Speaker Hastert Lies About Leader Pelosi
Yesterday, embattled House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL) released a statement attacking House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) over immigration:
Democrat Leader Pelosi’s plan is to leave our borders open, grant blanket amnesty and provide Social Security benefits to illegal immigrants. Is THAT their plan? Democrat Leader Nancy Pelosi has NEVER visited the border. She claims to understand the needs of those on the front lines but has never visited those agents and offers no solutions.
First, Hastert is fabricating Pelosi’s position on immigration. Pelosi has consistently backed extensive new border security measures and comprehensive immigration reform.
Second, Hastert’s claim that Pelosi has never visited the border or met with border agents is false. Today, Rep. Silvestre Reyes (D-TX), a 26-year veteran of the United States Border Patrol, issued a statement discussing Pelosi’s trip to El Paso, Texas, in March:
House Democratic Leader Pelosi not only understands the importance of border security, she understands the dynamics and importance of trade and commerce to our border region and our country. She understands the critical implications that failures on the part of both the Bush Administration and the Republican Congressional leadership have had on our border communities and in making our country less safe even five years after 9/11.
How do I know? I have been at the border with her. She has taken the time not only to visit but to listen.
Here’s a photo of Pelosi in El Paso:
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October 26th, 2006 at 4:19 pmIs she for or against building a fence? Is she for or against deporting all illegal aliens? Is she for or against providing illegals with government benefits?
Just curious
October 26th, 2006 at 4:21 pmHow many 26 year Border Patrol vets does Fatty Hastert know?
October 26th, 2006 at 4:22 pmWhat a phony!
desperate scumbag tactics from desperate scumbag republicans.
October 26th, 2006 at 4:24 pmRog - you’re not curious, but it is curious that you think Hastert’s comments aren’t curious.
October 26th, 2006 at 4:25 pmThe Republican party, in Total power, has done NOTHING meaningful in 6 years about immigration. Fear politics before the election, hohum.
October 26th, 2006 at 4:25 pmRoger_Roger, I understand your curiosity about the finer points of Rep. Pelosi’s positions, and I can’t really help you there.
But I’m curious, too: how do you feel about the actual TOPIC of this thread, that is, Speaker Hastert’s obvious falsehoods?
October 26th, 2006 at 4:27 pmHastert’s Tarot reading for today.
Love: Strength
Touchstone: The Chariot
Career: The Tower
“Think before you act,†is your motto for today, dear Denny Hastert! Under the double influence of Strength and the Chariot, you’ll be racing ahead, without worrying too much about any possible dangers in the emotional realm. Don’t be too reckless though, especially if you are in a committed relationship. Your partner won’t be too happy if your heart goes out in different directions like a butterfly. A little reflection before you start making eyes at other people is a good idea. Don’t take any risks at work today. The Tower indicates that established structures may be pulled down, obliging you to struggle to hang on to your status or your responsibilities. The Chariot suggests that everything is going too fast for you, and that you are unable to keep hold of the reins, so there’s no point in trying to swim against the current. You’ll only exhaust yourself for nothing.
October 26th, 2006 at 4:28 pmI’m with KRank on this one…Roger_Roger, how do you feel about Speaker Haster’s falsehoods?
October 26th, 2006 at 4:30 pmHe knows there are enough people out there that are either too stupid or too stubborn to see the truth.
And then there are people like roger_roger that will believe anything as long as it helps them with their war against Democrats.
October 26th, 2006 at 4:32 pmPoor Denny Hastert, ex wrestling coach, now too big to wear spandex singlets and get rough with the PAGES, so he bullies Nancy Pelosi. If you call him on it, he will just obfuscate and say, “Its Clintons fault.” What scum….
Texas Juice
October 26th, 2006 at 4:32 pmOkay, so to take a page from the Republican book, since I believe Mr. Hastert is lying here, I demand that he testify under oath that these statements are true and that he has the evidence to back them up. You know kind of like how he demanded that Ms. Pelosi testify that she had nothing to do with the revelation of Mr. Foley’s indiscretions.
October 26th, 2006 at 4:33 pmHastert lying? What do you expect from the Protector of Sex Predators.
October 26th, 2006 at 4:33 pmHastert can’t even protect the young pages from his own party members. No credibility left for this fat fool.
October 26th, 2006 at 4:33 pmRoger Roger, since you couldn’t actually go to the link I pulled this quote to help you understand her position. “This fence that will not actually be built is a perfect symbol of the Republicans’ unwillingness to make controlling our borders a priority. On 10 occasions over the past five years, House Republicans defeated Democratic efforts to improve border security. Had Republicans not repeatedly rejected these efforts, there would be 6,600 more Border Patrol agents and 2,700 more immigration agents on the job today with 14,000 more detention beds available to assist in making our borders secure.
She is for very tough border security and she points out that this bill Ol GW signed will not be built. Just another slogan from the slogan factory.
Why do you support an administration that promises one thing but does another? Answer that before you go off on a sideways rant. Stand behind your bullshit instead of just attacking and bouncing (very similar to a cut and run).
October 26th, 2006 at 4:33 pmSo Denny’s not only a pervert enabler but a liar as well - it figures!
October 26th, 2006 at 4:35 pm#9,
I feel that Hasert is a complete loser.
October 26th, 2006 at 4:35 pmBut just because I feel that most of the Repugs are losers, doesn’t mean the dems are any better. Poltics on both sides of the isle are just nasty right now. Both sides are filled with low lifes. Mickey Mouse is a better canidate then Pelosi or Hasert. It is very sad.
October 26th, 2006 at 4:39 pmUmmmm, not to doubt the veracity of the STORY, but the photo is NOT of Border Patrol agents. Those uniforms look more like local police. Not to say that she wasn’t there, but the photo isn’t of Border Patrol.
Joe
October 26th, 2006 at 4:42 pmDennis Hastert, please don’t resign yet and please keep ranting! The media coverage on you is helping Democrats more than their own political tv ads!
October 26th, 2006 at 4:45 pmHasturd, I can hear that giant sucking sound of air being let out of your fat ass…kind of like Ross Perot’s description of the economy.
October 26th, 2006 at 4:45 pmYou know what, Denny?
Ross was right!
You assholes let all the mfg. jobs go to China to help China Mart Roll Back Wages.
Now you’re making the same sound.
When was the last time you were at the border?
Why does Hasturd support Pedophiles?
Hastert isn’t lying, he’s just as clueless as Incurious George. What’s important is to get your version out into the news cycle first and let the other guy (or woman) play catch up. Besides, Fat Bastert would rather talk about anything other than his Foley Scandal testimony and its implications.
October 26th, 2006 at 4:47 pmRoger x 2
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn’t it the Shrub-In-Chief himself who was advocating a “comprehensive immigration reform”, where all undocumented alien’s would receive work permits?
After all, his drinking and whoring buddy Vicente Fox does not want any strong border control, does he?
Fat Dennis’ calendar for today
9:00 AM $100 breakfast at the Capitol dining room with lobbyist X
9:30 AM Issue lie about Nancy Pelosi/Democrat position on border security
10:00 AM Attend signing of the bogus “Border Fence Act” and pretend my party realy gives a sh** about it.
11:00 AM Massage
12:00 $200 lunch at Capitol Hill dining room with the lobbyist Y
1:00 PM Lie about war in Iraq and Afghanistan situation.
1:30 PM Meeting with Diebold re fixed voting machines for November 7
2:00 PM Lie about actions re Foley and other page molesters
2:30 PM Go home
October 26th, 2006 at 4:49 pmRather than building expensive fences, House Democrats favor increasing the border patrol (I just looked at their web site). The border patrol is spread way too thin to be effective. Money should be allocated toward human resources, not a silly physical wall. Port security also needs to be beefed up.
October 26th, 2006 at 4:50 pm“comprehensive immigration reform” = amnesty for illegal aliens and increased legal immigration. The Dems and the Repubs both answer to the same corporate masters. Both sides are a part of the globalist agenda.
October 26th, 2006 at 4:55 pmwhat is it with republicans and their use of the word ‘democrat’? i mean, sometimes ‘democrat’ is correct when used as a noun, i.e., “the 3rd district Democrat is kicking butt in the polls” why do the rethugs use ‘democrat’ as an adjective instead of ‘democratic’ e.g., Democratic Party? is it just to cheese off us democrats? is it code? anyone, anyone?
October 26th, 2006 at 4:57 pmWe alrady know Haster is a liar .>no one in the democratic party needs a lesson in ethic from that fat lying illinois porc .
October 26th, 2006 at 4:57 pmWe alrady know Haster is a liar .>no one in the democratic party needs a lesson in ethic from that fat lying illinois porc .The ethics commitee needs to do his work and get rid of the idiot .
October 26th, 2006 at 4:59 pmWe alrady know Haster is a liar .>no one in the democratic party needs a lesson in ethic from that fat lying illinois porc .The ethics commitee needs to do his work and get rid of the idiot .
October 26th, 2006 at 4:59 pmRoger_Roger (#20)-
What a wimpy’comeback’. Can’t you do better than your ‘they’re all losers’ cop-out? It also seems that several posters have answered your questions and your closed-minded reply speaks volumes about your closed mind.
October 26th, 2006 at 5:01 pmI vote we start calling the Republican party the “Repub” party. Turnabout’s fair play. Actually, I would call them the “Rethug” party but ut probably wouldn’t be a good idea for politicians to say that.
October 26th, 2006 at 5:04 pmHow about the prepub party.
October 26th, 2006 at 5:07 pmDennis Hastert is a big, fat liar… literally!
October 26th, 2006 at 5:07 pmWhat the hell?
Since when did we go back to war with Mexico?
The border is the “front line?” Time to get scared!
October 26th, 2006 at 5:08 pmFatstert needs to shut the hell up with his vienna sausage having self.
October 26th, 2006 at 5:09 pmhas tubby ever visited the border?
October 26th, 2006 at 5:09 pmwas it just to have a dirty sanchez?
#32,
Yes, they did answer my question. She seems to be against the fence, against deporting the illegals, and for providing them with government benefits. That is one way to look at it, I just don’t agree. Why can’t I choose to not like Hasert and Pelosi?
October 26th, 2006 at 5:09 pm28. what is it with republicans and their use of the word ‘democrat’?
Probably same reason Bush likes telling fart jokes. He regressed from excesssive drinking and is child like.
October 26th, 2006 at 5:09 pmLet’s not forget, Denny, there are two borders - Mexico and Canada. But who needs to trifle with Canada. I mean, after all, the only border-hopping terrorist who actually had a plan that was caught (and he was caught on Clinton’s watch!) came through Canada (Ahmed Ressam).
The border, Denny, is south and north.
October 26th, 2006 at 5:10 pmI vote we start calling the Republican party the “Repub†party. Turnabout’s fair play. Actually, I would call them the “Rethug†party but ut probably wouldn’t be a good idea for politicians to say that.
Comment by Katie
Personally I have started calling them rePIGlicans, but that may be insulting to pigs.
October 26th, 2006 at 5:10 pmHow long before they photoshop Al Franken’s head on there?
October 26th, 2006 at 5:12 pmShe seems to be against the fence, against deporting the illegals, and for providing them with government benefits. —roger(x2)
Now I do not see that she said that at all.
October 26th, 2006 at 5:14 pmProjecting again Roger?
Has Hastert been to the border?????
October 26th, 2006 at 5:15 pmShe seems to be against the fence, against deporting the illegals, and for providing them with government benefits.
If we’re going to continue using illegals in our economy, then she’s right. All this talk about illegals over the years, we still wind up with more of them. I don’t see that changing. Banana Republicans like cheap labor.
So why not just be honest about it and deal with it like any other social issue?
October 26th, 2006 at 5:16 pm.
Hastert would do well in Florida - he has the physique of a manatee and we love those creatures down here.
October 26th, 2006 at 5:18 pmWHILE I ALREADY VOTED, EARLY, DEMOCRAT- THOSE -AREN’T BORDER PATROL UNIFORMED OFFICERS- MAYBE EL PASO POLICE, BUT NOT-BP.
October 26th, 2006 at 5:18 pmHastert hasn’t stepped down yet? Why not?
October 26th, 2006 at 5:18 pmOctober 26, 2006
TheBorder, Arizona:
October 26th, 2006 at 5:22 pmDenny Hastert visited Taco Bell today in order to conduct quality control on every burrito, gordito, and chalupa in inventory. Mr. Hastert declared them satisfactory, stating: “ARgh ah uf uf hack yak cough!” The Chihuahua, fearful for its life, seems to have run away and hasn’t been seen since.
Yeah the picture is El Paso police with her, so what?
It still proves she was at the border. Last I looked thats where El Paso was.
That arguement is sooo stupid.
October 26th, 2006 at 5:27 pmIn #49, I forgot the link.
October 26th, 2006 at 5:28 pmBut, but, but Wayne, she could have been photoshopped in! That must be true, because Speaker Hastert would not lie to America.
October 26th, 2006 at 5:29 pmAnything to deflect blame for his own shortcomings.
October 26th, 2006 at 5:34 pmBut, but, but Wayne, she could have been photoshopped in! That must be true, because Speaker Hastert would not lie to America.
Comment by oxillini
hahahaha….. **cough**Foley**cough**
October 26th, 2006 at 5:38 pmIt’s so easy to be a Republican, isn’t it. They’re completely free of any shame about lying. I suppose that when you’re doing the Lord’s work, the ends justify the means.
The farce known as America’s immigration debate
October 26th, 2006 at 5:50 pmI could put dogshit in cans, put a “gourmet chilli” label on it, and (if i told them i was a “conservative”) the avg. republican voter would pay me $15/can for it, tell me that they liked it, and attack anyone who dared say the contents of the can “had an odor”. funny, funny, funny…..
October 26th, 2006 at 5:58 pmsomeone’s good at photo-shop!
http://thedefeatists.typepad.com/apoplectic/
October 26th, 2006 at 5:58 pmJust for once I wish she would get pissed and send his ugly ass back to the bell tower.
October 26th, 2006 at 5:59 pm[…] Denny had dreams of going to the Big City and being a Kept Man for some Rich, Old Corporation. He failed to realize how many Dicks he’d have to play with along the way. […]
October 26th, 2006 at 6:02 pmYeah, I photoshopped myself in a picture where I was playing lead guitar for Led Zeppelin. Technology is so cool.
But I’m sure Pelosi has made a run to the border before; as is to Taco Bell. Can’t you picture her muching on a crunch wrap and blasting the GOP?
October 26th, 2006 at 6:22 pmDenny Hastert is too dumb to realize Pelosi is from a border state.
October 26th, 2006 at 6:23 pmClick on the “en espanol” button on Denny’s website and the anti-Mexican story disappears from the screen…
October 26th, 2006 at 6:41 pmI did a web search to see if I could find a picture of US border patrol uniforms and found the most amazing things. The US border patrol uniforms are MADE IN MEXICO! Wow, what a great idea that was.
October 26th, 2006 at 6:51 pmWhy is Denny Hastert campaigning against Nancy Pelosi? He’s not running against her. And I notice that in a general statement about another bill signing (statement), the paragraph about Pelosi is bold-faced while the other two in that statement were not.
October 26th, 2006 at 6:52 pmIt’s almost amusing to watch the Republicans implode - they are increasingly desperate and know that all they have left is the totally bughouse crazy wing-nut right. And the more they appeal to them, the more they alienate the right leaning independents who may be misguided, but are not cerifiable!
Plus there is new page scandal info on the teevee news today - that’s gotta be worth a few more notches down the old approval rating
October 26th, 2006 at 6:58 pmWas there ever anything that fat bastard didn’tlie about???
October 26th, 2006 at 7:06 pmWas there ever anything that fat bastard didn’tlie about???
Well, I think the bill signing really was scheduled for the next day, so there’s that. Otherwise, I’m not sure.
October 26th, 2006 at 7:11 pmI am total democrat and have been all my 57 years. So i believe what is said about Pelosi’s comments on immigration. But the picture looks VERY MUCH to have been photoshopped. Would recommend you remove that part, as the rest is very likely accurtate.
October 26th, 2006 at 7:15 pmHow can the Republicans claim they will be better at protecting America from terrorists, when they are wetting their pants over Pelosi?
October 26th, 2006 at 7:27 pmUnder House Rules, doesn’t Pelosi get a free kick at Hastert’s balls, now?
October 26th, 2006 at 7:40 pmNico is wrong again, as usual. Pelosi voted “No” on the border security bill that the President just signed. She may have been to El Paso, and had a photo-op with a couple of border guards (notice it is an indoor shot) but that’s not the same as visiting the border.
Pelosi has never spent any time observing the border with the Minutemen. She has never gone down to the worst illegal immigration points to witness the breaking of our laws and the damage caused to property and habitat (yes, illegal immigrants are the worst environmental hazard in many border areas).
Hastert’s comments were 100% true. As a famous Democrat used to say, “I don’t give ‘em hell. I just tell the truth and they think it’s hell.” Hastert could easily say the same thing about Pelosi. I can’t wait for Election Day!
October 26th, 2006 at 8:10 pmHe has no balls, just lotsa rolls.
October 26th, 2006 at 8:26 pmThe drooling fools that call themselves conservative should just have Rush and his fat pal Hastert go on a whoring trip to the border and do a little policing. Many would run away from the sight of these assclown blowhards and go south.
Hey Dad, if you read the post above you would see the letter from the agents that said Pelosi DID visit the border. And why would she meet with those fools the Minutemen, they are just naysayers like yourself. Get a grip and realize the prohibition you wish for will NEVER happen. There is no way to prevent the current border problem except to allow workers to cross. PROHIBITION OF ANY KIND HAS NEVER WORKED IN THE HISTORY OF HUMANITY AND NEVER WILL.
October 26th, 2006 at 8:28 pmA little more kool aid there citizen dad?
October 26th, 2006 at 8:28 pmShe may have been to El Paso […] but that’s not the same as visiting the border.
Comment by Citizen+Dad — October 26, 2006 @ 8:10 pm
So she was in a border town, but she was not at the border?
This is enough to make my head spin….
Pelosi has never spent any time observing the border with the Minutemen.
Oh, I see… you actually wanted her to stand on the line in the sand binoculars in hand.
But Hastert didn’t say “Pelosi has never watched the border for illegal crossings”, did he? That was not the claim. He said Pelosi has never visited the border. Two different things.
She has never gone down to the worst illegal immigration points
I thought Pelosi was a US senator, not a border patrol agent. By the way, has Hastert “gone down” there?
Hastert’s comments were 100% true.
Let’s see.
Claim: “Nancy Pelosi has NEVER visited the border.”
Fact: Pelosi was in El Paso. That’s the border.
Claim: “[Pelosi] has never visited those agents and offers no solutions.”
Fact: Pelosi has met with border patrol agents (those in the picture. among others) and Rep. Reyes wrote a ringing endorsement. She has also backed border security mesures.
Seems to me Hastert was 100% wrong.
October 26th, 2006 at 8:40 pmNancy Pelosi is being equated with the boogeyman by the RNC. The RNC is loking pretty desperate.
October 26th, 2006 at 8:41 pmHastert is so certain that he will win reelction that he doesn’t even show up for events when his opponent, Laesch, does. That leaves Laesch with no one to debate, and in fact, it often leaves Laesch off the dais because his opponent is absent.
Hastert is a liar, a man who has grown fat and rich on the taxpayers. He’s come a long way from the fry-cook, turned teacher/wrestling coach and the income that goes with that life in the midwest. He has become a Washington insider, a power broker (despite his speech being not much better than Bush’s) and a rich man.
To lose his seat of power to a little grandmother would be a big pill to swallow, even for his gullet.
Some of the ignorant ranting about the border is just pathetic. The reason I mention another attempt at a prohibition that never works is the drug war that has spent billions of tax dollars with very little prevention or reduction of drug use. The same border that these Minutemen fools are stringing barbwire to make a lame statement and wave the American flag is crossed with all forms of contraband daily and drugs make up the most of the contraband. So how do these fools think we can stop humans?? It will continue forever no matter what plan is put into operation. Again, prohibition has never worked and never will.
October 26th, 2006 at 8:42 pmMaybe it’s just me, but if I were Hastert (thanks god I’m not), I’d be quiet and stay in the background for a while. Just sayin’…
October 26th, 2006 at 8:52 pmIsn’t this the same Dennis Hastert that dodged the draft with the excuse of bad knees?
Hastert hs been caught in so many lies that the only ones who beleive him now are two dogs and a kidnapped cat in Wheaton. This guy makes a sidewalk slab look like a Mensa Society Candidate.
October 26th, 2006 at 8:57 pmIsn’t this the same Dennis Hastert that dodged the draft with the excuse of bad knees?
Comment by lyleblog
I think we know now the real reason his knees are bad.
October 26th, 2006 at 9:03 pmbeeeeeeeep…tap tap….beeeeeeeep….darn lie detector won’t quit when the name Haster is said….beeeep
October 26th, 2006 at 10:29 pmL O O O O K, THE GOP ARE ALWAYS SMEARING SOME ONE WITH THEIR LIES , THE GOP STANDS FOR NOTHING GOOD ANY MORE, LIL OLE CHICKENSHIT AIR GUARD FLUNKIE GEEORGE JR, 5 DEFERAL CHEENEY, FAT ASS KARL ROVE SITING ON HIS BIG BACON BUTT ASS WITH HIS DEFERRAL FROM VIET NAM, THE WHITE HOUSE IS NOTUING BUT A CHICKEN COOP,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ITS NEEDS TO BE PAINTED YELLOW,,,,,,,,,THE FACT THAT THE BUSH GOP IGNORED REPEATEDLY THE CIA INTELLIGENCE IS GROUNDS TO IMPEACH THE WHOLE BUNCH,,,,,,,,,,,,,,THE IRAG INTELLIGENCE MADE UP BY THE BUSH GANG IS ALL THE PROOF NEEDED!!!!! OUR 2ND BIGGEST MISTAKE NOT JERKING BUSH OUT BY HIS COLLAR A LONG TIME AGO,
October 26th, 2006 at 10:44 pmFor those who haven’t been following this issue very closely, “comprehensive immigration reform” is a code word for “a massive amnesty”.
If you disagree, bear in mind that what Pelosi or other politicians say isn’t as important as what millions of people around the world will believe.
Millions of people around the world will look on “comprehensive immigration reform” as “a massive amnesty”, and they’ll come a-running.
October 26th, 2006 at 11:04 pmHas anyone lately asked Denny Hastert why Bob Ney is still on the payroll?
October 26th, 2006 at 11:21 pmYou can just tell that the border guard on the left is faking Parkinsons. He’s not shaking at all!
October 27th, 2006 at 2:12 am[…] Hastert press release: “Democrat Leader Pelosi’s plan is to leave our borders open, grant blanket amnesty and provide Social Security benefits to illegal immigrants. Is THAT their plan?” [via Think Progress] […]
October 27th, 2006 at 2:19 amWhile soon to be Speaker Pelosi has been visiting the border talking about security, Hasturd has been in the Ethics Committee talking about predator protection. What a way to end a career. Now maybe he will have time to buy a Bowflex and lose about 300 pounds while he watches a woman do the job he couldn’t.
October 27th, 2006 at 2:28 am#21 http://www.vizu.com/ vot/ Current+Events/ Legal/ Politics+-+U.S./ Domestic+US/ immigration/ illegal/ aliens/ / poll-vote.html?n=5552
October 27th, 2006 at 2:28 am.
THE SWIFTBOATING OF “EXIT POLLINGâ€
Last night it started. CNN’s Jeff Greenfield was interviewed about the forthcoming elections, and his parting comment at the end of the segment was what would have appeared to be an off-handed disparaging remark about the reliability of Exit Polls.
Greenfield was/is shilling for Rove – and this was a TALKING POINT ordered up by Rove. “Exit Polling†had not been part of the prior discussion, but was something that he slipped in at the end of the segment – as if ordered to do so.
Rove has been interviewed in recent days proclaiming that HIS polling (which he proclaims nobody else has access to and is superior to all other polling data) portrays the key races to be very close, not nearly the blowouts that the REALITY BASED COMMUNITY is seeing.
THIS IS A SET UP.
If you are going to STEAL AN ELECTION VIA VOTE RIGGING – you need to lay the ground work – planting doubt in the minds of the electorate through the media shills.
Exit polling has been a reliable method by which to approximate the result of elections prior to the final votes being tallied. Exit polling has only been called into question in the last two election cycles – but ONLY because the Exit Polling data were not confirmed by the final “official†vote tally. As has now been proven, it was not the Exit Polling data that was inaccurate or unreliable, it was the reporting of the Official Total†that had been tampered with.
It’s time to TAKE THE OFFENSIVE where Exit Polling is concerned and reveal this Swiftboating of “Exit Polling†for what it is – a Rovian sham designed specifically to condition the electorate to disbelieve the exit poll results (which will portray the house and Senate going under Democratic Control), and rather to only believe the “Official†(FALSE) vote count.
The Mainstream Media is fully complicit in the Rovian Brainwashing campaign to discredit “Exit Polling†as unscientific hoohah, when in fact it is the smoking gun EVIDENCE of election fraud used throughout the world. Ask International Elections Observers about the value of Exit Polling.
The GOP has employed a firm called Penn, Schoen, & Berland to skew exit poll results in the past in order to achieve their own political ends. Watch out for this firm’s exit poll results in this years elections. They are on Rove’s payroll:
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=70727
Electoral Fraud Is the First Step on the Road to Tyranny
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=70456
Read the link above – GREAT ARTICLE.
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October 27th, 2006 at 6:53 am#93, Bullseye.
My question to all of us: What will YOU do when they steal this election? Will you sit quietly by and allow it to happen?
October 27th, 2006 at 8:42 am#93
October 27th, 2006 at 9:38 amright on
Wait a minute I can’t get this straight…Was it Nancy Pelosi who sunk the titanic, brought down the Hindenburg and caused 9-11 or was it Clinton. OR were they both responcible for everything wrong in the world today since that nasty three-way they had with Osama…
The Republicans blameshifting has reached psychotic levels..
October 27th, 2006 at 11:04 amThat disgusting troll hasn’t said an honest thing in ages, just looking at him gives me shivers, and all the tools that worship at the altar of bushes ass, they make me laugh.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:42 amOne more thing:
October 27th, 2006 at 1:16 pmThe Rapublicans passed a law to build a fence. Whether you agree with that or not, you have to realize they did it so they could say they did, solely for election purposes, because THEY DID NOT PASS ANY METHOD OF FUNDING THE FENCE! (The 700 mile fence for the 2000 mile border). Until it’s funded, it won’t get built. Get it? The whole vote thing was bullshit to assuage their pinhead fans.
In response to #28’s question about use of Democrat/Democratic. This was planned very carefully and deliberately and the word went out to all Republican operatives, not to use the word Democratic to describe club, committee, party or legislator. It has been a while since I read about it, but it was some entity such as American Heritage Institute. Grammatically speaking, while the word Republican is both noun and adjective, the word Democrat is noun only, and Democratic is the adjective to modify a noun. But the Republicans don’t like to be seen as referring to their opponents as being more “democratic” than they are, hence their move to insult Democrats by referring to them inappropriately. Any editor worth his salt will put [sic] after any such use in an article or speech.
October 27th, 2006 at 5:52 pmAll this talk about border security measures is beside the point. If you don’t want illegal immigrants, jail employers who don’t check for green cards when they hire. When that happens, jobs for illegals will dry up and illegals will no longer come here. Republicans want it both ways: to sound tough while allowing employers to exploit the illegals. The usual hypocrisy.
October 27th, 2006 at 6:33 pm[…] “Denny Hastert is lying about Nancy Pelosi! Lying!” […]
November 3rd, 2006 at 3:56 pmBush Administration, Dying at the Border
This is from “Skeptical Economistâ€. This is the one of the best articles I have ever read on economics and illegal immigration.
It is no secret that the Bush administration is failing and failing badly. The woes of the administration are legion, Iraq, immigration, the economy, Katrina, health care, gasoline prices, etc. The impact on public opinion is profound. Bush is well on his way to being one of the least popular presidents in U.S. history. His current popularity rating of 31% may be a high water mark. The twenties and perhaps teens are not that far off. Increasingly he has lost, not just liberals and mainstream Americans, but conservatives as well. The key question is why? Why has this once promising administration gone downhill so far and so fast? Is it just bad luck or is their a deeper force at work? In my view, the ideology and practice of Open Borders has condemned this president to complete failure. Could the Bush administration turn itself around by changing its stance on immigration? Yes, but it is exceedingly unlikely to happen. Bush is doomed and may not finish his term in office.
It is clear that the immigration polices of this administration are deeply unpopular and contrary to what the public wants. Clearly, immigration is contributing mightily to the low standing of this president. However, immigration is also directly responsible for the economic failings of this president and is (one step removed) also responsible for the debacle in Iraq. Immigration is also partially responsible for all of the other problems (Kartrina, gasoline prices, health care, Dubai ports, etc.). The links between immigration and what ails Bush (and America) are explained in more detail below. What should be clear by the end, is that immigration is either directly or partially for everything (and there is a lot) that is weighing down this president.
The immigration failures of this administration are obvious. The border is totally out of control and Bush completely refuses to even try to control it. Ordinary Americans are demanding immigration control and Bush has abandoned even the pretense of enforcing our laws (by some measures enforcement has declined by 95% at least, but other measures 100%). Ordinary Americans fiercely resent illegal aliens taking over their neighborhoods, jobs, and schools. Bush actually proposed legislation to replace every American worked with a foreigner who would do the same job for less (the “willing worker†program).
To call the administration out of touch on immigration would be an injustice to the language. Polls show strong support for greatly intensified enforcement. Bush is still trying to have the Kennedy Amnesty bill passed. Why the administration is so committed to policies that the American people regard as toxic is another matter. However, the reality of a president at war with his own people on this issue, should not be in doubt. Astoundingly, Zogby finds that only 17% of Americans approve of Bush’s immigration policies (7). On border security, Bush gets a 16% approval rating.
Immigration is also responsible for Bush’s economic woes. Superficially the economy should be a source of considerable strength for Bush. The high level numbers are actually rather good. Unemployment is down to 4.6% from a peak of 6.3% in June of 2003. GDP growth in Q1 2006 was 4.8%. The economy grew by 2.7% in 2003, 4.2% in 2004, and 3.5% in 2005. The Dow Jones Industrial Average has rallied from a low of 7286 on October 9th, 2002 to a recent high of 11,643 on May 10, 2006. That a gain of 59.8% in less than four years. The S&P is up 57.25% in the same period. Definitely a lot for investors to cheer about, particularly in the aftermath of the Tech Bubble and corporate scandals (Enron, Tyco, Health South, etc.).
The zooming stock market has reflected fast rising corporate profits. Pretax profits bottomed out at $714 billion (annual rate) in 3Q2001 and have since risen to $1,293 billion in 3Q2005 (not adjusted for inflation) (11). As a percent of GDP profits have grown from 7.0% of GDP (3Q2001) to a peak of 10.9% of GDP in 2Q2005 (down to 10.3% in 3Q2005). At 10.9% of GDP, corporate profits were higher than any year since 1968.
The productivity numbers have also been very, very good. Nonfarm productivity has risen by 17% or more since 2001. What the BLS calls multifactor productivity is up almost 8% since 2000. Per-worker/GDP is perhaps the broadest measure of productivity growth. In chained 2000 dollars, per-worker GDP is up by 8.73%. CPI-U adjusted, per-worker GDP has grown by 7.95%. The strong growth in productivity has almost completely offset nominal wage growth. Unit labor costs have only risen by 4.3% since 2001 (9).
Of course, Americans haven’t been shy about spending under Bush. Indeed, it’s been party time for several years as anyone who travels or frequents upscale restaurants can attest. The number tell the same happy story. Personal Consumption Expenditures (PCE) rose by 15.64% from 1Q2001 to 4Q2005. Not bad given that GDP only rose by 13.9% in the same five years (13).
As you can see it is easy to come up with a whole panoply of good economic news. But still… The American people just don’t agree. Poll after poll give gloomy views on the economy. Indeed 59% of Americans rate the economy as only “fair†or “poor†(8). Is the public wrong? Deluded? Confused by liberals? Where it only so. The sad truth is that the economic boom has passed the American people by. Indeed, they are suffering more from the backwash of inflated prices than enjoying any of the fruits. Why? As is all too frequently the case, Open Borders is killing the American Dream by making sure that only immigrants (legal and illegal) and the elites get richer while ordinary Americans get poorer.
This is not some liberal/left-wing fantasy. Indeed the left goes to great pains to avoid using the “I†word when they are talking about jobs/wages/incomes. The sad reality is that from the standpoint of ordinary working Americans, the economy is weak, at best. Some of the facts are downright scary. For example, only 9% of the new jobs created from 2000 to 2005 when to the American people even though Americans accounted for 61% of adult population growth (1). Worse, labor force participation has been falling since Bush took office (10). In January of 2001, it was 67.2%. Now it is 66.1%. You have to go back to the first days of the Clinton administration to find numbers this low (actually 66.2% in January of 1993). Labor force participation does not normally fall in an expanding economy… (12). Indeed, this appears to be the first recovery with declining labor force participation.
Sadly, the minority data is worse. Black male labor force participation has fallen from 69.4% in January of 2001 to 67.7% in May of 2006. Black female labor force participation declined from 60.1% to 59.1% in the same time period. Hispanic labor force participation (both sexes) has also declined, from 69.9% in January of 2001 to 68.7% in May of 2005.
The jobs growth numbers all point in the same direction. This is, by far, the worst recovery in modern history for employment. The last recession ended in November of 2001. Since then (actually the next 48 months) employment has grown by 4.7%. The worst prior recovery enjoyed jobs growth of 6.2%. The average recovery since the 1960s has produced 9.5% growth in jobs. Sadly, the payroll employment data is much worse (14) showing only 2.6% growth over 4 years.
Average weekly earnings peaked back in November of 2003 and have since declined. Amazingly, weekly wages are now back where they were in 1959 and 17% below the high in 1972. Forty six years without a raise. Something to be proud of. Not surprisingly the poverty rate has risen steadily since Bush took office. Back in 2000 the poverty rate was 11.3%. By 2004 it reach 12.7%. The poverty rate always rises in recessions. This may be the first boom with rising poverty (3).
Median household income tells the same tale of woe. Median incomes have declined every year Bush has been in office and are now 3.8% ($1740) below the 1999 level (4). Quite an accomplishment for a president who thinks tax cuts for the wealthy will make us rich.
The superficially nice consumption numbers (15.64% growth in five years) start looking rather dodgy once you look under the covers. Cleary GDP didn’t grow nearly fast enough to pay the piper. Nor did compensation keep pace. Indeed, compensation of employees rose by only 8.3% in the same period. Something had to give. Indeed, the savings rate fell from 2.4% of disposable income in 1Q2001 to -0.5% in 4Q2005 and -1.3% in 1Q2006. Where is the money coming from? Greenspan found the home equity extraction reached $600 billion in 2004 (15)(16) an immodest 7% of disposable income. Are folks using their homes as ATM machines really thrilled with the economy? Does ever rising debt pave the road to heaven? Or would that be hell?
Of course, none of this had to be true. Productivity has risen strongly in recent years (see above). Soaring productivity could have brought large wage and salary gains to ordinary Americans. Productivity alone should have increased incomes by 8% since 2000. No one likes paying $3 for gasoline. However, not too many people would be complaining with fast rising wages. This is not a fantasy. In the 1950s and 60s, wages and median incomes rose right along with the economy. Then we abandoned our borders…
There are other dismal numbers as well (after all economics is the “Dismal Scienceâ€). Household inequality has increased under Bush (5). Inequality also went up under Clinton (â€no interior enforcementâ€). Back when we took our borders seriously it declined, from 1947 to 1968. Inequality only started to soar when mass immigration resumed in the 1970s. Predictably, male median earnings fell from 2002 to 2004 and are now lower than they were back in 1973. The percentage of Americans without health insurance has risen from 14.2% in 2000 to 15.7% in 2004. Employment based health insurance fell from 63.6% in 2000 to 59.8% in 2004 (6). Why bother proving benefits when you have illegals?
If the economic statistics weren’t bad enough for Bush, we have the Iraq debacle. Is Open Borders really responsible for Iraq? At least indirectly, the answer is clearly yes. No we aren’t fighting illegal aliens in Ramadi or Sadr city. However, the connection to Open Borders is far from trivial. The easiest linkage is simply the cast of characters. Almost without exception, the cheerleaders for the Iraq war were Open Borders fanatics. Of course, the WSJ and Senor Bush fall into this category. However, you will also find the likes of Fred Barnes (The Weekly Standard), William Kristol (The Weekly Standard), Ben Wattenberg (AEI), and Michael Barone (US News & World Report) in this group.
By contrast, the strongest advocates of immigration reform were generally skeptical of the Iraq war or overtly opposed (Michelle Malkin being a rare exception). What is the connection? Both the Iraq war and Open Borders were/are based on a panglossian view of human nature. If you think America can tolerate massive legal/illegal third world immigration, then the idea that Iraq could be transformed into a model Middle Eastern nation with human rights, free elections, a free-market economy, peace with Israel, and U.S. bases might make sense. Saner voices recognized both ideas as deeply crazy. Crushing Saddam’s murderous and ultimately dangerous (sanctions were fading) regime might have made sense. Pouring American blood into the desolate soils of the Middle East to nurture “democracy†was, and is, folly.
Is immigration responsible for the other problems weighing on the Bush administration? In many cases, the answer is yes, at least to some extent. Only a president deeply wedded to Open Borders would have threatened his very first veto over the Dubai ports deal. A saner administration would have quashed the deal upfront or authorized it only after deep and credible scrutiny. Gasoline prices? The population of the U.S. has risen by 82 million since the mid-1970s when we built our last oil refinery. Most of the growth has been do to immigration. Runaway population growth doesn’t work with highly limited energy development. Something has to give, prices it would seem. A different president would make these choices clear or simply tell the American people that immigration must be stopped until we have a consensus in favor new pipelines, power plants, refineries, offshore drilling, etc. Hard choices in the Pollyanna world of Senor Bush? They don’t exist.
The immigration sickness infecting U.S. health care has already been mentioned. Of course, as the uninsured population explodes the costs fall on taxpayers and those with private insurance. These burdens make insurance even less affordable, pushing more and more folks into the ranks of those without. Why so-called conservatives would demand an immigration policy than can only end with socialized medicine boggles the mind. Perhaps non compos mentis explains it all.
Did Open Borders bring Katrina to the Big Easy? Actually, No. Even the most ardent restrictionists don’t suggest an enforceable ban on category 5 hurricanes. However, in a normal economy the reconstruction work would be providing well paid job opportunities for poor and working class Americans. Such a thing will never happen with Bush in office.
The Bush administration is clearly infected with some kind of “End of History†globalist worldview where mass migration is both inevitable and desirable. In this wonderful future fantasy, borders will disappear and all of mankind will embrace capitalism, free markets, free trade, democracy, etc. Sadly, this Pollyannaish view of the human condition has led to tragedy abroad, and economic failure at home. What should be clear is that the ideology of Open Borders is directly and indirectly responsible for the woes of the Bush administration. As of this late date there is little they can do about it. After 9-11, Bush had a perfect moment in time, to change course and save his presidency and his country. With malice and forethought he threw it away.
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