Chuck Norris Sets The Facts Straight: Evolution Is ‘Not Real. It Is Not The Way We Got Here’
Chuck Norris Sets The Facts Straight: Evolution Is ‘Not Real. It Is Not The Way We Got Here’
Actor and high-profile conservative Chuck Norris became an internet phenomenon last year after a website called “Chuck Norris Facts” attracted over 150 million hits. Some sample facts: “Guns don’t kill people. Chuck Norris kills people.” Another: “Chuck Norris wins Connect Four in three moves.”
Now, the right-wing website World Net Daily has given Chuck Norris a regular weekly column. In his first column, he takes on an “alleged” Chuck Norris fact:
Alleged Chuck Norris Fact: “There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chuck Norris has allowed to live.” It’s funny. It’s cute. But here’s what I really think about the theory of evolution: It’s not real. It is not the way we got here. In fact, the life you see on this planet is really just a list of creatures God has allowed to live. We are not creations of random chance. We are not accidents.
You can keep up with Chuck Norris’s columns HERE.
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Typical liberal Hollywood movie star.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:37 amI thought we weren’t supposed to pay attention to those Hollywood liberal types.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:38 amIncredible, I had no idea that Chuck Norris was a flaming nutbag, well, It was in the back of my mind whenever I watched Walker Texas Ranger, but this really puts it out there.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:40 ambruce lee would never have said something that stupid
October 25th, 2006 at 10:42 amDarwin’s theory of natural selection is not random chance, and it works just like capitalism. There is no god allowed x and y; it’s a purely scientific matter.
By the way, I heard your tears cure cancer. Too bad you never cry.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:43 amAnd how does this fit into thew Military Commissions Act and the large numbers of people who are going to vote for Republicans yet will not fight for thier country?
October 25th, 2006 at 10:44 amWait!!!!! I though Chuck Norris was God.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:46 amYes, Norris is a flaming nut bag. He speaks glowingly of violence as a solution while pretending to himself that he is a Christian.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:46 amIt’s called Natural Selection.
Whatever creatures Chuck Norris naturally chooses to shoot are made extinct.
The survivors have been selected to evolve into things like Chuck.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:48 am“really just a list of creatures God has allowed to live” … and so then where did the creatures come from? Where is the list? Where is the proof?
October 25th, 2006 at 10:50 amOh, well, if Chuck Norris says so,…. it’s probably a well thought out and reasoned declaration of “fact”.
But… I would like to know what or who taught him that millions of years of evolutionary development was “an accident?”
Well, maybe his was. Perhaps his soul was better suited for a barnyard cock.
I don’t think Mr Norris is going to be able to reincarnate as a turtle in his next step forward.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:58 amAnother religious freak . Amazing , like so many , he loves and makes a living thru violence What an arrogant stupid ass .Well set among the repugs.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:58 amClint Eastwood could crush Norris with a single squint.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:01 amChuck understands the bible as well. You liberals are a shame to biblical standards. If you don’t believe in the creation of Adam and Eve, don’t celebrate Christmas, I mean it. You’re defying God’s book.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:02 amChuck, you dummy. YOU nor I can not change the FACT of Evolution. Darwin never said their is no god, and some religious leaders say god created evolution,to justify the facts and give god credit. Now go and be a good little boy and kiss bush’s feet,because he thinks he is god.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:03 amIn time, Chuck’s writing ability might equal his acting talents.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:05 amSpeaking of Clint Eastwood - I wonder how his latest “war” movie is going to be accepted and responded to by the neocons. As I heard it described, it’s going to have some very negative parallels to the Iraq fiasco.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:06 amI own a Total Gym but think it dates from the late 1970s. Please don’t make me turn it back in!
October 25th, 2006 at 11:07 am#14 - Christmas is a midwinter pagan festival …. you do it your way, I’ll do it mine. If you believe in Adam and Eve then you need to tell us who Cane married to produce the human race - and please indicate your position on incest as you go. Keep your opinions about what I can and can’t do to yourself, St Darryl.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:10 amCreatures that god has allowed to live………hmmmm? Oh I get it!!! Chuck Norris knows everything!!
October 25th, 2006 at 11:11 amIf you don’t believe in the creation of Adam and Eve, don’t celebrate Christmas, I mean it. You’re defying God’s book.
Comment by Daryll
Who are you to tell me or anyone else what to believe, how to believe, or what to celebrate? You are making an idol out of the Bible. I mean it, too.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:16 amIf Chuck Norris said it then it must be true….
October 25th, 2006 at 11:17 am# 14 Daryll — Your God and his book can blow me!
On December 25th, I think I’ll celebrate my ability to reason and think critically.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:20 amdaryll–did you know that the Puritans banned celebrating Christmas?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:22 amterrytheturtle, the bible states, god created Adam and Eve, not humans evolved from animal species. Also, it’s a holiday celebrating Jesus’ birth, but I know you don’t believe in him because you can’t except the biblical method he used to create humans, as well as other scriptures in the bible. Why not call Dec. 25 festivus because you don’t beliee in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:22 amI think he’s angling for a role in the next ABC docu-drama.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:25 amDaryll, I hope you don’t celebrate Christmas with a Christmas tree, escpecially not one with decorations and DEFINETELY no angels on the top, because those are graven images. Your Bible, and your second commandment shun that.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:29 am#16 LawstSoul - If Norris were any more wooden as an actor, he’d be made of birch. Come to think of it, that would explain his being a blockhead
October 25th, 2006 at 11:30 amDaryll,
October 25th, 2006 at 11:31 amDo you give presents for Christmas?
Daryll better not eat a shrimp salad either. If he does, I’ll just have to come over and stone him to death–the Book of Leviticus says I can do that.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:31 amIf there was a god, there would be no religion.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:33 amDaryll – The Bible also says that when Cain was made by God to roam the Earth he ended up settling down in a city named Nod… where did all those people that populated the city of Nod come from… what day did God create them?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:33 amComment by Daryll
What exactly did the people that wrote the old testament a couple thousand years ago know about DNA? Nothing. What did the Romans who put the new testament together know about DNA? Nothing. What does Jesus have to do with the old testament? He was a Jew. The old testament and the new testament does not belong together. Jesus was speaking out against the old tribal ways… turn the other cheek was not how the old testament did things… in the old testament they killed all the men, women, and children… NOT turned the other cheek.
Christmas is NOT a holiday that has anything to do with Jesus. Why is it that most christians become adults and NEVER look up any history? Christmas was a pagan holiday that the Catholic church could not simply abolish because most of the people were still pagan at the time so they simply “renamed it” like you righties today call killing people “democracy” and the dismantlement of the Constitution and Bill of Rights “liberty” and the repeal of Habeas Corpus “clarification of what is allowed”….
October 25th, 2006 at 11:35 amWhat biblical method? Some flying fairy went ‘whoosh’ and there it was? Prove it, why don’t you? It’s your assertion, let’s have the proof.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:35 amWell said RantingTommy!
October 25th, 2006 at 11:36 amPersonally, as an Atheist 3 questions to Darryl:
Do you believe that the Moon is a light source? (Genesis)
Do you believe a human being could survive in the digestive system of a fish, for over 24 hours, without air? (Jonah)
Do you believe that a good and caring God would parch your lands, sentence your family to death and slavery and curse you with disease - just to impress the devil? (Job)
October 25th, 2006 at 11:37 amRantingTommy - bang on 100%
October 25th, 2006 at 11:37 amThe date of December 25th comes from Rome and was a celebration of the Italic god, Saturn, and the rebirth of the sun god. Oops.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:38 amBruce, miracles always fascinate me. At Lourdes they have that display of hundreds of crutches and wheelchairs that people have left behind.. ever wonder why there are no glass eyes or wooden legs?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:40 amWell, at least now I have a more logical reason to be repulsed by Norris than his ugly canine looks.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:41 amAcademics and Scientists agree; Evolution NOT True…for Republicans. They should not be allowed to benefit medically or technically by our advances in society, since they are still knuckle dragging Neanderthals.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:42 amDaryll - we’re trying to get you to understand that the Bible ISN’T fact. I understand that as long as you believe that it is fact, there is nothing anyone can say here to have you see otherwise. But understand that the only connection we have to Jesus is ONE MAN. One man who began telling the story to his small group of followers that expanded from there.
Understand that Jesus has MANY similarities to other Gods in history; born from a virgin, was killed, was magically resurrected and went to heaven…
Understand that we’re not trying to say we know how life began exactly, but that the idea that life began with Adam and Eve has been proven false. So let’s move on and see what other possibilities are out there.
Natural selection is not chance. It is about which of the creatures can survive, and the ones that do survive, how they adapt to their environment.
You probably want to hold onto the idea of there being a God because you fear the unknown. And as long as you can believe that there is someone up there controlling everything, you feel alright. Just like you feel alright when you go to Church, because someone is there controlling you. You know which songs you have to sing, which prayers you must say. You like knowing that the man at the Church is called “Father” and the nuns are called “Sister”. It’s a warm, welcoming atmosphere (except for the massive statue of your dead hero on the wall…)
But why live your life in a state of fear? Why live your life trying to prepare for the afterlife? You should live here and now! Enjoy what surrounds you on this earth right now - it can be very beautiful!
I know, I know… you can’t live here and now because now is only temporary, and the afterlife is forever. But what many here are trying to tell you is perhaps there is an alternative. Perhaps it isn’t wrong to live your life without fear, without having to go to Church and pray, and force other people to pray along with you in public schools, and force your commandments on public buildings, and go to wars with people who believe differently than you, and force woman to birth children….
Perhaps you can live the way we nonbelievers do - leading happy healthy lives, because perhaps your view of what happens after death is wrong.
I’m leaning away from religion simply because SO MUCH has been proven against it, I see no need to believe in it. And besides, if God does exist, it’s his fault for giving me a brain that can’t comprehend that he created me and my surroundings. It’s not free-will, it’s just the fact that I can NOT believe what religion has to offer me.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:43 amOne other thing–Jesus came along and tried to overthrow all the crap that people had attributed to God over the millenia. And now, here are the modern right wing Christians distorting everything Jesus said while trying to reinstate that same Pharisee/Sadducee legalistic mumbo-jumbo again.
If He came back, the right wingers would have that hippie commie peacenik Jesus nailed up even faster than they did 2000 years ago.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:44 amthe Italic god, Saturn,
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Don’t you mean…..the Italic god, Saturn
October 25th, 2006 at 11:45 amWhat is the hostility to Darwinian science all about? What does acceptance of Darwinian methods do to p*** Bible punchers off?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:46 amQuick quick, the LW should produce a cheesy video and give Rosie O Donnell, Ellen DeGeneres, Barbara Streissand, Alex Baldwin, and Tim Mc Graw all columns in American Prospect to make the case for evolution….
October 25th, 2006 at 11:46 amAnd Chuck Norris is an expert in biology? Based on what, exactly?
SHEESH! Just how stupid do you have to be to read WND anyway?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:47 amUh, no thanks, he’s a shitty actor and a shitty person. Don’t need to read his drivel.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:47 amdlet….. ouch you got me there my friend… tickled my ribs that did
October 25th, 2006 at 11:48 amHey, you guys and gals be nice to Daryll. He truly believes what he believes, and all these questions are hurting his feelings. He’s not allowed to question his Bible, and answering these questions might make him doubt some of the truths in that holy tome. Then he’d have to kill himself and that government project would never get done. Shame on you all.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:51 amI’ll give a dollar to anyone who can tell me what Adam and Eve have to do with Xmas.
I’ll go ahead and celebrate it with the pagan rituals (i.e. the tree) and use the day to remind myself that, living in Missouri, I’m surrounded by religious zealots who think the earth is only 6,000 years old when every single shred of evidence proves otherwise.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:51 amHasn’t Chucky killed that same NVA colonel about 12 times? Who is he Lazarus Nguyen?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:52 am…
October 25th, 2006 at 11:53 amnever mind his evolution rant, I don’t even buy that he can win a ‘game of Connect 4 in 3 moves’
Turtleman at 45 , I’ll have a crack at that. You know its funny you bring that up, how things don’t seem to change about acceptance of scientific ideas, ‘We don’t understand it, so it must be and ‘Act of God’ - quick, get your bibles out brothers’ hoohah.
So there I was, looking up at Jupiter with my telescope like you do, watching those four little points of light whizz around it every so often and I found my self wondering whether that had anything to do with the crazy wandering about the sky Jupiter did, and Venus, and Mars. I mean the planets lurch about the sky like I do on my way back from Florence Piazza on a Friday night. And I thought to myself, ‘Hey, my Polish bud, Copernicus (or ‘Nick the Polack’ to his homies) had been reading these far-out Arabic astronomy texts on heliocentricity, you know that the sun is the center of the Universe and all that - maybe there’s something in that’. So I got out my compass and paper and let ‘Euclid do the walking’, as we say in the 16th century. So sure enough, putting the Sun at the center of the universe and earth as rotating around it explained all the drunkeness I’d observed in the sky.
Unfortunately, I’m right there in the middle of the Reformation and despite that my old drinking pal is now the Pope, he’s become all anally-retentive about any idea that might displace man from his place as a divine creation and that all this earth, sky, planets stuff is just there to prove to him that the Church has the final say in everything and that whatever the Church has said about the natural world through the Bible is 100% on-the-money, no fallibility, talking donkeys and all.
Well, cut a long story short, I run my mouth off that the Earth revolves around the Sun, my old china the Pope gets wound up that I’ve just set fire to the ‘truthiness’ of the Bible and promises to set fire to me (after he’s had someone inspect the insides of my bum with something hot). Apparently when science threatens the Bible, people get a bit snaky - who knew? Well, I’m not the martyr type so I cave in right (but I cross my fingers and mutter that ‘it does move’ in my final trial, so I fooled those bastards?).
Oh where was I? Getting a bit forgetful after 400 years, sorry. My point? Yes. you know if the Pope had been able to suppress science in the discovery of the truths of the natural world in my time, what state would you be in today? Still sticking flowers up your noses to ward off the pox no doubt (that always cracked me up). So why is all this Bible thumping still going on?
After my work finally got out, that conceited git Newton did some neat stuff, then that old Kraut Einstein and next thing you know, some farm boy from Ohio is on the moon! But I mean giving that nice chap Hawking a hard time is a bit off since he’s said that the Big Bang says nothing about God’s non-existence and I bet if some of you could find Darwin’s body, you’d dig it up and drag it around Kansas behind a pick-up truck. The dude was mostly right, and sorry if that means that funny feeling you get looking at the gorilla cage at the zoo flies in the face of Leviticus chapter whosit, verse whatsit, then tough t**ties to you fish-face.
For Christ’s sake, if God had the grace to make man a critical thinker, don’t you deny God by turning your brains off? Anyway, must dash, good show on the Discovery Channel coming on. I love that David Attenborough stuff.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:57 amMan, Daryll is starting the “War on Christmas” thing early this year. I guess the religious zealots were told to start the season earlier. Must be following the retailer marketing strategy. Pretty soon we’ll hear this crap in July.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:59 amAll these celebs talkin’ out their ass! Who gives a rat’s ass what a Texas Walker Power Ranger has to say about Biology lol! It’s about as bad as Alice Cooper, the old parent-scarin’ freakjob all the sudden becoming a conservative Christian spokes person telling us not to listen to rock stars go on about politics. The irony.
This is my brother Daryll and my other brother Daryll. The Bible says how to properly sacrifice animals - what should I do Daryll? I don’t want Jesus to be pissed if I play with animal guts the wrong way!
October 25th, 2006 at 12:03 pmDaryll
As a Christian, I would like to tell you that the Bible is not about worldly facts, it’s about spiritual truth for believers. It’s a means of finding a relationship of peace and love with God and with other people. It’s not a weapon or a cage. It’s not a science book or a history book. The Word of God is a love story. That which is not loving in the Bible or in anyone’s life is not of God. Those unbelievers who are loving to others are more of God than than hate-filled Christians are.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:05 pmthat is why Chuck Norris is an overpaid court jester instead of a scientist
October 25th, 2006 at 12:10 pmpoor little boy. go back to hawking shit on the teevee and be vewy vewy afraid of jesus, for he wants you dead and is trying his hardest to get you to enlist in the army
October 25th, 2006 at 12:16 pmhere’s the thing, the crux of the matter: they - and by they, i mean the anti-evolution folks like mr. kickbutt norris here - just cannot accept the fact that they’re not “special” or annointed by god, or made in his own image.
look at his words. read btw the lines: “We are not creations of random chance. We are not accidents.” Implied –> we’re better than that. we’re more important than some damn monkey or gorilla, fish or amoeba.
it’s an ego thing, pure and simple. they have a pathological need to be special, and it over rides that part of their brain that thinks.
there’s plenty of wonder to be found in the world-view of evolution; these guys just can’t see it ‘cuz their perch atop god’s almighty pedestal is threatened.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:23 pmInteresting in that the only way upChuck Norass is HERE is due to random chance, a God could not be that stupid.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:37 pmI respect Chuck for not being afraid to stand up for the truth, which is obviously very unpopular. The Bible says that in the last days, men will be “willingly ignorant” of the truth. Hang in there, Chuck. The theory of evolution or natural selection is just a secular religion, and the day will come that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Y’all think the universe created itself?
October 25th, 2006 at 12:37 pmSo it all comes down to control, Phil, religion is about control. That’s what I see in your answer. Looks like it was true in Galileo’s time as it is today (nice job Galileo - any chance we can get Darwin himself to stop by too?). No different from fascism and communism in their own way.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:37 pmThis Week On SkyAngel:
FRIDAY
9PM :Chuck Norris’(and God’s) list of the top 100 carefully thought out creatures
10PM: Kirk Cameron cooks: 10 easy meals Jesus would have gone gagga over
October 25th, 2006 at 12:43 pmDavid, explain that one:
“The theory of evolution or natural selection is just a secular religion”
You can start from any definition of the word ‘religion’ you like. I would appreciate it it you capitalized Theory of Evolution, we can start from Darwin’s point and we should be careful to distinguish between Darwin’s work and the body of work that comes after it.
“day will come that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord”
And if the Muslims, Jews, Hindus etc choose not to, what’s the plan there Thomas Aquinas?
“Y’all think the universe created itself?”
I don’t know, but then that’s not what we’re talking about here is it?
October 25th, 2006 at 12:50 pmGood old Chuckie mentor role model? - yeah sure, as far as the women in his life- he tries before he buys-woos before he screws-plays before he lays-sleeps before he keeps-and beds before he weds! As far as his so-called “soul mate” she had a radical conversion when she was 26, the only thing that is radical about her is between her legs. Who strays from God and loses God and then finds God, religion is a part of your life no matter what, nobody loses God and then finds God, where did Norris find God - between her legs? The only reason that she married him is for the status, and of course the money. What kind of woman leaves her husband because he has M.S., in short she does not want to take care of a sick man. She didn’t know “what Walker was” then why did she send him a topless picture of herself to him? How dumb can a guy be? I bet she did Morales.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:50 pmChuck Norris and Ted Nugent should both be kicking butt in Iraq.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:50 pmthis is why the USA is falling further and further behind in science. they refuse to believe the “theory” when Darwin first wrote the origin of species it was controversial because most of his conclusions were based on observations of the natural world….and they had good reason to doubt. but with the molecular biology we have proven that most of his observations were correct. that species are related and that small changes in the dna make a huge difference in the phenotypes of the organism in question.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:01 pmwe must not allow politics in to science. politics is mostly opinion, science is based in fact…let me re-phrase that….science is based on the scientific method…..a question followed by experiments….followed by conclusions…and it must repeat….good science can be repeated by anyone…and if it cant be repeated then its not good science…
Hey Chuck, do me a favor and ask God about fleas and mosquitos, Why? …..and while you’re at it, what’s up with Poison Ivy? I mean what’s the point?
October 25th, 2006 at 1:01 pmthis is why the USA is falling further and further behind in science. they refuse to believe the “theory” when Darwin first wrote the origin of species it was controversial because most of his conclusions were based on observations of the natural world….and they had good reason to doubt. but with the molecular biology we have proven that most of his observations were correct. that species are related and that small changes in the dna make a huge difference in the phenotypes of the organism in question.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:03 pmHey Daryll! Guess What !!!! I DON”T BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, MAN!!!
October 25th, 2006 at 1:09 pmI DON”T!!! YEA and I DON’t believe that horrible book that worships death and destruction you call a “bible”. I don’t! HAHAHAHAHAH!!!! GUESS WHAT!~ I think you are an idiot! And you know what? When you “accuse” someone of not believing in the Bible, you sound even stupider than Rush Limbo! Like belief in the “bible” is some law or something. NOT, little man, NOT a LAW!!!! You want a law about belief? Good luck making people believe what you want them to believe by threatening them, fool. Take your “holy scriptures” and shove ‘em in that tight little hole you keep your foot in.
I thought I saw a grasshopper praying and giving thanks to God last night Chuck……….,but he was in the mouth of a bird.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:11 pmCenturies later and we’re still rehashing the Reformation..? And I thought the obsession with Clinton was bad…
October 25th, 2006 at 1:15 pmDavid you’ll never force me into your religion no matter how much you torture, threaten with hellfire, or offer your candyland promises…sorry.
If Evolution was so incompatible with God, why did the pope say it was part of God’s master plan?
Watch out or Bush might appoint Chuck as our national Science advisor.
Between this Evolution-denying BS and anti-stem cell research fuxsticks, it’s a wonder the US is considered first world.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:18 pmChuck Norris makes Arnold Schwarzenegger look like a braniac and a Royally-trained Shakespearean actor.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:24 pmWho knew that Chuck Norris is such a simpleton?
October 25th, 2006 at 1:33 pm“the bible states, god created Adam and Eve, not humans evolved from animal species.”
Right off the bat, we know we’re in trouble. You get your scientific knowledge from an ancient middleeastern text. How quaint. As others have and will continue to point out, it is not possible to actually read the bible and reconcile all of its content with actual reality. If you choose to focus on fantasy, there is no point to further debate.
“it’s a holiday celebrating Jesus’ birth, Why not call Dec. 25 festivus because you don’t beliee in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.”
Forgetting for the moment that you have extreme arrogance to try to tell other people what holidays to celebrate, what to call them, and how to do the celebrating, you should at least have your facts straight. Jesus was not born on Dec 25. Nobody knows when he was born, but wintertime in Bethlehem doesn’t seem to fit. Christians needed a day for the celebration so they appropriated a day used for the pagan feast of Saturnalia, taking over the holiday from it’s original purpose. Next time you want to claim that others have “forgotten” the “true meaning” of the winter holiday, stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
If you choose to assign signficance to the birth of Jesus, and to have a celebration of that event on Dec 25, then by all means build yourself a creche and lay in it.
Likewise if the rest of us prefer to use that day to celebrate the joy of giving, or just want to have a fun time for the kids with Santa and reindeer and decorated trees, or if someone wants to just enjoy an end of year time off from work, what’s it to you?
First Christians want non-believers to not celebrate Christmas, and then when non-believers (or more tolerant believers) respond by using non-Christian phrases like “Happy Holidays”, the christers get all indignant about “an attack on Christmas”.
The fact is, there are at least 3 types of Christmas celebrations: (1) the Jesus-birth celebration; (2) the totally secular winter holiday celebration; (3) the original pagan feast. Most people celebrate #1 or #2, and alot of people celebrate an odd hybrid of the two. I want a clear explanation from you of which is “right”, bearing in mind that I’m not aware of any laws proclaiming that Christians own the calendar.
Screw Christian self-important arrogance.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:34 pmWhy does the Right never actually “think” or “feel “, yet use these words constantly to explain themselves?
October 25th, 2006 at 1:39 pmThis is sad. I can’t tell my son Chuck is a moron. He’d be crushed. I would have rather not learned this about Chuck.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:42 pmWell, since zero trolls have thus far explained the intelligent design of the human appendix, male nipples and the fact that we share identical pseudogenes (genes that don’t do anything) with chimpanzees, perhaps Chuck Norris would like to play?
Sheesh, these right-wing idiots are really asinine.
Evolution is real. Chuck Norris is the figment of our imaginations.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:45 pmDavid: “Y’all think the universe created itself?”
That’s right, you southern dumbass. Get used to it.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:46 pmChuck understands the bible as well. You liberals are a shame to biblical standards.
Comment by Daryll — October 25, 2006 @ 11:02 am
Explain male nipples Daryll. The human appendix too.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:47 pmMaybe Chuck, Daryll or David can explain goosebumps.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:49 pmOn December 25th, I think I’ll celebrate my ability to reason and think critically.
Comment by G.W.SuperChrist — October 25, 2006 @ 11:20 am
That’s agreat idea! We thinking pepople should all do that…
October 25th, 2006 at 1:49 pm(laughs at #63)
October 25th, 2006 at 1:49 pmThe truth, huh? So you’ve got all manner of scientific evidence to back up claims that the bible is 100% literal truth, do you? Then by all means, enlighten us, the poor “willingly ignorant” with your amazing insight, which seems to have eluded all of mankind for over 2000 years.
I love how the bible crowd can’t help but mix biology with astrophysics by insisting that evolution theory says ANYTHING about how the universe was created. Here’s a hint: It doesn’t. Evolution theory is an explination for the mechanical process of natural selection, supported by observable and detectable evidence. It says nothing about the creation of the universe. Nothing. That’s an entirely different scientific field, but I suppose creationist nuts have to keep that straw man propped up to beat on, because they can’t tackle the real thing and win.
What is wrong with you morons, the website is a parody. A PARODY!!!!!!!
October 25th, 2006 at 1:53 pmNo way!! After seeing a program where he was laughing and reading hos onw facts, I thought chuck norris was a fun and (at least mildly) intelligent person.
Now this?? What a disappointment…
October 25th, 2006 at 1:53 pmYou liberals are a shame to biblical standards.
Comment by Daryll — October 25, 2006 @ 11:02 am
Yeah, you are right. We are against stoning adulterers, those who have a different religious faith, and rebellious chilldren who disrespect their parents.
We are truly a shame.
If you don’t believe in the creation of Adam and Eve, don’t celebrate Christmas, I mean it.
What’s one got to do with the other? Do you think Christmas celebrates the creation of Adam and Eve?
Daryll, whatever it is you are on, it is not good for you. It shows.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:54 pmUB - Darryl’s off looking for proof that God created Adam and Eve and David is struggling with the argument of evolutionary theory being a secular religion. Either that or the Festival of Life is coming to a doorbell near you anytime soon. Don’t answer that door!
You liberals are a shame to biblical standards - You haven’t been out doing enough smiting, killing of the menfolk, enslaving of the women and participating in capricious stonings today, either.
Oh and I’ll say it - testicles. Did God add those on at the last minute after the chest cavity was full of all that other stuff? Hey, why not take out that appendix and put them there? They’ll be safe there.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:55 pmEvolution is not a FACT. It is not a law. It is a theory. One that cannot be proven or even tested (as it would take millions of years to test, yes). Those who believe that it is a fact have turned it into a religion. I believe that it takes just as much faith to believe that evolution exists as it does to believe that God created everything.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:57 pmFrom David
One thing, have you ever thought to pull your head out of your ass and maybe look at the words you quote in a different direction? One Being, “The Bible says that in the last days, men will be ‘willingly ignorant’ of the truth” If you think maybe someone writing this got something right (which in so many words isn’t to hard to think some words are) I think this would more have to do with the radical Christians then the Science of how things actually work. Christians are noted showing absolute disrespect for Empirical evidence and scientific fact (side note the term Theory means: “the body of rules, ideas, principles, and techniques that applies to a particular subject, especially when seen as distinct from actual practice.†ACTUAL PRACTICE!) Just because we (science minded) put the word Theory behind or in front of something doesn’t make it any less true or fact.
I was once just like you willing to blind myself and unwilling to listen to what is out there. Expecting your “text” to do right is a bad move from the start. Science never assumes it always makes observations and then follows through with proving the observations. Sadly many religions don’t look at them selves in this microscopic way because deep down everyone knows it would not pass.
Over the last year it was made more and more obvious, to me, that Christianity and all other religions are bull shit. I am my self and am what I make of my self. Believing in a God that knows everything but says you have free will is only lying to you to maintain control. AKA this is the reason the “Church†claims authority over the people. The gods are of man’s creation for answers to the unexplained. We live in the 21st Century. Lets Fracking get it together and realize we are intelligent enough to explain how things actually work instead of putting myth in the mix.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:59 pmMaybe Chuck, Daryll or David can explain goosebumps.
Comment by Bluedog49 — October 25, 2006 @ 1:49 pm
How about explaining poop? I mean, if there was intelligence in the design of things, there wouldn’t be those foul left-overs that stink to high heaven (pun intended)…
October 25th, 2006 at 1:59 pm1 Corinth 3:8… “Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.”
October 25th, 2006 at 1:59 pmHere’s the bible stating that modern farming techniques are a violation of the bible, as different people planteth and watereth on most agri businesses.
Let’s storm the farms and burn their heretical barns to the ground!
An All-Powerful God would have given Jesus Karate lessons Chuck.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:00 pmChuck forgot to mention that what he said is only true because he allowed GOD to live!
I hope what I say doesn’t offend too many progressives who are religious, but I mean come on! Not believing that the process of natural selection is real is like not believing the world is round these days.
I guess we can put ol’ Chuck into the Mel Gibson camp of “If evolution is real, why are there still monkeys?”
DAMNIT MONKEYS! EVOLVE ALREADY!
October 25th, 2006 at 2:02 pmOh and I’ll say it - testicles. Did God add those on at the last minute after the chest cavity was full of all that other stuff? Hey, why not take out that appendix and put them there? They’ll be safe there.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — October 25, 2006 @ 1:55 pm
Hilarious comments above - didn’t want to clog the thread with too many compliments…
Yeah, really, he couldn’t design sperm that could withstand body temperatures? Huh? How is that even mildly smart, much less full blown intelligent?
The list grows ever longer on evidence of Evolution, while the veracity list for a god is evidently blank.
It’s why they need faith. There is no proof.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:05 pmI believe that it takes just as much faith to believe that evolution exists as it does to believe that God created everything.
Comment by jrichter — October 25, 2006 @ 1:57 pm
You ‘believing’ is not fact. You not understanding that the definition of the word ‘theory’ in scientific context doesn’t lessen the reality that gravity is also a theory. A theory is something that has been withstood the tests and scrutiny of time.
You didn’t refute anything, just replaced your own conjecture for facts, and expected us to accept it. You are either ignorant or mentally challenged. Go read some biology. It might help.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:09 pmim not a roman catolic
i dont pray to a father or a nun nor do i worship mary
i pray only to God my father through Jesus Christ
im with daryl here, all who dont agree should ask themselves, have u ever witnessed a miricle? ever been promised something by God? do you know god?
ive seen cancer bow down like a dog
God has made me promises and kept them, aswel as answering my prayers - some answered within a few hours
i know God!
whoever said to daryl that hes just afraid of living is wrong! i have more fun than i ever had not being a christian. you must ask urself maybe ur not believing because u urself are afraid
and if you ignorant people still dont believe in something greather than ur own selfish how do explain the weegie board.
the theory of evolution has been proven wrong
and lastly what year is it? 2006 years since when :D
I believe in God because i want to, not because im scared, but because i love my father.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:11 pmOver the last year it was made more and more obvious, to me, that Christianity and all other religions are bull shit
Comment by Adam — October 25, 2006 @ 1:59 pm
Feels liberating doesn’t it? I did the same myself about four years ago.
Congratulations! You are officially now your own god : )
October 25th, 2006 at 2:12 pmBiology is based on the “theory” of evolution. Can you observe evolution? Can you test it? Can you repeat it?
With gravity you can. Try flying on your own. In fact, why don’t you try evolving.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:12 pmIt’s the inability to distinguish feelings or faith from facts. Religion does that to you.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:12 pmEvolution is not a FACT. It is not a law. It is a theory.
Comment by jrichter — October 25, 2006 @ 1:57 pm
Evolution is both a fact and a theory.
Scientific theories explain observable phenomena, aka facts. If evolution were not a fact to be explained, there would be no theory of evolution.
One that cannot be proven or even tested (as it would take millions of years to test, yes).
Nothing in science is “proven”. You either have evidence to back up a hypothesis or you don’t. Also, evolution can be tested, and has been observed.
How did you come up with that figure?
I believe that it takes just as much faith to believe that evolution exists as it does to believe that God created everything.
Well, that is just your opinion, isn’t it?
And what Erhlich’s quote actually says is that the theory of evolution is the best explanation we have (”it cannot be refuted”), not that it is not true. He was decrying the lack of tests, not the lack of data -because all the data available points to evolution as a process that actually takes place (”Every conceivable observation can be fitted into it.”).
I don’t know how you got the idea this quote shores up your argument.
Finally, this is a 30 year old quote. Things have changed since.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:14 pmTo number 14, Daryll et al.
There wasn’t an Adam and Eve. It needs to be understood in context that it is a creation story - not a literal occurrence. It explained things to people at the time as a means, not to be taken as literal truth.
What is seven days to God?
Not seven of ours on the Earth, it is about the number seven and its importance to people of the era - it is a special number to them. The Jews weren’t lost in the desert for 40 years, 40 is meant to mean a long time. 40 years, 40 days, etc…
It’s not all literal. Take it in context and understand the history of when the stories were written and for whom and you’ll see things as they were meant to be.
… speaking as a scientifically minded Catholic.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:14 pmThe only thing I have to say is that Chuck Norris isn’t helping religion or biology come to a decision by talking about it. We need some clergymen or some scientists to decide, not someone who has more jokes written about him than people who watch his show.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:14 pmI believe in God because i want to, not because im scared, but because i love my father.
Comment by pete — October 25, 2006 @ 2:11 pm
Pete - so sorry about your recent bump on the head. Hope the swelling goes down soon and you’ll get back to thinking like a non-delusional adult again. Must suck to have all those crazy hallucinations and have lost control over your ability to sound coherent. Poor thing.
Get well soon.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:14 pmPete, from your own book of Matthew: “And when you pray, be not like the hypocrites, who affect to pray standing in the assemblies, and at the corners of the streets, that men may observe them. Indeed, I say to you, they have received their reward. But you, when you would pray, retire to your closet; and having shut the door, pray to your Father; and your Father, to whom, though he is unseen himself, nothing is secret, will recompense you.â€
Get it, Pete? He’s saying shadddup!
October 25th, 2006 at 2:15 pmi think you bible burners are assholes. i’m not a christian. but i at least have the decency to allow people to state their own opinions and beliefs. your lack-of-religion (and mine, for that matter) is no better than his christianity.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:16 pmI hate to break it to you jrichter, but gravity is also a “theory” in science.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:16 pmBiology is based on the “theory†of evolution. Can you observe evolution? Can you test it? Can you repeat it?
Yes. Clearly you’ve never heard of the tsetse fly, which was the subject of many experiments because it’s life span is just one day long. Long enough for us to observe it…
With gravity you can. Try flying on your own. In fact, why don’t you try evolving.
Comment by jrichter — October 25, 2006 @ 2:12 pm
Evolution is not a personal choice. But, clearly, from your post, de-evolution is.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:17 pmEvery time there’s a discussion like this all the bibleboys do is prove to the rest of us that they have no real understanding of science. How sad.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:18 pmBluedog49: wasing praying here mate thanks, a hypocryte is someone to says look at me im great, once again u take the bible out of context
October 25th, 2006 at 2:19 pmnice one
October 25th, 2006 at 2:19 pmFinally, this is a 30 year old quote. Things have changed since.
Comment by Gregor Samsa — October 25, 2006 @ 2:14 pm
In religious-speak, isn’t it actually much, much older? You know, how a 70 year old man is said to have been 900 years old in the Bible, and the 4.5 billion year old Earth is said to be just over 6,000? : )
October 25th, 2006 at 2:19 pmBluedog49 the theory has been proven wrong by SCIENCE
October 25th, 2006 at 2:20 pmI love it when Christians claim miracles when medicine has had the reason for fixing problems. I love it when they say well Medicine is a miracle inspired by God. No it’s from Science observing the Human body and fixing its “shitty design.” Religion has been taking claims on scientific findings for years and claiming them as their own when it fits in there “master plan.” Grow up and see the light and where it’s really coming from.
Oh and so God talks to you? Might want to go see someone about that. IN some parts we call you crazy. Wake up and smell the Coffee and realize you are only tricking yourself. You tell yourself it’s from God when in fact it’s from you and the out side world. We are extremely intelligent and can think on our own and figure things out, no need for a made up god just so you can claim miracles.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:20 pmHave you been able to make that fly some other insect? or perhaps a different creature all together? Or is it still a fly?
October 25th, 2006 at 2:21 pm2Peter 3 “But forget not this one thing, beloved, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”
October 25th, 2006 at 2:21 pmchad: “your lack-of-religion (and mine, for that matter) is no better than his christianity.”
So the idea that I’m going to spend an eternity being tortured in hell for not accepting church dogma is equivalent to the idea that science can offer us answers to the mysteries of the universe that religion is ill-equipped to offer.
Sorry, shitheal. You’re not going to win that one.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:21 pmi heard chuck norris decapitated himself when he heard himself say something that stupid.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:22 pmyour lack-of-religion (and mine, for that matter) is no better than his christianity.
Comment by chad — October 25, 2006 @ 2:16 pm
chad = pete
(See how much better that is pete-chad? We can logically decipher things when we use our brains.)
October 25th, 2006 at 2:22 pmBluedog49 the theory has been proven wrong by SCIENCE
Comment by pete — October 25, 2006 @ 2:20 pm
So you said. Prove it.
(Hint: you can’t, because you are lying).
October 25th, 2006 at 2:24 pmPete, you’re standing on the corner proclaiming your love of Jesus and God. Please read Matthew again. He’s talking about you.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:24 pmhow do explain the weegie board.
Comment by pete — October 25, 2006 @ 2:11 pm
Er, oh, wishful thinking? Self-delusion? Willful ignorance?
the theory of evolution has been proven wrong
Really? When? By whom? Do you have links, evidence?
October 25th, 2006 at 2:25 pmHave you been able to make that fly some other insect? or perhaps a different creature all together?
Comment by jrichter — October 25, 2006 @ 2:21 pm
This is your own strawman and not what the theory of evolution says. If that actually happened, then the teory would have been completely refuted.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:26 pmIn religious-speak, isn’t it actually much, much older? You know, how a 70 year old man is said to have been 900 years old in the Bible, and the 4.5 billion year old Earth is said to be just over 6,000? Comment by unbelievable — October 25, 2006 @ 2:19 pm
So how do you know that the earth is so old?
October 25th, 2006 at 2:26 pmCharles Bronson could kick Chuck Norris’ ass.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:27 pmjrighter - you make the standard mistake of using the word ‘theory’ incorrectly. Let us help you. A quick primer in scientific method is available at Wikipedia - I will paraphrase a bit
A scientific theory is an explanation of oberved, measurable, repeatable phenomena. It is testable, falsifiable and may therefore be discarded at some point.
Just for sh*ts and grins, here wikipedia on a religion:
Religion is a system of social coherence based on a common group of beliefs or attitudes concerning an object, person, unseen being, or system of thought considered to be supernatural, sacred, divine or highest truth, and the moral codes, practices, values, institutions, and rituals associated with such belief or system of thought.
Alrighty, a scientific theory clearly cannot be a religion - after all, how can you falsify using natural observed phenomena something that is supernatural?
I guess that puts paid to this foaming nonsensical statement:
Those who believe that it is a fact have turned it into a religion. I believe that it takes just as much faith to believe that evolution exists as it does to believe that God created everything.
Ok, let’s turn to law. Newton’s three LAWS of motion are a best a good guess, right Einstein? So even LAWS really aren’t that much different than a good theory.
OK facts about evolution. This statement of yours is also a load of bollocks:
One that cannot be proven or even tested
Course it can - the fossil record for one thing, imperfect though it is. You want proof of evolutionary behavior in measured lifetime - explain how the bacteria which cause many of the nastier types of infectious disease, TB, strep, e-coli are now resistant to penicillin? That, sonny jim is a fact a measurable, repeatable, non-supernatural fact, and the Theory of Evolution explains it better than anything else we can think of today. If something better comes along to explain it then fine, but until then… well if you think that belief in the supernatural is going to help you explain your world more than scientific theory, well that wraps it up for gravity, Maxwell’s equations as well as Darwin.
The US government is on board with the concept of evolution as supported by facts: google Pacific Northwest sockeye salmon, status review 1997 and evolution and the noaa.
Or do you make a prayer to some flying spaghetti monster thing everytime you turn on a light?
October 25th, 2006 at 2:27 pmWhy are christians so uncertain of their beliefs that just the mention of a scientific theory sends them into a whining, honking tailspin? Evidently, one would barely get his feet wet wading into the depths of their belief.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:29 pmHave you been able to make that fly some other insect? or perhaps a different creature all together? Or is it still a fly?
Comment by jrichter — October 25, 2006 @ 2:21 pm
Make it? If you hadn’t typed it there in black and white, Inever would have believed anyone could be that willfully stupid.
You know, I’d have better luck teaching my cat to sing the National Athem in Portugeuse (which I don’t speak), than getting you to understand that flies don’t magically change into other things at their level of maturity, but that evolution occurs at the cellular level.
Here’s a shocker, j… You evolved from a single celled organism. Yep. Want proof? Okay… you started out life as your mother’s egg, a single-celled organism, which was fertilized by your father’s sperm and began to grow into you. In case you failed to notice, there are other people who look nothing like you. This is proof for evolution. If it were intelligent design, that egg and sperm would produce perfect little replicas of their parents every time…
October 25th, 2006 at 2:30 pmits proven wrong because there is something about the proteins extra enzyms in apes that if were present in humans would kill us
October 25th, 2006 at 2:30 pm“Have you been able to make that fly some other insect? or perhaps a different creature all together?”
Comment by jrichter — October 25, 2006 @ 2:21 pm
Like I said, bibleboys rush to their keyboards to prove just how much they don’t understand science.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:31 pmJrichter: “So how do you know that the earth is so old?”
Matter decays. We can measure the rate of decay. It’s “science.” Check into it sometime. It’s fascinating.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:32 pmYet those bacteria are still of their same kind. They never evolved into something they are not. Resistant to disease or not. I say thats survival. I am not saying things cant learn. I am saying they cannot become something totally different. Bacteria don’t “evolve” to become animals. They “evovle” to become better bacteria.
The fossil record… come on.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:33 pmThere was an EVE, this fact has been proven. All homo sapiens sapiens have been proved to have origins with the same mother, or EVE.
Evolution is real. Animals evolve, look at all their minute differences.
Then look at us, we look like aliens compared to most things on this planet. Cite our differences. HUmans are the only species that can take a thought and make it a reality. We are the only ones who can create for the sake of creation or inspiration.
Humans were Created, not like magic poof Jesus shit, but with genetic engineering
Notice the intertwined snakes on the universal medical symbol? Remind you of anything? Maybe the double helix structure of DNA?
Kings blood, the Giants, Nephilim. Read the bible, study anceint history.
You know in the bible it talks about “god” mating with the gos creation (humans) and that their offspring were Giants. Crazy shit.
Ever wondered why Kings are so anal about their Kings blood and incestual marriages? Its because the kings were gentically altered (by the gods) in able to facilitate better communication with the gods, and so that they could rule over their people more wisely.
Kings blood, Giants blood, unevolved neanderthals blood, and pure us
Homo Sapiens Sapiens… Thinking man.
Where did we come from? Nobody knows henc ethe missing link between Neadnerthals H Sapiences and us H Sapiene Sapiens.
They appeared in Sumer from nowhere, and they alreay had almost all of the knowledge that we base our society of today. Where did they get it or how did they learn it?
They say that the god came down on wings or chariots of fire (spaceships) and taught them everything they knew.
This is very similar to how the Lord teaches Adam and Eve how to till the land after he exiles them from EDEN.
Educate yourselves guys.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:33 pmPete: “but the proteins extra enzyms in apes….”
Pete, just give it up. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:34 pmFor all my Christian “brothers” who are so threatened by evolution, did it ever occur to you that when God gave us dominion over the earth, he also gave us the science to do so? Animal husbandry is an example of applied evolution science, manipulation of a natural process by man to a particular desired end. Changing anti-biotics in order to stay ahead of the adapting mechanism of bacteria is another example. By denying the mechanisms of evolution, many of my Christian “brothers” are denying God’s creation.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:34 pmHere’s a shocker, j… You evolved from a single celled organism. Yep. Want proof? Okay… you started out life as your mother’s egg, a single-celled organism, which was fertilized by your father’s sperm and began to grow into you. In case you failed to notice, there are other people who look nothing like you. This is proof for evolution. If it were intelligent design, that egg and sperm would produce perfect little replicas of their parents every time…
Comment by unbelievable — October 25, 2006 @ 2:30 pm
I think you have that mistaken with cloning.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:34 pmPETE:
if You are paying for the subcription to some Christian Scinece Mag drop it. The Pseudo-Science you are spitting out it burning my eyes. Learn your shit or don’t say it.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:35 pmThere was an EVE, this fact has been proven. All homo sapiens sapiens have been proved to have origins with the same mother, or EVE.
Evolution is real. Animals evolve, look at all their minute differences.
Then look at us, we look like aliens compared to most things on this planet. Cite our differences. HUmans are the only species that can take a thought and make it a reality. We are the only ones who can create for the sake of creation or inspiration.
Humans were Created, not like magic poof Jesus shit, but with genetic engineering
Notice the intertwined snakes on the universal medical symbol? Remind you of anything? Maybe the double helix structure of DNA?
Kings blood, the Giants, Nephilim. Read the bible, study anceint history.
You know in the bible it talks about “god” mating with the gos creation (humans) and that their offspring were Giants. Crazy shit.
Ever wondered why Kings are so anal about their Kings blood and incestual marriages? Its because the kings were gentically altered (by the gods) in able to facilitate better communication with the gods, and so that they could rule over their people more wisely.
Kings blood, Giants blood, unevolved neanderthals blood, and pure us
Homo Sapiens Sapiens… Thinking man.
Where did we come from? Nobody knows henc ethe missing link between Neadnerthals H Sapiences and us H Sapiene Sapiens.
They appeared in Sumer from nowhere, and they alreay had almost all of the knowledge that we base our society of today. Where did they get it or how did they learn it?
They say that the god came down on wings or chariots of fire (spaceships) and taught them everything they knew.
This is very similar to how the Lord teaches Adam and Eve how to till the land after he exiles them from EDEN.
Educate yourselves guys..
October 25th, 2006 at 2:35 pmSo how do you know that the earth is so old?
Comment by jrichter — October 25, 2006 @ 2:26 pm
Math, Geology, Biology, Astrology, Evolution, Climatology, etc. all add up to the same conclusion…
A way I used to tell my high school Physical Science class was that if it takes 20 observative years to watch water transform a river into a deeper river, then by the depths of the Grand Canyon, we know that the planet must be millions of years old. It’s far more complex than that, but it’s a basic concept…
October 25th, 2006 at 2:35 pmReezy, that’s all very fantastic. Now, you need empirical proof, peer reviews, a hypothesis to disprove. There’s lots of work to do. Get to it.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:37 pmits proven wrong because there is something about the proteins extra enzyms in apes that if were present in humans would kill us
Comment by pete — October 25, 2006 @ 2:30 pm
That makes zero sense. Have a link for the scientific studies on that one?
October 25th, 2006 at 2:37 pmSo you know about the things that went on during the mount st helens explosion. How the different mud flows carved out canyons that should have taken thousands of years to create.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:38 pm“I thought we weren’t supposed to pay attention to those Hollywood liberal types.”
HOW IS RELIGION LIBERAL ??
October 25th, 2006 at 2:40 pmThe ancients glorified gods that manifest themselves through patterns of stars or constellations. They were so amazed by that which they did not understand that they had to associate these mystical lights in the sky with something far greater than themselves. Soon the natives gave these shapes names, descriptions, and even personalities. Nearly every culture on Earth has seen patterns in the stars. But, not surprisingly, very few have seen the same patterns. Take, for example, the Big Dipper, perhaps the most recognizable star pattern in the sky. The Big Dipper is not actually a constellation itself, but is part of a larger pattern known to the Greeks as Ursa Major, the Great Bear. The seven stars of the Big Dipper have inspired many stories, perhaps because they are bright and located so near the north celestial pole, around which the stars rotate during the course of the night. But not everyone calls it a Dipper. The British call it a Plough. In Southern France, it is a Saucepan. The Skidi Pawnee Indians saw a stretcher on which a sick man was carried. To the ancient Maya, it was a mythological parrot named Seven Macaw. Hindu sky lore called it the Seven Rishis, or Wise Men. To the early Egyptians, it was the thigh and leg of a bull. The ancient Chinese thought of it as a special chariot for the Emperor of the Heaven or some other celestial bureaucrat. For the Micmac Indians of Canada’s Maritime Provinces, along with several other North American Indian tribes, the bowl of the Big Dipper was a bear, and the stars in the handle represented hunters tracking the bear. And in the nineteenth century, the Big Dipper became a symbol of freedom for runaway slaves, who “followed the Drinking Gourd” to the northern states.
I digress.
The point i’m trying to make here is simple.
All over the world since the beginning of man people have been looking up. Ages ago people saw things very differently than we do today in modern times. Now I can look up in the sky and know that those little points of light are not gods and goddesses, bears and bulls, dippers and saucepans. Whatever cultural definition seemed fitting at the time. They are actually nuclear fuled fireballs billions of light years away.
Which makes me think. What about all the people who died in Zeus’s name?
NO MATTER WHO SAW THEM FIRST, WHO WANTS THEM THE MOST OR
WHO THINKS THAT THEIR STARS ARE THE GREATEST OF THEM ALL…
THEY ARE ALL THE SAME STARS - It just depends on your perception.
Never stop questioning.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:40 pmsorry about the typo; its proven wrong because there are extra enzyms in apes that if were present in humans would kill us”
anyway if you guys are so set on ur theory of evolution and the ‘FACT’ that God does not exist how do you explain miricles?
October 25th, 2006 at 2:40 pmEvolution is not a personal choice. But, clearly, from your post, de-evolution is.
Comment by unbelievable
Sometimes your anti-religious comments rub me a little wrong, but THIS was absolutely, positively hilarious. A tip of the hat.