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VIDEO: Michael J. Fox Responds To Limbaugh Smear»

On Monday, Rush Limbaugh accused actor Michael J. Fox of faking symptoms of Parkinson’s disease in advertisements supporting stem cell research. Limbaugh said Fox was “exaggerating the effects of the disease. He’s moving all around and shaking and it’s purely an act. … This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting.”

Yesterday in Illinois, Fox responded to Limbaugh’s smear. Watch it:

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FOX: I’m kinda lucky right now. It’s ironic, given some things that have been said in the last couple days, that my pills are working really well right now.

ANNOUNCER: That’s Michael J. Fox responding to a critic, radio powerhouse Rush Limbaugh. Michael J. Fox spoke out today in support of stem-cell research at a rally in Illinois. His response comes after the conservative commentator accused Fox of either “acting” or not using his medication during an ad for Missouri senate candidate Claire McCaskill. During the ad, Fox was trembling due to symptoms of his Parkinson’s disease.




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305 Responses to “VIDEO: Michael J. Fox Responds To Limbaugh Smear”

  1. Zimzone Says:

    You go, Michael
    Rush has a chronic disease, too…
    It’s called Foot in Mouth disease, along with painkiller dependency,
    erectile dysfunction, diarreah of the mouth, self flagellation, narcissim
    and a host of others.
    You, Michael, are doing what good people expect.
    Rush does what those who have sold their soul to Satan do;
    lie, cheat, distort, cast dispersion and whatever else a deranged
    mind can come up with.


  2. Hardy+Haberman Says:

    Limbaugh is a big fat flaming gasbag, just like the Hindenburg. To criticize the sick because their symptoms show is the kind of low-life scum tactic he is known for. When will the American public turn him off and get him off the airwaves of our country?


  3. Mary Poplins Says:

    Good for Michael J. Fox. I know first hand about this disease my Mother-in Law had this Parkinson’s disease for about 12 years. I don’t wish this disease on anyone except Old Rush. This guy has a big mouth. I guess he must be speaking for the Right Wing Nut Republican Party.


  4. Jeanne Says:

    When are they going to shut Limbaugh down. Good God. That guy is a menace to all that is good.


  5. NewNameAcquired Says:

    Even this news team can’t get their facts straight. They said, “Fox was trembling due to symptoms of his Parkinson’s disease.”

    But as it’s already been mentioned, he was trembling not because of the disease, but because of the medication he was taking for the disease.


  6. Tom Says:

    I doubt that Limpballs can be gotten off the airwaves. He is Mother Teresa to the morons.
    To paraphrase a familiar quote: “The stupid will always be with us”. And Limpballs is a good and necessary distraction for them. Without him on the air, these idiots would probably spend that time operating heavy equipment. Keeping them near their radios is a real public safety service and we all owe Limpballs a debt of gratitude.


  7. marcus+robinson Says:

    Rush was on his meds just no question. You have to be on something to think like him. I wonder what the maid put in the pill box for that fat A$$???


  8. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    #5 That’s absolutely correct.


  9. Johnny Lib Says:

    Michael J. Fox is heroic.

    I thank him and I apologize for a**holes like the Rushbag!


  10. Frank Says:

    Limbaugh is the best advertisement for using condoms.


  11. Douglas+G. Says:

    I like Michel J. Fox’s acting. I think he’s a great actor, both his tv, and his movies. Does this mean I listen to him as a person any more than the gal or guy working next to me? No. not really. He’s a person, just like you and I with opinions, and feelings, and yes, he has a disease. Does it handicap him? yes. Do I understand what he his going through, again, yes. No I don’t have Parkinson’s, I do however have suffered a permanent disabling injury, that affects every aspect of my daily life. I have to take meds 24 hours a day just to make it through each day.

    My description of the word pain? When going to the bathroom, means getting on your hands and knees and crawling, because you cannot bear the pain of attempting to stand.

    Do I understand how a debilitating injury or disease affects every aspect of your daily life? Porbably better than most of you all here do.

    I also think it was distasteful, and wrong that he intentionally did not take his medication before shooting the ad. It was decpetive. Do i think rush was wrong? Yes and No. He should have found out all the answers before calling him out. Do i think Fox was also wrong? Yes, because he USED his disease to mislead people concerning the effectiveness of current treatment, and it’s availability.

    I also hope that one day we have a cure, but the bottom line here is, the people who are asking for your votes, are in now way going to be able to bring about the changes they are trying to insinuate they can.


  12. Drew+Mackenzie Says:

    I’d love to see Billy Graham (also has Parkinson’s) call up Rush on his show and give him a holy smackdown.


  13. Zooey Says:

    Sorry Frank, Limbaugh is the best advertisement for abstinence.


  14. Fools on the Hill Says:

    At this point in time, we should welcome the fear and smear tatics of thee repugs. If voters can’t see through their slim, they don’t deserve freedom.

    Bring it on Limbaugh! Show us the disgusting creature that you are. The christian right are the most hateful group of losers.


  15. Gourney Says:

    I support you Michael, you are braver than I would ever be I think.

    RIMbaugh is excrement…


  16. Preznit+Pinhead Says:

    I wonder if Rush was faking the big pimple on his ass that got him out of serving in Vietnam?


  17. Sharon Cox Says:

    Good Morning Zooey and all, limbaugh would be a good project for reto active birth control…….Blessings


  18. JaneESchneider Says:

    Douglas G., I’m sorry to hear of your suffering, and wish you well. I just wanted to ask if it’s been verified that MJF did NOT take his meds prior to taping the ad? I have not heard that anywhere, and do not know if that’s been confirmed. I’m holding off any judgment of his actions until/unless he has admitted to it.


  19. Bruce+Gorton Says:

    Douglas+G.

    If Fox had not taken his medication before the advert, he would not have been moving around, he wouldn’t be able to. The twitching and constant movement? A side effect of the medication.

    Fox isn’t contemptable, but I get this strange feeling, sick or not, you are.


  20. Johnny+Lib Says:

    “I also think it was distasteful, and wrong that he intentionally did not take his medication before shooting the ad.”

    Douglas G., who, other than Limbaugh has said that Fox didn’t take his meds before taping the spots?

    You just keep spouting the lies, OK?


  21. Republicans Are The Fear And Smear Party Says:

    Thank you for being so brave, Michael. Limpballs has nothing to contribute to society so he tries to spread hate.


  22. Maldoror Says:

    Illinoize? Who is the commentator? Idiot.


  23. RobG Says:

    Douglas G:
    The symptoms of the medication are the tremors, moron. If he intentionally didn’t take his meds, he would barely be able to move.
    Get you facts straight, asshole.


  24. wisedup Says:

    Pat Roberson,Falwell…where are you now?……all the do gooders are GUILTY of doing NOTHING to stop this scum.


  25. Douglas+G Says:

    But it must be true because I heard it on talk radio.


  26. wisedup Says:

    Pat Roberson,Falwell…where are you now?……all the do gooders are GUILTY of doing NOTHING to stop this scum limpdong. He will have to live with his statments forever,because WE will NEVER let him forget it..NEVER.


  27. DRxJ Says:

    I have a question, since I cannot open a movie file from work:
    did Michael J Fox “intentionally not take his meds before shooting this commercial?”

    Because I would like to point out something:
    Parkinson’s Disease is a lack of dopamine production from the neurons in the brain. Replenishment of dopamine is the standard mode of action. Unfortunately, certain “dopamine producing” drugs are not “brain selective”, thus will affect every cell of the body. Over time, standard dosing or an increase in dosing can result in Tardive Dyskenisia, which is, and I quote, characterized by repetitive, involuntary, purposeless movements. Features of the disorder may include grimacing, tongue protrusion, lip smacking, puckering and pursing, and rapid eye blinking. Rapid movements of the arms, legs, and trunk may also occur. Involuntary movements of the fingers may appear as though the patient is playing an invisible guitar or piano.
    sometimes, to decrease this side effect, one must discontinue drug therapy for a while, but not always. And one doesn’t immeadiately see a result the day they stop taking or reduce their meds. Dopamine is built up in their system, and upon discontinuation, will slowly leave the body, over days and days.
    so, if Mr.Fox actually had stopped his meds over weeks, he would have decreased his involuntary shaking over time, and become more rigid and stiff.


  28. oxillini Says:

    See, this is what I hate about the state of the media in America (although Rush is more entertainment than media really.) Anyone can scream any accusation they want, and if they’re audience is big enough a large portion of America believes it. Later, when that is proven to be false, a tiny little retraction or apology will come out, but long after the genie is out of the lamp.


  29. Johnny+Lib Says:

    Illinoize? Who is the commentator? Idiot.

    Comment by Maldoror

    KMPH is a Fox station in Fresno. Surprised?


  30. oxillini Says:

    Illinoize? Who is the commentator? Idiot.

    Comment by Maldoror — October 25, 2006 @ 10:34 am

    The United States can only handle one Land of Lincoln, so please do not pluralize it. Has he never heard it pronounced correctly before? Seriously?


  31. Marko Says:

    Let’s get something straight here.

    A side-effect of the medication is that it makes the patient shake MORE.

    Untreated Parkinson’s disease freeze the muscles of the sufferer.

    What Fox was trying to do was trying to find a medium place (between drug and no drug) where he could actually talk in a somewhat normal fashion.

    Limbaugh on the other hand has made a career of lying and just pulling stuff out of his butt… making stuff up. Why can he do this? Because there is a segment of the population who are so disparate to believe in a world that doesn’t exist, a world where their prejudices are justified, that they’ll look the other way.


  32. RJ in Chicago Says:

    I never had much respect for Limbaugh - but after this recent verbal assault he has really sunk to the bottom of the toilet. Funy that a man who claims to be christian abuses prescription meds and passes judgement.


  33. RealScientist Says:

    I don’t think whether Douglas G. is in pain or not, or whether his disability is worse than Fox’s or not, somehow excuses him from exhibiting basic decency.

    Douglas, Rush Limbaugh is a despicable, hateful person, and there is no excuse for carrying his water, which you seem so determined to do.


  34. DOLL Says:

    Michael, May God Bless you and your family during this horrible ordeal! When we think like the world we become like them, We live in a evil fallen world, let christ guide you always. May prayers are with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  35. Andrew+W Says:

    I think Rush is just bitter that the ultraconservative, pill-popping Michael Keaton wasn’t real.


  36. ACG Says:

    Michael J. Fox’s explanation was that he’s got Parkinson’s, which causes the freezing up. He’s on a drug for the Parkinson’s that causes tremors and shaking. He’s on another drug for the tremors that causes the swaying. So what we see in the video is the result of a drug taken because of another drug taken because of Parkinson’s.


  37. Tammy M Says:

    Michael J, It’s good to see you rise above the proclivity of the 2006 political campaigning and it’s ignorant babbling. Much admiration to you.

    Tammy


  38. ACG Says:

    I guess that’s kind of the diametrical opposite of not taking his meds.


  39. TheToonGuy Says:

    We must be kind to Doug - his brain has atrophied and Rush must do all of his thinking for him. He is incapable of “using the googles” to do simple research on a topic and must depend on the narrow trickle of baseless opinions that come from Limbaugh for his every thought and action. Won’t you please give now to help end the plight of the dittoheads?


  40. Rush Baby Says:

    Everyone missed the point. Whether or not Michael J. Fox exaggerated his symptoms, or not, is not the point. It is whether or Michael J. Fox is being opportunistic with his malady. The point is whether Michael J. Fox is using his celebrity to make unsubstantiable political statements. That is the question.


  41. American Nightmare Says:

    The point is whether Michael J. Fox is using his celebrity to make
    unsubstantiable political statements. That is the question.

    Comment by Rush Baby

    Really? Then you got the wrong thread.


  42. Unholy+Moses Says:

    It is whether or Michael J. Fox is being opportunistic with his malady. The point is whether Michael J. Fox is using his celebrity to make unsubstantiable political statements.

    So supporting candidates who are for research that may (may being the key word) lead to a cure are being “opportunistic”?

    Was Christopher Reeves opportunistic? Would Lance Armstrong be if the issue were cancer treatments?

    Also, Fox is the one that produced the ad in Missouri — NOT Claire McCaskill. This is an issue that affects him (and even me, since I have a degenerative spinal disease), so he’s doing what he can to get the truth out.

    I know facts can be pesky things, but it’d be nice if some people used them every once in a while.


  43. TRUTHSEEKER Says:

    Rush Limpbaugh can kiss my ass.


  44. DRxJ Says:

    Whether or not Michael J. Fox exaggerated his symptoms, or not, is not the point.
    Comment by Rush Baby — October 25, 2006 @ 11:01 am

    Man, dittoheads really cannot think on their own, now can they?
    But at the top of the thread, we have this:
    Rush Limbaugh accused actor Michael J. Fox of faking symptoms of Parkinson’s disease in advertisements supporting stem cell research. Limbaugh said Fox was “exaggerating the effects of the disease. He’s moving all around and shaking and it’s purely an act. … This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting.”
    That is the point, Rushie Baby!


  45. Storms Says:

    Rush apologized in the very next segment. Get over it.


  46. CantSeeTheForestForTheTrees Says:

    For those of you who have never listened to Rush’s show it is easy to pick at one comment taken from a 3 hour diatribe. Regardless of what you think of him, I doubt most people could entertain such a large audience for 3 hours every day of the week without occasionally misstating something. I am an occasional listener to his show and I am one of the people who emailed right away when I heard him say what he said about Michael J. Fox. I told him it was wrong. He had gone to a commercial right after making that statement and when he came back from commercial he immediately said that he was mistaken. His point is only that it is not only possible but likely that, whether it be by taking too much or not enough medication, perhaps Michael J. Fox was convinced to make his symptoms appear worse than they do on most days. The guy has a horrible disease and I personally think that it is idiotic for president Bush to have signed legislation making it illegal to use embryos discarded during invitro fertilization for research which would be trashed otherwise. Why destroy something at the early stages of life rather than use it to help potentially improve another’s life? Issues are not always black and white, republican and democrat. It is easy to spout hate about Rush Limbaugh, but his off the cuff comments were VERY quickly revised after a commercial interruption. Even the most liberal democrat has to admit that it is possible for politicians to try to make a situation look worse/better than it is, so it is entirely possible that MJ’s symptoms were some how manipulated, and if you get to the core of what Rush was trying to convey you will understand that. Just look at the “mission accomplished” banner on the aircraft carrier that President Bush flew onto…I’m sure no democrat would tell me that the republicans weren’t trying to influence people with that banner, since the Iraq war is a disaster and no where near accomplished.


  47. JohnGalt Says:

    Consider Rush’s frequent guest from the White House, and how Rush might be being used as a mouthpiece.

    When Rush visited Bush 41, he promised he would continue to be as hard on politicians polictically right as on those who were to the left, despite his enjoyment of the Bush’s hospitality together around the fireplace in the oval office. My take is that he has become increasingly less balanced in his abuse of politicians.

    Perhaps his imbalance relates the obvious issue with medications. He is lucky to have strong support, or his legal outcome with drug abuses (opium derivatives and sexual aids) might not have been as light.

    I’m afraid he has more that half of his brain tied up.


  48. Robert Owen Says:

    I agree with Rush. Michael is a self-involved actor. He will be dead in a normal life span before the stem cell research can be effective, if at all, for his condition. He is like a cannibal. He would consume other lives (unborn babies) to make his life more tolerable, and, since it is RESEARCH such efforts probably will not be successful. He is bitter because he felt he had the world by the tail because of his acting success, only to be unable to enjoy that success by the condition of his body. The research he wants can be done privately now, but that rich actor wants me to help pay for it through my federal taxes and take actions which I find to be immoral.


  49. JaneESchneider Says:

    Rush Baby (ew, it’s creepy even typing that!), the only statement MJF seems to be making is that he is hoping that stem cell research might find a cure, and that Ms. McCaskill feels the same way and will vote for real stem cell research.

    MJF has the same right to free speech as any American (for now, anyway), and has every right to publicly endorse a candidate who is concerned about illnesses that afflict millions, and who is willing to try to do something about it. Would you rather have seen, say Ronald Reagan Jr. in the ad, because he’s ‘political’?


  50. Johnny+Lib Says:

    Were the Republicans being opportunistic with Terry Schiavo?

    She was brain dead but that didn’t stop them!


  51. D Knight Says:

    Oh for Pete’s sake, Douglas G.

    Sinemet, the drug most often prescribed for Parkinsons, is known to have a rebound effect, i.e. it works great for a while, then doesn’t work so great. So a patient on Sinemet can respond fabulously for a period of time, and then the medication becomes less effective, or not effective at all.

    At this point the patient has to go on a “drug holiday” wherein meds are changed up to compensate. Monitoring Parkinson’s meds is an ongoing process that patients have to deal with DAILY - it’s a balancing act. Some days the meds work great, some days the meds don’t work at all.

    In fact, if you listened to the video, Mr. Fox says, “my pills are working really well right now.” Right now. But that’s not to say that they’ll work so good tomorrow.

    You don’t just say, “Pop a pill and feel better.” It doesn’t work that way. There’s no guarantee the pill will work. And there is no cure. But that’s rather the point Mr. Fox was trying to make.

    I don’t have Parkinsons, but I do have a severe case of PLMD and have done the whole Sinemet thing. Trust me, it’s hell. You want to believe the prescribed treatment will work, and when it doesn’t … well, it’s beyond frustrating.

    So Dougie Boy, next time you got something to say, you might want to check your facts and make sure it’s worth hearing.

    As to Rush - shame on him. I can’t even imagine picking on ANYONE who has to live with such a nightmare every day - regardless of your politics.

    How sad that some people are so insensitive to the suffering of others.


  52. RealScientist Says:

    Well, we already have Douglas G., Rush Baby, and Storm representing the Dittoheads of America, and now we get the professional Limbaugh spokesperson CantSeeTheForestForTheTrees to stomach. I feel like I need a shower after reading their comments.


  53. Republicans are the fear and smear party Says:

    Why doesn’t Limpballs just call Fox a “baby killer” and get it over with.


  54. RealScientist Says:

    He is like a cannibal. He would consume other lives (unborn babies) to make his life more tolerable, and, since it is RESEARCH such efforts probably will not be successful. He is bitter because he felt he had the world by the tail because of his acting success, only to be unable to enjoy that success by the condition of his body.
    Comment by Robert Owen — October 25, 2006 @ 11:14 am

    …and…this freak. Yikes.


  55. ktpinnacle Says:

    Fox is not pushing a democrat - he is pushing for a cure, and a leader who will assist in providing a path toward that cure.

    I am quite certain that if a Repub had the intrest in finding a cure as quickly as possible, he would have no problem pushing for that option.

    And I’m also quite certain that he is doing this not for himself, but for others that will be afflicated with this disease, and others. I believe that he knows he will succumb to this disease.

    Opportunistic, sure. But not purely politically. And certainly not in the same hateful, personal, Red and Blue way that Limbaugh pushes.


  56. Bruce+Gorton Says:

    Robert Owen

    Okay, if you are going to call it immoral, I sure hope you never need a transplant or a blood transfusion, like, ever. Oh, and I do hope that if you feel so strongly about this, that you and your family goes down to a fertility Clinic and adopts all of those spare, unused fertalised embryos, after all, if it is murder to use them constructively what must you think of incinerating them?

    Johnny+Lib

    Of course not, you may call her braindead, but the Republicans call that their base.


  57. Johnny+Lib Says:

    Bruce Gordon @ 61

    Thanks for the laugh!


  58. watershed Says:

    We all know what Rush said, but have you seen this?

    [url]http://newsbusters.org/media/2006-10-24-NBCNNMitchell.wmv[/url]

    It’s video of Rush literally physically mocking Fox’s symptoms.

    How can anyone defend that?


  59. Preznit+Pinhead Says:

    Seriously, I wonder if Rush was faking the big pimple on his ass that got him out of serving in Vietnam? Inquiring minds want to know.


  60. Govt. Mule Says:

    #48

    All he does is apologize. That don’t make it right.

    He apologized for being an oxycotin head.
    He apologized for being a fat-ass liar.
    He apologized for his comments about drug addicts (when he was actually one)
    He apologized for making fun of a terminally ill actor
    etc…….

    How about “F” Rush … apology’s not accepted.

    This guy makes a career off saying idiotic things that border on Hate Crimes (IMO)
    He deserves to get some paralyzing disease where he foams from the mouth and craps his pants all day … then we can roll a news crew down there and all have a good laugh.


  61. RealScientist Says:

    How can anyone defend that?

    Comment by watershed — October 25, 2006 @ 11:30 am

    The trolls will find a way.


  62. watershed Says:

    Whoops. Try again.


  63. Johnny+Lib Says:

    Watershed @ 63

    http://newsbusters.org/ media/ 2006-10-24-NBCNNMitchell.wmv

    You are correct. It is indefensible!

    WATCH IT!


  64. Republicans are the fear and smear party Says:

    Did Limpballs ever demonize Nancy Reagan for her support of embryonic stem cell research? Like, “She’s faking her love for her husband.” If he hasn’t gone after her yet, he has some catching up to do.


  65. watershed Says:

    I can’t leave a proper link, sorry, two times a failure. Oh well. Cut and paste.


  66. Rick Walton Says:

    I have Parkinson’s. Fox is my hero. It’s not easy going out in public when you have these symptoms. Most Parkinson’s patients hide away. But Fox has decided, and I agree, that the best way to get people to recognize the need for medical research is to show what the disease really does. Christopher Reeve, Dick Clark, Josh Blue, anyone with a disease or disability who comes out and shows the world what they’re dealing with is heroic. By being a public face for Parkinson’s, Fox gives me hope that I won’t have to live with this horrible condition for the rest of my life.


  67. NoNameNeeded Says:

    Off-topic:

    Reading everyone’s comments makes me embarassed to be an American. Partisan lunatics make fools of themselves, and divide us as a nation. “Democrats use smear tactics, and they have no morals” and “Republicans use smear tactics, and have no basis of reality”

    Being lead by EITHER party is stupid on behalf of the individual. Make up your own f**kin decisions! People seem to make decisions based on what “their party” is deciding. It’s so f**kin annoying!

    REPUBLICANS ARE NOT BETTER THAN DEMOCRATS! AND DEMOCRATS ARE NOT BETTER THAN REPUBLICANS! Partisanship is STUPID, so please quit making fool of yourself! We’re Americans, we’re supposed to be individuals, and we SHOULD be ok with that!


  68. chimpeach Says:

    #49 CantSeeTheForestForTheTrees

    I’ve listened to his show, but there’s only so much I can take. Rush and his admirers don’t live in a reality-based world. They don’t like facts, because facts ruin a good story. Rush tells his stories and his fans love to hear them. When Rush wants to add a little air of credibility to his story to make it sound like it really is true, he throws in some statistics. The problem is that he pulls those statistics out of his ass. There is no source for them other than that. Actual (factual) statistics don’t support his argument, so he doesn’t use them.

    All you dittoheads care about is a good story that backs up your hatred for this cartoon character that you call “liberal”. You don’t really know anyone like that, but Rush has you believing that all Democrats are liberals and all liberals do this or that. I’ll let you in on a little secret here. Rush’s entire schtick consists of this: No matter what the issue is, political or not, he first decides which side he’s on. Then he declares there to be a “conservative” side to it and a “liberal” side to it. Then he criticizes all opposing views on that subject by calling them liberal. Once he’s done that, his dittoheads don’t even have to listen anymore. They now know what’s good (consevative) and what’s bad (liberal). No thinking required.

    You’re asking us to be open-minded about Rush? You’ve just defined insanity.


  69. Jason Says:

    Way to be honest think progress. I notice you conveniently leave out the fact he retracted his statement and apologized 15 mins after making this statement. He apologized on air because the “evil conservatives” who are his listeners informed him he was wrong.


  70. Demogod Says:

    Rush sucks….maybe we can get lucky and he will come down with the disease.


  71. watershed Says:

    Jason #74

    Please refer to the video of Rush mocking Fox’s symptoms at #68 and tell us again how his actions are simply retractable.


  72. Johnnie Crunch Says:

    Christ will punish Limbaugh. I can’t wait to see him burning in hell.


  73. Mark Says:

    The point is whether Michael J. Fox is using his celebrity to make
    unsubstantiable political statements. That is the question.
    Comment by Rush Baby
    Rush apologized in the very next segment. Get over it.
    Comment by Storms
    Like any of us Michael J Fox has every right to speak out. Some have said that celebrities should use the power of their position to effect positive change. He is simply stumping for candidates who are willing to support efforts that could someday lead to a cure or better treatment for his disease.
    I suppose if he made the exact same commercial, but supporting a Republican who opposes stem cell research and changed the message to say that stem cell research was bad in spite of his illness, then there would be no hate at all from the right. Nope they would hold him up as being a celebrity who has it all but is willing to be accountable to his faith etc…
    Rush may have apologized, but he knew from the moment he said it that regardless of what came next, the allegations would be out there. Even with an apology you can never fully recover the effects of an allegation. Heck look at the reactions of Rush supporters here, and these are not the most virulent supporters out there. Toss in that Rush was mocking Fox’s disease and physical movements, and the apology sounds more and more half hearted.

    Rush’s actions are absolutely undefendable, yet here are his people defending him. One more reason republicans shoudl not be in control of anything.


  74. Fran Parkinhgton Says:

    …These are Americacans talking…Sad to see a nation with so much ill intent and false piousness ruling over so many good and honest folks


  75. BatGuano Says:

    78 — The defenders of Rush, Bush, etc. are zombies. The living dead. If you run into one, check for a pulse, or body warmth. They never blink. Above all, don’t let one bite you!


  76. DRxJ Says:

    Rush’s apology included the infamous quote, “If that were true (that Fox was taking his medicine), then I apologize.

    THIS IS NOT AN APOLOGY
    It leaves doubt in the dittohead’s mind (and heck, that’s all they need)

    THIS IS AN APOLOGY

    I, because of misinformation, herby retract my statements from an earlier broadcast. I clearly was not aware that Mr. Fox was, in fact, taking his meds to counter the awful disease know as PD. Unfortunately, a major side effect is tremors, and uncontrolled movement, especially in the extremities, as well as others. I sincerely apologize to Mr. Fox, and to all those who do suffer from PD. I will be sure and do my reasearch in the future before making such comments. Thank you, and God Bless


  77. Johnny+Lib Says:

    “Now people are telling me they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial,” Limbaugh said, according to a transcript on his Web site. “All right then, I stand corrected. . . . So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act.”

    - from the Washington Post

    This is NOT an apology. This is a “non-apology.”


  78. calscientist Says:

    Why did the anchor NOT mention that the rally was for Tammy Duckworth?


  79. chimpeach Says:

    #72 NoNameNeeded

    I can understand the confusion. Having been born only yesterday, you cetainly couldn’t be expected to understand that there are actually two definitions of bipartisanship.

    There’s the Democratic definition, which means both parties working together trying to arrive at mutually agreeable solutions to our nation’s pressing problems for the benefit of all of its citizens.

    And there’s the Republicans’ definition: “We’ll make all the decisions and if the Democrats will simply go along with all of them, we can call it bipartisanship.”

    I hope that helps clear it up for you. It makes you look a little bit silly trying to blame this mess equally on Democrats and Republicans. It’s sort of like seeing a person getting mugged and saying “Hey you guys, knock off the rough stuff. I don’t care who started it. Just knock it off.”


  80. RealScientist Says:

    I notice you conveniently leave out the fact he retracted his statement and apologized 15 mins after making this statement. Comment by Jason — October 25, 2006 @ 11:44 am

    And the Rush defenders keep rushing in. What Rush did was despicable, and defending it is despicable.


  81. BatGuano Says:

    Rush is actually responsible for the right’s culture based on disingenuous misinformation, the unwillingness to commit to informed one-on-one debate. Rush sits in his studio and has “debates” with Fox, Clinton (both of them), Pelosi, etc. and is always “right” because no one is there to respond. Like a kid alone in a field with a football pretending he’s making the winning Superbowl touchdown. Except in Rush’s case he’s got a bunch of other kids watching and cheering his win. It’s sick, stupid, and immature.


  82. RealScientist Says:

    REPUBLICANS ARE NOT BETTER THAN DEMOCRATS! AND DEMOCRATS ARE NOT BETTER THAN REPUBLICANS!
    Comment by NoNameNeeded — October 25, 2006 @ 11:42 am

    let’s just say that I would be very, very surprised were I to learn that this person isn’t a Republican


  83. Mark Says:

    #77 if you can see him burning in hell then that means you are close enough to watch.


  84. Johnny+Lib Says:

    RealScientist @ 87

    I’d eat my hat!


  85. Matt Nilsen Says:

    You know, even if you are a conservative thinker, you can see that Limbaugh used deplorable judgement. He is completely speculating about Fox’s situation. I write about Parkinson’s disease all the time, and have many good sincere friends in the Parkinson’s community. Even if Fox did not take his meds, he is portraying a very stark reality. He is speaking for millions that have PD world-wide.

    1 - Many people living with Parkinson’s have arrived at a point where medications have little effect on symptoms. Fox gives us insight into the population’s situation, not just his.

    2 - Most people in the US, Canada, and some other countires have reasonable access to medications. However, there are millions of people in world that just do not have the means to purchase basic Parkinson’s medications. Earlier this year, at the World Parkinson congress I met a neurologist from Chile. He works hard to help his patients get the basic Parkinson’s disease medication - levadopa. However, most of his patients just cannot afford any of the other miraculous medications that help fine tune to their needs. Funny thing how he probably doesn’t get a lot of lunches brought in by drug reps.

    Michael J Fox shows a small dose of insight into the constant lives of a people with Parkinson’s in Chile, India, Zambia, Mexico, Iraq and most of the countries in the world.


  86. Demogod Says:

    Rush needs to do a commercial for drug addicts. Im sure he will take his meds!!


  87. Bruce+Gorton Says:

    RealScientist

    If he is, after a statement like that he had better vote independent.


  88. markan Says:

    Rush Limbaugh is the biggest freaking cock-sucker in the USA. Why do you think he has been able to get away with so many crimes that the average joe would have been locked away in prinson for years. Yet he is still on the streets and being respected. He is probably the best cock-sucker there ever was.


  89. TheToonGuy Says:

    #87 - It always amazes me how these folks can be so cynical and naive at the same time. How is it that the following two statements invariably come out of the same misinformed mouth?

    “All politicians are crooks and will say or do anything to get your vote.”
    “I will continue to support politician because he supports my values.”

    It just goes to show you that right wing authoritarian followers will say anything in their unending need to have their beliefs validated.

    It’s sad, really.


  90. Johnny+Lib Says:

    “Rush needs to do a commercial for drug addicts. Im sure he will take his meds!!”

    Rush is a commercial for drug addicts!


  91. Bruce+Gorton Says:

    TheToonGuy

    I’ll take a bash:

    They honestly believe that all politicians are crooks, and their values just happen to be crooked - so why bother changing who they vote for?


  92. Matt Livingstone Says:

    What is REALLY wrong with this whole mess is that people like Mr. Limbaugh including big media continue to ABUSE THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES.

    We seem to think that these people and corporations own the airwave and they DON’T! We the PEOPLE own the airwaves and if these people like Rush and that flippin’ idiot O’Reilly continue to ABUSE the airwaves with unfounded attacks and smearing the reputations of anyone they see fit then the companies they work for should LOSE THEIR LICENSE! PERIOD!

    Enough is enough!


  93. Cindy Says:

    I am appalled at Limpballs comments! Limpballs just proves the biggest hypocrites are Republicans and their supporters! He should be the poster child for Planned Parenthood. We need to find out who his advertisers are and send them a letter to the CEO’s letting them know we are going to BOYCOTT their products as long as they run their ads on his radio show!


  94. bluefish Says:

    I agree with Rush. Michael is a self-involved actor. He will be dead in a normal life span before the stem cell research can be effective, if at all, for his condition. He is like a cannibal. He would consume other lives (unborn babies) to make his life more tolerable, and, since it is RESEARCH such efforts probably will not be successful. He is bitter because he felt he had the world by the tail because of his acting success, only to be unable to enjoy that success by the condition of his body. The research he wants can be done privately now, but that rich actor wants me to help pay for it through my federal taxes and take actions which I find to be immoral.

    Comment by Robert Owen — October 25, 2006 @ 11:14 am

    Thank you, Robert. Your post is a shining beacon of “compassionate conservatism.” You are duly noted as one of the 30%.


  95. James Says:

    Limbaugh treads where all repugs tread — in the slime.

    This is one of their favorite tactics; say something known to be a lie, then back away with an apology. Meanwhile, the first impact makes the most noise.

    How many times did we hear in the Iraq invasion that WMD’s had been found? Each time, the “apology” or “retraction” was buried deep on page 7, so that John Q. Public only remembers the headlines. There are STILL idiots out there who believe this drivel.

    We should boycott Limpball’s advertisers. Right now, there are plenty of Americans (not just liberals) who are outraged by this.


  96. barfly Says:

    And there’s the Republicans’ definition: “We’ll make all the decisions and if the Democrats will simply go along with all of them, we can call it bipartisanship.” Chimpeach

    Matt Taibbi said it best. The republicans’ current definition of bipartisanship is “take that, b*tch!”


  97. Demogod Says:

    Vote Democrat so we can impeach the pres for all the lies and deception. He needs to pay. Its sad that most Americans dont care if they are manipulated like that. Rush is his best ally on the war on American people.


  98. Reuben Says:

    Rush is a douchbag that needs to be wiped off the earth. This is the guy who also said that I don’t know who Hitler is.


  99. Dog_named_Boo Says:

    FLUSH DIMBULB!
    B^P


  100. Republicans are the fear and smear party Says:

    Since you Rush cheerleaders think discarded embryos are babies, why don’t you just call Fox a “baby-killer”? Are you afraid that would make you look looney?


  101. Douglas+G. Says:

    My facts are straight ASSHOLES! It’s also a symptom of NOT taking the medicine if you care to take time to research this. I guess that’s asking too much you want to bash someone too much to take that time.

    As for not taking the meds, from those that asked about it, there are reports on ABC, CBS, and CNN that all state the same, he admitted to NOT taking the meds before the commercial.


  102. Dog_named_Boo Says:

    I agree with Rush. Michael is a self-involved actor. He will be dead in a normal life span before the stem cell research can be effective, if at all, for his condition. He is like a cannibal. He would consume other lives (unborn babies) to make his life more tolerable, and, since it is RESEARCH such efforts probably will not be successful. He is bitter because he felt he had the world by the tail because of his acting success, only to be unable to enjoy that success by the condition of his body. The research he wants can be done privately now, but that rich actor wants me to help pay for it through my federal taxes and take actions which I find to be immoral.

    Comment by Robert Owen

    These Blastocysts they speak of are currently frozen Robert, what kind of life is that? Do you want to spend an eternity cryogenically frozen. Not to mention they have developed ways of getting a cell without harming the blastocyst. When you get old and develop parkinsons remember this day. Your worried about taxes when Bush is straddling you with debt at the rate of 3 billion a week to bomb adobe houses and poor people?


  103. Douglas+G. Says:

    BTW, comment 27 was not me, just some idiot who is unable to articulate for themselves, and is probably a contemptable person in real life too.


  104. tom+baker Says:

    People wouldn’t watch pro wrestling if it wasn’t real, and they wouldn’t listen to Rush if he wasn’t a brilliant political theorist.

    HA!! - listen to the morons defend their drugged up cult leader!! Talk about low, talk about people I wouldn’t piss on if they were on fire….listen to them trying to say that MJ Fox can’t have political opinions ”cause he’s an actor” (Arnold, anyone?, Reagan, anyone?)

    First off, anyone who listens to Rush at all is a pathetic goof. Second of all, RUsh is a drugged up pathetic goof. Third, Republicans have all the morality that dogs have, and no more. If any of them had any sense whatsoever, they’d be ashamed of themselves, but they’re incapable of that - check out the sociopaths that have posted their fecal jibes on this thread - I could smell the poop from the other room. Soon as any of you are ready for a real-life beating, look me up.


  105. Timtimes Says:

    Why is Rush still on the air? Haven’t other people been forced off the PUBLIC AIRWAVES for stuff like this? I don’t mean in a Howard Stern type of way either (supposed indecency). I’m talking about people being EVICTED from the microphone for offenses far less objectionable. That this guy is being listened to by anybody is sad. What’s tragic is that he’s being promoted by corporate titans. This type of act ought to be broadcasting on CB channel 23 out of a trailer in rural Alabama.

    Enjoy.


  106. TheToonGuy Says:

    Boy, I’d sure like to see that. But in all of my searches, I can’t find any of these “admissions” that you’re claiming, Doug. How about you post some links to the articles on these networks sites to prove your point? If you can’t find them, will you admit that (like Rush) you might be wrong?


  107. Dog_named_Boo Says:

    This type of act ought to be broadcasting on CB channel 23 out of a trailer in rural Alabama.

    Enjoy.

    Comment by Timtimes

    Limbaugh reminds me of that scene where Dr.Evil is on the Springer show and the KKK guy [Dimbulb] accuses Dr.Evil of being some kind of freak.


  108. DRxJ Says:

    My facts are straight ASSHOLES!
    Comment by Douglas+G. — October 25, 2006 @ 12:36 pm

    Absolutely a wonderful way to start of a debate! your intelligence just shines on and on…
    It’s also a symptom of NOT taking the medicine if you care to take time to research this.
    so you actually believe he was acting out symptoms of his disease! You truly are a dittohead idiot (again, this from someone who really tries to refrain from name-calling)

    there are reports on ABC, CBS, and CNN that all state the same, he admitted to NOT taking the meds before the commercial.
    and you get this reliable source from….Drugde, Rightwingnews, Redstate?
    Back it up son, or STFU!


  109. bonesTwo Says:

    I believe that Rush used horrible judgement by insinuating that Fox was off his meds no matter how factual that turned out to be, it was an insensitive thing to say about someone who genuinely cares about his cause - finding a cure to Parkinsons. I do think it is fair to criticize Fox’s position, becuase no matter how persuasive it is for someone with parkinson’s disease to cut an ad - it does not make his position factually accurate. That is what Rush should have stuck with becuase it would have made his point - now the media will just focus on the meds comments and allow all to dismiss the rest of the argument - whether this cloning bill in MO will allow more or less advancement of a cure IS DEBATABLE, that’s the only fact.

    Oh - and stem cell research is being done in MO as I type this. Private enterprise has done an excellent job at advancing stem cell reserach - because it works. Embryonic stem cell reseach is generally being ignored by capital markets due to the great success of Adult Stem Cell research. So these organizations want to use FEDERAL dollars to advance THEIR cauase, and frankly, I’m not up for my $$ to be used for that cause - so I vote against it no matter who has the disease - closely related or not.


  110. Johnny+Lib Says:

    Douglas G.@106

    Please provide us with links to the ABC, CBS and CNN stories you are referring to.

    You won’t be able to because they DO NOT exist!


  111. glbeach Says:

    It is not particularly unfortunate that Rush Limbaugh would say such ridiculous balderdash - face it he is a shameless self-promoter and will say anything he thinks will generate advertising revenue for his thinly-masked hate show. What is TERRIBLY UNFORTUNATE can be categorized in two ways:

    1. That educated people would listen to such tripe and take it seriously (honestly, Limbaugh should have an audience of one - he can listen to himself in the shower).

    2. That the intellectual level of so many people is apparently low enough they would listen to - accept, and believe - such an idiot. (Remember, this is the guy Dr. shopping for pain pills, then whining because he believes his rights are violated. The same hatemonger that has no problem bashing others.)


  112. Douglas+G. Says:

    Comment by DRxJ —, sry, MY comment was in response to # 25.

    I didn’t start out using that kind of language, was responding to those who ONLY understand that language.

    To you and those who would debate without stooping low, I apologize.


  113. waiting4 a cure Says:

    Let us not seek the Republican answer or the Democratic answer, but the right answer. Let us not seek to fix the blame for the past. Let us accept our own responsibility for the future.
    John F. Kennedy

    Truth: Stem cell research does not require dicing up unborn babies. umbillical cord tissue + lood can be used instead uof thrown away!All it requires is for the zippered bible people get their heads out of their butts.


  114. Beatswork2 Says:

    “Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see” Where is Air America to counter Russ? Oh I am sorry, Air America has went bankrupt because no one will finance their Lib. half truths.


  115. ExplosiveDog.Com : Rush Limbaugh is more Ignorant than I thought Says:

    […] I know this is a little off topic for my blog, but it really ticks me off when people with power speak about subjects to which they are so naive.  From thinkprogress.com, “On Monday, Rush Limbaugh accused actor Michael J. Fox of faking symptoms of Parkinson’s disease in advertisements supporting stem cell research.”  I don’t want to even start on how wrong he is on this, but he obviously doesn’t know much about Young Onset Parkinson’s Disease.  I watched my father get Young Onset Parkinson’s Disease in his 30’s, live with it for 20 years, and then die from it.  I wouldn’t wish Parkinson’s on my worst enemy, maybe I would wish it on someone who thinks the symptoms are “acting.”  I hate to even post something that would give someone this ignorant the slightest bit of publicity, but I had to get it off my chest, so there.P.S. The story is also on Digg if you want to voice your opinion. Posted: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:05 PM by Page Brooks […]


  116. jake3988 Says:

    I can’t watch the video, as I don’t have flash.

    But… not going off in a profane tirade about how much of a jackass Rush is would be really hard to do.


  117. Jeremy+Henderson Says:

    This is awfully hypocritical of Rush, accusing another man of faking the symptoms of his disease. Rush is clearly faking his erectile disfunction symptoms, since everyone knows that you actually need genitalia to suffer from that particular condition.


  118. ObjectiveReader Says:

    Who’s jumping to conclusions, looking foolish? Rush? You?

    From: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/ home/ daily/ site_102406/ content/ rush_is_right.guest.html
    RUSH: All right, people are asking for the cite, that’s c-i-t-e. This would be Michael J. Fox, an excerpt from his book “Lucky Man” June 1, 2002. Here is what he writes regarding his appearance before a Senate appropriations subcommittee hearing in Washington on September 28th, 1999: “I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease and the urgency we as a community were feeling be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling,” as it was for me when I saw the commercial he was running in Missouri, because I had never seen him that way before, ever, and I got numerous e-mails from people saying he had said that he does this: goes off the medication to illustrate the ravages of the disease to people and so it’s in his own book, that he admits doing this.


  119. ObjectiveReader Says:

    Who’s jumping to conclusions, looking foolish? Rush? You?

    From: Rush’s website:
    RUSH: All right, people are asking for the cite, that’s c-i-t-e. This would be Michael J. Fox, an excerpt from his book “Lucky Man” June 1, 2002. Here is what he writes regarding his appearance before a Senate appropriations subcommittee hearing in Washington on September 28th, 1999: “I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease and the urgency we as a community were feeling be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling,” as it was for me when I saw the commercial he was running in Missouri, because I had never seen him that way before, ever, and I got numerous e-mails from people saying he had said that he does this: goes off the medication to illustrate the ravages of the disease to people and so it’s in his own book, that he admits doing this.


  120. JohnGalt Says:

    Question for 114: please consider if Rush’s comment was an error in judgement, or execution of an intentional ploy.

    I submit that it was more likely an intentional ‘ad hominem’ attack: people who favor Fox’s line of thinking are weak and feeble, because Fox appears weak and feeble.


  121. Johnny+Lib Says:

    ObjectiveReader:

    Parkinson’s is a progressive desease. That hearing was 7 years ago.

    Where, again, is the evidence that he went without his meds before he shot these recent commercials?


  122. abram’s nickels » Blog Archive » Michael J. Fox gets accused of “faking it,” responds quickly Says:

    […] Links: Rush Limbaugh On the Offensive Against Ad With Michael J. Fox VIDEO: Michael J. Fox Responds To Limbaugh Smear […]


  123. chimpeach Says:

    #108 Douglas G.

    BTW, comment 27 was not me, just some idiot who is unable to articulate for themselves, and is probably a contemptable person in real life too.

    Sounds like a damn good imitation to me.


  124. Pollywogs! » Blog Archive » More fat bastard links… Says:

    […] It's purely an act - Now, was Rush the one that's a megalomaniacal phone-sex enthusiast, or was Rush the one who loved his heroin Oxycontin?   […]


  125. bonesTwo Says:

    My Answer to 125. Please remember that Rush Limbaugh did not start this, Michael J Fox cut the ad with the allegations - true or not, and had to know that a response was coming. He probably wasnt expecting Rush to take up Talant’s cause, but Rush is part of the informal conservative cheerleading team in a heavily contested race, and anyone surrounding the production of the ad had to know it was going to be controversial.

    So - my official answer to your question is that I actually think it was intentional on the DEM party to cause a rucus to take talant off message of tax cuts (over 6m new jobs in last 36 months) and war on terror.


  126. TheToonGuy Says:

    In case anyone wants to put that snippet in context, here’s more of it from the Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson’s Research: http://www.michaeljfox.org/news/article.php?id=5

    As Johnny Lib has pointed out, that was 7 years ago when the effects were mild compared to today. As Michael points out at the beginning of the exerpt, he has “on” days and “off” days where the meds just seem to work and he’s in complete control and other days when the Parkinson’s has complete control.

    Can you imagine living like that? Trapped inside your own body, unable to do even the simplest of tasks? If you knew there was a possibility for a cure, wouldn’t you do everything in your power to see it happen? Finally, would you want that cure to be made available to everyone or just to those who can afford the outrageous fees that big pharma wants?

    Who do you care for - your fellow man or your wallet?


  127. TheToonGuy Says:

    So - my official answer to your question is that I actually think it was intentional on the DEM party to cause a rucus to take talant off message of tax cuts (over 6m new jobs in last 36 months) and war on terror.

    Comment by bonesTwo

    Yep, 6 million minimum wage jobs that won’t lift a family above the poverty level and a “war” that continues to leave our ports and vulnerable power and chemical plants defenseless. Yes, let’s talk about that, shall we?


  128. bonesTwo Says:

    We can talk about it all day, becuase it gets republicans elected. If what you were saying is true, then why the last minute parkinsons ad from a movie star? Why not make it a referendum on economy or war on terror? I’ll tell you why they won’t, becuase not everybody believes the nuttery that you do. That’s why they are trying to change the subject with this ad…..


  129. ObjectiveReader Says:

    The date of the senate talk where he skipped the medications is not relevant. Rush’s point still stands, that is, it is entirely plausible that Fox’s actions were deliberate - and thus, not ’shielded’ from discussion. Right or wrong, Fox is respectable and Rush is intelligent. I think this whole thing is blown out of proportion. It wasn’t a smear. It may or may not have been exaggerated. It doesn’t really matter.


  130. bonesTwo Says:

    OH - and by the way, I own a small business and employ many people, none of which I pay minimum wage. Not becuase I wouldnt either, just that you can’t find quality people who will work for it, so you pay more to get better people. It’s called the law of supply and demand, and it is core to the concept of capitalism that drives this country forward.

    If you are making minimum wage, you likely deserve it.


  131. TheToonGuy Says:

    You didn’t answer my question.

    Who do you care for - your fellow man or your wallet?


  132. Bonded Says:

    What is apalling is that anyone gives a rip about what Limbaugh said about Fox anymore than anyone should care about what any of us feel about Limbaugh. This is pointless!
    Does anyone care about the political issue concerning this backdoor approach to legalize cloning in Missouri? This is another example of the press reacting to the sensational and totally missing what should be the real issue. But here we are; sheep being led astray to slaughter.


  133. bonesTwo Says:

    If you knew there was a possibility for a cure, wouldn’t you do everything in your power to see it happen?

    No. we have the ability to do a lot of things, not all of which are legal or moral, and I would not be willing to do EVERYTHING in my power. I would be willing to do anything within the law to find a cure. I would also be willing to do whatever I could to encourage legislation that helped me reach this end.


  134. Johnny+Lib Says:

    There is an underlying current from those who accuse Michael J. Fox of acting or going without his medication in his recent political ads. And that is “he is only doing it so a cure can be found to Parkinson‘s disease to save his own life.”

    If a cure could be discovered so quickly, it would be a miracle! I have to believe that Fox is thinking of future victims of the disease when he is advocating for stem cell research. But leave it to the opponents of science to paint him as selfish.


  135. chimpeach Says:

    135

    If you are making minimum wage, you likely deserve it.

    Or, in the case of towns where local businesses were driven out by Wal-Mart, it’s the only place you can find work.


  136. TheToonGuy Says:

    I would also be willing to do whatever I could to encourage legislation that helped me reach this end.

    Comment by bonesTwo

    So you admit that Fox’s approach of campaigning for candidates that support stem cell research is something that you yourself would do in a similar situation.


  137. chimpeach Says:

    #137 Bonded

    Does anyone care about the political issue concerning this backdoor approach to legalize cloning in Missouri?

    Only the people who invented that issue, the righties. There is no such issue or interest or intent on the part of people who are trying to help the cause of embryonic stem cell research. Why do you want to keep 400,000 embryos frozen forever? Isn’t that basically the same thing as killing them? Are they really alive if they’re frozen forever? Think about it.


  138. bonesTwo Says:

    Right. It’s all WalMart’s fault. Of course.


  139. TheToonGuy Says:

    Or, in the case of towns where local businesses were driven out by Wal-Mart, it’s the only place you can find work.

    Exactly. When the place you work at gets closed down because the CEOs think they can make a profit by shipping the work out to a company overseas, what do you do? Where do you go? When there are 1000 applicants for each job at Walmart, where will you find the money to feed your family?


  140. Bruce+Gorton Says:

    Johnny+Lib

    I more think of it as:

    What is wrong with that? Is wanting a cure to a disease which you are dying from now a bad thing!?!?!?


  141. chimpeach Says:

    #143 bonesTwo

    Right. It’s all WalMart’s fault. Of course.

    I was just offering an exception to your declaration.

    Sensitive, aren’t we?


  142. Dataghost Says:

    Let’s face the facts here in this matter. MJF has Parkinson’s Disease. A side effect of the medication itself is tardive dyskinesia. Did MJF overexagerate his movements? Probably not. What was the point of stopping taking his meds (if this is indeed the fact)

    I think the point is an obvious one. Medication side effects are about as debilitating as the disease itself. Just because there is a medication out there that can lessen symptoms of Parkinson’s doesn’t mean that taking them is a cure-all by any stretch of the imagination.

    Watch the ad and understand as to what is really the true message of the ad itself as portrayed by MJF, meds alone are not the answer. Hell, for many meds just raise more questions as to whether there is something that can be done for Parkinson’s sufferers. POINT WELL MADE Michael!


  143. Unholy+Moses Says:

    So - my official answer to your question is that I actually think it was intentional on the DEM party to cause a rucus to take talant off message of tax cuts (over 6m new jobs in last 36 months) and war on terror.

    WRONG!

    I called McCaskill’s campaign and the Fox foundation about the commercial last night for my site.

    Fox first contacted McCaskill back in July after he heard her response the PoTUS radio message (right before he used his veto against the bi-partisan supported stem cell bill).

    After he did a fundrasier for her a few weeks ago, he called her campaign again to offer to help. So he suggested the ad and then produced it himself.

    So any suggestion that the Dems are using him is a lie. How in the hell can a person use themself?


  144. Gov Says:

    You guys are so naive. MJF has said he has stop taken his meds in the past to illustrate the affects of his disease. Keep drinking the kool-aid guys. What flavor is it this week?


  145. David Busch Says:

    If you know anthing about Parkinson’s, you will know that Fox was faking it.


  146. TheToonGuy Says:

    If you know anthing about Parkinson’s, you will know that Fox was faking it.

    Comment by David Busch

    Troll


  147. Rick+Walton Says:

    I know about Parkinson’s. I have it. Fox isn’t faking.


  148. chimpeach Says:

    Well, one thing is certainly clear. All this sudden troll activity means the Republicans are scared shitless over the way voters will view their opposition to stem cell research. Rush was sent out to put a hit on Fox and it backfired. Now the trolls are desperately trying to drag his mammoth ass out of the fire. Good luck.

    Rail #3: Social Security OR embryonic stem cell research


  149. Johnny+Lib Says:

    Bruce+Gorton,

    It’s certainly not a bad thing, no. But Rush and his supporters make MJF out to be some kind of bad guy who is only out for himself. I think he has concern for all those who could benefit from stem cell research. That was my point.


  150. Johnny+Lib Says:

    “Now the trolls are desperately trying to drag his mammoth ass out of the fire.”

    Gonna need a Chinook helicopter for that job!


  151. chimpeach Says:

    #149 Gov

    You guys are so naive. MJF has said he has stop taken his meds in the past to illustrate the affects of his disease. Keep drinking the kool-aid guys. What flavor is it this week?

    Drinking kool-aid. That’s fresh.

    I think we’ve already established that “the past” as you put it was seven years ago and his condition has changed since then. Regardless, it means nothing in the context of this ad. Prove he stopped taking his meds or STFU.


  152. Ceralor Says:

    I’d love to know what disability Douglas G. has that allows him to be like this.


  153. pr Says:

    Robert Owen you are a half wit! So you do not want your taxes used for immoral purposes! I suppose waging a unprovoked war is moral, war profiteering is moral, killing 650,000 Iraquis is moral (all paid for by our tax dollars). The only thing that matters to you morons are embryos and fetuses.


  154. chimpeach Says:

    #157 Ceralor

    I’d love to know what disability Douglas G. has that allows him to be like this.

    I believe it’s called “cranial rectumitis”.


  155. chimpeach Says:

    #158 pr

    The only thing that matters to you morons are embryos and fetuses.

    Aw c’mon. Be fair now. They care about people in a persistent vegetative state, too.


  156. bonesTwo Says:

    The bottom line is that this was a political ad where the side with the media in their pockets (dems) have made it a crime to discuss Fox’s position without being named as insensitive or labeled a bigot. If he is going to jump out there and make debatable comments, he should expect a debate.


  157. Ceralor Says:

    #159 chimpeach

    I believe it’s called “cranial rectumitis”.

    I don’t see anyone else on here who is suffering from it using it as an excuse, but it does make sense.


  158. kr3mliyn Says:

    More power to the cause and you Mr. Fox!


  159. Ceralor Says:

    Actually my real problem is with people who claim disabilities who condemn public figures who have disabilities. If you really had the same disability you would understand, but having a different one makes you not understand the same thing. Don’t you want a cure for what you have, Douglas+G? There’s no way one will be ready for Fox in time, and I’m sure he knows that after 7+ years of this. He’s trying to stand up for all the others who can’t have a public image and be truly recognized. I see a lot of ads that have Joe Average with Problem Y talk about it but it doesn’t get anyone motivated! This is the same reason Bono and Oprah are leading the RED campaign — taking advantage of their publicity to help others.


  160. Johnny+Lib Says:

    “…..named as insensitive or labeled a bigot”

    Thy name is Rush Limbaugh!


  161. Douglas+G. Says:

    Comment by Ceralor ,

    Yes, I would like a cure. Would I “USE” my condition in the politcal sense? NO! There are enough REAL issues to be dealt with, that CAN be dealt with than the issue of stem cell research, by people who can NOT change what has happened already.

    Now to address another turn in this thread, walmart, overseas jobs, cheaper production, etc.

    I made a statement that higher wages contributed to higher prices, but really missed the boat when I should have also addressed getting the product cheaper from other sources.

    I understand the need for making higher wages, and it is incumbent upon each of us, to make that happen for ourselves.


  162. Douglas+G. Says:

    #157,

    Tell you what, spen 10 years in submarine forces, and then recieve a permanent, disableing injury, not due to negligence, receive an honorable discharge under medical conditions, progressivl