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]]> By: NickelNuts.com » Blog Archive » Things that Make Me Nervous,… http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/comment-page-3/#comment-1051221 NickelNuts.com » Blog Archive » Things that Make Me Nervous,… Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:39:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/#comment-1051221 [...] When top military commanders start to get pissed off at the administration.  This first quote shows me that the Gen’s are setting the stage, via ThinkProgress: Last night on the NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, columnist Mark Shields revealed that one of the “highest ranking men” in the military has recommended removing all U.S. troops from Baghdad. Here’s the key excerpt:  “The highest ranking or certainly one of the highest ranking men in the United States military today has recommended that we remove all troops from Baghdad, all American troops from Baghdad…All of the troops out of Baghdad, secure the road to the airport, secure the oil fields and the borders, and say that the pacification and the maintaining of order in Baghdad is the responsibility of the Iraqis. That is the recommendation of probably one of the most — probably the most respected man in uniform today.” [...] [...] When top military commanders start to get pissed off at the administration.  This first quote shows me that the Gen’s are setting the stage, via ThinkProgress: Last night on the NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, columnist Mark Shields revealed that one of the “highest ranking men” in the military has recommended removing all U.S. troops from Baghdad. Here’s the key excerpt:  “The highest ranking or certainly one of the highest ranking men in the United States military today has recommended that we remove all troops from Baghdad, all American troops from Baghdad…All of the troops out of Baghdad, secure the road to the airport, secure the oil fields and the borders, and say that the pacification and the maintaining of order in Baghdad is the responsibility of the Iraqis. That is the recommendation of probably one of the most — probably the most respected man in uniform today.” [...]

]]> By: Bob Craig http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/comment-page-3/#comment-1050902 Bob Craig Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:59:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/#comment-1050902 It is beyond me how so many can be fooled day after day by Bush and his gang. I have friends that call themselves Christians and conservatives but I often doubt their brainpower in this area when they continually hide their heads in the sand and cannot discern good from evil. This administration is to use the term, 'wolves in sheeps clothing".To convince people how good they are, all they have to do is use the "anti abortion" and "anti gay marriage" slogans and Bush and gang can convince many they are "good". This is one of the most evil administrations to come along in many years. It is beyond me how so many can be fooled day after day
by Bush and his gang. I have friends that call themselves
Christians and conservatives but I often doubt their brainpower
in this area when they continually hide their heads in the sand
and cannot discern good from evil. This administration is
to use the term, ‘wolves in sheeps clothing”.To convince people
how good they are, all they have to do is use the “anti abortion”
and “anti gay marriage” slogans and Bush and gang can convince
many they are “good”. This is one of the most evil administrations
to come along in many years.

]]> By: suds http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/comment-page-3/#comment-1050393 suds Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:44:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/#comment-1050393 I find it incredible that people think "we didn't do those things". In a republic, "we" elected our leader--or, if we didn't and the election was a sham---we still supported that leadership for 6 years and did nothing to reign him in. Of course "we" did it and as the nation responsible for Gitmo, pre-emptive warfare, changing the rules the whole way to placate our fearless , foolish leader we are most certainly responsible. Our Constitution, if we care about it at all, provides the forms of redress. The first obligation is to vote. And if the vote is considered suspect, we take it to our LOCAL officials and push all the way back to the top at the state and federal levels. And in the course of that, we call for impeachment. The States can call for action. It only takes two to call for impeachment. But what we do not have the right to do is shirt responsibility for the foolhardy way we have allowed our country to be run. This president was ENABLED by people who tacitly agreed the whole way. I have and always will reserve my anger for those moderates --the moderate Christians who were cowed too much to speak out against their fundamentalist bretheren and the moderate Republicans and Democrats who somehow thought it was okay to be a "values voter" and hide behind a "conservative" label to avoid being held to a higher standard. Bastards all. I find it incredible that people think “we didn’t do those things”. In a republic, “we” elected our leader–or, if we didn’t and the election was a sham—we still supported that leadership for 6 years and did nothing to reign him in. Of course “we” did it and as the nation responsible for Gitmo, pre-emptive warfare, changing the rules the whole way to placate our fearless , foolish leader we are most certainly responsible.

Our Constitution, if we care about it at all, provides the forms of redress. The first obligation is to vote. And if the vote is considered suspect, we take it to our LOCAL officials and push all the way back to the top at the state and federal levels. And in the course of that, we call for impeachment. The States can call for action. It only takes two to call for impeachment.

But what we do not have the right to do is shirt responsibility for the foolhardy way we have allowed our country to be run. This president was ENABLED by people who tacitly agreed the whole way. I have and always will reserve my anger for those moderates –the moderate Christians who were cowed too much to speak out against their fundamentalist bretheren and the moderate Republicans and Democrats who somehow thought it was okay to be a “values voter” and hide behind a “conservative” label to avoid being held to a higher standard. Bastards all.

]]> By: Rose Elvern http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/comment-page-3/#comment-1049402 Rose Elvern Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:17:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/#comment-1049402 I agree with you, May. I emailed and wrote countless times to the media to cover the massive Election Fraud in 2004 as reported day by day by The Green Party Recount site and the report that Rep. John Conyers did of the HEaring he did in Ohio but the news is getting out despite the corporately owned media on the Revolt of the Generals. I agree with you, May. I emailed and wrote countless times to the media to cover the massive Election Fraud in 2004 as reported day by day by The Green Party Recount site and the report that Rep. John Conyers did of the HEaring he did in Ohio but the news is getting out despite the corporately owned media on the Revolt of the Generals.

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]]> By: G.+Anton http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/comment-page-2/#comment-1047413 G.+Anton Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:14:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/#comment-1047413 Does anyone out there remember Stanly Kubrick's classic horror flick "The Shining"? If so, do you remember the scene where Jack Nicholson embraced and kissed the naked and very beautiful young lady with sex on his mind, only to see, on getting a better look at her, that she was an horribly ugly, ancient, and nauseating repulsive old lady? Doesn't this scene remind you of the 37% of American voters that are still enamored with King George the Turd and Shotgun Cheney? Does anyone out there remember Stanly Kubrick’s classic horror flick “The Shining”? If so, do you remember the scene where Jack Nicholson embraced and kissed the naked and very beautiful young lady with sex on his mind, only to see, on getting a better look at her, that she was an horribly ugly, ancient, and nauseating repulsive old lady? Doesn’t this scene remind you of the 37% of American voters that are still enamored with King George the Turd and Shotgun Cheney?

]]> By: Alexander http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/comment-page-2/#comment-1047154 Alexander Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:26:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/#comment-1047154 From the <em>Princess Bride</em> Vizzini: You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia . . . From the Princess Bride

Vizzini: You only think I guessed wrong! That’s what’s so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia . . .

]]> By: doug http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/comment-page-2/#comment-1046099 doug Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:27:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/#comment-1046099 Well you people seem to be getting down to work. It is time for me to go to bed now. I'm on China time. "Unbelievable" we will all work together on the solutions. Good posts. Well you people seem to be getting down to work. It is time for me to go to bed now. I’m on China time.

“Unbelievable” we will all work together on the solutions. Good posts.

]]> By: doug http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/comment-page-2/#comment-1046061 doug Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:15:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/#comment-1046061 katy: I am back. unbelievable You say, "Why take from the poor and indigent?" and "Use the [Iraqi] oil to rebuild Iraq." Is there a contradiction in these two positions. Compared to Americans right now Iraqis are the poor and indegent group. Besides, this was the stance Bush used to cojole Americans into supporting the war. In effect he was saying you can get away with theft and murder at no cost to you and the booty is all yours (he ment his). It seems to me this is an underlying unspoken part of the American People's logic for supporting Bushco. It is an ugly skeleton in your close. I think the disposition of the Iraqi's oil and the money from it should be left up to the Iraqi People to decide. America has no moral authority going there. unbelievable "Let Haliburton step up and pay for this mess." I support the spirit of what you say here but I would go further. I would call for the dismantelling of all Bushco holdings and have them all given to the USA. The American People can then decide how to distribute them. Some of the money may go to Iraq and some to New Orleans, some to the wounded service men, and some to the poor and indegent. But I hold to my original idea that you seem to be refuting. America must take responsibility for the destruction of Iraq and pay reparations. It is like other American problems such as the number of people in America's prisons, the lower economic standing of Blacks, Native Americans, and Hispanics in American society. Turning your gaze somewhere else does not make it go away. Let me reassure you that I do not think carrying around a big cross of guilt on your back helps one bit. I am just calling for a generous and workable approach to the common humanity of us all. Sharon Cox I don't believe or not believe that Bushco will have their comeuppance but I do believe that you and yours have the power to chase them to the ends of the earth in trying to make it happen. I would encourage people to make a commitment to make the scoundrels pay. katy:
I am back.

unbelievable
You say, “Why take from the poor and indigent?”

and

“Use the [Iraqi] oil to rebuild Iraq.”

Is there a contradiction in these two positions. Compared to Americans right now Iraqis are the poor and indegent group.

Besides, this was the stance Bush used to cojole Americans into supporting the war. In effect he was saying you can get away with theft and murder at no cost to you and the booty is all yours (he ment his). It seems to me this is an underlying unspoken part of the American People’s logic for supporting Bushco. It is an ugly skeleton in your close. I think the disposition of the Iraqi’s oil and the money from it should be left up to the Iraqi People to decide. America has no moral authority going there.

unbelievable
“Let Haliburton step up and pay for this mess.”

I support the spirit of what you say here but I would go further. I would call for the dismantelling of all Bushco holdings and have them all given to the USA. The American People can then decide how to distribute them. Some of the money may go to Iraq and some to New Orleans, some to the wounded service men, and some to the poor and indegent.

But I hold to my original idea that you seem to be refuting. America must take responsibility for the destruction of Iraq and pay reparations. It is like other American problems such as the number of people in America’s prisons, the lower economic standing of Blacks, Native Americans, and Hispanics in American society. Turning your gaze somewhere else does not make it go away.

Let me reassure you that I do not think carrying around a big cross of guilt on your back helps one bit. I am just calling for a generous and workable approach to the common humanity of us all.

Sharon Cox
I don’t believe or not believe that Bushco will have their comeuppance but I do believe that you and yours have the power to chase them to the ends of the earth in trying to make it happen.

I would encourage people to make a commitment to make the scoundrels pay.

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/comment-page-2/#comment-1046017 unbelievable Sun, 29 Oct 2006 15:51:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/28/withdraw-all-troops-baghdad/#comment-1046017 <em>There should be an Iraq Tax on the top 1 percent of the wealthiest in America who have benefited from the Bush administration’s insane “tax cuts for the rich in the time of war” policy. Comment by The Oracle — October 28, 2006 @ 6:21 pm</em> That would be nice. I just think it won't happen, because those are the people who own our politicians who would create such a tax... If Nancy Pelosi won't seek to impeach Bush, I can't imagine she'll seek to tax him either. The Dems are just the other side of the same gold coin. I don't trust them to do what's right either. There should be an Iraq Tax on the top 1 percent of the wealthiest in America who have benefited from the Bush administration’s insane “tax cuts for the rich in the time of war” policy.
Comment by The Oracle — October 28, 2006 @ 6:21 pm

That would be nice. I just think it won’t happen, because those are the people who own our politicians who would create such a tax…

If Nancy Pelosi won’t seek to impeach Bush, I can’t imagine she’ll seek to tax him either. The Dems are just the other side of the same gold coin. I don’t trust them to do what’s right either.

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