Anti-Gay Evangelical Leader Resigns After Accusations of Gay Affair
Anti-Gay Evangelical Leader Resigns After Accusations of Gay Affair
Ted Haggard, one of the most prominent and politically powerful evangelical pastors in the country, resigned today as president of the 30-million-member National Association of Evangelicals “amid allegations that he carried on a three-year sexual relationship with a male prostitute.” (Details HERE.) The AP reports:
Haggard…also stepped down as senior pastor at his 14,000-member New Life Church pending an investigation by a church panel, saying he could “not continue to minister under the cloud created by the accusations.”
“I am voluntarily stepping aside from leadership so that the overseer process can be allowed to proceed with integrity,” Haggard said in a written statement. “I hope to be able to discuss this matter in more detail at a later date. In the interim, I will seek both spiritual advice and guidance.”
The former prostitute who made the accusations, Mike Jones, also today showed the Denver Post letters and voicemails allegedly sent by Haggard:
Jones says he was contacted three years ago by Haggard for sex – he thinks through a gay newspaper advertisement or an online ad he posted on rentboy.com.
Today, Jones showed the Denver Post an envelope addressed to him from “Art,” a name Jones says Haggard used – sent from an address in Colorado Springs. Jones said the envelope came to him with two $100 bills inside.
Jones also played a recording of a voicemail left for Jones from “Art.” Jones refused to reveal what the topic of the voicemail was about because there could be legal problems and he wants to consult with an attorney.
Haggard has called homosexuality a “sin” and “devastating for the children of our nation and for the future of Western civilization.”
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Gee – I’m shocked.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:33 pmThe squeeky clean facade of evangelical christianity, as practiced in the formerly free States of America, comes crashing down… to reveal… homosexual activities, pedophilia, wife/girlfriend beating, greed, deception, misleadership, and an entire structure that is rotten to it’s very core.
Welcome to the Republican party!
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:34 pmWow, talk about divine intervention.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:34 pmhttp://www.tedhaggard.com/
Be sure to write Ted and tell him how sorry you are to hear the news…
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:35 pmFrom the originating thread:
“I don’t believe it. The gay male is just attempting to attack Christians. Mr. Hagaard is a God fearing man. Just another ploy created by liberals, but Jesus’ will shall prevail November 7, 2006. ”
Comment by Daryll — November 2, 2006 @ 1:42 pm
Bwa ha ha ha ha.
Put down the koolaid and start smelling the coffee, man.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:35 pmThis poor god fearing man was rear ended by the liberal media!
Maybe its time to stop believing these rolex wearing, Mercedes driving supposed men of faith are godly people, eh?
There is absolutely no way this guy would have step down if he was not guilty.
On a funny note – who the hell ever heard of a male prostitute in his fifties?!
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:36 pmMe too. Who coulda thunk it?
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:37 pmBut at least he didn’t try to marry the male hooker while on crank, after all, THAT would be immoral and destroy the sanctity of marriage.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:37 pmthe value voters sure seem to be losing alot of value voters as of late….
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:38 pmI’ll do you one better from the previous thread:
Funny I thought solicitation and doing meth were against the law. Guess it’s legal to do crank and hire hookers to have sex with you in Colorado. Learn something new everyday.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:39 pmGosh, Jimmy Swaggart just seems so innocent now in comparison. I’d take odds Dr. Dobson has a closet full of naughty skeletons too.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:41 pmThe AP has picked up the story and it is being front paged on lots of newspaper sites.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:41 pmThis is exactly why the Republican Party needs to stop using religion as a crutch to beat other people over the head. There are too many gay Republicans who hide in the closet and scream loudly about how gays immoral. What they don’t tell the evangelicals is that a large number of these gay bashing congressional leaders are in fact gay themselves. Mark Foley was just the tip of the iceberg and the religious right will wake up to discover that even their leaders are gay too.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:43 pmHello Karma!
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:44 pmChuckLA – good point. What ever happened to that “vow of poverty” thing….
As for a 50 yr old male prostitute – hey, to each his own, not every gay guy is looking for some young twink…:)
Oh, and if you watch the view of the interview with him, while he denied having sex, he wasn’t very emphatic about it. I’m waiting for the Jim Bakker moment.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:44 pmJust when the GOP had their flock comnvinced that what is wrong with America is gay people and their threat to marriage. Pastor Ted will soon see that it isn’t the gay sex people care about it’s the lying and hypocracy that ultimately brought him down.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:44 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGeL1yFeK6I&eurl=
That is Richard Dawkins’ documentary “Religion: THe Root Of All Evil?”. In this clip, Richard confronts our homosexual friend, Mr. Haggard. He introduces the chruch 1 minute into the clip.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:48 pmHa! That PROVES he’s not a closet homosexual!
That’ll teach all them liburals who think that the homophobic Christanic right wing extremist Party are filled with closet fags!
Good frocking grief. The Republinazi Christofascist party is packed end to end with closet, self-hating homosexual hypocrits.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:49 pmIs there any GOP leader who is not a closet queen?
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:49 pmFrom the originating thread:
paul, this is the work of libs to try to divert non-partisan voters over to their party, but it will not work.
Comment by Daryll — November 2, 2006 @ 1:52 pm
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…..
Imagine those dirty libs, putting together such a clever conspiracy plan: plan a fake gay man advertising in a gay rag, then lure the unsuspecting Man of Gawd into answering the ad, lure the Man of Gawd into a laison, and then spend 3 years taking it up the Hershey Highway, all for the good of the lib cause so the Man of Gawd could be unfairly portrayed as a miserable low-life hypocrite a few days before the Gawd-fearing electorate is to be lead by the scrotum to the polls to vote for Gawd-fearing Republicans.
Wow, for a group of people renowned for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, this was quite a well orchestrated plan for the Dems, wasn’t it?
But thank Gawd Haggard has been “steady with his wife”.
And all this time, we thought that enforced celibacy drove men of Gawd to hommasecshiality, but this dude has 5 (FIVE!) kids.
Darryl, Paul, et al, watch out when you get to heaven. Don’t bend over to pick up the soap. Those clouds are filled with those nasty, dirty hommasecshuls.
Or if you’re quick, you can convert to Islam. Then you can escape the hommasecshuls by killing yourself and getting your 72 virgins.
‘Course nobody says the virgins are necessarily girls. Hmmmm…
I can’t even say I’m sorry for this guy’s kids, because even though they have to go through the humiliation of seeing their dad for what he is (miserable hypocritical slimebag), at least they have the opportunity to break free of the hammerlock of religious insanity and lead lives more connected to rationality.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:50 pmHe looks really hot…
Do you think he’s free sometime soon?
Actually, he’s ugly, but there you go…
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:50 pmDont worry Ted. The democrats will defend your rights also.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:54 pmThe phenomenon is not that uncommon.
If a person is ultra-zealous, often it is at the expense of his/her human character and sexuality. I almost is a schziophrenia ; you have this ultra zelous side; and the evil (sexual) side that cannot express itself, but in the worst ways.
This is not unlike the pedophiles hiding in the robes of Catholic Priestdom, or the halls of congress (ala Foley).
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:54 pmGet behind me Satan!
> This poor god fearing man was rear ended by the liberal media!
And literally rear ended by fellow Republican “Jeff Gannon.”
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:55 pmGay ministers all over Colorado Springs are saying their prayers tonight with an enthusiasm they haven’t felt since seminary school.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:55 pmOT:
Dem’s will take Senate, Win 34-40 House Seats
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:55 pmGOP should change their initials to VBC – Very Big Closet.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:56 pmMost important is they are liar, dishonest and imhumanity
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:57 pmOh. My. God.
Schadenfreude abounds.
November 2nd, 2006 at 7:58 pmNovember 2nd, 2006 at 8:04 pm
PAUL, DARYLL, & EXLEY Your table for three is ready. Tonight we will be serving CROW. Enjoy.
What is it with your defective authortarian brown shirt lustings? Why do you salute failure, place ideology before results, pary before people?
Why do you hate America and its values.
Oh BTW, save the sanctimonious pious drivel response you have NO CREDEBILITY.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:05 pmHeh! he said semen mary!
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:05 pmJohn Kerry has just been jettisoned out of the news cycle.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:06 pmHaa Mother F’ing Ha you lying right wing scumbags!
My born again mother in law goes nuts when I bring up these stories. I just have to to have a nice laugh with myself.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:07 pmOn CNN’s Situation Room, a very uncomfortable Moral Majority founder and Liberty University president Jerry Falwell denied to Paula Zahn that knew Ted Haggard, the now disgraced former head of the National Association of Evangelicals. As with so much else, Falwell has it utterly wrong.
For the details on Falwell and Haggard’s past partnerships, see:
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:08 pm“Falwell Denies Haggard Links.”
absolutely frightening. the “megachurch” crowd always seemed out of touch and hypocritical, but this is pure evil.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:09 pmKerry didn’t even make the 36 hour memory hole benchmark =8P
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:09 pmBeing reported on Fox News, believe it or not!
Haggard, a 1978 graduate of Oral Roberts University,
Well, this explains it. What else would you learn at Oral Bob U.?
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:10 pmWhere is Daryll? Why is he not still defending Ted like he did in the original thread?
I don’t believe it. The gay male is just attempting to attack Christians. Mr. Hagaard is a God fearing man. Just another ploy created by liberals, but Jesus’ will shall prevail November 7, 2006.
–Daryll
It’s just another ploy created by Liberals.
– Daryll
paul, this is the work of libs to try to divert non-partisan voters over to their party, but it will not work.
–Daryll
I’m laughing so hard…….
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:11 pmWell apparently the Gawd Fearin’ Ted went nuts as well… for 3 years it seems. (wry grin)
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:11 pmWhile the Dem faithful concentrate on some fag preacher and his lewd affair, the Dem leaders sabotage their chances by advocating gay marriage, trashing our military men, and spouting off about raising taxes.
Great plan. Rove couldn’t be happier with it.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:13 pmMust stop reading blog….. story too funny…. comments make me laugh most hard….too many jokes come too mind….focus.. breath…better now.
37. Hilarious!
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:15 pmYou can bet that wherever they are tonight, James Dobson and Tony Perkins are taking a hot, hot shower.
Heck, maybe even together.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:15 pmAnd here on planet earth, your fabricated BS didn’t happen.
p.s. Fag? wow… you also say “n*gger” when talking about Harold Ford Jr. ?
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:16 pm# 17 NewNameAcquired
Excellent film thanks for the link. American Taliban, not good vs evil but evil vs evil. Wow.
The apes are loose in the laboratory experiment, and they have invented religion. They also don’t notice they are soiling themselves.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:18 pmDaryll, if you are out there praying, ask God when the asteroid is coming to turn the lights out.
Where is Daryll? Where are the rest of the trolls, who are so quick to call us devil worshippers?
Maybe they are praying for Ted Haggard’s soul.
Now, how long until Ted is in rehab for his gayness?
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:18 pmPaster Ted Haggard said it was all a lie until the proof was shown then he resign. I guess Pasters don’t have to tell the truth only the people they preach to. Just think of this man who was a phone call away from the President and preaching the word of God to fight gays is one. Who’s next to come out of the closet. Christians can forgive for an affair now lets see if can can forgive a Paster for having an affair with a man. Oh those family values/morals. I remember how Paster Haggard put down Clinton for having an affair as did the GOP. God is really trying to help America open it’s eyes to the truth. History is repeating itself as Christians called out to kill Jesus only to say afterward sorry now we have Christrians using Gods name and doing the actions/orders of Satan. Satan does it again this time putting Bush and his team on the leadership trail to sin. Let’s see what the Christians do Nov. 7th
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:18 pmAnd I continue to pray that those who know of the crimes of this Administration continue to come forward with testimony and evidence of wrongdoing.
One by one the cords holding the web of deceit are being cut.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:19 pmIt’s our poor Daryll.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:19 pmWhile one cannot conclude that this accusation will prove to be true, the man bringing the allegation has been in the Denver and Colorado Springs area for some time. His advertisements for services have appeared in local gay publications for a number of years and it wouldn’t make a lot of sense for him to come forward without sufficient and accurate information to prove his claims. That is simply speculation on my part but it would seem like a huge mistake if his story is a fabrication. My hunch is that the information will bear the coming scrutiny and that the pastor’s secrets are about to be exposed.
If Jesus was to be our example, then I don’t understand this thing we now call Christian values. Pastor Haggard may believe that he speaks for God but his actions suggest that he merely fears his own humanity. Further, if the values he espouses exist to demonstrate his faith in the God he knows, then the God he knows must have already seen this element of his humanity that he cannot personally accept…which would mean that any true God has already accepted that which we humans won’t and would also prove that the God Haggard purports to represent is not a real God but a God of his own creation designed to serve his flawed view of the human condition.
Read more here:
http://www.thoughttheater.com
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:20 pm#20 Gorn – good post! LMAO!
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:20 pmWow! First, they find out that everyone at the White House is funnin’ them and now they find out that their Grand Poobah takes it where the sun don’t shine. This outta drive them thar value voters to the polls. See ya all Nov 7. . Just another friggin’ Christian hypocrite.
ROTF
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:20 pmand spouting off about raising taxes.
Great plan. Rove couldn’t be happier with it.
Comment by John
How the hell else are we going to get out of the 9 TRILLION dollar debt?
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:20 pmI will continue to promote Jesus’ laws
Comment by Daryll — November 2, 2006 @ 4:41 pm
Hey, Darryl, what about “Thou shalt not bear false witness.”
Are you ready to apologize to the “libs” you accused of plots? Are you ready to denounce your Gawd-fearing leader?
Can’t wait to see the next round of rationalization (as close to rational as you are able to get, methinks).
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:22 pm[...] Think Progress: Ted Haggard, one of the most prominent and politically powerful evangelical pastors in the country, resigned today as president of the 30-million-member National Association of Evangelicals “amid allegations that he carried on a three-year sexual relationship with a male prostitute.†(Details HERE.) [...]
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:23 pmI’m shocked that yet another Conservative leader is hungry for young men and drugs!
As a responsible Republican, I will refuse to condone this behavior, and so I’ll stay at home on Election day. To vote for these men would truly be a sin!
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:24 pm“Another One Bites the Dust” hey, hey!
Oral Roberts University, ROFL! What irony!
Beautiful! You guys are on a roll tonight, truly hilarious!
THANKS!!!
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:26 pmAnd along comes the first bootlicking troll. Good job.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:27 pmhahaha. two top wingnut responses here
1) it’s all a liberal conspiracy
2) it’s part of Rove’s cunning plan (?!)
sorry folks, this is a much better story than Kerry’s bashing the troops. this one might even be true, and if not, who cares? the ends justify the means, right? ;) i think dems can almost just watch the GOP self destruct now… but don’t!
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:27 pmDon’t be too hard on poor old Ted, I’m sure he is an alcoholic and/or a victim of some sort of molestation.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:29 pm# 40 Comment by John -While the Dem faithful concentrate …..
John, how does it feel to be no better than a ‘fag’ and no better than any other person of any color, race or gender on the planet? Yes you. Not better than a single other soul. Actually no better than any other form of life soul or not. That includes algea and fungus.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:34 pmThats your life.
The GOP has not been conservative since before Reagan. They are Fright-Wing radicals and theocon authoritarians who have said, repeatedly and explicitly that fiscal sanity (i.e. deficits) don’t matter. Democrats under Clinton balance budgets, shrunk the Fed. Gov. to it’s smallest since Johnson and had a sane foreign policy. Democrats and progressives are not the problem, but the solution… and will gladly welcome the remaining sane paleocon GOPers (I was a GOP until the mid 1980s) into the fold. Together we can actually put America back on track.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:35 pmWhile the Dem faithful concentrate on some fag preacher and his lewd affair, the Dem leaders sabotage their chances by advocating gay marriage, trashing our military men, and spouting off about raising taxes.
Comment by John — November 2, 2006 @ 8:13 pm
Ahhhhhh hahahahahahaha… please stop, I can’t take much more of this. Just too funny to be really happening. I haven’t had this much of a laugh since the last bible-thumper self-immolation (Jimmy Bakker, Tammy Faye, Jimmy Swaggart…)
So now we are “concentrating” on “some fag preacher”! So yesterday, this preacher was a Gawd-fearing Man of Gawd representing Gawd’s hatred for gays, followed by MILLIONS of koolaid drinking “evangelicals”. Today, you dismiss him as “some fag preacher”.
And Dem leaders “sabotage their chances” by supporting gay marriage? Let me tell you, the dufus hypocrite republicans and theo-fascist evangelicals have done far more to promote the cause of gay marriage by showcasing how lewd and disgusting they are in comparison to the typical gay “married” couple which is ordinary (other than organ placement) and decent.
And “trashing our military men”? Let’s see how John thinks: “If I close my eyes and wish real hard, maybe I can ignore reality and make fantasy come true!!” Yeah, a decorated war combat vet is trashing the military, while cowardly dodgers are the military’s hero? Yeah, right, and our great military people aren’t being killed thanks to the ineptitude of your leadership, right? And the central front on terror is at bin Laden’s hiding place in the spider hole in Tikrit, right? Wow, please don’t pass around whatever you’re smokin’.
And “raising taxes”? Yep, that’s the central proposition of every Democrat on the ballot, isn’t it? Meanwhile, Republicans have raped and beaten our future by racking up the most huge debt in history. Amazing what 12 consecutive years of total control by the “fiscally conservative” party can do, isn’t it?
Great plan. Rove couldn’t be happier with it.
Yup, Rove is looking realllly great right now, isn’t he? Better set of a nuclear bomb in Cincinatti within the next day or two if he’s gonna save this turkey. Even orchestrating Saddam’s death sentence on Nov 5th isn’t going to make a dent.
Is there any possibility that “John” is the penname of “Rove”?
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:38 pmHAHahaha no, of course he didn’t do it. HAhahaha thats why he is resigning. The parishoners even were planning a support rally and were asked by the church to cancel it. Just another closeted, self-loathing jerk from the right. I wonder what he told his wife when he traveled to Denver for some meth and a blow job. Hahahahaha
http://www.getsomejosh.com
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:39 pmGorn at #62 hits another one out-of-the-park. Well done sir or madame.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:46 pmThis is the bestest and funniest group of comments about anything I’ve ever seen anywhere! The king ain’t wearin’ no clothes tonight! Yeeee-ha!
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:48 pmI’d never seen Ted before. The gaydar is definitely going off with that photo…
It makes me feel bad for the large majority of gays who are moral, peaceful people that mind their own business, because it reinforces the stereotype that gays are perverts – even though there exponentially are more straight Republican perverts diddling little girls…
Hypocrites.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:49 pmIsn’t he the wacko from Dawkins’ Root of All Evil documentary (That was bloody awesome, I might add)?
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:50 pmSorry if this is a repeat comment… but isn’t this the wacko from Dawkins’ The Root of All Evil documentary?
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:53 pmThis from CBS News: , bus driver, bus driver…
School bus driver fired for flipping off Bush. Of course, the termination wasn’t politically-motivated what-so-ever. Uh huh.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:53 pm#66 It makes me feel bad for the large majority of gays who are moral, peaceful people that mind their own business, because it reinforces the stereotype that gays are perverts
I know what you mean, but…
Ted doesn’t make gays look bad anymore than Swaggert made straights look bad. Gayness and straightness isn’t the issue. Hypocrisy, lying, cheating, stealing, doping, lawbreaking, etc., is the issue.
Evil is not a reflection of how you share your body organs with consenting adults. Evil is a reflection of what kind of human being you are. I don’t care what Ted did with his boy toy (well, middle-aged man toy), but I do care that he metaphorically raped the 30 million followers he has been misleading with lies and hate disguised as truth and love.
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:57 pmComment:
“I don’t believe it. The gay male is just attempting to attack Christians. Mr. Hagaard is a God fearing man. Just another ploy created by liberals, but Jesus’ will shall prevail November 7, 2006. â€
Comment by Daryll — November 2, 2006 @ 1:42 pm
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What earth do you live on? Those that have said one thing and done another are falling out of the closet left and right…well on the Right at least. Its like Christians today are so blind and mind controlled, that they miss what Jesus was truly saying. Christ wanted people to only have faith in him…NOT OTHER PEOPLE. Anyone can say that they are for Christ an rip you off, and you would turn right around and let them do it again and again. Why do you believe the PedoCon’s lies? They just disarm you with a smile, and you believe. When I see, hear Homophobes…this study comes to mind:
Researchers at the University of Georgia conducted an experiment involving 35 homophobic men and 29 non-homophobic men as measured by the Index of Homophobia scale. All the participants selected for the study described themselves as exclusively heterosexual both in terms of sexual arousal and experience.
Each participant was exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual and lesbian videotapes (but not necessarily in that order). Their degree of sexual arousal was measured by penile plethysmography, which precisely measures and records male tumescence.
Men in both groups were aroused by about the same degree by the video depicting heterosexual sexual behavior and by the video showing two women engaged in sexual behavior. The only significant difference in degree of arousal between the two groups occurred when they viewed the video depicting male homosexual sex: ‘The homophobic men showed a significant increase in penile circumference to the male homosexual video, but the control [non-homophobic] men did not.’
November 2nd, 2006 at 8:58 pmJosh P – great post on your site – my son and I just about spewed Halloween candy all over the monitor laughing so hard – the headline caught us by surprise, LOL! But Josh, you are so right… I do not care personally if anyone is gay, straight, bi, whatever… I do not judge others on a basis of sexuality as an issue of their “humanity’ or their “worth”, or “faith” or anything else for that matter – despite what people like “Teddy” preach. To each his own! But do not preach the “evils” of an issue, and maintain that lifestyle “in the closet”. These hypocrites are making anyone who is gay look horrible, and that is the true crime.
Miserable Hypocrites!
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:01 pmGullibility is a widely shared trait among Evangelical Christians and other right wing religious types. I have observed again and again that the most fervently religious of the people I know are consistently poor judges of character. They are suckered again and again by sweet talkers wearing business suits and proclaiming “traditional” values. Daryll seems like a good example, judging from his naive comments posted here. So it isn’t surprising that the Rebublican political leaders have been able to use and abuse this cohort of suckers for decades now, even though it is obvious to most of us that these Republicans are essentially amoral people.
When will the suckers ever learn? Probably never, if they haven’t learned by now.
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:06 pmHe said plethysmography, heh, heh, heh, heh.
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:13 pmTed doesn’t make gays look bad anymore than Swaggert made straights look bad. Gayness and straightness isn’t the issue. Hypocrisy, lying, cheating, stealing, doping, lawbreaking, etc., is the issue.
We know that, but the neocons will use it to perpetrate their lies about homosexuality. All they will see is the gay part, and not the real issues you listed above.
Evil is not a reflection of how you share your body organs with consenting adults. Evil is a reflection of what kind of human being you are. Comment by gorn — November 2, 2006 @ 8:57 pm
Agreed. It’s why the Bible is the biggest piece of violent propaganda for hatred, murder and so on, and why I reject it.
If I had a child that I was going to put up for adoption, I would sooner give that child to a loving gay couple than staright people like Tom Cruise and his Corpse Bride…
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:16 pmIt’s looking more and more like a plurality of those who are the most anti-gay actually are gay. It ought to be a question the press asks every politician and religious leader who makes a business of hating gay people—Falwell first. Get every one of ‘em on the record.
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:18 pmThis man helped perpetuate a society where he could not be himself.
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:20 pmHis self-hatred is astounding.
Haggard + Bush = True Love?
Ted Haggard , the head of the 30-million strong National Association of Evangelicals, jokes that the only disagreement between himself and the leader of the Western world is automotive: Mr. Bush drives a Ford pickup, whereas he prefers a Chevy.
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:26 pmThe degree of hypocrisy exhibited by Republicans is truly frightening in scope. It arises in two distinct forms. The first form is embodied by Karl Rove and his ilk. Purely amoral, they will do anything and say anything to manipulate and deceive and win. Hypocrisy arises as a mere side effect of their outsized game of three card monty. The second form is embodied by gullible Christians like Daryll. They don’t actually create the hypocrisy through their direct actions, but they accept and even embrace the hypocritical actions of their leaders, for example President Bush, and so become hypocrites themselves. Admitting that they have been duped is so threatening to them that they will endlessly twist logic and fact to rationalize their observations. Thus they bring themselves to a position totally lacking in moral consistency, a position where there no longer is any intellectual or spiritual cost to hypocrisy. To admit they are wrong is threatening precisely because they have been trained to NOT think for themselves. Admitting that they are wrong about any single thing in their confused value system opens a Pandora’s box of fears that they are wrong about many things.
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:28 pmIf I had enough energy, I would totally go off. How about I just agree with RealScientist. He’s covered it.
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:32 pmI done prefer me a Toyoda pickup.
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:39 pm#72-
Thanks for the compliment. I was proud of the headline after I wrote it.
“Churchy McGodpants Likes His Religion with a Side of Meth and Di@K”
Haha
http://www.getsomejosh.com
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:41 pmThat’s a good idea, Truth.
I agree with RealScientist.
All the best people do, you know.
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:42 pmFalwell denied knowing Haggard on CNN but here’s an intimate high-level meeting all of them were at…Bush, Falwell and all of them probably enabled and protected his addictions because they liked the money and votes he pimped from his mega-church.
E-mail from Pastor Ted Haggard
This is the Nov. 7 e-mail that New Life Church Pastor Ted Haggard sent out describing his trip to Washington DC to witness President Bush as he signed the Partial Birth Abortion Act of 2003 and then hang out with him in the Oval Office.
From: Pastor Ted Haggard ted.haggard@newlifechurch.org>
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:24:45 -0700
Subject: FYI
Dear New Lifers and Friends of New Life Church,
I just wanted to send you a quick note telling about this week. Some of you might remember that several years ago I published on the back of our newsletter a sketch of the process a baby goes through when a partial birth abortion is performed on it. I received a lot of criticism for publishing that sketch, but thought it was worth the pressure because of the horrific nature of this procedure being conducted throughout our nation.
Well, on Monday I was in the World Prayer Center and my cell phone rang. It was one of the special assistants to President Bush calling from the White House. It turns out that when the President was reviewing the list of those attending the signing of the partial birth abortion ban, he asked why I wasn’t attending and asked that they call me. So the White House staff got onto the phones and were calling the NAE Washington office, our church office and my cell phone at the same time trying to see if I could come to the signing.
Of course I could. So I rearranged my schedule (thank you to those of you whose appointments got changed) and flew to Washington on Tuesday to be at the signing on Wednesday. I sat with those from the Senate and House who voted for the bill, and afterward was escorted to the President’s motorcade and taken to the White House. I and seven others were able to spend 55 minutes with the President in the Oval office discussing any issue we liked. It was incredible. I’ll tell you about the discussion in church.
Attending the private meeting with the President were Rev. Jerry Falwell from Liberty University, Janet Parshall, author and host of the nationally syndicated radio broadcast “Janet Parshall’s America,” Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) President Dr. Jack Graham, former SBC President Dr. Adrian Rogers, American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) Chief Counsel Jay Sekulow, National Religious Broadcasters President Frank Wright, and President of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission Dr. Richard Land.
Today I’m in Indianapolis. Most of you know that Pastor Scott Baur, the son-in-law of Dr. Jack Hayford and the the pastor of Church on the Way, unexpectedly went home to be with the Lord a few days ago. Because of that, Pastor Jack had to cancel some engagements, so I’m covering for him by speaking to a group of ministers at the RCA Dome in Indianapolis today.
So my whole week is responding to last minute situations. I wonder what Sunday will be like . . .
Thank you for praying for me. I love being your pastor.
Pastor Ted
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:43 pmForTruth (#80), Zooey (#83)
Thanks. I have resolved to improve the quality of my posts in response to Judd’s note on comments today. But I will still be coming down hard on the trolls.
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:48 pmBWA HA HA HA HA
Yet another hypocrite falls
I’m sure they’ll blame Clinton, though. . .
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:52 pmWhat ever happened to that “vow of poverty†thing….
It was consumed by that favorite of the new agers: Prosperity is my birthright. I don’t usually hate people without really knowing anything about them, but I really hate those people who have that bumper sticker,
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:57 pmI have resolved to improve the quality of my posts in response to Judd’s note on comments today. But I will still be coming down hard on the trolls.
Comment by RealScientist
You’re setting an excellent example.
I’ll probably start using two * instead of one in my swear words. :)
November 2nd, 2006 at 9:58 pm…
November 2nd, 2006 at 10:03 pm…
WoW. That was Fast! I figured this would be dragged out for a Few days at least!
#79
RealScientist hit it right on the nose with that post.
**Thumbs Up**
By the way, When Daryll shows back up he needs to be reminded that he owes Liberals an apology for his false accusations against the democrats over this story. Haggard, like Foley, did this to himself by being a hypocrit.
November 2nd, 2006 at 10:06 pmWell, Lordy, Lordy, how long before he enters an alcohol rehab center?
That Demon Rum!
Read on another blog: What did Pastor Ted say to the male prostitute? “Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.”
November 2nd, 2006 at 10:08 pmAnybody want to take me up on my bet that we won’t see one of these chickens if they lose on November 7th?
Comment by Spudge_Boy — November 2, 2006 @ 10:02 pm
I would say there’s a possibility that Jason Hendler will show up. He will either say he predicted and supported the Dem take-over as they had finally been whipped into shape by the Repugs – or he will be his usual detached from reality self and deny that there even was an election.
But otherwise, I’m with you. I think it’ll just be us regulars at the celebration… :)
November 2nd, 2006 at 10:12 pmAmen!
November 2nd, 2006 at 10:16 pmPAUL, DARYLL, & EXLEY? Hel-loooooo? Anybody there????
November 2nd, 2006 at 10:50 pmPAUL, DARYLL, & EXLEY? Hel-loooooo? Anybody there????
PAUL, DARYLL, & EXLEY? Hel-loooooo? Anybody there????
Having just heard the Pastor’s denial at Crooks and Liars, I couldn’t help but note how much he sounded like Duke Cunningham just a few weeks before he pleaded guilty. I think the pastor is now trying to buy some time to limit the damage to himself financially. I’ll bet he’s sold any interest he had in Jesus Camp, for instance.
November 2nd, 2006 at 10:56 pm#95
Comment by unbelievable
Man, I hope they show up. I’ve got a freezer full of crow, and a tasty new recipe! There’s generous serving for citizen dad, Exley, Hendler, Ben, and also a few squat-and-trotters who might show up for a quick bite.
November 2nd, 2006 at 11:04 pmBy the way, he DID NOT resign (at least, per CNN). According to CNN he ‘temporarily stepped down’
November 2nd, 2006 at 11:16 pmTed is right – This country should be lead by people with a moral grounding. Vote Democratic.
November 2nd, 2006 at 11:39 pmHe said something to the effect that he did not buy sex from that man…
November 2nd, 2006 at 11:50 pmGay relationship, sure, but what is the definition of sex? Isn’t it lovemaking between one man and one woman?
barfly – Is that the Crow Almondine or the Sherry Crow?
November 2nd, 2006 at 11:50 pmWait, he’s a fag????
November 2nd, 2006 at 11:54 pmI just saw Ted on the news.
HOLY MOSES. Ted has my official gaydar machine pinging so loudly that the needle is off the screen. Most gay people, including myself, have a pretty good idea who’s gay. Not always, but a majority of the time. This guy appears to be gay.
I really find it hard to believe that no one questioned his sexual orientation. It appears that this hooker has the goods on Ted as he has voice mails, and other incriminating evidence.
Outing has become so much fun. I just love to see these homosexual hypocrites being caught with their pants down.
I suppose Ted will say he’s an alcoholic. Nice try! I suppose Ted might say he was molested by a priest. Nice try!
When male evangelists’ hair is just a bit too perfect, red flags should waving. This guy must spend hours on his hair.
John
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:13 amWhen, oh when, are we going to wake up and start taxing these phony churches and the racketeers who run them?
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:27 amRUCerious:
Mag-pie!
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:32 amI watched this Conservation Go Go Girl for Jesus, and his
longwinded denial of the story. One look at those swollen,
large, wornout lips, and doesn’t take rocket science to
figure out what the story is. Another selfserving rightwing
evangelical, that would lock up the openly Gay, just for
being Gay, and then striking up the Band, playing the ol’
Meat Popsicle. At least there is no indication of him playing
the Sex Organ in the All Boys Sunday School Band. Yet.
These american christian types have made a total mockery
of Jesus Christ, and his Church. Sellouts to the Political
Beast, and all for money from that Faith Based FingerBang
they were more than happy to fall for. Oh well, as long as
the Queers can’t get married, the Republic is secure. And
so is Fruitcakes multi million dollar tax free offering plate.
I bet Dobson’s crotchless panties are in a real tizzy about now.
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:39 amAnother example of being part og the Grand Ol Pervs. LIES LIES and Hypocracy.
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:45 amMy Election Night Theme song, in honor of all the ‘moral’ Republicans who infest our lives-
“The Harder They Cum, The Harder They Fall….One and All” (apologies to Jimmy Cliff for the title modification)
Seriously, I’ll be quite interested to see how this affects the voting dynamics. This, on top of Foley, is going to reverb in the election. Certainly, Colorado and in the Bible Belt states. The heart and soul of Republican GOTV plans have got to be pissed and discouraged with Republican politicians. Do they sit it out, vote for some other Dominionist Party? Talk about voter suppression effects, this one’s a beaut. I’m thinking another 2-3% delta on all the races.
I’m a practicing agnostic, but the timing and magnitude of this makes me wonder if there’s a god after all….
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:54 amJust because I like a good trainwreck, I checked out Freeperville to see what the hive was thinking-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1731060/posts?q=1&&page=151
From an obvious RNC minder:
o: dogbyte12
Colo Sprgs is an important spiritual gateway for Evangelical North America. Even us Canadians recognize that.
Spiritual warfare, folks.
Has anyone already mentioned that all roads lead to Travis County… ? Where’s Dan Rather in this hehe. C’mon this is as bogus as it gets.
What would any decent Christian leading a 14k member church and battling the enemy on the ballot box do in this case?
First, step down. Second, fight the good fight.
This is a last minute smear effort by the DNC campaign machine. DNC has seen the latest internal polling data which shows that Evangelicals will carry yet another electoral win for the GOP. Just about every church is advertising VOTE VOTE VOTE on their billboards and you and I know the church is promoting to vote the culture of LIFE which equals GOP.
Don’t get destracted, folks. Pray and be obedient.
But here’s another post that I think represents where a lot of these people are right now-
To: dogbyte12
It’s probable that Haggard did it. My prayers are mainly for the members of his church and other churches, that they look to God for guidance instead of these jerks.
I hate to say it, but I’m getting quite disillusioned by all these scandals. We need to get back to our conservative roots and away from the cultish nonsense that has crept into the Republican party.
What ever happened to small government, to fiscal responsibility, and other conservative values that we used to hold dear?
I think we’ve been had. It’s about time we stand up for ourselves.
160 posted on 11/02/2006 9:22:51 PM PST by alconservative (Uphold the Constitution.)
Of course, many think it is a DNC plot, but krikey, at some point you need to start asking the tough questions about the Party that you support….
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:08 amThis is SO funny
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:20 amYes, ol’ Ted is now going off to ponder his future of being a gay bashing heterosexual homosexual by seeking spiritual guidance. You know, he’s going to lock himself in a room for a few weeks and talk to himself pretending to be talking to and receiving life saving advice from dead people and an invisible man floating in the sky. Damn, that last sentence is proof alone just how twisted these evangelicals are.
Well, Ted, go hire a expert spin publicist. Then make a tearful pronouncement (ala Jimmy Swaggart) telling all how you were seduced by Satan, weakened by alcohol, clouded by crystal meth, conned by an overaged male prostitute into having sex with him for, not an hour, not a day, not a week, not a month, but for 3 YEARS! Maybe you should have seeked advice from an expert on hooking up with male prostitutes while you visited the White House, Jeff Gannon.
You’re not alone Ted. The Lutheran minister that married my wife and me just over 19 years ago was caught in an investigation into anonymous gay sex happening in local parks. He was literally caught in the act of performing oral sex on a young male. Of course he was a pillar of our community, married with 4 children and a complete hypocrite! Needless to say they were humiliated and she immediately filed for divorce. The only reason he married us is because my wife went to that church when she was younger. She has since acquired a better sense of reality and hasn’t been associated with that (dis)order or any other since. Upon learning of her former pastor’s indescretion, I just shrugged my shoulders and thanked goodness that I am an atheist.
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:22 amThe more GOPers that get OUTED for hypocrisy, before Tuesday, the more chance the Democrats have of retaking the House and Senate! OUT every last Republican in the Congress > good riddence to all of them!
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:25 amOrganized religion was invented by men wanting power.
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:55 amIt’s never been about God or morality.
i think 30 million whacko evangelicals finding out they have been led by a homosexual gives republicans a snowball chance in hell of retaining congress
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:24 amThis is typical. The creeps that scream the most anti-gay epeithets are ususally self-hating gays. Even truer among evangelics.
November 3rd, 2006 at 7:06 am“Organized religion was invented by men wanting power.
It’s never been about God or morality.”
Comment by Nell+Reece — November 3, 2006 @ 1:55 am
I can’t agree that ALL organized religions were begun for this reason, but it sure looks like today’ “evilgelicals ” use it for this purpose. Even as a child, I was deeply frightened by what I instinctively saw as hypocrisy and lies spewed by zealous preachers. I thought they were going to snatch me away from the safety of my parents and hurt me!
I am a Christian (United Church of Christ) because I believe in the love, acceptance, and forgiveness we can offer others through the collective power of a group, as well as through individual outreach. But one certainly need not belong to a church to accomplish such things.
November 3rd, 2006 at 7:57 amThis is not about an “evil sexual side”#23 Eargy Earp. It is about a breach of faith. It’s about ones actions not being consistent with ones talk. It’s about hypocracy. It’s about dishonesty. It’s about being a liar. It’s about breaching trust placed in you. It is about not being trust worthy. It is about not practicing what you preach. It is about gaining power and wealth by bamboozling others. It is about a con artist.
It is about being like the rest of the Bushco supporters!
Remember to vote. It is your duty to your Country.
November 3rd, 2006 at 8:01 amYou just can’t trust holy-rollers at all, can you?
Religion is a con. Stop falling for it.
November 3rd, 2006 at 8:40 amOuch! It really hurts when that Karma runs over your Dogma.
November 3rd, 2006 at 9:02 amI like that Think Progress has this story list under the category of ‘Social and Economic Justice’.
Justice feels good.
November 3rd, 2006 at 9:23 amMaybe some of the coverage has to do with the fact that since the President wants to ‘dance with the one that brung yaâ€.
According to the Wall Street Journal on 6/21/2005:
Ted Haggard, the head of the 30-million strong National Association of Evangelicals, jokes that the only disagreement between himself and the leader of the Western world is automotive: Mr. Bush drives a Ford pickup, whereas he prefers a Chevy.
That’s dancin’ pretty close!
November 3rd, 2006 at 9:46 amRRRRRRUMBLE!!!! I live 70 miles North of the Teddy Epicenter in Colorado Springs and can feel the earth shake….. SCARY!!
Wonder what Karl, Dubya and Dickie Boy are going to do with that weekly Hotline to God now? Maybe invite Mr. Dobson (or Mark Foley) to have an intervention?
November 3rd, 2006 at 10:02 amJesus was tolerant of the woman caught in adultery and understanding of the situation that she was in. He was virtually silent on the issue of “homosexuality” perhaps because it was a non-issue for him. He was the paradigm of compassion to anyone who recognized his or her own weaknesses. His moral code was based not on telling others what to do or how to behave but on how to love others. He was judgemental on only one matter – hypocracy. That seems to be a lesson frequently lost by our brothers and sisters on the religious right. Thank God I am weak and gay.
November 3rd, 2006 at 10:34 amWhat exactly will it finally take for the people who make up the religious right to clearly understand that they are being led around by nose. Their religious leaders, most of whom are in-bed with right-wing republicans, apparently are morally and ethically bankrupt, and are selling them into the conservative army of hate and fear. Please join with me and vote democratic on November 7th and help return ethics and real morality to America.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:04 amI’m here. Sorry, I’m late to you’re party, I just saw this story in the paper and knew I had to come back and take a few hits. Yesterday, I thought this story was thin, because it seemed like it was based solely on the allegations of the prostitute and timed to leave little ability for the pastor to respond, before the election. But, if the guy is going to resign, it might as well be an admission of guilt. This story is not thin; it is thick. ThinkProgress was right about this story. If the pastor is guilty of using male prostitutes on Saturday night and preaching about the evils of homosexuality on Sunday, it is hypocritical. Sincerely; nice work TP.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:08 amSelf hatred is a powerful thing.
When there is no self love or self acceptance, the door to the closet is always locked. Always.
But it’s a shame to see so many gays and bisexuals like Crist, Foley, and this preacher, choose a political or religious/political profession where they often have the power to turn moral decisions into legal ones, for the rest of us.
It’s like a politician who keeps a secret that his father is black, saying Katrina hurricane victims are just welfare losers and black people are sub-human and criminals.
It’s like a jew who changes his name from Reisenbaum to Reese, joins the wasp country club, and starts running his mouth about how jews are greedy and own hollywood.
Actually, it’s worse than all that. I’m trying to find a suitable comparison and I just can’t.
Because when you advocate that your neighbor, who is law-abiding, tax-paying, with morals and values, who was born into a family who accepts him, who might even be raising a family of his own,…is not just a rotten person, but is AGAINST GOD, and insinuate that he/she cannot get into heaven, is incredibly damaging. I mean, where do you go from there? How do you even hold a dialogue?
As badly as african americans were treated in this country, even at their lowest point, beaten and deprived, humiliated and unable to keep a spouse, own anything, or sit next to anyone white,……I’ve never read they the were told they couldn’t get into heaven.
I mean, can you imagine?
That is really why this issue will never go away until it is solved. Because we all know what the foundation of Republican and Christian opposition is. It’s not a reasonable debate between civil unions and marriage, or whatnot. It’s about hatred of gays, which of course ties into their own self hatred, and the way they were raised. It’s about the refusal to give another human being the dignity they deserve. Even when that human being is your own son or daughter.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:43 amWell, the male prostiture guy failed a lie detector test. Are you still going to assume guilt? Like you don’t for CLinton, Kennedy, Reid. . . .
Oh, I forgot. Lefties are liars and hypocrites.
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:44 pm#128
Way to go, paul. Nice when people don’t just talk the talk.
Admitting error is such a humbling yet empowering exercise, people should try it more often. If Dubya would try it, it might turn his life around.
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:44 pmWell, the male prostiture guy failed a lie detector test. Are you still going to assume guilt? Like you don’t for CLinton, Kennedy, Reid. . . .
Leaving aside that lie detector tests are notoriously unreliable, are you conveniently missing the fact that Teddy has admitted “indescretions”?
Oh, I forgot. Lefties are liars and hypocrites.
Well, let’s see if you can walk the walk like paul has. You are wrong about this story – Teddy has admitted guilt.
Are you man enough to admit that you are wrong, or are you merely a liar and hypocrite yourself?
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:34 pmoh happy guy, your macho name-calling and hate-spewing are hurting my feelings – that’s all you guys ever do, waah waah waah, stop picking on me…waah waah…..
f’ing d**khead – can’t wait to meet you in public…..
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:51 pmHey Happy + Dude,
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:05 pmWhat’s up with posting on day old threads? Trying to get the last “post” in? Or are you just too chickensh*t to post on current threads?
Just asking…
JONES – 1. A strong, overwhelming desire for anything you indulge in or acquire and never get enough of – money, sex, chocolate, gambling, clothes, etc. Originally referred to addiction to heroin or cocaine.
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:12 pmA “Jones†is a habit or addiction.
You can have a “Traveling Jonesâ€
You can have a “Basketball Jonesâ€
(Cheech & Chong )
You can have a “Keeping up with the Joneses Jonesâ€
Pastor Ted Haggard has a “Mike Jones, Male Escort Jonesâ€
Rev Ted: Don’t “Jones” me with your “Jesus Jonesâ€
Americans are obsessed with gay stories. And they love to see a really famous person go down the drain: Michael Jackson, Mark Foley, and now this guy. I pity you all.
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:20 pmsee this…another link in the chain
http://www.mediatransparency.org/story.php?storyID=57
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:47 pmAll too true. This tracks right along with what conservative and former Nixon counselor and author John Dean’s book, Conservatives Without Conscience talks about, where he meticulously and throughly lays out the hard evidence and the social science that is in play here.
Social dominators and authoritarian followers are the two social profiles of what now makes up the GOP base and has given rise to the the Rove-Bush and GOP ascendancy at the polls, even though the current incarnation of the GOP is 180 degrees the opposite of being conservative, but are instead right-wing authoritarian radicals. Not yet done reading it, but it is truly eye-opening and solid so far.
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:53 pmThe link below connects Haggard and gay prostitute Gannon to the white House via Tim Goeglein, special ASSistant to Bush.
http://www.mediatransparency.org….php? storyID=57
November 3rd, 2006 at 3:08 pmWell, I’m not shocked a bit. Haggard came accross to me as….. well a umm “please pack my fudge” type of guy……..I think he is trying to create a diversion so that catholic priests can continue molesting children so everyone is happy, he gets to have sex with a man and catholic priests get to have the media drawn away from them… Although I don’t think it will work quite well. I guess all pastors and priests are just fudge packed.
Jon
November 3rd, 2006 at 8:52 pmTwo gay adult men having sex: we don’t know who rear ended whom, but I must say, after hearing seeing Mike Jones (the “escort”), I found him an atractive and sexy looking man, and quite “straightforward” and honest about the relationship. Admired his honest when the CNN reporter asked Mike if his expose was timed for the election. Absolutely, he replied. Mike has an agenda (equality under the law for gays) which I find most honorable that that of Rev. Haggard’s hypocrisy. At least the Reverend has good taste in men.
November 4th, 2006 at 1:01 am142-
Tucker Carlson tried to kneecap him yesterday, but this guy handled himself extremely well. He’s comfortable with his sexuality and he came across as forthright. It must blow the minds of Haggard’s evangelical flock to see that the gay guy has the integrity and their closeted meth freak pastor is the deceitful liar.
November 4th, 2006 at 1:01 pmsome one should just aks pastor ted if he put that man’s dick in his mouth.
November 4th, 2006 at 3:50 pmI had never heard of PastorTed Haggard until last week. It took about one millisecond of watching him on YOUTUBE to set my Gaydar bells off by the million. Meth junkie sodomite, hooker obsessed preacher focused On the Anus, nellie ‘ol patriot pastor persecuted Christian Republican bigot.
Stop your hate! Out all hypocrites. End this war on GLBT America. Enough is Enough.
November 5th, 2006 at 5:19 pmWe all make our own decisions and mistakes. Is it really fair to classify all Evangelical Christians in one catagory when one person falls. Not everyone lies, cheats, steals, fools around, ect… and I feel it is not right to say that all Evangelical Christians hypocrits. We all make our own decisions, just as Ted Haggard made his.
November 5th, 2006 at 10:03 pm