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]]> By: Brad Eleven http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1078086 Brad Eleven Sun, 05 Nov 2006 15:22:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1078086 I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was found out that Tom DeLay likes to be waterboarded by gay prostitutes, after having consumed plenty of crystal meth. WTFIU with outspoken hypocrites getting any respect whatsoever? Hey, Tom, shut up and go get your lobbying job already. Please invest heavily in it, to maximize your losses after We The People put an end to the despicable practice of allowing corporations more access to Our Congress than ordinary people. Maybe <a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/brown06282003.html" rel="nofollow">you WERE the Government</a>, but now you're just a pathetically wealthy man in a country with starving people. Have a clue with your steak tartare, won't you? And get off your high horse before we knock you off, you poser for Liberty. Maybe you could find something useful to do in <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/09/real.delay/" rel="nofollow">Saipan</a>. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it was found out that Tom DeLay likes to be waterboarded by gay prostitutes, after having consumed plenty of crystal meth. WTFIU with outspoken hypocrites getting any respect whatsoever? Hey, Tom, shut up and go get your lobbying job already. Please invest heavily in it, to maximize your losses after We The People put an end to the despicable practice of allowing corporations more access to Our Congress than ordinary people. Maybe you WERE the Government, but now you’re just a pathetically wealthy man in a country with starving people. Have a clue with your steak tartare, won’t you? And get off your high horse before we knock you off, you poser for Liberty. Maybe you could find something useful to do in Saipan.

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]]> By: disgrunt » Tom DeLay’s definition of torture http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1068018 disgrunt » Tom DeLay’s definition of torture Fri, 03 Nov 2006 07:59:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1068018 [...] Source: Think Progress Posted by Michael Kolanos Filed in Police State [...] [...] Source: Think Progress Posted by Michael Kolanos Filed in Police State [...]

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1067473 JPark Fri, 03 Nov 2006 04:55:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1067473 By the way, why are we discussing what a convicted criminal has to say anyway? By the way, why are we discussing what a convicted criminal has to say anyway?

]]> By: JPark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1067425 JPark Fri, 03 Nov 2006 04:45:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1067425 #75 What the hell are you talking about? Your black and white situation has never and will never occur. Nice try though. #75 What the hell are you talking about? Your black and white situation has never and will never occur. Nice try though.

]]> By: bronco214 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1067385 bronco214 Fri, 03 Nov 2006 04:36:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1067385 This country puts Ollie North, Newt Gingrich and Tom DeLay on TV as senior advisors. Makes me want to puke. And then I think back and remember that the MSM did the same thing with Nixon while he was still alive. Liberal media, my ass. One more time, according to the Soviets, waterboarding is an effective means of extracting a confession. That does not mean that you will get any useful information, just that a prisoner will sell their mother down the river to get you to stop. This country puts Ollie North, Newt Gingrich and Tom DeLay on TV as senior advisors. Makes me want to puke. And then I think back and remember that the MSM did the same thing with Nixon while he was still alive. Liberal media, my ass.
One more time, according to the Soviets, waterboarding is an effective means of extracting a confession. That does not mean that you will get any useful information, just that a prisoner will sell their mother down the river to get you to stop.

]]> By: NorMan http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1066692 NorMan Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:04:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1066692 Looks like DeLay's been reading the dictionary again. Looks like DeLay’s been reading the dictionary again.

]]> By: Douglas G. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1066634 Douglas G. Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:44:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1066634 #54, I appreciate your honest response. I don't in any way approve of torture, but to be honest, that I would never want to be in the position of having someone in MY custody that I KNEW, beyond the shadow of a doubt, was personally familiar with a terrorist plot. Technodaoist, no I haven't waterboarded anyone, nor do I plan to. I was just asking what I believed to be a legitimate question. #54, I appreciate your honest response. I don’t in any way approve of torture, but to be honest, that I would never want to be in the position of having someone in MY custody that I KNEW, beyond the shadow of a doubt, was personally familiar with a terrorist plot.

Technodaoist, no I haven’t waterboarded anyone, nor do I plan to. I was just asking what I believed to be a legitimate question.

]]> By: DanielK. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1066479 DanielK. Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:55:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1066479 51, torture doesn't give any more reliable information than simply asking. It's not truth syrum. If you torture an innocent person, they'll lie to make you stop. If you torture someone who has real information, THEY'LL lie, so you will stop and they can avoid telling the truth. Our soldiers overseas were tortured a lot in the past 50 years and seldom revealed more than name, rank, serial number or mis-information. <em>It just doesn't work.</em> It's probable that you'll get better results by winning the prisoner over. That's how far I'd go. 51, torture doesn’t give any more reliable information than simply asking. It’s not truth syrum. If you torture an innocent person, they’ll lie to make you stop. If you torture someone who has real information, THEY’LL lie, so you will stop and they can avoid telling the truth. Our soldiers overseas were tortured a lot in the past 50 years and seldom revealed more than name, rank, serial number or mis-information. It just doesn’t work. It’s probable that you’ll get better results by winning the prisoner over. That’s how far I’d go.

]]> By: WestCoast http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1065892 WestCoast Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:09:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1065892 Waterboarding not physically harmful??? i think its best he try it just make sure his right about that... Waterboarding not physically harmful??? i think its best he try it just make sure his right about that…

]]> By: DaveM. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1065847 DaveM. Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:02:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1065847 Being waterboarded is simply a "frightening" experience. It's kind of like going to a haunted house, you see. If you want to experience something similar to waterboarding, just go walk through a haunted house. Hell, we should just put a pumpkin in the corner of the jail cell that is being used for waterboarding and call it a Halloween Festival. Being waterboarded is simply a “frightening” experience. It’s kind of like going to a haunted house, you see. If you want to experience something similar to waterboarding, just go walk through a haunted house.

Hell, we should just put a pumpkin in the corner of the jail cell that is being used for waterboarding and call it a Halloween Festival.

]]> By: Dave M. http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1065835 Dave M. Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:59:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1065835 Waterboarding isn't torture, it just makes the person being tortured believe they're going to <i>die from drowning. Apparently, part of being a conservative means believing that giving someone full reason to believe they're going to die on a table in a jail cell is not at all disturbing in any way. Because of how conservatives understand the world, they are incapable of understanding that psychological torture is torture, even though there are no physical wounds being inflicted. They don't understand the complex nature of human beings, and are incapable of knowing or caring about the results of their actions, unless those actions have </i><i><b>direct, visible consequences</b></i>. So, <i>as former representative Tom Delay understands the world, no harm has been done because there is no harm being seen with his own eyes.</i> Waterboarding isn’t torture, it just makes the person being tortured believe they’re going to die from drowning.

Apparently, part of being a conservative means believing that giving someone full reason to believe they’re going to die on a table in a jail cell is not at all disturbing in any way. Because of how conservatives understand the world, they are incapable of understanding that psychological torture is torture, even though there are no physical wounds being inflicted. They don’t understand the complex nature of human beings, and are incapable of knowing or caring about the results of their actions, unless those actions have direct, visible consequences.

So, as former representative Tom Delay understands the world, no harm has been done because there is no harm being seen with his own eyes.

]]> By: Uncle_Ho http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1065723 Uncle_Ho Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:35:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1065723 I would pay good money to see Tom Delay water-boarded. Someone let me know, I'll bring popcorn. I would pay good money to see Tom Delay water-boarded. Someone let me know, I’ll bring popcorn.

]]> By: Art http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1065550 Art Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:28:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1065550 How about holding you by your ankles and dangling you over the edge of a twenty story building? How about holding you by your ankles and dangling you over the edge of a twenty story building?

]]> By: Zimzone http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1065541 Zimzone Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:26:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1065541 Water runs downhill. DeLay's career is running downhill. Tom DeLay is waterboarding himself. Tom, self mutiliation is a serious mental disorder. Maybe you could plead insanity & spend the rest of your miserable life watching Mayberry, RFD, in the commons area of the institution. In fact, you bear an incredible resmblence to one of the characters who worked at the local garage. Water runs downhill.
DeLay’s career is running downhill.
Tom DeLay is waterboarding himself.
Tom, self mutiliation is a serious mental disorder.
Maybe you could plead insanity & spend the rest of your
miserable life watching Mayberry, RFD, in the commons area
of the institution. In fact, you bear an incredible resmblence
to one of the characters who worked at the local garage.

]]> By: jake3988 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1065410 jake3988 Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:20:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1065410 Lord, I wish someone would waterboard him. Then he could truly decide if it is torture or not. Comment by Lynne — November 2, 2006 Bah. That's exactly what I was going to say. But since you said it first, I'll give you credit. Lord, I wish someone would waterboard him. Then he could truly decide if it is torture or not.
Comment by Lynne — November 2, 2006

Bah. That’s exactly what I was going to say. But since you said it first, I’ll give you credit.

]]> By: Vincennes http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1065191 Vincennes Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:03:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1065191 Torture is listening to DeLay. Torture is listening to DeLay.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-1065004 Marie Thu, 02 Nov 2006 19:54:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/02/tom-delays-definition-of-torture/#comment-1065004 Well, that settles it, Tom Delay pronounced waterboarding as appropriate. Let's see that it is applied to him when he is interrogated about his many criminal dealings. Well, that settles it, Tom Delay pronounced waterboarding as appropriate.
Let’s see that it is applied to him when he is interrogated about his many criminal dealings.

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