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VIDEO: Snow Incessantly Calls On Kerry To Apologize, Ignoring Kerry Apology

ThinkProgress, the AP, and Reuters have all reported that Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) apologized for his remarks on MSNBC this morning. Specifically Kerry said, “I’m sorry” and called his remarks “pretty stupid.”

Nevertheless, during the White House press conference today, Tony Snow repeatedly called on Kerry to apologize. Watch it:

[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2006/11/snowsorryfinal.320.240.flv]

Full transcript below:

SNOW: You know, two words really are sufficient to convey an apology: I’m sorry. And he hasn’t.

Senator Kerry is — I think he’s insistent on pointing fingers at the president or whatever rather than simply saying — look, it’s real simple. I mean, you and I and everybody in this room have said things that we didn’t intend to say. And when it offends people, you say, I’m sorry.

And he hasn’t done that.

All he has to do — it’s really easy — say, I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to offend the troops.

But, instead, there’s always: I’m not going to apologize for going after the president.

[SNIP]

But again, look, this is simple. I mean, there was an insult delivered to troops, whether it was intended or not. And the way you clean the slate is say, I didn’t mean to say it; I’m sorry.

[SNIP]

I don’t think it really matters what the president thinks Senator Kerry intended to say. What matters is what Senator Kerry needs to say for members of his ownparty, to the American Legion, to Amvets, to a number of other organizations who have come out and simply said you need to apologize for what you said.

It’s not hard.

I’m sorry. I mean, this is helpful advice to say, I’m sorry, I messed up. Please forgive me.

[SNIP]

Again. How hard is this? You say something, it’s not what you meant to say, you apologize. You say you’re sorry.

[SNIP]

I mean, this is helpful advice. We’re trying to help you out. We’re throwing you a lifeline, buddy. Just say you’re sorry. It’s not hard.

[SNIP]

I think what you might want to say is: Will people accept his apology? Let’s see what happens.

QUESTION: What do you think? Do you think Republicans will accept his apology?

You know what, let’s — first, ask — he has to apologize. You know, we always play the hypothetical game, but let me put it this way: People are pretty forgiving when somebody says I messed up and I’m sorry.



125 Responses to “VIDEO: Snow Incessantly Calls On Kerry To Apologize, Ignoring Kerry Apology”

  1. Kevin says:

    He apologized for a bad joke. He didn’t apologize for upsetting the troops.


  2. ForTruth says:

    Snow is a turkey.


  3. Fredric+L.+Rice says:

    There’s great irony

    The fact that Bush didn’t understand that he was the target of the joke is ironic in that the joke was about the Christian terrorist’s low IQ.

    Along comes fellow Christian terrorist defending rightards who _also_ couldn’t figure it out that the joke was about their mass murdering, baby killing Fuhrer’s low IQ.


  4. Hardy+Haberman says:

    Why should he appologize? He was speaking of Bush being stupid and getting us bogged down in Iraq. Besides, he spent several minutes on TV yesterday doing just that, clarifying his intention…

    Tony Snow is even less competent than Scotty was.


  5. NoMoreRepublicanTrash says:

    It’s time for Snow to call on Bush to apologize for having the blood of thousands of our murdered and maimed troops on his hands. It’s time for Snow to call on Bush to apologize for having the blood of hundreds of thousands of murdered and maimed Iraqis on his hands. It’s time for Snow to drop this tired talking point about Kerry. If they Republicans are stupid enough to think that this Kerry-bashing is going to get them one more vote, then they are delusional. Clearly, the more the Republicans beat this dead horse, the more they show America that their party is in as much trouble as we believe them to be. EVERYONE GET OUT AND VOTE. IF YOU ARE FACED WITH VOTING ON A DIEBOLD MACHINE, VOTE ABSENTEE. THERE ARE WAYS TO GET AROUND THE DIEBOLD ROAD BLOCK. VOTE ABSENTEE.



  6. Zimzone says:

    ‘look, it’s real simple. I mean, you and I and everybody in this room have said things that we didn’t intend to say. And when it offends people, you say, I’m sorry.

    And Rush hasn’t done that.

    All Rush has to do — it’s really easy — say, I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to offend the Michael J. Fox.

    But, instead, there’s always: I’m not going to apologize’

    Gee, Snowhite, why does Rush hate disabled persons?


  7. Crackers says:

    I want them to apologize to us for the missing WMDs, the war in Iraq, the stolen elections of 2000 and 2004, for not finding Osama, for New Orleans, for peeing on our Constitution.


  8. Yachts+and+Lattes says:

    Off Topic: I’m going out today to find some purple ink. When I cast my vote on Tuesday, I’ll show solidarity with the Iraqis and dip my finger in the ink. But instead of the index finger, it’ll be the middle one that I’ll be dipping.

    On Topic: The fact that the WH is clinging to this deliberate misinterpretation of what one decorated veteran said about a draft-dodger just shows how desperate they are to win a news cycle.


  9. Republicans are the fear and smear party says:

    The Republicans are in their last throes, if you will.


  10. Chris H. says:

    “There are no American troops at the airport. That is bad intel that you have. Our tanks are cutting through the Americans. The Americans have no hope of reaching Bagdad.”

    I think that came from Tony’s last job.


  11. Pissed+Off says:

    Oh Kevin:

    For the last time. The comments were directed at the Shrub-In-Chief (The guy who went AWOL from Air Force Reserve), and not the troops currently serving in Iraq.

    This is why the GOP will lose next Tuesday. You people just don’t seem to get it, and are stuck in the neo-con alternate reality.

    I am really sorry for you, but there is hope. By this time next week you would have been freed from the chains of Cheney-servitude because

    We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do RE-ORDAIN and RE-ESTABLISH THE CONSTITUTION of the United States of America.

    (My appologies to Mr. Jefferson for the need to re-edit certain portions of his magnificent prose.)


  12. katy says:

    it’s . what . they . do . … LIE … REPEAT … SPIN & LIE…


  13. John+the+Elder says:

    You take Snowball off Fauxkrieg Network, but you can’t take the Faux mentality out of Snowball. Once and idiot, always an idiot.


  14. Exley says:

    Heh! I love that ThinkProgress is still trying to claim that Kerry apologized, when we can all see that he did no such thing.

    TP is REALLY desperate to put this Kerry-debacle behind them, aren’t they? Well, until Kerry apologizes for calling our troops lazy and stupid, this issue will not rest.


  15. dlet says:

    He apologized for a bad joke. He didn’t apologize for upsetting the troops.

    Comment by Kevin

    Exactly. See he apologized for what he did. If he apologized for something that he didn’t do then he would be an idiot. Kind of like a child predator apologizing for being a drunk.


  16. Roger_Roger says:

    He hasn’t apoligized directly to the troops. Until he does, this story won’t die.


  17. Peejay3306 says:

    I can’t help but wonder what character flaw Exley has if she writes posts in a site she completely disagree with. It’s like President Bush being out of touch with the American Public….Exley’s out of touch with most of the people in this room….so what’s her point??


  18. Kevin says:

    Does not matter who he intended the joke to be on. He offended troops. If you say something that offends people (regardless of the intent) you apologize to the offended party. That’s not politics, that’s good manners.


  19. Democrat Soldier says:

  20. Jackie says:

    Tony Snow joined the military yet he has now taken on judgeiing a war hero. Bush/Cheney non military men who were scared and cowards now attack Kerry and Murtha. What example is this showing our kids. It’s ok to talk about being Patriotic but don’t join just let others do it. Let your rich Daddy fix and pay people to get you to be President that’s the American way. Oh yes let those minorities do the dirty work while you stand tall as the master. As for money let the people give their full share while the rich keep theirs and get more. Racism is the Bush policy and will become part of the United States Constitution. Gays are a no no unless your last name is Cheney then it’s ok.


  21. dlet says:

    #15 – rebuttal

    Heh! I love that Exley is still trying to claim that Kerry did not apologize, when we can all see that he did.

    Exley is REALLY desperate to put this Bush-Iraq-Allen-Foley-Hastert-debacle behind them, isn’t he? Well, until Bush apologizes for killing our troops for no reason but to act tough on a world stage, this issue will not rest.


  22. Democrat Soldier says:

    #17 – Just like Sen. Allen has never apologized to black people for calling them “monkeys”.

    If Sen. Kerry’s remarks are what YOU say they are, then Sen. Allen’s remarks are what WE say they are.

    This just shows how desperate the right-whiners are that they have to hang onto a sinking story rather than gracefully go down the drain.

    Speaker Pelosi, save us!


  23. Marie says:

    Snow should be asked if he will prevail upon his boss to apologize for his incompetence and the ineptitude of his appointees in managing this immoral war that he got us into illegally.
    Kerry has said he misspoke and that he does not disrespect the troops. The Repugs will not accept that.
    The public will soon show that they will not accept Bush any mroe.


  24. hellinabucket says:

    I demand an apology from this President for spreading fear. America doesn’t lose if Democrats are elected. America wins if we have free and fair elections. Not covered with slander and lies.


  25. DenverOasis says:

    I want them to apologize to us for the missing WMDs, the war in Iraq, the stolen elections of 2000 and 2004, for not finding Osama, for New Orleans, for peeing on our Constitution.

    exactly!!! pot, meet kettle.


  26. Zimzone says:

    Hey Ex-Laxly,
    How ’bout that book Macaca’s sister published, eh?
    It almost matches the vulgarity of Lynne Cheney’s lesbian novel.
    Why are Republicans bullies & perverts?


  27. TritoneSubstitution says:

    C’mon. Who really cares about this? He thinks he apologized. If you don’t think he did then be angry and keep carping. Ultimately it doesn’t mean a thing. It’s not going to affect the election. This story is on its last legs. I’ll betcha tomorrow it will be gone. If not, I’ll be glad to admit I’m wrong. I wish tomorrow was the 7th so I could cast my vote for change.


  28. DieNowForPeace says:

    Apologize for what? Just because he stated “lazy stupid people” can get stuck in Iraq? That’s absolutely true. And does not imply that ALL the troops currently in Iraq are “lazy” and “stupid”. But many are.
    Hell, we just lowered standards for new recruits, and most veterans will tell you that the “new blood” in the military is less trained, dumber, and more dangerous to the older recruits.
    Besides, I’d still rather get my military advice and/ or criticism from SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY FOUGHT, unlike the Chickenhawk Bush Cabal of SICKENING COWARDS.


  29. NoMoreRepublicanTrash says:

    Heh! I love that ThinkProgress is still trying to claim that Kerry apologized, when we can all see that he did no such thing.

    TP is REALLY desperate to put this Kerry-debacle behind them, aren’t they? Well, until Kerry apologizes for calling our troops lazy and stupid, this issue will not rest.

    Comment by Exley — November 1, 2006 @ 3:32 pm

    Heh! I think it’s comical that you think this issue is more important than BUSH being personally responsible for the death and maiming of thousands of our troops and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Heh! It is the Republicans who are desperate, and they show their desperation every second that they continue to beat this dead horse. Kerry already apoligized, an in my opinion, he shouldn’t have. If there are any apologies due they should be coming from BUSH and the Republicans. Heh! I think you are lazy and stupid because there are thousands of articles, publications, websites that clearly point out that BUSH and the Republicans are spinning out of control in their zeal for greed, lust, tearing our constitution to shreds, and the destruction of our country. Heh! Why don’t you wake up.


  30. COMMENT BY JIM says:

    Poor John Kerry, he can’t get his silver foot out of his mouth.


  31. ForTruth says:

    Pat Roberts needs to apologize for stopping the investigation into the Iraq war.

    Pat Roberts also needs to apologize for his “You don’t have any freedom when your dead” statements, how does he know?

    DeLay needs to apologize for adding more corruption to the government.

    Blackwell needs to apologize for rigging the Ohio election in 2004.

    Rummy needs to apologize for not sending enough troops and equipment for this war.

    Dicky needs to apologize for shooting another person in the face.

    Condi needs to apologize for selling out.

    Hastert needs to apologize for eating up the buffet table, and not taking care of Foley a long time ago.

    Jean Schmidt needs to apologize again to Murtha.

    Kay Bailey Hutchenson needs to apologize for not supporting the rule of law.

    Frist needs to apologize for practicing medicine without a license.

    Lott needs to apologize for cutting to the front of the Katrina aid line.

    Coulter needs to apologize for her completely abusive statements about others.

    Limbaugh needs to apologize for lying and drugging so much.

    Allen needs to apologize for assaulting others, and making racist remarks.

    That Alaska senator, what’s his face, needs to apologize for packing bills with his pork.

    Fox News needs to apologize to the journalism community for making them look bad.

    Cyrus Norwretch needs to apologize for being personally biased due to his background.

    Bush needs to apologize for killing the neighbor’s cat, pissing on the earth, upsetting everyone else, and wasting American lives in a lame-ass war.

    I’m sure I missed someone.


  32. Democrat Soldier says:

    #29 – “I’ll betcha tomorrow it will be gone.”

    Nope, the right-whiners are so desperate to spin any story in their favor, this will remain high on their list until after they lose the House on Nov. 8th.

    At that point, they’ll have nobody to blame but themselves for losing majority status.


  33. DRxJ says:

    TP is REALLY desperate to put this Kerry-debacle behind them, aren’t they? Well, until Kerry apologizes for calling our troops lazy and stupid, this issue will not rest.

    Comment by Exley — November 1, 2006 @ 3:32 pm
    Yeah, they really are trying to put this behind them by posting another thread. Can’t see your logic there.
    Kerry never called our troops lazy and stupid, he called Bush lazy and stupid and thus has “us” stuck in Iraq.
    But, since you firmly believe he was attacking our troops, you must revamp your argument to this:
    Well, until Kerry apologizes for calling our troops in Iraq lazy and stupid, but nowhere else, this issue will not rest.
    Of course, that would make no sense, and would thoroughly debunk that argument


  34. TritoneSubstitution says:

    I prefer the foot in mouth veteran to the guy who was born on second base thinking he hit a double.


  35. ytterbius says:

    I didn’t mean to offend the troops.

    Hmm… last I checked, “the troops” weren’t saying a whole lot about being offended, and certainly nobody in the Bush Administration has ever been one of the troops.


  36. Happy+Guy says:

    Your honey Sen Hillary Clinton is asking Swift Boat John to apologize now. So let’s hear what you have to say now? Should he? Did he? Is Hillary wrong or is Kerry wrong?

    ROTFL, can’t have it both ways lefties, ROTFL


  37. Jkelly says:

    hilarious!

    Hill & Snow are on the same page…. This just out………………….

    Sen. Clinton visits Kingston, says Kerry should apologize
    November 01, 2006
    Kingston

    — Sen. Hillary Clinton, speaking at a Kingston campaign stop this morning, joined the chorus of Democrats criticizing Sen. John Kerry for what the former presidential candidate has called a joke gone awry.

    “What Sen. Kerry said was inappropriate,” she said.


  38. Pissed+Off says:

    #32

    Jim:

    If true, he is at leat sucking on his own toes, and not those of a 16 year old page like Foley would have liked to do.


  39. Peejay3306 says:

    I think Exlax is maschoistic…..this is the character flaw….I get it now. Exley if you really like punishment, I think I can find a whip to your liking!!


  40. Preznit+Pinhead says:

    Where was the outrage when Bush called the Iraqmire a “comma” and thereby insulted the friends & families of the 2800 troops that have died for monkeyboy’s lies?

    Where was the outrage when Rummy referred to our troops as a “fungible resource” to be moved wherever & whenever he wanted?

    C’mon freepazoids, answer the questions–or get down to the recruiter’s office and sign your own lazy asses up to fight for the glory of your dear leader.


  41. Douglas+G. says:

    6 days till the liberal screams abound the U.S., cries of lawsuits and court orders……


  42. NoMoreRepublicanTrash says:

    Poor John Kerry, he can’t get his silver foot out of his mouth.

    Comment by COMMENT BY JIM — November 1, 2006 @ 3:44 pm

    And BUSH is a country bumpkin who pulled himself up by his bootstraps to make it in this world? If indeed Kerry’s silver-spoon upbringing bothers you so, please now post the exact same comment about BUSH. Here’s the difference, in case you really care to learn something, Kerry got where he is today by his own hand, not his daddy’s. Everything Bush has was given to him by his family. Every job he ever had was through favors from family friends, or outright bought for him by his family. Bush didn’t get into Yale on his own, he got in based on favors from family friends. Bush had had everything in his life handed to him on a silver platter. He didn’t have to work for any of it. Get to typing that comment now about BUSH’S silver spoon upbringing, otherwise, you cannot be taken seriously.


  43. TritoneSubstitution says:

    Soldier they want to keep the story alive, hell they have a new ad out right now about it. But this story will die because nothing new is going to happen in it. Let’s face it, it wasn’t much of a story to begin with. Bush said “we were never stay the course” and people immediately started googling for the clips. How long did that story last?


  44. bobcat_grad says:

    Poor John Kerry, he can’t get his silver foot out of his mouth.

    Poor George Bush, he can’t get his head out of his…

    Nevermind, I’m going to be the bigger man, here.


  45. Peejay3306 says:

    we will see Doug G and when you lose will you show your face here….or change your ID!! Smugness is never a pretty quality and many times undeserved!!


  46. ForTruth says:

    Exley,

    You are a butt-burp.


  47. katy says:

    heard on randi – they will bring out darth cheney who will say:
    “he was for the joke before he wasn’t” (something like that)…

    it’s all a distraction… there are really important things they don’t want us to know and think about…
    .


  48. pgl says:

    A little more on Tony Snow over at Angrybear. I guess all those really offensive lies that have been made by Snow, his boss, and the Vice President were lies they intended to make as they certainly have not apologized.


  49. bobcat_grad says:

    6 days till the liberal screams abound the U.S.,

    Cries of joy because of all of the seats they won.

    cries of lawsuits

    By Republicans that will fall on deaf ears. Just like the Dems’ did in ‘04.

    and court orders…

    Issued surrounding all of the investigations into the Republicans illegal activities over the past 6 years.


  50. DieNowForPeace says:

    Brilliant one Tritone: “Born on 2nd base but thinks he hit a double.”

    Reminds me of the lame Obama argument that he doesn’t have enough experience to run for President? As if! Shrubbie’s warm up was the fake office of Texas Governer, yet somehow, he’s got experience?

    GIVE

    ME

    A

    BREAK.

    Damn, Republican’s are so freakin’ dumb.


  51. Marie says:

    Preznit Pinhead -
    As usual, you get it right.
    The “comma” and “fungible” comments, not to mention the “number” by Snow didn’t cause a tenth of the commotion this has caused.
    D’ya think it’s because we have a so called “liberal” press?
    I never thought I would be so cynical, so distrustful, so angry and so embarrassed by my country’s leaders.
    At one time, I thought I wanted to be a journalist – I am embarrassed by what passes for journalism today.


  52. Swordsbane says:

    STOP IT!!! STOP IT!!!!

    I’m sorry for anything I might have done in a former life…. in case I cheated on my taxes without knowing…. didn’t give as much to cancer research this year… I’ll promise to get regular checkups and brush my teeth twice a day…. whatever… just STOP WITH THE “KERRY GOOFED HIS JOKE” STORIES.

    I’m going to go get drunk now… There are sober people in Africa.


  53. Chris+H. says:

    The longer the richt winggers keep this story going, the more the Iraq war will be in the minds of the voters. I say let them keep it going.


  54. BigCynic.com says:

    Bush has insulted the troops much worse by sending them to die for oil.


  55. wisedup says:

    I see trolls trying to distract from the truth. If they had any brains they would except the FACT as Olbermann showed,Kerry was calling bush STUPID…which ain’t all bad…lolol.
    I include SNOW in that STUPID comment…mr PAID lier.


  56. TritoneSubstitution says:

    DieNow, Well, I think Ann Richards (Rest In Peace) said it but thank you nonetheless.


  57. Dog_named_Boo says:

    He apologized for a bad joke. He didn’t apologize for upsetting the troops.

    Comment by Kevin

    You actually think the troops are upset about a few words from Kerry?
    Bwajajajajajaaaa!!

    They are much more upset about Mr Nation Builder Bush and his course of tall tales!


  58. lw says:

    Democratic message: Iraq, Katrina, Afghanistan, 9/11 Commission recommendations, renewable energy, health care, global warming solutions, education, stem cell research, …

    Republican message: John Kerry


  59. Mikey says:

    #39, jkelly, how about a link to that quote and the time of day it was stated?


  60. cc says:

    Of course the White House is not going to let go of this… it’s all they’ve got!


  61. katy says:

    Comment by Jkelly — November 1, 2006 @ 3:49 pm

    a real man would provide a link… the google is awesome, tho…
    here’s the rest of that story:

    Sen. Clinton says Kerry should apologize
    November 01, 2006
    Photo Gallery: Hillary Clinton visits upstate New York

    Kingston — Sen. Hillary Clinton, speaking at a Kingston campaign stop this morning, joined the chorus of Democrats criticizing Sen. John Kerry for what the former presidential candidate has called a joke gone awry.

    “What Sen. Kerry said was inappropriate,” she said.

    Asked if Kerry should apologize, President Bush and other members of both parties have said, Clinton said “I heard he said he was sorry.”
    Clinton tried to deflect attention from the controversy by saying “elections are about the future,” and “we don’t have to be re-fighting the 2004 election, as much as President Bush would like that.”

    http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061101/NEWS/61101021
    (Record Online is brought to you by the Times Herald-Record, serving New York”s Hudson Valley and the Catskills.)
    .


  62. hellinabucket says:

    It’s become evident that Kerry’s apology will not be enough for the mudfish that keep popping up here. So be it. He’s apologized. If you don’t accept it fine.

    The list is very long for the apologies being waited on from the republicans in power.

    Ignore the wreckless behavior of our leaders, you will be that 30%. Take a look at the polls. Democrats are ahead and pulling away for races in the house and the senate is on unstable ground for the republicans.


  63. And+You+Thought+REAGAN+Was+Stupid says:

    It’s time for Bush to apologize to the American people and to our troops for lying about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein and Iraq. There were no WMDs and no program to build nuclear weapons. The Senate refuses to complete the investigation into whether the Bush administration manipulated the intelligence leading up to the war.


  64. Exley says:

    Now Democratic senatorial candidate Claire McCaskill is demanding Kerry apologize for his insulting comments about our troops:

    McCaskill campaign: Kerry should apologize for comments

    Claire McCaskill’s campaign called on Sen. John Kerry to apologize for a “botched joke” he made on Monday.

    “[McCaskill] said it’s a dumb thing to say and he should apologize,” said McCaskill spokeswoman Adrainne Marsh.

    Kerry sparked a firestorm at Pasadena City College when he said, “You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t you get stuck in Iraq.”

    But…But…ThinkProgress says Kerry hasd already apologized??? Why would McCaskill ask for an apologu if he already di????

    Heh!

    Apologize, John.


  65. RealScientist says:

    Today, once again, Bush has expressed complete confidence in Donald Rumsfeld. I want every Bush-defending troll at TP to write something about how they feel about this, with particular attention to the following questions:

    1. Do you like Rumsfeld?
    2. Do you think Rumsfeld is doing a good job directing the war in Iraq?
    3. Do you think Rumsfeld has a grip on reality?
    4. Do you think that Bush is wise to keep Rumsfeld on as Secretary of Defense?
    5. Do you think Bush has a grip on reality?

    I want honest answers about how you truly feel about Rumsfeld and Bush’s unwavering support for him.


  66. dlet says:

    Mikey,
    In that article that JKelly loves to talk about Hillary states that Kerry has apologized. Even she said this stuff yesterday. JKelly just likes to fart in the wind.


  67. leftcoast says:

    I have the deepest respect for our troops. I served during Viet Nam. Whether you agree with the war or not we must respect them, and I believe Kerry does. Anyone who thinks different is just a moron, and is taking advantgage of a poor joke.
    Under the No Child Left Behind Act, schools must allow military recruiters access to high school records to ferret out students with poor grades and also target students with black sounding names and Hispanic sir names. They have unfettered access to the school grounds and to the students they target. They call them at home at all hours of the night and their tactics would be criminal if they were door to door salesmen and telemarketers. Whether Kerry meant to warn students or point out the poorly educated president, frankly I don’t care. What I do care about is that this administration is well aware of the fact that they cannot meet recruitment goals from the better educated and have made sure the military gained access to our children at the earliest possible time. The military has lowered the minimum test score standards as well. Yes, students need to hear the truth. If you don’t study and work hard in school there are predators out there that will take advantage of you in life. One of them is George Bush.


  68. Mikey says:

    #66, thanks Katy, your google skills are obviously better than mine. But thanks for exposing jkelly for the troll he is. Nice try jkelly, you just proved you’re no better than the rest of the fact twisting republicans and the “stuffed shirt mouthpiece” Tony Snow.


  69. TritoneSubstitution says:

    What they need is a Clinton style response mechanism. Hit ‘em back. Hard. When Cheney says the first word about it, Kerry needs to slap him down hard with charges of cowardice/chickenhawkery/otherpriorties/5 deferments. “I’m not going to listen to that coward say that I don’t support our troops. His support is sending them to die for nothing.”


  70. Mikey says:

    #71, thanks dlet, I suspected there was more to that story. jkelly showed his true colors.


  71. nym@alias.net says:

    when is bush going to apologize for those WMD jokes?

    cnn reports bush WMD jokes


  72. DRxJ says:

    exley, Mr. Kerry, war veteran and senator, has issued a written apology.
    Satisfied, or is a second apology no enough?


  73. RealScientist says:

    #66, thanks Katy, your google skills are obviously better than mine. But thanks for exposing jkelly for the troll he is. Nice try jkelly, you just proved you’re no better than the rest of the fact twisting republicans and the “stuffed shirt mouthpiece” Tony Snow.

    Comment by Mikey — November 1, 2006 @ 4:10 pm

    jkelly has put on a tour de force demonstration of straw man argumentation on this and other TP threads today. jkelly cannot argue a point, and cannot defend his views with facts and logic, so he spends most of his time putting words into other people’s mouths or misrepresenting the public record.


  74. TritoneSubstitution says:

    It’s really not jkelly’s fault. The media is reporting it that way even as we speak. Our real nemesis in this election cycle is not the 35 or so percent Republican stalwarts. It’s the irresponsible media.


  75. big+papa says:

    This is worse than pathetic. I was so fed up I emailed the DNC, Kerry and Barack Obama at ussentate.com an idea for a commercial rebutting Repulsivescum Party Bush/Rove spin denigrating Kerry, Murtha, and other Democrats’ military related images. The commercial goes like this:

    Dark nightime skies are interrupted with the silhouette of a C-130 military plane being peppered with anti-aircraft fire. Inside U.S. paratroopers are hooking up to stag lines ready to jump. The jump Sergeant begins to call out names. “Murtha” the sarge bellows. “Here sir” a soldier answers then jumps. “Cleland”, Sergeant shouts! “Here sarge” a soldier answers then jumps. “Kerry”, Sergeant screams. “Aye aye sir” a soldier responds then jumps. “Cheney,” the sergeant shouts….silence except for hum of aircraft engines and explosions from anti-aircraft fire…”Dick Cheney,”the sarge repeats …silence aircraft hum explosions…”Bush,”.sarge calls out..silence…hum of engines explosions…”George W. Bush”… silence…

    scene fades to black and caption:

    “Who honors their service?”

    Hey Judd,

    …maybe you can use your new found celebrity to get this on air…

    …pronto…


  76. Sharon Cox says:

    Kerry just apolagized formaly to the troop’s on CNN….Now the troll’s can STFU and pick another topic like maybe getting bull shit bush to appogize to the world for being the cause of 700.000 deaths by neglect or design….Blessings


  77. FLavorFLAAAAVE says:

    kerry doesn’t have to apologize to the troops. the troops know it. we (with human, not lizard) brains know it. but BUSH does. Not only for perpetuating a misstatement as truth, but for EVERYTHING else he’s responsible for as a traitorous president of the united states. Roger, Roger that Exley? 10-4?

    he DID apologize for mispeaking his joke, for which I and MANY MORE GLADLY accept his apology :D :D :D

    thanks, Mr. Kerry, it is nice of you to try and make nice and not hurt the poor poor repubs feelings! even though their ears are clogged and their brains are stuck on stupid.

    AH WELL, they are after all still grasping for something, ANYTHING to keep them afloat, and it was a nice psyche out to throw them an unintentional “life preserver” that’s really just a life saver candy as they drown in their own miserable feces of an excuse for their bullsh@t war and bullsh@t holier than thou “support” for the troops, as IF they spoke for the troops any old way.

    roger and exlax, erm exlee, keep trying buddies! for heaven’s sake don’t let it die! keep the iraq war on the minds of our citizens as they go out and go vote! you’re doing us a great favor and we sincerely, sincerely, hope to return it to you a thousand fold in the coming years.

    ROFLMAO smells like desperation everywhere these days….


  78. hellinabucket says:

    Let’s see. One apology from a Senator whose not running for re-election. This will backfire big time. Writers and the media from all sides are asking “who else should apologize and for what”.

    Many issues worthy of an apology have already been written here and the nation will be asking those same questions tomorrow, and the next day, and the next……….


  79. Exley says:

    #77….Yeah, DRx, That’s all he had to do….

    (I DO think reading the statement at a presser would have been better than just issuing a written statement…I mean, he was quick to run before the cameras yesterday to make his defiant, “I apologize to no one” remarks….But that’s a fairly minor point…He apologized. Good enough).


  80. Lisa says:

    As Sheeplike and uninterested as many Americans are, I say this whole thing backfires on the right. Pretty much everyone sees through this BS by now, as is evident by such low Bush approval rating over the last couple of years. The right is making a huge mistake carrying this very minicsule point,flub, whatever over the top. Overcompensation such as this looks foolish.


  81. TritoneSubstitution says:

    I love that idea Big Papa! I think it’s static line, not stag line,NTIM.


  82. Preznit+Pinhead says:

    Yeah, Tony–the death of one of our brave men & women is “just a number” to you. Just like the war is a “comma” to Bush (who was so brave that he went AWOL from the Air National Guard).

    But yeah, the “liberal media” breathlessly go after John Kerry (who actually SERVED in Vietnam) about this flop of a joke that was supposed to be about the spoiled brat who some call president.

    C’mon rightties, put your money where your big fat mouths are and get down to the recruiter’s office post-haste.


  83. COMMENT+BY+JIM says:

    I keep reading where several people on this thread keeps saying Kerry apologized. Hmmmmmm. Go to Kerry’s website and read his statement, not apology, about what he said. Poor Kerry needs everyones help, his silver foot is now lodged in is mouth.


  84. chimpeach says:

    #38 Happy Guy

    Your honey Sen Hillary Clinton is asking Swift Boat John to apologize now. So let’s hear what you have to say now? Should he? Did he? Is Hillary wrong or is Kerry wrong?

    ROTFL, can’t have it both ways lefties, ROTFL

    Your honey gets out of rehab tomorrow. Will you be there waiting for him when he comes in the door? Will you forgive him for chasing after all those younger guys?


  85. katy says:

    #66, thanks Katy, your google skills are obviously better than mine…
    Comment by Mikey — November 1, 2006 @ 4:10 pm

    you’re welcome… here’s an invaluable lesson – my DAUGHTER showed me:
    just copy and paste a line of copy (headline) into the search box at goodle OR news.google (depending – in this case it was google news)

    …The media is reporting it that way even as we speak. Our real nemesis… the irresponsible media.
    Comment by TritoneSubstitution — November 1, 2006 @ 4:15 pm

    exactly! look at the headline of the article i found… there is no actual correlation between that and the story content… maddening…
    .


  86. big+papa says:

    OOPS…

    Thanks TS #86…

    …must’ve had a flashback to those party days…


  87. Squidbilly says:

    Tony Snow doesnt’ read the papers or watch TV like his boss.
    Pathetic.


  88. Jkelly says:

    oh, sharon cox….

    yea, he finally did it, ha! i would’ve like to hear the convers between him and his handler —- ahhhh, do I hafta, do I, do I?????

    a buffoon that will cost the dems any traction.

    I don’t really care.

    However, having a tightfaced Pelosi as Speaker….. that was scary.

    Happy Post Halloween!


  89. chimpeach says:

    #93 Jkelly

    However, having a tightfaced Pelosi as Speaker….. that was scary.

    I guess you’d rather stick with the pumpkin-headed Haster.


  90. ForTruth says:

    Only 364 days until Halloween, yay!


  91. PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) says:

    I’m still waiting for BushCo to apologize for labelling as “unAmerican” those of us who oppose the war in Iraq in general and in its operation.

    Kerry should NOT apologize to the troops, because he did not insult the troops. Others should apologize for saying that he did, which brought the suggestion that troops are stupid to public attention.


  92. VaVoter says:

    What gets me is, how many troops in Iraq do you suppose are registered Democrats? And what do you suppose they’re thinking when they hear Bush going around the country shouting about how Democrats want to lose the war, are weak on terror, are cowards and all the other trash talk his vile mouth spews? Kerry’s only a Senator….Bush is the freakin Commander in Cheif!! And he’s been trashing our registered Democratic troops for years and even more vehemently the last couple weeks! It’s scary I haven’t heard anyone else make this comparison…


  93. mattm says:

    are we REALLY STILL talking about this…. damn lets move on


  94. JustJohn says:

    Sorry if you have seen this in another post but it is worth watching:

    http://static.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/whoshouldapologize_0001.jpg


  95. Karim says:

    what a douchebag.



  96. AvengingAngel says:

    Kerry’s joke may have failed, bt from Iraq, WMD, Dubai, the class war and even the Cheney hunting accident, President Bush’s sick sense of humor shows the joke is on us.

    For the details, see:
    “Kerry’s Failed Joke, Bush’s Sick Humor.”


  97. Lauren says:

    Honestly… the Republican party also has a LOT they need to apologize for… and in the words of Snow “it’s really not that hard to just say I’m sorry”…


  98. a+dying+citizen says:

    Anyone with more than three active brain cells can see by reading all the above posts, who is actually a true adult that has put in their time, or somewhat childlike and inexperienced. I did my military time and fought in what a lot of people have classified as a useless war (vietnam) and believe me when I tell you, soldiers couldn’t care less about petty words exchanged back and forth between the undecisive morons of our country. This he said/she said crap means absolutely NOTHING when you are ducking and dodging bullets. We just don’t want to die.
    You can agree or disagree, but if you want TRUE resolve it’s very easily secured!!! Send Bush, Cheney, Rummy and their crew over to Iraq and watch and see how quick this is resolved. I’m quite confident that they would be back on our soil in record speed. It’s extremely easy for people to sit in an office and give directives to others as long as “they” don’t have to get directly involved. Send the political machine to Iraq and the “war” would end tomorrow I assure you. BUT let us not forget how much money is being made by some in washington by this little war, BIG MONEY.
    For all of you that never served, let the bashing begin, show the rest of us the inexperience you carry from post to post, just don’t get too excited when sympathy doesn’t come your way, but at the same time try and understand from a soldiers point of view how things really are before you sling insults all over the net.
    “IF YOU LOVE YOUR FREEDOM, THANK A VET”
    I wish NOT to offend anyone here, but I request a little understanding before the criticising continues. Now show your maturity.


  99. BeenThere says:

    If anyone called the troops stupid its Bush and Cheny. Remember the advice he was given about how many troops are needed in post war Iraq? Remember advice he got about not disbanding the Iraq Army because it would send aalmost a half million into unemployment? Remember all the generals who wrote letters in opposition. Remember the comments about Rummy being arrogant and disrespectful? Armor for vehicles? And lets not forget he has had the military lower their standards. Now if George thinks his Generals are stupid and ignores their advice completely, what do you think he thinks of the lower ranks?


  100. pete says:

    this little snot appeared numerous times with rush limpdick, need i say any more?


  101. Willy says:

    Those Republicans have no ethics. How low can then sink?


  102. Willy says:

    Republican’s feigned outrage is very tiresome. An ethical Republican is an oxymoron.


  103. Pablo says:

    New American Foreign Policy strategy.
    “We’re Sorry”, how hard can it be.

    Will the world accept…lets try and see.



  104. GOP Bad says:

    “Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.” ~~ Henry Kissinger as quoted in the book “Kiss the Boys Goodbye”


  105. Perdizes says:

    This is some kind of sick joke! Do you have anything better to do, like saving the lives of our men and women in uniform. Did Bush and his crime syndicate apologize for the almost 3,000 American deaths and the over 15,000 seriously wounded servicemen and woman. Or apologize to the hundred of thousands Iraquis whom have lost their lives. Or apologize to “no WMD’s”, the real reason for going to war, etc. etc ad naseum!!! This is why our country is going to fall and fall hard!!!! Clueless!!!


  106. Gun Freak says:

    #113–Comment by Perdizes — November 1, 2006 @ 10:45 pm

    NO ACTUALLY IT’S GONNA FALL HARD FROM MORON’S LIKE YOU
    WHO HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT’S GOING ON IN THAT SIDE OF THE WORLD (EXCEPT WHAT YOUR WATCHING TV OF COURSE)
    WEATHER YOU BELIEVE SO OR NOT, OUR TROOPS
    KEEP NIEVE PEOPLE LIKE YOU FREE TO HAVE OPINIONS LIKE YOU DO ABOUT OUR GOVERNMENT.
    HAVE A NICE DAY IN THE FREE WORLD, PAL!


  107. Audrey says:

    Exley, Roger Roger, Kevin, Happy Guy, JKelly, Douglas G, Jim, and Gun Freak.
    Please apologize now for being stupid. Please apologize for not being in Iraq dodging bullets and bombs. Please apologize for voting for the worst president ever. You are now in the minority. Get Over It! Take a nap.


  108. disgrunt » Where Was The Outcry After Bush’s Iraq Joke? says:

    [...] White House propagandist Tony Snow, taking the bait from a fellow Fox News alumni, waxed lyrical today about how Kerry should immediately apologize for his comments, hours after he had already done so. [...]


  109. greenback says:

    Bush makes fun of the reasons soldiers signed up for the Iraq war at a Press Dinner and in the days following the affair. He did an entire tasteless schtick about not being able to find the WMD. Good young men and women dead, sacraficing their lives so that all of us home in the USA don’t have to suffer a nuclear catastrophe. And this creep Bush, who happens to have gone AWOL during his bogus service duty, he makes jokes with thousands of loved ones of the heroes having to take his insults as if it is some sort of royalty or monarchy in place were people are property of the king. I’m disgusted more and more day by day.


  110. pete says:

    snow is the person who should apologise, for being bush’s propoganda minister, for spinning everything that does’t suit the little dictator, bush.


  111. Where Was The Outcry After Bush’s Iraq Joke? « Oldthinker news says:

    [...] White House propagandist Tony Snow, taking the bait from a fellow Fox News alumni, waxed lyrical today about how Kerry should immediately apologize for his comments, hours after he had already done so. [...]


  112. jds says:

    From Kerry’s record… FLAME ON!!

    During a Vietnam-era run for Congress three decades ago, John Kerry said he opposed a volunteer Army because it would be dominated by the underprivileged, be less accountable and be more prone to “the perpetuation of war crimes.”

    Kerry, a decorated Vietnam veteran who turned against the war, made the observations in answers to a 1972 candidate questionnaire from a Massachusetts peace group.

    After Kerry caused a firestorm this week with what he termed a botched campaign joke that Republicans said insulted current soldiers, The Associated Press was alerted to the historical comments by a former law enforcement official who monitored 1970s anti-war activities…

    …In 1972, as he ran for the House, he was less apologetic in his comments about the merits of a volunteer army. He declared in the questionnaire that he opposed the draft but considered a volunteer army “a greater anathema.”

    “I am convinced a volunteer army would be an army of the poor and the black and the brown,” Kerry wrote. “We must not repeat the travesty of the inequities present during Vietnam. I also fear having a professional army that views the perpetuation of war crimes as simply ‘doing its job.’

    “Equally as important, a volunteer army with our present constitutional crisis takes accountability away from the president and put the people further from control over military activities,” he wrote.

    …Kerry filled out the candidate questionnaire at the request of Massachusetts Political Action for Peace, an anti-war group that decades later turned over its historical documents to university researchers.


  113. Malky says:

    ‘I am sorry” are three words.


  114. cheryl says:

    Tony Snow is a dumbass!!!!! I think that same press needs to ask the little jerk weed when is Mr. Bush going to apologize to the American public for lying to them about weapons of mass destruction and starting a war based on lies; when is he going to apologize for sending almost 3000 men and women to their deaths in Iraq after his lie and taunt “bring em on,” when is he going to apologize to the Katrina victims for playing a guitar on vacation rather than go help them; when is he going to apologize to the victims of 9-11 for allowing the terrorists to slam planes into the buildings when he knew damn well there was a potential terrorist act involving planes; when is he going to apologize for giving billionaires tax breaks at the expense of the middle class; when is he going to apologize for wiretapping domestic calls; when is he going to apologize for stealing the last two elections and sending our nation into a skyrocketing national debt that we will never get out from under-this evil man is a crook and his final apology hopefully will be as he leaves a court on his way to a jail cell where he belongs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  115. pete says:

    who is snow anyway, nothing but another little troll in bush’s house of trolls. his job is to fabricate and lie, but hey, that’s what the repugs do best.


  116. Redleg says:

    JDS,
    What did A.W.O.L. Bush do during the Vietnam war? How about that bad-ass chickenhawk, Dick Cheney? Neither of them are fit to pour piss out of John Kerry’s combat boots.


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