Rumsfeld Agrees Bush Is ‘Not Backing Away From Staying The Course’
Rumsfeld Agrees Bush Is ‘Not Backing Away From Staying The Course’
Faced with widespread disappoval of its Iraq policy, the Bush administration launched a coordinated effort this week to convince Americans it has never had a stay-the-course strategy in Iraq. On Sunday, President Bush said, “We’ve never been stay the course.” White House Counselor Dan Bartlett disavowed the label again yesterday.
But in a radio interview today with Sean Hannity, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld confirmed that the Bush administration isn’t planning to shift its strategy. Rumsfeld called media reports about Bush’s reversal “nonsense,” and said “of course” Bush is “not backing away from staying the course.”
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Full transcript:
HANNITY: A lot of debate has no emerged over the phrase “stay the course,” and what that actually means. “Well, the President is backing away from staying the course.”
RUMSFELD: Aww, that’s nonsense.
HANNITY: He’s not backing away from staying the course?
RUMSFELD: Of course not. The concern was that it gave opponents the chance to say, “Well, he’s not willing to make adjustments,” and of course, just the opposite is true.
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Now wait a minute. Didn’t an administration spokesperson just yesterday say they never said stay the course and now Rummy said “of course†Bush is “not backing away from ’stay the course.’â€
October 24th, 2006 at 4:51 pmMy head hurts.
Where’s my lyingbastardometer?
October 24th, 2006 at 4:51 pmSomeone is obviously not with the program. The administration has to make up its mind. Which slogan is it to be- stay the course or Stay and Die?
October 24th, 2006 at 4:53 pmCaption Contest; Push the button, Pull the Chain and out from Rummys mouth comes the chocolate choo choo train!!
October 24th, 2006 at 4:53 pmWow, the GrOPers [predators] are imploding right before our very eyes, the Buckley fax machine must be offline!!
October 24th, 2006 at 4:56 pmcome on Bush never lies!
October 24th, 2006 at 4:58 pmwhat happened to the BushCo iron-fisted message control? There’s so many mixed messages, I can’t tell flip from flop.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:01 pmRUCerious, I’d be surprised if existing lyingbastardometers were able to provide an accurate reading for gang. The needle will only travel so far before it pegs.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:02 pmTell Main Street USA one thing on the MSM and then get on a partisan talk show to tell your base that you really don’t mean it. This administration is so full of it .
October 24th, 2006 at 5:02 pmNotice the similarity here.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:02 pmSounds like a bunch of flip floppers!
October 24th, 2006 at 5:03 pmBut now my Country’s become a laughing stock,
And the Gop’s to blame…
Goper’s Lament
October 24th, 2006 at 5:03 pmQuadra - sounds like an emerging market!
October 24th, 2006 at 5:03 pmThis is the first truth Rummy as spoken and he probably doesn’t even realize it.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:03 pmAh yes, but Bush’s 35% or so supporters will follow Rummy’s lead and blame the media. In the end, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what Bush & Co. were after.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:03 pmDoes this mean Bush is a “cut and run coward” or not?
October 24th, 2006 at 5:04 pmCaption contest:
“Pull my finger and I’ll expel the plan to win Iraq from my ___.”
October 24th, 2006 at 5:04 pmDidn’t he get the message of this week?
October 24th, 2006 at 5:05 pmBush has contradicted himself so many times, flip-flopped so many times Rove can’t keep the troops in line.
Even the press secretary can’t keep the talking points straight, so what do you expect from a senile old man?
So would this be considered a flip-flop-flip? Or a flop-flip-flop? Hard to tell with this misadministration. Guess they are having a problem keeping Rummy on the message. Where is that vaunted message discipline? I guess it’s pretty damn difficult to project a consistant position when no amount of messaging can cover up the incompentent mess that these deluded criminals have created.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:06 pmUncle Ho - Bush may be a drawoc - a coward who runs backward. But he was not for cutting and running before he wasn’t for staying the course.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:06 pmThe entire US media is saying today that the administation is changing its “stay the course” lingo even though the administration said that it never used “stay the course,” but now the administration is saying that they did say “stay the course” and they are not backing away from “stay the course” even as they change from “stay the course.” It’s really very simple.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:07 pmForget being on the same page, or even the same book - - these guys aren’t even in the same library.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:07 pmCaption:
October 24th, 2006 at 5:07 pmAnd we know where staying the course is, north, in the south and somewhat.
Just what I wanted to see on any given day, a picture of the slimy little lounge lizard with hand’s like chicken feet telling us more lies….Not….Go F*** you’re self rummy, better yet take the rest of the war mongers with you and have a cluster f***…..
October 24th, 2006 at 5:10 pmSo this is what an implosion looks like from the front row…
Forget lyingbastardometers and start investing in hurricane gear. This one’s gonna be a Cat 5… :)
October 24th, 2006 at 5:10 pmCaption:
October 24th, 2006 at 5:12 pmNext question. The next reporter I call on will be named the new ambassador to Iraq……hmmmm….no more questions……okay. Thank you everyone.
Here’s Dumbya himself with George Stephanopoulos on Sunday:
Stephanopoulos asked about James Baker’s plan to develop a strategy for Iraq that is “between ’stay the course’ and ‘cut and run.’â€
Bush responded, ‘We’ve never been stay the course, George!’
I guess in a sense Rummy’s right, bush isn’t backing away from it, he’s denying it completely…….
October 24th, 2006 at 5:12 pmAnyone wonder why the war is complete disaster? Can you imagine the generals trying to devine who is speaking with authority in this administration? I wonder if Bush has found Iraq yet on the Google?
October 24th, 2006 at 5:13 pmbetter yet take the rest of the war mongers with you and have a cluster f***…..
Comment by Sharon Cox — October 24, 2006 @ 5:10 pm
You say the sweetest things :D
October 24th, 2006 at 5:13 pmSo Rummy is now the Decider? bwahahhahaaa!!
October 24th, 2006 at 5:15 pm#14 - RUCerious, that’s how the republicans are you know, always creating economic opportunities. Maybe we can get in on the ground floor.
#26 - Hey UB, how ya doing?
October 24th, 2006 at 5:15 pmRumsfeld to Generals: “Stay the course but don’t stay the course, of course.”
October 24th, 2006 at 5:16 pmAnd now he’s calling dear leader a liar? Bwahahahhaaa!!!
October 24th, 2006 at 5:17 pmTranslation: of course he’s staying the course in Iraq, but as the president himself has said……it’s his job to “catapult the propagandaâ€â€¦â€¦and that catapult is constantly in need of “adjustmentsâ€â€¦..
October 24th, 2006 at 5:18 pmIs it time for the camp out at the B. Grove already?
October 24th, 2006 at 5:19 pm[…] So sez Darth Rumsfeld: […]
October 24th, 2006 at 5:20 pm32 Quadra - Yeah, the last time I used my lyingbastardometer during a Bush interview, the guage spring exploded. Hard to find those chrome plated #2 springs these days. Maybe I’ll upgrade to the digital version.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:20 pmCaption Contest (the ‘pull my finger’ one is ahead IMO):
“That handshake photo in 1983 didn’t tell the whole story.. after I got Saddam by the hand I poked him in the eye… like this…”
October 24th, 2006 at 5:21 pm“Stay the Course” is still #5 on the Top 10 GOP Sound Bites List.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:21 pmThere’s a parody of the Mr. Ed theme song waiting to be written in here somewhere…….
October 24th, 2006 at 5:21 pmWhen also being interviewed by Hannity, Cheney was more careful
Q Iraq obviously is the most controversial issue of the administration. The big, I guess, debate that’s going on now is over the phrase or the term — the President has used it in the past — “stay the course.” Now people say, well, we seem to be changing that phrase. What specifically is the administration’s position on that phrase, and what does that mean now?
THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, the way I think about it, Sean, is what our objective is obviously. And it’s to — in Iraq to get the situation stabilized with good government, self government, for the Iraqis, with adequate Iraqi security forces to deal with the security threat. That’s where we’re headed. That’s what it takes to complete the mission.
The process for getting there is to get the Iraqis actively involved in this process, to train and equip a 325,000-man force that’s capable of providing that security. So I think about it in terms of completing the mission.
Now, strategy has stayed the same pretty much all the way down the road. That is giving the Iraqis a position where they could deal with their own affairs. We change tactics from time to time. We move forces around different areas. Sometimes we’ve had to beef up our forces in order to deal with anticipated violence when there were national elections. We recently moved troops into Baghdad to help deal with the Baghdad security threat. So we are flexible in terms of how we adapt and adjust to individual circumstances. That’s the way I think about it.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:22 pmQuadra - You Psychic? That was just running through my head, courtesy of post #33!
October 24th, 2006 at 5:23 pmHey UB, how ya doing?
Comment by Quadrajet — October 24, 2006 @ 5:15 pm
I’m good. Thanks for asking. How are you?
It’s nice that there is finally some light at the end of this horrible neocon tunnel (more like a sewer, actually), huh? I just hope we keep moving toward it and don’t take that ‘detour’ that puts you in the middle of some dank monster-laden nightmare (sorry for the amusement park analogy, I’m planning a trip to Six Flags for the students in my class. Physics can be so much fun :)
October 24th, 2006 at 5:24 pm42 by P O’Neill, so Cheney actually tries to define the ‘course’ as getting Iraq into a stable government and then says the ’strategy’ hasn’t changed but the ‘tactic’ do change. The FACT is whatever the ‘course’ is or ’strategy’ is or ‘tactics’ are THEY HAVE ALL FAILED.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:32 pm#44 - all is well down here UB, just laughing as I watch the commercial for DeLay’s replacement trying to explain to the knuckle draggin’ republicans in that district how to ’spin the wheel’ and spell out her name - too bad they couldn’t find a candidate named ‘X’, they may have had a shot! You’re right, it’s nice to at least have the possibility of a light at the end of the tunnel, can’t wait for the 7th. Still concerned about what a desperate GOP might try to pull off though.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:33 pmBush and Rove are in charge of political propaganda - the front.
Cheney and Rumsfeld are in charge of actual policy.
The right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing.
The propaganda dept. is spinning faster than the policy dept. can keep up with - not that they really care. They’re going to do and say what they want anyway.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:35 pm“Stay the course” = car in reverse, spinning doughnuts in the desert, administration with blindfolds on, heading for the cliff.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:36 pmStill concerned about what a desperate GOP might try to pull off though.
Comment by Quadrajet — October 24, 2006 @ 5:33 pm
If Rove hasn’t managed to contain the embarassing Bush-Rumsfeld contradictions, I’m wondering if his magical powers have finally been exposed as nothing more than a man behind the curtain, and this is all there is left… Humiliating defeat? I don’t know if it’s a shift in the pedulum swing, or merely wishful thinking… But we sure do have a chance to save our country here. I hope we take it.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:38 pm#43 - RUCerious, never use my psychic powers around here - I think I’m better off just wondering what kind of a mind spits out shit like MA, Roger, et. al. than actually knowing……
October 24th, 2006 at 5:41 pm#49 - I hope we take it too UB. Having watched rove’s tricks here in Texas for a long time I put nothing beneath him - well, maybe Jeff Gannon but that’s it:) I think maybe things are falling apart faster than they can react to it. Too many fronts, only one karl.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:46 pmGlad you liked that one Unbelievable, sure nice the TP text is fixed. Hope it stay’s this way…
Some one posted that the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing with this bunch of neo con’s….Well I know, this bunch get’s off with graft, greed and war and then ofcourse we all knoiw what their other hand’s are doing…..Blessings all….2 week’s to go..
October 24th, 2006 at 5:49 pmThe Republicans don’t have a policy in Iraq. It was all supposed to magically take care of itself.
Just like the economy and everything else: get the government out of the way and the PRESTO!!!: paradise.
Idiots. Are they done yet?
October 24th, 2006 at 5:49 pm.
BUSH himself said that HE never said “stay the course”, on This Week with George Stephanopolous…
…I witnessed that with my own two eyes…
…and did Stephanopolous instruct his crew to pull up about twenty clips (that Olbermann found) that would’ve made Bush look like the lying sack of sh*t he is?
NOOOOOOO!
The same thing happened a little while ago on Hardball between Matthews and Snowjob…
…Chris puts it out there “stay the course”…
…Snowjob goes into some convoluted bullsh*t propaganda of what Bush REALLY meant…
…and Chris accepts the lie at face value without presenting video evidence to the contrary…
…THEY (al Cracker America) don’t want CHANGE!
October 24th, 2006 at 5:52 pmQuadrajet #50
This is why NO ONE should attempt to engage the inbred right wing Bushites in “intelligent” debate…
…they are intellectually retarded and morally dishonest…
…they are subhuman…
October 24th, 2006 at 5:54 pmOOOOOHHHHHHH!!! Tony is gonna be PISSED!! I bet he’s still queasy from all the spinning he was doing yesterday. I think Rummy’s going to be invisible till after the election now, because he won’t be quiet. :)
October 24th, 2006 at 5:57 pmToo many fronts, only one karl.
Comment by Quadrajet — October 24, 2006 @ 5:46 pm
By now it’s gotta be like trying to glue together all the broken china in the Republican Party with just one bottle of glue. He’s a big old tub of tackiness, yes, but just not quite big enough… Good.
October 24th, 2006 at 5:57 pmok, here it goes:
A course is a course, of course, of course,
anyone can talk about a course of course
That is, of course, unless the course is for the famous Middle East.
Go right to the source and stay the course
He’ll give you some answer you can’t endorse.
He’s sometimes on a steady course.
just like their talking heads.
People yakkity yak about Iraq and waste your time of day
we’ll never sway as long as there’s a course to stay
A course is a course, of course, of course,
And this one’ll fail ‘til his voice is hoarse.
We’ve never heard of ’staying the course’
Well listen to this: “I’m Misunderestimat Ed.”
October 24th, 2006 at 5:59 pm[…] On Sunday, President Bush told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos that his Iraq policy has “never been stay the course.” (Today, Rumsfeld disagreed, calling suggestions they were backing away from the phrase “nonsense.”) […]
October 24th, 2006 at 6:00 pmToo many fronts, only one karl.
October 24th, 2006 at 6:04 pmComment by Quadrajet — October 24, 2006 @ 5:46 pm
Reminds one of the One Legged Man in the Ass Kicking Contest!@
#58 - June, bwahahahahahaha - that’s funnier than hell! Thanks for the laugh….
October 24th, 2006 at 6:04 pmJune, BRAVO!!!!
October 24th, 2006 at 6:04 pmYou ever get the impression that the evening news is the only time they’re ever talking to each other?
October 24th, 2006 at 6:06 pmHey STUPID RUMMY….do you ever watch t.v. on sunday????????…your boss JUST SAID WE DON’T HAVE A POLICY OF ‘STAY THE COURSE’…!!
October 24th, 2006 at 6:19 pm…didn’t mean to yell folks..sorry…grrrrrrr
As always you libs have misinterpreted the actual quote. Yes, we will stay the course, but will eventually leave once the mission/plan of attack has been completed, think of it as a timeline. As always the liberal media attempts to hide the actual definition of that quote as well as others. Jesus’ will shall prevail. Republicans will win the majority of the seats in the House and Senate race.
October 24th, 2006 at 6:20 pmCaption Contest; “People say crap can only be stacked yay high, I am here to disprove that”
October 24th, 2006 at 6:21 pm…(sharon cox is using foul language…OMG…she must be pissed)….
October 24th, 2006 at 6:22 pmyou tell ‘em lady!
Now that Rumsfeld is on record as directly contradicting both President Rove and Mr. Bush, do you suppose he might *finally* get fired? Really, he’s betraying the party line and giving aid and comfort to the defeatocrats. That shouldn’t be tolerated!
October 24th, 2006 at 6:29 pmCaption contest: “Yes, the WMDs are over there”
October 24th, 2006 at 6:30 pm#65 - Hi Daryll - What do you suppose those permanent bases are going to be used for, mega mosques?
October 24th, 2006 at 6:34 pmDaryll -
Thought you might like this..
When a lute is played, there is no previous store of playing that it comes from. When the music stops, it does not go anywhere else. It came into existence by way of the structure of the lute and the playing of the performer. When the playing ceases, the music goes out of existence.
In the same way all the components of being, both material and nonmaterial, come into existence, play their part, and pass away.
October 24th, 2006 at 6:36 pm[…] Via Think Progress: HANNITY: A lot of debate has no emerged over the phrase “stay the course,†and what that actually means. “Well, the President is backing away from staying the course.†[…]
October 24th, 2006 at 6:38 pmIncompetent idoits can’t even coordinate their lies so they’re in synch with each other. How pathetic is that? And we wonder why they can’t win in Iraq.
October 24th, 2006 at 6:38 pmcheck wayne madsen for explanation. he predicts a battle btw the bushites and the cheney/rumsfeld neo-cons as to who will be the scapegoat for iraq. hence james baker on board with the bush crowd. and now rumsfeld countering the bush line.
October 24th, 2006 at 6:44 pmThanks, RUCerious & Quadrajet!! I couldn’t help myself.. It came to me also when I read #33, and knew I had to do it after Quadrajet noticed it., too. Now someone just needs to make a video using actual clips.
Daryll,
“Yes, we will stay the course”
-Just 2 days ago Bush said: “We’ve never been stay the course”
“think of it as a timeline”
-Bush also said that we will not provide a timeline to the terrorists.
“As always the liberal media attempts to hide…”
-Is this the same “liberal media” that didn’t question the President going into the war?
“As always you libs have misinterpreted the actual quote”
-Is that to more or less of a degree than you have misinterpreted the Bible?
“Jesus’ will shall prevail”
October 24th, 2006 at 6:44 pm-Why are you still confusing Jesus w/ Bush? Let your faith not lay in man… Will you change your mind about Jesus’ will when the Democrats win a majority?
Pop Quiz:
October 24th, 2006 at 6:50 pmA: Rumsfeld is senile.
B: Rumsfeld has Alzheimers.
C: All of the above.
Your War Slogan Wanted
October 24th, 2006 at 6:51 pmSo it looks like “STAY THE COURSE†is no longer our strategy for Iraq…
So now, the United States is looking for a new strategy for Iraq. With a new slogan!
Submit your ideas here. …[read them]
http://www.ofrankenfactor.com/
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Of course if one of them is to be believed then it has to be Rummy. The Chimp lies %100 of the time. Rummy only 70%.
October 24th, 2006 at 6:53 pmJune, good parody, good Daryll slapdown!
This same thing (stay the course/don’t stay the course) happened a few weeks ago when Ken Mehlman (sp?) was on, I think, Stephanopolos (it was either that or Press the Meat), and he said that they (the administration) had never been about “stay the course”, they were about “adapt and win.” Of course (there’s that word again!), he stumbled a few times over the new slogan. Then, within a few days, Bush said “stay the course” again.
October 24th, 2006 at 6:58 pmJune Good post!
You sure showed that imbecile Daryll!
Hey Daryll, you comparing Jesus to George W. Bush again? Pathetic…
October 24th, 2006 at 6:58 pmgod told bush to “stay the course”.
October 24th, 2006 at 7:00 pmwhat he’s for is stay the corpse
October 24th, 2006 at 7:01 pmyou tell em’ rummy. we’re going to stay the course until we win and that means all them sumsnabeeoootches are dead. that is what he is really saying.
October 24th, 2006 at 7:03 pmPete You serious?
I think you mean Satan told Dubya to “stay the course”…
October 24th, 2006 at 7:03 pmDaryll: “Jesus’ will shall prevail. Republicans will win the majority of the seats in the House and Senate race.”
Evidently Daryll and Jesus haven’t heard about republicraps working hard to maintain a system of forced sex labor and forced abortions in the Northern Marianas. Daryll, do you think Jesus would approve of politicians who work to maintain forced prostitution and forced abortions? Cause, unless you don’t reed tu guud, you should know about that by now.
October 24th, 2006 at 7:04 pmWhat’s the matter with you boomer lefties?
October 24th, 2006 at 7:04 pmYou all deaf?
I’ve been saying “Slay the Course”
and you thought I was talking about Iraq?
It’s just a golfing term idiots.
Upgrade your hearing aids, or something.
#77, ………….stay for the oil, of course
October 24th, 2006 at 7:13 pmPlease listen to David Bowie’s,”This is not America” on the “Falcon and the Snowman” DVD
October 24th, 2006 at 7:13 pmPerhaps Dubya and Rummy should try a re-do of Abbot and Costello’s famous “Who’s On First?” routine, only they would call it “Stay The Course?”
October 24th, 2006 at 7:30 pmIs that you Daryll? Or your brother Daryll?
There are three kinds of people in the world, those that will change their minds when presented with facts, those that won’t change their minds regardless of the facts, and those with no mind to change. Their heads are full of a curious mush of fertilizer and Jack Daniels with just a touch of meth.
Together these last two groups comprise 30% of Americans and support the Chimp in Chief, regardless of the facts.
I think Daryll belongs to the second group, based on his reference to Jeebus, but I could be wrong. Could be the third.
November Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 24th, 2006 at 7:30 pmJon Stewart and Stephen Colbert picked a bad time of the month to take a break. I would so look forward to their skewering of this issue were they not on hiatus. I can only hope they pick up the story for nationwide derision when they come back on the 30th, just in time for the election sweeps.
October 24th, 2006 at 7:30 pmDon’t forget about the Hussein verdict November surprise. Nothing like a death sentence two days before the election to give the sheeple a sense of closure.
October 24th, 2006 at 7:34 pmHey Daryll how many more people must your False Jesus, Arbusto, kill before the real Jesus returns to earth?
October 24th, 2006 at 7:36 pmThe plan was to remove Saddam from power and free the people of Iraq, not to foment civil war. The day Saddam was captured is the day that we should have left iraq.
October 24th, 2006 at 7:41 pmSo Donald does speak the truth, for once. Whatever propaganda you may hear about 18 months is pure bullshit. These clowns just like it as it is. American’s young mean nothing when it comes to controling the price of OIL. The mid set will sacrifice thousands more. Gas is DOWN $$1.00 and the barrel is off $15.00? Something just doesn’t add up except that the Saud (potus personal friends) want to manulipate OUR election from a tent in the desert and george sees this as perfectly acceptable.
October 24th, 2006 at 7:45 pmWake up and vote anything BUT republican.
I know, i came from the likes.
Swan, according to “State of Denial,” they’ve already done it a couple of times. In 2004, they flooded the market to keep prices down and help Bush get reelected. American Oil companies are scared crapless that Dems will impose a windfall profits tax retroactively on their last quarterly profits, which were the biggest profits in the history of corporate accounting.
October 24th, 2006 at 7:52 pmTHERES AN ELECTION ON AND THESE GUYS ARE CHASING THEIR OWN TAIL
THEY’RE GONE.
October 24th, 2006 at 7:55 pmThe course is the course, of course, of course.
And no one would not stay the course, of course.
Unless, of course, to stay the course,
Shoots our majority in the head.
— to the tune of Mr. Ed
October 24th, 2006 at 8:07 pmIf there’s one man more irrelevent than Dumbya right now, it’s Donald. Apparently, they don’t even bother sending him the daily talking points anymore.
October 24th, 2006 at 8:12 pmTony Snow was quoted in at least some articles of yesterday if not the day before and saying that Bush never said that the Bush administration was going to stay the course.
From what I recall, Bush himself was directly quoted saying the same thing, or else that they’re not saying this any longer; as opposed to leftists having put these words into Bush’s mouth without him having ever said them. So, iow, Bush, as far as I’m aware, indeed said this.
Now Rumsfeld, Dick Arney, and Tony Snow are being reported saying that of course Bush had said that they were staying the course. In the case of the Dick Arney article, it appears that staying the course is now being treated as not necessarily with respect to the Iraq War, but, instead, the GWOT in general. However, simple but clear common sense tells anyone who’s been paying very careful attention that the Iraq War is a main component of the GWOT and a rather, according to the Bush administration’s agenda, and, of course, therefore, PNAC; well, the Iraq War is a necessary component or part. So, whether they try to divert attention by pretending that staying the course was only meant with respect to the GWOT, not necessarily the Iraq War, we nevertheless know that the latter definitely is part of the staying the course agenda.
“US Camp Falcon Ammo Dump EXPLOSION Oct 10th: READ, posted by myself earlier today, InfowarsForum.com
October 24th, 2006 at 8:39 pmall this will stop if we elect democrats, right ??
October 24th, 2006 at 8:41 pm25 - “Just what I wanted to see on any given day, a picture of the slimy little lounge lizard with hand’s like chicken feet telling us more lies….Not….Go F*** you’re self rummy, better yet take the rest of the war mongers with you and have a cluster f***…..”
Comment by Sharon Cox
******I had a hunch - ingesting a bit more moonshine and a little more snake venom, Sharon Cox DOES make Paula Jones look refined….
October 24th, 2006 at 9:06 pmWhat a bunch pf pathological liars they are
October 24th, 2006 at 9:17 pmthey can no longer remember one lie from another
we are big big trouble
They are? They aren’t? They are? They aren’t?
This administration is just a bloody joke.
October 24th, 2006 at 9:45 pmOkay, so the republicans are cracking. But the fact remains that American kids are dying (as are Iraqi civilians, including innocent children), so it’s time to stop smirking and act like adults. This piling on about what a bunch of dopes the administation is is really pathetic.
We either increase forces to suppress the violence, convince ourselves we can withdraw with honor, or bleed ourselves to death with the present course. It is a really sad time for the United States, whether you are liberal, conservative, dove or hawk. The gloating on this page is inappropriate, and sad.
October 24th, 2006 at 9:47 pmTry “make adjustments” bad quote -Don’t!! lie like them… shame on you
October 24th, 2006 at 9:57 pmCaption contest- Pull my finger.
October 24th, 2006 at 10:01 pmJust to add to my earlier comment (#107) spinning and not being honest is why your sites lose another semi moderate -who are sick of lies and spin. (I Don’t feel need to check the site again and yeah I know … you won’t miss me much.)
But in whole makes your site obsolete. (Just incase, you want to prove me wrong -the concept was to make it as if Rumsfeld said “not backing away from staying the course”, which he didn’t say.) good luck
October 24th, 2006 at 10:12 pmMr. Rumsfeld? Please stay with the tour.
October 24th, 2006 at 10:23 pmOnce again, the liberal media has misunderestimted our president. He never said “Stay the Course.” He said “Stay the Coors” and from the look and sound of things, that’s exactly what he has been doing.
October 24th, 2006 at 10:27 pmGEORGE IS FLIP FLOPPING. FLIP FLOPPING. SAY IT. FLIP FLOPPING.
October 24th, 2006 at 10:29 pmTHAT’S WHAT THEY ACCUSED KERRY OF AND THAT WHAT’S THEY’RE DOING.
FLIP FLOPPING….ERRR.. FLIM FLAMMING. FLIM FLAMMING DAMNIT.
FLIP FLOPPING FLIM FLAMMING MOTHER FRIGGERS.
#84: Bush = Satan. Is that sulfur I smell?
October 24th, 2006 at 10:31 pmThe Animals are starting to eat their young.
October 24th, 2006 at 10:46 pmToo bad Rumsfeld can’t be like Truman’s Secretary of Defense and committ suicide.
Intrepid Liberal Journal
October 24th, 2006 at 11:05 pmsemantics semantics semantics. if you take everything literally, you wind up believing the world was made in 6 days (no offense, mr. prez). However imagine the phrase: while others want to cut and run, we stay the course
of course, what the speaker is implying is that the alternative to one label “cut and run”, is the other laber “stay the course”, here meaning stay in Iraq and finish the mission (whatever it may be).
However, is you apply the phrase “stay the course” literally, this implies an unwillingness to bend. As public discourse has altered the implication of the STC reference, our sub-Mensa president merely backed away from the phrase, while his smater, but misguided, co-workers went about elucidating the situation.
We are merely in a redifinition of the term, and it is more important to educate people about the actual issues of substance, like [ ]. Let it be, as arguing about it makes the cause seem petty.
i hope that made any kind of sense
October 24th, 2006 at 11:22 pmHere’s how it works. The Republicans are “staying the course” even though they’ve never been about “staying the course”. The first “staying the course” refers to the way they conduct their affairs (you know, the corruption, links with K street, mismanagement of the war on terrorism, the lies, that sort of thing). That will not change. The second “staying the course” refers to their talking points and slogans. Those will change and America votes for whoever has the best talking points and slogans (the true forte of the Republicans). I predict the Republicans will win with their not staying the course regarding the old slogan of staying the course and coming up with some fresh and better slogans.
God Bless America.
October 24th, 2006 at 11:54 pmHe’s TRYING to get fired. Bush just won’t let him out of that contract.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:02 amRumsfeld: Originally, ‘Stay the course’ was a white house dinner table expression, ‘like pass the potatoes please’.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:44 amTime to switch PR firms. See, this is what happens when you don’t take the time to focus group things beforehand. Where’s Rove when you need him?
October 25th, 2006 at 12:49 amvery funny — likens bush’s we were never stay the course to bewitched-style magic… links of ’stay the course’ articles from 2003 right after the invasion right through a couple of weeks ago…
http://www.miserywatch.com/2006/10/like_magic.html
October 25th, 2006 at 2:12 amWow, they’re actually forgetting their talking points. Rove must be in panic mode. He’ll try to launch a massive hail mary desperation negative ad campaign soon.
Hopefully the rest of the country will see right through their sheer desperation.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:19 amI am sad to say this, but it has been that for wquite a while I’m afraid.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:50 amI am sad to state the truth, but I am afraid that it has been that for quite a while now. A laughing stock that is.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:54 amAbsolutely brilliantl!
While everyday more and more dedicated American soldiers are needlessly killed and maimed in a horrific no-win situation, the Administration has successfully shifted the spotlight from their failed strategy (based on shameful misrepresentations originally made to the public) to a “controversy” over a slogan!
Boy, these guys are good!
October 25th, 2006 at 3:04 amBookend the prez and squeeze him like a zit… thanks Rummy (for once)!!!
October 25th, 2006 at 3:06 amYeah…didja get that memo?
October 25th, 2006 at 3:49 amFLIP FLOP!
October 25th, 2006 at 5:04 amPossibly they can get help from Alice to find their way home. Just as we always suspected, what fits on a bumper sticker does not make good policy. Sigh. Why would anyone sacrafice their own reality and truth to this man?
October 25th, 2006 at 6:33 amSung to the Great Pretender.
The Great Decider
Oh-oh yes, I’m the great Decider
Deciding who lives or who dies.
My mind’s out of touch - I flip flop way too much
I’m shameful - my life full of lies.
Oh-oh yes, I’m te great Decider
Adrift in my world full of slime.
I’ve played the game - but I can’t explain
how lying to you’s not a crime
Too real is this feeling That I’ve been caught
My clothes are all gone, my whole term comes to naught
Oh-oh yes, I’m the great Decider
Deciding’s hard work for a clown.
Deciding you see, made a fool out of me
I’m wearing my ass for a crown………..
Deciding can sure drag you down.
Pete
October 25th, 2006 at 7:04 amRead my lips. Stay the course.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:47 amPasting feathers. Hoping for a duck.
As I understand it, God spoke THROUGH a burning bush.
Hmmmm.
Squirt it on. Light him up.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:52 amthese losers are flip flopping like fish outa water, pathetic.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:33 amWould it be too much to ask that they play the W soundbite, “we’ve never been stay the course,” and then ask Rummy to comment. I mean you can say that W took a shit in the laundry room and Rummy can deny it but if you have a videoclip of W shitting in the laundryroom, the denial becomes more entertaining.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:39 amOh, MA, did I offend you and heir rummy you’re bestest friend after bush?…. Well, so sad, to bad…Get over it ,or not. No one here care’s…..I forgot for a moment you and them are in lock step…No matter…..You and I are unimportant as you’re honey rummy would be if it was not for all the lives he has distroyed with his war monging, but then you know that, even thought you won’t admit it…..So take you’re little messages to rummy, cause they don’t matter to me at all…..In other word’s stuff it big guy…
October 25th, 2006 at 9:09 amIt’s come that there are SO MANY LIES spinning around this administration it’s hard to keep track. At the very least a daily briefing of the “Lies of the Day” should be circulated to keep everyone on the same page.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:29 amIf they would only communicate with email (which apparenlty the President doesn’t use), then they’d all get the daily talking points memo at the same time & they could better coordinate their fabrications.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:48 amTalk about your “mexed missages”.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:03 amTalk about your “mexed missages”!!!!!
October 25th, 2006 at 10:05 ami don’t speak german so i don’t undrstand a thing bush, cheney, rumsfeld, hannity, limbaugh, et al are saying!
October 25th, 2006 at 10:08 amCourse! What course. I think Rummsfeld should be asked what is the frequency.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:15 amObviously Reichmarshall Rummy didn’t get the memo. What a tool.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:43 amWhy doesn’t the media get it? The truth is “Stay the course” and “Cut and run” have always been slogans. Slogans, nothing more. Slogans designed to confound critics. And they worked, as catch phrases. Now they’re starting to work, against the Republicans who used it. Bush and Rumsfeld and Cheney have finally decided they need to change what they’re doing, so “Stay the course” and its parallel “Cut and run” aren’t applicable any more. They want to lower the troop level and set a timetable, only they can’t admit it because good people like Murtha and the independent generals wanted this objective all along. Bush & Co. cannot admit they were wrong, because to do so would mean it was a stupid war, and needless people died. So you get the mixed messages until Rove can come up with something else that makes a good new slogan. Got it?
October 25th, 2006 at 10:43 amLets see. The message is “Bush has never been ’stay the course’” and Bush is “not backing away from staying the course.†Got it.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:03 amBlack is white, but only when it’s red. Up is down, the GOP is going to win the elections, and we’re winning in Iraq. Got it.
Has anyone seen Bush’s tinfoil hat anywhere? I think he’s in need of it.
Of course Dear Leader is staying the course. Except when He isn’t. You are getting Sleepy Whatever Dear Leader said was correct. Very Sleepy Democrats are all about the cut ‘n run. Your Eye-lids are heavy We’ve always said stay the course…except when we didn’t. When I snap my fingers you will Vote for us or DIE!
October 25th, 2006 at 11:32 amGOP — Giving new meaning to the term “Flip Flop”
By the way, how are you defining “Stay”…because for Bush, “Stay” means “Change, but not really change…but CHANGE.”
October 25th, 2006 at 11:56 amSomebody better send Rummy a snowflake…
October 25th, 2006 at 12:10 pmthey are all a bunch of lieing bastards and every person that voted these evil bastards into office again should be physically forced to go serve in Iraq.
THEY HAVE RUINED THIS COUNTRY AND ARE NOW DISTROYING THE BILL OF RIGHTS AND CONSTITUTION!!!
October 25th, 2006 at 12:18 pmWhat war? The gas price war across the street from WallyWorld ? I think we should all hop in our Intifadas or Escapades and go shopping, then engage in anonymous, unprotected sex with people of questionable sobriery. Happy days are here again ! The medication is working !
October 25th, 2006 at 12:59 pmWar? What war? That mission was accomplished ages ago! Let’s hop in our Intifadas and Escapades, hit the pump for cheap gas, go shoppiing with our pre-approved credit cards, then engage in unprotected, anonymous sex with people of questionable sobriety ! Happy days are here again! The medication is working!
October 25th, 2006 at 1:03 pmI’m getting confused, I think I’d better adjust the dosage.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:09 pmBush, Cheney and Rumsfeld should have read the books by Caro on Lyndon Johnson. Johnson concluded that the US would win in Vietnam because he Lyndon Johnson had the biggest cojones on earth. Cheney Rumsfeld and Bush have concluded likewise with Iraq. The problem is that Johnson had bigger cojones that the current troiqa and Vietnam was a defeat. Clearly there is a problem with the deduction. The cojones best have some connection to the brain.
October 25th, 2006 at 3:10 pmthese lying neocon pukes sicken me. You know, maybe it’s just the pressure of the impending elections that has Rummy so shaken. I’d be off my game, too, if the only things separating me from a lifetime in the penitentiary - for looting the US treasury, lying under oath to congress, doctoring military intelligence to mislead a nation and a level of incompetence bordering on treason -were a handful of house and senate seats occupied by fat republican asses…temporarily occupied…very temporarily.
October 25th, 2006 at 4:14 pm[…] On Sunday, President Bush told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos that his Iraq policy has “never been stay the course.†(Today, Rumsfeld disagreed, calling suggestions they were backing away from the phrase “nonsense.â€) […]
October 25th, 2006 at 4:34 pmThe story is as old as civilization. Evil is fought. Evil is
October 25th, 2006 at 4:49 pmEvil so any steps necessarys are justified. Lies, reliance on dreams, denial of reality, character assisanation, the waste of life, waste of horrendous sums of money. Who knows what Bush talks to Laura about but most likely tells Laura ‘I must spread American values. American must be the beacon’. Bush is publicly a moral cretin but most likley a decent father and husband. Bush is on a neo-con morality mountain peak compared to thoise Bush assocaties with. . The same goes for Cheney and Rumsfeld. A lot of neo-cons are both publicly and privately immoral. Black humor is well served by the pretensions to morality that the neo-cons have.
[…] The military wants out of Iraq … the Iraqi’s want us out of Iraq … the American people want out of Iraq. Hell — even Bush boy Richard Armitage wants out of Iraq. And Dubby? Dubby will adjust for benchmarks — which is the new way of saying we’ll stand down when they stand up and meanwhile we’ll continue to build our state-of-the-art new bases. Still stuck in the old groove, Rummy and Holy Joe think “staying the course” is still a dandy deal. […]
October 25th, 2006 at 5:05 pmThey are arguing among themselves over the meaning of their slogans. These morons have got nothing. No good plan, no good ideas - nothing.
October 26th, 2006 at 10:24 amAmerica’s founders knew all too well how war appeals to the vanity of rulers and their thirst for glory. That’s why they took care to deny presidents the kingly privilege of making war at their own discretion.
But after 9/11 President Bush, with obvious relish, declared himself a “war president.” And he kept the nation focused on martial matters by morphing the pursuit of Al Qaeda into a war against Saddam Hussein.
In November 2002, Helen Thomas, the veteran White House correspondent, told an audience, “I have never covered a president who actually wanted to go to war” - but she made it clear that Mr. Bush was the exception. And she was right.
October 26th, 2006 at 11:51 amA course is a course, of course, of course. Where’s Wilbur when we need him?
October 26th, 2006 at 1:05 pm