VIDEO: Michael J. Fox Responds To Limbaugh Smear
VIDEO: Michael J. Fox Responds To Limbaugh Smear
On Monday, Rush Limbaugh accused actor Michael J. Fox of faking symptoms of Parkinson’s disease in advertisements supporting stem cell research. Limbaugh said Fox was “exaggerating the effects of the disease. He’s moving all around and shaking and it’s purely an act. … This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting.”
Yesterday in Illinois, Fox responded to Limbaugh’s smear. Watch it:
Transcript:
FOX: I’m kinda lucky right now. It’s ironic, given some things that have been said in the last couple days, that my pills are working really well right now.
ANNOUNCER: That’s Michael J. Fox responding to a critic, radio powerhouse Rush Limbaugh. Michael J. Fox spoke out today in support of stem-cell research at a rally in Illinois. His response comes after the conservative commentator accused Fox of either “acting” or not using his medication during an ad for Missouri senate candidate Claire McCaskill. During the ad, Fox was trembling due to symptoms of his Parkinson’s disease.
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You go, Michael
October 25th, 2006 at 9:51 amRush has a chronic disease, too…
It’s called Foot in Mouth disease, along with painkiller dependency,
erectile dysfunction, diarreah of the mouth, self flagellation, narcissim
and a host of others.
You, Michael, are doing what good people expect.
Rush does what those who have sold their soul to Satan do;
lie, cheat, distort, cast dispersion and whatever else a deranged
mind can come up with.
Limbaugh is a big fat flaming gasbag, just like the Hindenburg. To criticize the sick because their symptoms show is the kind of low-life scum tactic he is known for. When will the American public turn him off and get him off the airwaves of our country?
October 25th, 2006 at 9:51 amGood for Michael J. Fox. I know first hand about this disease my Mother-in Law had this Parkinson’s disease for about 12 years. I don’t wish this disease on anyone except Old Rush. This guy has a big mouth. I guess he must be speaking for the Right Wing Nut Republican Party.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:55 amWhen are they going to shut Limbaugh down. Good God. That guy is a menace to all that is good.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:56 amEven this news team can’t get their facts straight. They said, “Fox was trembling due to symptoms of his Parkinson’s disease.”
But as it’s already been mentioned, he was trembling not because of the disease, but because of the medication he was taking for the disease.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:56 amI doubt that Limpballs can be gotten off the airwaves. He is Mother Teresa to the morons.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:56 amTo paraphrase a familiar quote: “The stupid will always be with us”. And Limpballs is a good and necessary distraction for them. Without him on the air, these idiots would probably spend that time operating heavy equipment. Keeping them near their radios is a real public safety service and we all owe Limpballs a debt of gratitude.
Rush was on his meds just no question. You have to be on something to think like him. I wonder what the maid put in the pill box for that fat A$$???
October 25th, 2006 at 9:58 am#5 That’s absolutely correct.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:02 amMichael J. Fox is heroic.
I thank him and I apologize for a**holes like the Rushbag!
October 25th, 2006 at 10:05 amLimbaugh is the best advertisement for using condoms.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:11 amI like Michel J. Fox’s acting. I think he’s a great actor, both his tv, and his movies. Does this mean I listen to him as a person any more than the gal or guy working next to me? No. not really. He’s a person, just like you and I with opinions, and feelings, and yes, he has a disease. Does it handicap him? yes. Do I understand what he his going through, again, yes. No I don’t have Parkinson’s, I do however have suffered a permanent disabling injury, that affects every aspect of my daily life. I have to take meds 24 hours a day just to make it through each day.
My description of the word pain? When going to the bathroom, means getting on your hands and knees and crawling, because you cannot bear the pain of attempting to stand.
Do I understand how a debilitating injury or disease affects every aspect of your daily life? Porbably better than most of you all here do.
I also think it was distasteful, and wrong that he intentionally did not take his medication before shooting the ad. It was decpetive. Do i think rush was wrong? Yes and No. He should have found out all the answers before calling him out. Do i think Fox was also wrong? Yes, because he USED his disease to mislead people concerning the effectiveness of current treatment, and it’s availability.
I also hope that one day we have a cure, but the bottom line here is, the people who are asking for your votes, are in now way going to be able to bring about the changes they are trying to insinuate they can.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:21 amI’d love to see Billy Graham (also has Parkinson’s) call up Rush on his show and give him a holy smackdown.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:22 amSorry Frank, Limbaugh is the best advertisement for abstinence.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:22 amAt this point in time, we should welcome the fear and smear tatics of thee repugs. If voters can’t see through their slim, they don’t deserve freedom.
Bring it on Limbaugh! Show us the disgusting creature that you are. The christian right are the most hateful group of losers.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:26 amI support you Michael, you are braver than I would ever be I think.
RIMbaugh is excrement…
October 25th, 2006 at 10:27 amI wonder if Rush was faking the big pimple on his ass that got him out of serving in Vietnam?
October 25th, 2006 at 10:30 amGood Morning Zooey and all, limbaugh would be a good project for reto active birth control…….Blessings
October 25th, 2006 at 10:31 amDouglas G., I’m sorry to hear of your suffering, and wish you well. I just wanted to ask if it’s been verified that MJF did NOT take his meds prior to taping the ad? I have not heard that anywhere, and do not know if that’s been confirmed. I’m holding off any judgment of his actions until/unless he has admitted to it.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:32 amDouglas+G.
If Fox had not taken his medication before the advert, he would not have been moving around, he wouldn’t be able to. The twitching and constant movement? A side effect of the medication.
Fox isn’t contemptable, but I get this strange feeling, sick or not, you are.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:33 am“I also think it was distasteful, and wrong that he intentionally did not take his medication before shooting the ad.”
Douglas G., who, other than Limbaugh has said that Fox didn’t take his meds before taping the spots?
You just keep spouting the lies, OK?
October 25th, 2006 at 10:33 amThank you for being so brave, Michael. Limpballs has nothing to contribute to society so he tries to spread hate.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:33 amIllinoize? Who is the commentator? Idiot.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:34 amDouglas G:
October 25th, 2006 at 10:34 amThe symptoms of the medication are the tremors, moron. If he intentionally didn’t take his meds, he would barely be able to move.
Get you facts straight, asshole.
Pat Roberson,Falwell…where are you now?……all the do gooders are GUILTY of doing NOTHING to stop this scum.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:34 amBut it must be true because I heard it on talk radio.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:36 amPat Roberson,Falwell…where are you now?……all the do gooders are GUILTY of doing NOTHING to stop this scum limpdong. He will have to live with his statments forever,because WE will NEVER let him forget it..NEVER.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:36 amI have a question, since I cannot open a movie file from work:
did Michael J Fox “intentionally not take his meds before shooting this commercial?”
Because I would like to point out something:
October 25th, 2006 at 10:37 amParkinson’s Disease is a lack of dopamine production from the neurons in the brain. Replenishment of dopamine is the standard mode of action. Unfortunately, certain “dopamine producing” drugs are not “brain selective”, thus will affect every cell of the body. Over time, standard dosing or an increase in dosing can result in Tardive Dyskenisia, which is, and I quote, characterized by repetitive, involuntary, purposeless movements. Features of the disorder may include grimacing, tongue protrusion, lip smacking, puckering and pursing, and rapid eye blinking. Rapid movements of the arms, legs, and trunk may also occur. Involuntary movements of the fingers may appear as though the patient is playing an invisible guitar or piano.
sometimes, to decrease this side effect, one must discontinue drug therapy for a while, but not always. And one doesn’t immeadiately see a result the day they stop taking or reduce their meds. Dopamine is built up in their system, and upon discontinuation, will slowly leave the body, over days and days.
so, if Mr.Fox actually had stopped his meds over weeks, he would have decreased his involuntary shaking over time, and become more rigid and stiff.
See, this is what I hate about the state of the media in America (although Rush is more entertainment than media really.) Anyone can scream any accusation they want, and if they’re audience is big enough a large portion of America believes it. Later, when that is proven to be false, a tiny little retraction or apology will come out, but long after the genie is out of the lamp.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:39 amKMPH is a Fox station in Fresno. Surprised?
October 25th, 2006 at 10:41 amThe United States can only handle one Land of Lincoln, so please do not pluralize it. Has he never heard it pronounced correctly before? Seriously?
October 25th, 2006 at 10:42 amLet’s get something straight here.
A side-effect of the medication is that it makes the patient shake MORE.
Untreated Parkinson’s disease freeze the muscles of the sufferer.
What Fox was trying to do was trying to find a medium place (between drug and no drug) where he could actually talk in a somewhat normal fashion.
Limbaugh on the other hand has made a career of lying and just pulling stuff out of his butt… making stuff up. Why can he do this? Because there is a segment of the population who are so disparate to believe in a world that doesn’t exist, a world where their prejudices are justified, that they’ll look the other way.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:45 amI never had much respect for Limbaugh – but after this recent verbal assault he has really sunk to the bottom of the toilet. Funy that a man who claims to be christian abuses prescription meds and passes judgement.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:53 amI don’t think whether Douglas G. is in pain or not, or whether his disability is worse than Fox’s or not, somehow excuses him from exhibiting basic decency.
Douglas, Rush Limbaugh is a despicable, hateful person, and there is no excuse for carrying his water, which you seem so determined to do.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:53 amMichael, May God Bless you and your family during this horrible ordeal! When we think like the world we become like them, We live in a evil fallen world, let christ guide you always. May prayers are with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 25th, 2006 at 10:54 amI think Rush is just bitter that the ultraconservative, pill-popping Michael Keaton wasn’t real.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:55 amMichael J. Fox’s explanation was that he’s got Parkinson’s, which causes the freezing up. He’s on a drug for the Parkinson’s that causes tremors and shaking. He’s on another drug for the tremors that causes the swaying. So what we see in the video is the result of a drug taken because of another drug taken because of Parkinson’s.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:59 amMichael J, It’s good to see you rise above the proclivity of the 2006 political campaigning and it’s ignorant babbling. Much admiration to you.
Tammy
October 25th, 2006 at 11:00 amI guess that’s kind of the diametrical opposite of not taking his meds.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:00 amWe must be kind to Doug – his brain has atrophied and Rush must do all of his thinking for him. He is incapable of “using the googles” to do simple research on a topic and must depend on the narrow trickle of baseless opinions that come from Limbaugh for his every thought and action. Won’t you please give now to help end the plight of the dittoheads?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:00 amEveryone missed the point. Whether or not Michael J. Fox exaggerated his symptoms, or not, is not the point. It is whether or Michael J. Fox is being opportunistic with his malady. The point is whether Michael J. Fox is using his celebrity to make unsubstantiable political statements. That is the question.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:01 amThe point is whether Michael J. Fox is using his celebrity to make
unsubstantiable political statements. That is the question.
Comment by Rush Baby
Really? Then you got the wrong thread.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:07 amSo supporting candidates who are for research that may (may being the key word) lead to a cure are being “opportunistic”?
Was Christopher Reeves opportunistic? Would Lance Armstrong be if the issue were cancer treatments?
Also, Fox is the one that produced the ad in Missouri — NOT Claire McCaskill. This is an issue that affects him (and even me, since I have a degenerative spinal disease), so he’s doing what he can to get the truth out.
I know facts can be pesky things, but it’d be nice if some people used them every once in a while.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:08 amRush Limpbaugh can kiss my ass.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:09 amWhether or not Michael J. Fox exaggerated his symptoms, or not, is not the point.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:09 amComment by Rush Baby — October 25, 2006 @ 11:01 am
Man, dittoheads really cannot think on their own, now can they?
But at the top of the thread, we have this:
Rush Limbaugh accused actor Michael J. Fox of faking symptoms of Parkinson’s disease in advertisements supporting stem cell research. Limbaugh said Fox was “exaggerating the effects of the disease. He’s moving all around and shaking and it’s purely an act. … This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting.â€
That is the point, Rushie Baby!
Rush apologized in the very next segment. Get over it.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:13 amFor those of you who have never listened to Rush’s show it is easy to pick at one comment taken from a 3 hour diatribe. Regardless of what you think of him, I doubt most people could entertain such a large audience for 3 hours every day of the week without occasionally misstating something. I am an occasional listener to his show and I am one of the people who emailed right away when I heard him say what he said about Michael J. Fox. I told him it was wrong. He had gone to a commercial right after making that statement and when he came back from commercial he immediately said that he was mistaken. His point is only that it is not only possible but likely that, whether it be by taking too much or not enough medication, perhaps Michael J. Fox was convinced to make his symptoms appear worse than they do on most days. The guy has a horrible disease and I personally think that it is idiotic for president Bush to have signed legislation making it illegal to use embryos discarded during invitro fertilization for research which would be trashed otherwise. Why destroy something at the early stages of life rather than use it to help potentially improve another’s life? Issues are not always black and white, republican and democrat. It is easy to spout hate about Rush Limbaugh, but his off the cuff comments were VERY quickly revised after a commercial interruption. Even the most liberal democrat has to admit that it is possible for politicians to try to make a situation look worse/better than it is, so it is entirely possible that MJ’s symptoms were some how manipulated, and if you get to the core of what Rush was trying to convey you will understand that. Just look at the “mission accomplished” banner on the aircraft carrier that President Bush flew onto…I’m sure no democrat would tell me that the republicans weren’t trying to influence people with that banner, since the Iraq war is a disaster and no where near accomplished.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:13 amConsider Rush’s frequent guest from the White House, and how Rush might be being used as a mouthpiece.
When Rush visited Bush 41, he promised he would continue to be as hard on politicians polictically right as on those who were to the left, despite his enjoyment of the Bush’s hospitality together around the fireplace in the oval office. My take is that he has become increasingly less balanced in his abuse of politicians.
Perhaps his imbalance relates the obvious issue with medications. He is lucky to have strong support, or his legal outcome with drug abuses (opium derivatives and sexual aids) might not have been as light.
I’m afraid he has more that half of his brain tied up.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:13 amI agree with Rush. Michael is a self-involved actor. He will be dead in a normal life span before the stem cell research can be effective, if at all, for his condition. He is like a cannibal. He would consume other lives (unborn babies) to make his life more tolerable, and, since it is RESEARCH such efforts probably will not be successful. He is bitter because he felt he had the world by the tail because of his acting success, only to be unable to enjoy that success by the condition of his body. The research he wants can be done privately now, but that rich actor wants me to help pay for it through my federal taxes and take actions which I find to be immoral.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:14 amRush Baby (ew, it’s creepy even typing that!), the only statement MJF seems to be making is that he is hoping that stem cell research might find a cure, and that Ms. McCaskill feels the same way and will vote for real stem cell research.
MJF has the same right to free speech as any American (for now, anyway), and has every right to publicly endorse a candidate who is concerned about illnesses that afflict millions, and who is willing to try to do something about it. Would you rather have seen, say Ronald Reagan Jr. in the ad, because he’s ‘political’?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:14 amWere the Republicans being opportunistic with Terry Schiavo?
She was brain dead but that didn’t stop them!
October 25th, 2006 at 11:16 amOh for Pete’s sake, Douglas G.
Sinemet, the drug most often prescribed for Parkinsons, is known to have a rebound effect, i.e. it works great for a while, then doesn’t work so great. So a patient on Sinemet can respond fabulously for a period of time, and then the medication becomes less effective, or not effective at all.
At this point the patient has to go on a “drug holiday” wherein meds are changed up to compensate. Monitoring Parkinson’s meds is an ongoing process that patients have to deal with DAILY – it’s a balancing act. Some days the meds work great, some days the meds don’t work at all.
In fact, if you listened to the video, Mr. Fox says, “my pills are working really well right now.” Right now. But that’s not to say that they’ll work so good tomorrow.
You don’t just say, “Pop a pill and feel better.” It doesn’t work that way. There’s no guarantee the pill will work. And there is no cure. But that’s rather the point Mr. Fox was trying to make.
I don’t have Parkinsons, but I do have a severe case of PLMD and have done the whole Sinemet thing. Trust me, it’s hell. You want to believe the prescribed treatment will work, and when it doesn’t … well, it’s beyond frustrating.
So Dougie Boy, next time you got something to say, you might want to check your facts and make sure it’s worth hearing.
As to Rush – shame on him. I can’t even imagine picking on ANYONE who has to live with such a nightmare every day – regardless of your politics.
How sad that some people are so insensitive to the suffering of others.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:18 amWell, we already have Douglas G., Rush Baby, and Storm representing the Dittoheads of America, and now we get the professional Limbaugh spokesperson CantSeeTheForestForTheTrees to stomach. I feel like I need a shower after reading their comments.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:19 amWhy doesn’t Limpballs just call Fox a “baby killer” and get it over with.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:20 amHe is like a cannibal. He would consume other lives (unborn babies) to make his life more tolerable, and, since it is RESEARCH such efforts probably will not be successful. He is bitter because he felt he had the world by the tail because of his acting success, only to be unable to enjoy that success by the condition of his body.
Comment by Robert Owen — October 25, 2006 @ 11:14 am
…and…this freak. Yikes.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:21 amFox is not pushing a democrat – he is pushing for a cure, and a leader who will assist in providing a path toward that cure.
I am quite certain that if a Repub had the intrest in finding a cure as quickly as possible, he would have no problem pushing for that option.
And I’m also quite certain that he is doing this not for himself, but for others that will be afflicated with this disease, and others. I believe that he knows he will succumb to this disease.
Opportunistic, sure. But not purely politically. And certainly not in the same hateful, personal, Red and Blue way that Limbaugh pushes.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:22 amRobert Owen
Okay, if you are going to call it immoral, I sure hope you never need a transplant or a blood transfusion, like, ever. Oh, and I do hope that if you feel so strongly about this, that you and your family goes down to a fertility Clinic and adopts all of those spare, unused fertalised embryos, after all, if it is murder to use them constructively what must you think of incinerating them?
Johnny+Lib
Of course not, you may call her braindead, but the Republicans call that their base.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:23 amBruce Gordon @ 61
Thanks for the laugh!
October 25th, 2006 at 11:28 amWe all know what Rush said, but have you seen this?
[url]http://newsbusters.org/media/2006-10-24-NBCNNMitchell.wmv[/url]
It’s video of Rush literally physically mocking Fox’s symptoms.
How can anyone defend that?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:30 amSeriously, I wonder if Rush was faking the big pimple on his ass that got him out of serving in Vietnam? Inquiring minds want to know.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:33 am#48
All he does is apologize. That don’t make it right.
He apologized for being an oxycotin head.
He apologized for being a fat-ass liar.
He apologized for his comments about drug addicts (when he was actually one)
He apologized for making fun of a terminally ill actor
etc…….
How about “F” Rush … apology’s not accepted.
This guy makes a career off saying idiotic things that border on Hate Crimes (IMO)
October 25th, 2006 at 11:35 amHe deserves to get some paralyzing disease where he foams from the mouth and craps his pants all day … then we can roll a news crew down there and all have a good laugh.
How can anyone defend that?
Comment by watershed — October 25, 2006 @ 11:30 am
The trolls will find a way.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:35 amWhoops. Try again.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:36 am
Watershed @ 63
http://newsbusters.org/media/2006-10-24-NBCNNMitchell.wmv
You are correct. It is indefensible!
WATCH IT!
October 25th, 2006 at 11:36 amDid Limpballs ever demonize Nancy Reagan for her support of embryonic stem cell research? Like, “She’s faking her love for her husband.” If he hasn’t gone after her yet, he has some catching up to do.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:37 amI can’t leave a proper link, sorry, two times a failure. Oh well. Cut and paste.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:38 amI have Parkinson’s. Fox is my hero. It’s not easy going out in public when you have these symptoms. Most Parkinson’s patients hide away. But Fox has decided, and I agree, that the best way to get people to recognize the need for medical research is to show what the disease really does. Christopher Reeve, Dick Clark, Josh Blue, anyone with a disease or disability who comes out and shows the world what they’re dealing with is heroic. By being a public face for Parkinson’s, Fox gives me hope that I won’t have to live with this horrible condition for the rest of my life.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:39 amOff-topic:
Reading everyone’s comments makes me embarassed to be an American. Partisan lunatics make fools of themselves, and divide us as a nation. “Democrats use smear tactics, and they have no morals” and “Republicans use smear tactics, and have no basis of reality”
Being lead by EITHER party is stupid on behalf of the individual. Make up your own f**kin decisions! People seem to make decisions based on what “their party” is deciding. It’s so f**kin annoying!
REPUBLICANS ARE NOT BETTER THAN DEMOCRATS! AND DEMOCRATS ARE NOT BETTER THAN REPUBLICANS! Partisanship is STUPID, so please quit making fool of yourself! We’re Americans, we’re supposed to be individuals, and we SHOULD be ok with that!
October 25th, 2006 at 11:42 am#49 CantSeeTheForestForTheTrees
I’ve listened to his show, but there’s only so much I can take. Rush and his admirers don’t live in a reality-based world. They don’t like facts, because facts ruin a good story. Rush tells his stories and his fans love to hear them. When Rush wants to add a little air of credibility to his story to make it sound like it really is true, he throws in some statistics. The problem is that he pulls those statistics out of his ass. There is no source for them other than that. Actual (factual) statistics don’t support his argument, so he doesn’t use them.
All you dittoheads care about is a good story that backs up your hatred for this cartoon character that you call “liberal”. You don’t really know anyone like that, but Rush has you believing that all Democrats are liberals and all liberals do this or that. I’ll let you in on a little secret here. Rush’s entire schtick consists of this: No matter what the issue is, political or not, he first decides which side he’s on. Then he declares there to be a “conservative” side to it and a “liberal” side to it. Then he criticizes all opposing views on that subject by calling them liberal. Once he’s done that, his dittoheads don’t even have to listen anymore. They now know what’s good (consevative) and what’s bad (liberal). No thinking required.
You’re asking us to be open-minded about Rush? You’ve just defined insanity.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:43 amWay to be honest think progress. I notice you conveniently leave out the fact he retracted his statement and apologized 15 mins after making this statement. He apologized on air because the “evil conservatives” who are his listeners informed him he was wrong.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:44 amRush sucks….maybe we can get lucky and he will come down with the disease.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:47 amJason #74
Please refer to the video of Rush mocking Fox’s symptoms at #68 and tell us again how his actions are simply retractable.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:48 amChrist will punish Limbaugh. I can’t wait to see him burning in hell.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:49 amThe point is whether Michael J. Fox is using his celebrity to make
unsubstantiable political statements. That is the question.
Comment by Rush Baby
Rush apologized in the very next segment. Get over it.
Comment by Storms
Like any of us Michael J Fox has every right to speak out. Some have said that celebrities should use the power of their position to effect positive change. He is simply stumping for candidates who are willing to support efforts that could someday lead to a cure or better treatment for his disease.
I suppose if he made the exact same commercial, but supporting a Republican who opposes stem cell research and changed the message to say that stem cell research was bad in spite of his illness, then there would be no hate at all from the right. Nope they would hold him up as being a celebrity who has it all but is willing to be accountable to his faith etc…
Rush may have apologized, but he knew from the moment he said it that regardless of what came next, the allegations would be out there. Even with an apology you can never fully recover the effects of an allegation. Heck look at the reactions of Rush supporters here, and these are not the most virulent supporters out there. Toss in that Rush was mocking Fox’s disease and physical movements, and the apology sounds more and more half hearted.
Rush’s actions are absolutely undefendable, yet here are his people defending him. One more reason republicans shoudl not be in control of anything.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:49 am…These are Americacans talking…Sad to see a nation with so much ill intent and false piousness ruling over so many good and honest folks
October 25th, 2006 at 11:56 am78 — The defenders of Rush, Bush, etc. are zombies. The living dead. If you run into one, check for a pulse, or body warmth. They never blink. Above all, don’t let one bite you!
October 25th, 2006 at 11:56 amRush’s apology included the infamous quote, “If that were true (that Fox was taking his medicine), then I apologize.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:56 amTHIS IS NOT AN APOLOGY It leaves doubt in the dittohead’s mind (and heck, that’s all they need)
THIS IS AN APOLOGY
I, because of misinformation, herby retract my statements from an earlier broadcast. I clearly was not aware that Mr. Fox was, in fact, taking his meds to counter the awful disease know as PD. Unfortunately, a major side effect is tremors, and uncontrolled movement, especially in the extremities, as well as others. I sincerely apologize to Mr. Fox, and to all those who do suffer from PD. I will be sure and do my reasearch in the future before making such comments. Thank you, and God Bless
“Now people are telling me they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial,” Limbaugh said, according to a transcript on his Web site. “All right then, I stand corrected. . . . So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act.”
- from the Washington Post
This is NOT an apology. This is a “non-apology.”
October 25th, 2006 at 11:58 amWhy did the anchor NOT mention that the rally was for Tammy Duckworth?
October 25th, 2006 at 12:01 pm#72 NoNameNeeded
I can understand the confusion. Having been born only yesterday, you cetainly couldn’t be expected to understand that there are actually two definitions of bipartisanship.
There’s the Democratic definition, which means both parties working together trying to arrive at mutually agreeable solutions to our nation’s pressing problems for the benefit of all of its citizens.
And there’s the Republicans’ definition: “We’ll make all the decisions and if the Democrats will simply go along with all of them, we can call it bipartisanship.”
I hope that helps clear it up for you. It makes you look a little bit silly trying to blame this mess equally on Democrats and Republicans. It’s sort of like seeing a person getting mugged and saying “Hey you guys, knock off the rough stuff. I don’t care who started it. Just knock it off.”
October 25th, 2006 at 12:04 pmI notice you conveniently leave out the fact he retracted his statement and apologized 15 mins after making this statement. Comment by Jason — October 25, 2006 @ 11:44 am
And the Rush defenders keep rushing in. What Rush did was despicable, and defending it is despicable.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:04 pmRush is actually responsible for the right’s culture based on disingenuous misinformation, the unwillingness to commit to informed one-on-one debate. Rush sits in his studio and has “debates” with Fox, Clinton (both of them), Pelosi, etc. and is always “right” because no one is there to respond. Like a kid alone in a field with a football pretending he’s making the winning Superbowl touchdown. Except in Rush’s case he’s got a bunch of other kids watching and cheering his win. It’s sick, stupid, and immature.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:04 pmREPUBLICANS ARE NOT BETTER THAN DEMOCRATS! AND DEMOCRATS ARE NOT BETTER THAN REPUBLICANS!
Comment by NoNameNeeded — October 25, 2006 @ 11:42 am
let’s just say that I would be very, very surprised were I to learn that this person isn’t a Republican
October 25th, 2006 at 12:06 pm#77 if you can see him burning in hell then that means you are close enough to watch.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:06 pmRealScientist @ 87
I’d eat my hat!
October 25th, 2006 at 12:09 pmYou know, even if you are a conservative thinker, you can see that Limbaugh used deplorable judgement. He is completely speculating about Fox’s situation. I write about Parkinson’s disease all the time, and have many good sincere friends in the Parkinson’s community. Even if Fox did not take his meds, he is portraying a very stark reality. He is speaking for millions that have PD world-wide.
1 – Many people living with Parkinson’s have arrived at a point where medications have little effect on symptoms. Fox gives us insight into the population’s situation, not just his.
2 – Most people in the US, Canada, and some other countires have reasonable access to medications. However, there are millions of people in world that just do not have the means to purchase basic Parkinson’s medications. Earlier this year, at the World Parkinson congress I met a neurologist from Chile. He works hard to help his patients get the basic Parkinson’s disease medication – levadopa. However, most of his patients just cannot afford any of the other miraculous medications that help fine tune to their needs. Funny thing how he probably doesn’t get a lot of lunches brought in by drug reps.
Michael J Fox shows a small dose of insight into the constant lives of a people with Parkinson’s in Chile, India, Zambia, Mexico, Iraq and most of the countries in the world.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:09 pmRush needs to do a commercial for drug addicts. Im sure he will take his meds!!
October 25th, 2006 at 12:11 pmRealScientist
If he is, after a statement like that he had better vote independent.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:12 pmRush Limbaugh is the biggest freaking cock-sucker in the USA. Why do you think he has been able to get away with so many crimes that the average joe would have been locked away in prinson for years. Yet he is still on the streets and being respected. He is probably the best cock-sucker there ever was.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:12 pm#87 – It always amazes me how these folks can be so cynical and naive at the same time. How is it that the following two statements invariably come out of the same misinformed mouth?
“All politicians are crooks and will say or do anything to get your vote.”
“I will continue to support politician because he supports my values.”
It just goes to show you that right wing authoritarian followers will say anything in their unending need to have their beliefs validated.
It’s sad, really.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:13 pm“Rush needs to do a commercial for drug addicts. Im sure he will take his meds!!”
Rush is a commercial for drug addicts!
October 25th, 2006 at 12:14 pmTheToonGuy
I’ll take a bash:
They honestly believe that all politicians are crooks, and their values just happen to be crooked – so why bother changing who they vote for?
October 25th, 2006 at 12:17 pmWhat is REALLY wrong with this whole mess is that people like Mr. Limbaugh including big media continue to ABUSE THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES.
We seem to think that these people and corporations own the airwave and they DON’T! We the PEOPLE own the airwaves and if these people like Rush and that flippin’ idiot O’Reilly continue to ABUSE the airwaves with unfounded attacks and smearing the reputations of anyone they see fit then the companies they work for should LOSE THEIR LICENSE! PERIOD!
Enough is enough!
October 25th, 2006 at 12:18 pmI am appalled at Limpballs comments! Limpballs just proves the biggest hypocrites are Republicans and their supporters! He should be the poster child for Planned Parenthood. We need to find out who his advertisers are and send them a letter to the CEO’s letting them know we are going to BOYCOTT their products as long as they run their ads on his radio show!
October 25th, 2006 at 12:18 pmI agree with Rush. Michael is a self-involved actor. He will be dead in a normal life span before the stem cell research can be effective, if at all, for his condition. He is like a cannibal. He would consume other lives (unborn babies) to make his life more tolerable, and, since it is RESEARCH such efforts probably will not be successful. He is bitter because he felt he had the world by the tail because of his acting success, only to be unable to enjoy that success by the condition of his body. The research he wants can be done privately now, but that rich actor wants me to help pay for it through my federal taxes and take actions which I find to be immoral.
Comment by Robert Owen — October 25, 2006 @ 11:14 am
Thank you, Robert. Your post is a shining beacon of “compassionate conservatism.” You are duly noted as one of the 30%.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:23 pmLimbaugh treads where all repugs tread — in the slime.
This is one of their favorite tactics; say something known to be a lie, then back away with an apology. Meanwhile, the first impact makes the most noise.
How many times did we hear in the Iraq invasion that WMD’s had been found? Each time, the “apology” or “retraction” was buried deep on page 7, so that John Q. Public only remembers the headlines. There are STILL idiots out there who believe this drivel.
We should boycott Limpball’s advertisers. Right now, there are plenty of Americans (not just liberals) who are outraged by this.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:26 pmAnd there’s the Republicans’ definition: “We’ll make all the decisions and if the Democrats will simply go along with all of them, we can call it bipartisanship.†Chimpeach
Matt Taibbi said it best. The republicans’ current definition of bipartisanship is “take that, b*tch!”
October 25th, 2006 at 12:26 pmVote Democrat so we can impeach the pres for all the lies and deception. He needs to pay. Its sad that most Americans dont care if they are manipulated like that. Rush is his best ally on the war on American people.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:30 pmRush is a douchbag that needs to be wiped off the earth. This is the guy who also said that I don’t know who Hitler is.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:31 pmOctober 25th, 2006 at 12:32 pm
Since you Rush cheerleaders think discarded embryos are babies, why don’t you just call Fox a “baby-killer”? Are you afraid that would make you look looney?
October 25th, 2006 at 12:35 pmMy facts are straight ASSHOLES! It’s also a symptom of NOT taking the medicine if you care to take time to research this. I guess that’s asking too much you want to bash someone too much to take that time.
As for not taking the meds, from those that asked about it, there are reports on ABC, CBS, and CNN that all state the same, he admitted to NOT taking the meds before the commercial.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:36 pmI agree with Rush. Michael is a self-involved actor. He will be dead in a normal life span before the stem cell research can be effective, if at all, for his condition. He is like a cannibal. He would consume other lives (unborn babies) to make his life more tolerable, and, since it is RESEARCH such efforts probably will not be successful. He is bitter because he felt he had the world by the tail because of his acting success, only to be unable to enjoy that success by the condition of his body. The research he wants can be done privately now, but that rich actor wants me to help pay for it through my federal taxes and take actions which I find to be immoral.
Comment by Robert Owen
These Blastocysts they speak of are currently frozen Robert, what kind of life is that? Do you want to spend an eternity cryogenically frozen. Not to mention they have developed ways of getting a cell without harming the blastocyst. When you get old and develop parkinsons remember this day. Your worried about taxes when Bush is straddling you with debt at the rate of 3 billion a week to bomb adobe houses and poor people?
October 25th, 2006 at 12:39 pmBTW, comment 27 was not me, just some idiot who is unable to articulate for themselves, and is probably a contemptable person in real life too.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:39 pmPeople wouldn’t watch pro wrestling if it wasn’t real, and they wouldn’t listen to Rush if he wasn’t a brilliant political theorist.
HA!! – listen to the morons defend their drugged up cult leader!! Talk about low, talk about people I wouldn’t piss on if they were on fire….listen to them trying to say that MJ Fox can’t have political opinions ”cause he’s an actor” (Arnold, anyone?, Reagan, anyone?)
First off, anyone who listens to Rush at all is a pathetic goof. Second of all, RUsh is a drugged up pathetic goof. Third, Republicans have all the morality that dogs have, and no more. If any of them had any sense whatsoever, they’d be ashamed of themselves, but they’re incapable of that – check out the sociopaths that have posted their fecal jibes on this thread – I could smell the poop from the other room. Soon as any of you are ready for a real-life beating, look me up.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:43 pmWhy is Rush still on the air? Haven’t other people been forced off the PUBLIC AIRWAVES for stuff like this? I don’t mean in a Howard Stern type of way either (supposed indecency). I’m talking about people being EVICTED from the microphone for offenses far less objectionable. That this guy is being listened to by anybody is sad. What’s tragic is that he’s being promoted by corporate titans. This type of act ought to be broadcasting on CB channel 23 out of a trailer in rural Alabama.
Enjoy.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:44 pmBoy, I’d sure like to see that. But in all of my searches, I can’t find any of these “admissions” that you’re claiming, Doug. How about you post some links to the articles on these networks sites to prove your point? If you can’t find them, will you admit that (like Rush) you might be wrong?
October 25th, 2006 at 12:45 pmLimbaugh reminds me of that scene where Dr.Evil is on the Springer show and the KKK guy [Dimbulb] accuses Dr.Evil of being some kind of freak.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:48 pmMy facts are straight ASSHOLES!
Comment by Douglas+G. — October 25, 2006 @ 12:36 pm
Absolutely a wonderful way to start of a debate! your intelligence just shines on and on…
It’s also a symptom of NOT taking the medicine if you care to take time to research this.
so you actually believe he was acting out symptoms of his disease! You truly are a dittohead idiot (again, this from someone who really tries to refrain from name-calling)
there are reports on ABC, CBS, and CNN that all state the same, he admitted to NOT taking the meds before the commercial.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:55 pmand you get this reliable source from….Drugde, Rightwingnews, Redstate?
Back it up son, or STFU!
I believe that Rush used horrible judgement by insinuating that Fox was off his meds no matter how factual that turned out to be, it was an insensitive thing to say about someone who genuinely cares about his cause – finding a cure to Parkinsons. I do think it is fair to criticize Fox’s position, becuase no matter how persuasive it is for someone with parkinson’s disease to cut an ad – it does not make his position factually accurate. That is what Rush should have stuck with becuase it would have made his point – now the media will just focus on the meds comments and allow all to dismiss the rest of the argument – whether this cloning bill in MO will allow more or less advancement of a cure IS DEBATABLE, that’s the only fact.
Oh – and stem cell research is being done in MO as I type this. Private enterprise has done an excellent job at advancing stem cell reserach – because it works. Embryonic stem cell reseach is generally being ignored by capital markets due to the great success of Adult Stem Cell research. So these organizations want to use FEDERAL dollars to advance THEIR cauase, and frankly, I’m not up for my $$ to be used for that cause – so I vote against it no matter who has the disease – closely related or not.
October 25th, 2006 at 12:55 pmDouglas G.@106
Please provide us with links to the ABC, CBS and CNN stories you are referring to.
You won’t be able to because they DO NOT exist!
October 25th, 2006 at 1:00 pmIt is not particularly unfortunate that Rush Limbaugh would say such ridiculous balderdash – face it he is a shameless self-promoter and will say anything he thinks will generate advertising revenue for his thinly-masked hate show. What is TERRIBLY UNFORTUNATE can be categorized in two ways:
1. That educated people would listen to such tripe and take it seriously (honestly, Limbaugh should have an audience of one – he can listen to himself in the shower).
2. That the intellectual level of so many people is apparently low enough they would listen to – accept, and believe – such an idiot. (Remember, this is the guy Dr. shopping for pain pills, then whining because he believes his rights are violated. The same hatemonger that has no problem bashing others.)
October 25th, 2006 at 1:01 pmComment by DRxJ —, sry, MY comment was in response to # 25.
I didn’t start out using that kind of language, was responding to those who ONLY understand that language.
To you and those who would debate without stooping low, I apologize.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:03 pmTruth: Stem cell research does not require dicing up unborn babies. umbillical cord tissue + lood can be used instead uof thrown away!All it requires is for the zippered bible people get their heads out of their butts.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:03 pm“Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see” Where is Air America to counter Russ? Oh I am sorry, Air America has went bankrupt because no one will finance their Lib. half truths.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:03 pm[...] I know this is a little off topic for my blog, but it really ticks me off when people with power speak about subjects to which they are so naive. From thinkprogress.com, “On Monday, Rush Limbaugh accused actor Michael J. Fox of faking symptoms of Parkinson’s disease in advertisements supporting stem cell research.” I don’t want to even start on how wrong he is on this, but he obviously doesn’t know much about Young Onset Parkinson’s Disease. I watched my father get Young Onset Parkinson’s Disease in his 30’s, live with it for 20 years, and then die from it. I wouldn’t wish Parkinson’s on my worst enemy, maybe I would wish it on someone who thinks the symptoms are “acting.” I hate to even post something that would give someone this ignorant the slightest bit of publicity, but I had to get it off my chest, so there.P.S. The story is also on Digg if you want to voice your opinion. Posted: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:05 PM by Page Brooks [...]
October 25th, 2006 at 1:05 pmI can’t watch the video, as I don’t have flash.
But… not going off in a profane tirade about how much of a jackass Rush is would be really hard to do.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:07 pmThis is awfully hypocritical of Rush, accusing another man of faking the symptoms of his disease. Rush is clearly faking his erectile disfunction symptoms, since everyone knows that you actually need genitalia to suffer from that particular condition.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:08 pmWho’s jumping to conclusions, looking foolish? Rush? You?
From: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102406/content/rush_is_right.guest.html
October 25th, 2006 at 1:10 pmRUSH: All right, people are asking for the cite, that’s c-i-t-e. This would be Michael J. Fox, an excerpt from his book “Lucky Man” June 1, 2002. Here is what he writes regarding his appearance before a Senate appropriations subcommittee hearing in Washington on September 28th, 1999: “I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease and the urgency we as a community were feeling be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling,” as it was for me when I saw the commercial he was running in Missouri, because I had never seen him that way before, ever, and I got numerous e-mails from people saying he had said that he does this: goes off the medication to illustrate the ravages of the disease to people and so it’s in his own book, that he admits doing this.
Who’s jumping to conclusions, looking foolish? Rush? You?
From: Rush’s website:
October 25th, 2006 at 1:11 pmRUSH: All right, people are asking for the cite, that’s c-i-t-e. This would be Michael J. Fox, an excerpt from his book “Lucky Man” June 1, 2002. Here is what he writes regarding his appearance before a Senate appropriations subcommittee hearing in Washington on September 28th, 1999: “I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease and the urgency we as a community were feeling be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling,” as it was for me when I saw the commercial he was running in Missouri, because I had never seen him that way before, ever, and I got numerous e-mails from people saying he had said that he does this: goes off the medication to illustrate the ravages of the disease to people and so it’s in his own book, that he admits doing this.
Question for 114: please consider if Rush’s comment was an error in judgement, or execution of an intentional ploy.
I submit that it was more likely an intentional ‘ad hominem’ attack: people who favor Fox’s line of thinking are weak and feeble, because Fox appears weak and feeble.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:12 pmObjectiveReader:
Parkinson’s is a progressive desease. That hearing was 7 years ago.
Where, again, is the evidence that he went without his meds before he shot these recent commercials?
October 25th, 2006 at 1:17 pm[...] Links: Rush Limbaugh On the Offensive Against Ad With Michael J. Fox VIDEO: Michael J. Fox Responds To Limbaugh Smear [...]
October 25th, 2006 at 1:21 pm#108 Douglas G.
BTW, comment 27 was not me, just some idiot who is unable to articulate for themselves, and is probably a contemptable person in real life too.
Sounds like a damn good imitation to me.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:23 pm[...] It's purely an act – Now, was Rush the one that's a megalomaniacal phone-sex enthusiast, or was Rush the one who loved his heroin Oxycontin? [...]
October 25th, 2006 at 1:28 pmMy Answer to 125. Please remember that Rush Limbaugh did not start this, Michael J Fox cut the ad with the allegations – true or not, and had to know that a response was coming. He probably wasnt expecting Rush to take up Talant’s cause, but Rush is part of the informal conservative cheerleading team in a heavily contested race, and anyone surrounding the production of the ad had to know it was going to be controversial.
So – my official answer to your question is that I actually think it was intentional on the DEM party to cause a rucus to take talant off message of tax cuts (over 6m new jobs in last 36 months) and war on terror.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:28 pmIn case anyone wants to put that snippet in context, here’s more of it from the Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson’s Research: http://www.michaeljfox.org/news/article.php?id=5
As Johnny Lib has pointed out, that was 7 years ago when the effects were mild compared to today. As Michael points out at the beginning of the exerpt, he has “on” days and “off” days where the meds just seem to work and he’s in complete control and other days when the Parkinson’s has complete control.
Can you imagine living like that? Trapped inside your own body, unable to do even the simplest of tasks? If you knew there was a possibility for a cure, wouldn’t you do everything in your power to see it happen? Finally, would you want that cure to be made available to everyone or just to those who can afford the outrageous fees that big pharma wants?
Who do you care for – your fellow man or your wallet?
October 25th, 2006 at 1:30 pmYep, 6 million minimum wage jobs that won’t lift a family above the poverty level and a “war” that continues to leave our ports and vulnerable power and chemical plants defenseless. Yes, let’s talk about that, shall we?
October 25th, 2006 at 1:33 pmWe can talk about it all day, becuase it gets republicans elected. If what you were saying is true, then why the last minute parkinsons ad from a movie star? Why not make it a referendum on economy or war on terror? I’ll tell you why they won’t, becuase not everybody believes the nuttery that you do. That’s why they are trying to change the subject with this ad…..
October 25th, 2006 at 1:38 pmThe date of the senate talk where he skipped the medications is not relevant. Rush’s point still stands, that is, it is entirely plausible that Fox’s actions were deliberate – and thus, not ’shielded’ from discussion. Right or wrong, Fox is respectable and Rush is intelligent. I think this whole thing is blown out of proportion. It wasn’t a smear. It may or may not have been exaggerated. It doesn’t really matter.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:38 pmOH – and by the way, I own a small business and employ many people, none of which I pay minimum wage. Not becuase I wouldnt either, just that you can’t find quality people who will work for it, so you pay more to get better people. It’s called the law of supply and demand, and it is core to the concept of capitalism that drives this country forward.
If you are making minimum wage, you likely deserve it.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:40 pmYou didn’t answer my question.
Who do you care for – your fellow man or your wallet?
October 25th, 2006 at 1:42 pmWhat is apalling is that anyone gives a rip about what Limbaugh said about Fox anymore than anyone should care about what any of us feel about Limbaugh. This is pointless!
October 25th, 2006 at 1:44 pmDoes anyone care about the political issue concerning this backdoor approach to legalize cloning in Missouri? This is another example of the press reacting to the sensational and totally missing what should be the real issue. But here we are; sheep being led astray to slaughter.
If you knew there was a possibility for a cure, wouldn’t you do everything in your power to see it happen?
No. we have the ability to do a lot of things, not all of which are legal or moral, and I would not be willing to do EVERYTHING in my power. I would be willing to do anything within the law to find a cure. I would also be willing to do whatever I could to encourage legislation that helped me reach this end.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:48 pmThere is an underlying current from those who accuse Michael J. Fox of acting or going without his medication in his recent political ads. And that is “he is only doing it so a cure can be found to Parkinson‘s disease to save his own life.â€
If a cure could be discovered so quickly, it would be a miracle! I have to believe that Fox is thinking of future victims of the disease when he is advocating for stem cell research. But leave it to the opponents of science to paint him as selfish.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:49 pm135
If you are making minimum wage, you likely deserve it.
Or, in the case of towns where local businesses were driven out by Wal-Mart, it’s the only place you can find work.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:53 pmSo you admit that Fox’s approach of campaigning for candidates that support stem cell research is something that you yourself would do in a similar situation.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:56 pm#137 Bonded
Does anyone care about the political issue concerning this backdoor approach to legalize cloning in Missouri?
Only the people who invented that issue, the righties. There is no such issue or interest or intent on the part of people who are trying to help the cause of embryonic stem cell research. Why do you want to keep 400,000 embryos frozen forever? Isn’t that basically the same thing as killing them? Are they really alive if they’re frozen forever? Think about it.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:57 pmRight. It’s all WalMart’s fault. Of course.
October 25th, 2006 at 1:58 pmExactly. When the place you work at gets closed down because the CEOs think they can make a profit by shipping the work out to a company overseas, what do you do? Where do you go? When there are 1000 applicants for each job at Walmart, where will you find the money to feed your family?
October 25th, 2006 at 2:00 pmJohnny+Lib
I more think of it as:
What is wrong with that? Is wanting a cure to a disease which you are dying from now a bad thing!?!?!?
October 25th, 2006 at 2:03 pm#143 bonesTwo
Right. It’s all WalMart’s fault. Of course.
I was just offering an exception to your declaration.
Sensitive, aren’t we?
October 25th, 2006 at 2:03 pmLet’s face the facts here in this matter. MJF has Parkinson’s Disease. A side effect of the medication itself is tardive dyskinesia. Did MJF overexagerate his movements? Probably not. What was the point of stopping taking his meds (if this is indeed the fact)
I think the point is an obvious one. Medication side effects are about as debilitating as the disease itself. Just because there is a medication out there that can lessen symptoms of Parkinson’s doesn’t mean that taking them is a cure-all by any stretch of the imagination.
Watch the ad and understand as to what is really the true message of the ad itself as portrayed by MJF, meds alone are not the answer. Hell, for many meds just raise more questions as to whether there is something that can be done for Parkinson’s sufferers. POINT WELL MADE Michael!
October 25th, 2006 at 2:06 pmWRONG!
I called McCaskill’s campaign and the Fox foundation about the commercial last night for my site.
Fox first contacted McCaskill back in July after he heard her response the PoTUS radio message (right before he used his veto against the bi-partisan supported stem cell bill).
After he did a fundrasier for her a few weeks ago, he called her campaign again to offer to help. So he suggested the ad and then produced it himself.
So any suggestion that the Dems are using him is a lie. How in the hell can a person use themself?
October 25th, 2006 at 2:07 pmYou guys are so naive. MJF has said he has stop taken his meds in the past to illustrate the affects of his disease. Keep drinking the kool-aid guys. What flavor is it this week?
October 25th, 2006 at 2:08 pmIf you know anthing about Parkinson’s, you will know that Fox was faking it.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:10 pmTroll
October 25th, 2006 at 2:16 pmI know about Parkinson’s. I have it. Fox isn’t faking.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:17 pmWell, one thing is certainly clear. All this sudden troll activity means the Republicans are scared shitless over the way voters will view their opposition to stem cell research. Rush was sent out to put a hit on Fox and it backfired. Now the trolls are desperately trying to drag his mammoth ass out of the fire. Good luck.
Rail #3: Social Security OR embryonic stem cell research
October 25th, 2006 at 2:19 pmBruce+Gorton,
It’s certainly not a bad thing, no. But Rush and his supporters make MJF out to be some kind of bad guy who is only out for himself. I think he has concern for all those who could benefit from stem cell research. That was my point.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:20 pm“Now the trolls are desperately trying to drag his mammoth ass out of the fire.”
Gonna need a Chinook helicopter for that job!
October 25th, 2006 at 2:21 pm#149 Gov
You guys are so naive. MJF has said he has stop taken his meds in the past to illustrate the affects of his disease. Keep drinking the kool-aid guys. What flavor is it this week?
Drinking kool-aid. That’s fresh.
I think we’ve already established that “the past” as you put it was seven years ago and his condition has changed since then. Regardless, it means nothing in the context of this ad. Prove he stopped taking his meds or STFU.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:22 pmI’d love to know what disability Douglas G. has that allows him to be like this.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:23 pmRobert Owen you are a half wit! So you do not want your taxes used for immoral purposes! I suppose waging a unprovoked war is moral, war profiteering is moral, killing 650,000 Iraquis is moral (all paid for by our tax dollars). The only thing that matters to you morons are embryos and fetuses.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:24 pm#157 Ceralor
I’d love to know what disability Douglas G. has that allows him to be like this.
I believe it’s called “cranial rectumitis”.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:26 pm#158 pr
The only thing that matters to you morons are embryos and fetuses.
Aw c’mon. Be fair now. They care about people in a persistent vegetative state, too.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:29 pmThe bottom line is that this was a political ad where the side with the media in their pockets (dems) have made it a crime to discuss Fox’s position without being named as insensitive or labeled a bigot. If he is going to jump out there and make debatable comments, he should expect a debate.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:30 pm#159 chimpeach
I believe it’s called “cranial rectumitisâ€.
I don’t see anyone else on here who is suffering from it using it as an excuse, but it does make sense.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:30 pmMore power to the cause and you Mr. Fox!
October 25th, 2006 at 2:34 pmActually my real problem is with people who claim disabilities who condemn public figures who have disabilities. If you really had the same disability you would understand, but having a different one makes you not understand the same thing. Don’t you want a cure for what you have, Douglas+G? There’s no way one will be ready for Fox in time, and I’m sure he knows that after 7+ years of this. He’s trying to stand up for all the others who can’t have a public image and be truly recognized. I see a lot of ads that have Joe Average with Problem Y talk about it but it doesn’t get anyone motivated! This is the same reason Bono and Oprah are leading the RED campaign — taking advantage of their publicity to help others.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:34 pm“…..named as insensitive or labeled a bigot”
Thy name is Rush Limbaugh!
October 25th, 2006 at 2:37 pmComment by Ceralor ,
Yes, I would like a cure. Would I “USE” my condition in the politcal sense? NO! There are enough REAL issues to be dealt with, that CAN be dealt with than the issue of stem cell research, by people who can NOT change what has happened already.
Now to address another turn in this thread, walmart, overseas jobs, cheaper production, etc.
I made a statement that higher wages contributed to higher prices, but really missed the boat when I should have also addressed getting the product cheaper from other sources.
I understand the need for making higher wages, and it is incumbent upon each of us, to make that happen for ourselves.
October 25th, 2006 at 2:57 pm#157,
Tell you what, spen 10 years in submarine forces, and then recieve a permanent, disableing injury, not due to negligence, receive an honorable discharge under medical conditions, progressivly get worse untill you cannot walk to your mailbox and back without the use of braces and/or crutches, and then speak up and ask the question again. Thats supposing of course they would even LET you serve in the armed forces, and int he Submarine Service.
October 25th, 2006 at 3:01 pmDid you even bother to read post 148? This was not a coordinated effort by the dems (and Bill O’Rielly has publicly stated that there is no “liberal media”), this was the effort of Michael J. Fox himself doing what YOU YOURSELF admitted (in post 141) was an approach you would use. So, do you support helping out your fellow man or are you more concerned about your own bottom line?
October 25th, 2006 at 3:02 pmOnce again this right-wing conservative has interjected his illfounded, misinformed opinion upon the masses. Even in the event that Mike Fox was not on his medication for the filming of the add, is that any different than the way the GOP markets terror to adavance there own agenda? As usual the egotistical political evangelical has failed to recognize the glaring hipocracy in all he does and says. While I am not ready to annoint Fox a hero, I cannot begin to understand the heartache and tragedy that has fallen on him and his family. Furthermore I cannot fathem the audacity it must take for one to speak so wrecklessly about the subject. It seems to me that the GOP’s concern for the sanctity of life applies to stem cell research and a womans right to chose, yet not to the thousands of American G.I.’s fighting a war in vain half way around the globe.
October 25th, 2006 at 3:03 pmTo Douglas+G You need to read the facts before you go crawling around on the floor in pain! The Meds. Cause the Shaking you idoit! For someone who can relate you just don’t know your facts!
October 25th, 2006 at 3:28 pmMr. Fox has also made a commerical endorsement for the Wisconsin governor. In other words, it sounds like he’s hitting a lot of states. McCaskill isn’t the only one. I’m sorry but for him to support someone in this state (Wisconsin) that he doesn’t give a darn about at any other time, is not going to influence me in the least bit, politics is getting far too theatrical for me all the way around.
October 25th, 2006 at 3:40 pmHere’s a link
regarding the prognosis for Parkinson’s.
It really could be possible that Fox allowed his symptoms to show ahead of time. Consider that Dr. Frist could have consulted with the White House, and then a call placed to Mr. Limbaugh advising him of the expert diagnosis.
I suppose it could be that Rush really does suffer from confusion ;>
October 25th, 2006 at 3:59 pmThere is a place in this universe for people like Rush Limbaugh who denigrate and harm others like Michael J. Fox. When you try to crush those who are ill, imprisoned, hungry, or naked, there is a place promised to those people. Many will cry, “Lord, Lord” and He will reply “I know you not.” These are the goats and eternal damnation is their reward for their cruel and calculating deeds. Those who provide care, charity, and shelter are the lambs and will sit at the feet of our Lord forever. Thus are the words of our Lord.
October 25th, 2006 at 4:11 pmUnfortunately for those who thrive on people bashing, and contrary to most belief, not all of us Republicans love Rush ( he is morally reprehensible, and there are plenty of fat people in this country, so there is no excuse for him not being able to pick on someone his own size, and not the wishful thinking between his legs) and there are still a few of us out there that have no problem thinking for ourselves. Dittoheads and Sheeple sound synonomous to me. MJ Fox is entitled to his opinion. There is a need for serious medical research in this country which would therefore eliminate the need for physicians and insurance companies to be bedfellows with the pharmaceutical comopanies who make money on keeping us sick. Does anyone think the cure is not already out there, and that big business Bush & Co. is not letting go of another dirty secret? Limbaugh is not media, and far from my idea of entertainment!!!
October 25th, 2006 at 4:14 pmMaybe Limbaugh wasn’t takeing his medicaition.
psychotic conservatives
psychotic: In the technical sense this term refers to a groups of severe mental illness where the person has periods of loses contact with reality. In a less formal manner, it is used to refer to the condition of having lost contact with reality. The person experiences severe impairment in his/her ability to function. All areas of a person’s life are usually effected. Common symptoms: Hallucinations, delusions, withdrawal, impairment of intellectual function, lose of personal care skills.
October 25th, 2006 at 4:16 pmMichael J. Fox is an ACTOR.
October 25th, 2006 at 4:17 pmActors jobs are to FAKE being one way or another. Kind of funny that suddenly now that there is an election, he is suddenly very sick. As soon as another tv role comes for this has-been, he will suddenly lose all symptoms. Gee, what a coincidence.
Sorry, but, i have to side with Rush on this one, i can tell when someone is acting and MJF should have stayed on back to the future, where killing innocent babies isnt done in the hopes that some disease might be cured at the cost of millions of innocent babies lives.
Michael J. Fox is a lousy actor and a pathetic dupe of the liberal media.
No sympathy for fakers.
It is obvious that almost all of you don’t listen to Rush. If you do you only listen in bites.
October 25th, 2006 at 4:19 pmNow that’s out of the way what I really want to say is I can not believe how vial and full of hate people are today. Anymore all people do is call names because they get something in their head and refuse to listen to more than one side of anything. Pure unadulterated ignorance, no one wants to be informed they want to fight at the drop of a hat. I see this in most of these postings. Most of the civil postings seem to be the one’s who ARE on the less left leaning side. The name calling, the profanity, wishing ill of people, I wonder what you’re like in your life with your family and friends.
You want to talk about mind numbed robots, that’s what a large percentage of the population is that only tunes into the main stream. They watch the 6 o’clock and 11 o’clock news fill in the rest with the garbage on T.V. they call entertainment. Please tell me where the examples are for the children of today. It isn’t just the responsibility of the parents (although they are first) but it is also the responsibility of family, friends and community to be examples. The examples I’ve been seeing are a bunch of adults needing timeouts.
Evelyn @178
“The name calling, the profanity, wishing ill of people, I wonder what you’re like in your life with your family and friends.”
Have you ever watched Bill O’Reilly of Sean Hannity on Faux News? Now those guys are pros at name calling and ill-will wishing!
And to think it’s the only channel that family man Dick Cheney will go on.
October 25th, 2006 at 4:40 pmRe comments from #49, it’s all well and good to forgive and forget. But bear in mind that, when you’re a public figure and when you have millions of people listening in to your show, you have a *duty* to speak responsibly. As a metaphor, it’s not good enough to stab someone in the chest with a knife, and simply utter an *oops*. No ordinary person can do that, and certainly not public figures.
Re Fox’s taking a stand on the issue, he has achieved what he set out to do, which is to stir up a debate which is sorely lacking, and so readily being discarded by a self-righteous prez. And to have a debate, you have to take sides. Have you thought of how that might be if Fox had sided with GOP?? (No doubt, Limbaugh will shed tears all over Fox.) This country has certainly lost its way in healthy debates. Lets bring it on.
And to have Limbaugh going after someone personally, rather than going after the issue/facts, that’s not a debate at all. Shame on him, and shame on all those who couldn’t face up to a grown-up debate, but resort to smear tactics.
October 25th, 2006 at 4:48 pmHi everyone,
October 25th, 2006 at 4:59 pmWell well well here we are in another nasty election, kind of makes you re-think how great of a country we are not! Ironically gas prices go down stock market goes up Republicans are desperate it’s awesome seeing them squirm and squirm they deserve for being such lieing,hateful and disgraceful scumbags. As soon as this election is over gas prices will go back up your stocks will lose money. And yes the republicans will not lose control of house or senate because my fellow voters they are stealing elections with these electronic voting machines and this year will prove it. Wake up my friends why do you think supreme just-asses got involved in handing Bush his job cause he would have lost if they counted those votes. Then we all of sudden were able to get electronic voting machines (even though we couldn’t afford it supposedly) by the next election specifically in Florida and Ohio wow the 2 states the repugs have to have (Ironic ah NOT)! And yes scumbags like Rush,Coulter,Hannity and the hateful Repugs come out and show us their un moral,un compassionate ,and self-righteous hateful ways. Really sad what Rush said about MJF and even sadder that righties on this sight are saying he didn’t take his meds before airing how sick. Wonder who they got that from(RUSH)! Get ready my fellow voters for nother stolen election and yes it is true IT GETS WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER and why because voters don’t do their homework,don’t vote on the issues anymore they vote on looks,morality,hate, discrimination. When and only when people vote for the better of this country for ALL will it start getting better! Last thing just remember this all polls show repugs losing by large numbers yet miracously they will win the races they need to maintain facism! Maybe then my fellow voters you will see that they are stealing elections! Too bad it will be too late!
C.C. orth Carolina
But why do you think this hand is shaking ?
October 25th, 2006 at 5:05 pmRUSH for presidente!!
MJ Fox for Back to the Future 4!!
October 25th, 2006 at 5:15 pmRush for President!
MJ Fox for Back to the Future 4!
October 25th, 2006 at 5:17 pmSo everyone is down on Rush for stating the obvious? That being, that the LEFT will use ANY method: homeless person,black church burnings ( of which there were none),internet discoveries,hanging chads,denials of sexual misconducts,misdirections as to their party’s tolernce of gays,TOTAL lack of respect for elected offices.President Truman once remarked to General(4 star) patton that he, Patton, may not approve or like Harry but he will respect the office of the President or hell will be paid. Give ‘em Hell George. These truths are SELF EVIDENT, people.
October 25th, 2006 at 5:18 pmUmmm, funny how you are all think you’re better than Rush. By attacking him…how ironic Typical liberals.
In his book he mentioned he goes off his meads for political shock value..and that’s the truth. There is nothing wrong with Rush stating the obvious…because Fox is “using” his disease for his political purposes.
Also, republicans support stem cells…just adult stem cells that aren’t harvested from dead/killed babies. Those damn conservatives and there “morals”. In addition, there is a 0% success with embryonic cells (they are unstable, cause tumors). That’s a fact jack.
October 25th, 2006 at 5:19 pmTo #183, this is America, we do speak ENGLISH!!! I think even Rush would tell you that!
October 25th, 2006 at 5:21 pmI find it ironic Rush would actually stoop so low to say these things about Fox and his illness and then start spouting complaints about Fox stumping for your vote.
There’s very little difference between the Republican challenger in Maryland’s race where he has a person who uses a cane or crutch to get around stumping for your vote to get the conservative into Maryland’s open seat.
Why is she permitted to speak on her candidates’s behalf and their issues and Fox isn’t? Rush can whine all he wants about Fox, but don’t call the kettle black mr. “I can’t do without my painkillers” addiction.
October 25th, 2006 at 5:37 pmDITTO for #184!!!
October 25th, 2006 at 5:39 pm#85 Killing babies is also pretty bad.
So, lets compare Rush’s mean remarks (albeit, Rush said it in context with Fox’s admission he uses “shock” tactics to gain sympathy in his book).
Then compare Fox’s comments: lying to voters that republicans don’t support stem cells (they do) AND that killing babies so that I may have a better life is a swell thing to do.
October 25th, 2006 at 5:51 pmSouthpark on stem cell research:
October 25th, 2006 at 5:56 pmhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=JnpkASR3q_M
Where have American values sunk to now? Rush Limbaugh is not only wrong to attack a sick person inaccurately, but Michael J Fox is totally correct to challenge the superstitions about stem cell research.
Thousands of embryos die every day due to inadequate food and dirty water – and I do not see the American Conservative doing much about it. What Rush L supports is irrational war that kills hundreds of thousands and he has the termerity to try and undermine a valid self funded political speech.
Given a choice of Rush L or Michael J, well it is easy to see which one is honest and which is insane.
October 25th, 2006 at 5:58 pm#185 tonycaudill
So everyone is down on Rush for stating the obvious? That being, that the LEFT will use ANY method: homeless person,black church burnings ( of which there were none),internet discoveries,hanging chads,denials of sexual misconducts,misdirections as to their party’s tolernce of gays,TOTAL lack of respect for elected offices.President Truman once remarked to General(4 star) patton that he, Patton, may not approve or like Harry but he will respect the office of the President or hell will be paid. Give ‘em Hell George. These truths are SELF EVIDENT, people.
Thank you for that heap of disconnected right-wing whining points. The “LEFT will use ANY method”? How about surrounding themselves with “Snowflake babies” for a cheesy photo op while ignoring the 400,000 other little snowflakes in the freezer that are never going to be babies? Is that the kind of extreme you’re talking about?
Yeah, good thing it’s only the left that does that kind of stuff.
October 25th, 2006 at 6:09 pmAnd this is Limpy’s supposed apology (I have added the boldface):
From the 3 p.m. ET hour of the October 25 edition of CNN Newsroom:
LEMON: We should note that Rush Limbaugh offered an apology, saying: “Now, people are telling me that they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial. All right, then, I stand corrected. … So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and will apologize to Michael J. Fox if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act.”
Now, after his apology, Limbaugh added this: “Michael J. Fox is allowing his illness to be exploited, and in the process, he is shilling for a Democratic politician.”
Some apology: “I stand corrected …IF I am wrong” If you’re ‘corrected’, then you were WRONG! Definitely NOT an apology. What is it with right-wingers that they cannot admit when they’re wrong?
October 25th, 2006 at 6:13 pm#192
It is not wrong to question Fox’s motives of a POLITICAL commercial. You liberals blast the president as a liar, a killer, among many others. You speculate that 9/11 was staged, that the president went to war for oil, and many other “bush is evil” scare tactcs.
So Rush, who reads from Fox’s book that he does use shock tactics, is not allowed to question it? He can’t even discuss it?
As for your second point, we do a lot to help…but it’s not our fault for the suffering of other nations (i know the US doesn’t have “Thousands of embryos die every day due to inadequate food and dirty water”, so I’m assuming other nations).
And I know you would have no problem with Saddam torturing, raping, and killing people…as long as it didn’t interfere with your peter-pan, let’s talk everything out world, live and let live fantasy land.
MJF is lying about candidates “non-support” for stem cells. LYING!
October 25th, 2006 at 6:18 pm#185, the only thing that is obvious is that you want to kiss Limpy’s big fat pimply ass. So, Limpy’s despicable personal remarks about Michael J. Fox should really be interpreted as totally disconnected and nonsensical blathering, i.e., your post? I doubt if even Rush would thank you for translating his words that way.
October 25th, 2006 at 6:29 pmI also think it was distasteful, and wrong that he intentionally did not take his medication before shooting the ad. It was decpetive. Do i think rush was wrong? Yes and No. He should have found out all the answers before calling him out. Do i think Fox was also wrong? Yes, because he USED his disease to mislead people concerning the effectiveness of current treatment, and it’s availability.
I also hope that one day we have a cure, but the bottom line here is, the people who are asking for your votes, are in now way going to be able to bring about the changes they are trying to insinuate they can.
Comment by Douglas+G. — October 25, 2006 @ 10:21 am
We thank you for your service but he said “chance of hope” I have no idea what your problem is. I’m not sure what planet you’re on where people don’t speak out against perceived injustices they relate to but it’s not earth.
Also, as you know by now, if Fox didn’t take his medication he would be the opposite of what he was. Movement is the side effect of the medication. Please do some research before you call someone a liar.
I don’t know why you support an administration that sends people to fight but gets out of their own service and cuts back on veterens benefits. Not one of those assholes didn’t use a deferment including Rush for a boil on his ass. Why you insist on supporting pansies I don’t know.
October 25th, 2006 at 6:31 pm#190 John
If you don’t know the difference between a baby and a blastocyst, you really shouldn’t be commenting on this. Go ask mom if you can watch TV now.
October 25th, 2006 at 6:32 pm#198
I’m quite aware of the term, but unfortuantely your “1984 new speak” still means the same thing as a little human, aka, a baby.
You don’t have any authority to determine wha I consider a baby.
Thank you again for not challenging the ideas, but just trying to degrade an minimize me through insults. Typical liberals…too bad you can’t actually debate without bullying and name calling.
October 25th, 2006 at 6:41 pm#
#85 Killing babies is also pretty bad.
So, lets compare Rush’s mean remarks (albeit, Rush said it in context with Fox’s admission he uses “shock†tactics to gain sympathy in his book).
Then compare Fox’s comments: lying to voters that republicans don’t support stem cells (they do) AND that killing babies so that I may have a better life is a swell thing to do.
Comment by John — October 25, 2006 @ 5:51 pm
If you believe a baby is a few cells you are just ridiculous. Tell you what, if I remove your organs and you are still alive you’ve got me. Please stop masturbating now, you’re committing genocide. And since millions of stem cells are being thrown out every day with no use, why aren’t you at fertilization clinics trying to save lives?
Limiting science because of backward dark age idiots like you is an embarassment to our country. Go read about Jesus and his pet dinosaur and stay out of scientific debates.
Trying to have sex with children is also pretty bad. Another Republican strong suit.
October 25th, 2006 at 6:44 pmNow think about this: We have repeatedly pointed out that the symptoms demonstrated by Fox, in that advert, are clear symptoms of the medication. That is how it looks if he took the medication. If he didn’t, he would look rigid. He was not rigid, he was figiting all over the place.
So we are saying that what Limbaugh said was both a disgusting slur and untrue. It was a slur said with a reckless disregard for the truth. That conservatives feel the deep, inborn, inbred probably, need to defend Limbaugh’s statements, and yes Darryl I have a lot of respect for you not doing after all of these others and I do not include you in this, that they feel this need to defend Rush Limbaugh when he was clearly not just in the wrong, but acting a sick, depraved pig, shows just how morally inferior you conservatives really are.
You should be ashamed of yourselves, but you lost that ability long ago, probably when you were a bunch of whiny kids.
October 25th, 2006 at 6:48 pm# 200
Ok, first, Foley (R) had inappropriate behavior (not sex, typical liberal lying) with a 16 year old (which is 100% legal age in D.C.).
Should I really go over the democrats sex scandals? Really, comon here, you can’t be that silly…
And steve, you’re just a few cells…can I kill you for the “just the possibility” that we can use you for spare body parts? Just cause it can’t talk, doesn’t mean it’s not alive.
Southpark on stem cell research:
October 25th, 2006 at 6:54 pmhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=JnpkASR3q_M
#201
Questioning the motives of a politcal ad used to sway sympathy votes in not slurring, it’s discussing.
Plus, MJF has stated if he did or did not take them…so you are actually just guesssing. So please don’t use the “we are saying” line, instead I suggest “i’m guessing it’s true, and don’t like my views challenged by Rush…so what I’m saying…”.
October 25th, 2006 at 6:58 pm+ #201
You say “…Rush Limbaugh when he was clearly not just in the wrong, but acting a sick, depraved pig, shows just how morally inferior you conservatives really are.”
Is this in reponse to Rush questioning the motives of a political ad? Are you telling me if I question a sick person’s motives in a politca ad…I’m morally inferior?
Really, I see. I was wrong to question anything I saw posted here…me very bad, morally inferior man. hahaa
October 25th, 2006 at 7:05 pmJohn
Rush didn’t do that. What Rush did, was he accused Fox of faking his symptoms and his illness. This is what makes him a scumbag, and you a scumbag for supporting him.
Someone posted a video earlier of just how Rush did this: Rush decided it would be funny to try and mimic Fox’s movements. The man is a pig, and so are you John.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:05 pm#205
Rush can question wheter Fox was exaggerating, you just don’t like him…so you degrade him. Fox states, in his book that he does this on occasion…are you unable to comprehend that!
And you sir, are the pig. I’m discussing, you are name calling.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:10 pmDo you know what this reminds me of: Ann Coulter and the 9/11 widows.
She called them the Witches of East Brunswick and then accused them of being happy about their husband’s deaths. Yeah like losing a loved one is a hell of party worthy experience now isn’t it?
Do you know what you righties did? What tactic you took? Oh but she is making a point about sacred cows. Yeah like making fun of anyone’s grief is considered tasteful or acceptable.
Now you bastards are taking the same tactic all over again. Guess what, try criticising the message some time. try not making fun of people with terminal illnesses, and you know what? Try acting like human beings because so far I feel I just insulted pigs.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:12 pmRush Limpdick is a cowardly chickenhawk with NO balls. He copped a draft deferment for a cyst on his ass. As a medic during the Vietnam war, I personally changed the bandages on GIs with that very same affliction. Limpdick is a fat-ass, sorry lump of shit.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:13 pmJohn
Fox, in his book, stated that he didn’t take his meds when he spoke to Congress. He also stated that sometimes, when he didn’t need them, he didn’t take them.
He did not state that he exagerated his symptoms.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:17 pm#207
Ummm, Ann Coulter stated these woman used their sympathy to force an agenda…it’s kinda like dejavu.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:18 pmI frequently listen to rush because I know that one of these days he is going to have a stroke on air and I really don’t want to miss it.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:25 pmJohn
Shove it up your ass dickhead. You will excuse anything, and claim that you have standards. You have no standards. You are just scum, lower then scum, and you always will be.
This is my last post to you.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:26 pm#209 Why did he not take his meds before congress? The answer is to exaggerate the symptoms in order to maximize the effect. And you know what, I don’t really have a problem with that. I can see things from his view…and he is fighting for what him (and others) believe is best.
What I am against, is people name calling, without understanding the other’s views (called discussing, just in case others on this blog are unaware of the concept). Rush has as much right to question the motives of a political commercial, since he obviously is against stem cells from babies…so he can discuss it without being “morally inferior”. I don’t remember Rush calling MJK anything to that effect.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:26 pm#212 Thank you for proving my point :)
October 25th, 2006 at 7:28 pm[...] VIDEO: Michael J. Fox Responds To Limbaugh Smear [...]
October 25th, 2006 at 7:36 pmRush is an IDIOT !!! Fits well with the Bush administration.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:45 pmthis scumbag knows ALOT about pill popping!!
October 25th, 2006 at 7:49 pmThis scumbag knows ALOT about popping pills!
October 25th, 2006 at 7:56 pmMichael J Fox is a Hollywood retard, that was before he got ill – Now he’s ill he’s a good puppet for the Liberal cause – and like a typical Liberal pawn is used by Democrats as a last minute desperation move to get empathy votes for a losing party of liars! Rush can’t criticize him? Why not? Ill or not he jumped in the political ring – if he’s big enough to stand up and open his mouth, he can take his hits like all the rest – Like Rush who is legally deaf! Don’t see Rush playing the “poor ol’ me” card! Plus Fox is DEAD WRONG. I think all that make believe flipping back and forth in time has confused his reality.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:59 pmLook, for all the posturing and flames being bandied about, very little is actually being said. So I, being the fair minded person that I am, will translate and hope that some people actually listen and not fly off the handle.
Manipulation is all a part of the political game. I know, and any half way intelligent person knows it. It IS within the realm of possibility that Mr. Fox did go off medication for a political ad. He’s got an agenda just like everyone else involved in any major issue. It wouldn’t be the first time such tactics were used. Animal Rights wackos use emotional manipulation in showing photos of abused animals and the like to forward their agenda; and in the intrest of fairness I must say that there are those within the Pro-Life community who use photos of aborted fetuses to evoke emotional manipulation as well. To say that Mr. Fox is somehow beyond and above using such tactics is just naive.
I also notice that while a good deal of name calling is being done, no one is really stepping up and confronting the issue. Why not just grow up and leave the junior high name calling at the door; because whether or not you like him Rush Limbaugh has just the same right to free speach that the rest of you have.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:10 pmBut it was ok for the republicans to us Terry Schiavo though wasn’t it.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:16 pmActually I feel what happened to her was a bloody travesty. Starving a woman to death is hardly ethical OR moral behaviour. I, like many Christians, felt that care should have been given over to her parents. They wanted to take care of her, but her husband wanted her to die.
Another issue I know but you DID bring it up.
The cynic in me does think that on some level they were using her, BUT there were groups who were genuinely horrified at what was being proposed and were working behind the scense to correct a horrible injustice.
Nice try by the way. +10 for trying to change the subject but minus a million for lack of originality.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:22 pmWow, name calling. The favorite weapon of the purple kool-aide drinkers. I have not read all these posts, but the dummies all get in line to bash Rush when that isn’t even the issue. Everyone who is in the least bit informed about stem cell research knows that the reasearch done on stem cell from fetuses have had absolutly no success in any way!On the other hand, the research done on cells taken from the adult brain have made great strides. So what is this about? It is about some fella (Michael) who has a political agenda and uses his “shaking” and “feel sorry for me” ploy to get that agenda done. Of course the dummies will fall for it. It is not about stem cell research, it is about getting some Politician elected. There is a Politcal Party who would stoop to the lowest in order to do that. We all know which party that is. They are using the little monkey to do just that. “Just go in front of the camera and flap youself aroud a little and tell the people that I support stem cell research, ok Michael? Believe me, there are enough of them who will fall for it.” Stem cell research will never go anywhere. It is just another welfare program for educated idiots who can’t get a real job. Like teachers, city workers, state workers, government workers who are part of the “Working welfare” Program. If stem cell research was really viable, there would be many companies with real scientist, doing real research, and positioning themselves and thier companies to make REAL PROFITS! This makes real sense.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:26 pmI hereby have no more respect for this Michael
October 25th, 2006 at 8:31 pmI had a boss previously who also had parkinson’s disease. Like Michael her meds made her tremor and shake.
I am sad to hear another person above who is also disabled talk about another’s pain and suffering like he knew what it was. We don’t know–each person’s is different. My husband is 100% disabled and is just living each day knowing that his time is near. His pain and suffering is something I cannot comprehend, because I don’t have HIS illness. I married him knowing he would die someday from his illnesses and I support him as best I can. Whatever happened to love and compassion in this world.
MJF is not lying, I saw my boss do the same kinds of movements at work. We also asked what was wrong and if we could help her. She said “these are side effects from my meds, nothing more, without them I couldn’t work at all”. She was GRATEFUL for the simple fact that she could move at all. The medications side effects were awful to her as well but the other option was being bedridden. What would YOU do?
Good for you Michael. Keep speaking out. Don’t let political stupidity keep you from talking about the bigger and more important issue:
A CURE FOR PARKINSON’S.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:05 pmWatch the commercial, watch the clip above, and watch any recent appearance where he was paid to act on TV. If you liberal moon-bats can’t see there is an obvious difference, then you are just blinded by your hatred of Rush. period. And I don’t even like the guy! Its obvious!
October 25th, 2006 at 9:52 pmAnn Coulter stated these woman used their sympathy to force an agenda…it’s kinda like dejavu.
Comment by John
Yeah, like the way Bush used the sympathy Americans felt for New Yorkers after 9/11 to force his agenda.
But I guess that didn’t upset you.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:03 pmI hereby have no more respect for this Michael
Comment by JimmyJimms
I’m sure he’s just emotionally shattered, learning JJ Wingnut has no respect for him.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:04 pmIf you liberal moon-bats [blah, blah, blah] And I don’t even like the guy! Its obvious!
Comment by aaron — October 25, 2006 @ 9:
Whats obvious is your willingness to shill for ‘ol Limpy.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:09 pmIts interesting that whenever someone brings up an instance of liberal manipulation that the response is always to try and dodge the issue by bringing up supposed manipulation by conservatives. Its a good dodge but hardly good debating skills. The issue isn’t whether or not republicans use manipulation to get their message out; its whether or not Mr. Fox (at least in this case) exagerated the side effects of his medication to emphasize his disease more.
I’d also like to take this moment to thank JimmyJimms for pointing out the truth about stem cell research. I’ve said the same thing on other forums; but alas the common response seems to be “shut up” or that I’m a jerk. Interesting how no one really wants to address the issue at hand.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:10 pmThe only thing I want to say about all these comments is this… Why can’t these issues be debated in a civilized manner? All this name calling and slandering is shameful.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:10 pmDialog with these 30 percenters is useless, they don’t respond to reason and their inate prejudices prevent them from even understanding your message. Let Christ sort them out.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:10 pmThe only thing I want to say about all these comments is this… Why can’t these issues be debated in a civilized manner? All this name calling and slandering is shameful.
Comment by Star
I’d have to agree. Its high time we stopped with the juvenile name calling and actually talked about the issues. Kudoes to you.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:14 pm#213 John
Why did he not take his meds before congress? The answer is to exaggerate the symptoms in order to maximize the effect.
No, not to “exaggerate the symptoms.” To demonstrate what the symptoms look like without meds.
Exaggerate is what you do when you call an adult human being a “few cells” or call a blastocyst a baby. Actually, it’s not even exaggeration, it’s just plain bullshit. Calling a blastocyst a baby is like calling a baby a senior citizen. Apparently, I must be a fetus.
In Limbaugh land, it’s common practice to distort things beyond all recognition that way, but not here.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:23 pmThis is essentially the same debate as the medical marijuana issue. For decades, the Right has had fits whenever research into the possible positive benefits of THC was suggested. Since certain states have taken the lead and decriminalized it for medicinal purposes, making it less a legal issue and more a medical issue, researchers have been making positive discoveries.
There is new technique for getting stem cells, and it doesn’t involve destroying an embryo. If that becomes a viable technique, will all you righties endorse it?
October 25th, 2006 at 10:23 pm#223 JimmyJimms
So what is this about? It is about some fella (Michael) who has a political agenda and uses his “shaking†and “feel sorry for me†ploy to get that agenda done.
Wow, total fabrication. It’s hard to argue with a fantasy.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:27 pmMy name is Douglas G. I may be retarded but at least I don’t wipe my feces all over the wall…yet.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:33 pmStorms, smart as every, eh?
October 25th, 2006 at 10:36 pmboner 2, grow some humanity you fricking robot.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:39 pm#224 That is because you are an idiot.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:40 pmI guess the Halleluia choir decided to take a powder. Typical.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:41 pmNo doubt it is a little off-putting to critisize MJF, especially about his disease. I am sure, however, that Mr. L’s comments were aimed, primarily, at those who would shamelessly influence a political debate by means of a sick celebrity. In addition, those who would also benefit from more government intrusion into medicine and the cementing of the slaughter of the pre-born, would have us believe that Government is the ONLY way to get anything done. Whether it is the trotting out of MJF, or the rolling out of Christopher Reeve, the proponents of stem cell research would belie the existence stem cell programs that are pressing forward with other- than- embrionic cells. They would also have us beleive that unless it’s being done their way, that it’s not being done at all. ( incidently, if the symtoms are prevalent only after the patient is removed from the medication,, then what were they before???)
October 25th, 2006 at 10:48 pm
What’s typical is the asenine and quite frankly idiocy of some of the responses to this article. Anyone can throw around swears and make belittling and condescending statements about other people and their opinions.
Why is it exactly that it seems to be a crime to question Mr. Fox’s motivations here? Its a fact that he has an agenda or at least stands to gain if the person he’s pulling for gets elected or re-elected as the case may be. This is yet another example of the “how dare you question the integrity of this brave person” mentality that’s destroying the debating skills of the country.
For those that haven’t picked up on it I’ll come right out and say it. Yes I am in fact both a Christian and a conservative on a majority of the issues. I’ve yet to see a single person here debate the substance of what was said. In fact the only thing I’ve seen for a large portion of posts is nothing but junior high level name calling and the general temper tantrums I’d expect out of a two year old.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:51 pmDouglas G is a phony
October 25th, 2006 at 11:06 pmIt seems that christians don’t have a corner on hate or is all the venam really love.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:17 pmRush Limbaugh is the best thing to ever happen to the Democrats!
October 25th, 2006 at 11:29 pmIt’s obvious christians have a corner on hate.just look at all the love here.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:31 pm
Great actor. Probably a nice guy. Hideous disease. Once an actor always an actor. I can’t take any actor seriously in the political context. Most are not educated and naive I think. Michael Fox sure looks like he’s hamming it up in that video. Everybody’s thinking it, Rush is just saying it. Rush is a completely necessary force in this country. The Dems are the biggest bs-ers and liars on the planet. Democrats are just plain evil people. I’d be thrilled if no Democrat was ever elected again. I hope Rush keeps pulling their pants down.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:39 pm#242 Richard Morant
incidently, if the symtoms are prevalent only after the patient is removed from the medication,, then what were they before???
I can help you with this one.
First mistake: the symptoms are not “prevalent” after the patient is removed from medication. They are apparent after the patient is removed from medication.
Second: What were they before? They were being treated and mitigated by the medication. That’s why he was taking the medication. To mitigate the symptoms.
You learned something new, didn’t you.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:43 pmThe sad truth is that Limbaugh’s cruel and crude comments will no doubt succeed in negating the impact of the noble Mr. Fox’s brave statements.
Do not underestimate the power of this blowhard to move the ignorant right wing zealots; and there are legions of them in Missouri.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:43 pm#242 Richard Morant
In addition, those who would also benefit from more government intrusion into medicine and the cementing of the slaughter of the pre-born, would have us believe that Government is the ONLY way to get anything done.
Government intrusion into medicine? Gee, you guys don’t seem to mind government intruding in people’s bedrooms, doctors’ offices, phone bills, library books, e-mails and Google searches. But, you draw the line at government assisting in stem cell research which doesn’t actually kill any babies, even though right-wing bible thumpers fantasize that it does.
“Slaughter of the pre-born”: Great word, pre-born. If a fetus is a pre-born baby, can I call myself a post-born zygote?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:51 pm#248 Pat
Everybody’s thinking it, Rush is just saying it.
Nope, just the ignorant assholes are thinking it.
Rush is a completely necessary force in this country. The Dems are the biggest bs-ers and liars on the planet.
Black is white. Day is night. Bush is a genius. Rumsfeld’s up for the Nobel Peace prize. Limbaugh is a warm and compassionate human being.
Do you not understand what the word “lie” means? Would you know the truth if it jumped up and bit you on the ass?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:59 pmRush is a strong bush adversary. World policy has been set since 911 by 911. Recent developements like scholastic phd thesis clearly implicating explosives brought down the towers, thermite used to cut the steel, pools of molten steel 8 weeks after the incident, tower # 7 being pulled, was this a black flag operation. Look at the evidence and decide for yourself Google Video search 911. This is going to hurt. john
October 25th, 2006 at 11:59 pm#234
Please read #220 for context…except his opinion of being the great moderator :) Then read the bold part of #225 for Fox’s root “agenda” (I use agenda in a non-negative way…but don’t know a P.C. way to say that). He wants every possibility of a cure, and will try to persuade people in any way he can…and he is doing so ethically. Maybe the debate is good, maybe some lone voice out there whose research really has been suppressed come forward. My problem, is that a society needs to draw some lines…and I understand that you’re lines are different then mine…but need “lines” need to compromise.
I love MJF movies when I was growing up (I’m 30, not 12 #198)…Secret to my success is still on my top 10. But MJF was giving a one sided statement in a political ad. I’m going to question the motives of every ad…and a political add even more. MJF was doing what he thinks is right, and you can’t deny him that…but your doing the exact same thing to name-call those who criticize those who disagree with him by not debating the issue on merits.
IMHO, in regard to stem cells, the core two root views here can be briefly summarized. The first root view is that all “life” is valuable. Life is a unique gift, whether it be in a spiritual or ethical way. Pro-life, anti-embryonic stem cell research, those against animal cruelty, those against governments that oppress it’s people and cause suffering, vegans, etc.
That second root view is that “intelligent life†is valuable..and that non-intelligent life is subservient to intelligent life (not implying a cruel way). People in this “intelligent life” category have a responsibility to manage its society to maximize the benefit of all the intelligent life, while minimizing the pain and suffering of non-intellegent life. I hope explained that in a non-biased way, because I am more on the former view…I won’t bias you with the groups that I believe fit in that category.
I was explaining to my pro-life boss the other day about how a state abortion ban is play this Nov…and doesn’t have protections for rape, incest, and health of the mother. ..I could never allow that, even if I am pro-life (what if it was my daughter who was raped). He brought up a good point as a rebuttal…if all life is valuable, then that baby is just as valuable as a wanted baby…what if you where that baby, would you be a less valuable being because of the conditions of your conception?
I’ve read freakanomics, I understand how unwanted children negatively effect society, increase crime…even though I’m concerned about his data correlation. I just would compromise on protecting life, on maybe allowing 1st trimester, with parental notification for under 18…with 2nd and beyond available for health. I just believe that a fetus does feel pain, after a certain point, and if it should at least have the same laws and protections that is enacted against the cruelty of animals.
If only people could receive money for giving their children up for adoption (less then in vitro)…it would be a win-win because there are so many couples that can’t have kids. The only problem is the incentive is at odds with human nature, and I would assume encourage corruption, crime (baby factories), etc.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:03 am#253 I know some fireman who we’re at the scene too who wold disagree. Being a PHD doesn’t make you right.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:09 am#243
the point is not to question M. Fox’s motivation; rather, the question posed is whether R. Limpbaugh was justified in his comment. Mr. Fox’s motivation for doing what he does is of no moment. The question posed (or so i thought) in this forum was whether Mr. Limpbaugh’s comments were appropriate.
being a christian and a conservative (or better yet, a human being) i would hope that you could see 1) what the issue being discussed is; and 2) that Mr. Limpbaugh’s comments were extremely inapropriate…regardless of what ones personal politics are on the matter.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:24 am” http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/parkinsons_disease/parkinsons_disease.htm
October 26th, 2006 at 12:38 amhttp://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/parkinsons_disease/parkinsons_disease.htm
October 26th, 2006 at 12:39 amOctober 26th, 2006 at 12:40 am
#256 I don’t see how Rush questioning the dramatic visual effect of an actor, doing a commercial, who has …is extremely inappropriate.
I could agree that is comments we’re mildly inappropriate :) But the question should be asked, and is not forbidden. This wasn’t a speech, a charity event, or public appearance…it was a political ad…slamming the opponent of stem cells as heartless. I am not heartless because I am anti-embryonic stem cell research…quite the contrary.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:41 amI am not heartless because I am anti-embryonic stem cell research…quite the contrary.
Comment by JohnG+
Baloney. Your understanding of the topic (as evidenced in you posts) shows a profound willful ignorance of the issue. I could care less why you think your religious views entitle you to decide whether this avenue of research is or isn’t taboo. Christ probably didn’t approve of abortions, but he did heal the afflicted - someone who gets short shrift in you moralistic formulations.
October 26th, 2006 at 1:02 amAMERICA WE HAVE A PROBLEM!!! The corporations which support Limbaugh through their advertising need to be identified and their products BOYCOTTed. We need to start by strategically targeting a single corporate advertiser to begin the BOYCOTT at a single radio station, say for example, KMOX radio in St. Louis, MO. Then we need to slowly spread the BOYCOTT of this particular corporations product(s) on an planned schedule to gradually involve all radio stations nationwide that sponsor Limbaugh’s broadcast of BS propaganda 3 hours/day X 5 days/week. Once the sales of corporation #1 product(s) are reduced (it will only require a few percentage points loss in sales). We’ll get their attention. Next, we need to add corporation#2 to the mix following roughly the same procedure. Continue to add corporation#3 through corporation#N to the mix. Eventually, Limbaugh’s BS broadcasts will be without sponsors and the economic incentive of having this A&& H)$e on the air will disappear. It will then be time to target one by one over time O’Rielly, Hannity, …. Ingram and etc and render them mute as they become members of an ever growing list of “Talk Radio Has Beens”.
Apparently, the concept of professional journalism is dead so it is now important for the consumer to let their jounalistic expectations be known. Let’s ASAP.
October 26th, 2006 at 1:03 amI don’t think people took offense at the question (if a question was posed by RL); rather they took offense at the manner the “question” was presented. it wasn’t presented in the form of an interogatory, it was an acusation. Now, RL is a shock jock and he makes his living by living on the edge; but even he (and his viewers) should be aware that calling a genuinly ill person a “fake” in a demeaning tone is highly inappropriate. RL did not attack why MF was in the ads, he was attacking MF, apparantly, for being sick. which is sick in and of itself.
now, had RL said that MF was being a left wing posterchild or using his disease for political gain there likely would not have been such a huge hubub about the affair. however, making representations that a person with a disease like parkinsons is “faking” their symptoms is callous, and, extremely inappropriate.
not taking medication to demonstrate what true symptoms look like is not the same thing as “faking” those symptoms.
October 26th, 2006 at 1:15 amWhether or not one is for embryonic stem cell research, whether or not one agrees with MJF’s motive for speaking, Limbaugh’s remarks were cruel and uncalled for. Sadly, that seems to be the way of today’s Republican base. If there is a Hell, Limbaugh already has a reserved parking spot by the front door. If I were taught correctly in my oh so many years of evangelical Christian upbringing, the goal of a Christian is to live as Christlike a life as possible. I don’t recall Christ mocking the ill, turning away from those with physical, mental, emotional or moral shortcomings. His anger, as I recall, was with those who made a mockery of the Temple…those who wore their religion on their sleaves, professing one thing and living another. Hmm, sounds like many of our “elected” neocons and their right wing “Christian” base…I don’t understand how someone can claim Christianity and be cruel, unforgiving and pius. Chritianity is a humble religion…”for the meek shall enherit the Earth…” The beligerent blowhards who support those that make a mockery of our beliefs will someday find that they, too, have a reserved parking spot right there by Limbaugh, Bush, Cheney and the rest of the modern day pharisees.
October 26th, 2006 at 1:31 amLet’s see… Fox can act and remain fixed when doing a TV show, but he couldn’t manage control for a 30 second tv spot with as many takes as they want to take? Give me a break. Folks defending Fox, deserve such exploitation – they are brainless idiots too dumb and too partisan to care about logic or the truth.
The folks making the commercial did it on purpose with Fox’s willing consent.
Rush may be an equally partisan idiot – but he was right, the commercial is selfploitation.
October 26th, 2006 at 1:35 am#261 Again, you just don’t get it. It’s illegal to harvest human cells from dead babies. Just because MJF thinks it’s a possibility to help him, doesn’t make it right or the correct thing to do. I understand you don’t care if a life was destroyed for the benefit of of “intelligent life” (see #254). Also, as icing on the cake of this being the best decision, is that embryonic stem cells, even with all the countries that permit it all over the world (and they have better test scores in science than the USA)
BTW, I’m agnostic. I just don’t believe in butchering living things for my personal benefit is a society I want to raise my family in. Actually, I have never listened to Rush either…but that doesn’t change anything.
Anyone who can’t see MJK willfully manipulated commercial…just doesn’t understand that every political ad is manipulation.
October 26th, 2006 at 1:42 amI’m curious, how many people who posted here actually listened the majority of the two 3-hour talk shows Rush dedicated to this topic? Or did you just read the one-liner almost all the news organizations decided to pull from his monologs and make your decisions based on that?
Seems to me ad-hominem attacks are so much easier that doing your own thinking…
October 26th, 2006 at 1:42 am#265 Why do people who aren’t religious, always preach to the religious about how hey should act or behave?
hahaha
October 26th, 2006 at 1:45 am#264 pass some of that chronic dude
October 26th, 2006 at 1:48 amFox filmed a commercial in 2004 for Arlen Spector, who was supporting stem cell research. Where was Rush’s outrage and anger then?
October 26th, 2006 at 2:31 am@271 Do you have a link to that, I’de be interested to see it.
October 26th, 2006 at 2:41 am#267
Oh, I get it all right. “Dead babies” is your lame way of dodging debate.
Do you support forcing a woman to give birth to a deformed fetus, even if it seriously harms or kills her?
October 26th, 2006 at 2:52 ampass some of that chronic dude
Comment by JohnG+
Love the condescention, Mr. Christian.
October 26th, 2006 at 2:55 am#273 What am I dodging. That I believe that a fetus that is killed, is in fact, a life that was killed (or dead). Please ask me a proper question with more information.
#274 Obviously you don’t know the definition of agnostic is. Also, I never said I was vegan, but I do know vegans that prize all life.
It’s funny how you use “Mr. Christian.” as a insult. Not all those opposed to purposely killing over a million potential humans a year in the united states needs to believe in god. I wish there was one, but I just use religion as a moral code that has held society together. Even with the inquests, the few bad priests, and many overly strict parents…religion has helped the poor, promoted education, kept the libraries for thousands of years, given comfort to many, inspired great things, and maybe it’s quite possible that in our multidimensional, string theory world of ours, that maybe some super energy being came over and told us to love one another. I don’t know, but I do know that deformed deformed fetuses should have the same rights of deformed 30 year olds.
I’m immune to your liberal name calling…it just makes it better to destroy your 2 dimensional arguments.
#275 He’s saying Rush is the friggin ilumantti…do you think a sane person can believe the stuff on that web site….unless they are in fact brainwashed…or have really good shit.
October 26th, 2006 at 3:18 amI just think that is very ironic that someone like Rush (which is a confessed pills addict) criticizes somebody else to be sick. He may was stoned or “high” his self when he said what he said…. how is possible that people still listening to this person?
October 26th, 2006 at 3:40 am[...] Fox responds: FOX: I’m kinda lucky right now. It’s ironic, given some things that have been said in the last couple days, that my pills are working really well right now. [...]
October 26th, 2006 at 4:34 amFox has the right to support whoever he wants, as all of us can do. But specially those suffering from this kind of deseases are very sensitive to whatever in the world can help them.
I’m compleatly ashamed with the words from those who said that he was acting or that he stopped taking his medication on purpose to exagerate Parkinson’s sight.
Before saying such a thing they should consider that ill people also vote, and also that we are not safe from suffering this kind of deseases.
Please, be human!
My dad suffers from Parkinson disease and I can tell you that, unfortunately, Fox was not exagerating at all.
We -people around this desease- should try to make the general public aware on this. It is not only that patients tremble. It is more of realizing that you can not do what you want and “something else” is takind the decisions on your live and being impotent and helpless.
I hope you understand my words. I fully support Michael’s words and attitude.
I send him and you my best regards from Spain.
October 26th, 2006 at 7:01 amSo what about the folks who “go off their meds” because they can’t come up with the scratch for the co-pay, assuming they have coverage at all?
Mr. Fox has, and I hate to use the word because it really doesn’t fit here, the “luxury” of being able to afford the best treatment available on the planet. Yet, even that doesn’t cure the disease, it only mitigates it. What about the millions of suffers of Parkinson’s and other debilitating afflictions that cannot afford basic health care, let alone leading-edge treatments? He is only trying to get those with the wherewithall to make, or should I say, allow research and development to even take place.
God forbid, oh+dem+poor+darkies, that you find yourself or a loved one (you do know what love is, don’t you?) in a medical (or psychiatric more likely) situation that you can’t buy your way out of because your Neo-Con “leaders” have completely bankrupted your country (you think Enron was a big deal? That was just the cartoon before the main attraction) and you have no health care or prescription options at all.
I say shame on you, o+t+p+d and Mr. Limbaugh, and anyone else who has the nerve to poke fun or derision at anyone’s afflictions, especially toward someone who is using their plight and suffering as a badge of courage, and actually try to make a difference for others, rather than using it as an excuse for other behaviours.
Shame on you.
October 26th, 2006 at 7:35 amRush is such an a**. Why are ALL the calls to his show not the same? I would think that it should be person after person after person calling to say, “YOU ARE A DRUG ADDICT LOSER”. Fascinating really, considering what a drug addict loser he is. What deluded tards listen to this freak anyways?
His JOB is in radio so he takes SOOOO many pain killers that he makes himself go deaf!? DEAF!!! If I had to hear his voice in MY mind I’d probably dope myself to deafness as well. And WHY did ANY doctor in the world give him BACK his hearing?! SHAME ON YOU. Should be illegal. If you make yourself go deaf because you shamelessly abuse drugs for sport you should STAY DEAF.
And PATHETIC is for whomever has not removed him from the airwaves. The idea that there isn’t something better to replace him with is…. well…. stupifying.
October 26th, 2006 at 8:11 amoff comment – vegans are not really vegans unless the live in a cave somewhere. It is NOT possible to be completely animal free. Got a bike? Ever been in a plane or a car or a bus? Know those “TIRE” things that are incorportated? Can’t make em without ANIMAL materials.
duh. dopey vegans.
oh – and humans are omnivores. every last single one. You might CHOOSE to not eat animals, but that doesn’t change the fact that – in essence your species IS AN OMNIVORE. geesh.
October 26th, 2006 at 8:16 amWhy are there fools on here who seem upset with poor little ol Alex P Keaton?
Rush has permission to go on the airwaves and talk smack out of his big fat drugged out cellulite ridden a**, but MJF can’t speak his mind?!
What is THAT?! At least MJF has something to say that isn’t worthless to humanity.
October 26th, 2006 at 8:22 amSpeaking of being deaf, we can all see Rush’s mouth moving, but nothing is coming. Hey Rush, your village called – their idiot is missing!
October 26th, 2006 at 9:52 amWhy would anyone care what rush says anyway,,,
October 26th, 2006 at 9:57 ami think you should all get a life.
rush will get whats comming to him,
we all do
peace is the word of wise.
Limbaugh’s father should have pulled out. The epitome of stupidity … what a joke !!
October 26th, 2006 at 10:24 amI’m reading all these comments and I can’t comprehend why anyone would listen to Rush L in the first place or anyone else for that matter. MJF is a wonderful actor and I respect him and I feel for him. He’s looking for and deeply desires a cure for his affliction. More power to him. Rush, Micheal and the person next to you can only give you a one sided view anyway. I’ve listened to him and others, but being of sound mind and free will, I’ve taken the time to actually read and evaluate these issues for myself and I know how I am voting. Hopefully we can just get the facts to make a smart decision.
By the way…. I agree with SmartyPants
October 26th, 2006 at 11:25 amResponse to # 37 – Doll:
October 26th, 2006 at 11:38 amWhy didn’t you capitalize the name of Christ in your comment? After all He is God and the Creator of our universe. It appears to be so typical of you liberals, i.e. to close your eyes and hearts, and deny the Truth. Fall on your knees and ask God to guide us and provide wisdom on these issues.
#285 Um, you don’t sound very peaceful. Actually you and most of the liberals name calling have,in fact, done much worse than Rush’s stupid comment.
Typical liberals….only see things from their view…Ignore all other information. While writing hateful speech about rush…they are doing the same thing he is complaining about.
IMHO – l think this proves that a majority of these liberal posters are biggots…and will manipulate anything to perpetuate their ill conceived 2 dimensional logic (based on the hate speech and bullying above). They’re also very mean…and not very friendly.
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* Victory in Iraq for the sake of future generations. Don’t lose eart to the enemies motives…whether the enemy is a terrorist or a democrats giving aid and comfort to our enemies.
* Keep taxes low on small business owners (those “evil” people that recieved the tax cuts). This is a great economy…you wouldn’t know, because the democrats lie about how bad things are. This congress in 5 years brought us out of a a tech bubble collapse from Clinton’s lack of regualtion, a bad recession, and a huge terrorist attack.
* Oppose the culture of death the democrats perpetuatue.
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October 26th, 2006 at 11:38 am[...] Posted: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:33 AM by Will Femia A mailbag rebuttal: Re: Snopes take on vegemite banNot sure if this confirms or denies the vegemite report, but thought it interesting.Michael Will adds: I’d say “denies” or for the purposes of this post, “rebuts.” Speaking of down under, apparently in Australia, musicians get the Dixie Chicks treatment for supporting the war, not the other way around. Beccy Cole sings a rebuttal. “Stay the course” rebuttal ad. Michael J. Fox’s rebuttal to Rush Limbaugh (not much really, just jokes that he’s lucky his pills are working well today). Speaking of Michael J. Fox rebuttals, this is the ad meant to counter his ad. More celebrities, but somehow less impact. Rebuttal to celebrities who claim to support green values: “What about that jet?” Why Barack Obama Should Run for President Why Barack Obama is Overrated Penn and Teller rebut conspiracy theories ***NOTE: This is their Showtime show with the unprintable name and it’s full of four letter exclamations. The other day Ze Frank took a serious swipe at the RocketBoom folks and how their numbers are reported (he also mocks videoblogging). The RocketBoom rebuttal is a pretty straightforward yes, our numbers are correct and we can and have proved it. The RocketBoom rebuttal is worth paying attention to if you’re frustrated with not enough people recognizing your genius in the form of traffic. It’s one thing to build it and wait for people to come, but it’s quite another to work at using the system’s properties to spread your site around. P.S. The whole debate aside, Ze Frank is funny as heck and quality viewing. With the clever headline of Web 2.0lier than thou, Nick Carr rebuts Lessig’s “true sharing vs. fake sharing” argument. “He wants to redefine “Web 2.0″ in order to promote a particular ideology, the ideology of digital communalism in which private property becomes common property and the individual interest is subsumed into the public interest – in which we become the web and the web becomes us.” I don’t agree that it’s a redefinition, but it’s hard to argue with the cold water realism he splashes on the whole thing. Rebutting that autism story in the mailbag… In relation to your story… “Today, Cornell University researchers are reporting what appears to be a statistically significant relationship between autism rates and television watching by children under the age of 3.” Actually the correlation that Cornell is using is a bit bogus. the current theory has to do with mercury levels in small children. See here … or here… or here… I could keep going but you get the picture. I never understood why Mercury was needed in childhood vaccines but that one fact coupled with the fact that studies are showing that mercury levels have been increasing are enough to show a correlation between an increase in the level of autistic children… The TV study seems seriously doubtful considering kids have had TV’s as babysitters since the 60’s and the autistic trend has been fairly recent… IMHO JIM And one a little less reserved from the always informative jbm… Will:As the parent of an autistic-spectrum child, and as a scientist (B.Sci Computer Sci., minor Physics), and as someone married to a scientist (Ph.D., chemistry), I can promise you that the Cornell study you cited is of no practical worth whatsoever. (We know science. That ain’t science.) 1) “The Cornell study is by Waldman, a professor in the school’s Johnson Graduate School of Management, Sean Nicholson, an associate professor in the school’s department of policy analysis, and research assistant Nodir Adilov.” Note: none of them is a psychologist. None of them is really qualified to do the study. 2) Autism is a spectrum disorder, not a single malady. While the incidence of the disorder appeared to rise during the period of the study, it’s important to note that the incidence of reporting also increased, as the disorder was better understood and more correctly diagnosed. Some ADD/HD diagnosed today is actually misdiagnosed autistic spectrum disorder. 3) Correlation is not causation! People don’t seem to understand that anymore. If correlation is, in fact, causation, then standing in the garage may, one day, turn you into a car. Or a lawnmower. Your choice. 4) In fact, all they may have shown is that children with autistic tendencies like to watch TV on rainy days. No kidding. Wow. What a revelation! 5) There is a far higher correlation between the overall intelligence of the parents and occurrence of ASD than with this. And in that correlation, you can at least see that genetic predisposition may exist toward ASD, adding that missing causal factor; not only that, there was a report last week that parents who both possess the MET gene and pass it on to the offspring nearly double the chance of the child developing ASD. My wife and I were both outraged at the simplistic nature of the study, and worse, the moronic nature of the attempts to explain the causal relationship. “Maybe it’s dust!” “Maybe parents of autistic children like to move where it rains!” “Maybe parents of autistic children like cable!” Hey, maybe it’s pixies, fairies, and leprechauns! That’s about as scientific a hypothesis as these guys put out. jbm! [...]
October 26th, 2006 at 11:50 amseems like when someone knows they are wrong they always make a big speech to cover the fact their college money was a waste.
October 26th, 2006 at 11:56 amEven our soldiers are not sure why they are in a war , while our president plays golf.
Who does this Oxy-contin addicted bastard think he is? I am so sick of him running his mouth.
October 26th, 2006 at 1:02 pmWhy does Michael J Fox get a free pass here? He has made the decision to jump into the political arena and he is fair game. He has now admitted that he took too much medication which majorly contributed to his shakes and movements. The add was taped so it was definitely meant to show Fox in an exagerated condition. This was a misleading add used to play on the emotions of the ignorant. Shame on the deomcrats for doing this. My brother has PD and we have been told countless times that embryonic stem cell research has garnered absolutely no hope for this disease. I guess the facts do not matter to spme politicians. Quit making Rush Limbaugh the issue. The issue is a party misleading ill people with false hope!
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October 26th, 2006 at 4:05 pmHang in there Michael! You have been open about you illness — many people love and respect you!>
October 26th, 2006 at 9:02 pm[...] While Cerebral Palsy and Parkinson’s Disease are two very different health issues, I can’t help but remember a time in this country when folks with disabilities weren’t fodder for Rush Limbaugh. [...]
October 26th, 2006 at 11:14 pmJust to get a few things straight –
Any statement that Fox stopped taking his drugs for the commercial is simply a lie.
Any statement that Fox increased his dosage to produce exaggerated symtoms for the commercial is simply a lie.
Any statement that Rush actually apologized for his despicable, cowardly comments is simply a lie.
Any statement that ESC research kills any sort of children or babies is simply a lie.
And any statement that mothers wil suffer due to ESC treatments because of egg donation is simply a lie.
That’s pretty much where we’re at. Right wing nutbars can’t come down on in-vitro fertilization, which produces – and normally kills – the embryos we’re talking about, because women voters won’t stand for it for one minute. So they put it all under the abortion debate, as if those IVF embryos had a future.
It’s all a big far right wing lie, and the right wing rank and file fall for it every time, even while they die by the millions when their own genes could save them. Reasonable people don’t even need to take notice of such willful ignorance, except to make damn sure these nutbars don’t make it into office where they can dictate terms of life and death to you and your family – and to boycott media outlets that spew Rush’s kind of hate and those who advertise on them, and _tell_them_so_ – until it’s no longer profitable to choose lies.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:27 pm[...] And here is Fox’s response to Limbaugh. [...]
October 27th, 2006 at 5:11 pmhey 298. this may require some thinking on your part. not a simple statement, so keep up. rushes point was that fox had in some way manipulated his physical state by manipulating his medication so as to gain sympathy. which he later said he understood and saw no problem with if for a psa for example. for some non-political reason. he obvoiusly knows how to regulate his meds to appear on camera as he does on a regular basis, as “normal” as he can. as anyone who suffers with parkinsons does. it is part of ‘defeating’ the disease. if only for a brief time. so when he makes the commerical he “forgets” how to regualte his meds? like “okay, we’re filming this commercial at 11am micheal, ok?”, and mike wakes up and slaps his forhead and says oh gosh, i need to take my meds before filinmg that comercial. and its all screwed up, the timing. and when he arrives, they say, oh well, we’ll juts shoot it anyway. ok, noone in their right mind believes that. you KNOW that too. you can pretend you dont, thats fine. but any thinking person knows what happening here. soooo. rushes underlying point: fox manipulating medication to gain sypomathy is basically accurate. we know that. some folks find that ok. some then go further. they say, IF its for an apolitical reason, like a psa, sure, BUT, if its for a pilitical reason, and fox says vote for this guy cause he really wants to help me, and by implication, the other guy doesnt, well, then you have manipulation of voters, at an emotional elevel, which i know is the level liberlas operate oin, but thinking folks aim a little higher you see. so then in that latter case, he (fox) is maiking himself availbale for scrutiny, and debate about all facets of what he is saying and doing. i.e.: are his “facts” accurate? in all commercials he has made he has made very easily fact-checked misrepresentations. is he using his disease to elliicit sympathy to shutdown debate of his issue or the ‘other sides’ ability to respond? of course. look, i have a 4y/o with cp, and my wife has ms, so i am not taking sides here on the stem cemm research deal. just analyzing how this fox/limbaugh thing has played out. theres more, but i have to go. start using your head. stop being led around by the msm. good lord, you cant be a simple-minded as your post. ok? i am on your side here, but trying to prove that last statement true is getting hard with what you write. namaste.
October 27th, 2006 at 7:08 pmActually, for all those people that like “knee jerk” responses…let me ask this. If someone at your work told you they were ill and you helped them out then later found out that they weren’t as bad as they lead you to believe, would you be angry? According to Michael J. Fox, he over medicated himself and that’s why he was shaking so badly on the commercial…..hmmmmm. He’s not as bad as he lead you to believe……..but you’re OK with THAT….as long as he’s liberal?
October 27th, 2006 at 11:52 pmAll of these right winged idiots, defending the drug dealing heroin addicted Rush Limbaugh.
And yeah, possesion of more than 300 Oxycontins is under federal law, possesion with intent to distribute. So that makes him a dealer. And Oycontin is a stronger form of heroin, a pharmacutical heroin.
So go ahead right wingers, follow the lead of your heroin dealing Rush.
when the truth absolutely positively doesnt matter, listen to rush and Foxnews.
October 28th, 2006 at 4:16 amIf Rush was a democrat/liberal you would be very sympathetic to his addiction but because he uses First Amendment rights…that is called FREE SPEECH…you get all up in arms about it. That is waht the liberal agenda is about…free speech minus the speech that we disagree with. You people are pathetic!
October 28th, 2006 at 8:31 amMichael J. Fox is a man of ethics and morals and Rush Limbaugh is a paid pig.
October 28th, 2006 at 11:15 amWow,
October 28th, 2006 at 12:20 pmyou people are so full of hate. People blinded by hate can not see the truth. I bet none of you people actually listen to Rush. If you did, you would realize that he is kind and gentle and caring. By the way, his audience is not the idiots you think we are. Most of us are the people you work for. Michael J. Fox is being used by the Liberals to promote a false hope. Embryonic stem-cell research may never lead to any cures, and to have a man exagerate his symptoms in front of a camera just to cause people to feel sorry for him and vote for Democrats is disgusting. If Embryonic stem cell research is the cure-all, then why isn’t there private money pouring into it? It is NOT illegal, anyone can do it, if you have the money. The Gov’t just shouldn’t use PUBLIC money on something that many disagree with and may or may not ever work. Stop being blinded by hate and open your eyes Liberals!!
Oh yes, a few more –
Any statement that embryonic stem cell research isn’t making progress is simply a lie.
Any statement that ESC may not lead to any cures is simply a lie.
Any statement that adult stem cell therapy holds more promise or will lead to more cures is simply a lie.
And lastly, any statement that democrats have embraced name calling and defamation more than republicans is simply a lie. Not only is this entire thread about defamation by a conservative right wing liar who makes that his daily business, the record of republican groups slandering opposition politicians, celebrities who speak out, and veterans of our armed forces is overwhelming.
October 28th, 2006 at 2:12 pmOh yeah, and where’s this evidence that any adjustment was made for the commercial? Lotta clowns claiming Fox admitted something but not one link? Let’s see it. lol
October 28th, 2006 at 3:56 pmThought MJ Fox had more class than to support a lie.Guess the best way to get out of it is to smear someone else (a la clinton).Missouri already has stem cell research on going and this bill is a bill that would make cloning a part of the Missouri constitution.
October 28th, 2006 at 10:53 pmIt is too bad that all these morons down on Rush dont take time to really read the proposition and see what it really is .
When m j fox entered the polotical game he became fair game and I found it truly disgusting that he admittedly was off his meds when he did these interviews.
I dont have Parkinsons but my grandfather has it so bad thet meds dont help very much any more and he has to be cared for 24 hrs a day by my grandmother and I never hear themcomplaining or whining about stem cell research.They are both advocates of adult stem cell research and the possibilities they may provide a cure in the future.
John
Michael J. Fox wasn’t acting during this filming, but he is, nevertheless, one hell of an actor. For years, even after I empathized with him for having to deal with Parkinson’s at such an early age, I couldn’t really bring myself to like him, because I identified him with Alex, the black sheep Repulican jerk of an all-American liberal family. It never even occurred to me that he might be a decent, patriotic Democrat like me. That’s how convincingly he played the part. I should have known better. Look at Archie Bunker! Nobody can satirize an ignorant conservative better than a flaming liberal!
October 29th, 2006 at 2:35 amI am a conservative but I cant stand Limbaugh. I had a little more respect for the guy until is drug problem came out. He is a hypocrite. Spouting off about all the wrongs people are doing when he is doing them himself. I hate that crap. Pouncing on a person who has parkinsons or any other disease is f’d up. Rimjob went way to far. Even IF he was exaggerating the effects, who gives a crap, the guys HAS parkinsons. Thats like degrading someone who says they are legally blind, but can only see shades of color, isn’t blind and that they are exaggerating.
October 29th, 2006 at 2:29 pmFirst of all let’s set the record straight. I am a former Republican turned Libertarian. Limbaugh is a disciple of the recycled Trotskyites and assorted Leftist wackos that now control the GOP and are known as “Neo-Cons.” True conservatives don’t support either the current phony GOP or panting lap-dogs like Limbaugh. In characteristic Neo-Conish ignorance Limbaugh has no clue that Michael J. Fox has said, on numerous times, that he supports what candidates stand for rather than play two-party partisanship. He said it again last night when he stated that he would support a Republican who was supportive of Stem Cell research. Michael J. Fox has also had a very honorable career and is the real thing; you get what you see. Not only does he NOT have to “act up” his illness but his track record implies he would not engage in such deception. Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and all the other phony “conservatives” have given true conservatism a bad name. Just be aware that the real conservatives are not in power any more and shouldn’t be lumped in with the current pretenders.
October 31st, 2006 at 11:32 amRush’s real problem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiOo7S0DvM8
We all knew something was up.
EA
November 1st, 2006 at 8:11 pmSeems odd to me that Fox can somehow stop shaking when he is giving a performance or a speech but he couldn’t do it for a commercial about cloning, oh, I’m sorry, embryonic stem cell research (bull). Fox is a good actor who was reading off a script he never even read the amendment. But, oh well, just as long as some actor who has a disease tells you lemings to jump you will only ask “how high?”
November 20th, 2006 at 1:00 amAs a person in the medical industry who has worked daily to authorize home care to people affected by parkinsons and other significant disabilities, , I was shocked and disgusted when I heard one night on the news how ignorant Rush’s comments were about Michael. I have a father with Parkinsons, and a sister who was diagnosed with M.S. 2 years ago, What really brought it home to me, though is 3 weeks ago, while having a routine EMG for stiffness in my writing hand, that I thought was Carpel Tunnel Syndrome, the neurologist giving it ruled out the Carpel Tunnel, sent me in for an MRI, and then notified me that I am in the early stages of Parkinsons(I am 42). As a person who sees daily the struggles of people dealing with many disabling conditions, I find myself wondering if some day when Rush finds himself dependent upon others for his care, will they be as insenstive and uncompassionate to him as he is to others? It’s amazing such incredibly stupid words would come out of the mouth of a man in his position.
December 20th, 2006 at 3:49 pm