Kerry Says ‘I’m Sorry’ on MSNBC, Snow Still Claiming He Hasn’t Apologized
Kerry Says ‘I’m Sorry’ on MSNBC, Snow Still Claiming He Hasn’t Apologized
This morning on MSNBC, Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) apologized for his comments on Monday. “Of course I’m sorry for the botched joke,” he said, calling his comments “pretty stupid.” Watch it:
About hour later, Tony Snow said the following on CNBC:
All you have to do is say, I apologize. I said something, it came out wrong, I’m sorry. And instead, what Sen. Kerry has done, is he’s tried to whip it into a big thing…
That’s exactly what Kerry has said. According to the White House, the story is over.
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Transcript:
IMUS: It was my inclination to try to defend you in this, and I said, I think I know what he meant, I mean it’s clear what he meant. But I had to acknowledge in my conversation with Charles that that’s not what you said.
KERRY: Of course it isn’t what I said. I left out one word, I left out the word us. They got us stuck. Instead of that, I said they got stuck. And they’re taking advantage of it. And here’s what’s wrong.
IMUS: Why not apologize for the misunderstanding?
KERRY: I did, I said it was a botched joke, of course I’m sorry about a botched joke. You think I love botched jokes? It’s pretty stupid.
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No air, no fire.
Sorry Ben and Jason; you can now put the pitchforks away.
November 1st, 2006 at 10:57 amActually, no Tony you have whipped this into a big thing. In doing that you have brought the war front and center before the election. Just a shining example of republican efficiency and ability, are you having any second thoughts on theat?
November 1st, 2006 at 10:59 amAnd now who looks stupid for trying to spin political gold from bullshit, eh, you two?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:00 amImus is a racist old sack of crap.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:00 amTo be fair to Snowjob, he probably doesn’t know what Kerry said because it wasn’t on Fox News.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:03 amI don’t get it. Kerry calls the President stupid for getting our troops stuck in Iraq on a lie. And somehow Kerry should apologize to the troops? What world did I wake up to the morning? Where’s Rod Serling?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:04 amJason? Where are you? Ben…Ben?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:05 amKerry is still sticking with that laughable “botched joke” explanation??? Wow. No one is buying it, Joh, You insulted the troops..Now, for once in your life, do the honorable thing and apologize for your disgusting comments about our troops.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:07 amI t probably would help to read what Kerry ha to say IN FULL about his fluffed “joke”.
“This president and his administration didn’t do their homework,” Kerry said. “They didn’t study what would happen in Iraq. They didn’t study and listen to the people who were the experts and would have told them. And they know that’s what I was talking about yesterday.”
“I think Americans are sick and tired of this game. These Republicans are afraid to stand up and debate a real veteran on this topic. And they’re afraid to debate — you know, they want to debate strawmen because they’re afraid to debate real men. Well, we’re going to have a real debate in this country about this policy. The bottom line is: These Republicans want to distort this policy. And, this time, it won’t work because we are going to stay in their face with the truth. No Democrat is going to be bullied by these people, by these kinds of attacks that have no place in American politics. It’s time to set our policy correct. They have a stand-still-and-lose policy in Iraq, and they have a cut-and-run policy in Afghanistan. And the fact is, our troops, who have served heroically, who deserve better, deserve leadership that is up to their sacrifice — period.”
“John McCain ought to ask for an apology from Dick Cheney for misleading America. He ought to ask for an apology from the president for lying about the nuclear program in Africa. He ought to ask for an apology for once again a week ago referring to al-Qaida as being the central problem in Iraq, when al-Qaida is not the central problem. Enough is enough. I’m not going to stand for these people trying to shift the topic and make it politics. America deserves a real discussion about real policy. And that’s what this election is going to be about next Tuesday.”
Let’s end this discussion and go throw these fascist phonies out…
November 1st, 2006 at 11:08 amTony Snow is a liar, right? Yes, yes he is.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:08 amI read the entire speech Kerry made before the slip up and agree that he was trying to make a jab at Bush but slipped up. But lets take a deeper look at this subject.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:08 amNobody would dare say this in a public arena, especially during an election season, but if we get down to brass tacks, the harsh reality is that the vast majority of our men & women in the armed forces ARE indeed less educated an/or from a lower socioeconomic strata than the average U.S. citizen. I’m not questioning that there are a great many of them who serve out of a sense of duty and patriotism, but if you look at the statistical breakdown of the casualties in Iraq you will see what I mean.
Its hard to argue that the ranks of the armed forces are not being filled with less educated people when you consider the drastic reduction in standards our recruiters are now using to fill the quotas.
Its an unpopular thought, and I’m sure a slip-up, but what he said is probably pretty accurate.
Are you that daft, Larry+from+C?
Kerry insulted the troops, period. He did not call the president by name or inference. There is no way you can infer from the remarks Kerry made other than that Kerry insulted the military directly. Any other interpretation lands YOU a role on the Twilight Zone….
November 1st, 2006 at 11:08 amSeeing how Kerry made his staements on Monday and it is now Wednesday and how he has been thoroughly beaten up by his own party makes his apology a joke and you guys a bigger joke.
ROTFL….you guys have got to be the biggest dumbasses I have ever seen. No wonder you keep losing.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:10 amKerry is an idiot. That’s why he lost. And now every U.S. Service member knows just how he feels about them.
He didn’t botch a joke, I think he said, just what he meant to say, and we understood it exactly for what it was.
6 more days till the lawsuits and court orders begin!
November 1st, 2006 at 11:10 amspin spin spin
I heard what Kerry said. What I toook him to mean is that if you are poor you have a few choices: remain working poor, go to college, or join the military and get stuck in Iraq. Of course, this is true for the enlisted. All the ‘conservative’ radio and TV pundits bring up all the graduates and students of the elite military academies who become officers. To be an officer it’s just about mandatory that you have a degree. But with the enlisted, who are the majority of troops over there, you can get an education, or join the military and get stuck in Iraq.
That’s what Kerry was talking about.
Now Kerry wants to backtrack and say he was talking about Bush. It’s obvious that he wasn’t.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:11 amSen. Kerry said “I’m sorry about a bothced joke! you think I enjoy botched jokes?”
Wow, and here the right-whiners are trying to spin this because it’s the only thing they’ve got on their side: spin and more spin.
Well, enjoy your spin as you go down the drain!
Speaker Pelosi will save us
November 1st, 2006 at 11:11 amexley, Mr.Kerry did apologize. Isn’t that what all the hoopla is all about.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:11 amAs for doing an honorable thing once in his life,
If I’m correct, he did serve in Vietnam, right? That’s not honorable?
He spoke out against atrocities, and that’s not honorable?
#2 — you actually think bringing the war front and center and insulting the military is a winning strategy for the Dems? Good luck with that.
And answer me this: why are Dems running for office canceling appearances with Kerry if this is playing to the Dems advantage?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:11 amOn the previous thread I posted:
For the record and the discussion, here are Kerry’s written remarks and what he actually verbalized. Both are clearly a dig against Bush, not the Armed Forces.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13018908/
November 1st, 2006 at 11:12 am#15 - So what you’re saying is that what YOU say Sen. Kerry said is what he really said?
OK, Sen. Allen, why did you call black people “monekys”? We heard you say it, and what WE say you said is what you said! The standard has been approved by Doug!
November 1st, 2006 at 11:12 amIt is amazing how every time a Democrat states an opinion he/she has to apologize for it. What complete wimps! Kerry just demonstrated his cowardness.
I can’t stand it anymore!!! Both parties suck. Vote Green! for real change and a party with backbone.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:12 am# 15 Douglas, you are right about one thing.
6 days till the subpeonas and investigations begin. We recommend Ice for the ass woopin you shal receive.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:13 amWho cares? Kerry isn’t running for anything this year. How does this help Republican candidates get their message out in this last week?
Vote for me because John Kerry said something either stupid or badly!
I don’t get it. It might hurt Kerry if he runs again but that’s it. Otherwise it’s a waste of a news cycle for trailing candidates.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:13 amI watched the vid on Olbermann. Kerry was refering to bush as STUPID,clearly, but the way he said it was confusing.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:13 amWho cares? Kerry isn’t running for anything this year. How does this help Republican candidates get their message out in this last week?
Vote for me because John Kerry said something either stupid or badly!
I don’t get it. It might hurt Kerry if he runs again but that’s it. Otherwise it’s a waste of a news cycle for trailing candidates.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:14 amExley + Ben…
One week from right now, please come back and take your medicine after the Dems have taken back some of the GOP’s absolute power.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:14 amA trip in the way-back machine to March 2004….
At a black-tie dinner for journalists, Mr Bush narrated a slide show poking fun at himself and other members of his administration.
One pictured Mr Bush looking under a piece of furniture in the Oval Office, at which the president remarked: “Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be here somewhere.”
After another one, showing him scouring the corner of a room, Mr Bush said: “No, no weapons over there,” he said.
And as a third picture, this time showing him leaning over, appeared on the screen the president was heard to say: “Maybe under here?”
Now back to Nov 06……
Did Bush or his staff apologize for this disgusting joke?
Time magazine’s Joe Klein was dismissive: “Look, this is going to be a long, ugly election year. And I think the president should be allowed to have a little humor…And, you know, it doesn’t upset me overly much”..
Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace, after admitting that “I must say, I still think it’s funny,”
Fox News anchor Brit Hume concluded: “I thought it was a good-natured performance, and it made him look good only in the sense that it showed he could poke fun at himself…. And you have to feel like saying to people, ‘Just get over it.’”
Fellow Fox pundit and NPR correspondent Juan Williams agreed: “I was sitting there at a table where everybody was laughing. I think you were at the same table, Chris…. So I think people are petty in the situation. I just think it’s evidence that it’s a political season.”
Panelist Ceci Connolly of the Washington Post offered praise for Bush’s comedic gifts: “You know, trying to be funny at these things is so difficult, and he is quite good at it. I mean, he really is very good at self-deprecating humor. The pictures were funny. I laughed at the photos. I mean, he looks goofy, and he’s got that great deadpan delivery.”
The Los Angeles Times penned an editorial in his defense (3/27/04) headlined “Commander in Comedy.” The paper noted that “presidents have always used self-deprecation to deflect criticism,” then lamented the fact that “Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe and other Democrats are acting like laughs should be banned from serious politics.”
So I ask you again, why can’t Kerry make fun of Bush’s stupidity if Bush is allowed to make fun of not finding the WMD he assured us were there?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:14 amPolitics in America is depressing.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:14 amTHE RIGHT NITPIKS WORDS LIKE A BUNCH OF GIRLS WHILE I DRINK HALIBURTON FECAL WATER and RIDE IN AN UNARMORED VEHICLE.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:15 amThe National Commander of The American Legion called on Sen. John Kerry to apologize for suggesting that American troops in Iraq are uneducated.
“As a constituent of Senator Kerry’s I am disappointed. As leader of The American Legion, I am outraged,†said National Commander Paul A. Morin. “A generation ago, Sen. Kerry slandered his comrades in Vietnam by saying that they were rapists and murderers. It wasn’t true then and his warped view of today’s heroes isn’t true now.â€
ROTFL
November 1st, 2006 at 11:15 am#6 - Larry - Obviously you missed the signpost back in 2000. You guys have been living in my Twilight Zone since then. Or maybe the Bizarro World. I can’t decide.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:15 am#18:
Only if you tell me why many Republicans running for re-election don’t want to be seen next to Bush and why other Republicans aren’t even using the word ‘Republican’ in their advertisements or on their websites.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:16 amThe Right just can’t talk failed policy. THE END.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:17 amWhy can’t John Kerry say: “I am sorry for insulting our fighting men and women in Iraq. I didn’t intend to make such a statement, but that is how it came out, and I am sorry.”
To say, “Sorry, that I botched a joke.” is NOT an apology, so this story will go on and on and on and on - which is fine by me, because it hurts Dems.
David Gergen put it best - “John Kerry’s big ego is the problem here, and he should just apologize.”
November 1st, 2006 at 11:17 amKerry is still sticking with that laughable “botched joke†explanation???
Sigh. Another victim of the clipped quote. They did it to you in 2004 and they’re doing it to you again.
Or maybe you just like being someone else’s bitch?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:18 am.
Exley: Like so many other half baked half brained Neo-Con-Poops, you have no idea of what your talking about when you use words like Honorable.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:19 am#27…Bobcat….Oh, I’ll be here. I make no predictions that the GOP will retain the House and Senate nor that the Kerry gaffe will turn the tide.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:20 amAnd answer me this: why are Dems running for office canceling appearances with Kerry if this is playing to the Dems advantage?
Because it’s the fastest way to smother the Republicans’ deformed lie in its crib.
Sad little thing. Never had a chance.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:21 am.
Larry from C
November 1st, 2006 at 11:21 amYou bring up a great point. What is more discouraging for our troops, botching up a joke about Bush’s failed policy, or chimpishly looking for WMD under your desk while thousands of our brave men and women were dying?
#33 — Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Bush’s televised reaction to Kerry last night at a rally for a Repub candidate?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:22 amjeez… who called out the ignorant trolls? …ah well… they find us anyway…
this is for the trolls (hope it’s ok if i repost it):
THE RIGHT NITPIKS WORDS LIKE A BUNCH OF GIRLS WHILE I DRINK HALIBURTON FECAL WATER and RIDE IN AN UNARMORED VEHICLE.
Comment by a soldier — November 1, 2006 @ 11:15 am
thank you, soldier…
November 1st, 2006 at 11:22 am.
funny, the first apology from Kerry? what class. Haven’t heard an apology for 500 thousand dead from bushit.
what are we?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:22 amWhat did Kerry appoligize for? Is he saying that he was actually making fun of the soldiers?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:22 amUh, Jason? Read the top of the page. Kerry apologized for what he did, not for what you need him to have done to distract from the failure of Republican policy.
Looks like you’ll have to make your own case, which means you’re screwed.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:22 am.
Ben, Ray, Jason, Exley,
November 1st, 2006 at 11:23 amDon’t forget to vote on November 8th!
David Gergen put it best - “John Kerry’s big ego is the problem here, and he should just apologize.â€
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
And he also said the story wouldn’t effect races - but I guess you missed that part. GOP pollster Mathew Dowd also said it wouldn’t affect any races negatively for the dems. But spin away.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:23 amSigh…
* Spending $338.9 billion dollars on a unwinnable war
* Sacrificing 2816 dead and 21,077 wounded American soldiers
* Between 45,000 to 50,000 reported Iraqi casulties
Yup. John Kerry’s bad joke is more important than all of the above.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:24 amKerry Being Sent To Time Out For Duration Of Campaign Season…
Too funny… WASHINGTON (AFP) - US Senator John Kerry said he is pulling back from campaigning ahead of next week's midterm elections to avoid the continued distraction created by his remarks that Americans who neglect their education woul…
November 1st, 2006 at 11:24 amSpeaking of apologies, still waiting to hear one from Rush. If Rush’s nonapology apology is good enough for the trolls, then Kerry’s apology should be acceptable as well. But we all know that they want nothing short of total justification and vindication for their skewed view of the world. Ain’t going to happen. As the Republicans were wont to say after the 2000 election, time to move on.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:24 amIt never looks good when a Democrat apologizes for a remark that the GOP twists into something else! Sen. Kerry has NOT learned from the mistake that Sen. Durbin made by apologizing to the GOP goons. Kerry would be wise to withdraw any consideration for running for President now > he made a gaff comment and has made it worse by apologizing for it > this just gives ammunition to thugs like Limbaugh and O’Reilly.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:24 amin reichwingnutia one mispoken or misinterpreted statement from a politician they have totally dismissed and discredited long ago= 6 years of failed policy
November 1st, 2006 at 11:25 amThey’ve already taken away Habeas Corpus, now we cannot criticize the president and his policies without being forced to apologize? Will we be waterboarded for not apologizing when we criticize the president?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:25 amOn ABC news:
What’s unclear is if Kerry’s comments will help rally Republican voters or help their party portray Democrats as against the troops to score victories next Tuesday. A Democratic congressman told ABC News Tuesday, “I guess Kerry wasn’t content blowing 2004, now he wants to blow 2006, too.â€
ROTFL…yeah his own party….ROTFL
November 1st, 2006 at 11:25 amJason, you would quicker accept a man’s explaination of shooting another man in the face than someone who botched a joke? He SHOT A MAN IN THE FACE and there were several conflicting stories swarming about including the amount of alcohol consumed. I mean IN THE FACE and that’s just fine with you. SLUUURP FIRE and then nothing but don’t you dare say a joke wrong.
You are assigned to life raft 1107 on the Titanic.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:26 amI’ve looked at all the “Election ‘06″ webpages at MSNBC, NYT, CBS, ABC, etc etc etc, and can not find any office or position that Kerry is running for next week. Can someone explain why this is so important?
Hell, I told my nephew upon his HS graduation this past spring that, given the crap economy, he should definitely get his butt into college and study hard, otherwise he might end up in a job that requires a paper hat or perhaps a uniform and maybe a body bag in Iraq. I wasn’t disparaging the intellegence of the troops (having been one myself way back when), just stressing the importance of getting an education, especially in the tight job market. Isn’t this what Kerry basically said? I think all these RW spinners have lost their minds, are being obtuse, or are just plain stupid.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:26 amWhy is Kerry even running his mouth right before the election when he isn’t even running in any races? He bowed out a little too easily as well amidst the election fraud that handed Bush the presidency.
Everyone remember on the campaign trail how close Bush and Kerry’s family’s were?
I think Kerry is a Republican tool … a real wolf in sheep’s clothing.
What good has Kerry ever done the Democratic party or progressive movement?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:26 amHe makes a much better Republican.
#46, barfly,
If John Kerry’s insult towards America’s fighting men and women in Iraq doesn’t affect races, then why are so many candidates cancelling John Kerry’s appearances? Why is Harold Ford demanding John Kerry apologize?
This is KILLING Dems campaigns, and it will go on and on and on until he either apologizes or the elections are passed.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:26 am#34 Exactly, Jason….That would be an honorable apology. Will Kerry say it? We’ll see…
November 1st, 2006 at 11:27 amKerry Being Sent To Time Out For Duration Of Campaign Season
Too bad the Republicans are too stupid to drum up a phony controversy about an actual candidate. It’s easy for Kerry to step back.
And so the lame story dies.
Next!
November 1st, 2006 at 11:28 am.
Tony Snow never served in the military and is a coward along with Bush/Cheney so it’s interesting as they attack a vet who put his life on the line for the United States. Look Cheney likes water-boarding until it’s done to him. Tony is still living those glory days of wanting to play in a band. He has shown America/World how stupid he is with his press conferences.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:29 amKeep grasping Ben, it’s delicious watching you flail about as you circle the bowl . . .
November 1st, 2006 at 11:29 amWhy do the republicans think the soldiers got us stuck in Iraq?
Kerry said get stuck in Iraq and the Republicans say .. dont talk about the soldiers that way! … why do the Republicans assume he was refering to the soldiers? Why do the Republicans think the soldiers got us stuck in Iraq instead of the Republicans themselves?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:29 am#53, Ben,
Great find! Just what Reps needed, a face to portray the Democratic Party in general. I thought that it would be Schumer, but Kerry just can’t stay away from the camera.
I can’t decide which is better, Kerry killing Dems campaigns, or watching that prog eat carpet when he tried to verbally assault a US Senator …
November 1st, 2006 at 11:29 amIt’s more of an appology then rush gave. at least the phrase ‘i’m sorry’ was involved.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:30 amI’ve looked at all the “Election ‘06″ webpages at MSNBC, NYT, CBS, ABC, etc etc etc, and can not find any office or position that Kerry is running for next week. Can someone explain why this is so important?
Um, because the Republicans are such jokes that they have to make things up?
There, that was easy.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:30 am.
Kerry should not apologize , he should go on the attack , and push on the failures of this administration . He lost his election for his lack of fighting power . Damn it such disapointing wimp.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:31 amAmazing that the neo-conservatives have absolutely nothing else to latch onto, that Kerry’s ‘oops’ moment is the best news they’ve had in months.
What the prepared statement was supposed to be:
“You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq.”
What he said:
You end up getting stuck in a war in Iraq.”
One word. Two letters. And Republicans just about pee their pants with glee.
Not like Bush has ever misspoke, right? And when he does it, it’s ‘folksy’ or endearing.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:32 amYup. John Kerry’s bad joke is more important than all of the above.
To people who have to hide from the truth by making things up? Yes.
Bush has been making up Democrats’ quotes for weeks now. Until now, no one was listening. I thik that’s a good sign.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:32 am.
Remeber when (I’m not sure which) Rumsfeld or Cheany slandered all WWII, Korea and Vietnnam vets by calling the idea of a draft goofy and sayign you don’t get good soldiers out of a draft? Did hhe apologize?
Anyone have the full context of the Snow remarks?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:33 amIf John Kerry’s insult towards America’s fighting men and women in Iraq doesn’t affect races, then why are so many candidates cancelling John Kerry’s appearances? Why is Harold Ford demanding John Kerry apologize?
This is KILLING Dems campaigns, and it will go on and on and on until he either apologizes or the elections are passed.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
Um, last time I looked it was Kerry canceling - at least in every article you posted. He cancelled, knowing that his apology on Imus would satisfy all but the most partisan of critics - like you. Then he withdrew, to deprive the story of oxygen. Wanna bet we’ll be talking about something else by the weekend?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:33 amWhy do the Republicans think the soldiers got us stuck in Iraq instead of the Republicans themselves?
Because they can never take responsibility for their failures. If they were honest about them, their party would be dead.
When’s the last thing they got right?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:33 am.
Well, in post #34, I have once again given the Dems an escape route, but having done so, I have assured that they won’t use it, for no better reason than because I said it.
There is no greater irony.
Have fun today guys, I am going to make my lunch …
November 1st, 2006 at 11:34 amokay, I will ask this question again, as none of the anti-Kerry participants have yet to respond:
November 1st, 2006 at 11:35 amWhat is more discouraging for our troops, botching up a joke about Bush’s failed policy, or chimpishly looking for WMD under your desk while thousands of our brave men and women were dying
watching that prog eat carpet when he tried to verbally assault a US Senator
And now that there are criminal charges, this is looking very good. All of America should see what a thug Allen is. And to think he was going to run in 2008.
Another Republican: neutralized.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:35 am.
What it all comes down to :To the Soldiers and the voting Citizens: A VOTE FOR THE RIGHT equals more of the same.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:35 amNot like Bush has ever misspoke, right? And when he does it, it’s ‘folksy’ or endearing.
Comment by bobcat_grad
Let’s hear Bush’s apology for calling the war on terror a crusade!
November 1st, 2006 at 11:36 amI want an apology from Bush, Cheney and Snow for trying to intimidate a citizen and senator to apologize for criticizing a president. To bully anyone who criticizes the president is an affront to the 1st amendment rights of every citizen in this country. Its one of the most despicable of their acts, and that says alot.
I have criticized President Bush, Clinton, Bush I and just about every other president. However I wil not apologize for exercising my 1st amendment rights and neither should you.
When will Bush, Cheney and Snow apologize for bullying Kerry from his 1st Amendment rights?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:36 amKerry’s ‘Botched’ Joke Backfires
Republicans, from the president on down, are jumping on the Massachusetts Democratic senator’s remark that seemed to disparage U.S. troops in Iraq. Two Democratic congressional candidates have canceled appearances with Kerry.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:37 amCBSNews.com
1) when has the president ever apologized for any of his many blunders?
2) Kerry didn’t misspeak, he was misunderstood… idiots misunderstand things all the time… as do people looking for political advantage…
3) you can bet Republicants will try to keep this alive through the election in hopes it may harm the Dems in some way… Kerry’s not on the ballot, and this is a non-issue… hopefully the American people will discern these three things on their own…
November 1st, 2006 at 11:38 amI wouldn’t apologize until the Republicans, en masse, apologize for their disgusting display during their 2004 convention with the “Purple Heart” band-aids that not only insulted our troops NOW but every valiant soldier who’s fought for this country, right or wrong reason, since the Revolution.
Besides, Bush screws something up every time he opens his mouth and he hasn’t apologized for s–t.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:38 amHave fun today guys, I am going to make my lunch …
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
And when you come back, we’ll probably be talking about something else.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:39 amWell, in post #34, I have once again given the Dems an escape route
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — November 1, 2006 @ 11:34 am
So the center of the political universe revolves around Jason? Oooooookay.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:39 amDude, no wonder you have problems getting a “first date”
I’d laugh if this wasn’t so incredibly sad
How Bush dare attack dems and independents and accuse them to be soft on terrorism , the moron is responsible for Iraq and the creation of more terrorrism and the reemerging Taliban . Impeachement would be too good for him , what shame was brought on our country
November 1st, 2006 at 11:39 amTwo Democratic congressional candidates have canceled appearances with Kerry.
CBSNews.com
Awwww! Too bad, exley. Now it’s going to be harder to pretend that you care about this as it slips back into the long history of Republican bullshit beguiling idiots like you.
The story has been starved. Watch it die.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:41 am.
I can’t overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don’t study, if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq.’
This was the first explanation and it didn’t stick. Kerry had the speech right in front of him. I would love to see that original document.
“You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.â€
Now they are saying he forgot to say US. The spin machine is broken. This is not an apology, this is an attempt to say I’m sorry I got caught saying what I think.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:41 am‘One Democratic party official said: “I would be surprised if you see him welcomed out there anywhere and certainly not in a race that is meaningful,” referring to Kerry.’
CNN.com
November 1st, 2006 at 11:42 amI’ll see your bogus scandal, and raise you, with a real one:
Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki is telling his inner circle that the situation in Iraq is “nearly out of control,” according to CBS News intelligence sources.
Pentagon sources tell the network that General Casey will require 100,000 more Iraqi troops than the 325,000 who were to be trained in order to secure the nation. The security situation, however, has worsened and Iraqi troops have proven to be less effective than their American counterparts. Additional American troops may be called up to help train the new Iraqi security forces, and the U.S. may also double the number of advisors in each Iraqi unit.
As of Tuesday morning, the Pentagon is reporting 103 US casualties in the month of October.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:43 amAdding to the list of apologies, I’d like to see Bush apologize to the American people for saying that the terrorists win if Democrats take over one or both houses of Congress.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:43 amIgnore the trolls, folks. They won’t listen to you even if you warn them that they’re about to drink battery acid. This is all just a game to them, one best played by children in a school yard. Sorry, trolls, we have more important things to discuss, like bringing this corrupt administration to account for the laws they’ve broken and the soldiers they’ve sent to deaths that should never have happened.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:44 amNow they are saying he forgot to say US.
Yes, just like you forgot to paste the sentence before the one above, the one that introduced the entire piece. C’mon, it’s easy. Kerry’s been using it for weeks now. It’s even the title of a new book.
What? You dont’ know what it is? I guess someone’s just using your dumb ass.
Like I didn’t see that coming!
November 1st, 2006 at 11:44 am.
More Democrats try to distance themselves from Kerry’s vile comments:
Democratic candidate Jon Tester, who is running for Senate in Montana
November 1st, 2006 at 11:45 am”
Sen. Kerry’s remarks were poorly worded and just plain stupid. He owes our troops and their families an apology. All Montanans support our troops and want them to have the tools and resources they need to be secure and to return home safe.”
don’t forget:
THE RIGHT NITPIKS WORDS LIKE A BUNCH OF GIRLS WHILE I DRINK HALIBURTON FECAL WATER and RIDE IN AN UNARMORED VEHICLE.
Comment by a soldier — November 1, 2006 @ 11:15 am
November 1st, 2006 at 11:45 am.
I can not believe believe Kerry apologize……this upsets me. He was wrong with what he said. He wasn’t even wrong…..even if it wasn’t a botched joke. Why do people hate the truth?? When have we become a country that is afraid to call something what it is??? Is maintaining a lie at the cost of the truth more important than reality??? This is some really crazy world!!
November 1st, 2006 at 11:45 amThe spin machine is broken. This is not an apology, this is an attempt to say I’m sorry I got caught saying what I think.
Comment by Steve — November 1, 2006 @ 11:41 am
That’s your opinion. But if you haven’t looked lately your opinion is in the minority.
No air, no fire.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:45 amTo: Senator John Kerry-Heinz
Re: Joke telling
Dear Senator - Maybe you should shelve the “jokes”. Reading the transcript of what you were supposed to say and delivering only a partial statement, indicates YOUR educational accomplishments might be lacking. Considering the President had better grades than you in college, maybe you should stop while you’re ahead. For the last 35 years you have consistantly painted the US military in a horrible light. Due to many of your statements, the majority of former and active duty military chose NOT to vote for “one of their own”. And you’re supposed to be the “smart one”? Smart would be keeping your mouth shut - - but since that is impossible for a “limelight junkie” such as yourself, maybe you could confine your remarks to the typical bathroom humour often found on “alternative” blogs.
Sincerely,
November 1st, 2006 at 11:46 amMighty Aphrodite
He is only apologizing for the joke. He needs to ask forgivness for any precived insult to the troops. If he didn’t mean it he souldn’t have a problem with that.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:46 amSteve,
November 1st, 2006 at 11:46 amWhy did Bush not apologize when he chimpishly searched for WMD at a fund raiser, while thousands of our soldiers where dying, and thousands more were getting maimed?
How do you defend something like that, but get all “wired” up for a botched up joke that forgot one word, “us”
Isn’t the press going to bludgeon John Kerry over this remark this morning?
When asked whether we can “win” the “war on terror” Senator Kerry said: “Can we win? I don’t think you can win it. But I think you can create conditions so that the those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world.
Oh, sorry. That was President Bush who said that.
(from Josh Marshall 8.04)
November 1st, 2006 at 11:46 amtypical snow/bush, much adieu about nothing. these trolls are desparate, anything to get a vote for the sinking ship. kerry, a decorated war vet, a man who knows what actual combat is, made a grammatical error, he corrected himself, end of story, no further need to apologise.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:46 amWith all the angst of Kerry’s remark being taken wrong remember this…
ANN COULTER: “Soldiers are just cowards with their backs against the wall. The lowest IQ men in our society, those incapable of normal careers enlist. Their choice in life; prison or the military. Some will have to die in the support of our cause.”
November 1st, 2006 at 11:46 amIntervention Magazine, 11/06/03
anyone that watched Kerry’s press conference and still goes on about slandering the troops is a complete idiot, or drama queen, end of story…
why the hell would Kerry slander the troops? For what possible purpose? common sense, people! its SO obvious he misspoke and this was a joke on Bush’s overall stupidity…
enough!
November 1st, 2006 at 11:47 am“In 1971, when John Kerry spoke out to America, labeling all Vietnam veterans as thugs and murderers, I was shocked and almost brought to my knees, because even though I had served at the same time and same unit, I had never witnessed or participated in any of the events that the Senator had accused us of. I strongly believe that the statements made by the Senator were not only false and inaccurate, but extremely harmful to the United States’ efforts in Southeast Asia and the rest of the world. Tragically, some veterans, scorned by the antiwar movement and their allies, retreated to a life of despair and suicide. Two of my crewmates were among them. For that there is no forgiveness. ”
I support the troops….ROTFL
November 1st, 2006 at 11:47 amYou whacko trolls amaze me. I applaud John Kerry for having the balls to say what he said. I, unlike all of you, understood the context, which was to disparage George Bush, not the troops. But since your neocon boobs have nothing of accomplishment to run on this election you have to twist and spin something out of nothing to try and make your sputtering party have enough gas to make it to the election much less get elected.
Neocon talking nuthead, Rush Limbaugh, said that Michael J. Fox was faking his symptoms. Was that to mean that he really doesn’t have Parkinson’s Disease? Is he just pretending so get out the sympathy vote for democrats in favor of embyonic stem cell research? Rush was too stupid to even check to find out that the tics and twitches are a result of the medication and not the disease. But you love him anyway. Rush also insinuated that Sherrod Brown was black because of his name, “ShaROD.” He didn’t take the time (on the internet, maybe 5 seconds) to find out who he was and that he is white. What a dumbass. But you love him and all the other talking nutheads of the neocon whackos that have hijacked the republican party. The funniest thing is that you even fail to simply acknowledge the brain in your very own heads. Think for yourselves just for once. Try it. Release your fear.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:49 amConsidering the President had better grades than you in college,…
For three out of four years?
Smarter talking points, please. Then again, I’m dealing with an idiot who thinks that Kerry defamed the troops over Vietnam, so what should I expect?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:49 am.
if i had a buck for every time that bush has put his foot in his mouth….i’d be a rich man.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:49 am#8 Exley
Kerry is still sticking with that laughable “botched joke†explanation??? Wow. No one is buying it, Joh, You insulted the troops..Now, for once in your life, do the honorable thing and apologize for your disgusting comments about our troops.
Gee, that’s so unlike you to be so conspicuously dishonest. But, you know as well as anyone else here that Kerry wasn’t talking about the troops. He was talking about Bush. The feigned outrage by you and the rest of the righties is betrayed by your refusal to support the troops in any way but with phony words and gestures.
If you want to see who does and who doesn’t support the troops, check out the graphic at the bottom of this page http://www.veteransforamerica.org/ index.cfm/ page/ weblog/ subpage/ display_blog/ bid/ 290869E3-123F-747A-1B7674B53046B987 . The articles above it tell the story, too.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:49 am#89 I have no problem ignoring the trolls (as you put it) and I would rather see a discussion on how we save lives…….not lives in the future (like fearmongering), rather lives I can save now. Most notably inncoent Iraqi lives and my friends/colleagues that are still serving in the military. I would like to see some of these people again in my life and I hate the idea that they are dying for ignorant and self-righteous Americans, who have never seen a day of combat.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:50 amStarting in the `60’s, the republicans, (who are no friends of public education) put out the call to their constituants to run for school board positions. This action would be easy, as no one really cared enough to pay attention in those days. It also gave them a jumping board to higher office.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:50 amOnce elected, education in the USA started on a downhill slide that continues to this day.
WE call it, “The dumbing down of America”.
Our education system is in the toilet; no history, no civics or poli-sci, no sports or music. Kids graduating who read on a 3rd grade level.
Being dumb doesn’t mean your stupid, but it will keep you from getting a good job.
What is the alternative for these people?, join the army. If you don’t get killed, you might just get educated
Starting in the `60’s, the republicans, (who are no friends of public education) put out the call to their constituants to run for school board positions. This action would be easy, as no one really cared enough to pay attention in those days. It also gave them a jumping board to higher office.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:51 amOnce elected, education in the USA started on a downhill slide that continues to this day.
WE call it, “The dumbing down of America”.
Our education system is in the toilet; no history, no civics or poli-sci, no sports or music. Kids graduating who read on a 3rd grade level.
Being dumb doesn’t mean your stupid, but it will keep you from getting a good job.
What is the alternative for these people?, join the army. If you don’t get killed, you might just get educated
Kerry’s remarks about the education level of those serving in Iraq just shows the true mindset of liberals. Time and time again in the left wing blogosphere I have read posts calling those who serve stupid or without any alternatives and Kerry’s remarks just shine a light on that mindset. He wasn’t joking about Bush or he would have said “Bush” or “the president”. Now that his foot has once again been firmly planted in that maw of his, he wants to spin it as an attack on Bush’s education. I guess Senator Kerry forgot that Bush got better grades than he did. Kerry never apologized to the troops for his remark and will not because he actually believes what he said is true. Politicians always prepare for speeches including their jokes. This wasn’t a botched joke, this is the anti military sentiment that this puke has had since his false allegations against his fellow Vietnam vets. He is a disgrace
November 1st, 2006 at 11:51 am#85 — “this is an attempt to say I’m sorry I got caught saying what I think” — you are absolutely correct. Kerry is still stuck in his anti-Vietnam days the way he thinks of the military. Back then, the military was heavily populated with less educated citizens as the draft gave passes to college students. Kerry still thinks the military is a last resort, when in fact the people in the military are more educated on average than non-military. This is the problem with Kerry and other Dems. They are stuck in the anti-Vietnam time warp, which bears no resemblance to the world of today.
And to think we almost had this man as commander in chief!
November 1st, 2006 at 11:52 amImus is racist and taught me racism as a kid… santana bananna… which I thought was hillarious… thankfully, I found false the stereotypes he projected and was able to think for myself.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:52 amI fixed your post MA, yer welkum!
November 1st, 2006 at 11:53 amBen, hows the kool-aid? and, just of curiousity, do you swallow?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:53 amPlease provide a link that proves Kerry said ALLVietnam veterans are thugs and murderers. and please, no link to a SWIFTBOATER, who has no credential
Kerry’s gaffe is not playing to GOP advantage. Kerry punched back hard at his critics, and the punches hurt. At best it is a wash for the GOP, but most likely it has gone negative for them. Anything that keeps Bush’s mishandling of the war in the news is bad for the GOP. Furthermore, it appears that only the right wing koolaid drinkers like Exley, Ben, and Jason are actually taking Kerry’s words to be a deliberate insult to the troops. So keep flapping your gums about it, guys. Most Americans now realize that sending ill-equipped troops to die in a badly planned and horribly mismanaged war is the real insult. They are reminded of it every time Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld open their mouths to spew bizarre inanities from the extraterrestrial worlds inhabited by their disturbed minds.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:54 amKerry’s remarks about the education level of those serving in Iraq just shows the true mindset of liberals.
Right, ’cause it’s liberals who are pissing away the troops’ lives for nothing in the middle of nowhere, right?
Take your sad little stereotypes back where it’s safe for you. Outside the spider hole of the right, no one is stupid enough to buy your crap.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:55 am.
hey, they only person I’m still waiting for an apology from is Bush. It’s funny how the republicans can take the truth and spin spin spin. Kerry did screw up, but so what, we all know what he meant and it was the truth, something republicans have a hard time with
November 1st, 2006 at 11:55 amWho knew John McCain was on board the Swift Boat? Way to sell out a fellow veteran on your way to defending the coke-snorting frat boy who used his rich daddy’s connections to defending bars in Alabama from the Viet Cong. While he was once considered a hero and a maverick, I now regard John McCain as a walking mess of dishonorable discharge.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:55 amIf people really believe that in this day and age our military members are “not as smart” as other people, you really have not kept up. I was enlisted on a submarine for years, and I can bluntly tell you most of you all here would never have made it, let alone get accepted for sunbarine training. There are MANY high tech areas of the armed forces that require training, some of you only WISH you could get.
To say they are not as smart, i think they are smarter than most of you all here, at the very least.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:55 am5 minutes to 12 eastern time.
Prepare for the absolutely nonstop onslaught of BS on this topic from the right wing radio, starting at noon with Limbaugh.
It’s gonna be disgusting.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:56 amThis is the problem with Kerry and other Dems. They are stuck in the anti-Vietnam time warp, which bears no resemblance to the world of today.
Which is why they keep saying that the war’s opponents are a bunch of hippies and pacifists, right?
Oh, wait, that woud be your side. If you need a doctored quote to “prove” your point, you’re already wrong, so quit projecting. Your party made a mess of things and it’s time you dealt with the real world.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:57 am.
A trip in the way-back machine to March 2004….
At a black-tie dinner for journalists, Mr Bush narrated a slide show poking fun at himself and other members of his administration.
One pictured Mr Bush looking under a piece of furniture in the Oval Office, at which the president remarked: “Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be here somewhere.â€
After another one, showing him scouring the corner of a room, Mr Bush said: “No, no weapons over there,†he said.
And as a third picture, this time showing him leaning over, appeared on the screen the president was heard to say: “Maybe under here?â€
Now back to Nov 06……
Did Bush or his staff apologize for this disgusting joke?
Time magazine’s Joe Klein was dismissive: “Look, this is going to be a long, ugly election year. And I think the president should be allowed to have a little humor…And, you know, it doesn’t upset me overly muchâ€..
Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace, after admitting that “I must say, I still think it’s funny,â€
Fox News anchor Brit Hume concluded: “I thought it was a good-natured performance, and it made him look good only in the sense that it showed he could poke fun at himself…. And you have to feel like saying to people, ‘Just get over it.’â€
Fellow Fox pundit and NPR correspondent Juan Williams agreed: “I was sitting there at a table where everybody was laughing. I think you were at the same table, Chris…. So I think people are petty in the situation. I just think it’s evidence that it’s a political season.â€
Panelist Ceci Connolly of the Washington Post offered praise for Bush’s comedic gifts: “You know, trying to be funny at these things is so difficult, and he is quite good at it. I mean, he really is very good at self-deprecating humor. The pictures were funny. I laughed at the photos. I mean, he looks goofy, and he’s got that great deadpan delivery.â€
The Los Angeles Times penned an editorial in his defense (3/27/04) headlined “Commander in Comedy.†The paper noted that “presidents have always used self-deprecation to deflect criticism,†then lamented the fact that “Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe and other Democrats are acting like laughs should be banned from serious politics.â€
So I ask you again, why can’t Kerry make fun of Bush’s stupidity if Bush is allowed to make fun of not finding the WMD he assured us were there?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:57 am100. Thanks for this post but it will fall on deaf ears of the neocon crowd. Too busy sunbathing on the deck of the Titanic.
98. That’s right. This President is a complete moron. Thanks for the reminder.
95. As opposed to this Presidents actions in disgracing the Services. “You go to war with the army you have, not the one you want”. Yes that’s Rummy and he is directly accountable to the President who has let the situation crumble to what the PM of Iraq has just called it “Nearly out of control”. Yeah keep going after a Senator that’s not running.
Dining tonight on the Titanic your table guests will include Exley, Jason and Ms. Coulter. I’m sure you will enjoy tonights conversation. We will be serving the Crow shortly.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:57 amTime and time again in the left wing blogosphere I have read posts calling those who serve stupid or without any alternatives
November 1st, 2006 at 11:57 amNice projections, not so truthdetector.
I have one of my own,
When I’m not being censored by the right wing blogosphere, I have read posts defending the pedophiles and their activities. Sick, I tell ya, Sick
Democrat Soldier apparently has forgotten the spin meisters who have tried to turn the Foley scandal into a huge issue, have implied that republicans do not want to cure disease, have implied that Bush lied about intel dispite the 9/11 report, implied that the Bush admin conspired to out Valerie Plame, and have even suggested that 9/11 was an inside job.
John Kerry makes a disgusting remark about the education of soldiers fighting in Iraq and it’s spin? No sir, it’s typical of this man who has demonstrated that his only use for the military is to pad his resume. He was called on his actions by his fellow vets in 2004 and your side called them liars. Now he is being called on his latest disparaging remark about our soldiers and his only defense is to call it a “botched joke”. Your whole party is a “botched joke”.
November 1st, 2006 at 11:58 amSheeaht!!! Ben, Hendler, Exley, Miighty Asshat, Daryll all share the same infected kool-aid bong!
November 1st, 2006 at 11:58 am“There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down.” — John Kerry, April 18, 1971
I support the troops….ROTFL
November 1st, 2006 at 11:58 am#120 — can’t wait!
Don’t forget to cut and run to the polls Nov. 7!
November 1st, 2006 at 11:59 amI would like to say as a veteran that I am more than disgusted by people who support the President’s BS as the cost of the lives of my friends and colleagues. People like Exeley and Mightly Aphrodite HAVE NEVER SERVED IN THE MILITARY. It is people like them THAT DISRESPECT THE MILITARY BY SUPPORTING AN IDIOT, WHO SENDS THEM AND OTHER INNOCENTS TO THEIR DEATH. To think I served in the first Gulf War, so these TROLLS could spew their uneducated unknowledgeable BS on a web posting. You are a DISGRACE OF AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. You know nothing about the troops, what they think or why they go. MOST GO, BECAUSE THEY ARE THREATENED WITH IMPRISIONMENT IF THEY DON’T GO!! How is that for NOBLE CAUSE!!!
November 1st, 2006 at 11:59 amOH, well, well, well. What do you think? Is he feeling guitly?
November 1st, 2006 at 11:59 am#99 - w”…what actual combat is, made a grammatical error, he corrected himself, end of story, no further need to apologise.”
Comment by pete
**********Dear Pete - I hate to correct you in front of your friends but Kerry’s “joke” was not a “grammatical error”. A grammatical error had nothing to do with Kerry’s gaffe - contempt for the military did. A grammatical error might look like this: ” I ain’t got none..”, “Me’n Pete are goin’ to work…”etc.
Beginning in the ’70’s John Kerry pulled out his VFW hat when wanting to garner some votes and spit on our servicemen in between election cycles. (If you would like some help learning about “grammatical errors”, please ask any one of the myriad of “educators” who visit this site.
November 1st, 2006 at 12:01 pmHey #119…exactly how many submariners have been killed in Iraq?? Or did you serve on a “sunbarine”..whatever that is?!?
Go research the educational backgrounds of those killed ON THE GROUND in Iraq (the Brookings Institute puts out a monthly Iraq report that is full of statistics)
November 1st, 2006 at 12:01 pm#110… let’s say Kerry were talking about the troops… even though he was talking about the Bush admin….
of course Kerry knows that people with higher eductation serve in the military… he was one. but it is utterly F*&$ing disingenuous at a time when the military has had to lower its test score requirements to fill its recruiting targets to trumpet the few smarties in the military, when they are the exception and not the rule. This means that the military is “dumber” on average before the requirements were lower. The Bush administration has though its policies made the military “dumber”. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
November 1st, 2006 at 12:01 pmThey told stories that, at times, they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam, in addition to the normal ravage of war and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country …
I support the troops….ROTFL
November 1st, 2006 at 12:01 pmJohn Kerry makes a disgusting remark about the education of soldiers fighting in Iraq and it’s spin?
No, it’s a lie. You’re either dumb enough to fall for it or dishonest enough to push it. Judging from all the things you got wrong in your first paragraph, I’m voting for ‘dumb.’
No wonder you’re a Reublican.
November 1st, 2006 at 12:02 pm.
Kerry’s remarks about the education level of those serving in Iraq just shows the true mindset of liberals.
This won’t last til the weekend.
He left out the word “us” - too bad for us Colin Powell didn’t include the word “no” when he stated Bush’s case that “we have evidence that Saddam is trying to purchase yellowcake uranium for Niger.” Perhaps we wouldn’t even be talking about Iraq right now, but how great it was that we finally brought Osama bin Laden to justice . . .
November 1st, 2006 at 12:02 pmThere is absolutely no problem with Senator Kerry’s statement.
The problem is with the interpretation:
(1) if you believe that Kerry wants to commit political suicide,
that’s one way,
(2) if you think that the right interpretation can be EASILY and
UNAMBIGUOUSLY obtained from the context, that’s another
way.
Is it possible to say that the President gets stuck in Iraq ?
Anyone wants to talk about it any more is crazily stupid.
November 1st, 2006 at 12:02 pmI support the troops….ROTFL
And this is supposed to “prove” your point? I guess you don’t know about the history of free fire zones, eh?
Makes it easier to just use your dumb ass.
November 1st, 2006 at 12:03 pm.
103 - “I, unlike all of you, understood the context, which was to disparage George Bush, not the troops. ” Mr. Evil
********Dear Mr. E - WOW….Your mind-reading abilities are AMAZING!! Did you win the last Powerball????
November 1st, 2006 at 12:03 pmI’m curious, why do so many Right Wingers read this site? Can’t you stay busy at the LGF circle jerk? You’re never going to win any arguments over here with all your insanity. Kerry has nothing to apologize for, and everybody, including the White House, knows it. This is the weakest “October Surprise” ever.
November 1st, 2006 at 12:04 pmTruthdector, John Kerry only used the military to pad his resume?! Then what the hell would you call President AWOL’s service? Maybe I shouldn’t ask, as you obviously think a slip of the tongue is treasonous, but a political party covering a sexual predator within their own ranks is no big deal. Nice sense of values.
November 1st, 2006 at 12:04 pmSo spake the 101st division of the GrOPer ChickenHawk Keyboard Brigade Cpl. Ben Gay.
November 1st, 2006 at 12:04 pmWas Kerry’s comment a veiled reference to our “C”-student botcher-in-chief?
November 1st, 2006 at 12:04 pmTo say they are not as smart, i think they are smarter than most of you all here, at the very least.
Comment by Douglas+G.
That’s your inference, gained from a desperate need to deflect from Bush’s disastrous foreign policies. You only highlight your intellectual bankruptcy by continuing in this vein.
November 1st, 2006 at 12:05 pm#72
Have fun today guys, I am going to make my lunch …
Enjoy your lunch, Jason. Next Tuesday we’ll be eating it.
November 1st, 2006 at 12:06 pmalright, this is what i took from it. if you are poor and uneducated the chances of you going into the military are 100 x’s greater than someone who is rich and priviledged or heading for a college education. and folks on that assessment he is right. NONE of these fascist dictators have ever put on a uniform. for them to sit and say it was a blow to the military shows how stupid they really are. why would anyone expect ’stupid’ to understand what he(kerry) was saying. if anyone owes an apology it is this criminal, hypocritical nazi admin. for invading, occupying and murdering thousands of innocent people for their own self interests. and all in the name of OIL.
F. bushyboy
F. chen-a-fool
F. rummdumm
F. woooolfy
F. lies-a-lot
and F. this whole damn administration
November 1st, 2006 at 12:07 pmWas Kerry’s comment a veiled reference to our “Câ€-student botcher-in-chief?
Yes, that was the whole point. In fact, Kerry says so right before the clipped quote that all the trolls are sucking on.
They have to pretend to be outraged, it’s all they’ve got.
November 1st, 2006 at 12:07 pm.
It is so obvious to me that talking to idiots is not the way to get anything resolved. I must TAKE BACK MY COUNTRY from these idiots, who talk about BS and have obviously never served a day in the service. I am therefore ignoring these trolls, but would like to open a discussion on how to CHANGE THE GAME AND TURN IT AROUND ON THESE IGNORANT FOOLS IN POWER (People who use “the google” and “internets” or who think that the internet is just a giant bunch of tubes)….this is our so intelligent government that sent our troops to die and have killed many innocent people.
November 1st, 2006 at 12:08 pmDear Mr. E - WOW….Your mind-reading abilities are AMAZING!! Did you win the last Powerball????
Mindreading? The powerball has a MIND?
No, idiot, it’s called English reading. You might try it some time.
November 1st, 2006 at 12:08 pm.
#129 - “….People like Exeley and Mightly Aphrodite HAVE NEVER SERVED IN THE MILITARY. It is people like them…” Aptly named Peejay3306
********Dear PeeJay - YOU must have been the military service member Senator Heinz was talking about!! I served in the military (LCdr - USN) and my huband, Mr. Aphrodite is a retired USMC colonel. Nice try - but weak!
November 1st, 2006 at 12:09 pmPlease play again….
some of our troops have proven worthy of disparaging remarks - at least kerry shares the status of veteran, which should allow him to say whatever the hell he pleases.
i ask once again, who are the parents who are hoping for high SAT scores for their high school senior, so that they will be able to go to Iraq??
if our troops are victims of something, then it’s Rummy’s idiot war planning and stop-loss program -
did everyone miss the poll of the troops that indicates the majority of them want out of Iraq?
I tell my kids all the time to study hard and learn a lot so that they will not have to join the military, and I strongly doubt that puts me in a slim minority of parents.
funny how much a dose of the truth gets the pot boiling…
November 1st, 2006 at 12:09 pm“And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the–of–the historical customs, religious customs.â€
I support the troops….ROTFL
November 1st, 2006 at 12:10 pmWatershed, gee apparently you don’t find it disgusting to call US troops stupid which is what Kerry did. He never mentioned Bush or The President in that “joke” of his. His past actions of lying about Us soldiers committing atrocities in Vietnam shows his anti military bias. His whole 2004 campaign was his 4 months in Vietnam. As soon as he got his purple hearts for the scratches he got he left while others stayed and fought. When the Swift vets called him on his 1971 testimony and how it made them feel, the democrats called them liars. this is how your party treats us armed forces. That is why they usually vote for the Republican candidates.
Apparently it’s also ok with you to use forged documents to make AWOL accusations, call the president a liar despite the 9/11 report, claim he mislead the congress even though they saw all the intel reports Bush did, and even suggest that 9/11 could have been prevented despite the evidence to the contrary pointed out in the 9/11 commission.
You guys really take the cake.
November 1st, 2006 at 12:10 pmThe soldiers in Iraq are fighting for our freedoms. As did the hundreds of thousands of soldiers in all our past wars.<