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		<title>By: Golden Tongue &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I just wanted to point this out.</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-4/#comment-1456240</link>
		<dc:creator>Golden Tongue &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I just wanted to point this out.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If I were Bush, I would keep that shit on the down low. You wouldn&#8217;t want people putting the pieces together and actually figuring out you&#8217;re talking out of both sides of your mouth would you? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If I were Bush, I would keep that shit on the down low. You wouldn&#8217;t want people putting the pieces together and actually figuring out you&#8217;re talking out of both sides of your mouth would you? [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1456240', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jn</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-4/#comment-1084876</link>
		<dc:creator>jn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 04:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why in 2000 I said vote for Gore... but America didn&#039;t listen.
Think about what a better situation we&#039;d be in if they had listened!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why in 2000 I said vote for Gore&#8230; but America didn&#8217;t listen.<br />
Think about what a better situation we&#8217;d be in if they had listened!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1084876', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kevin willick</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-4/#comment-1042441</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin willick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BUllSHit........you can plainly see theres a lot of &quot;BUSH&quot; in &quot;bullshit&quot;!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BUllSHit&#8230;&#8230;..you can plainly see theres a lot of &#8220;BUSH&#8221; in &#8220;bullshit&#8221;!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1042441', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kevin willick</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-4/#comment-1042440</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin willick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 07:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BUllSHit........you can plainly see theres a lot of &quot;BUSH&quot; in &quot;bullshit&quot;!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BUllSHit&#8230;&#8230;..you can plainly see theres a lot of &#8220;BUSH&#8221; in &#8220;bullshit&#8221;!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1042440', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Inoperative at politburo diktat 2.0</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-4/#comment-1040908</link>
		<dc:creator>Inoperative at politburo diktat 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Think Progress Â» Snow Falsely Claims Bush Said â€˜Stay The Courseâ€™ Only 8 Times (Actually, Itâ€™s At Least 30)  SNOW: This a great story, because we went back and looked today and could only find eight times where he ever used the phrase stay the course. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Think Progress Â» Snow Falsely Claims Bush Said â€˜Stay The Courseâ€™ Only 8 Times (Actually, Itâ€™s At Least 30)  SNOW: This a great story, because we went back and looked today and could only find eight times where he ever used the phrase stay the course. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1040908', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: NoWMDs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-4/#comment-1040900</link>
		<dc:creator>NoWMDs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Bush asserts that we will &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://home.comcast.net/~judgeinfo/stay_the_course.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stay the course&lt;/a&gt;&quot; at least 52 times since 2003.

I can&#039;t believe that President Bush can say with a straight face, &quot;we&#039;ve never been stay the course&quot;. [10/22/06 ABC&#039;s &lt;em&gt;This Week&lt;/em&gt; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/22/bush-stay-the-course/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Video&lt;/a&gt;]

Keith Olbermann documented 29 times, others have found more. I was able to document over 100 times that Bush and his officials used the phrase &quot;stay the course&quot;. President Bush himself has used the phrase at least 52 times. &lt;a href=&quot;http://home.comcast.net/~judgeinfo/stay_the_course.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Documented here&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nowmds.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.NoWMDs.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Bush asserts that we will &#8220;<a href="http://home.comcast.net/~judgeinfo/stay_the_course.htm" rel="nofollow">stay the course</a>&#8221; at least 52 times since 2003.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe that President Bush can say with a straight face, &#8220;we&#8217;ve never been stay the course&#8221;. [10/22/06 ABC's <em>This Week</em> - <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/22/bush-stay-the-course/" rel="nofollow">Video</a>]</p>
<p>Keith Olbermann documented 29 times, others have found more. I was able to document over 100 times that Bush and his officials used the phrase &#8220;stay the course&#8221;. President Bush himself has used the phrase at least 52 times. <a href="http://home.comcast.net/~judgeinfo/stay_the_course.htm" rel="nofollow">Documented here</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nowmds.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.NoWMDs.com</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1040900', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: &#187; By the Numbers</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-4/#comment-1040687</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; By the Numbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 8 - The number of times White House Press Secretary Tony Snow claims President Bush said &#8220;stay the course&#8221; since the catch phrase&#8217;s inception. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 8 &#8211; The number of times White House Press Secretary Tony Snow claims President Bush said &#8220;stay the course&#8221; since the catch phrase&#8217;s inception. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1040687', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: adennak.com - ph33r and loathing &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stay The Course</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-4/#comment-1039890</link>
		<dc:creator>adennak.com - ph33r and loathing &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stay The Course</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So, George Bush wants you to know that he isn&#8217;t a Stay The Course kind of guy. He&#8217;s been saying lately that he either never said Stay The Course, or he only said it a few times, and that either way, it was never part of the strategy in Iraq. In fact, White House Press Secretary (and former Fox News correspondant) Tony Snow said that they went back and could only find eight examples of Bush ever using the phrase Stay The Course. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So, George Bush wants you to know that he isn&#8217;t a Stay The Course kind of guy. He&#8217;s been saying lately that he either never said Stay The Course, or he only said it a few times, and that either way, it was never part of the strategy in Iraq. In fact, White House Press Secretary (and former Fox News correspondant) Tony Snow said that they went back and could only find eight examples of Bush ever using the phrase Stay The Course. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1039890', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sirk</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-4/#comment-1033103</link>
		<dc:creator>sirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t matter if you said something 5 times in a day or a year.  If you deny you said it, you are a liar.  But we all knew that, didn&#039;t we...

The funny part is that having Snow say that Bush didn&#039;t say &quot;stay the course,&quot; Bush can deny he ever said he didnt&#039; say it.  

You know, known knowns, known unknowns, and unknown unknowns!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter if you said something 5 times in a day or a year.  If you deny you said it, you are a liar.  But we all knew that, didn&#8217;t we&#8230;</p>
<p>The funny part is that having Snow say that Bush didn&#8217;t say &#8220;stay the course,&#8221; Bush can deny he ever said he didnt&#8217; say it.  </p>
<p>You know, known knowns, known unknowns, and unknown unknowns!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1033103', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-4/#comment-1031703</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne A. Schneider, you are so full of sh?? your eyes are brown.
 Why don&#039;t you stay on your own stinking blog and rant your lies to someone else?
 You are probably one of those GOPervert plants anyway.
 Your blog sure sounds like you are.
 Cutting down Christans and talking up the perverts.
 How in the world can you lie and say that Bush&#039;s lies are a mistake of someone Else&#039;s.
 Stay home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne A. Schneider, you are so full of sh?? your eyes are brown.<br />
 Why don&#8217;t you stay on your own stinking blog and rant your lies to someone else?<br />
 You are probably one of those GOPervert plants anyway.<br />
 Your blog sure sounds like you are.<br />
 Cutting down Christans and talking up the perverts.<br />
 How in the world can you lie and say that Bush&#8217;s lies are a mistake of someone Else&#8217;s.<br />
 Stay home.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1031703', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: davius</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-4/#comment-1031603</link>
		<dc:creator>davius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 04:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You all don&#039;t get it.  They are lying.  They know they are lying.  They then go home, and get off that they blatantly lied to you, and you cant do a damn thing about it.  Why else would this criminal administration be able to continue its ways?  Because all you did was type on the internet about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You all don&#8217;t get it.  They are lying.  They know they are lying.  They then go home, and get off that they blatantly lied to you, and you cant do a damn thing about it.  Why else would this criminal administration be able to continue its ways?  Because all you did was type on the internet about it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1031603', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Herman</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-3/#comment-1031232</link>
		<dc:creator>Herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony Snow himself has used the phrase, &quot;stay the course,&quot; at least a couple of times in describing Bush policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony Snow himself has used the phrase, &#8220;stay the course,&#8221; at least a couple of times in describing Bush policy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1031232', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Herman</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-3/#comment-1030510</link>
		<dc:creator>Herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;One damn lie leads to another.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>One damn lie leads to another.</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1030510', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: null-ified</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-3/#comment-1030268</link>
		<dc:creator>null-ified</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conscious+U.S.+Citizen+of+the+World 

Eloquently and passionately put. Clearly a real patriot, not just a flag waver.
Not being American there are a whole host of issues that here in Britain we dont get to hear of. When I first heard rumours about 9/11 being an inside job (obviously not learned through mainstream) I felt compelled to keep reading on the subject until I filtered out the fluff and bull. The conclusion I came to was the same as millions of others. The trade center was brought down by contolled demolition and possibly in conjunction with other less conventional means of demolition/destruction. The former I think is widely accepted, but the latter is something that is sitting in plain view and Im amazed so few people see it. That is that an unconventional or unknown weapon helped to pulverise the trade centers and pretty much turn them to dust. The overwhelming lack of debris at ground zero points to something very fishy. Why did the top section of the trade center that tilted before falling turn to dust. When buildings fall in earthquakes and such, they leave behind slabs and slabs of concrete, huge pieces of steel. Also the rescue team found very few bodies, very little office furniture. Almost seems as though everything in those towers was vaporized. But I guess thats crazy talk. Well I implore anyone thinking that to aquire the footage CNN ABC and Fox aired of the very last piece of the towers to fall. It is steel construction material, almost spire like. I&#039;m unsure of the size but comparing it to the buildings in the area it looks well over 50ft tall. As the tower hits the ground this massive piece that is still standing wavers side to side for a few seconds and gives way, as this 50ft piece of iron construction material falls it turns to dust in mid air. It is astounding and is a head scratcher to say the least.
See for yourself. The quicktime link is the best way to view as you can scrub back and frwd in the timeline and scratch your head with your other hand.
http://thewebfairy.com/911/glow/glow.mov</description>
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<p>Eloquently and passionately put. Clearly a real patriot, not just a flag waver.<br />
Not being American there are a whole host of issues that here in Britain we dont get to hear of. When I first heard rumours about 9/11 being an inside job (obviously not learned through mainstream) I felt compelled to keep reading on the subject until I filtered out the fluff and bull. The conclusion I came to was the same as millions of others. The trade center was brought down by contolled demolition and possibly in conjunction with other less conventional means of demolition/destruction. The former I think is widely accepted, but the latter is something that is sitting in plain view and Im amazed so few people see it. That is that an unconventional or unknown weapon helped to pulverise the trade centers and pretty much turn them to dust. The overwhelming lack of debris at ground zero points to something very fishy. Why did the top section of the trade center that tilted before falling turn to dust. When buildings fall in earthquakes and such, they leave behind slabs and slabs of concrete, huge pieces of steel. Also the rescue team found very few bodies, very little office furniture. Almost seems as though everything in those towers was vaporized. But I guess thats crazy talk. Well I implore anyone thinking that to aquire the footage CNN ABC and Fox aired of the very last piece of the towers to fall. It is steel construction material, almost spire like. I&#8217;m unsure of the size but comparing it to the buildings in the area it looks well over 50ft tall. As the tower hits the ground this massive piece that is still standing wavers side to side for a few seconds and gives way, as this 50ft piece of iron construction material falls it turns to dust in mid air. It is astounding and is a head scratcher to say the least.<br />
See for yourself. The quicktime link is the best way to view as you can scrub back and frwd in the timeline and scratch your head with your other hand.<br />
<a href="http://thewebfairy.com/911/glow/glow.mov" rel="nofollow">http://thewebfairy.com/911/glow/glow.mov</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1030268', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Snow Falsely Claims Bush Said â€˜Stay The Courseâ€™ Only 8 Times (Actually, Itâ€™s At Least 30) at FreedomFight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snow Falsely Claims Bush Said â€˜Stay The Courseâ€™ Only 8 Times (Actually, Itâ€™s At Least 30) at FreedomFight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Conscious+U.S.+Citizen+of+the+World</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-3/#comment-1029984</link>
		<dc:creator>Conscious+U.S.+Citizen+of+the+World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is it all going?  Where are we headed?  Each day itâ€™s looking a little scarier for all of us!  Middle class disappearing, pension reformâ€”meaning guess what, no more pensionâ€”it was all smoke and mirrors, layoffs &amp; offshoring of jobs so CEOs can further line their pockets from cost savings, rising health care costs/insurance, horrible public education (necessitating home schooling or private schools), etc., etc.  Do we really believe all of the government statistics published in the news about improving job market, lower budget deficit, etc.?  Then why was I working seven days a week on salary, and so is my spouse, and neither one of us have seen any more money in the last three to four years?  In fact, I was earning less than I made in 2001!  Everything is costing Americans more and little is being given back.  Taxes are outrageous!  Fearmongering and taking away our rights to â€œprotect usâ€ from the so-called â€œterroristsâ€ is only doing us an injustice.  No one is immune unless you are independently wealthy and continuing to grow wealthier.  Just on Monday, the AFL-CIO filed a petition with the UN on new rules under federal labor law that are said to demonstrate how far outside of the mainstream of accepted international law the U.S. is headed.  Iâ€™m not in a union, myself.  In fact, I just left an above-average paying job on Wall Street, but I sure support people who are in unions because at least some people are still fighting for fair treatment and at some point we may have more white-collar unions other than the publishing industry and others that I may not be aware of.  My father just lost his pension after 30 years with his company because of corrupt mismanagement by a CEO who walked away with a significant golden parachute.  At least his union is trying to claw back some of that loss for the workers.  Donâ€™t get me started on Enron..I followed energy as an equity analyst and Arthur Anderson and the bankers did a pretty good job of pulling the wool over our eyes.  Over $2 billion of pensions and $60 billion in market share were lost just like that.  People who worked hard and saved for the â€œAmerican Dreamâ€ are now living in poverty.  Jeff Skilling walks away with a mere 24 years (what hubris! â€“the guy called a client an â€œassholeâ€ for asking a tough question about the company on one of the conference calls that I was on in 2001).  Kenneth â€œKenny Boyâ€ Lay, although supposedly deceased and cremated, has just had his charges dismissed by a judge (under a new ruling established in 2004).  See www.stargazette.com Oct. 22 story on â€œKenneth Lay Alive? Maybeâ€  Who says money canâ€™t buy freedom?  Welcome to America!

Please send comments or feedback to interestedinurhonestview@yahoo.com
Sorry for the bashing â€œmighty + aphrodite,â€ but please do your homework, America needs all the support she can get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is it all going?  Where are we headed?  Each day itâ€™s looking a little scarier for all of us!  Middle class disappearing, pension reformâ€”meaning guess what, no more pensionâ€”it was all smoke and mirrors, layoffs &amp; offshoring of jobs so CEOs can further line their pockets from cost savings, rising health care costs/insurance, horrible public education (necessitating home schooling or private schools), etc., etc.  Do we really believe all of the government statistics published in the news about improving job market, lower budget deficit, etc.?  Then why was I working seven days a week on salary, and so is my spouse, and neither one of us have seen any more money in the last three to four years?  In fact, I was earning less than I made in 2001!  Everything is costing Americans more and little is being given back.  Taxes are outrageous!  Fearmongering and taking away our rights to â€œprotect usâ€ from the so-called â€œterroristsâ€ is only doing us an injustice.  No one is immune unless you are independently wealthy and continuing to grow wealthier.  Just on Monday, the AFL-CIO filed a petition with the UN on new rules under federal labor law that are said to demonstrate how far outside of the mainstream of accepted international law the U.S. is headed.  Iâ€™m not in a union, myself.  In fact, I just left an above-average paying job on Wall Street, but I sure support people who are in unions because at least some people are still fighting for fair treatment and at some point we may have more white-collar unions other than the publishing industry and others that I may not be aware of.  My father just lost his pension after 30 years with his company because of corrupt mismanagement by a CEO who walked away with a significant golden parachute.  At least his union is trying to claw back some of that loss for the workers.  Donâ€™t get me started on Enron..I followed energy as an equity analyst and Arthur Anderson and the bankers did a pretty good job of pulling the wool over our eyes.  Over $2 billion of pensions and $60 billion in market share were lost just like that.  People who worked hard and saved for the â€œAmerican Dreamâ€ are now living in poverty.  Jeff Skilling walks away with a mere 24 years (what hubris! â€“the guy called a client an â€œassholeâ€ for asking a tough question about the company on one of the conference calls that I was on in 2001).  Kenneth â€œKenny Boyâ€ Lay, although supposedly deceased and cremated, has just had his charges dismissed by a judge (under a new ruling established in 2004).  See <a href="http://www.stargazette.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.stargazette.com</a> Oct. 22 story on â€œKenneth Lay Alive? Maybeâ€  Who says money canâ€™t buy freedom?  Welcome to America!</p>
<p>Please send comments or feedback to <a href="mailto:interestedinurhonestview@yahoo.com">interestedinurhonestview@yahoo.com</a><br />
Sorry for the bashing â€œmighty + aphrodite,â€ but please do your homework, America needs all the support she can get.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1029984', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Conscious+U.S.+Citizen+of+the+World</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-3/#comment-1029964</link>
		<dc:creator>Conscious+U.S.+Citizen+of+the+World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It reminds me of the joke that was passed around (now Iâ€™m not so sure that it was really a joke) â€“ it was a laundry list of numbers of people who fall into different crime categories like extortion, grand larceny, assault, etc., and asked â€œwhat does this list represent?â€  The answer â€“ â€œyour U.S. Congress.â€

If more people would just get their heads out of their behinds and start doing something useful by taking a sharper look at key topics forming the big picture that are simply â€œglossed overâ€ by MSM and particularly those things that are completely disregarded by the mainstream newsreel (see Amy Goodmanâ€™s new book, â€œStaticâ€), U.S. citizens would be in a much better position to take back our country.  The two-party system has failed us greatly â€“ weâ€™ll see what the Dems can do to take out many of the incumbents.  We have the advantage now of the power of the Internet.  Remember how knowledge of google and craigslist spread just by word of mouth.  We have to get more people to take a look at whatâ€™s out there to be learned, and not from MSM, but by starting with things like www.whatreallyhappened.com and www.radicalleft.net.  There are so many more great blogs to read and you begin to ask more questions and analyze, seeking truth.  Things have already progressed way out of control â€“ each day I read the newspaper â€“ even the MSM paints a partial picture of this disaster that unruly capitalism is creating by promoting monsterous insatiable greed.  For example, the 2006 Military Commissions Act that was passed just last weekâ€“ no more habeas corpus! Hello America!  What does this really mean in terms of our Constitutional rights---duh!?!?!  This was blatant, right out in the open â€“right under our noses!  And what is Congress doing!?!?!?!   There were some who challenged it and tried to amend this new punitive legislation, but failed (see Wikipedia).  I loved Keith Olbermannâ€™s performance on MSNBC (see YouTube).  Even if you donâ€™t tune in to Amy Goodman on Democracy Now!, you still should have gotten some clue from Olbermann that this cannot be a good thingâ€“even for the average American. How foggy can some people be??? Listen up â€œmightly+ aphrodite, donâ€™t want to pick on you, but you may not think it matters now, but when there is something that really does affect you and your right to speak out and protest is then taken away and you or your family is thrown into a jail cell and the key tossed away and you are now without rights to an attorney and to be tried in a court of law for something that you didnâ€™t do or for your beliefs or point of view, then maybe you will start to care.  And whatâ€™s with all of those signing statements, George?!?!?!?  What a disgrace this administration has been to this country!!!  My friends from Iran are starting to see a pattern forming here.  They left their country in a diaspora for a new home (after we meddled in their government over at least the last half-century so that they did not have any hope for a real democracy).  They came to a country that â€œsupposedlyâ€ guarantees freedom &amp; justice (i.e. â€œlife, liberty and the pursuit of happinessâ€) to its citizens under the founding principles of our democracy as laid out in the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It reminds me of the joke that was passed around (now Iâ€™m not so sure that it was really a joke) â€“ it was a laundry list of numbers of people who fall into different crime categories like extortion, grand larceny, assault, etc., and asked â€œwhat does this list represent?â€  The answer â€“ â€œyour U.S. Congress.â€</p>
<p>If more people would just get their heads out of their behinds and start doing something useful by taking a sharper look at key topics forming the big picture that are simply â€œglossed overâ€ by MSM and particularly those things that are completely disregarded by the mainstream newsreel (see Amy Goodmanâ€™s new book, â€œStaticâ€), U.S. citizens would be in a much better position to take back our country.  The two-party system has failed us greatly â€“ weâ€™ll see what the Dems can do to take out many of the incumbents.  We have the advantage now of the power of the Internet.  Remember how knowledge of google and craigslist spread just by word of mouth.  We have to get more people to take a look at whatâ€™s out there to be learned, and not from MSM, but by starting with things like <a href="http://www.whatreallyhappened.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatreallyhappened.com</a> and <a href="http://www.radicalleft.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.radicalleft.net</a>.  There are so many more great blogs to read and you begin to ask more questions and analyze, seeking truth.  Things have already progressed way out of control â€“ each day I read the newspaper â€“ even the MSM paints a partial picture of this disaster that unruly capitalism is creating by promoting monsterous insatiable greed.  For example, the 2006 Military Commissions Act that was passed just last weekâ€“ no more habeas corpus! Hello America!  What does this really mean in terms of our Constitutional rights&#8212;duh!?!?!  This was blatant, right out in the open â€“right under our noses!  And what is Congress doing!?!?!?!   There were some who challenged it and tried to amend this new punitive legislation, but failed (see Wikipedia).  I loved Keith Olbermannâ€™s performance on MSNBC (see YouTube).  Even if you donâ€™t tune in to Amy Goodman on Democracy Now!, you still should have gotten some clue from Olbermann that this cannot be a good thingâ€“even for the average American. How foggy can some people be??? Listen up â€œmightly+ aphrodite, donâ€™t want to pick on you, but you may not think it matters now, but when there is something that really does affect you and your right to speak out and protest is then taken away and you or your family is thrown into a jail cell and the key tossed away and you are now without rights to an attorney and to be tried in a court of law for something that you didnâ€™t do or for your beliefs or point of view, then maybe you will start to care.  And whatâ€™s with all of those signing statements, George?!?!?!?  What a disgrace this administration has been to this country!!!  My friends from Iran are starting to see a pattern forming here.  They left their country in a diaspora for a new home (after we meddled in their government over at least the last half-century so that they did not have any hope for a real democracy).  They came to a country that â€œsupposedlyâ€ guarantees freedom &amp; justice (i.e. â€œlife, liberty and the pursuit of happinessâ€) to its citizens under the founding principles of our democracy as laid out in the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1029964', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Conscious U.S. Citizen of the World</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-3/#comment-1029958</link>
		<dc:creator>Conscious U.S. Citizen of the World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo to everyone commenting on this site!!!  Although, I have to admit that the comment from â€œmighty + aphroditeâ€ (comment #58) completely lost me. Iâ€™m happy to see more Americans waking up --glad to hear that people are changing political party loyalties-- my family has always voted Republican -- not in 2004 and not anymore!!!  Hopefully the Dems can turn things around, but I think thatâ€™s probably too much to hope for.  I apologize ahead of time if Iâ€™m preaching to the choir with these comments.  As long as Government is in bed with Corporate America, and Mainstream Media/MSM (and AIPAIC) is in bed with the Government, Iâ€™m afraid it&#039;s going to take a lot more effort to turn this country around.  In a recent conversation with a doctor who was one of the first responders to the WTC tragedy on 9/11 â€“ in talking about what has happened to this countryâ€”he said that his wife who is French could not believe that Americans are so blind to what is going on, claiming that if this was happening in her country, masses of people would be in the streets protesting.  We have groups protesting â€“ like- The World Canâ€™t Wait  and United for Peace and Justiceâ€“ but they donâ€™t seem to be nearly massive enough.  If you travel the country, and talk to people, there are pockets of folks who seem to have a clue, and then there are those who are completely lost in space.  The kind of corruption we are seeing played out in this country right now has been going on for a long time â€“it doesnâ€™t take a rocket scientist nor serious research to find evidence of it.  Itâ€™s there if you look for it â€“ especially with Internet access â€“ why do you think Big Bro is now trying to place further control over our Internet and seems to be engaging AT&amp;T in an effort to do just that.

The U.S., Britain and Israel have a long track record of hubris, itâ€™s just gotten to be a whole lot more obvious as their wealth and power has grown (Is not pride suppose to be the most deadly of sins?) and their record of instigating terrorism (i.e. killing their own people) to aggressively direct foreign policy to meet an agenda of global hegemony is becoming even more obvious to many people.  See Naeim Giladiâ€™s â€œThe Jews of Iraqâ€ and Victor Ostrovskyâ€™s â€œBy Way of Deceptionâ€ (both of these guys had to go to a lot of trouble to get their books published) â€“this is just a small taste of this kind of deadly corruption that our current administration has on parade now for all to see.  Take note â€œmighty + aphrodite.â€  When will the rest of America wake up and look beyond the anesthetizing mainstream media to put the puzzle together and realize that people of moral conscience need to take a stand while we still can.  How do we still have those naively asking, â€œWhy does the rest of the world have no respect for (or hate) us?â€  Well when you try to destroy other peopleâ€™s lives for your own selfish greed----Duh!?!?!?!  More Americans need to be reading/researching/investigating on their own or in groups â€“not be so blinded/gullible as to think that our fearless leaders who lead us into fear love us like we are their children â€“ theyâ€™re all out just to make a buck at anyone elseâ€™s expense as long as they donâ€™t get caught.  Members of Congress from both parties are so complicit in their duplicity that it wonâ€™t matter too much who is elected unless these new representatives have some sense of morals.

TBC...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo to everyone commenting on this site!!!  Although, I have to admit that the comment from â€œmighty + aphroditeâ€ (comment #58) completely lost me. Iâ€™m happy to see more Americans waking up &#8211;glad to hear that people are changing political party loyalties&#8211; my family has always voted Republican &#8212; not in 2004 and not anymore!!!  Hopefully the Dems can turn things around, but I think thatâ€™s probably too much to hope for.  I apologize ahead of time if Iâ€™m preaching to the choir with these comments.  As long as Government is in bed with Corporate America, and Mainstream Media/MSM (and AIPAIC) is in bed with the Government, Iâ€™m afraid it&#8217;s going to take a lot more effort to turn this country around.  In a recent conversation with a doctor who was one of the first responders to the WTC tragedy on 9/11 â€“ in talking about what has happened to this countryâ€”he said that his wife who is French could not believe that Americans are so blind to what is going on, claiming that if this was happening in her country, masses of people would be in the streets protesting.  We have groups protesting â€“ like- The World Canâ€™t Wait  and United for Peace and Justiceâ€“ but they donâ€™t seem to be nearly massive enough.  If you travel the country, and talk to people, there are pockets of folks who seem to have a clue, and then there are those who are completely lost in space.  The kind of corruption we are seeing played out in this country right now has been going on for a long time â€“it doesnâ€™t take a rocket scientist nor serious research to find evidence of it.  Itâ€™s there if you look for it â€“ especially with Internet access â€“ why do you think Big Bro is now trying to place further control over our Internet and seems to be engaging AT&amp;T in an effort to do just that.</p>
<p>The U.S., Britain and Israel have a long track record of hubris, itâ€™s just gotten to be a whole lot more obvious as their wealth and power has grown (Is not pride suppose to be the most deadly of sins?) and their record of instigating terrorism (i.e. killing their own people) to aggressively direct foreign policy to meet an agenda of global hegemony is becoming even more obvious to many people.  See Naeim Giladiâ€™s â€œThe Jews of Iraqâ€ and Victor Ostrovskyâ€™s â€œBy Way of Deceptionâ€ (both of these guys had to go to a lot of trouble to get their books published) â€“this is just a small taste of this kind of deadly corruption that our current administration has on parade now for all to see.  Take note â€œmighty + aphrodite.â€  When will the rest of America wake up and look beyond the anesthetizing mainstream media to put the puzzle together and realize that people of moral conscience need to take a stand while we still can.  How do we still have those naively asking, â€œWhy does the rest of the world have no respect for (or hate) us?â€  Well when you try to destroy other peopleâ€™s lives for your own selfish greed&#8212;-Duh!?!?!?!  More Americans need to be reading/researching/investigating on their own or in groups â€“not be so blinded/gullible as to think that our fearless leaders who lead us into fear love us like we are their children â€“ theyâ€™re all out just to make a buck at anyone elseâ€™s expense as long as they donâ€™t get caught.  Members of Congress from both parties are so complicit in their duplicity that it wonâ€™t matter too much who is elected unless these new representatives have some sense of morals.</p>
<p>TBC&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1029958', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: null-ified</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/snow-stay-the-course/comment-page-3/#comment-1029838</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More skewing of the facts, aka bold face lying. I&#039;m not American, but I realise a large majority of US citizens have finally woken up from their slumber. Pretty much most of Europe realised Bush was a treachorous little squinty eyed nazi that would lie his a55 off and would sacrifice anybody (except his corporate buddies)to further the new world orders grip on global economics. These ba5tards would chip and tag you at birth if they could get away with it, and who knows! Still, a lot of EU citizens were amazed when the fuhrer got re-elected. I dont think many of us really believe the most blatant bare faced, evil, lying and murderous government in the history of the USA will ever be brought to book. Shame, it would be a major boost for the average concienscious person the world over but the effect for America could be huge. Of course that will never happen. If these cronies ever get investigated it will be by their own government buddies.
 America needs to find a way soon before their is no constitution or bill of rights. This government has sold out America, and the media silence is deafening. Maybe the media will wake up and get out of the governments soiled bed, but I doubt it. History will show this time in Americas history as despicable and shameful for a 1001 reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More skewing of the facts, aka bold face lying. I&#8217;m not American, but I realise a large majority of US citizens have finally woken up from their slumber. Pretty much most of Europe realised Bush was a treachorous little squinty eyed nazi that would lie his a55 off and would sacrifice anybody (except his corporate buddies)to further the new world orders grip on global economics. These ba5tards would chip and tag you at birth if they could get away with it, and who knows! Still, a lot of EU citizens were amazed when the fuhrer got re-elected. I dont think many of us really believe the most blatant bare faced, evil, lying and murderous government in the history of the USA will ever be brought to book. Shame, it would be a major boost for the average concienscious person the world over but the effect for America could be huge. Of course that will never happen. If these cronies ever get investigated it will be by their own government buddies.<br />
 America needs to find a way soon before their is no constitution or bill of rights. This government has sold out America, and the media silence is deafening. Maybe the media will wake up and get out of the governments soiled bed, but I doubt it. History will show this time in Americas history as despicable and shameful for a 1001 reasons.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1029838', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: faird</title>
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		<dc:creator>faird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just keep hitting your head Tony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just keep hitting your head Tony.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1029762', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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