Michael J. Fox: ‘I Could Give a Damn About Rush Limbaugh’s Pity…I’m Not A Victim’
Michael J. Fox: ‘I Could Give a Damn About Rush Limbaugh’s Pity…I’m Not A Victim’
Rush Limbaugh has smeared Michael J. Fox, claiming that he exaggerated the symptoms of his Parkinson’s disease in an ad supporting embryonic stem cell research. (He also mocked Fox by impersonating tremors associated with the disease on air.) In an effort to deflect criticism, Limbaugh told Katie Couric the following: “I believe Democrats have a long history of using victims of various things as political spokespeople because they believe they are untouchable, infallible, they are immune from criticism.”
Last night on CBS, Fox fired back, telling Couric, “I could give a damn about Rush Limbaugh’s pity or anyone else’s pity. I’m not a victim.” Watch it:
Transcript:
COURIC: I called Rush Limbaugh and he told me: I believe Democrats have a long history of using victims of various things as political spokespeople because they believe they are untouchable, infallible, they are immune from criticism.
FOX: Well, first thing, he used the word victim. And on another occasion I heard him use the word pitiable. And understand, nobody in this position wants pity. We don’t want pity. I could give a damn about Rush Limbaugh’s pity or anyone else’s pity. I’m not a victim. I’m someone who is in this situation. I think I’m in this situation along with millions of other Americans, and we have a right, if there’s answers out there, to pursue those answers with the full support of our politicians. And so I don’t need anyone’s permission to do that.
COURIC: You have said before this is a bipartisan problem that requires a bipartisan solution.
FOX: No, disease is a nonpartisan problem that requires a bipartisan solution.
COURIC: Would you support a Republican candidate?
FOX: I have. Arlen Specter is my guy. I have campaigned for Arlen Specter. He has been a fantastic champion of stem cell research. In the meantime, separate and apart from my political involvement, I’ve started a foundation that has raised $85 million for research and is the second leading funder of Parkinson’s research after the federal government.
And, you know, it’s not — I’m not a Johnny-come-lately. Nobody plucked me off the apple cart to come and do this. I mean, I believe in this cause. I put a lot of my life and energy into it, and I’m serious about it.
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Republicans are jerks.
October 27th, 2006 at 9:54 amIt is good to Fox standing up to Limbaugh.
October 27th, 2006 at 9:55 amI saw the full interview last night. It was powerful. The candidates against stem-cell research had to be cringing.
October 27th, 2006 at 9:55 amWhen is Rush going to apologize? (and don’t tell me he already has, because his position remains that he stands by what he said.)
October 27th, 2006 at 9:58 amSo, he is on the defense now.
Oohhh, I took too much medication, I am not a victim.
Yes you are. A victim of the left. They used you! If you had too many meds then you should have filmed it another time. But no, you and the producers of the lie wanted drama.
Remember, you said he was against stem cell research. He is NOT! He is against embryonic stem cell research. The one that does not seem to do as much as other stem cell research.
YOU WERE USED
October 27th, 2006 at 10:00 amRush Slimeball?
October 27th, 2006 at 10:02 amRepublicans are anti-science. Period.
If you prefer being terrified and lied to, vote Republican.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:03 amTodays Republican Party, when they aren’t coddling perverts in their own ranks or taking bribes, they are attacking the true enemies of America like widows from 9/11 and courageous young men fighting debilitating illnesses.
-GSD
October 27th, 2006 at 10:04 amWhy should Rush apologize? He was right. Fox lied by omitting the word embryonic and he did have exaggerated motions for dramatic effect. If he did not take his meds or took too many he is portraying himself exaggerated to get sympathy.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:04 amSo, does Rush forget about how the rethugs used Terry Shiavo?
October 27th, 2006 at 10:05 am“I could give a damn about Rush Limbaugh’s pity or anyone else’s pity. I’m not a victim.â€
Probably the single strongest thing he could have said. I believe a majority of Americans, regardless of their opinions on the actual stem cell issue at hand, find Limbaugh’s and Lauer’s comments reprehensible. Rush, put down the shovel and just quit digging.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:05 amThe other night Olbermann showed the video ad of Fox supporting Arlen Specter. Someone needs to point out (again) that Limbaugh is a jackass, a drug addicted, fact-free blowhard.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:05 amIn response to this quote by Rush Limbaugh: I believe Democrats have a long history of using victims of various things as political spokespeople because they believe they are untouchable, infallible, they are immune from criticism.
Two words. Terry Schivao
October 27th, 2006 at 10:06 amAgain, enough of this debating Limbaugh’s behavior. It’s a dead horse. Stop beating it. Yeah, he’s a jerk, it’s already widely known.
The important thing to debate, is the pros and cons of stem cell research itself.
Can’t you guys see that the likes of Limbaugh, use these tactics to get people off of the real issues?
Sigh…
October 27th, 2006 at 10:06 amDear God,
October 27th, 2006 at 10:06 amPlease make Rush Limbaugh die slowly from Parkinson’s disease.
Yours truly,
Justice
Happy guy, make up your mind. Choose your lie.
You can’t have it both ways.
Republicans and their allies in Al Qaeda want you to believe that America is weak. Too weak to defend itself against cave-dwelling losers without giving up our freedom.
They believe America is weak because THEY are weak. They are scared, they are panicked, and they are fools.
This November, show the world that America is NOT weak. Vote out the Republican sissies. It’s time to return America to it’s rightful place in the world as a shining beacon of freedom and hope, not a menacing pile of paranoia and fear as the Republicans want it to be.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:08 amWhat the hell has Rush ever done for anybody but himself?
He is just a big fat self serving gasbag who’s moral compass is a pentagram.
Republicans always try to divert any issue that they cannot successfully debate.
Just like 911, Internet 2, No bid contracts …etc …
Now Bush is even denying he said “Stay the Course” about 200 times.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:08 amI think the Republicans have hired the old Iraqi minister of disinformation to run their spin for them.
Why should Rush apologize? He was right. Fox lied by omitting the word embryonic and he did have exaggerated motions for dramatic effect. If he did not take his meds or took too many he is portraying himself exaggerated to get sympathy.
Comment by Happy+Guy — October 27, 2006 @ 10:04 am
So what? SO F-ING WHAT???
Does that mean that Parkinson Disease isn’t debilitating?
Does that mean that Stem Cell Research doesn’t show promise as a cure?
October 27th, 2006 at 10:09 amthe comments by happy guy show how scared the rethugs are about this issue and about how powerful this issue can be. i mean, just look at these two guys. who would you rather have on your side? michael, who’s showing a lot of class and intestinal fortitude, or rush limbaugh, the twice (or thrice) divorced, oxycontin addicted slimeball?
October 27th, 2006 at 10:09 amLimbaugh should be hung in a public place, if we could find a rope strong enough to lift his putrid pitiful body off the ground.
Limbaugh is a disgrace to hummanity, he is a stain, pond life.
You know when Limbaugh goes home, he locks the doors and starts crying for hours thinking about his wasted life, drinking burbon until he passes out and listening to nancy sinatra. He has a handgun in his hand and puts it to his temple in mock suicide that he will one day commit when the pity of being himself gets just too much…..
You are pitiful Rush Limbaugh, I dont hate you, I feel desperately sorry for you.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:09 amHappy+Guy
Do yourself a favour and quietly hang yourself in your moms basement….
October 27th, 2006 at 10:10 amHappy+Guy………..listen up boy
“Drama” is not the issue. Parkinsons, by nature, it DRAMATIC. If you can’t handle that reality, or if you don’t give a damn about finding a cure for people with that a very DRAMATIC disease, shame on you. Really. Get real my man. Asking for help is using…or being used? Disease is what it is. YOU my dear, cannot –will not—- handle that fact it seems. So……You want Mr. Fox and others who have diseases not to have a voice…to ask for a cure, BECAUSE their shaking or whatever other symptom disturbs you. And it should disturb you. No one is USING anyone. Just because someone exhibits disturbing symptoms does not mean they need to hide in a closet and NOT ASK FOR HELP OR BE SEEN ….If you can’t understand that…….you need a real tune up in the human being department. Period.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:11 amEveryone knows the difference between the research you poor mans white trash Happy+Guy
So as before DO yourself a favour and everyone esle and take your medieval beliefs and shove them up Limbaughs ass up to your neck
Gutless bastard
October 27th, 2006 at 10:16 amAnd another thing to the guy that wants to be happy….Happy Guy.
The reality of the day to day life with this disease is not pretty. Including never knowing how meds will affect you, whether too much or too little. Your argument it shit. Regardless of whether Fox appeared in the ad with no symptoms or “exaggerated” symptoms…….his day to day life includes days when he is shaking and suffering. Use your brain and find your heart…….happy guy,. When will Republicans value reality over trying to win arguments on appearance and fantasy? I’ll tell you when. When they get human and face their crap. But then facing their crap would take the class MJ Fox exhibited. Where oh where will they find such class?
October 27th, 2006 at 10:16 amWhat must it be like to live in such fear — such fear of everything that you support someone pointlessly, baselessly, incorrectly, and most of all cruelly attacking a sick person because that sick person asks for help? What are Limbaugh and all his his fans and supporters so very afraid of that they must lash out like this?
We’re talking voluntary resignation from humanity here.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:18 amTP should really add this quote to the post to clear up this “He took too much medication on purpose!” crap.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:18 am
May god bless Michael J. Fox for his determination in fighting for a cure for himself, but also for the millions of Americans whose voices are ignored. Our world would be a much better place with more people like him. Humanity is a faith we can all benefit from practicing.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:19 amIf anyone watched the above clip and still thinks MJF is faking then I want to ask them, Was Schiavo faking? Did we turn logic on its head and ask if she was moving her eyes, even though she had no brain function, just to fool us into keeping her alive? See how idiot that sentence is? That’s how idiotic and cruel the MJF critics sound.
Go ahead, keep disparaging people with disabilities, diseases, mental problems or even just caring hearts and you thugs will live to rue the truism, What goes around comes around.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:21 amRush isn’t worth any effort, he has been a slim ball for years and will always be. Micheal Fox does have it right. We are all in his same boat. We and/or a loved one will all suffer illness. Those blastocysts that are by-products of in vitro fertilization are destined to become medical waste. They should be put to good use in pursuing the most promising frontier in medical research.
The trolls who show a complete lack of humanity will always be around. They are the real losers and we should ignore them. Do something positive instead. Vote, contribute time or money and write your representatives.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:23 amHey Rush, what disease have you raised $85 million for? Drug addiction? Sorry, but you don’t have the moral high ground on this one, so you’d be best to issue a real apology and then start blathering about something else.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:24 amHappy+Guy
I agree with the others on the thread: you and the wing nuts jackass that agree on the shit coming out someone like Rush Limbaugh are really sorry excuses for a person… To attack someone as MJF who had the guts to put himself on the front line of such a delicate issue really shows how hollow and empty the right has become under the Kingdom of George W the second…
Truly pathetic and sad.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:25 am#14 – Anything that erodes the repub base and shows their leaders for the heartless parasites that they are is a worthy cause in my mind. The majority of Americans couldn’t care less about the very real issues of the destruction of America and the world by the greedy powers that be. But they see this and the recognize this. It’s a knife that we can use to cut the cancer of Republican self-centeredness from power. Once that’s done and when saner heads are in charge, then the real work can begin.
As Jim Hightower said, you can’t clean the stream until you get the pigs out of it.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:27 amThe trolls who show a complete lack of humanity will always be around. They are the real losers and we should ignore them. Do something positive instead. Vote, contribute time or money and write your representatives.
Comment by Fools+in+the+GOP —
I agree.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:28 amVolunteering at a nursing home, where many people with deteriorating conditions such as MS, Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s end up, just one day, might change their tune.
Michael J. Fox had raised $85 million to help cure Parkinson’s.
Rush has lied 85 million times to the American people.
Michael’s mission is to unite Americans in the cause of disease research.
Rush’s mission is to divide Americans & institute a 1 party system.
Michael’s work has made countless people laugh & cry.
Rush’s work has mad coutnless people scared & untrusting.
Michael is an outstanding American.
Rush is a steaming pile of his own bullshit.
When we take over after the election, how about a lawsuit, finally charging Limpballs with lies, slander, manipulating truths, et al?
October 27th, 2006 at 10:30 am#16 What the heck did that have to do with anything?
#18 I never said stem cell research did not show promises. I simply point out the fact that embryonic stem cell research shows the least promises. The left loves to say the right is against stem cell research and that is a lie. Big F-ing LIE. They are against Embryonic Stem Cell research. So every time you leave out that one key word you are lying. I personally don’t care. If embryonic show promises then I say go for it! I just point out the way you people twist the truth like good little Democratic soldiers towing the party line and speaking the talking pints.
#21 Good job. I love it when you talk like that. Shows you are unarmed in a battle of wits.
To the rest, I don’t care about Rush. Sometimes he speaks the truth and sometimes he is a blow-hard. You people hate him because he speaks his mind. It does not match your thoughts and he gets the highest ratings. (Unlike AAR) So of course you want to silence him because the only free speech the libs believe in is their own.
I win – have a good weekend – ROTFL
October 27th, 2006 at 10:30 amHappy+Guy,
I really, truly hope you don’t get this disease. But I will say this: nothing cures asshat wingnutttiness like finding out what it’s like to be on the receiving end of your stupidity. As it is, you are a detriment to humanity, and worse than worthless.
You don’t have 1/10th the courage Fox has, and my bet is, if you ever DID come down with something like Parkinsons, you’d be begging for death very, very quickly.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:30 amIsn’t Rush Limbaugh a drug addict? Yes, yes he is.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:31 amI can’t think of anything that so clearly demonstrates the lies and hypocrisy of Republican “values” than this assault upon Michael J. Fox.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:31 am“Compassionate conservatism” just went out the window–if, indeed, it ever existed. The “party of moral values”? I can only say that even Hitler had some kind of moral values–they just weren’t the kind of values embraced by most of the civilized world. The party of “family values”? Well–if they’re referring to the “families” of the Godfather, yes.
my hat is off to michael j. fox… there is absolutely NOTHING he could have said that would make me respect him any more than this… i get goose bumps whenever someone’s inner character shines forth, and, boy, is it ever shining for michael j. fox…
And, yes, I DO take it personally
October 27th, 2006 at 10:33 amI bet MJF could still kick Lush RimJaubghs ass, and prolly JMH’s as well, with or without medication.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:34 amFools,
You’re right. And actually, I was wrong: Happy+Guy isn’t “worse than worthless”. He’s valuable in one way: showing the vast majority of American voters exactly what modern conservatism is and stands for. More performances like this, and wingnut loons won’t be able to win offices for dogcatcher.
They never learn. You’d think after Schiavo they’d have figured out that most people don’t share their pathological tendencies and have kept their utter moral bankruptcy to themselves. But they just can’t.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:34 amRush is an entertainer and nothing more. He found a niche and he exploits it. Mr. Fox is showing true strength and thanks to Rush the complexities of Parkinsons is center stage.
Rush is the brain food for someone like Happy Guy and Happy Guy, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:35 amHappy+Guy…
“I win – have a good weekend – ROTFL”
I strongly suspect we’ll find out one way or another in about two weeks. But I sure wouldn’t put any money on your assertion.
Heartless pricks like yourself are in a tiny minority in this country, yet for years you were able to fool enough people into believing you were something other than you were to make political gains. Over the last couple of years you felt you no longer needed to do that and had a “coming out” party. And surprise: most people see you for the deeply troubled people that you are.
Enjoy your long decline.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:37 amWow, look at the flood of twisted crap coming in. I have never said anything against Mr. Fox, his disease or anyone unfortunate enough to have to experience it themselves or through a loved on. I said he was used or don’t you see that or the difference?
I also wish you would see the whole interview and not just the edited piece this website chose to show. This site if far left slanted and never presents anything that would show truth or the other side of an issue.
Until you see the whole piece you are left leaning and factless as usual.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:37 amRush is really just a bad cartoon. His mockery is somewhere between Family Guy and SouthPark. His authentic replication of groin kick politics by challenging the Left’s emotional sympathies with reckless ridicule stresses how much HE really needs the attention. It’s by no mistake that Mr. Fox went on Katie Couric’s show to blast his remoteness. Rush had to do a brutal interpretation of a Parkinson’s disease victim to get himself on the medium he so despises. He is addicted to himself, unfortunately….
October 27th, 2006 at 10:40 amYes you are. A victim of the left. They used you! If you had too many meds then you should have filmed it another time. But no, you and the producers of the lie wanted drama.
Um, happyguy, do you remember Terri Schiavo? She was used because she did not choose to be a punching bag for the BS “culture of life” freak show. There was no lie, Fox has Parkinson’s. Sometimes he has symptoms, sometimes he doesn’t. Why should he manipulate his symptoms so as to not show the effects of this horrific disease? So you aren’t uncomfortable with the fact that we are ignoring science and the potential of stem cell research in favor of a bunch of fundamentalist religious people who have no idea what stem cell research really is? They’re the ones being used, pal, because they have been fed misinfomation in order to rally them to vote for Republicans.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:41 amI think Rush Limbaugh has unwittingly exposed the depth of the Republicans’ lack of intelligence, compassion and class. I don’t want the Democrats ever to go to the depths that the GOP is trawling with their hateful speech and ads. Democratic candidates are doing exactly what they should be, which is providing positive attributes and reasons to voters to get them elected.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:41 amI thought youd gone Happy Gap…are you sure you know what your doing wiht the family brain cell?
And youkeep coming back?
How many new assholes do you want ripped?
‘FActless as usual’ I accept your offer of surrender and say night night again…..
October 27th, 2006 at 10:41 amthat is aunless you want even more holes for your lifestyle….
Hey little katie actually gave Fox some air time to dispute her buddy rush. Any progressive or anti-war folks been on her free speech segment yet?
October 27th, 2006 at 10:42 amI am a republican but I am so ashamed of what this Big fat bully Rush said ….that made me change my mind whom to vote now….sorry fellow Republicans… Hello democrats!
October 27th, 2006 at 10:42 amHey Happy+guy,
October 27th, 2006 at 10:45 amI guess MJF is faking his symptoms when he is talking to Katie Couric as well ? You know happy+guy, I think MJF does not even have Parkinson’s! I think this is an elaborate plot by MJF to bring down the govt of you beloved king George! But one thing is absolutely true: You are a sad+sad+sad+pathetic piece of shit.
Happy+Guy
The only twisted crap is the one coming out from your dead-brain..
“So, he is on the defense now.
Oohhh, I took too much medication, I am not a victim.”
Comment by Happy+Guy — October 27, 2006 @ 10:00 am
So mocking a person in his condition only because you do not have the intellectual capacity understand or even grasp his drama is perfectly fine by your standards…
As I have said you are really a pathetic person
October 27th, 2006 at 10:45 amCrappy Guy,
October 27th, 2006 at 10:46 amWas he being used by Spectre, too?
Republicans, like the shithead Rush Limpballs, just don’t like having a face put to the issue. Why? Because it is effective (and fair). People in this country today do not necessarily understand, or conceptualize, the issue until they actually see someone who is affected by the issue. It brings the issue home, so to speak. Especially on something like this, which does hit hard on “the good Christian or Jew or Muslim or Atheist” in all of us. It exposes the side of the debate the GOP wishes to hide–that segment of the population that the GOP policies actually affect. You know, the truth. Seeing that the GOP tries to hide the actual truth in darn near every policy they push, these ads are extremely effective as they shine a very bright light on the facts behind the policy. And once the truth is out there, the GOP will lose. Happens every time.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:48 amhow does one come up with the logic to claim that mjfox is being “used”?
that’s a rhetorical question – i understand there is no logic in wingnuttia…
but it is evident that fox is “using” himself and his stature and his smarts to do what he can to help EVERYBODY who could benefit from this research… and that makes him a model citizen and human being.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:48 am…
I wonder if Max Cleland fakes his symptoms on TV too /sarcasm off
October 27th, 2006 at 10:48 amHappy Guy loves abuse it makes him feel that his pathetic life is worth it….sad self deceiving bastard…oh did I mention gutless?
Keeps coming bakc for more, How monay asses can you get ripped and still walk without saddle legs?
October 27th, 2006 at 10:49 amWelcome Joan. Here you will find out that Rush is not the only bully from the right.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:49 amWhat the hell is it with these people complaining about how “you shouldn’t use the disabled or widows or whoever because then they’re beyond criticizm” (apparently Rush and Coulter got the same memo)? Is it because that’s how the fight? They can’t debate the issues so they attack the messenger? Michael J. Fox is living the REALITY of Parkinson’s disease every day! Why shouldn’t he show the worst of it? And unfortunately, it’s only going to get worse for him. I can’t believe how mean and petty the “right” is…then again, I can, which is why I left the Republican party in 1999.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:50 amAnd to think there is a cure for ignorance….an open mind. Rush doesn’t have one and he will remain in ignorance. Perhaps that is why he couldn’t hack his first year of college and dropped out. The professors were obviously telling him thing that “he knows to be not true” to quote the draft dodging, drug addled gasbag. Happy Guy, the truth will set you free.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:52 amYOU WERE USED
Comment by Happy+Guy — October 27, 2006 @ 10:00 am
Projecting again Happy Guy?
October 27th, 2006 at 10:53 amVincennes, The GOP are the ultimate political opportunists. Exploit for the moment and don’t ever the faithful behind the curtain.(ANYWAY: Now that I think of it poor Rush has me thinking maybe he’s more like Plankton, from SpongeBob. Every time I see a clip of His Remoteness siting there in his little room with no windows,slathering into his golden ..mike, he just looks like he’s in a little box and just this booming image of the truth. Just like Plankton, he’s always been different and smart but he just can’t have what he want’s. TV is the formula to the Krabby Patty for Rush. Could he even buy a TV show?You don’t have to pay for the best of his 24/7 footage.He just does insensitive things to get attention. My mom always said we could do anything we wanted to as long as we never ended up on the evening news. I guess this is all the TV coverage he can get these days. Poor Rush.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:54 amI wonder if Max Cleland fakes his symptoms on TV too /sarcasm off
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — October 27, 2006 @ 10:48 am
And Tammy Duckworth, too!!!
October 27th, 2006 at 10:56 amNov. 8, 2006: Happy Guy becomes Crying Guy.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:57 am“And to think there is a cure for ignorance….an open mind. Rush doesn’t have one and he will remain in ignorance.”
Although that may be the case, I think the bigger issue is the gravy train Rush rides. He fears that gravy train drying up, so he is forced to take the positions he does. It is all about him and his greed.
Although I do not think he need fear about the gravy train drying up. There will always be lots and lots of suckers/intentionally ignorants in this country willing to soak up his bile.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:57 amI wonder who Jesus would embrace?
Truth be told he would embrace both Rush and MJF though as we have witnessed MJF has already been embraced as he walks the talk with courage and Grace.
Rush needs more hugs from Jesus and less judgement of his fellow man.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:58 amwhich is why I left the Republican party in 1999.
Comment by KikiD
Same here… I never even considered voting democrat (because I associated them with the south) until I saw the religious witch hunt against Clinton. So when they put some religious goof ball up for the LEADER of the USA in 2000 I switched right then and there and will ONLY consider the republicans again when they give the religious facists (American taliban) the boot.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:02 amPeople are losing sight of the multiple issues here. Yes, Fox has a crippling disease to which there is no currently known cure. Stem cell research is alive and well, EMBRYONIC stem cell research is what ISN’T!
Meds. no meds, bah. When he stood up there and stumped for a canditate, he opened himself up for discussion. Do I agree with what is going on, no. Is it going to happen no matter who, what, where, why, how, when? Yes.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:03 amI mean really, Schiavo wasn’t last week, and people are still bitching about that. Politicians are the same around the world. Most of them care about themselves and what they can get.
Be nice to the Trolls people!!!! See, Republicans must be treated the same as every other mentally handicapped member of our society. We must pity them and work to make their sad lives better for the good of all. We can start by understanding that they are just incomplete human beings and have not fully developed the mental, emotional and spiritual components of a complete human psyche found in all Democratic people. Really, they are just like 4 year olds. It’s more akin to evolution in action as Republicans are on a different evolutionary branch of human beings and are just not as advanced as the rest of us. Much like the Neanderthal…
(I kid, I kid … only a little humor on a Friday!)
October 27th, 2006 at 11:04 amhe opened himself up for discussion
Comment by Douglas+G.
What should have been opened for discussion by Fox is what grounds the religious nuts have to stand on in denying ANY science from ANY study what so ever? Either they show us all exactly HOW this science is like Nazis sticking live adults into -10 degree water until they die just to see what the human body does… OR we have the right to continue to assume that the religious nuts see all science as “Frankentein” scarey magic…
October 27th, 2006 at 11:07 amRush mimicking Fox.
A perfect emblem of who they are.
Uncaring. Immature. Thoughtless. Bastards.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:09 amHappy guy, typical declare victory when there is none and runaway. Sounds like Bush.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:09 amggibson said, ” never even considered voting democrat (because I associated them with the south) until I saw the religious witch hunt against Clinton.”
OMG! Witch hunt? the man lied under oath! The only sitting president to have been found guilty of PERJURY. The only sitting President to have ever been DISBARRED! There was no witch hunt that he himself didn’t invite.
He lied under oath to a federal judge.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:10 amI watched this last night and was heartbroken to see how much Fox’s condition has worsened. Though it’s worth pointing out that others who are afflicted with Parkinson’s tend to have much worse cases with symptoms that are much more pronounced over a shorter period of time. Blessing or curse, at least Fox has the mental acuity to speak on behalf of those who support stem cell research, embryonic or otherwise.
This group of people lost a champion of the debate in Christopher Reeves. His death really hurt their cause and put the debate on the backburner. Now that Fox has spoken out, those who support the research have a new very recognizable voice in the public arena and that scares those who oppose it to death – so they attack him. It’s a debate that the opposition knows they’re losing so they’re pulling out all the stops to make Fox look like a pitchman and a hypocrite, never once realizing that they’ve mastered that particular mental state some time ago when they were for wiping out the population of Iraq yet opposed to abortion because “God loves all life”.
And ignore Happy+Guy. It’s quite clear that his entire existence revolves around trolling liberal boards so as to call attention to himself. Acknowledging him only gives him cause to repeat his self-flagellating behavior.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:10 am#72
@GOOSE1 – LOL!!!!
His own little ‘Mission Accomplished banner’ hey?!?!?!?LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 27th, 2006 at 11:13 amDidn’t anyone read the last ‘Think Fast’??
Fox told CBS’s Katie Couric, adding that his jumpy condition as he spoke to her reflected “a dearth of medication — not by design. I just take it, and it kicks in when it kicks in.â€
Enough said. Rush lied, or he’s an idiot, probably both, and you can’t reason with Rush supporters with the truth, because if Rush didn’t say it, it must not be true. It doesn’t take 70+ comments to say that Rush is an idiot and doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Politics, like shit (and smelling just as wonderful) happens. Deal with it.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:15 amDouglas, do you know anything about the difference between adult and embryonic stem cell research?
Politicians are the same around the world. Most of them care about themselves and what they can get
No disagreement there.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:15 amHappy Guy
Every time I read one of your posts I think of my six year old daughter telling my four year old daughter “I win!”
Keep posting. You’re doing a great job showing what ignorant jerks the dittoheads are.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:17 amNobody is immune from criticism, not even Rush Limpballs, but Limpdick’s criticism of Fox was that he was shaking too much!! That is sadistic!
October 27th, 2006 at 11:18 am#73Duglyass
No one died when clinton lied sweetheart….goodnight ladies
October 27th, 2006 at 11:18 amSo I guess it doesnt count when Republicans use 9/11 victims for political gain
October 27th, 2006 at 11:19 am@ whoever wants a rumble
If Bush was a Democrat President he’d be swinging from the rafters of the Whitehouse by now….for his utter incompetence….There’d have been a Republican revolution alright….You goodolboys would have a flaming cross on the whitehouse lawn
October 27th, 2006 at 11:21 amSeems like the Reality-Challenged Republicans are right at home making fun of the blind, the poor, and people with severe diseases.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:24 amDouglas+G.
Do you really want to discuss lies coming out from a sitting president? What about young George W the second ?
Where shall we start ? Iraq ? Abu Graib ? Secret CIA prison in Europe? Torture ? Abramoff ? I mean there are so many possibilities…
Really you right wing people are really getting a bit ridiculous…
October 27th, 2006 at 11:28 amHe lied under oath to a federal judge.
Comment by Douglas+G. — October 27, 2006 @ 11:10 am
such a stoopid thing to say…
October 27th, 2006 at 11:30 ambet you’re real glad dumbya has never testified under oath…
especially since the only oath he took, he has failed miserably at, twice…
and i bet he wished his only transgression was a blow job…
and that will probably come out too…
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#9 Hopeless Guy
Fox lied by omitting the word embryonic and he did have exaggerated motions for dramatic effect.
Not using the word “embryonic” every time is not a lie, but saying he exaggerated his motions certainly is. Lying Guy.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:31 am“I believe Democrats have a long history of using victims of various things as political spokespeople because they believe they are untouchable, infallible, they are immune from criticism.â€
That’s exactly what Ann Coulter said about the 9/11 widows. They HATE it when we have living proof that their policies don’t work and hurt Americans.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:36 am.
just discovered an interesting absence in this thread…
October 27th, 2006 at 11:40 amjmh made some customary remarks about mjfox in the FAST thread, but nothing here… hmmm… i think that jmh is one happy guy…
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“I called Rush Limbaugh and he told me: I believe Democrats have a long history of using victims of various things as political spokespeople because they believe they are untouchable, infallible, they are immune from criticism.”
What was Rush’s take on the Schiavo situation? I am sure he was terribly upset with Republicans using her as political spokesperson.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:47 amMichael J. Fox has a lot of class. What more needs to be said?
October 27th, 2006 at 12:09 pmHere’s what “Happy+Guy” should know: (1) Fox isn’t being used. He is completely aware of what he is doing: some folks support research he believes in, some don’t… He then supports and fights to get more folks that think like he does. That is called democracy.
(2) and more importantly, what no one anywhere is saying anywhere, when folks with Parkinson’s get tired or stressed the tremors can get much worse. he isn’t faking.
I HAVE to assume you have never had to watch a loved one go through this. My grandmother had to wear weights on her arms to prevent her involuntary movements and even they didn’t slow her much. I can only hope you never have to watch this.
October 27th, 2006 at 12:22 pmRepublicans are the party of hate. David Duke, Pat Buchanan, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Rush Limbaugh to mention just a few. It’s amazing how many of these haters and bashers have found safe haven under the GOP cloak of religion, self-righteousness, and the original intent of the founding fathers. Even their patron saint Ronald Reagan wouldn’t care where the stem cells if it meant a cure for his Alzheimers. The truth is, Rush Limbaugh is really a big phony and just needs to get his ratings up. It’s just a shame that he does it at the expense of the poor ( the per as he says) , the children (chilrun as he says) and those afflicted by a disease. I’m sick that I even have to write this.
October 27th, 2006 at 12:22 pmIf you haven’t seen it yet, check out Keith Obermann – he RIPS through Limbaugh & gets right to the point of the matter – the republicans attack those who are actually affected by these issues and posses the bravery to bring them into the political arena:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/25/olbermann-gives-us-the-visual-to-limbaughs-attack-on-michael-j-fox/
That the republican party has stooped this low is a hallmark sign that the party ideology is entirely DEAD in all but the most extreme corners of society. It is a party of radical religious fundamentalists, rich corporate handlers, neocon extremists. Just look at the people posting in support of them on this very site. They swing widely from being completely immoral to being unequivacally anti-constition to being RNC parrots. Normal people at home who watch this issue unfold will be blown away at just how *low* the Republicans have gone, both as individuals and as a party – and they will cringe at the very thought of being associated in any way with these types of people.
I watched the whole interview – and its POWERFUL. Think about what type of person would attack a parkinsons victim for political leverage. That is the type of person that would throw his own grandmother in front a bus for insurance money.
October 27th, 2006 at 12:22 pmIf “W” lies under oath to a federal judge, they should hang him out to dry too. I am not singling out Clinton. I am stateing a fact. Politicians lie on a daily basis. It’s digusting, but true.
Lying to a Federal judge however is not the same, no matter how much filth you spew in my direction.
October 27th, 2006 at 12:27 pmWhooee! Howcum the numbnutses ain’t dragged out the fact that Michael J. is a Canajun? That’s the sorta dirt the Repugnacans like t’ use. Here in Canadee, by the bye, stem cell research is legal. Anybuddy out there with sum bigass research funds burnin’ a hole in their pocket might wanna look inta fundin’ sum Canajun studies. My ol’ Grannie had the Parkinson’s an’ now my good friend has it an’ he only jest turned 50. It ain’t no joke an’ my hat’s off t’ Alex P. Keaton. I’d like t’ offer up a coupla steamin’ hot, JimBobby-flavoured knuckle samwitches t’ Rush an’ his crew o’ compassionate conmen.
Yores trooly,
October 27th, 2006 at 12:28 pmJimBobby
“they’re all for wiping out the population of Iraq yet opposed to abortion because “God loves all lifeâ€.
Republicans they name is HYPOCRITE.
October 27th, 2006 at 12:30 pmOMG! Witch hunt? the man lied under oath! The only sitting president to have been found guilty of PERJURY. The only sitting President to have ever been DISBARRED! There was no witch hunt that he himself didn’t invite.
He lied under oath to a federal judge.
Comment by Douglas+G.
About a consensual affair.
No witch hunt that he didn’t invite? The Arkansas Project was started long before Whitewater was ever an issue. If you are going to shill, at least do it convincingly.
October 27th, 2006 at 12:37 pmI guess all those cancer victims are exaggerating their symptoms by being dead as well, right Happy+Guy?
October 27th, 2006 at 12:38 pmThink about it. If the Republicans can attack THESE victims (cindy sheenan, Michael J. Fox, etc.) when they speak out against issues that have affected them..what makes you think the republicans will show ANY CONCERN for any normal american? If they feel its perfectly legitimate to attack the mothers of dead soilders and mock Parkinsons victims who are literally shacking in their seats…..then do you or any normal person stand a chance?
NO.
AND THIS IS THE MESSAGE AMERICANS ARE RECEIVING.
October 27th, 2006 at 12:41 pmWow, yeah, lying to a FEDERAL judge should be punishable by say, oh, 600,000 or so deaths.
October 27th, 2006 at 12:54 pm“Happy Guy”, you have got to be the lowest excuse for a human being on these boards. You’re stupid, uninformed, stubborn and just plain ugly. Michael J. Fox is a courageous and beautiful person. You are the opposite. The world would be a lot better place without people like you.
October 27th, 2006 at 12:54 pmDouglas G, you’re just an ugly dumbass. Clinton was never convicted of perjury. You don’t even know the definition of perjury, you f*ckin idiot!
October 27th, 2006 at 12:56 pmSo if you’re a Rethugnican,
you still can’t criticize Israel. Because Israel was a victim. So Israel can treat the Palestinians barbarically, cluster bomb their neighbors and continue usurping/destroying their property.
But you can criticize/attack people who have been stricken with debilitating diseases who lobby their “elected” representatives and campaign for political support for medical solutions to their problems.
*scratches head*
And you can defend your attack of them because they are “victims”\
Had enough?
October 27th, 2006 at 1:02 pmAnybody that hasn’t known anyone or has not been personally affected by this disease needs to shut the hell up. I’m so sick of all this personally. Firstly, the drugs don’t stop the shaking, as a matter of fact some drugs increase it. You have your good days and your bad days. More bad days then good. I’m so sick of hearing Fox was used…no the hell he was not. The thing about EMBRYONIC STEM CELL research is that it can find cures for not just Parkinsons but all sorts of Cancers, ALS, Diabetes. Diseases that have no damn cures. Anyone that has the desire to be around for their children shouldn’t disagree to something like this. My grandfather lost his life to Parkinsons, he spent the last 10 years of his life battling this disease. In the end it only got worse. I was surprised to see Michael J Fox still being able to speak as well as he does seeing how long he has been affected by this disease. My Grandfather couldn’t even swallow his own food after being affected for 5 years. Rush needs to take another Oxycotin and shut the hell up. He should be the last person to talk about anybody and their disease.
October 27th, 2006 at 1:03 pmfolks ignore the paid detractors. They are here to stir up shit get people angry and evoke comments and vitriole. They make no meaningful contribution to any of these discussions and GUESS WHAT?
If you ignore them, that is, don’t respond to them…
they go away!
Voila
October 27th, 2006 at 1:09 pmGood for MJF! I hope the silver lining in all of this is that his Parkinson’s Foundation receives a bunch of donations due to all of this flap. In fact, I am going to go make a donation right now and I urge all of you to do the same. Maybe that will teach Mr. Rx Addict Limbaugh to shut his trap!
October 27th, 2006 at 1:20 pmBluedoggie,
Contrary to a popular public misconception, Clinton was successfully impeached (that is, the House did successfully send him to be tried by the Senate). He was not, however, successfully convicted of any of the charges (which is why he was not removed from office), nor was he given any penalty (beyond the censure of the House of Representatives).
The perjury allegations provoked the Arkansas Supreme Court to suspend Clinton’s law license in April 2000. Clinton agreed to the 5-year suspension and to pay a $25,000 fine on January 19, 2001. The following October, the U.S. Supreme Court once again suspended Clinton’s law license and gave him 40 days to convince them that he should not be disbarred permanently. Clinton surrendered his law license in response to these actions. Clinton has since made a living as an author and speaker.
(btw, the plea of nolo contendre means that a person has enough information to be convicted, and agrees to be punished without a finding of guilty) The same is inferred when one agrees to a punishment, though a finding of guilty is not legally entered.)
October 27th, 2006 at 1:26 pmI guess Ronald Reagan probably faked his death and Alzheimer’s so that Nancy could promote embryonic stem cell research as well. Tools.
***sarcasm off*** (I remembered!)
October 27th, 2006 at 1:33 pmIt should be standard policy for any person who agrees to be interviewed about policy or thoughts on current events to ask the interviewer if they have studied the subject before the interview. This would greatly reduce instances where the interviewer gets a free pass to ask nonsensical questions. I can’t tell you how many times I have seen Couric interview someone when she clearly had no knowledge of the subject other than what her producer or assistant dropped in front of her a few minutes beforehand. And, of course, she is not the only “journalist” guilty of that.
October 27th, 2006 at 1:33 pmStong words coming from a pill popper . . . maybe if fox hung out with limbaugh he would remember to take his pills.
October 27th, 2006 at 1:35 pmWould you put the video on YouTube? It needs more exposure and linking-to.
October 27th, 2006 at 1:37 pmWhat the world does not need right now are more babies. They should be harvested for the things real people need: stem cells, tears, and their souls. F’ them, embryonic, 1st trimester, 2nd trimester, who cares? They are *parasites* until they are ready to be born, and the only thing they are good for then are their souls. Screw Rush, that fat piece of shit has probably mistakenly eaten a few embryos and fetuses himself.
October 27th, 2006 at 1:44 pmI give Michael J. Fox a huge amount of credit for speaking out not just to refute Limbaugh’s sickening comments, but to serve as a stark visual reminder of what the stem cell debate is all about: a choice between fighting some of the most horrible diseases that afflict mankind, or bending reality to fit religious fantasy.
Read: “The farce known as America’s immigration debate“
October 27th, 2006 at 1:44 pmI would suspect, too, that Fox doesn’t give a damn about Matt Lauer, either.
October 27th, 2006 at 1:45 pmFox has become a pawn, so sad.
October 27th, 2006 at 1:47 pmPlato….don’t think for one minute Fox did not see this possibility. What is sad is his disease and the fact that there are people like Rush Limbaugh. But Fox has enough love around him and class to make it where he has to go….not that it will be easy. He is more powerful than his shaking suggests. He is no pawn, regardless of what Rush or anyone else may do or say. He is calling the shots. This man is his own man. They are rare indeed, men/women like him.
October 27th, 2006 at 1:51 pmDouglas G, you still haven’t even demonstrated that you know the legal definition of perjury. You posted that Clinton was convicted of perjury. He wasn’t.
And your little bs about nolo contendre is irrelevant. Jackasses like you only bring it up with Clinton. How about the Republican party of Florida. It settled that way out of court with the NAACP about the question of whether or not Florida illegally barred black voters from voting. So by your thinking, the Republicans of Florida have admitted that they stole the election in 2000 for Bush.
October 27th, 2006 at 1:54 pmlol: “They should be harvested for the things real people need: stem cells, tears, and their souls. F’ them, embryonic, 1st trimester, 2nd trimester, who cares?”
Nobody is talking about “harvesting” babies you stupid f*ck! Take your ugly strawman argument a stuff it up your ass.
October 27th, 2006 at 1:57 pmThe U.S. Supreme Court has never disbarred a former president, said presidential historian and author Stanley Kutler, emeritus professor of history and law at University of Wisconsin-Madison.
Richard Nixon — disbarred from the New York bar in 1976, two years after he resigned the presidency — resigned from the U.S. Supreme Court bar before any action was taken, said Kutler, who is perhaps best known for his 1997 book, “Abuse of Power: The New Nixon Tapes.”
Nixon, who argued one case before the Supreme Court before becoming president, also resigned from the California bar.
October 27th, 2006 at 2:00 pm
I am an ovarian cancer survivor and 10-year Parkinson’s Disease prisoner (FORMER Republican as of 2000) whose hair is on fire over Limbaugh’s stupid act. Fox’s movements are dyskinesias, side effects of being on PD meds without which he could not move or talk at all. His tremors on Couric’s show look like me before my 2 DBS brain surgeries (for which I had to be awake) to control my tremors. I can barely walk or talk because the meds don’t help me. We Parkies are all different with respect to progression of the disease and reaction to meds. Eventually we turn to stone. Someone should stone Rush. I’d be happy to “shill” for the Dems, but I’m a nobody.
October 27th, 2006 at 2:04 pm[...] “Well, first thing, he used the word victim. And on another occasion I heard him use the word pitiable. And understand, nobody in this position wants pity. We don’t want pity. I could give a damn about Rush Limbaugh’s pity or anyone else’s pity. I’m not a victim. I’m someone who is in this situation. I think I’m in this situation along with millions…â€read more | digg story [...]
October 27th, 2006 at 2:04 pm>>OMG! Witch hunt? the man lied under oath! The only sitting president >>to have been found guilty of PERJURY. The only sitting President to >>have ever been DISBARRED! There was no witch hunt that he himself >>didn’t invite.
Wow, the guy was DISBARRED. At least he lied about something as simple as a blowjob. How many lives did the lie cost? Zero. Unless some poor geezer got a heartattack from the news :P
Go Michael! Fight for the posibillity of a cure for your illness.
Here’s a question, who would you rather have as president, Michael J. Fox Or Rush Limbaugh……………
I’m glad and sad I don’t live in the US. Glad because you’ve got a pretty shitty system of goverment, sad because everything you do has such an impact on the rest of the world and I would like to have that one vote.
October 27th, 2006 at 2:06 pmwell did Arlen use him when he testified in front of a Senate committee on Capitol Hill? :
Actor Michael J. Fox Advocates Stem-Cell Research Before Senate Committee
Aired September 14, 2000 – 11:24 a.m. ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Michael J. Fox, now, testifying in front of a Senate committee on Capitol Hill. The issue, here, is stem-cell research.
(JOINED IN PROGRESS)
SEN. ARLEN SPECTER (R), PENNSYLVANIA: … Emmy Award for best actor in a comedy series for his work in “Spin City.” He was diagnosed with Parkinson’s in 1991 at the age of 30, and since announcing his retirement from “Spin City,” he’s been devoting his time to the Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson’s Research.
And I might comment that he even came to the Republican convention in Philadelphia.
MICHAEL J. FOX, FOUNDATION FOR PARKINSON’S RESEARCH: I was in Los Angeles as well, sir.
(LAUGHTER)
SPECTER: Well, when you — when Senator Harkin mentions that you hit them both — I wasn’t at the other one. Which was the other one, did you say?
(LAUGHTER)
FOX: Actually, it’s a nonpartisan problem that will take a bipartisan solution.
SPECTER: Well, we are bipartisan here, as the Democrat represent — Republican representation on the podium suggests.
But you have done spectacular work and, from time to time, questions are raised about celebrities appearing at congressional hearings. In fact, it’s even more that questions, there’s some pretty severe criticism about it; but we make no apologies because we need public awareness of issues like stem cells, which could cure Parkinson’s, or Amytropic Lateral Sclerosis, or Alzheimer’s.
And when public attention is focused on Michael J. Fox because the American people know you, Michael, it is a great use of your talent and celebrity status to let people know what’s going on and get public support for this kind of a measure. So we thank you for your time and your efforts, and we know how debilitating the illness is, and we’re just very hopeful that soon — we have the testimony from the scientists this morning, in two to three years, they’ll be ready for use with people, and that you’ll be back on ABC TV, I don’t want to say that to the derogation of the other networks, which are here, but back — well you choose where you go back. We just want you back.
FOX: I’ll be open to all offers.
SPECTER: The floor is yours, Mr. Fox.
October 27th, 2006 at 2:07 pm
well did Arlen use him when he testified in front of a Senate committee on Capitol Hill? :
Actor Michael J. Fox Advocates Stem-Cell Research Before Senate Committee
Aired September 14, 2000 – 11:24 a.m. ET
FOX: Actually, it’s a nonpartisan problem that will take a bipartisan solution.
SPECTER: Well, we are bipartisan here, as the Democrat represent — Republican representation on the podium suggests.
But you have done spectacular work and, from time to time, questions are raised about celebrities appearing at congressional hearings. In fact, it’s even more that questions, there’s some pretty severe criticism about it; but we make no apologies because we need public awareness of issues like stem cells, which could cure Parkinson’s, or Amytropic Lateral Sclerosis, or Alzheimer’s.
And when public attention is focused on Michael J. Fox because the American people know you, Michael, it is a great use of your talent and celebrity status to let people know what’s going on and get public support for this kind of a measure. So we thank you for your time and your efforts, and we know how debilitating the illness is, and we’re just very hopeful that soon — we have the testimony from the scientists this morning, in two to three years, they’ll be ready for use with people, and that you’ll be back on ABC TV, I don’t want to say that to the derogation of the other networks, which are here, but back — well you choose where you go back. We just want you back.
FOX: I’ll be open to all offers.
SPECTER: The floor is yours, Mr. Fox.
October 27th, 2006 at 2:09 pm
Rayilin Brown, you are definitely a SOMEBODY! I’m very sorry for your challenging condition and thank you so much for your contribution here.
October 27th, 2006 at 2:11 pmsorry for the double post..
here is the link to read the entire article:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0009/14/se.03.html
October 27th, 2006 at 2:11 pm
Ask yourself WHY the republicans are against stem cell research. Because they use discarded embroyos? NO. In fact the embroyos they propose to use are actually currently classifed as MEDICAL WASTE. In fact, invistro fertilization results in some embroyos being discarded – so do they now oppose invistro fertilization? NO.
Why the republicans opposed to stem cell research? Because their corporate handlers in the billion-dollar health care industries oppose it. Stem cells DO NOT offer treatment for symptoms but rather CURES FOR DISEASES. This runs completely counter to the health care industry which makes profit by the repeated treatment of symptoms. Imagine CANCER, PARKINSONS, AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE being PERMANENTLY CURABLE. The republicans oppose stem cell research because its not go for business. STEM CELLS = CURES FOR DISEASES and therfore pose a threat the corporations backing the republicans. The republicans are literally a death culture. They support wars because it empowers the military-industrial corporations & the oppose stem cells because it threatens the health industry corporations. Get rid of these people.
October 27th, 2006 at 2:27 pmWrong, Raylin. Even in your condition you are million times more useful, valuable, beautiful and admirable than people like Exley (just to name the most ignorant of dummies here) and others who make this whole issue a political one.
October 27th, 2006 at 2:28 pmWhat you and people like Fox, who dare to speak their minds against mainstream medieval thinking, is a lesson for us. Thank you.
Given Rush’s experience on how much oxycontin to take, I guess he considers himself an expert on pharmacology.
October 27th, 2006 at 2:32 pmYOU WERE USED
Comment by Happy+Guy — October 27, 2006 @ 10:00 am
Sorry to say, you are the one who has been used. The Republican party is famous for taking losers like you under their belts — Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Bill O’Reilly, John McCain, et al. They make you feel like you’re all part of the “team” because they know inherently that your type is incapable of independent thought. You long to be brainwashed and will do anything to feel like you are part of something, anything. After they’ve got you under their spell, the Republicans shamelessly use you and your ilk as their mouthpieces. And like good little Hitler Youth, you go forward spreading hate and lies. I pity you because your time is coming to an end, and it will end badly for you. Because when it ends, you will be left with nothing. The Republicans will disown you and your type the second your services are no longer required. Count on it. Take it to the bank. You will be thrown away like last week’s milk. That’s the Republican’s idea of loyalty. Wake up now before it’s too late for you.
October 27th, 2006 at 2:40 pmHAPPY+GUY,
RUSH SHOULD APOLOGIZE. I DON’T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT MY MOTHER TAUGHT ME IT WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR TO MOCK SOMEONE WITH A DISABLITY OR AN ILLNESS. IF I OR ANY OF MY SIBLINGS WOULD HAVE DONE THAT, MY MOTHER WOULD HAVE SMACKED US AND RIGHTLY SO. HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY A HEALTHY PERSON MOCKING A SICK PERSON? WHAT A POOR UPBRINGING YOU MUST HAVE HAD.
October 27th, 2006 at 2:45 pmardee i REALLY resent u comparing repubs to mentally handicapped people ie pity them not fully human etc. my brother is mentally challenged and he is a delightful sweet n loving person . his life is not sad or incomplete either. u r just as closeminded as any right winger n im a diehard canadian liberal thru n thru. go dems.
October 27th, 2006 at 2:47 pmEmbryonic Stem Cell Research is flat out murder.
This issue has nothing to do with Republicans, Democrats, or Christians.
Murder is illegal world wide, and the killing of embryos is no different.
For those who say embryos aren’t human yet: Why is it that when a pregnant lady gets murdered, the killer is charged with double murder. Double standard if you ask me.
Many people say, “Embryos don’t have blood in their bodies until they’re 4 weeks old”.
October 27th, 2006 at 2:49 pmWell, babies don’t have knee caps until they’re 2 years old. Does that make them any less human? No
Cody, if a fertility clinic is burning and there is a baby in a cradle in the lab and also 100,000 blastocysts, do you save the baby or the 100,000 blastocysts?
Just so you know, the blastocysts we’re talking about are in an earlier state than when most fetuses are naturally washed out of the body, unable to attach to the uterine wall. At least 40% of all fetuses are lost this way. Therefore millions of these fetuses are lost every day of the year. Is your god murdering embryos?
October 27th, 2006 at 2:55 pmChristians, your own book plainly states that god breathed air into Adam and he was alive. In other words, he wasn’t alive until he breathed air. Do embryos breathe air?
October 27th, 2006 at 2:57 pm@greenman:
But of course. Want to see somebody with “real” shakes? Let Rush go off his meds for a day or two:)
October 27th, 2006 at 2:59 pmSo did anyone else starting laughing watching MJF just sitting there shaking uncontrollably? I thought it was hilarious… It reminded me of this shirt that I have “I’m not getting jiggy… I have Parkinson’s”.
Freaking priceless.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:03 pmYou’re sick Ghstfce. And I’m against embryonic stem cell research.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:06 pmSlap-Happy Guy:
You’re more living proof that the typical right winger is perfectly content to endlessly spout off on things he knows absolutely nothing about. Not only that, right wingers don’t even seem to care to know anything factual about the issues they’re debating.
Please do some research about embryonic stem cells, because it sure seems like what limited information you have about them you must have gleaned from Dumbya himself.
Embryonic stem cells are exponentially more useful and adaptable than adult stem cells. Why the hell do you think so many people are pushing so hard to promote this research? Do you think it’s simply because we liberals just want to kill all those blessed frozen “babies” waiting patiently in their freezers to be adopted? I know this might be difficult for you, but try to use your brain.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:07 pmBluedog49-
I would save the baby, because it would die a painful death.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:10 pmThe question isn’t whether 1 baby or 100,000 blastocysts is more important than the other. The important issue is: Are you purposely setting the 100,000 blastocysts on fire?
Ghstfce – you cant be serious?!
October 27th, 2006 at 3:11 pm“For those who say embryos aren’t human yet: Why is it that when a pregnant lady gets murdered, the killer is charged with double murder.”
Ummm… Because the right wing evangelical wackjobs currently controlling our government made it that way?
October 27th, 2006 at 3:11 pmGee Happy Guy, I hope you never get Parkinson’s. But if you do, email me so I can s##t all over you too! Repug ass!
October 27th, 2006 at 3:12 pm#140 – No.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:12 pmThese posts show me nothing but the hate on the left. MUCH of what is said here is far worse than anything Rush Limbough has ever said. I find it hard to embrase the left when they espouse freedom of speech and tolarence of others and yet almost 100% of their responses are as hatefilled or more than anything I hear from the right. Rush was wrong on this one. Oh well. The left proposes legalizing drugs yet bring up Rush’s past addiction whenever they can. The left calls Foley a pedophile even though the legal age of consent is 16 in DC. They re-elect Stodd for 4 more terms even though he was caught having sex with a 17 year old page. The left defends homosexuality unless it is a conservative. The hate and the hypocrisy of the left, along with no plan of action is why I can not support the left.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:15 pmHappy+guy has ran off with his tail between his legs, like all the other cowards who stand big before a tsunami of criticism crashes down on their sorry head. All you have to do, Happy+guy, is admit to your bad form. It’s okay to disagree with Fox’s message, but you know Rush wasn’t trying to disagree: he was trying to destroy through ad hominen attacks. You are either avoiding the inevitable (admitting you were wrong) or you are truly a sociopath.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:17 pmMJ Fox USED Happy+Guy???????????
You seem to have this idea in your head that MJ Fox was sitting around doing nothing about Parkinsons and some Democrats knocked on his door one day and said something like “Michael we know you don’t care about being cured from this thing and are looking forward to dying early with no hope, but could we use you for some commercials because I think people know you and seeing your condition would help us get elected”. And in your world MJ Fox responds “well I don’t know – I just planned on dying young and not seeing my four kids grow up”.
I guess he was also used by Republican Senator Arlen Spector in his reelection campaign. Spector came knocking on his door and said “will you campaign and help me Michael so I can rally the Republican vote and retain my Senate seat.”
Your logic is so twisted it is should be ground for committing you to a mental hospital. Its obvious you have never had a chronic disease or loved someone who had one if you do know what love is.
At best the term USE could be applied to the politicians MJ Fox works with. You could say he is “using” his celebrity status to move politicians, into power, Democrat or Republican, that will support research that he strongly believes will cure him and give him a new chance at life. And I’m sure he is much more up to date about the potential of this research than you. That’s what happens when you get a chronic disease. You read everything and try to learn everything. But you wouldn’t know that. So I trust his judgement and knowledge on this matter of research potential more so than your claims which most likely come from Rush Limbaugh or someone other GOP propaganda agent.
Beyond looking out for his own life and condition I’m sure MJ Fox would love to see his kids grow up and would love to help his very overburdened wife take care of them.
So you can around and spread the “he was USED logic.” that the Fundamentalist Republican pundits like Limbaugh and Coulter have dreamed up to continue their ad hominen attacks since their politicians can’t win on facts or talking truthfully about issues. I’m sure such logic that they fed you keeps you from the suffering the experience of doubt in your petty little heart. And what’s funny about this whole thing is that Limbaugh and Coulter are their own celebrities who have much more air time than MJ Fox who use their celebrity status to sell one political party only no matter what the issues. Who’s being USED here?
Wake up!!!
October 27th, 2006 at 3:18 pmSooyhing — So you’re saying you support the Republicans? Please advise…
October 27th, 2006 at 3:19 pm“The important issue is: Are you purposely setting the 100,000 blastocysts on fire?”
Trying to sensibly converse with right wingers who use nothing but their “gut” and the Bible for guidance makes me want to set my hair on fire…
October 27th, 2006 at 3:22 pm#136 Cody
Embryonic Stem Cell Research is flat out murder.
Let’s see if you know what we’re talking about. The blastocyst used in embryonic stem cell research, from which stem cells are extracted, is:
a) a fully formed fetus able to survive outside of the womb with the help of an incubator,
b) a tiny embryo, not fully formed, about the size of a quarter, or
c) a cluster of cells, measuring 0.1 to 0.2 millimeters (4 to 8 thousandths of an inch) in diameter
Take a wild guess.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:24 pm“MUCH of what is said here is far worse than anything Rush Limbough has ever said.”
Hmm…. Let’s see… Rush has a nationally syndicated show that goes out to millions of listeners. The people posting comments on this site… Not so much.
Maybe a much more useful barometer of lefty vs. righty hate/fearmongering would be to compare the rhetoric of the most popular lefty talking heads vs. righty talking heads. You know, like maybe Stewart, Olbermann and Franken vs. Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly and Coulter.
Be sure to come back and tell us what you discover.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:28 pmDear God,
Please make Rush Limbaugh die slowly from Parkinson’s disease.
Yours truly,
Justice
Comment by GodfryDaniel — October 27, 2006 @ 10:06 am
Dear God,
Please make Senator Studds die a slow horrible death because he HAD sex with an underage page. Then he was reelected 3 times, by other gay child molesters. Oh wait nevermind he is already rotting in hell. Then take the democrat Jefferson for taking a $100,000 bribe and was caught on tape. Oh forget that too. Dems are perfect.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:32 pm#136 Cody
Many people say, “Embryos don’t have blood in their bodies until they’re 4 weeks oldâ€.
Well, babies don’t have knee caps until they’re 2 years old. Does that make them any less human? No
What recognizable human features does a blastocyst have? Face? Head? Limbs? Genitalia? Heart? What?!!!
How could you tell a human one from that of another animal, a dog for example? If you had to choose between a human blastocyst to save and a dog blastocyst to save, how would you be able to tell which one was which?
With all due respect–and I mean all DUE respect–you bible-thumping right-wingers are real good with the symbolic compassion, but you suck out loud when it comes to real compassion for real human beings. That’s why you can get all worked up over fetuses, embryos, and blastocysts. But, when it comes to hundreds of thousands of real live human beings getting blown up, gunned down, burned alive, starved to death, or tortured for no good reason whatsoever, you can’t muster one ounce of pity before rushing to the defense of Bush’s bullshit stories in a desperate attempt to justify it.
Symbolic compassion. That’s all you heartless f*cks are capable of.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:35 pmCraig:
WTF is the relevance of your last post? Please do explain.
You righties do love your straw men, don’t you?
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October 27th, 2006 at 3:38 pmSounds like you’re the one full of hate. CHIMP
What does it matter if a human embryo is recognizable or not?
That has no relevance to whether it’s acceptable to kill it or not.
Say something logical please.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:40 pmWow. I really like the large generalization of republicans by the “open minded” folks commenting here. There couldn’t possibly be a non-religious, compassionate, open-minded republican, could there.
You guys are just the other side of the same coin. Rush in ass and so are most of you.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:41 pmWow. I really like the large generalization of republicans by the “open minded” folks commenting here. There couldn’t possibly be a non-religious, compassionate, open-minded republican, could there.
You guys are just the other side of the same coin. Rush is an ass and so are most of you.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:42 pmThere really isn’t much more to say. Reality speaks for itself. At least to those who aren’t ideologues.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:45 pmYou lefties are all a bunch of useless tits!
Go Happy Guy!
October 27th, 2006 at 3:50 pmGrover: Please share your “good Republican” stories. Especially those involving the non-religious kind. We’re waiting.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:55 pmI, for one, would like to thank Rush Limbaugh for rallying more people to the cause of stem-cell research. Thanks to you Rush, and your big freaking mouth, millions of people will now champion Michael Fox’s noble cause.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:55 pm#148 Sooyhing
The left proposes legalizing drugs yet bring up Rush’s past addiction whenever they can.
Who? What drugs? What are you talking about? What a bunch of crap. Rimjob gets blasted because he said right on his show that people who use drugs illegally should be thrown in the slammer. Why shouldn’t that include him when he’s the one who made that statement?
The left calls Foley a pedophile even though the legal age of consent is 16 in DC.
Nice Republican talking point. He gets off on a technicality? Sorry, the parents of those pages aren’t really concerned whether or not Foley was able to score with their teenage kids. The fact that he was free to hit on them is upsetting to a normal parent. And you can’t defend the GOP leadership for protecting him and letting him continue to head the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children Caucus. Can you?
They re-elect Stodd for 4 more terms even though he was caught having sex with a 17 year old page.
Ancient history, but Studds was re-elected by his district. Nobody else had a say in the matter.
The left defends homosexuality unless it is a conservative.
Defend? The “left” doesn’t defend it. There’s nothing to defend. They just don’t believe in treating homosexuals with contempt.
The hate and the hypocrisy of the left, along with no plan of action is why I can not support the left.
You are simply oblivious.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:56 pmSo Happy Guy, you now have a split personality. Wow, who would have guessed it. Cut the crap. You didn’t win. You lost. You won’t win in November. You will lose. Then you’ll be a sad guy. Pity.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:56 pmGrover+Saunders:
Generalizations are–by definition–broad, general statements that aren’t intended to apply to every single person. And, generally speaking, those who defend Limbaugh’s attack on Michael J Fox are extremely partisan Bushophiles. Bush, his administration, and his right wing Congress have demonstrated themselves to be, time and again, stubborn merchants of intolerance and destruction and panderers to evangelical Christians.
If you don’t fit into this “generalization,” then you should probably realize that nobody is talking about you.
October 27th, 2006 at 3:57 pmAnother brilliant analogy form the folks that brought us monkeyboy-”useless tits”,brilliant,positively brilliant.I’d rather be a useless tit than a Limpdick.
October 27th, 2006 at 4:03 pmI wonder what Limpy would have done if it had been, say, Muhammed Ali in the ad instead of MJF.
October 27th, 2006 at 4:04 pm#163
You lefties are all a bunch of useless tits!
Go Happy Guy!
Look at that. Happy Guy is cheering himself on. Is that your way of saying you’re incapable of a rational response?
October 27th, 2006 at 4:05 pm“What does it matter if a human embryo is recognizable or not?
That has no relevance to whether it’s acceptable to kill it or not.”
A blastocyst is a microscopic clump of cells. That’s what we’re talking about here.
Heck, you know what… Since a blastocyst can be considered a person, let’s have a law that prosecutes all miscarriages. I’m sure we can make a case to have all those expecting mothers thrown in jail because they either neglected their babies or simply didn’t do enough to protect them.
October 27th, 2006 at 4:11 pm#73, I’m so sick of this whiney phrase, “he lied under oath, he lied under oath, waahhhh. Good Gawd! He lied about an affair, likely to save his family from humiliation or what any other reason people lie about affairs! He never should have been questioned about it. Why do you ask about some serious presidential lies that have costs lives!
October 27th, 2006 at 4:25 pmI agree with JC. We cannot blast away on a new technological technique involving the possible death of “embryos” while embryos are getting killed off by miscarriages, contraceptive chemicals, and abortions. If people say that “life is sacred, down with stem cells,” why isn’t there a public outcry against using tissues and organs from animals (mainly pigs due to their similar biological structure to human beings, no offense.) to treat humans? Are humans the only things with this “life” everyone is trying to defend? Quit being hippocritical damnit! (I apologize if I misspelled anything.)
October 27th, 2006 at 4:31 pmOf all the things said in this “debate,” this one is the most telling:
“I win – have a good weekend – ROTFL ”
When is this going to stop being about WINNING? When is it going to be about doing what’s right for the country? I don’t care if you’re a Democrat or Republican, why can’t the issue be about what needs to be done to make this country work, not what needs to be done to make it so I can gloat about being right?
James Madison said “The public good is disregarded in the conclicts of the rival parties.” It remains astounding that, 220 years afterwards, we still cannot, through intellectual evolution, remedy this flaw in our democracy.
October 27th, 2006 at 4:31 pmI’m tired of arguing with you sick a$$holes. You’ll never get that killing an unborn embryo or child (same thing) on purpose (even if it benefits 100’s of generations) is plain murder. You’re all pretty heartless.
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I am a Doctor. The ignorance and stupidity of the rightwingers on this post is awesome. Instead of tossing into the incinerator 50000 fertilized ova, they could be donated by their parents for use by science. It is like a donation of the kdneys, heart, skin, etc., by a 6 year old brain dead child after a car accident. It happens all the time in every city in the US. It is the gift of life from the parents who want to help a sick child to recover, and it is inspiring,life-fulfilling charity. There is an absolute ly incredible potential in the knowledge and benefits possible by using the totipotential stem cells that are EMBYONIC.They might teach us how to cure a huge variety of currently mysterious diseases we are impotent to treat.Parkinsons is only one with tremendous potential. I wish EVERY politician who votes against Embryonic Stem Cell research is thrown out of office..Democrat or Republican. There are decent Republicans who are fighting to allow government expanded stem cell research like Nancy Reagan, Arlen Specter, John Danforth and that otherwise obnoxious Orrin Hatch.
October 27th, 2006 at 4:47 pm#172 JC
Heck, you know what… Since a blastocyst can be considered a person, let’s have a law that prosecutes all miscarriages. I’m sure we can make a case to have all those expecting mothers thrown in jail because they either neglected their babies or simply didn’t do enough to protect them.
For that matter, shouldn’t there be a law against keeping all those 400,000 blastocysts locked in a freezer against their will? At the very least, it should be considered false imprisonment. Perhaps kidnapping, or even abuse. I’m waiting to hear about People for the Ethical Treatment of Blastocysts (PETB) breaking in to a fertility lab and freeing all those little blastocysts so they can each go find a uterus and live their lives to the fullest.
October 27th, 2006 at 4:48 pmDouglas G
I concede the fact that Clinton lied under oath about getting a consensual blowjob, so his wife would not find out.
I also concede that Bush and his cronies have repeatedly lied, although not under oath, and the policies built on those lies are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, the waste of billions of dollars of the national treasury, and assaults on human dignity, civil rights, and the Constitution.
I’m pretty sure most people have the necessary cognitive skills and moral compass to properly weigh these offenses against one another, and make appropriate voting decisions accordingly.
Then there’s you.
October 27th, 2006 at 4:52 pmCody:
Where is your outrage about the countless children living in poverty without proper healthcare? What about the teenagers who are being marched through Bush’s meatgrinder in Iraq? And the Iraqi children being blown to bits? Don’t you think it’s rather strange that right wing evangelicals only seem to come out of the woodwork to condemn everyone when the topic is unborn “babies” and those icky homos? (Girl-on-girl hanky panky ain’t so bad, tho… so long as they’re purty.)
Why is it that you seem to care much more about unrecognizable, microscopic clumps of cells than human beings that have already been born and are suffering right now?
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October 27th, 2006 at 5:03 pm#176 Cody
You’ll never get that killing an unborn embryo or child (same thing) on purpose (even if it benefits 100’s of generations) is plain murder. You’re all pretty heartless.
Cody, you won’t address logical arguments. You ignore them. And your statement above tells me that you’re indoctrinated and you refuse to consider anything that runs counter to your indoctrination. You can’t engage in an argument, because you just repeat the same absolutes over and over. You don’t offer any justification for calling it murder. It’s not even mentioned in the Bible. You don’t acknowledge your own contradictions when they’re pointed out to you. You’re programmed. Why bother attempting to communicate with someone who doesn’t agree with you? You’re impervious to proof. You’re a stranger to deduction. Nothing can change your mind and you can’t offer a logical argument to change someone else’s. You should just go live inside your religion and never come out. And please stay out of the voting booth.
October 27th, 2006 at 5:03 pmWhy does any candidate against stem cell research have to cringe? There are ZERO advances in regards to any diseases with fetal stem cells. All of the advances are from adult stem cells or stem cells drawn from cord blood at the time of birth. (If you are a soon to be parent, have them store the cord blood if you can)
Democrats campaign as if there is a known cure. All we need are the fetal stem cells and we can produce it. Those republicans are keeping these people from being cured.
There is no cure. There is no promise of a cure with fetal stem cells. There is no we’re almost there. There is no we’re even close.
All this is, is a backdoor attempt to de-humanize a fetus so that abortion is easier to justify.
Does Rush need to appologise to Fox? Yes.
Does anyone anti fetal stem cell research on tax dollars need to appologise? Absolutely not.
Do Democrats need to go to confession about how they lie to people and give the impression about how there are cures out there and it’s because Republicans are in office, that they can’t have them? You bet.
My wife has Parkinsons, I know what it does to a person. It’s terrible, but there is nothing even remotely promising in the wings based on fetal stem cell research. It’s a fraud being perpetuated on people looking for hope and using it as a cheap campaign tactic. It’s disgusting.
Note that I’m blaming the DNC here not MJF.
October 27th, 2006 at 5:05 pmCody, #176
I’m tired of arguing with you sick a$$holes. You’ll never get that killing an unborn embryo or child (same thing) on purpose (even if it benefits 100’s of generations) is plain murder. You’re all pretty heartless.
Actually, I’m pretty sure it’s those embryos that are heartless. And also brainless, fingerless, and toeless.
You are also heartless because you care more about that embryo than you do about “100’s of generations”. That’s a strange imbalance.
Factually, these embryos are destined to be destroyed anyway, so unless you are advocating the outlawing of fertility treatments that produce these excess embryos in the first place, you are either displaying impressive hypocrisy or willful stupidity.
Here’s your opportunity to make a hypothetical moral judgement call. Suppose you meet a research scientist who is on the verge of curing cancel and saving the lives of hundreds of millions of people over future centuries. Now suppose the final part of the research puzzle requires that he harvest some stem cells from an embryo. He has that embryo in front of him, and it will be used either for harvesting stem cells or it will be flushed down the toilet. If he does the harvesting, millions will live and the embryo will be destroyed. If he flushes the embryo, millions will die, and the embryo still will be destroyed.
What would you have the researcher do? Please explain your logical and moral reasoning, and please do so without appealing to your religious convictions that may not be shared by other law-abiding American citizens who have the constitutional protection to not be beholden to your religion.
October 27th, 2006 at 5:06 pmFor that matter, shouldn’t there be a law against keeping all those 400,000 blastocysts locked in a freezer against their will?
You’d think they would crack down on all the people who go to fertility clinics, have their “babies” mass produced, and then only take responsibility for one. These people are abandoning their “babies”! These mothers should be forced to carry their all of their “babies” to term. Then, after they’re born… well, who cares?
October 27th, 2006 at 5:07 pmWhy do assume I don’t care about those issues? In fact, I care about them a great deal. We just haven’t discussed them here. So stop assuming things.
Poverty: I believe that we should help the impoverished get on their feet, but there needs to be a major reconstruction of our welfare system. One that has checks and balances. Republicans care about people too. But they know that if you throw money at people and don’t make them take some responsibility for themselves, they’re not going to try to help themselves. Why not, the gov. takes care of them. Life’s peachy. I know of two families in my area that take their kids to daycare and go home to sit on their butts all day and collect welfare, and they don’t have any disabilities.
Iraqi children being blown to bits:
Iraqi’s are doing that with sectarian violence. Our military may have killed some accidentally, but we sure as hell don’t intend too. Al Qaeda trains kids – that’s sick.
Gay:
October 27th, 2006 at 5:11 pmHomosexuality is wrong by biblical standards. That’s a no brainer. Marriage itself is a biblical idea. So, if two dudes want to be with each other. Let them. But allowing them to be married is not right. that’s not what marriage is about.
Health Care:
Republicans won’t major health care reform too. We don’t want a state run system though.
October 27th, 2006 at 5:19 pmMy wife and I just had a baby a few months ago. No maternity ins. The hospital bills were close to $10,000. What worse, my sister who is on welfare, sits at home with her husband all day and doesn’t have to pay a damn dollar for her child to be born.
Oops “want”
October 27th, 2006 at 5:20 pm“You’ll never get that killing an unborn embryo or child (same thing) on purpose (even if it benefits 100’s of generations) is plain murder. You’re all pretty heartless.”
NOBODY WANTS TO ABORT HEALTHY FETUSES FOR RESEARCH, YOU GOD DAMN MORON!!!
October 27th, 2006 at 5:30 pmWhy does any candidate against stem cell research have to cringe? There are ZERO advances in regards to any diseases with fetal stem cells. All of the advances are from adult stem cells or stem cells drawn from cord blood at the time of birth.
It’s rather telling that you’ve chosen to describe the research in question as “fetal”. It’s embryonic stem cell research, more specifically blastocystic.
Did it ever occur to you that more advances haven’t been made in embryonic stem cell research because it’s been banned by this administration? Oh, sure, you can spout off some right wing talking points about how Bush allowed experimentation on “existing cell lines”– many of which had already been contaminated, thereby severely limiting their usefulness–but the fact is, Bush banned further research.
I urge you, just as I did with another right winger upthread, to do a little more fact checking about the vastly greater potential for embryonic stem cells vs. adult stem cells. I can’t believe how many of you keep spewing out this nonsense that adult stem cell research is more promising. If that’s so, why in the world would so many people (scientists included) be fighting to have embryonic stem cell research legalized and funded? Do you think they just get their jollies by killing “babies”?
What’s “disgusting” is how so many right wingers simply regurgitate false talking points instead of actually doing some research into these issues. They try to shroud their positions with bogus “scientific” reasoning, yet the only real basis for their views is religion. I don’t know why they don’t just come right out and say that, instead of misguidedly distorting the facts.
October 27th, 2006 at 5:40 pmCody #187
Homosexuality is wrong by biblical standards. That’s a no brainer. Marriage itself is a biblical idea. So, if two dudes want to be with each other. Let them. But allowing them to be married is not right. that’s not what marriage is about.
I won’t bother commenting on the many flaws of your ill-considered biblical argument. Others will surely do that. I will, however, comment on the extreme chutzbah required to impose your religious system on the US legal system.
Marriage is a word with two associations. One is a religious bond between two people. The other is a legal bond between two people. I see nowhere that Christianity can claim ownership to any particular word or its meaning and usage.
Christian churches can deny church-sanctioned marriage to anybody they want, but the government has no business making legal decisions on a religious basis.
I myself was married to my wife by a justice of the peace, not by a minister. If your church prefers to consider me not married, believe me I won’t lose any sleep. I’m married as far as my wife is concerned, and as far as the IRS and other government bodies are concerned, and that’s all that matters to me.
A marriage is the concern of three groups – the couple between each other, between the couple and their government, and between the couple and their god. The latter is truly not an important factor for many millions of people, even if it is to you.
October 27th, 2006 at 5:52 pm#187 Cody
Gay:
Homosexuality is wrong by biblical standards. That’s a no brainer.
Where does it say that in the Bible?
October 27th, 2006 at 5:58 pmMike Fox is a lying scumball. His ad is a piss bucket of lies. And I am certain he is smart enough to know that. Oh, and he is a victim. That is a fact, not an opinion. He is ill, therefore he is less than normal. I’d fight for his right to say whatever he wants, but he is lying and the public needs to know that.
October 27th, 2006 at 6:01 pmLick my anus, moonbats.
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense [sic] of their error which was meet. Romans 1:26 – 27
October 27th, 2006 at 6:05 pmSo Cody is a latent homosexual. Wow, I’m so surprised. He’s the perfect little Hitler-loving, oops, Bush-loving Republican.
October 27th, 2006 at 6:13 pmBut they know that if you throw money at people and don’t make them take some responsibility for themselves, they’re not going to try to help themselves. Why not, the gov. takes care of them. Life’s peachy.
So, why is it that Repubs think it’s OK for the government to throw money at corporate America? Oh, yeah, it’s that “trickle down” nonsense, where if the rich keep getting richer, they’re eventually going to share their wealth and good fortune with everyone else instead of hoarding it for themselves, right?
And I’m really tired of hearing this “poor people are lazy” argument. There are plenty of lazy, spoiled rich people, too, who are simply allowed to ride through life on the coattails of their rich parents or grandparents. If you care about babies so much, why should babies who are born into rich families get all the breaks while babies born into poverty face much more difficult and dangerous lives? Don’t you think there should be more of an attempt to level the playing field for all babies so they might all succeed, regardless of who their parents may be?
Corporate-run health care is never going to work. The capitalist system is all based on profit. We need a government-run health care system that isn’t going to abandon people who need the most help. Right now, if a person isn’t seen as being profitable by the insurance companies, his rates are either jacked up–potentially to the point of unaffordability, or he’s dropped altogether. For Christ’s sake, if there’s one thing that all compassionate human beings should agree on, it’s that everyone deserves healthcare. The main sticking point seems to be that rich folks want for themselves the best health care money can buy, but they’re not going to get that under a government system. Fine, they should be entitled to buy private health insurance just like they’re entitled to send their kids to private schools.
October 27th, 2006 at 6:14 pm#187 Cody
Iraqi children being blown to bits:
Iraqi’s are doing that with sectarian violence. Our military may have killed some accidentally, but we sure as hell don’t intend too. Al Qaeda trains kids – that’s sick.
First of all, you’re wrong. Second, I don’t think you want to know how wrong you are, because it would eat away at your conscience. I think you just want to believe what some right-winger told you and then you don’t have to face the facts. I wish I could make you go witness what’s happening over there. I wish you could see all the people who have been killed by our troops and how they were killed. When it was our president’s choice to invade Iraq, you don’t get to say afterwards “Oops, we accidentally killed some innocent people in the process of trying to kill the enemy. Oh well, freedom isn’t free.” When you casually dismiss those people’s lives, you share in the guilt of their needless deaths. When we invaded, there were whole families killed in the bombing. I remember seeing one Iraqi man who couldn’t get home fast enough to be with his family. When he got to the rubble that used to be his house, his wife and all of his kids were crushed to death underneath it. Our bombs did that. Oh well.
You cannot call yourself a Christian and at the same time be casual about the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents. And I don’t care whether or not all of them were directly caused by American troops. Bush is responsible for those deaths. He made a bad choice to invade Iraq and he didn’t care about collateral damage when he made that choice. It didn’t matter to him. He’s a sociopath who doesn’t have a shred of empathy in his entire being.
Just stop lying to yourself, Cody. It doesn’t make the guilt go away.
October 27th, 2006 at 6:18 pmMike Fox is a lying scumball. His ad is a piss bucket of lies.
Care to elaborate? Or could it be that you’re spewing out vile shit like so many other right wing “Christians” have a tendency to do?
October 27th, 2006 at 6:21 pm#198 Cody
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:13
Thanks for stepping into it Cody. Leviticus also says you can’t plant two different crops in the same field or wear garments made of two different kinds of thread. You wouldn’t do that, would you? Do you eat shellfish? Leviticus 11:10 says it’s an abomination. Do you work on the sabbath? If so, Exodus 35:3 says you should be put to death. Leviticus says you can own slaves. Exodus says you can sell your own daughter into slavery. There’s more.
I do hope you’re adhering strictly to the whole Bible and not just cherry-picking.
October 27th, 2006 at 6:29 pm#197 John
Lick my anus, moonbats.
On you that would be considered a French kiss.
October 27th, 2006 at 6:32 pmCody – the Bible is a big ol’ fairy tale for people who are afraid, or who need to be made afraid. No one’s impressed with your crap. Find some kids your own age to bother.
October 27th, 2006 at 6:39 pmMichael Fox is a man, who takes responsibility for his actions, unlike so many others in this celebrity besotted culture of ours. My hat is off to him. I would follow him into any battle.
And to all you right wing numbnuts who hate America and what she stands for (you know who you are) I quote John Lennon: Instant Karma’s gonna get you. Knock you right in the head.
October 27th, 2006 at 6:49 pmAnd he used profanity too! Go Michael! Tell that jackass Rush off!
October 27th, 2006 at 6:58 pmMichael J. Fox: ‘I Could Give a Damn About Rush Limbaugh’s Pity…I’m Not A Victim’…
Michael J. Fox is a "Mensch." What a class act. And then we have the elephant turd, Rush Limbaugh….
October 27th, 2006 at 7:20 pmWell, for what is is worth, I think Mr. Fox did exactly what he intended. He put “his” issue in front of people in the biggest way possible, and he is trying to get the advocates for his position to come to the polls. I don’t think he cares if his opposition comes to the polls, because he knows they will be outnumbered if science-supporters get off their butts, speak out, and show up at the polls.
Rush Limbaugh is , after all, an entertainer–he is not a pundit, nor is he a thinker. He is the equivalent of a clown or jester. The sad part of it is that people who fancy themselves as “serious” take Rush seriously. I think we are well aware Rush “speaks his mind”. That’s what entertainers do. So does Randi Rhodes. So does Jay Leno. Why is anybody getting bent out of shape because of this? I think Mr. Fox (coming from the world of entertainment and celebrity) understands this completely, and his circumstances led him out of entertainment a long time ago.
October 27th, 2006 at 7:45 pm#155 Please make Senator Studds die a slow horrible death
How is that possible when Studds recently died? Please don’t post. We have enough brain-dead righty trolls. Actually, don’t breath.
October 27th, 2006 at 8:02 pmThe stem cell people should craft a 10 minute educational piece about what stem cell science is about, what it’s promise is, what are it’s benefits, currently, and what it seems likely will happen in the near future. Use Michael J Fox. Use it in schools, and science class, where out-dated and ignorant religion has no place. This is the key to so much future neurological and organ science, people really need to be shown what the facts are. And why are these Fundies so uncomfortable with bodies, and the physical facts of bodies-that they explain it away as too little or too much medication. This is a devastating disease, that is well documented. No one has to act anything. Do they deny Michael J Fox has Parkinson’s Disease? Rush should be in jail, just like he advocated for other drug felons. There will be more to c ome with that Jabba the Hut wannabee.
October 27th, 2006 at 8:03 pm#176 Try not to brush your teeth. You kill more cells doing that. You murderer!!!
October 27th, 2006 at 8:03 pmWhy is anybody getting bent out of shape because of this?
I probably would have agreed with your take on this and thought, “Well, that’s just typical Rush Limbaugh assholishness,” had it not been for the fact that Matt Lauer pretty much defended Limbaugh’s line of thinking on the Today Show while interviewing Laura Ingraham.
I couldn’t understand how any sane person could defend such blatantly ugly, insensitive comments towards a person suffering from a debilitating illness and fighting for such a noble cause.
Welcome to the America of 2006.
October 27th, 2006 at 8:04 pm# 176 My apologies. You probably don’t have to. You probably don’t have teeth to brush…so stop scratching your ass you murderer.
October 27th, 2006 at 8:05 pm#187 That’s a no brainer.
Um, yeah.
October 27th, 2006 at 8:06 pm#197 He is ill, therefore he is less than normal
You make this so easy. You are semi-retarded. That makes you less than normal. My apologies to the semi-retarded.
October 27th, 2006 at 8:09 pm#209 Rush Limbaugh is , after all, an entertainer–he is not a pundit
Really? His show is entertainment? Then why, when you Google “Rush Limbaugh pundit” do you get 892000 hits and only 232000 for “Rush Limbaugh entertainer”?
October 27th, 2006 at 8:12 pm#35
You’re a real ‘winner’ alright.
You and the rest of the GOP ‘fantasy league’ just live in your own “reality” don’t you?
I do predict that you and your fantasy friends have one gigantic Rude Awakening waiting for you soon.
Maybe the GOP leaders back on the Death Star have figured out a way to steal this election too, but the desperation is apparent.
It’s written all over your leaders faces and it’s apparent in the over-the-top/under the rock type of political ads the GOP is running (then pulling only if there’s a negative backlash).
Look at the polls. The number of Americans that still have faith in this administration is lower than whale poop!
Look at Lynn(sp?) Cheney on Wolf Blitzer’s show today.
The strain is written all over her face, and listening to her deny the obvious in that interview is really pathetic.
Keep whistling past that graveyard, but rest assured that reality is going to jump up and bite all of you ‘ignorami’ (yes, I made the word up) right in the ass.
You go on and have a beautiful weekend. Think nothing of the soldiers and civillians who will die in Iraq this weekend because your heros lied to get us into the war, and have their heads so far up their butts they can’t figure out how to get us out.
(Gee, how about heading back to Afghanistan and finishing THAT job like we should have in the first place?)
Yeah, a nice clean little war we’ll have us…. Get in, change the government, and get out. What could possibly go wrong?
October 27th, 2006 at 8:29 pmEh Rummy?
#40,
Your disgusting ‘comment’ says more about you and those like you (thank God it only *seems* like there are a lot of you idiots) than any of us could.
Thank you for being a true representative of the party of lies, corruption, and hypocritical behavior.
Statements such as yours must make them so proud!
Between Bush and the deadenders that are still clinging to his skirt, it’s hard to tell who is dumber*.
*I’m betting on Bush, but from here it’s a toss-up.
October 27th, 2006 at 8:43 pmIf a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death.
Well, when you are in bed with a man, you could sleep on your back – as long as you sleep on your side when with a woman. The passage doesn’t say anything about homosexuality – just that you should sleep with men a different way than you do with women.
October 27th, 2006 at 9:03 pm#220 Bush lies to women AND men. You think he should be put to death? No, don’t answer. :)
October 27th, 2006 at 9:11 pmHey guys, don’t fret about pond scum like Limbaugh, or the Republicans’ obsession with stem cells. The rest of the world is continuing to research stem cell therapies like crazy. Which means the profits from the new treatments will go to European or Asian entrepreneurs. Sorry Bush, you can fool half the US people most of the time, but even you can’t stop the world going round.
October 27th, 2006 at 9:13 pmKatie Couric is a friggin’ moron. Why the hell does she feel that she needs to explain that Rush Limpbaugh feels he was misunderstood? The asshole has a nationally syndicated show to explain his position.
Also why does she ask Michael J Fox if he could have waited until he was less visually suffering from his illness before doing the commercial? Why the hell should he be ashamed of his condition and why should the public not see what he’s suffering through?
I hope Katie and CBS finish last during her entire tenure there. Idiots!
October 27th, 2006 at 9:56 pmBreak dance ye for the lord. For God so love the world, that Bible Babblers babbled about the tower of Babel.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:31 pmLet me just make a few observations. Recently, I just heard a little blurb about Rush Limbaugh making a few comments about this ad that shows Michael J. Fox rocking. It is quite interesting to me, whether or not Michael J. Fox forgot to take his medication on purpose in order to get more sympathy for Stem Cell research, the suggestion that he was trying to manipulate the audience wouldn’t be something new. Television ads are all about manipulating things in order to sell their products. Why isn’t Rush Limbaugh pointing to dozens of other political ads that are not only trying to manipulate the audience, but are doing so with lies and other dirty tactics? My point is that Michael J. Fox feel strongly about stem cell research and if the only political party supporting this kind of research is the Democratic Party, then, of course, he will be doing ads for them. If you also listen to everything he says in the Katie Couric interview, it is amazing how clearheaded he is about what he believes and how he respects those who have an absolutely different outlook. Let me conclude by saying that I have the ultimate respect for Michael J. Fox just because he has handled his condition extremely well and that he has come to terms with it rather quickly.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:49 pm#225 Well said. One point I need to make though is it isn’t the Democratic party, it is those who are pro-stem cell research. Fox campaigned for Arlen Specter.
October 27th, 2006 at 11:55 pmI don’t want to sink to the level of Mr. Limbaugh or anyone else here who is attacking anyone else over this issue. I just think that Michael J. Fox is so courageous and genuine. He could have just faded away in seclusion to live out his remaining years as comfortably as he could. But instead he is fighting not only for himself but for millions of other people with various diseases who do not have the celebrity status where they can draw the same high level of attention to their problems that Mr. Fox can.
The only people politicizing the use of embryonic stem cells are those who claim that a blastula, which is an invisible to the naked eye group of cells (an embryo is not the same thing as a fetus), is a human. These same embryos are going to be destroyed anyway, so the only way that the people opposing embryonic stem cell research can be legitimate would be if they also opposed in-vitro fertilization as strongly since in-vitro is what is creating thousands of embryos that don’t survive just so that a few of those can be implanted into a uterus in the hopes of allowing an infertile couple to bear a child of their own.
So I guess from the anti-embryonic stem cell research people’s perspective, killing embryos is OK as long as it is for the purpose of creating new life through in-vitro, but using those same embryos which are going to “die” anyway to help existing humans is wrong. That doesn’t make any sense to me.
October 28th, 2006 at 12:39 amAs a self-described conservative Republican who votes on the issues, rather than the scandals, I would like to offer the following…
First, even if it were a demonstrable fact that Mr. Fox intentionally engineered the filming of this commercial spot to coincide with the symptoms of Parkinson’s at their worst, I do not find that particularly objectionable. Inasmuch as his illness defines the issue that he is the most passionate about, he not only has the right to demonstrate how bad it can be, but it is the mark of the truly intellectually impoverished not to accept that portrayal as educational and enlightening. Those who are confident in the morality of their stance on stem cell research ought to have the strength of character necessary to maintain that position even when presented with the undeniable evidence of how many innocent people suffer as a result of it, and how severe that suffering truly is.
Secondly, it is not a demonstrable fact that Mr. Fox engineered anything of the kind. It is innuendo compounded by shameful theatrics and behavior that I find morally reprehensible on a fundamental level. As a Christian, I cannot witness the antics of Mr. Limbaugh as he thoughtlessly mocks those who suffer from this illness, or the subsequent righteous outpouring from his apologetic supporters with anything other than the utmost of pity and revulsion. Whether it be his hypocritical stance on drug use, his complete lack of compassion for others, or his mindless and intolerant rhetoric, Rush takes professional pride in his embodiment of the least admirable human qualities… and his role as lightning rod for those who feel likewise.
May God show these blighted souls some mercy, and for the rest – some justice.
October 28th, 2006 at 12:47 amGood old rush. rush proves that if you’re rich and right not only can you get away with durg charges that would put most of us behind bars; you can then accuse others of not taking their meds to ’show off’. For my part it’s good to see MJF on the screen and if MJF wants to apply himself for a good cause, I appluad him!
October 28th, 2006 at 1:07 amIf Michael J. Fox’s communication resonates with you, stay focused on his message. Take up the challenge and promote scientific research, including stem cell research. Hope is an expectation in something, or someone. Perhaps you realize that ‘hope’ is intrinsically human. As goes humanity, so goes hope. Those of us most capable, sensitive and adaptable, in essence those who are at this point still reading, are also the most responsible. The hopes of those who find themselves able to do nothing more, their hopes rest upon each of us. Summum Bonum
October 28th, 2006 at 1:30 amRepublicans are pure evil. Period. Rush (perfect name for a hypocrite junkie) is one of their “leading intellectuals”
October 28th, 2006 at 1:47 am#228
Thanks for the post. Your message is positive proof that Republicans, conservatives, and Christians need not be morally bankrupt assholes. It’s the evil neocons and fanatical theocrats who have hijacked the Republican party, destroyed the meaning of conservatism, and brought shame to religiosity.
Christianity doesn’t work for me, but I have no problem with those who follow it, so long as they don’t try to make their book the law of the land.
I used to consider myself conservative back when that meant “spend wisely and minimize government intervention”. This administration is the complete opposite, wasting our treasury, killing our people, and sticking their nose into our daily lives. Bill Clinton was a stodgy conservative in comparison to the Bush administration – recall those days of balanced budgets, peace, and civil liberties.
I will vote straight Democrat, as should any true conservative and any thinking Republican and Christian, not because I agree with all of the Democrat’s political positions (I definitely do not), but because we must act now to break the hold on our government by evil fanatical liars who are a bigger threat to our way of life than Osama bin Laden.
Once we’ve cleansed this trash from the political system, we can get back to having policy debates like the good old days.
October 28th, 2006 at 3:44 amJust amazing…. The Ultra Conservative Christian Right has screwed the GOP beyond all recognition.
Both Parties are a wreck.
October 28th, 2006 at 9:35 amJust wanted to correct my post #192, in which a particular paragraph was very sloppily worded.
Bush banned the public funding of embryonic stem cell research, not the research itself. But the point remains, obviously the advancement of this research (which is in its infancy–no pun intended) has been severely hindered by not being properly funded.
October 28th, 2006 at 10:59 amThe Republicans are waiting for an opportunity to make money on embryonic stem cell research. It’s the only thing that matters to them. They’ll have a rationale for supporting if and when they know it will turn a profit. There is nothing, no cause, they will not use to turn a profit. Rush is without any values except those that generate an audience and ratings so they can charge advertisers more. He claimed after his own drug debacle that he “wasn’t a role model” Sure he is. He is a role model for the radical right, power hungry, valueless Republican Party that has seized power in Washington.
October 28th, 2006 at 11:10 amLimbaugh’s just attacking something he doesn’t understand – as usual. Someone such as MJF standing up and supporting something they believe in is unfathomable to people like Limbaugh – all he cares about is making a few more million from the slack-jawed bigoted rednecks that comprise his audience. Don’t expect an apology anytime soon because Limbaugh has never let the truth get in the way of his opinions (as anyone who has listened to him for five minutes can tell you). Furthermore, if he truly thought that MJF deliberately didn’t take his medication…what could be more horrifying to a fat impotant junkie like Limbaugh than the neglect of perfectly good pharmaceuticals!
October 28th, 2006 at 1:31 pm[...] From ThinkProgress.org, an interview with Katie Couric: Rush Limbaugh has smeared Michael J. Fox, claiming that he exaggerated the symptoms of his Parkinson’s disease in an ad supporting embryonic stem cell research. (He also mocked Fox by impersonating tremors associated with the disease on air.) In an effort to deflect criticism, Limbaugh told Katie Couric the following: “I believe Democrats have a long history of using victims of various things as political spokespeople because they believe they are untouchable, infallible, they are immune from criticism.†[...]
October 28th, 2006 at 3:52 pmFor all you nutjobs who say that Michael Fox was, somehow, unfairly using his condition to stump for democratic candidates, consider. Suppose this is true. Here is a guy who has raised $85 million for Parkinson’s research that affects him and millions of others. So his commitment to the cause of finding a cure for this disease surely cannot be challenged. If he offers of his time and name recognition to influence elections so that stem cell research might be funded, how in all the world can you find some evil or political motive in doing this? But the premises of these ridiculous arguments are twice wrong: (1) Fox has supported both dems and reps who favor funding for stem cell research, and (2) experts on Parkinson’s have testified that the tremors exhibited by Fox in the ad are a CONSEQUENCE of his being on the meds, rather than a byproduct of NOT taking the meds so as to make a dramatic impact on the ad. Guys, Fox is not acting, WYSIWYG. I know it’s impossible for you on the right, the Limbaugh types, to accept it, but there are REAL ISSUES out there affecting everybody in this country. If an election is not the time to bring up such issues by way of comparing and constrasting the candidates on views of such matters, then when shall such dialog take place? You support Limbaugh and the president on this issue, so bring forward to the table arguments to support your views, rather than grammar-school-level attacks of those who try, in good faith, to bring them to the attention of the electorate: but in full knowledge that such views are held by a quite small minority of the population.
October 28th, 2006 at 6:45 pmIf MJF hadn’t taken his medication, he would have been stiff and wooden unable to speak.
October 29th, 2006 at 7:06 am“#18 I never said stem cell research did not show promises. I simply point out the fact that embryonic stem cell research shows the least promises. The left loves to say the right is against stem cell research and that is a lie. Big F-ing LIE. They are against Embryonic Stem Cell research. So every time you leave out that one key word you are lying. I personally don’t care. If embryonic show promises then I say go for it!”
Look Cartman, you just said it yourself. Last sentence.
“I just point out the way you people twist the truth like good little Democratic soldiers towing the party line and speaking the talking pints.”
Even if this WAS on purpose, can’t really blame them for learning from the masters of spin can you?
“#21 Good job. I love it when you talk like that. Shows you are unarmed in a battle of wits.”
Yeah because you DONT wanna make this a battle of facts ;) That’d be reaaaal bad.
“To the rest, I don’t care about Rush. Sometimes he speaks the truth and sometimes he is a blow-hard. You people hate him because he speaks his mind. It does not match your thoughts and he gets the highest ratings. (Unlike AAR) So of course you want to silence him because the only free speech the libs believe in is their own.”
The truth (1.3% of the time, about dogs and the weather)
Lies (98.7% of the time about war, corruption, murder and slavery)
“I win – have a good weekend – ROTFL”
What do you win in a battle of wits? The same thing as you win in a war on a noun?
You seem to express the same behaviour as socially dysfunct minors do sometimes. Have you no friends?
October 29th, 2006 at 1:51 pmjust wondering, where’s the simpering piece of shit named Arlen Specter(chickenshit-PA). Does the a-hole have the decency to defend Michale J. Fox or has the coward essentially cowered and run to defense of the Repub party?
October 29th, 2006 at 11:00 pmAfter hearing about Rush Limbaugh’s attack on how Michael J. Fox’s tremors were an ‘act’ on Parkinson’s, I felt the need to vent. I took part in the Unity Walk this past April in honor of my uncle, where Michael J. Fox was a guest speaker. His tremors were as they were on television. My uncle’s tremors are just as bad, if not worse, from all of the experimental surgeries and treatments he has gone through (and my uncle is NOT an actor). To date, THERE IS NO CURE, and it’s a fast paced, debilitating disease. Maybe Rush Limbaugh should EDUCATE himself about this disease before he sets out to voice his inappropriate mockery of something he obviously knows nothing about. Rush Limbaugh, instead of making an ill attempt at calling out Michael J. Fox on his ‘acting’, made himself look uneducated and ignorant about a well-publicized disease.
October 29th, 2006 at 11:29 pm[...] On faking serious illnesses in order to gain votes, Michael J. Fox was accused of ‘faking it’ by Rush Limbaugh (a Republican puppet) and called to account this week: Citing Limbaugh, Fox 31 misled on Michael J. Fox stem cell ad, with a video riposte. Limbaugh was trashed in the media – in Limbaugh Outfoxed, the Washington Post the quote ran: [...]
October 30th, 2006 at 12:15 am[...] Well, first thing, he used the word victim. And on another occasion I heard him use the word pitiable. And understand, nobody in this position wants pity. We don ’t want pity. I could give a damn about Rush Limbaugh’s pity or anyone else’s pity. I’m not a victim. I’m someone who is in this situation. I think I’m in this situation along with millionsread more | digg story Links [...]
October 30th, 2006 at 6:55 amThe vitriol spouted on this page is pathetic, and completely shows that liberal-minded people are rarely operating on facts – scientific, political, or otherwise.
Regardless of what Rush Limbaugh said or did, the FACTS are that Mr. Fox made a very misleading ad. NONE of the Republicans in the states where the ad has run are against “stem cell research” – what they ARE against is EMBRYONIC stem cell research. And that is for very good scientific, medically factual reasons – ADULT stem cells offer promise (and Fox’s own group is backing this research), while embryonic research shows NO promise – only made up, political claims. The ad is even more disturbing and misleading in MO where there isn’t even a stem cell initiative on the ballot. They are voting on CLONING. In the poltical arena, there is almost no stem cell truth. So if you hear that one candidate doesn’t support “stem cell” research – look a little deeper: http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS06H01&f=WX05F02
October 30th, 2006 at 1:00 pmJennifer, If you had actually listened to Limbaugh you would know that he apologized for the accusation. Oh, and Mr. Fox has admitted that he has gone off his meds in the past so his tremors would be on full display when he spoke to congress.
Limbaugh has also provided evidence that Embryonic Stem Cell research is a total bust. The private research done on it has produced no results at all. Adult stem cell research has provided results in 72 seperate diseases.
Fox turned his disease into a political issue by implying that cures are right around the dorner if only certain politicians would get out of the way and let science destroy viable embryos. The evidence suggests this would ammount to nothing but a lot of destroyed embryos.
Jennifer, you need to educate yourself on the issue.
October 30th, 2006 at 4:59 pmits funny how all these nutty rightees all of a sudden become doctors that
November 1st, 2006 at 3:01 pmcan diagnose diseases just by looking at someone.remember frist and
schiavo?bottom line is,30 percent of this country is a bunch of dead from
the neck up jerks,and limpballs is their king.the democrats have to stay
organized and beat these assholes come election day.and will somebody
please shove a sock into kerrys mouth,even though i know he was
calling bush a rodeo clown…….
like fox, i too have a problem called als. i think the rightous christians are being used. i think the real hidden enemy is the drug companies, who would rather have controls for med problems rather than cures. stem cell medicine could set the sick free and this would not due.
November 2nd, 2006 at 5:06 amWhat does Rush Limbaugh know about embryonic stem cell research anyway? that overweight moron.
November 2nd, 2006 at 10:24 pmThis is ludacris. Michael J. Fox has been entertaining the world for 30 years or more. Not once in his entire career has he done anything to upset anybody or talk bad on anyone. He is loved, respected, and adored by millions of Americans around the world. We all know that Rush Limbaugh is a jerk. But for him to verbally attack Michael J. Fox for standing up for what he believes in downright wrong. And for Rush to have the unmittigated audacity to mock a man, America’s favorite tv son at that, with a degenerative progressive neurological disorder that is slowly and painfully taking his life from him, shows that Rush is a very sad person. How low can you sink to attack someone that has done nothing to you? But hey, that’s karma. What goes around comes around. I’m with Michael J. Fox.
November 3rd, 2006 at 10:39 pmHUH?! Y THE HECK DOES HE SHAKE?? does he have a problem or something, the loser
November 4th, 2006 at 3:01 pmDoes “he” refer to Michael J. Fox or Rush Limbaugh, Nat? If you’re calling Fox a loser, it seems you have a problem. C’mon, give me a break! Didn’t you see how bad it was the way Rush Limbaugh was insulting Michael J. Fox? How would you feel if you had a debilitating neurological disorder, and somebody mocked at you this way? You need to learn to put yourself in others’ shoes once in awhile. It isn’t good to be insensitive to the feelings of others. I know you might think I’m a bit too sentimental, but just think about it dude…
November 5th, 2006 at 11:49 amMy apologies… This may not be the right place for this, but after digging around the net for days for a way to get in touch with you, M.J.F…. here I am.
I was diagnosed with Esophageal Adeno Carcinoma in Nov 2003… when the 1-year post surgery survival rate was 1 in 5…. and the 5-year survival rate was 1 in 5 of those 20%.
Sooo…. what is my point? I still live, and so do you! But if a human embryo had bee sacrificed (or cloned) to extend my life, I would have refused up front.
I love your work, in movies and TV, and some fine day we should hug. But the difference is that I will never ask that another potential human be sacrificed so that I might live a few more years…
;D
November 5th, 2006 at 7:49 pmNov. 7 is tomorrow.
( Smiles )
November 6th, 2006 at 4:43 pmJms, look I’m sorry for what you’ve got but people don’t listen. Yall need to understand this isn’t abortion. A human life is not being sacrificed. 400,000 embryonic stem cells are being THROWN AWAY every year. What Michael J. Fox and others that support this cause are trying to say is, instead of just wasting these cells, why not use them for research to possibly cure diseases like Parkinson’s and other neurological disorders. Everyone is bitching at this poor man calling him a child killer when all he’s trying to do is make some sense out of the situation. Ok, so, lets say that the fight to do stem cell research is lost. What’s going to happen to those poor defensless stem cells that could potentially become life? The same thing that’s been happeneing for the past 20 years. They’ll continue to be thrown away. So, what makes more sense. Use these cells to help cure diseases like Parkinson’s and other neurological disorders that millions of Americans suffer from today, or simply throw them away? I don’t know, think about it. If these cells could become life, do you think they would be throwing them away? No. But obviously these cells are incapable of becoming a human life so that’s why they’re being ditched.
November 6th, 2006 at 10:36 pmFela, we aren’t so far away from each other… But I just have to ask a few questions…
Who will set the standard?
This cell looks promising, but is to be thrown away, so we can (in your words) clone it… no problem there, I guess. Okay, it might have become a person who I might have had a conversation with, had science not got involved in the first place.
… And that cell looks great, but it might cost $100,000 to get hold of it for our completely benevolent research, of course. Oh, wait… it is growing in an under-priviliged human succeptible to an offer of money. What shall we do?
Love you Fela…. et all, but still unable to talk directly to MJF.
November 7th, 2006 at 12:15 am;D
Jms, sweetheart, think about this. Let’s say you work for science. You are one of the hundreds of scientists that are throwing away these cells. Now, are you trying to tell me that you would rather throw away a cell that could potentially save yours and Michael J. Fox’s life, or use that cell to save you guys’ life? You can have the chance to live longer and happiers days without pain. Live long enough to dance at you childrens weddings, or experiance life the way you were meant to. Can I ask you a question or two? First of all how old are you, not trying to be ignorant, and second, what is the disease that you have. As in how is this debiliating illness crippling you? I never heard of the disease.
November 8th, 2006 at 5:52 pmAnother thing Jms, what did you mean by we aren’t so far away from each-other?
November 8th, 2006 at 5:53 pmI have decided to replace my hoola dancer in my back car window with a Michael J. Fox doll and watch it shake. Strange how he didn’t shake just a few weeks back on “Boston Legal”. What a phoney!!!!!!!
November 9th, 2006 at 10:22 pmDiane learn about how it effects different parts of the body at different times. You know read a bit, besides its tv they can hide the effects, example Andy Griffith, Floyd the barber was dehabilitated most of the end seasons up till he died, bet you never noticed did you? As far as Rush goes hes the expert on drugs, How soon we forget his doctor shopping and crying to the Judge. that was real guinie? LOL Diane thinks Boston Legal is done in one cut and based on real cases.
November 10th, 2006 at 2:13 am
I decied to replace my Run Away Bride Bobble Head doll, with some more empty headed, Diane
November 10th, 2006 at 2:17 amI am stunned. I have not seen Michael J Fox in any film footage since he was in Spin City, and I had NO idea his illness had progressed so radically. Republican, Democrat – who cares? They are both tag team partners for the management organisation of slavery incorporated (Alex Jones infowars.com). Anyone with an ounce of compassion would not dare broach such a nasty suspicion unless their intent was malevolent – or they were desperate to hustle ratings by bashing one of the world’s more famous disabled persons. Let’s face it; no punter’s gonna get much mileage out of Stephen Hawking with similar allegations – but the moral imperative is the same.
Limbaugh; I turned you off long ago. You continue to make me feel like puking, you Oxycontin-chomping MORON (Alex Jones infowars.com). Any human with a shred of decency may find themselves thinking such a thing, but it takes a moral leper to voice them in such a broad public arena.
Take a few extra Oxycontin packs tonight, Rush – knock yourself out. Permanently – preferably.
December 23rd, 2006 at 5:22 amwe won the ashes!! in your face poms! i love Back to the future
December 29th, 2006 at 1:08 amFirst let me say that it has taken me since last Oct. to get the stamina to write anyone to coment on the comment made by Rush Limbaugh about Michale J. Fox and Parkinson’s. I just want to say that I pray that Mr. Limbaugh never is diagnosed with Parkinson’s. Just when Mr. Limbaugh made his coments about Mr. Fox. My husband was diagnosed with Parkinson ism last Oct. It sent me into a tailspin. My husband is in Chronic Kidney failure and has had Heart by-pass surgery about 14 years ago. I feel that my husband and I have been on al roller coaster ride ever since. I am trying to glean any and all info re: Parkinson’s so I can help my husband. Thank you to Mr. Michale J. Fox for all he is doing for Parkinson’s and for the people who have it. It is really encouraging. Sincerely Mr. and Mrs. Robert Lindemann, Stayton, Or.
February 5th, 2007 at 1:35 pm