10:47 pmFinally home libs, I’m currently handling black/grey box testing for a government (IC) website. I can read XML, SQL, WAP, WML and UML, C/C+++, I’m very familiar with the Sun Solaris 9/Sun Java programs. I’m attending the Unified Modeling Language course Feb 07 in California (hosted by DIA/IATAC). I rarely use it since I’m considered a user instead of a developer/coder. I graduated from Oral Roberts with a B.S. in Computer Science and also have my MCSE certification. RUCerious, you wanted me to inform you about the systems/websites I’m testing. I’m testing a website on a SBU system that you’ll never have access to. Want to know more, I’m African American and I just became 24 yrs old. My father is a retired partner of a defense consulting firm in Indiana, and my mother is a regional banker for Wells Fargo. Need more? About the evolution theory, Darwin believes that we emerged from baboons, this defies Genesis Chapter 1. Jesus created Adam and Eve, that’s how we emerged as humans in society today. Save yourselves. GO GOLDEN EAGLES (or as I call them HEAVENLY EAGLES)!!!!!!!
October 23rd, 2006 at 10:55 pmThanks Daryll.
October 23rd, 2006 at 10:57 pmOh Jeebus another spineless bobble head doll
October 23rd, 2006 at 10:59 pmFinally home libs, I’m currently handling black/grey box testing for a government (IC) website. I can read XML, SQL, WAP, WML and UML, C/C+++, I’m very familiar with the Sun Solaris 9/Sun Java programs. I’m attending the Unified Modeling Language course Feb 07 in California (hosted by DIA/IATAC). I rarely use it since I’m considered a user instead of a developer/coder. I graduated from Oral Roberts with a B.S. in Computer Science and also have my MCSE certification
Yes I can do all that plus I am certified to work on large jets and have done so on military contracts, your point is?
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:01 pmFinally home libs, I’m currently handling black/grey box testing for a government (IC) website. I can read XML, SQL, WAP, WML and UML, C/C+++,
So? many hackers would put you to shame.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:03 pmWayne, explain each technical layer in detail (don’t use google because I’m watching). I left and went into our lab. Just like liberals to come up with an assumption that I was hiding. Jesus loves you, instill Acts 2:38 into your lives.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:03 pmand here is your ideological downfall.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:04 pmJust like liberals to come up with an assumption that I was hiding. Jesus loves you, instill Acts 2:38 into your lives.
If jesus loves me then why do you hate so much?
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:08 pm*busting out Cisco book*
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:08 pmUmm…layer one….is…..
Jesus created Adam and Eve,
WTF?
Moses was Amenhotep foolish one
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:10 pmDaryll, you present as kind, caring, and about the love.
Why would you support the intolerance, and the killing?
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:10 pmDog_named_Boo, as Adam Sandler responded, Whippdideedoooo!!! The bible puts your life to shame and conviction. Have you found Jesus? That’s probably why you don’t have piece. Jesus died for you. Repay him by giving your life to him. My money, automobile, house, etc mean nothing, my ultimate goal is to see Jesus’ face in peace. Maybe you ought to send your children to ORU to get some of that good christian teaching. You liberals will harm American Society in all facets of life.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:11 pmI love whoever created breasts.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:12 pmI am far beyond that. Have you see the face yet?
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:14 pmYou are but a lost soul to me.
The bible puts your life to shame and conviction. Have you found Jesus?
I have found and seen the fates and the one. He has no name.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:16 pmI have seen the writing on the wall, I have traveled farther than you could ever hope.
ForTruth, your lustful intentions will send you to hell. Not one blackbox test or security patch can block that torturous place.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:16 pmDarryl – still judging? How un-Christian of you.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:18 pmYour Bias stops you from progressing Daryll. lose it.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:19 pmForTruth, your lustful intentions will send you to hell. Not one blackbox test or security patch can block that torturous place.
Comment by Daryll
Do not try to be a judge daryll, that is the Job of the fates, DO NOT think that you are the Judge, DO NOT DO IT. YE SHALL NEVER OBTAIN A HIGHER LEVEL IF YOU DO.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:21 pmGenesis states that we ultimately came from the earth, which indeed we did. The Bible itself is not in conflict with science; your personal interpretation of it is.
And Jesus did not create Adam and Eve. The Father did.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:26 pmI warn you for your own good, do not traverse down the path of bias, when you do you will never find the balance of the equilibrium. The Sacred Geometry. The Labrum.
I suggest to you Daryll that you remove all bias and materialism and size. Until you do you will NOT progress, when your body shakes and the earth does not, then, and only then have you begun your path to illumination. Follow the three Daryll, for that is the key to the one and to the ‘Z’
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:27 pmDog_named_Boo, my purpose is to bring as many as I can to Christ. I witness to firm colleagues, government clients, etc. Some depict me as crazy, but someday they’ll come to christ or they’ll see eternal damnation in hell. Jesus, please help everyone in society to understand that your will is for our society to follow your biblical standards. In your name I pray, amen. You guys see nothing wrong with society, your daughters are leaving your house dressed as tools, your sons are having sex at a very young age, homosexuals want to have the right to marry, you allow abortions to be commited freely, your party is despicable. I’m done. I will keep praying for libs, and you will not win the House or Senate because of your disgusting, sinful ways.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:30 pmDrina speaks well.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:30 pmDog_named_Boo, my purpose is to bring as many as I can to Christ.
I am of the PI-Cot Hori [jesus] and I know of what you speak, you cannot force your belief upon others.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:34 pmI witness to firm colleagues, government clients, etc. Some depict me as crazy, but someday they’ll come to christ or they’ll see eternal damnation in hell.
No, No,NO, do not Judge.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:39 pmDaryll,
Dude, seriously, skip church this week and get laid.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:44 pmGod won’t mind, she’s busy.
Darryl, how does Darwin’s Theory of Natural Selection/ Evolution hold up for you?
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:45 pmI will ask for the aether to come unto you Daryll. Remember this you are nothing in the grand scheme of things, a dot in the eye of nothing, A one dimensional entity vibrating to seem as a three dimensional entity.
For Daryll, I tell you, Creation runs in reverse.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:49 pmHow can anyone graduate with a science degree from a ‘university’ named after a man who claims he saw a 900ft tall Jesus? It boggles the mind.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:54 pmForTruth, your lustful intentions will send you to hell. Not one blackbox test or security patch can block that torturous place.
Comment by Daryll
Oh crap, I’m totally screwed.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:55 pmI was not trying to get tangled up in this religion argument, sheesh, now I need to repent.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:56 pmTerrytheTurtle, I explained this in previous post. It’s time for me to watch the 700 club to learn about political/military current events. It would be a true shame for you libs to decide not to give your lives to christ. I know god is meant for our country, listen to our song: God bless America, Land that I love, Stand beside her, and guide her, Through the night from a light from above, From the mountains, To the prairies, To the oceans, white with foam, God bless America, My home sweet home. God speed.
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:56 pmJesus loves you
Actually, jesus loves crackers and wine.
October 24th, 2006 at 12:04 amdarryl you make the mistake of 1) calling me a liberal and 20 thinking I am American. I consider it a pleaseure to oppose all religious fanatics: you, them, anyone, Christian, Muslim, Jew and any other demagogue who sets up a cult to give people a reason to hate their fellows.
Trouble with zealots is that first you pity the people who don’t think like you, next you patronize them, then treat them as second-class citizens, then you make laws to exclude them. Then its prisons to hold them and gas chambers to execute them.
“blow them all away in the name of the Lord.” – Jerry Falwell
October 24th, 2006 at 12:09 amActually, I conjure up a nice Merlot, bread and anchovies there God.
October 24th, 2006 at 12:13 amAbout the evolution theory, Darwin believes that we emerged from baboons,
Comment by Daryll — October 23, 2006 @ 10:55 pm
Wrong. This is a serious distortion of Darwin’s explanation, and goes contrary to what we know about the human lineage.
this defies Genesis Chapter 1.
It only defies it if you read the Bible literally. Put it another way: Your interpretation of the Bible is incorrect, but you are too arrogant to even consider that possibility.
The literal interpretation of the Bible has been abandoned by most Christian denominations, because it contradicts our every day experience, and our current knowledge of the world.
Jesus created Adam and Eve, that’s how we emerged as humans in society today.
Wrong. Jesus dit not create Adam nor Eve.
You have some serious knowledge gaps. It doesn’t speak too well of Oral Roberts University.
October 24th, 2006 at 12:16 amThanks Gregor, I really didn’t have the interest to read what Darryl had to say on Darwin. I was simply blown away that a university named after a man who says he saw a 900ft tall Jesus could graduate anyone with a science degree.
If Darryl says that Genesis 1 is literally true, then all the fundamental laws of the Universe go out the window. Bye bye, the speed of light as byuilding block. No speed of light, no Maxwell’s Theory. No Maxwell’s Theory, no computers or electricity and then the teaching of Computer Science is a branch of theoology, and Darryl should be offering a prayer the the Flying Spaghetti Monster every time he logs on or turn on a light….
Fascinating self-delusions.
October 24th, 2006 at 12:28 amORU – it’s not the science curriculum alone that has to be fundamentally flawed, perhaps the institutional bigotry is part of it too.
October 24th, 2006 at 12:29 amOho, you are so evil. Those stuffs you studied are against GOD. Human try to imitate GOD to create machines able to thinking. I’m MCSE (from 2000), CLP and CEH. I worked as Net Engineer, Net Admin, Security Pentest and IT Man. Computer lang? Assembly, C/C++,VB, eVB, Perl, Php, Erlang, Asp, Asp.net. I can tell even you studied those, it doesn’t mean you are NOT a stupid.
October 24th, 2006 at 12:42 amHey Daryll – Thanks for your reply. Have fun at UML class. What is your favorite part of IT, writing requirements, testing or coding?
October 24th, 2006 at 12:45 amTerry,
Yes, I agree: If Genesis is literally true then the world as we know it ceases to exist.
I won’t try to rebut everything in Daryll’s rants. He’s coming from another century and it would take entire books to fully explain all the things he got wrong.
October 24th, 2006 at 12:55 amI know god is meant for our country, listen to our song: God bless America, Land that I love, Stand beside her, and guide her, Through the night from a light from above, From the mountains, To the prairies, To the oceans, white with foam, God bless America, My home sweet home.
Comment by Daryll
It’s “Through the night with a light from above”
You’re welcome, pilgrim.
Wasn’t Irving Berlin Jewish?
October 24th, 2006 at 1:27 amMaybe you ought to send your children to ORU to get some of that good christian teaching. You liberals will harm American Society in all facets of life.
Comment by Daryll
Don’t you know that Oral Roberts had a house in Beverly Hills? That he drives around in Rolls-Royces? He gets that money from sick, old, desperate people. His hospital (City of Faith) folded because they didn’t even think to install an internal oxygen system!
October 24th, 2006 at 1:36 amWill the Dems krush the ekonomy if they kontrol kongress?
Sorry, it’s just that idiotic.
October 24th, 2006 at 1:40 amMaybe you ought to send your children to ORU to get some of that good christian teaching.
ORU is for religious pikers; if it’s snake-handlin’, talkin-in-tongues, and fundamentalism thick enough to cut with a Buck knife, Rhema Bible College is really the place for you!
October 24th, 2006 at 1:50 amI just think this shows that the Republicans are in the “last throes of their insurgency”. Hahaha
http://www.getsomejosh.com
October 24th, 2006 at 2:04 amI think ‘ole “Daryll” is a bit of a hoax.
IMO – his first comment or two at the beginning of a thread might be geniune. After he gets trapped and realizes he has no escape – he starts with all the religious stuff. Saying silly things in the name of religion.
The silly religious comments make many of us – myself included – angry. Particularly after seeing the GOP use religion as a wedge issue. And hearing a president claim that his decision to invade a country came from God. And knowing that most of these GOP characters that talk the talk don’t even come close to walking the walk.
But I think ‘ole Dayrll is just rattling the cage here because he knows he can get the Progressive Dogs to “bark” a little bit.
Anyway – knock yourself out, kid.
This is probably as good as it is ever going to get for you.
Which is pretty sad – given the quality of your comments …
October 24th, 2006 at 2:31 amMeanwhile, back on topic. Anybody notice that Bush had shifted focus from the War on Terror to his economic record just prior to this Fox Report?
I give you this:
Bush shifts his message to the economy
Cites job gains since ‘03 but not U.S. economy’s now-slowing momentum
Oct. 23, 2006. 06:55 AM
And this:
Bush seeks to switch focus to economy
Financial Times
By Edward Luce in Washington
and finally, this:
Bush to trumpet strength of the economy
It’s interesting to note only the Canadian article is critical of Bush on the economy.
October 24th, 2006 at 3:27 amDaryll
You are no African American. I am an African, I hold citizenship in an African country – I am just guessing here but I think you don’t hold dual citizenship in any of our countries. At the most you are a dark skinned American.
You know what irritates me with Christians? Idiots like you who haven’t even read the book. It is what I respect about Jews, they have, Muslims, they have, but Christians? You come out and say stupid crap like that and still expect us Atheists to respect your beliefs. You don’t believe in some higher power you call God, you believe in your preacher.
The most Jesus ever created was a few lousy fish sandwiches (No butter or lemon) and a fair bit of wine. The guy who created everything, if you read the book, was supposed to be JESUS’ FATHER. Jesus wasn’t born yet! He only came about 2000 years ago, even the most literal creationists put the earth as being older then that at least.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:41 amDo you really believe republicans are doing the economy and all the people ANY good?!
October 24th, 2006 at 6:16 amDaryll troll sign, anyone? This is a direct quote:
“I believe you republicans want to convert our country into a communist state.”
Hmmm. So, Daryll-troll. I believe Mr. Spooner tied your tongue while you were posting. Please re-read your talking points manual, type slowly and carefully, and get it right next time.
October 24th, 2006 at 6:45 amIf they “crush” the economy the way the Clinton administration did, I’ll be one happy Democrat.
October 24th, 2006 at 6:56 amContact Jonny-boy at his firm, appropriately-named Capitalist Pig. Phone: 312-588-1685
October 24th, 2006 at 7:51 amI wonder what this squirmy wormy bobble head Hoenig thinks privatization is? Hey Hoenig I will give you a clue; Selling off the Social Structure of Government to support an unworkable GOP Budget. Socialist Fascism GOP Style
October 24th, 2006 at 7:51 amWow, I have now heard it all. Talk about crazy revisionist theories. And here I am thinking that Jesus father was Yistro [Jethro]
October 24th, 2006 at 7:59 amHoenig guy in the pic on FOX News looks like some dork who has not been laid sexually for 5 years > what rock do those creeps slither out from under anyways?
October 24th, 2006 at 8:40 amAnd here I thought my overriding philosophy was “Be excellent to one another.” :-)
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October 24th, 2006 at 10:15 amRemember way back when the economy was really good (in the reality based world, not in the pundit world) and the pundits would continually say that Clinton had nothing to do with it, that the president and governments had little they could do to influence the economy? Why today do they say Bush and his policies are good for the economy? And why do they say dems would be bad for the economy? Seriously one of you fox news types needs to answer the contradiction…when the economy was good under Clinton policy did not matter, now policy will matter under dems? What gives?
October 24th, 2006 at 10:33 am#148 Jesus Createdd Adam And Eve? Interesting.
By the way who did Adam and Eve’s living sons marry to propagate the human race?
October 24th, 2006 at 10:37 amYes, they’ll “crush” it, like Clinton did after all that unbridled prosperity we enjoyed under Reagan and BushI…..wtf!?
Fox knows that their viewers are that dumb, that ignorant of documented history. What a pathetic wad of poop.
October 24th, 2006 at 11:18 amClinton would have loved to grow the government the way Bush has.
October 24th, 2006 at 11:30 amFox News is the most balanced of all the network news channels. I love how all you leftist people think otherwise. The majority of America sits in the middle of the road and can relate much more to FoxNews than the Networks’ news. What are the ratings on FoxNews? Oh wait, they are through the roof. But of course, all the people who watch FoxNews must be mindless GOP Yes-Men. Whatever.
October 24th, 2006 at 11:39 amBrian
Tell you what, why don’t you go over to Wikipedia, and look up two names:
Jane Akre and Steve Wilson.
Then come back and talk about how fair and balanced Fox News is.
October 24th, 2006 at 11:55 amFFS, stop responding to this Darryl loser. He’s paid to disrupt the conversation of adults.
Let him play in the faeces-ridden sandbox that is his understanding of world events. Even be happy for his cretinous little mind when he gets a pat on the head.
But when you actually respond to him you bring the level of this blog down.
Which is exactly what his masters want.
I’ve fallen into the same trap in the past. Surely he deserves the ridicule?
People like that aren’t WORTH the ridicule.
Just make sure you vote in November…
October 24th, 2006 at 12:04 pmwhile every comment that i have read on here has a good point that fox was crasy in saying that, most of the people on here are one minded.. america was founded on the fact that people 1 have the right to say what they want and 2 chose to do what they want, if some one wants to listen to this let them, If you ask me we should all vote independent because party politics have become all canadates are about, and then we never get anything done.
October 24th, 2006 at 12:12 pmWill FOX ratings drop even more when control of both houses change?
October 24th, 2006 at 12:20 pmJohn
I agree with the sentiment of vote independent, unless that independent is Joe Lieberman (An independent who claims to be a Democrat yet is primarily supported by Republicans. Just where his loyalties lie may be a problem. It certainly isn’t with the people of Conneticut, when you consider what he achieved for them, 22c per dollar less of their tax money back.)
That said I strong believe that Fox News is morally outrageous. It purports to be the news yet it has a history of defending its right to lie about the news. You cannot trust a news source that in court argued that it lied but it had the right to.
October 24th, 2006 at 12:29 pm-Rather-Gate
-BBC admits liberal slant and ratings drop
-CNN propagandizes for terrorist snipers while ratings are in the toilet
-Fox News has its problems but WOW, what is the alternative?
You lefties are loony. Who cares if Clinton inherited NAFTA? What does that mean? Did that require him to sign it?
And this:
The DOW:
Clinton: begin 3200 -> 10900 end
Bush: begin 10900 -> 12100 now
I do not recall Clinton dealing with the things Bush has dealt with. I’m not giving Bush a pass, he is a bonehead like EVERY politician, but lets be realistic. Clinton had it so good he found time for slickie in the oval office. But I guess that jibes with liberal morals.
Don’t worry though, if we end up a Democrat-run gov’t the Republicans will be around to save your asses when you need them.
October 24th, 2006 at 12:40 pmHey, like, would we socialize medicine and health care in the first 100 days? Could it be done?
Gern
October 24th, 2006 at 12:50 pmSo, how does this idiot explain the fact that under the Democrats (Clinton), we not only did away with our deficit, we ended up with a surplus and the economy was better than it had been in years? This guy is an idiot. Fortunately the only people who listen to him are idiots just like he is. They would never vote for a Democrat anyway so he is simply preaching to the choir.
October 24th, 2006 at 12:52 pmWill Fox News EVER get their heads out of their asses??
October 24th, 2006 at 12:56 pmWhy does FOX even bother to erect this facade of “commentators” to mask their propaganda? No one would stop them if they suddenly went transparent. More likely they’d probably get some credit from the left.
October 24th, 2006 at 12:57 pmjds
Is this why Bush has had the most vacation time of any president in America’s history? When things are going wrong, well I don’t know about you but where I live that is when you GO TO WORK.
You do not take whole month’s off at a time (The August just before 9/11 for example) and then get to moan about how tough you had it in comparison to the next guy.
And don’t tell me that Bush was keeping well informed on his ranch. “Heck of a Job Brownie” does not speak of him keeping well informed.
You do not cut funding to things like the levee system in New Orleans, after the locals have come up with plans to modernise it in view of the fact that 2004 was a record year for hurricanes in the Gulf, and then moan about how hard you had it because of Hurricane Katrina.
No president has EVER had an easy time of the presidency. Franklin D Roosevelt had the Great Depression, and WWII. Linden B Johnson had the Vietnam war and the KKK’s civil war with the civil rights movement, Bush Snr, had the first gulf war and the end of the cold war.
Clinton had to deal with the fallout from the Cold War. Russia back then was economically fragile, terrorism was on the rise and hard to get a handle on (Clinton was the first president to have a comprehensive policy on terrorism) and his terms saw a lot of planned strikes on the US. Unlike Bush, who has the almost unprecedented advantage of having both Congress and the Senate held by his own party, Clinton had both held by the opposition. Make no mistake, that Clinton’s terms of office were quiet, is more a statement of how well Clinton did, then of how easy things were.
Bush by comparison has actually had a very easy presidency. If Clinton had say, suspended Habeaus Corpus for anyone, he would have been indicted, stripped of office, and thrown in jail. Bush has done this without consequences. Heck if Clinton had instituted the systematic wire-tapping of Americans, he would have been indicted, stripped of office, and thrown in jail. Bush has thus far, gotten away with murder. Lets be honest about it, if Bush ate a baby chances are the Republican Congress and Senate would just pass a law saying the president can eat babies.
October 24th, 2006 at 1:00 pmOh Yeah! The Economy under Bill Clinton was a disaster! Everybody was making lots of money during Clinton’s term and the Republicans would NOT have any of that!
October 24th, 2006 at 1:05 pmThe Republicans are trying to completely destroy the Middle Class, and many morons from the middle class are helping the GOP to destroy their OWN lives.
How stupid is that?
Maybe FOX meant “Republicans”…remember D-Foley? Maybe they got mixed up again, and they meant the Republicans will crush the economy!!!
October 24th, 2006 at 1:05 pmI think this was just an honest typo….the Fox telestrator typist OBVIOUSLY meant to type “Will Dems erase the Bush deficits, largest in US history, and bring us back to the days of Clinton administration surpluses?”
October 24th, 2006 at 1:05 pmI like the Comment by unitynow “Faux News should be retitled ‘GOP NEW.” We should all make Stickers and every where there is a TV with Fox News on we should put a sticker on it or tape a sign on it.
October 24th, 2006 at 1:12 pmMake sure you call 5 friends the week before election day, the day before election day, and the day of the elections to make sure they get out and vote.
VOTE + 5 = Call 5 Friends. Spread the word!!
VOTE + 5 = Success on Election Day!!!!!
If anyone needs a ride, give it to them. If anyone needs assistance registering to vote, help them. If anyone tries to stop you from voting, report them. The Republicans are going to do everything they can to stop the Voter turnout. Don’t let them get away with it.
October 24th, 2006 at 1:18 pmConsider the source- its’ FoKKKs “news”:. Unfortunately many who aren’t that bright believe them.
October 24th, 2006 at 1:32 pmHow can they ask that question with a staight face. I am glad that I don’t have any children to pay off the debt that the “Charge and Spend” Republicans have left to the next generation.
October 24th, 2006 at 1:32 pmThat is beautiful, Bruce. But, Clinton had to deal with fallout? FALLOUT? He had to deal with FALLOUT? How comprehensive of a terrorism strategy is NOT KILLING THE BAD GUY? Sure, Bin Laden isn’t the only terrorist out there, but he was the masthead. And, it is quite irresponsible to compare Clinton or Bush to any president that served more than 24 years ago. Come one… to do so is like me ragging on my neighbor’s old Corvair because it is not up to par with my Honda Accord.
Duh, Bruce. But I’ll play irresponsible with you:
Clinton was pathetic. Why? Because Alexander the Great was able to conquer most of Eurasia. Yeah, take that!
Bush is the best president ever. Why? Because the Caesars couldn’t keep christianity and the slaves in check.
Man, what a crack-pot argument you put up.
The vacation thing… Good point; that really ticks me off too. I find it reprehensible that Bush finds so much time to vacation. Seems to me that no President would vacation. I rationalize that accepting the office pretty much writes off a President’s free time. They can have their free back when they leave office.
Let’s make no mistake… Dems are notorious for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Regardless of platform, Dems seem to like to lose. Example? I voted for it, I voted against it, I voted for it, I voted against it, I voted for it, I voted against it. Anyone remember how I voted?
October 24th, 2006 at 1:55 pmWhat is Fox talking about? We haven’t had an economy since 2001. We’ve had a federal “halliburton” slush fund, complete with fake number systems and Enron accounting. We “lost” $12,000,000,000 (that’s BILLION) dollars in the opening days of the “war” in Iraq (Under the “Help Republican Grandkids” Provisional Authority). On January 1, 2001 we had a country. Now we have an emptying pig trough. And Bush is talking about “fixing” Social Security (like saying, “I’ll fix his wagon”). Hastert says he’ll fire anyone who had anything to do with knowing about Foley, and it will be just like Bush saying he would “take care” of anyone who had anything to do with outing Plame, and now we all know Rove was there and Bush is still “taking care” of Rove (”not a part of this administration” anymore?) by just ignoring the “word of the President of the United States of America (um, duh, HIMSELF). That’s honor all right, ain’t it?
October 24th, 2006 at 1:55 pmYou know I must admit I’m in a pit of vipers here, and I’ve heard a lot of negative things about this site… but I kind of like it.
I’d like to go on record by saying that I think we need some sort of change. Not sure if Dems have anything for us and I’m not sure if my Repubs do either. Nader is too loopy and Jesse Ventura looks too much like Carville tied to a buffet.
And, I watch Fox news. I stopped watching CNN when they put up the sniper video. I’ve seen this idiot on Cavuto’s show before and he is truly a greedy maroney.
All things aside, no president has been perfect and no second term has been without scandal.
I wonder how many people agree with that…
October 24th, 2006 at 2:02 pmjds you’re an idiot, and you’re counting on others being as dumb as you if you think your argument is going anywhere. Clinton dealt with 8 years of 24-7 attacks from gop malcontents and a Congress run by the gop. The god damned gop has been running the show since ‘94 – it has all turned to shit in their hands – Dubbie couldn’t find his ass with both hands, even though his “crew” has total control over DC – gop policies have failed (they always do – some of us can remember back to the ‘80-’92 years) – and anyone who thinks otherwise is either a billionaire defense contractor or a dummy – which are you jds?
October 24th, 2006 at 2:10 pmThe sneaky thing about the “red” republicansandanistas is that they are destroying the economy purposly by adding bloated debt to the federal budget. Eveything looks fine on the surface until one day you wake up with the same feeling that you get after painting the town red. Eventually it will further separate the divide between the rich and poor (republicansandanistas and the rest of us). Its an interesting approach indeed since its something that we cant really see and touch, but our grandchildren will. By that time, the disparity between rich and poor will be even greater. And THEY know that. Too bad most dont realize the truth.
October 24th, 2006 at 2:10 pmjds
Do you want to know where modern terrorism comes from? It comes from economically weak people who were in economically important areas, being trained to bring down the government of those areas in order to avoid capitalist or communist control of the resources held by those areas. Bin Laden was one amongst many trained by the US to fight Russia, and the same can be said of members of his organisation, save that they were trained to fight America. Can you think of any better way to describe that then to call it fallout?
Bill Clinton hunted for Osama Bin Laden when America was accusing him of wagging the dog. It is part of historic record, they even played clips of that movie whenever he mentioned terrorism. That he failed is not a reflection of irresponsibility on his part, particularly when you consider that after 6 years of George Bush having a blank cheque to do whatever he wanted to get Osama, Osama is still out there alive and well. The CIA unit dedicated to hunting him however, has been shut down, and re-opened whenever politically expedient.
Clinton did not have that blank cheque, but after the first WTC bombing, there was not another successful Islamic terrorist strike on US soil up until eight months into Bush’s reign. That is the direct result of Clinton’s anti-terror policy, because there were attemps (Day Of Terror, the Millenium Attacks, etc…)
Indeed one of Clinton’s key victories in the war on terror was capturing the last of the original WTC bombers, Ali Mohamed, the guy who the Bush Administration would later use as a source of information on where Osama’s training camps were in Afghanistan. (BTW I still agree with the war in Afghanistan.)
Their was only one time which Clinton had a chance to kill Osama, and the missile missed. Osama had a spy in Pakistan who warned him just before the missiles hit. Note that telling Pakistan was obligatory, as the Pakistani’s could have just shot the missile down as it crossed their airspace and called it grounds for war. Pakistan is a nuclear power. Other then that, there was never a point at which US agents had Osama Bin Laden in their sights, the rest of the incidents are largely mythical.
About all you can say Clinton never did, was he didn’t invade Afghanistan after the USS Cole bombing. This was because the FBI refused to certify that Bin Laden was behind it, the neighbouring states refused to give the US landing rights, and because the military advised in the strongest possible terms, against sending in troops by night (The only remaining option.)
Now contrast this to 9/11. Osama is still at large, as are the majority of the plotters behind 9/11. What progress has been made in Afghanistan is being reversed by the losses being made in Iraq. The UK for the first time in its history (which includes controlling Middle Eastern territories) has been hit by Islamic terror strikes, and what is more, the strikes were perpetrated by second generation Britains.
Iraq, has gone from a mild nuisance to a central point in fighting terror (Before Bush invaded, it was a evil dictatorship that was hostile to Osama, who called Saddam a heretic.) Lebanon and Israel are now at greater odds then before, and Hezbollah has made itself stronger then ever before. Meanwhile Iran is talking nuclear and Pakistan has declared itself neutral to the Taliban. World support of America has gone from an all time high on 9/11, to a all time low, with America now being considered the greatest threat to world peace.
October 24th, 2006 at 2:37 pmBruce, you forgot to end with: ‘Mission Accomplished’
October 24th, 2006 at 2:45 pm#221
Bruce Gorton
Thanks for that post re: Jane Akre and Steve Wilson.
I saw a documentary regarding this a few months ago, but I forgot the names of the two reporters.
A diabolical expliotation of the 1st Amendment by Faux News.
October 24th, 2006 at 2:50 pmTom Baker
Tom, I’m no idiot. I wish I were so you could feel better about yourself. I do not need people to agree with me, either, for my point to go anywhere. If that were the case why would I have come here to discuss/debate? I think you might be a little too wrapped up in your memorized history lessons.
Want to know which I am? I’m a thousandaire. A middle class thousandaire that wants more for his family. I feel Repubs are more in line with my desires that Dems. I do not want socialized medicine, but healthcare is currently too high. I do not want gay marriage, but think the term civil union is appropriate. I do not want to be blown up by Ali Baba and his magic carpet, but feel Dems can’t protect me. It is all perspective. Repubs never claim to tolerate beliefs that are out of line with their own. Dems do. Where is your toleration? Man, I think you’re a numb-nuts. now I see why whiny kids grow up to be conservatives. http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004831.htm
Bruce
You make good points. I do not blame Clinton or Bush for 9/11. Sure they have BOTH protected us to an extent and everyone could do more. I am also aware of how terrorists originate. And, this may blow your mind, but I think Clinton was a good Pres. The slickie in the oval was horrible, but the $50 million wasted on impeachment was worse. As far as killing Osama; Cllinton did have a chance and did not take it. Neither you nor I know everything about the situation(s) but we both know he did have a chance and for whatever reason missed it. I agree with Afghanistan and Iraq. However, Iraq was screwed up by everyone involved. Everyone. I think that in twenty years bush will be regarded as a good president; akin to what happened to the perception of Reagan.
But hindsight is pretty darn good.
America may be seen as the greatest threat but we are also seen as the only country with the cajones to stand up and save everyoen when they need saving. No one is perfect, but for some reasokn they all keep coming back to us. That has to say something about our leadership and values.
I do not see us as any type of threat; unless you (not you personally) are some nut-job dictator that fears losing power. then all you gotta do is blame America (Chavez, Jong-Il, anyone?).
October 24th, 2006 at 3:00 pmYou stinking libs anger me! I am carrying the torch for every rich white guy that makes more than $500,000.00 per year! Sure I may make between $75 and $100k per year, but dang it, leave the rich alone! Haven’t they suffered enough!?? I know the economic gap is pretty wide in this country and lower income and middle class families, including my own and everyone I know are having a harder time making ends meet, but I figure if I keep going to bat for the elite, perhaps they’ll notice how supportive I am and give me a little something for my allegiance.
October 24th, 2006 at 3:03 pmJDS, isn’t it interesting that you always fall back to Bill Clinton’s penis? When all else fails, blame Clinton and talk about his penis. I always find it ironic how republicans say homosexuals and liberals and tolerance are part of the problem with this country and moral relativeness is at the heart of Americas’ deterioration. Yet, it’s your party of intolerance, racism,huuuuuge deficits, homophobia, education in ruins, the environment under attack, the constitution a transient document, the murder of over a half a million innocent people and the wrecking of our stature in the world yet all you have as an answer at your disposal is to blame Clinton. I find your arguments weak. I have never seen a party of people do so little and that do nothing to solve the ills of this nation or it’s society other than use the actions or inactions of the past administration as it’s scapegoat. You have no answers, you have no solutions other than to continually pound the drum of “blame someone else” rather than look at the deficiencies of your own cult. How do things improve with that as your answer to any question? What on earth does that do to solve the issues of the present? Or is it that you are so obsessed with Clinton’s penis that you look for any opportunity to bring it up? Just wondering.
October 24th, 2006 at 3:24 pmjds
you say “I do not want socialized medicine, but healthcare is currently too high”
What is it with you conservatives that don’t want universal medical coverage like every other western democracy enjoys?
Because pooling taxpayers money together to standardize systems and Doctor wages and buying in bulk from the Pharmacutical companies, etc…saving the cost of Medical millions (taxpayer savings) is not what you believe in?
You’d rather pay more for your medical services because of some outdated ideology?
Here in Canada, our Medicare system, while there are always problems, is one of the highest valued thing in every poll.
It costs much less per person than the US system, all of that with anyone, at any time, can go into any hospital, and see any doctor they want, and get treated for anything. It is accepted as a right here that the government will take care of your medical needs. gasp Communism!
A question, why do you put up with “socialized” policing in your country, or county, or city? By your logic shouldn’t it be that the richest neighborhoods that can afford policing get it, and the poorer neighborhoods not get it?
Do you not feel more comfortable knowing that you are (supposedly) equal to your fellow man in the eyes of the police? That things like uniforms, police cars, training schools etc are bought in bulk thus saving the taxpayer?
You cons can’t think outside of your own little boxes. We are the Progressives, you are the Regressives.
October 24th, 2006 at 3:41 pmjds
You misunderstand me; Bill took the chance it just didn’t work out due to unforseen circumstances.
Iraq, was a bad decision. It is the wellspring of Iran going nuclear, of North Korea hurrying its testing, of all of the basic shit you have now. With Iraq America is tied down, there just isn’t much you can do about anything else. It is not that I support Saddam, it is that the timing for taking out Saddam couldn’t have been worse. When you have one war, don’t make another if you don’t have to.
My feeling is, that in twenty years Bush will be remembered as one of the worst, if not the worst, presidents in American history. You see, every other president has one major national success to cover himself with, even Jimmy Carter had 3 Mile Island. Bush, on the other hand, not so much.
His moment of glory, 9/11, was ultimately a failure that didn’t show courage or anything much else. His war in Afghanistan was half won when the war in Iraq started, but has since gone south due to innattention. His war in Iraq, is turning into a second Vietnam.
In part what went wrong with Bush was not entirely his fault. Believe it or not it was the fault of Congress and the Senate, both of which abdicated their usual places to check and balance the president. Under Clinton they did this to great effect, indeed Clinton’s administration is one of the cleanest on record, because Congress and the Senate stood against him. It is an extremely valuable thing to have someone who will say “no” to you.
Bush, if he had been checked and balanced by Congress and Senate, if they had not put party before state as both parties did (With the exception of such figures as Feingold and Murtha, who stood firm on their responsibilities) and if they had acted in the same manner with Bush as they did with Clinton, Bush would have been considered a okay president, maybe even a good one. Unfortunately, thanks to the way the Republicans have acted, Bush is already being called the worst by historians.
October 24th, 2006 at 3:50 pmClinton tried and failed to socialize medicine, but only because the country rebelled and put more Republicans in office.
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October 24th, 2006 at 3:55 pmgreenmonkey,
If medicine was socialized it would be gov’t-managed. I do not trust the gov’t to manage it. Nor do I trust a corporate conglomerate to manage it. the way it is works, except for all the pay-off money being funneled back and forth between big-pharmacy and those that make laws. I don’t presume to think my party is near perfect, not even close, but I just do not feel that socialized medicine is the way to go. I honestly do not have any facts to back it up, just the way I rationalize it. And, I can think outside of my box, I truly think the best party would be one that took the best of both worlds and merged them into an agreeable platform.
Facism,
I’m not the one typing about Clinton’s little willy; you are. I mentioned the disgraceful act he commited and subsequently mentioned the disgraceful act the Repubs commited by wasting money attacking him for it. I used it as a colloquialism. But I assume you already knew that. Regarding your rich-guy post… It is not the fault of the Republican party that you cannot manage your finances. If you choose to live outside your means; so be it. Deal with the repercussions. My family income is between $125K and $175K and we manage just fine. You seem intolerant and a little bitter. Perhaps you should give good ole Dave Ramsey a call.
October 24th, 2006 at 3:56 pmI do not trust the gov’t to manage it.
I love this argument. As if the insurance companies are doing a bang-up job.
October 24th, 2006 at 4:15 pmIf you choose to live outside your means; so be it. Deal with the repercussions. My family income is between $125K and $175K and we manage just fine.
The rallying cry of the greedy rich. If you make nearly $200K annually, then why can’t everybody? Gosh us lazy bastards with massive student loans, working 80 hour weeks to squeeze out a decent living while our managers work 20 hour weeks and live in mansions.
October 24th, 2006 at 4:18 pmSince Fox is obviously running an election-related message, the Democrats should demand equal time:
“Will continuing Republican control of government bring even more chaos and disaster?”
Bushian loyalty is no virtue–it’s the loyalty of thieves
October 24th, 2006 at 4:26 pmjds, I virtually have no debt other than my house and a car, I live well within my means. That’s the difference, I am not talking about just me, I believe if we live in a society that thinks only of themselves and sees value in knocking down those that cannot help themselves or those that could use a little help but are not granted it we are all diminshed for it.
I am talking about the low income families that don’t see any benfit from having a republican in office and control of both house and senate to funnel their hard earned tax dollars, billions and billions into an illegal war to go kill other poor people that have never done thing to them.
That is my point. You seem to be beholden to an ideology where you admit you have no proof to back up your claims (healthcare). You seem beholden to an ideology that Democrats are incapable of protecting you because you’ve been indoctrinated by the far right demigods Hannity, Gingrich and Limbaugh that if Democrats win, we’ll all be less safe. You’ve bought that fear, you’ve bought that lie. You are a model conservative, because you’ll go to bat for them and debate your ideas, which is your right obviously.
Even if they are based on distortions, (we were never about cut and run; they had wmd’s; we will be greeted as liberators; the military commissions act protects Americans; we have a coalition of the willing; compassionate conservatism….Shall I go on?) that is all but lost on you even if in your heart you don’t believe it.
My point about his “willy” is that where ever I have read an argument against the current administration there is invariably a knee jerk reaction to point blame and look downward to deflect, distract and lie about what Clinton did and did not do. I will admit that you’re somewhat more civil than most that I’ve debated and if I come across as bitter, you may be onto something, as for intolerant, I don’t see where you can point to anything I’ve said that could be construed as such and have no idea who Dave Ramsey is.
October 24th, 2006 at 4:33 pmBut bitter? You call it bitter, I call it frustration that over the past 6 years this administration has written the book on what not to do regarding everything from foreign policy, troop deployment, illegal wire tapping of citizens, illegal, immoral wars, suppressing voter turn out in under priviliged neighborhoods, I could go on and on and on, the list of my grievances is lengthy and growing, so I bid you good morning on your realization that most of the country feels exactly the way I do, or at least some variation thereof, so yeah, I am bitter, I’m pissed and I want my f-in country back and I want us to be respected in the world again and want people to want to work with us. I want people who cannot defend themselves from financial troubles to be able to have some hope rather than see the casm widen more and more. I want this country to above everything else do well, but more over to do good. If that makes me come across as bitter than yes, I suppose I am.
Ask a vet about the VA. Just about all the vetsI talked to love it. And who runs that socialized system. The gov.. gover…I can’t say it!
October 24th, 2006 at 5:15 pmFascism+American+Style
Tao Te America
If you wish to be a great patriot
You must follow your conscience
Stand against control.
Listen to what others say,
But learn to govern yourself.
The more condemnations you speak
The less virtuous you will become
The more hatred you have
The less secure you will be
The more terror you accept
The less free you will be
Thus the true American says:
I let go of others’ sins
October 24th, 2006 at 5:17 pmand I become good
I let go of others’ failures
and I become successful
I let go of my petty fears
and I become serene
I let go of all desire for personal political power
And political power becomes the right of all.
JDS and all the other right wingers forget this abotu Clinton and Bush. Clinton had to start from scratch with Osama. His administration had to learn about these people, where they were and who they were etc… On day one of Bush’s tenure he should have knwon all of this. But 8 months later…
October 24th, 2006 at 5:33 pm“My family income is between $125K and $175K” and so, jds, do you realize that people that make $1 million a year actually pay LESS in taxes than YOU do? Yeah, that’s Bu$hCO for you- the rich get richer, and all the rest o ya can f**k off!
Is that fair to YOU? Since you people seem to care about yourselves ONLY, that should piss you off. YOU are getting screwed, hello? YOU and YOUR FAMILY are footing the tax bill for the uber-rich. Does that seem fair and right to you? Since WHEN do the uber-rich get to stick all of US with THEIR financial responsibilities? That’s Lord and Serf type stuff. Don’t you think we’ve should have progressed beyond the “I’ve got it all, and all you scum have none” state yet?
But hey, that’s YOUR PARTY for ya. “Screwing the People so we can have EVEN MORE!” and you’re CHEERING for it. Don’t you understand that they are taking dollars out of YOUR WALLET??
Wake the flock UP, dude- you’ve been HAD. Just because they SAY they’re “one of you” DOESN’T MEAN THAT THEY ARE, hellllllllooooooo???? Weren’t you people supposed to be on the watch for false prophets, ie “wolves in sheep’s clothing”?
Not all threats originate outside our borders.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:54 pmThe Cavuto strikes again!
October 24th, 2006 at 7:18 pmjds is obviously here to stir up the pot with the same old tired batch of strawmen and half-truth and selctive memory that all the other asshiles like him always do – does anyone ever wonder whether they’re all just the very same person, like an intern that works at Fox, or some shit like that….i’m done with’em
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October 24th, 2006 at 8:05 pmOh, will the country be able to survive this? Hope so. The country survived the War on Christmas, the War on Easter and the War on Christians with the help of Fox. If it were not for Fox we would all be doomed to God only knows what.
October 24th, 2006 at 8:46 pmJust so Caputo knows, countries with a social democratic government have the strongest economies in the world. Some social democracies at the top of the list- Spain, Sweden, Netherlands, Brazil, China, Austria, the emerging Latin American countries, ALL of which are recovering from right wing governments.
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October 25th, 2006 at 11:37 amWho let Mr. Peepers out of his cage? Somone get this monkey a banana.
Didn’t a survey of economists in the WSJ recently conclude that the economy would improve under Demoratic control? Yup, they did.
October 26th, 2006 at 1:36 amNow that the Dem’s are in control the air seems to smell better, the sun seems brighter and there is a light breeze of hope at everyone’s back.
Thanks to everyone who voted on November 7th!
A Special Thanks to Keith O., The HuffPo, The Daily Show, YouTube, Digg, MoveOn and everyone else who together and individually worked hard to get this country back on Track. I can only say… AWESOME!!!
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