Limbaugh on Michael J. Fox: ‘I Take Back None of What I Said’
By on Oct 25th, 2006 at 7:25 pm
Limbaugh on Michael J. Fox: ‘I Take Back None of What I Said’
Rush Limbaugh is sticking to his claim that Michael J. Fox is exaggerating the symptoms of Parkinson’s disease — by “acting” or “not taking his medications” — in an advertisement promoting stem cell research.
The media falsely reported that he “apologized” to Fox. On his radio show today, Limbaugh said he regrets nothing. Watch it:
Transcript:
I stand by what I said. I take back none of what I said. I wouldn’t rephrase it any differently. It is what I believe; it is what I think. It is what I have found to be true.
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It will be interesting to see how long the trolls keep defending Rush.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:28 pmRush doesn’t understand that MJ Fox’s meds aren’t supposed to make him into a fat blowhard with partial mental incapacity. In other words, Fox’s meds are different from Rush’s.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:30 pmIs that a can of hair mousse behind the monitor? Kinda funny for a bald guy to have around
October 25th, 2006 at 7:30 pmWhatever you say ya pill popper..
October 25th, 2006 at 7:34 pmPicture I saw:
“Radio personality Rush Limbaugh for:
October 25th, 2006 at 7:35 pmOXYCONTIN
“OxyContin helped me deal with the pain of
living in a world that just didn’t resmble my perceptions or my claims.”
Rush may be the expert on pharmaceuticals but this time he’s totally out of his league. So he’s not only a buffoon but an insensitive liar as well…..He’s batting his reputation out of the park these days….(and it isn’t a home run!).
October 25th, 2006 at 7:35 pmLimpballs is so pathetic. He has to smear Michael J. Fox because Fox’s shaking isn’t up to Limpdick’s acceptable standards of judging people with diseases. This is so low, even for Limpdick.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:35 pmAmazing that a drop out who couldn’t hack one full year of college is now pretending to be a doctor.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:36 pmWhat a fat slob . The state of FL need to jail him for addiction and be sued for fefammation of character . But i would not cry if he overdose .
October 25th, 2006 at 7:38 pmLimbaugh: Michael J. Fox is exaggerating the symptoms of Parkinson’s disease — by “acting†or “not taking his medications†- -
That’s like saying people with anorexia nervosa have a heightened sense of vanity.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:38 pmof course he doen’t apologize
He would have to have a conscience to tell him he did the wrong thing for him to do that.
Most opiate drug addicts have no conscience, thats why they will lie and steal from anyone, including their own mother, to get their drug.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:40 pmBut.. but he apologized…. Clinton?
October 25th, 2006 at 7:43 pm“It is what I believe; it is what I think. It is what I have found to be true.” What an asshole. Just because he believes it and thinks it doesn’t mean that it’s true. But his followers think it’s true because they can’t think for themselves.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:46 pmDo you want to see why, the Democrats need to win, and Neocon culture needs to be eradicated (Not the people, the culture) Go read the troll posts on the following thread.
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2006/ 10/ 25/ fox-limbaugh-parkinson/ #comments
There are some things which are morally disgusting. They are things which no decent human being should do. Torture is one of them, but it is not the only one. Making fun of the sick, and infirm is another. Read the troll posts and think about what they are defending.
That is one great strength to being a liberal, at least, at least, we don’t feel the need to defend those who mock the sick. At least we don’t pretend that someone with Parkinson’s disease is having a fun time with it. We don’t pretend that widows just love having their partners dead.
We do not support scumbags like Rush Limbaugh, and Ann Coulter.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:46 pmHe found it to be true?? — the fat tub of shit drug addict!
October 25th, 2006 at 7:50 pmApparently Rush is a Satanist.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:52 pmkeeps us and them from talkin’ Iraq/Afghanistan,Constitution etc. though, doesn’t it? I look for Rust to say even more cruel things in his pathetic attempt to distract before elections. It’s all they’ve got.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:52 pmRush Limpdick is a cowardly chickenhawk with NO balls. He copped a draft deferment for a cyst on his ass. When I was a medic during the Vietnam war, I personally changed the bandages of GIs with that very same ailment. Limpdick is a fat-ass, sorry lump of worthless shit. I can only pray that he develops Parkinson’s himself. And no, I do NOT apologize.
October 25th, 2006 at 7:57 pm[…] Rush Defends There are some people who are just so despicable that they defy description. Yet, somehow, scholarly poets always manage to find ways to describe them. When I lived in the South, the locals would describe people on this level as being “lower than a worm’s belly crawlin’ in the mud. Them thar good ole boys sure have a way with words. […]
October 25th, 2006 at 8:01 pmWTF is it with these right-wingers who think they can diagnose someone via video? Did Rush think Bill Frist did such a bang-up job with diagnosing Terri Schiavo that he saw an opportunity to pronounce judgement on how serious Michael J. Fox’s Parkinson’s is?
Fat Bastard.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:04 pmWhat a remarkably foul human being…
October 25th, 2006 at 8:05 pmCan we stop giving this idiot his moment? TP has devoted more than enough (ie: 0) space to his drivel. The people who like him don’t read TP, and I for one am sick of looking at his picture and giving him the time of day.
Onward to information and stories we can take action on to save our country.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:05 pmDoes any one of any intellegence give this nitwit any credance? The guy is a total schmuk.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:12 pmWhat an idiot, everyone knows that shaking and movements like MJF shows in the video are FROM the drugs he takes. Parkinsons is not what everyone saw in the ad. If he wasn’t taking his drugs, he’d be stiff and unable to speak. Jeez, every idiot knows that except Rush Limbaugh I guess.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:19 pmRush knows America supports stem cell research.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:19 pmShameful and absurd posturing by a damaged individual whose character faults are a matter
October 25th, 2006 at 8:26 pmof choice and a twisted source of self-pride.
LOL Rush Limbaugh said M J F is acting… are we serious people… Rush Limbaugh, the drug addict who fakes/acts like he is in pain to get American Herion (Oxy).
Rush Limbaugh said this… his argument and opion is null and void!
October 25th, 2006 at 8:27 pm#
of course he doen’t apologize
He would have to have a conscience to tell him he did the wrong thing for him to do that.
Most opiate drug addicts have no conscience, thats why they will lie and steal from anyone, including their own mother, to get their drug.
Comment by Wayne — October 25, 2006 @ 7:40 pm
Well, no offense, that’s complete bullshit. They have no conscience when they’re using. That’s the definition of addiction.
I’ve met some recovering addicts that do a lot better at helping people now than most americans do in their lifetime.
Limbaugh, though, is gaining his weight back and not doing anything to change his behavior just like the preznit.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:28 pmMy brother has Parkinson’s and is totally disabled from it. I hope not even you ever knows how it feels to have this crimpling disease. I know that you are a Republican and can not help being an insensitive moron but anyone with any thought process could see that no one would want to fake this disease.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:28 pm#17
I agree with you. This is an attempt by the neo-cons to shift focus two weeks before a key election.
I expect lot more diversionary tactics like this. After all, a wise man once said:
October 25th, 2006 at 8:38 pmDouglas G. we miss your insight!
October 25th, 2006 at 8:41 pmThis poor excuse for a human being sounds like he is reading from the same script as O”lielly, Hannity, Coulter and rest of the right wing wackos. The all sound exactly alike. And since their brain dead leader never admits that he makes mistakes, neither do they. They all belong in the same sewer.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:48 pmI had a brother who was left seriously disabled as a result of getting gored by a bull on the family farm. Despite his disability he courageously took care of his large young family…until he finally could no longer deal with the pain and he choose to end his life. This very personal experience left me with a deep respect for individuals who each day deal with their disability. It is the reason I have so much respect for Michael J. Fox.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:55 pmWhile Fox represents what is best and noble about our society Rush Limbaugh represents what is most negative. I feel so sorry for fellow citizens who look up to this guy as some kind of guru.
“It is what I have found to be true”
How can he possibly know that? Unless he talked to MJF there is no way he can make this statement with any kind of credibility.
And yet people buy into his crap every single day. The problem is not Rush Limbaugh, but the mindset which makes the republicans so sure about everything eg.
There were WMDs in Iraq!
We will be greeted as liberators! And on and on and on!
You know after these guys die, we need to disect their brains and identify and map the Bull***t region of the republican brain.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:59 pmLimbaugh is a weak person, and he knows it. That’s why he acts that way.
October 25th, 2006 at 8:59 pmHow can that man, the ultimate victim of his own personal pathogens, not for one second think that a legitimate suffering human inflicted with a real disease, not be entitled to using his own opportunities for political speech. See that’s the problem for Mr. Limbaugh, he has never had any real standard of legitimacy established by anyone other than himself. He calls himself America’s anchorman, the Katie envy has lasted a couple of seasons, and his opinion is, well yes his own. Why did he dis the President of the United States when he was invited to the White House? Rush’s schedule? Too busy for the man? What colossal cajones wouldn’t you say?
October 25th, 2006 at 9:04 pmI do see good coming from this in three ways: 1) public education about Parkinson’s disease, 2) more publicity for Fox’s advocacy and 3) Rush getting his just criticisms from a number of sources.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:11 pmI was actually shocked when I heard that Rush had apologized. I should have known better. Cretin.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:18 pmAmerica’s Least Wanted
And if Tubby comes down with some incurable malady, somthing real, something painful, something that makes him even more hideous than he already is; please join me in wishing him a very long life.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:19 pmRimmerBaugh
is in his studio alone, no friends, no family alientating even his temperature IQ listeners. he knows the only way he can stay ‘heard’ is to funnel the excrement that comes out of his body over the airwaves, and stay ‘outrageous’, where is there to go though? nowhere.
He is nothing. He should be pitied. He is the epitome of someone that will soon blow his own brains out in his garage as he is unravelling at a rate of knots.
Sad pathetic waste of space.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:20 pmRush’s gut is like pretty big, they showed his fat ass on the Nightly News, in a negative light.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:21 pmPlease Rush - DON’T APOLOGIZE. You are the shining example of modern “Go F*** Yourself Republicanism” - mean, nasty, uncaring, juvenile. Keep you mouth open and wide until November 7th!
Rush - you are doing a heckuva job for the Republicans…. Or is that Democrats?
October 25th, 2006 at 9:32 pm#20 great post.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:33 pmLimbaugh’s uneducated antics may prove fatal to Talent.
Anybody else in the country would be fired for making such outrageously insensitive remarks on the airwaves. Not Rush, though. All the affiliates will keep running his show.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:37 pmRush Limbaugh is a jerk who has a following of idiots who can’t think for themselves.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:44 pmThe Radio wingnuts believe in the old P.T. Barnum phrase that there’s a sucker born every minute.
They’re lying, they know they’re lying and they get paid handsomely to lie.
The funding behind Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. is the same as the funding behind the rightwing “think tanks”. This propaganda machine that they’ve worked so hard to perfect is extremely well funded and about as authentic as Pam Anderson’s cleavage.
Here is the difference between us and them when it comes to motivation:
Grassroots - Activism as a result of the concerns of individual citizens
Astroturf - Manufactured activism, created by groups organized to attack an issue.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:46 pmYou liberals obviously don’t see satan’s spawn when he’s right in front of you. If you want to give Michael J. Fox the green light to devour infant babies for there stem cells than you go right on ahead. With your radical San Francisco values, all a bunches of Nancy Paloski’s you all make me sick to my stomach. Next thing you know we’ll be having gay homosexuals requesting for the right to eat babies and have it protected by the constitution. You damn dirty liberals.
Sincerely,
October 25th, 2006 at 9:46 pmAsshole.
The only ‘faking it’ is rush, faking being a human being. It is against my morals to wish someone dead,but it sure is being tested now. I watched MJF’s vid…I choked bigtime. Rush, are my fellow Marines that are now dead faking it? YOU are the sickest man on planet earth,along with Colter and others..we will never let you forget this…never.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:50 pmOf course they’ll defend him it’s what they do. Never admit you’re wrong never apologize.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:52 pm. Next thing you know we’ll be having gay homosexuals requesting for the right to eat babies and have it protected by the constitution. You damn dirty liberals.
damn, those gay homosexuals have all the fun.
Where do I sign up? Can I be a straight homosexual? Is that like one of those guys on Craig’s List who swears they’re straight but likes to suck some cock on the DL?
October 25th, 2006 at 9:58 pmRush’s perception of reality is unbelievable. Does he think the world views him as a perfect person, someone to look up to and admire? I think Rush would kick a guy in a wheelchair if it served his purpose.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:59 pmremember, Rush Limpballs is from Missouri. So the average guy probably notices what he says, more often than the average guy who’s not a dittohead in another state would.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:59 pmIs Rush Limbaugh a doctor? How would his pill-popping, mug shot smiling, slightly right of Atilla the Hun, no account a** know if Michael Fox’s condition is being “faked”?
What a despicable piece of sh*t.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:00 pmNever admit you’re wrong never apologize.
Comment by klyde
Stay the course, baby.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:00 pmListen to yourselves.
One and all, foaming at the mouth with hatred. You’re no better than the right wing idealoges (like Rush).
MJF admittedly *does* go off his meds to dramatize the suffering of parkinson’s victims. Rush’s only claim is that - in his opinion - it is unseemly to do this to promote a political agenda.
Rush is certainly insensitive in making this statement. MJF is a brave and virtuous man in his fight to further the cause of research. That is all that needs be said.
Your childish vituperation brings shame to the liberal cause.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:19 pmRush could care less. He knows that about 30% of this country is comprised of moronic/ignorant sheep who will listen to him no matter what he says.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:19 pmOk, this isn’t the first time I have wondered if Rush is actuallly a raging liberal. Go Rush!!
October 25th, 2006 at 10:21 pmModerate, your balls are no good to you when they are sucked up into your abdomen.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:24 pmlet’s forget about the unimpeachable beliefs of the imaginary friend loving death cult and reframe the debate in terms of American economic security.
Can we afford to lose the stem cell cure race? Could we gamble with the chance that our domestic pharmaceutical industry could be obsoleted overnight by a foreign stem cell breakthrough?
or…
are all the pharmaceutical companies multinational and getting Stem Cell Research funding overseas? if this were true, would Republicans on principal boycott their boner pills, their heart pills, their depression pills and their diet pills? or is this a false red meat issue and they on the take from big pharma to squash biomedical startups by killing public research funding and keeping the barrier to entry high?
now back to the death cult and the religious right…
October 25th, 2006 at 10:30 pmthey have the right to the ethical debate, too, but no right under our system of government to own the entire debate by framing it in terms of right or wrong, without exploring the pros and cons for the rest of the American People in the reality based community.
Rush gives evidence to the old saying about the long lives of rotten people.
He along with Cheney and the rest of Bush&Co.
The Greek gods took the best, leaving the bad ones on earth.
“The good die first, And they whose hearts are dry as summer dust burn - Burn to the socket.”
October 25th, 2006 at 10:30 pmOlbermann showed an ad tonight when Michael J. Fox made a similar plea for stem cell research — for Republican Senator Arlen Specter, in 2004.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:34 pmDid Limpballs say anything nasty at that time?
The drug addicted, lying bastard.
Please,please,please– somebody make an ad showing a repeating tape loop of Limbaugh’s sickening and squalid imitation of Fox’s movement disorder. Should be shown 24/7 in all states with a repo candidate who is against stem cell research. I am a neurologist who is all too familiar with the dramatic minute to minute variation of Parkinson symptoms in the advanced stages of the disease. Fox wasn’t acting , Rush was.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:36 pmYou know a couple smacks in the back of the head with a baseball bat and Rush will act like an epileptic, too! Then we can tease him for faking it.
What an A-hole!!!
October 25th, 2006 at 10:41 pmLets imagine the shoe was on the other foot and Rush was making an ad for a drug that he wanted that was outlawed. We see a group of impoverished Costa Rican children around Rush, some digging through garbage for food. Rush gives an impassioned plea: These children would like to earn money for food and clothing. There are plenty of people willing to pay them, but they can’t. You see they suffer from dead crotch syndrome. And until viegra becomes legal again these children will be without gainful employment. We see a tear form on Rush’s cheek as his gaze wanders down to flat region beneath his belly.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:51 pmI support Rush’s statements. Michael J. Fox has admitted to going off his meds for congressional hearings to reinforce the severity of his condition for those in congress. In the commercial, his movements do look staged, as compared to other video footage of his “tremors”, so I believe Rush is dead on right.
Typical of liberals to once again put forth a victim as some unquestionable messenger of truth, then scream bloody murder when challenged. All this won’t matter, because the gay marriage issue has reminded Reps why they need to get up and vote, especially in Missouri. I predict the Dem will lose by at least 4 percent.
October 25th, 2006 at 10:52 pmJason Hendler - do you really want to solidify the low opinion we have of you with statements like that?
October 25th, 2006 at 10:58 pmDid you know Fox made a similaar commercial for Arlen Specter in 2004?
Don’t talk about exploiting victims - remember Terri Schiavo?
Jason, I really don’t like to be so personal in criticism, but yours is an example of why liberals despise Republicans for their hypocrisy and their inability to think outside of their party.
What’s your point, Jason?
Do you acknowledge that Michael J. Fox has Parkinson’s Disease?
Do you acknowledge that Parkinson’s Disease is a terrible disease?
Do you acknowledge that research must be done in order to find a cure for this disease?
Do you acknowledge that if a person with Parkinson’s Disease were to testify in a congressional hearing, one might want to let the committee members know what Parkinson’s Disease looks like?
I already know you’re an insufferable twit, so you don’t have to answer that question.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:02 pmI’m sorry, but every time I see Rush, this happy little song keeps on playing in my head… http://www.ericblumrich.com/nazi.html
October 25th, 2006 at 11:05 pm#71, Marie,
Breathe, sister, MJF has ADMITTED to going off meds to exaggerate his condition. As for Terry Schiavo, she was euthanized, which is a position consistent with not allowing embryonic stem cell research. Many desire to protect all life, whether premature, sick, ill - generally defenseless, in need of protection.
You seem the type who would luv to jam the scissors into the skulls of partially birthed infants as an initiation into your feminist sorority. Hurry, a new life may actually be born!
October 25th, 2006 at 11:08 pmWhats next for Rush? Ridiculing cripples for taking the best parking spots.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:09 pm#72, Zooey,
Yes
October 25th, 2006 at 11:10 pmRelative to what?
Yes
Depends on whether you want to demonstrate how their disease is with or without treatment. You could say that he is misrepresenting his normal day to day condition by not taking his meds.
As a neurologist know that Fox’s symptoms were exactly what one would expect to see in the later stages of Parkinson’s in patients who have been on medication for years. The medications produce a jerky writhing movement called choreoathetosis that for varying periods of time replace the tremor and rigidity. The patient may swing rapidly between tremor-rigidity and chorea with short periods of relative “normalcy”depending on the dosing schedule. Critics of Fox are ignorant bottom dwellers who form the inner repo core. For them there is no global warning ,Sadam attacked the World Trade Centers, and the earth is 6,000 years old. It’s time to drain the swamp.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:12 pmYou seem the type who would luv to jam the scissors into the skulls of partially birthed infants as an initiation into your feminist sorority. Hurry, a new life may actually be born!
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
That reminds me, I need to out and get pregnant just so I can have an abortion.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:13 pmRelative to what?
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
Thanks for making my point for me, Jason.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:15 pm#77, Alan,
Everyone understands what Parkinson’s is supposed to look like, but his “symptoms” did NOT look real, being familiar with previous footage of his symptoms. Big words and bonafides won’t change the public’s perception that MJF was winging it.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:16 pm#79, Zooey,
Is MJF in pain? Is he unable to work? Is he unable to communicate? Is he unable to eat?
There are far more serious illnesses than Parkinson’s Disease, and while all illnesses are trajic, none are worth destroying human life to cure.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:18 pmJason you are guilty of the logical inconsistancies of the Rush crowd. Your allusion to scissors in skulls for stem cell donors is ludicrous. The proposed source for stem cells is the left over , I think the term is, blastocysts from invetro-fertilization. The preponderence of which are destroyed anyway. The scissor skull thing refers (and overdramatically I suspect) to late term abortion.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:21 pmYou seem the type who would luv to jam the scissors into the skulls of partially birthed infants as an initiation into your feminist sorority. Hurry, a new life may actually be born!
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
Jason, since you abhor partial birth abortions, what is your alternative? If a fetus has a severe physical deformity, such as an organ on the outside of the body, and there is zero chance it will survive more than a few hours, do you endanger the life of the mother, by forcing her to give birth? Do you assert it is better to bring the fetus out, and let it slowly die? Your philosophical argument , please, for forcing the woman to give birth, and why it is preferable for a fatally-deformed fetus to be delivered?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:22 pmhis “symptoms†did NOT look real, being familiar with previous footage of his symptoms.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 25, 2006 @ 11:16 pm
And now Mr. Hendler will claim to know more than a neurologist about Parkinson’s.
Big words and bonafides won’t change the public’s perception that MJF was winging it.
Speak for yourself, Mr. Hendler.
How about we make fun of your condition? I bet you are “winging it”, anyway.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:23 pm#82, Bowdler,
The “scissors in skull” refers to partial birth abortion …
October 25th, 2006 at 11:24 pmIs MJF in pain? Is he unable to work? Is he unable to communicate? Is he unable to eat?
There are far more serious illnesses than Parkinson’s Disease, and while all illnesses are trajic, none are worth destroying human life to cure.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
You’ve never seen anyone waste away with Parkinson’s, have you? Nevermind, you haven’t the capacity for empathy.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:25 pmI have never been a fan of Limbaugh but I now find myself even less of a fan. How can such a public figure make such statements and not have to face some retribution, even his network OK’s this behavior because it makes them money. My father had Parkinson’s and I watched it eat at him for his final 17 years. I can tell you there are good days and bad days but I’d like to see Rush spend a day with a Parkinson’s victim and watch him struggle through things that we all take for granted. Simple task such as walking, talking and eating become a very laborious task. The truth is as long as people will listen this blow hard will continue spewing his stupidity.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:27 pmIt’s too much effort to communicate with an ignorant and pigheaded miscreant.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:28 pmRush’s only claim is that - in his opinion - it is unseemly to do this to promote a political agenda.
Rush is certainly insensitive in making this statement. MJF is a brave and virtuous man in his fight to further the cause of research. That is all that needs be said.
Your childish vituperation brings shame to the liberal cause.
Comment by moderate — October 25, 2006 @ 10:19 pm
Then Rush should have said just that…that in his opinion it’s unseemly for MJF to take advantage of his disease to promote a political agenda.
And that should have been the end of it.
But he couldn’t help himself. The drama queen had to make an appearance, once again. The fat bastard had to go way beyond that and accuse MJF of faking his behavior. Of putting on an act. And then the fat ass had to flop around in his chair like a fish out of water in a display of mockery.
On the other hand, maybe if we keep our big fat liberal mouths shut, maybe…just maybe…Rush will just go away.
And yes, calling people names is childish. But you know what? I don’t give a damn right now. Because he is a bastard and an ass. You want to talk about being unseemly in promoting a political agenda? All you have to do is picture Rush’s face every time you think about that.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:30 pm#86, Zooey,
Have you no empathy for the unborn children that are snuffed? Have you no empathy for the weak and infirm have their feeding tubes yanked from their throats and starved for 2 weeks until they die?
Why is a Parkinson’s sufferer valued more than others? Are you ready to choose who lives and who dies?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:32 pmAnd Jason runs away from the question. Big surprise.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:33 pmAll this won’t matter, because the gay marriage issue has reminded Reps why they need to get up and vote, especially in Missouri. I predict the Dem will lose by at least 4 percent.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 25, 2006 @ 10:52 pm
Married, Hendler? If so, how is gay marriage affecting your relationship with your wife?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:34 pmThis is typical of why libs are impossible to reason with:
Just because one person is suffering, you feel compelled to take from those who aren’t to abate, however slightly, someone else’s pain. Why hurt everyone else to ease someone’s plight? How many fetuses are you willing to terminate to cure MJF? 10, 20, 50, 100?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:36 pmAre you ready to choose who lives and who dies?
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
More hyperbolic rhetoric; if you would deny others a chance at a cure, you surely make the decision of “who lives and who dies” for them.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:38 pm85 duh. How about an overlooked aspect of this whole argument. While other countries are researching the benifits of stem cell therapy, we are held in the thrall of religous extremists. At some point in the future it is likely that foriegn companys will hold lucrative patents to very beneficial treatments. And what will America have to show for it? Some dishonest politicans elected for pandering to religous right. I bet if Halliburton had a few stem cell patents things might be a little different… No, strike that thought - baby farms would be the only result.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:38 pm#92, WC,
I have stated already that I support gay marriage or civil unions, but detest how the Dems always run to the courts when they can’t win elections or ballot initiatives. For that reason, I hope they never legalize gay marriage, just to chastens Dems for all time.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:38 pmHave you no empathy for the unborn children that are snuffed?
They are not children.
Have you no empathy for the weak and infirm have their feeding tubes yanked from their throats and starved for 2 weeks until they die?
They are already dead. Their bodies just don’t know it yet. Very few of us would want to live that way, if we knew it was happening. Maybe you would. I would support your decision.
Why is a Parkinson’s sufferer valued more than others?
They’re not, this is just one example of a disease that needs research.
Are you ready to choose who lives and who dies?
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
If it’s coming from my body, yes, I will choose who lives and who dies. As for choosing between a breathing person and a fetus. Breathing person wins every single time.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:39 pmBig words and bonafides won’t change the public’s perception that MJF was winging it.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 25, 2006 @ 11:16 pm
The public’s perception? You mean Fox News and Rush Limbaugh and their idiotic listeners? I think the “public” is a tad bigger than that group.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:40 pmHow many fetuses are you willing to terminate to cure MJF? 10, 20, 50, 100?
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
And a technique that offers the promise of getting stem cells without destroying an embryo would be acceptable to the Right? Or will you guys move the goalposts and include unfertilized eggs?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:41 pmHow many fetuses are you willing to terminate to cure MJF? 10, 20, 50, 100?
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
Michael J. Fox is not the only person on this planet with Parkinson’s Disease.
I would agree to terminate every embryo that is slated for disposal in the next 10 years. More, if necessary.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:42 pmJason,
If MJF were off his meds, he would be frozen. That is the effect of Parkinsons. The brain can no longer initiate movement. Often, once movement starts, the person can’t stop.
Please, just Google it. The meds cause the excessive jerkiness. Going off them leaves you frozen.
And yes, Parkinsons hurts. MJF cannot work full time; his guest stints on Boston Legal are choreographed around the moments he has most control over the tremors. Parkinsons leaves you unable to communicate, as it immobilizes your vocal chords–another reason you can be sure MJF actually took his meds: he wanted to be able to speak clearly. Most late stage Parkinsons die b/c they cannot swallow and aspirate food into their lungs, which leads to pneumonia.
It is a horrible, fatal disease, and there aren’t far more serious illnesses. Death isn’t bad enough? Having your mind work while your body freezes isn’t horrific enough?
Again, just Google it. Parkinson’s info is out there. When Rush and you and others claim that going off the medication made the symptoms worse, you just display your utter ignorance, just as you do when you claim the disease isn’t serious.
400,000 frozen embryos are going to be tossed. Why can’t their parents decide to donate their organs, like any other family member? Oh, b/c every blastocyst is sacred.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:43 pmMany desire to protect all life, whether premature, sick, ill - generally defenseless, in need of protection.
…damn shame about all those dead people in Iraq. But they don’t count, do they? They’re not white-skinned Christian Republican-Americans.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:43 pm#97, Zooey,
In MJF, we are really talking about quality of life, so you are comfortable with destroying life to improve someone else’s? How about for cosmetic reasons? If fetal tissue could make you look 5, 10 or 20 years younger, would you harvest human fetuses? How many? 10, 20, 50, 100?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:44 pmThis is typical of why libs are impossible to reason with:
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 25, 2006 @ 11:36 pm
And this is typical of why it is impossible to have a reasoned argument with you. You replace the facts with your own warped “opinion” or “feeling”.
There would be no fetuses “sacrificed”, because embryonic stem cells are taken from embryos -hence the name.
Proponents are arguing that stem cells could be collected from the embryos that are currently being discarded (destroyed) by fertility clinics, that don’t have the money or room to store them forever.
Unless you are ready to oppose in-vitro fertilisation because it “kills babies”.
And I almost forgot: Thanks to new technology, no embryos will have to be destroyed in order to collect stem cells anymore. So there goes your argument against embryonic stem cell research.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:45 pm#99, barfly,
Personally, I would accept an unfertilized egg, but not a clone. I’ve seen where a nucleus from a skin cell is inserted in an egg, creating again a human life, so as to generate and harvest stem cells. That is NOT acceptable, because a clone, like a twin, is a human life.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:46 pm“It is what I think. It is what I believe, and it is what I have FOUND to be TRUE.”
Oh! Is that all? So it’s the same old Bolls hit that Rush always spews and he admits it. No big problem. Just typical B.S. as usual.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:49 pmIn MJF, we are really talking about quality of life, so you are comfortable with destroying life to improve someone else’s?
I am very comfortable destroying what is already slated for destruction, to cure this illness and many others. Stop minimizing this disease.
How about for cosmetic reasons? If fetal tissue could make you look 5, 10 or 20 years younger, would you harvest human fetuses?
No, I would not do something like that. Don’t be ridiculous.
How many? 10, 20, 50, 100?
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
Caren in #101 says 400,000 are about to be tossed. All of them.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:49 pmJason, then why not the outrage over invitro-ferilization?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:50 pm#107, Zooey,
So instead of allowing infertile couples to adopt these embryos, you would prefer to dab them under each eye to look younger?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:51 pm#108, Bowdler,
What do you suggest is the outrage with invitro-fertilization?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:53 pmRush is your typical modern day conservative— self - centered and mean–also ignorant.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:53 pmIs MJF in pain? Is he unable to work? Is he unable to communicate? Is he unable to eat?
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 25, 2006 @ 11:18 pm
Asks the man who claims to know what Parkinson’s is.
I know this will come as a surprise to you, Mr. Hendler, but Parkinson’s disease is degenerative. Michael J Fox is able to walk now, he might not be able in the future. He might not be able to eat, talk, or otherwise function normally.
Say it with me: Parkinson’s disease is degenerative.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:55 pmJason,
There are about 50 “snowflake” babies.
There are 400,000 embryos in storage.
There aren’t enough infertile couples to adopt them. And not all the biological parents are willing to donate their embryos to other families.
These embryos are going to be tossed in the garbage, where they do no one any good. They are incapable of life without implantation, so why can’t their parents donate their organs, as they could with a child who was brain dead and no longer capable of living?
Oh yeah, every blastocyst is sacred. 8 cells, doomed to be thawed and trashed, are more important than living humans.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:56 pmSo instead of allowing infertile couples to adopt these embryos, you would prefer to dab them under each eye to look younger?
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
What did I just say, Jason? Do not attemtp to pull this crap on me.
How about for cosmetic reasons? If fetal tissue could make you look 5, 10 or 20 years younger, would you harvest human fetuses?
No, I would not do something like that. Don’t be ridiculous.
Infertile couples are not beating down the doors to adopt these embryos, Jason. If they want to adopt, they ought to get busy. Or adopt one of the thousands of children ALREADY BORN.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:57 pmSo,
You choose to show up when you think I’m gone?
Answer the charge put before you, or slink back under your rock.
For those of you not familiar with it, :
#141, Grandmal Seizure ….
They can sue all they want, but activist judges shouldn’t writing laws.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler —
NOW we have a problem.
NOW I will address you.
Skewering someone’s name for your enjoyment is not only childish, but now Offensive.
My daughter has spent the last 24 hours hooked up to electrodes, trying to find out why her seizures have started after a year’s absence.
We have had 3 hospital stays over a 2 1/2 year period, all a week’s stay, trying to figure out the Why’s and Where’s.
YOU are not funny. YOU are not even slightly amusing. You are a total ASSHOLE! And I now truly deserve an apology.
I don’t give a rat’s ass what you say about me, but now you’re making fun of Epileptics. (nice, BTW)
I demand an apology.
Comment by trueblue — October 25, 2006 @ 5:26 pm
He ran off immediately after that.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:57 pmThat exchange was after the harassment of this morning, which he never apologized for, either.
So instead of allowing infertile couples to adopt these embryos, you would prefer to dab them under each eye to look younger?
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 25, 2006 @ 11:51 pm
More strawman arguments from Mr. Strawman himself.
Whoever said embryos would be destroyed in order for anyone to look younger?
We are talking about research that has the potential to cure Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s. Both degenerative diseases.
There is nothing cosmetic about that.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:58 pmIf there is a silver lining in this despicable person’s idiotic diatribe, it is that IF there is even one person with any remaining brain cells that still listen to his show that they will finally see Limbaugh for what he truly is and STOP LISTENING TO HIM. It is my deepest hope that his listeners will wake up from the false conciousness that they have been lulled into by the GOP and Fox, and realize that they have been lied to and actually start being open to the truth. I have given up hope that Limbaugh will ever grow a conscience, as he does not appear to have any sense of morality. I can only hope that his moronic rant will be played over, and over, and over…
October 25th, 2006 at 11:58 pm#113, Caren,
Maybe Madonna could adopt one - or does she prefer to steal them?
October 25th, 2006 at 11:58 pmComment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 25, 2006 @ 11:38 pm
So on the one hand you support gay marriage, but on the other you hope it never is legalized simply because you want to smack down the Democrats.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:58 pmPersonally, I would accept an unfertilized egg, but not a clone. I’ve seen where a nucleus from a skin cell is inserted in an egg, creating again a human life, so as to generate and harvest stem cells. That is NOT acceptable, because a clone, like a twin, is a human life.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
Silly boy, its no more a clone than a blastocyte is a baby. If you want to extend the definition of human life to groups of human cells we better stop removing spleens when they rupture, because that would be destroying human life. Probably would have to rule out transplants, because that is making a clone by your definition. These groups of cells are not human life. Human Life is something that can’t sit in a freezer for months and still live.
Oh, and I won’t presume to speak for anyone else, but to me, the correct answer to the Shiavo situation was euthanasia. Her brain was dead, she didn’t want to be kept alive in a vegetative state. End of story to me.
Time to stop reading worldnetdaily and join the real world.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:00 amdoes she prefer to steal them?
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 25, 2006 @ 11:58 pm
Was this comment supposed to be witty? Clever?
What do Madonna’s antics have to do with the price of tea in China?
October 26th, 2006 at 12:02 am#115, Trueblue,
I never saw your post 141, having signed off beforehand.
One minute you choose to ignore me, the next you choose to bite my head off and demand an apology. I have had my name mispelled or replaced with less than flattering monikers, but you don’t see me throwing a hissy fit.
No, I am not apologizing to you. If you start something, don’t gripe when you get hit. You think that because you are a woman, you can make sexist remarks and not be hit back in kind? Guess what, sister, you are wrong.
Again, typical liberal using a victim as a means to score points against an adversary. Do you think Michael J. Fox will shoot a video for you?
October 26th, 2006 at 12:05 am110: From what I understand, the process of invitro fertilization produces many more embryos than are used. Most of them are destroyed. It is these wasted cells that most stem cell researchers propose to use. It is the act of invitro fertilization that creates the embryos that are to be destroyed. Stem cell research only proposes to use what would be discarded anyway.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:06 am“#99, barfly, Personally, I would accept an unfertilized egg, but not a clone. I’ve seen where a nucleus from a skin cell is inserted in an egg, creating again a human life, so as to generate and harvest stem cells. That is NOT acceptable, because a clone, like a twin, is a human life.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendlerâ€
He’s not telling the truth.
A skin cell nucleus is too differentiated.
It can only make more skin cells.
If it were that easy, there’d be all sorts of ‘mini-me’s’ running amok.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:06 amHe doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
You need undifferentiated cells.
Are you ready to choose who lives and who dies?
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
Well, Jason, by refusing to abort a fetus to save the life of an otherwise healthy female, it would seem that you are making that choice.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:07 amHello folks,
October 26th, 2006 at 12:08 amDid it ever occur to anyone that Jason+M.+Hendler might just be a bored fool that says these ridiculous things just to get everyone riled up? I hope that is the case, because if it’s not, the alternative is worse; the village idiot is running loose. That’s all for me. Night, night.
So you like making fun of Epileptics?
Real nice.
We don’t make fun of your Autism.
And YOU STARTED.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:11 amI ignore you all the time.
This is the only time I have addressed you, because it’s not me - NOW you’re picking on my CHILD.
He doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Comment by trueblue — October 26, 2006 @ 12:06 am
Imagine that…
October 26th, 2006 at 12:12 amWhen did this become the JMH thread?
All we’re doing is argueing with him, when really he’s only worthy of being ignored.
We now return to our regularly scheduled program…
:)
Comment by trueblue — October 25, 2006 @ 10:06 am
#50, true,
You have missed me - I can tell.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 25, 2006 @ 10:08 am
October 26th, 2006 at 12:15 amAnd more crap ensued from JMH…..
That is NOT acceptable, because a clone, like a twin, is a human life.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
OK. If an embryo has fatal deformities, and will die once it is removed from the mother (or possibly even die inside her), would harvesting its cells be taboo?
October 26th, 2006 at 12:16 am#131, trueblue,
Get off it. You and the others have made far worse statements, and I never ran off crying, just gave it back to you in kind. Moreover, I return it in the form of playful banter, for the most part, so don’t get all bent up over it.
Others make fun of my “mild case of Asperger’s Syndrome”, and often I joke along. (BTW, I consult with a teacher who has a class of these type of children to help her understand what they are thinking / feeling, and how to transition them to mainstream them into regular classes.) I expect no apologies from you, so don’t expect any from me.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:21 amATTN: Jason+M.+Hendler
Shut up and GO AWAY. Believe it or not, this thread isn’t about you.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:23 am#135, barfly,
If it dies, it can be an organ donor, like anyone else.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:24 ambtru,
You epitomize the hopeless left. I look forward to visiting your here the day after the election ….
October 26th, 2006 at 12:30 amAnd no apologies for disparaging Epileptics.
True Colors………………
October 26th, 2006 at 12:30 am#143, trueblue,
No, no apology. What I’ve said is far more kind that what you and others have said to me - get over it.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:35 amIf it dies, it can be an organ donor, like anyone else.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
Otherwise, if it hasn’t died yet, the mother has to deliver it?
You would potentially injure (or kill) the mother by forcing her to deliver it, and then wait for it to die? And then harvest the cells?
You’re OK with that?
October 26th, 2006 at 12:40 amMaybe we should just feel very sorry for him. He is pretty pitiful. Obviously his disorder is so severe that he cannot see how inappropriate his behavior and attitudes really are. Ignore him; it is the truly kind thing to do. We need to model appropriate behavior for him. Ignore the bad man.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:40 amWhat I’ve said is far more kind that what you and others have said to me - get over it.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 26, 2006 @ 12:35 am
I see: miniblue gets to pay for what others said to you.
You are so very manly, Mr. Hendler.
But then you can probably suspend your sense of decency in the same way you suspend your Christian beliefs…
October 26th, 2006 at 12:41 amRush is a scumbag. Most of his listeners too - Uneducated moronic right wingers.
http://www.limbaugh.com/?q=ratings
October 26th, 2006 at 12:43 amRush finds just about anything that supports the agenda he pushes is “found to be true”. Unfortunately, he has a skewed understanding of what “truth” is.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:43 amBut then you can probably suspend your sense of decency in the same way you suspend your Christian beliefs…
Comment by Gregor Samsa
You have sized up The Jason.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:45 amI just want to get Jason correctly: does he think an embryo (not a fetus) which shows a fatal deformity should be carried full term, even if it cannot survive outside the womb? If the pregnancy has a good chance of seriously injuring (or killing) the mother, does Jason think she should be forced to carry it full term? That sounds like just the opposite of forced abortions - forced deliveries.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:46 amWhen did this become the JMH thread?
All we’re doing is argueing with him, when really he’s only worthy of being ignored.
We now return to our regularly scheduled program…
:)
Comment by trueblue — October 25, 2006 @ 10:06 am
#50, true,
You have missed me - I can tell.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 25, 2006 @ 10:08 am
……………………………
sorry. just had to projectile vomit…………………..
Yeah, Briseadh na Faire, I’d be interested in that link as well.
Comment by trueblue — October 25, 2006 @ 10:14 am
#63, true,
You can fight it if you want to, but I know you can’t resist a strong man like myself.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — October 25, 2006 @ 10:20 am
I’m outta here………………………..
I just can’t handle another post……………
If you need me I’ll be disinfecting my screen and keyboard.
Comment by trueblue — October 25, 2006 @ 10:26 am
Jason and Exley need to be taught how to treat women.
Comment by Zooey — October 25, 2006 @ 10:32 am
I do believe that individuals forfeit their civil rights through bad behaviour - Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
If you believe that, then you should surrender your right to free speech on this site, because you sexually harassed trueblue on this thread (which you have done before and been confronted about). This is both “bad†and illegal behavior. So, let me be the first to say: Goodbye.
Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) — October 25, 2006 @ 10:51 am
I never even addressed you, I never do and never have because I don’t like you.
October 26th, 2006 at 12:46 amI only addressed you when you started shitting on my kid’s illness.
You can’t even be man enough to say you’re wrong now?
What a weak person you are.
true,
Don’t give Jason any more of your time. I don’t plan to, either. He’s hopeless.
On a bright note, both Jason and I were deleted on this thread. Jason was deleted for pure stupidity, and I was deleted for responding to it.
And neither one of us used the f-word. For me, that’s really saying something!
October 26th, 2006 at 12:56 amFunny Zooey! Take a deep breath and have a great evening. :)
October 26th, 2006 at 12:59 amZooey,
Really???
You? Deleted?
……………email me what you said!
**snicker**
;)
October 26th, 2006 at 1:00 amFunny Zooey! Take a deep breath and have a great evening. :)
Comment by Chavez
Thank you! I plan on it.
Goodnight all!
October 26th, 2006 at 1:03 amChavez,
October 26th, 2006 at 1:03 amI’ve always ignored him.
Even when he said crap about me.
It’s now my child that I’m defending. And I’m a big’ol Mama Bear when it comes to my child..!
I must’ve missed the Rules you’re talking about, as I logged on apparently much later. BTW, I am a Christian (but not a crazy one), and I support a woman’s right to choose, gay marriage, and virtually every other liberal stand. You want to know why? I am a liberal. Through and through. But then again, I think that God used evolution in the creation progress, so I’m probably not representative of fundamentalist Christians. Oh yeah… I had a point… Just becasue some Christians are intolerant and don’t act Christlike, doesn’t mean that the problem is with real Christianity and real Christians. The problem is with those who choose to use the bible to authorize their hateful, dogmatic rhetoric. Christ was compassionate, he cared about the disenfranchised, and cared about women, the poor, and the sick. That’s the Christianity I choose to follow, not the one that says if you don’t think like they do then you’re going to hell. There are many roads.
October 26th, 2006 at 1:09 amDear trueblue,
Like I said earlier, I logged on late, but I did want to say something. My Dad had terrible Epilepsy. He was repeatedly hospitalized for status epilepticus, so I am pretty familiar with what your child has to deal with. If you haven’t had a loved one, especially a child (I can only imagine that), have grand mal siezures over and over, you can’t really get it. People can be so stupid. I remember Dad having a massive seizure on the way to the courthouse (where he worked), and seeing all the strangers stare, and his coworkers just gawk as well. The disorder alone is bad enough, but when you add humiliation, shame, stigma, and fear and uncertainty of not knowing when the next seizure will take place, well… it’s almost too much to bear. So, I recognize your Mama Bear stance. Good for you! Your child needs one. I myself have had to take charge in a crowd, get rid of lookie-lous, make sure that Dad was okay, and finally help him get cleaned up and then escape from the humiliating scene. So, please don’t let idiots get you down. Recognize them for what they are, morons, and move along if possible. You need all of your strength to help your child. My best wishes are with you and your family.
October 26th, 2006 at 1:28 am“Found to be true”? Where did you find that Rush? What do you know about taking prescriptio…OOOHHHHHHH!!!! My bad, I forgive you.
October 26th, 2006 at 1:34 amBy all means, please do. :)
October 26th, 2006 at 1:37 amWOW! Did none of you actually see or listen to the entire show? Rush doesnt need to apologize.
If anything you should ask your media source to STOP taking everything he says out of context.
Just shows me how little attention you give to things, no wonder the “drive-by media” works for you. So very sad.
October 26th, 2006 at 3:38 amI’d like to see you or one of your close relations with Parkinsons disease in a few years time.
October 26th, 2006 at 3:56 amI cannot believe anyone would be so insensitive or stupid… How is saying someone with a terrible disease is lying or acting a clever idea. This guy is really truly an ass.
He didn’t find anything to be true , he’s just speculating from MJF’s movement in the advert. I thought it was more movement than normal myself , but I’m willing to give the guy a little freaking slack , seeing as he has the disease and wants to promote research into it, breaking down barriers set in place by a naive bunch of people…
October 26th, 2006 at 4:25 am“I found (it) to be true”
What did you do to seek the truth? “Found” is the past tense of “find.” How did you “find” this truth that you believe? Where-oh-where did you look? In the Bible, the seer and knower of all things? Huh? In your heart that rotten putrid little piece of foil smelling meat. Perhaps in your brain. You thunk it so it must be…….must be…..must be…WHAT???? left over garbage from some occult weird stinking belief you have to long held in your foul putrid brain.
You….. you …….you NEO-CONSERVATIVE BUSHCO YOU!!!!!!!!!!
October 26th, 2006 at 5:17 amSheer stupidity…
Learn to control how to speak man…
seriously…
October 26th, 2006 at 7:02 amThis is Conservative media, and this is what ABC wants you to acknowledge to be the cure for ‘liberalism’ in the media.
To recognize the hate speech of goofy grievances from drug addicted conservative hypocrite pundits.
Wtf?
October 26th, 2006 at 7:14 amOctober 26th, 2006 at 7:16 am
Look, I haven’t heard much of his show this week, but I have listed for several thousand hours. You kind of get to know someone a little when you hear them that much. There are a lot of things that he believes that I disagree with, there always will be. First off, many of you are just as bad as him or anyone else that you start calling names. That’s all many of you are doing - name calling. Are you all in middle school? Is that how you have your conversations? So and so disagrees with you, so you just dismiss them with a ‘you’re stupid!’. Have you even listened to his show more than a few minutes? Or do you just wait for people who are looking for headlines to take a couple of things that he says and publish them? It sounds like he got this one at least partially wrong. (The whole medical analysis of MJF…) It also sounds like the bill that is being voted on may not be quite what it is presented as. Our legislatures do that kind of thing all of the time. They take a 500 page bill, give you the two sentence summary, and later we find that there was more to the bill. Surprise!
You people are starting to sound like the ‘Clinton haters’ from the 90’s! “Clinton is this” or “Clinton is that”. Blah, blah. No actual intelligent conversation, just name calling.
Alan
October 26th, 2006 at 7:16 amIf I wanted to hear Archie Bunker type opinionate rants I would listen to Limbaugh — the simple fact is the world is full of these bigoted opinion spewers and living in Texas I can find one of these idiots at the local dairy queen out in the outlying areas eating them some chicken fried steak fingers and speaking the same idiotic wisdom consistently regurgitates.
October 26th, 2006 at 7:26 amHello folks,
Did it ever occur to anyone that Jason+M.+Hendler might just be a bored fool that says these ridiculous things just to get everyone riled up? I hope that is the case, because if it’s not, the alternative is worse; the village idiot is running loose. That’s all for me. Night, night.
Comment by Hawaii — October 26, 2006 @ 12:08 am
He’s right folks. Give it up. In the interests of accurate information, if JMH spouts his idiocy, just correct the bad info. Don’t say anything else. If he can’t present an argument or at least new information, ignore him.
Stem cells are harvested from embryos that are already going to be destroyed. If you’re not against invitro-fertilization, you can’t be against stem cell research. New technology will allow stem cells to be harvested without destroying the embryo. JASON: If you want to pick this apart, be my guest, but bring references and show your work.
About MJF. He wasn’t off his meds, he didn’t eggagerate his movements to pander to the pity strings. If he was off his meds, his movements would have been LESS severe. It was medically impossible for him to do what Rush suggested he did. JASON: If you want to refute that, by all means, but as above, use references and show your work.
This is not about Democrats or Republicans or how much of a jerk Rush Limbaugh is or the right to die or Madonna, or clones, or adoption. It’s about the accuracy of Rush’s analysis of a medical condition. If you want to do anything but refute the above two points, please do me a favor and stick a lit M-80 in your ear. Thank you.
October 26th, 2006 at 7:32 amIt’s about the accuracy of Rush’s analysis of a medical condition
Yeh, I agree, Rush should compare himself to other peoples problems. Say, “I [Rush] was faking my ingrown butt hair just like MF was faking his Parkinsons disease by acting.”
“MF didn’t take his medication and I [Rush] didn’t use preperation h on my ingrown butt hair and therefore didn’t have to serve in the military, I acted just like MF did, but I did it so I could shirk my duties, I take back none of what I say –Rush Limbaugh.”
October 26th, 2006 at 7:46 amBOTTOM LINE HERE:
The GOP is losing ground. This ad is working EXACTLY as it was intended. JMH is a retard.
Next topic?
October 26th, 2006 at 7:56 am[…] Today, however, the media somehow got wind and reported that Limbaugh apologized for making such ill conceived remarks. Turns out that the media had it all wrong; Limbaugh not only did not apologize but took the chance to reiterate his position on the whole issue by essentially saying that he has no regrets for saying what he said and in the manner in which it was phrased. I stand by what I said. I take back none of what I said. I wouldn’t rephrase it any differently. It is what I believe; it is what I think. It is what I have found to be true. […]
October 26th, 2006 at 8:00 amLush Rimbaugh shouldn’t point fingers at anyone else. And no one should confuse an interesting speech cadence for intelligence.
October 26th, 2006 at 8:34 am#183, swordsbane,
I have no problem with any stem cell research that doesn’t destroy embryos, which I, and millions of other people, recognize as a human life, requiring our care and protection.
btru,
I am only mildly Asperger. Moreover, Asperger / Autistic individuals do feel empathy, the breakdown is in communication of that empathy, both to and from these individuals. Through “behavioural therapy”, individuals with ASD (autistic spectral disorder) can learn the cues from body language and speech that is not innate, and quickly adapt / compensate for shortcomings.
That said, I will not allow Dems to demagogue by constantly hurling victims onto the stage and demand everyone empty their pockets in support. Moreover, I am far more than unsympathetic to Dems who spit vitriol, then scream bloody murder when they are hit back. It only encourages me to hit more, until they learn not to spit vitriol. If they can’t learn intellectually, I am happy to use Pavlovian negative reinforcement - their choice.
October 26th, 2006 at 8:35 amPtewey! (Me spitting in Limbaugh’s face) (Even though it’s a waste of good spit)
October 26th, 2006 at 8:37 amThese guys would kick the crutches out from under one of Jerry’s kids if it promoted their selfish agenda. Rush is at his best when it comes to picking on the weak and the down-trodden. Racism, biggotry, homophobia, and any other divisive methods are all his specialties. He lacks the ability to stand up to any real man, all the while hiding behind a microphone. What a waste of a human being.
October 26th, 2006 at 8:44 amIsn’t it just so painfully obvious, that there are people in the US like “jasonhendler” who take up any and every republican/neo-con viewpoint, and never disagree with anything that comes out of that lying, traitorous group of haters?
For god’s sake, anyone who attacks a guy who is doing what he thinks is right, and is undeniably ill, and blames everything on democrats (who the flying f*ck has been in power for the last 6 years? congress/senate/president? And everything is dems fault? AHAHAHAAHHHAHAA!) is simply pathetic.
October 26th, 2006 at 8:45 amPersonally, if you want to irritate and annoy people like “jason,” I think we should continually point out the following:
Christian fundamentalists and muslim fundamentalists are two sides of the same coin, i.e.
1)Christian fundies all think that liberalism is the downfall of their society, and guess what?
2)Muslim fundies all think that liberalism is the downfall of their society, AND
Muslim fundies blow themselves up in the name of religion, while christian fundies send their young over to blow up the muslims, and die in the process.
how the f*ck is that so different?
October 26th, 2006 at 8:48 am