Card Blames New York Times For ‘Advertising’ Nuclear Secrets ‘To The World’
Card Blames New York Times For ‘Advertising’ Nuclear Secrets ‘To The World’
This morning on NBC, former White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card excused the Bush administration’s role in posting nuclear weapons secrets on a public web site, and instead blamed the New York Times for having “advertised” the secrets “to the world.”
Card said “it’s important that we recognize the government is doing the right thing” and claimed the government “acted very quickly” to remove the nuclear secrets.
Watch it:
According to the Times, the nuclear secrets have been available for weeks despite an incident last spring when information on how to make tabun and sarin nerve agents had to be removed from the site. Moreover, U.S. officials were warned last week by the International Atomic Energy Association that the information available “could help states like Iran develop nuclear arms.” The web site wasn’t removed until last night, after the Times began its inquiry.
Full transcript:
LAUER: What do you make of this? Who’s gonna get the blame for this?
CARD: Well, you know, this is one of those things that John Negroponte warned us that we don’t know what’s in these documents, so these are being put out at some risk. And that was a warning he put out right when they first released the documents. We pulled them down, and I think the government has acted very quickly, and we’ve pulled them down. I’m a little bit concerned that the New York Times has advertised them to the world, so that more people might see them…
LAUER: What about the timing? Four days before, five days before a mid-term election this report comes out. Do you question the timing of this report?
CARD: Well, I think most things that happen just before an election are designed by someone to have an impact on the election. But I actually think it’s important that we recognize the government is doing the right thing. They shut the website down. They’re not providing information.
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It’s not the criminals fault the store was robbed! It was the cops that busted him’s fault!
November 3rd, 2006 at 10:56 amThey shouldn’t shut the site down, what kind of garbage is that. I thought we were sick of the government not being transparent?
Hiding this information from the public is wrong. Just another example of them sneaking around with “We the people’s” information, which should be available to all.
November 3rd, 2006 at 10:57 am…
They put Nuclear secrets on the Web and he blames the NY Times?
He Said “We don’t know what’s in these Documents“?? and it’s the NY Time Fault at blame?
WoW!
November 3rd, 2006 at 10:59 amFOR THE LOVE OF GAWD!!!!!!!!!!!! DO THESE PEOPLE EVER TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING?!?!?!?!
I mean, the NYT asks about the site, which actually leads the gov’t to finally take the site down , and this is somehow the NYT’s fault?!
These people are insane. Seriously … they need a large dose of Thorizine and a nice padded room.
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November 3rd, 2006 at 11:01 amMatt Lauer has turned into such a right wing tool!
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:03 amRepublicans are effective protectors of the USA?
ROTFLMAOL!
If that as true, how does one explain the nearly 3000 murders and the tens of billions of dollars in damage that was incurrred on 9/11, i.e. when it was The Deciders “most solemn duty” to protect the USA from attack?
If that is true, why is a burgeoning Shiite fundamentalist republic now thriving in Iraq, one which has extremely close and long standing ties to Iran, one which is pro-Hezbollah?
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:03 amThe Republicans simply will not take responsibility for anything they do. They are so averse to responsibility that they will say anything, no matter how bizarre, no matter how patently false, to avoid responsibility. They have no morals. They have no soul.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:06 amLooks like Bad News Friday is right on schedule for the neo-cons. =]
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:07 amCard is pathetic. Also these documents are most likely available cached on Google currently. These jerks are pointing a finger at the NYT? They are shameless lying thugs and they just might hold onto power if they steal this election. Some trolls on other sites say this is Clintons fault, go figure.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:07 amThe sad thing is: there are a lot of people stupid enough to buy into this kind of crap.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:08 amThe chinese must be laughing their asses off now.
CIA agents havent been able to enter that country while US exhibits nuclear documents.
I’m a little bit concerned that the New York Times has advertised them to the world, so that more people might see them…
Now, I am LMAO!
this is one of those things that John Negroponte warned us that we don’t know what’s in these documents
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:08 amBe careful with Negroponte, Lauer or he can pay some guys to put your head in a stick and exhibit it on a highway near Managua. He has experience on that.
And, just in case you don’t know, the info on the site was in Farsi.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:09 amHow is the messenger still alive after being shot so many times?
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:09 amThey don’t call him “Matt Liar” for nuttin’. I quit watching “The Toady Show” decades ago.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:11 amI saw that this morning. Andy Card looked like a deer caught in the headlights and was obviously struggling with his answers (sort of in a “now, what did they tell me to say?” kind of way).
Tool.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:12 amHAS THE CURTAIN FULLY BEEN PULLED BACK NOW…?
I WOULD THINK SO. This is an excellent read from DownWithTyranny blog: an excerpt from a post today called NOBLE CAUSE ( You should read the whole thing…second post down )
“They took a whole country to war. They invaded a sovereign nation. They covered up the truth as our citizens in military service died. And, they continue to deny the hundreds of thousands of deaths of innocent men women and children who only offense was living in their homes in their own country. They were in the way of George carrying out his oil war, his daddy war, his show war for worship and adulation.
We are passing through a veil here. No longer can the media or the people declare that they did not know. What is happening now transcends the tricks and manipulation of facts. What we have now is the very public denial of what we have all seen with our own eyes as fact. The room grows silent. Our jaws drop. This is the sort of spectacle that hits us in the gut. We know it isn’t real. We know that everyone else should know it isn’t real. And, yet we also know that it is conceivable that we cannot stop it. But, we must stop it. We will stop it.
We are at a point in our American experiment when we must understand what is at stake. We must not only vote, but we must guard that vote and insist that it be counted. And, in the face of them not counting it, it is time for us to stand up and solve the problems that come with a leadership run amok. It is time for us to go to the polls. We must turn out the vote, but we must understand that it may take more than that.
How we solve the problem of George Bush remains to be seen. But, that he is a problem, a problem that is plunging this nation into the insanity of despotism is apparent. In a way it is frightening, but in another way it is freeing. The obvious nature of the problem helps us move beyond the sidelines and into the mainstream. We are now the overwhelming majority.
So, stand up and stretch. Straighten up your spine. Don’t hunch over those keyboards, sit up straight. And, by all means don’t even consider giving up now. The lights are on. The boogeymen can’t hide in the shadows anymore. The effort to restrain the beast, the spoiled child who is George Bush begins daily to look more and more like a noble cause.”
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:15 am#9, do tell. How is Clinton to blame for a website established under Bush’s administration?
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:17 amLAUER: What do you make of this? Who’s gonna get the blame for this?
CARD: Well, you know, this is one of those things that John Negroponte warned us that we don’t know what’s in these documents, so these are being put out at some risk.
So… even after being warned about the contents they published it anyway. Screw American politics at this point - sensible leadership around the world is undoubtedly screaming into the phone at us right now. Handing out nuclear how-to’s to the whole world is just stupid. This is very serious damage to our credibility.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:17 amThe incompetent republican government isn’t the problem! Freedom of the press is the problem!
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:18 amLET IT BE KNOWN IF WE ARE EVER HIT BY A NUKE OR DIRTY BOMB IT IS THE DIRECT RESULT OF BUSH AND HIS ILK WHO KEPT THAT INFO UP FOR WEEKS.
FACT!
Spin away condumbs, spin away
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:19 amHitchens runs the NYT?
Weird.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:21 am.
Hold the Press!!!!!!!!!!!
Wait a minute ther Andy, you stated the Admin did the right thing by pulling the site?
Ergo, the admin did the WRONG thing by posting it in the first place.
Cannot have it both way skippy.
This top-secret dangerous info was demanded by GOP Congress over the strong objections of Negroponte who knew it was not safe. Who overuled that concern?
THATS RIGHT GEORGE FAILURE BUSH insisted the site be posted.
Heckuva Job Chimpy
Heckuva job
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:22 amIt’s not the doofuses’ fault that they released the report — it’s the paper that printed it!
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:23 amWell, that’s about the way things are with this “it’s not me it’s - the other guy” adminsitration.
Remember that they also blamed the NYT for printing a report a few months ago that had been widely available on the “internets” before the paper did so.
Repugs were so desperate to find evidence of WMD that they risked national security to make these documents public. How pathetic. They need to be booted out of congress ASAP!
If blaming the NY Times doesn’t pan out, they can always blame Clinton.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:25 amI wish the Republicans will all just hurry up and drink the Kool-Aid.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:25 amSince many terrorists are fluent in Farsi, that fact just makes it that much worse.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:26 amThe Democrats should demand the release of the “risk assessment” done before posting these documents. If there was no assessment done, everyone in the chain of command behind the decision to post these docs should have their security clearance immediately revoked as they are not qualified to handle sensitive information.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:27 amLET IT BE KNOWN IF WE ARE EVER HIT BY A NUKE OR DIRTY BOMB IT IS THE DIRECT RESULT OF BUSH AND HIS ILK WHO KEPT THAT INFO UP FOR WEEKS.
FACT!
Spin away condumbs, spin away
LOL.
So your FACT!!!! is that if we are ever hit, that person/persons, gathered the information from that website for sure. It is impossible for them to have gathered the knowledge from anywhere else.
OK, as long as I know how you base your FACTS!
You could try *Fact, Government kept nuclear secrets on web for weeks!
*Fact, On the web it can be viewed by anyone with an internet connection
*Fact, Some terrorists have internet connections
*Fact, It is possible that a terrorist has gotten their hands on this information.
*Fact, Bush is the president and therefore responsible for what his administration does.
I know it’s just a list of facts, but it least it’s true.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:27 amNBC and it’s right wing Today show shills have become so predictable. I read about this story on the internet first thing this morning, the Today show comes on and you already know that they are going to have someone from the administration giving their side of the story without any thought of what the oposition thinks about the party of of national security. True to form the first thing you hear is lauerr pitching the story along with “we have Andy Card” to explain how these documents got leaked and posted on the onternet. Matt throws a few softballs and the morning crowd watching the Matt Linbaugh show go off to work thinking that all is still well with the world.
Lauerr and his former fluff ball wanabe serious journalist Katie I love myself so much Couric should both stick to what they do best “Fluff stories “.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:31 amSo… even after being warned about the contents they published it anyway.
Comment by Drew Mackenzie — November 3, 2006 @ 11:17 am
And it wasn’t just Negroponte warning them, either. Read the NY Times article. They were warned last spring by UN arms-control officials about information on making chemical weapons. They were warned last week by the International Atomic Energy Agency about the nuclear weapons material. And yet they left the material on the internets. Only when the NY Times asked about complaints from weapons and arm-control experts did they remove the material. Read that last sentence carefully. The NY Times wasn’t even asking directly about the web pages in question, which they might have if they were the first to stumble upon them. They were asking about complaints about the web pages.
Think about it. They obviously didn’t care about this material existing on the internets. Arms control officials were begging them to remove the material but were ignored. They only started to care when it threatened to become a news story that their political base would hear. What are these people thinking? Do they WANT terrorists to know this information?
Top officials in the Bush administration should be tried for treason.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:33 amI wonder if Lauer held up a cue card with the republican answers on it.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:35 amI NEVER watch that show,saves me a lot of anger…grrrrrr
LET IT BE KNOWN IF WE ARE EVER HIT BY A NUKE OR DIRTY BOMB IT IS THE DIRECT RESULT OF BUSH AND HIS ILK WHO KEPT THAT INFO UP FOR WEEKS.
Ahhhh…but the Democrats will be blamed because Bush has already warned us many times that we’ll be attacked if the Dems win Congress.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:37 amFact, to build a nuclear weapon, one only needs to go to the local library.
Fact, if one wished to build a high explosive weapon, one only need visit the local library.
Fact, this was a stupid article, a stupid discussion, a stupid accusation, and isn’t even worthy of the time and effort even put toward this subject. The local library has enough information to build many different types of weapons, with simple household chemicals, let alone exotic weapons with easily purchased items.
This is stupid.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:38 amPardon me, but I’m going down to the basement to make me a nuke. And it’s all the Times fault that I copied the instructions from a government web site.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:38 amWow, that’s neat, I’m glowing in the dark!
Well, that didn’t take long. When I first heard this report, I knew they would find a way to blame it on the NYT. The Times should have just printed the documents instead of contacting the government. Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:39 am“I think the government has acted very quickly”? Acted how? In protecting us against the vile scum that posted this information in the first place?
oops.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:40 amI think we’re missing the bigger picture here, which is why the stuff was posted in the first place.
It seems to me that in their zeal to justify the war on Iraq, they started throwing out anything that would prove Iraq was a threat, without first taking care to see what was in it in the first place. And these are the guys we trust with national security?
Seems that the only stuff the Bushies want to keep secret are things that embarrass them. Everything else is does not require any scrutiny at all. Let’s get some oversight on this gang now!
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:40 amThese people are simply pathetic simpleton fools !
These GOP boobs must not know how to be use ‘The Google ‘or the ‘Internet tubes’( like Senator dumbass Stevens )
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:40 amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M5GK9Na8KU
this if off topic but a good segment to watch. at least it looks like someone isn’t afraid to call it like it is. the race in montana is becoming closer.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:41 am33 - Never knew we had a nuclear physicist in our midst. No need to build a centrifuge to enrich plutonium, we can just pick it up at the 7-11. Wahoo!
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:43 amI called It!
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:44 amLast night “I called it” by saying “be prepared for a full frontal assault on the New York Times by right wing retards”.
This is stupid.
Comment by Douglas G. — November 3, 2006 @ 11:38 am
Yup, what you just wrote is mighty stupid, Douglas. Weapons experts and arms-control officials sure seem to think that disseminating this information is dangerous. Ah, but why listen to the experts? After all, Bush and his followers can always listen to God instead. That is why they don’t need to listen to scientists, economists, military experts, or anyone else.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:46 am33. I’ll agree that this information is probably already out there. For the US govt’ to have it readily available on a website is sloppy at the least and treasonous at the most.
the NY times pointed it out so this admin. blames them and doesn’t look at itself for this complete blunder.
I don’t want them in charge of a boy scout troop let alone the country.
Happy birithday Zooey.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:46 amI stopped watching The Today Show years ago once it had become apparent that more attention was being paid to the hosts’ personalities and appearances instead of their journalistic abilities. Leave that crap to the Fox and Friends crowd.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:46 amThis is stupid.
Comment by Douglas G. — November 3, 2006 @ 11:38 am
And yet here you are.
I guess we can assume you are stupid for being here, commenting on this stupid story on a stupid site filled with stupid people.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:48 amNever knew we had a nuclear physicist in our midst. No need to build a centrifuge to enrich plutonium, we can just pick it up at the 7-11. Wahoo!
Right, because with each viewing of the online document, they would ship you a centrifuge, just so your inane statement could make sense.
/ah, it’s good to be back, work be darned.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:48 am33 - Never knew we had a nuclear physicist in our midst. No need to build a centrifuge to enrich plutonium, we can just pick it up at the 7-11. Wahoo!
Comment by TheToonGuy — November 3, 2006 @ 11:43 am
Wait, ToonGuy, Douglas can’t be a nuclear physicist. Logically it is impossible, because he obviously is quite a bit smarter than the nuclear physicists.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:49 amWhere’s my cheeseburger, Andy?
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:49 am.
33. I’ll agree that this information is probably already out there.
Nope:
Officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency, fearing that the information could help states like Iran develop nuclear arms, had privately protested last week to the American ambassador to the agency, according to European diplomats who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the issue’s sensitivity. One diplomat said the agency’s technical experts “were shocked†at the public disclosures.
The documents, roughly a dozen in number, contain charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb building that nuclear experts who have viewed them say go beyond what is available on the Internet and in other public forums. For instance, the papers give detailed information on how to build nuclear firing circuits and triggering explosives, as well as the radioactive cores of atom bombs.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:50 am.
The IAEA thinks it’s important.
Miserable Failure and his kneepad brigades don’t.
Gee, that’s two opinions, so I should give them equal weight, right?
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:51 am.
They think no one reads the internets, because they certainly don’t.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:52 amThanks for quoting that passage, Grand Moff. Are you still sounding out the words here Douglas? Can you please read post #49 and rethink your stupid comments?
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:53 amLOL, this is like whipping your schlong out on street and then blaming the first person who yells, “Pervert!”
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:55 amDo they WANT terrorists to know this information?
I almost think they do, so they can come back later, after we kicked them all out, and tell us we were wrong.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:58 amNuclear firing circuits.
Everybody get that?
Nuclear firing circuits.
They’re the Holy effing Grail of nonproliferation.
November 3rd, 2006 at 11:59 am.
Then in 1989, according to the C.I.A., North Korea shut down the small reactor, unloaded its spent fuel and extracted enough plutonium to make one or two nuclear weapons. This provocative action was followed in 1990 by steps toward “weaponization” – developing a warhead that would cause the plutonium to explode in a chain reaction. To this end, North Korea attempted to buy electronics for a nuclear firing circuit from an American firm.
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:02 pm.
Grand+Moff+Texan
Nuclear firing circuits.
Everybody get that?
Nuclear firing circuits.
They’re the Holy effing Grail of nonproliferation.
Sure, they have Holy Grail stuff, but do they have the counting to 3 down yet?
“Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out.”
Cause until they figure that out, I don’t see the reason to worry.
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:04 pmAny parent in the United States should see right through this excuse. But then again, many of the people with children these days don’t know the first thing about parenting. They think it’s a frickin’ noun. It is a verb.
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:05 pmConspiracy Theory For Friday
Officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency, fearing that the information could help states like Iran develop nuclear arms,…
Could it be that this neo-con warmonger administration intentionally put this information on an accessible website precisely for the reason that rogue nations will use the information?
This would then give them the justification they need for yet another “war of liberation” against a muslim country, wouldn’t it?
After all, we just conducted war games in the Persian Gulf, a short distance away from Iranian border, which illicited a war game response from the Iranians.
Hmmm. Lots to think about
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:07 pmAny parent in the United States should see right through this excuse. But then again, many of the people with children these days don’t know the first thing about parenting. They think it’s a frickin’ noun. It is a verb.
Excellent, yes, it’s the parents in the United States that are stupid and incapeable. That is why the government needs to lead these poor people who are lousy and have no idea how to take care of themselves or their kids. The Elite who don’t have that problem will take care of it all.
This country should not be based on democracy (What everyone wants) it should be based on what the self proclaimed smartest want, because the rest are really just sheep anyway.
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:11 pmOff topic, but the ABC News web site is running a story about how some Army recruiters have been telling students that the war in Iraq is over, in an effort to get them to enlist.
But, hey, let’s forget about how our Army is crumbling to this sad point of desperation. Let’s forget about the Bush administration deliberately leaving nuclear bomb making instructions of unprecendented detail online, even after being warned about it, which surely must be an act of treason. Let’s talk instead about how John Kerry hates our troops. Right, trolls?
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:11 pmTundra,
The problem there is that IT IS the Elites that have the problem I am describing. Take the Bush twins for example.
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:17 pmIt looks like Douglas G. crawled back under his slimy rock.
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:17 pmSo the documents would still be up there on the web for anyone to see if the Times had not broken the story, and somehow it’s the Times’ fault????? What a bunch of maroons in Washington.
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:27 pmWhat a bunch of maroons in Washington.
Comment by WatchCityDem — November 3, 2006 @ 12:27 pm
They should be tried for treason, either before or after they are tried for war crimes. Heck, let’s just make it one big trial, Nuremberg-style. Get ‘em all in the docket together.
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:32 pmTake the Bush twins for example.
Should each have as much say in what happens as you or I should.
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:32 pmyikes, tundra thinks he’s f’ing nietschze now….
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:35 pmI’m having trouble making heads or tails out of some of these comments.
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:37 pmNow Rice and Bartlett are out claiming that these docs are from this decade.
Nice.
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:46 pm.
yikes, tundra thinks he’s f’ing nietschze now
That badly is how oftenist I write :)
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:51 pmYou know, if I was paranoid, I’d find this all very suspicious. The Military Commissions Act makes it easier to ignore the Geneva convention and opens the door to making US citizens ‘enemy combatants’ in US military courts. At the same time, they’re giving out chemical, biological and nuclear information to anyone who wants it, and the first news agency that breaks the story is accused of impropriety. An ammendment to the Insurrection act signed at the same time as the Military Commissions Act makes it easier for the president to call for Martial Law and takes the governors out of the loop with regard to control of the National Guard units deploying under Martial Law.
They seem to be going out of their way to not only set up domestic terrorists, but also make it easier to declare martial law and give them more powers in the process. The democrats are sure to win back the house and/or senate next week, but it will still be two years until Bush is out of office. If I were a suspicious nutball with a tin-foil hat, I might suspect that in order to keep the democrats from retaking the government and dismantling all the toys the Reps put into place, the Reps will have to move sometime very soon to take over the government under the guise of keeping us safe from terrorists……
…. if I were paranoid of course…. Everyone knows that’s just crazy talk however…….
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:53 pmNightmare never ends.
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:56 pmSeriously though:
What information should the government hide from the public? What information should be available?
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:57 pmI expect the NYT to publish classified info — they have a very strong track record of doing just that (when it hurts Repubs) — but the government? I have to agree, this is complete incompetence on the part of the Bush administration
November 3rd, 2006 at 12:59 pmthis is complete incompetence on the part of the Bush administration
Comment by Concerned Conservative — November 3, 2006 @ 12:59 pm
CC, it is wishful thinking to call it incompetence. Read the story. PLEASE. The Bush administration refused to remove the material even after being warned about it by arms-control experts. They only removed it when a major newspaper contacted them about it. Please explain how this is mere incompetence.
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:03 pmCC, and while you are struggling to rationalize this story, please provide a list of classified information released by the NY Times with an explanation of how it allegedly hurt our country, so I can cut your bogus claims into tiny ribbons.
Open your eyes and quit lowering the bar for your guys.
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:06 pmTake the Bush twins for example
an example of what? they are as RAGING example of bad parenting… They have not been well raised, nor have any other Bush twin first cousins who all, with one exception, seem to have substance abuse probs. and arrest records… (this is in stark contrast to some of their older second cousins I knew growing up who are really cool, well mannered and totally had their acts together, as long as we avoided talking politics, mind you.) Here’s a little story about the twins I heard from a friend who was working at a club… I believe it was actually later reported in the NY Post…
the bush twins don’t tip well… they drink up $5000 of free comped bottle service and then leave a $40 tip… that’s like .008%… So a college student cocktail waitress who would normally have made enough money to pay her bills gets totally stiffed and is broke for a week, but gets to bask in the glory of the sleazy drunken Bush twins illegally smoking cigs in a club.
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:08 pmIs this off topic? Shouldn’t Bush be worried as hell that Jenna and Barbara are at grave risk for alcoholism given the family history? No… the Bush’s neglect of their own children is just like their neglect for our safety.
That’s actually a good question, Tundra.
IMHO, it comes down to two key factors:
If the government is breaking the law, the public should know about it. Period.
Detailed and explicit plans on how to make WMDs should not.
If they have a strategy to actually win a war, the general strategy should be known (and simply “doing what is not working” does not = a strategy).
Detailed tactics, however, should not. That puts troops at risk.
I could go on, but I think you get the point.
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:27 pmWow, that’s neat, I’m glowing in the dark!
Comment by RUCerious
Ha ha ha!!!
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:28 pmYeah, in fact is so easy to make one nuke that you just need huge facilities, extremely controlled enviroments, highly qualified staff and time. Ok, Im going to the library…
Yes, they should, because that is how democracy works.
But, that isn’t the point of my first comment. It was the fact that any good parent would see right through the bull crap excuse Card is giving.
I thne followed that by saying that most people with children don’t know how to parent anyways. The people with children I am talking about are the Elites who don’t parent their kids and let they do whatever they want with no consequesnces, so we end up with people like the Bush twins.
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:29 pmCard continued, “..and I blame Al Gore for all those nasty progressive blogs out there because he invented the internet.”
Question: Who was the NYT reporter/columnist newly elected Bush43 called an asshole under his breath to Cheney?
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:30 pmThe incident was recorded and Cheney added, “Yeah! Big time!”
Please, someone tell me so I can sleep tonight.
What do you call people who defend, and make excuses for, other people who are obviously incompetent? Bush appointees, that’s what!
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:30 pmThis goes along with the awarenes that the Chainee and Co. “War Corporation” (aka War-Mart) has been quietly cheering on North Korea’s developement of atomic weapons.
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:31 pmThe threat or simple imagination of a threat is enough for them to continue justifying their existence. And to justify their weapons, drug and security complexes.
This little event of mis-information about whose fault it is trhat N-secrets having been posted for all web-users to view is part of not just another “fear event” to throw at the American public, but also the beginning of a serious attempt to destroy the web as a vehicle for free speech.
Last (Sunday I believe) week Uncle Deadeye made a sly reference to the adeptness and expertise of his foes in Iraq using the web to get out information in their fight against the occupation.
The Hexagon’s (I have to include the sixth element of the military in America, the civilian political operatives) “new” ministry of propaganda to “correct” mis-information is simply a glossy covering up of the realities of
the situation, they also are talking about how the web is being used by their adversaries.
Their goal will be to undermine and compromise the web, and they will attempt to include those who publish or post dissent in their catch all catagory of “enemy combatant”………
How did this post get from Nuclear secrets to the Bush girls partying? Did I miss something? Did the WAR end? BUSH QUIT?
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:32 pmIf you read my posts, you will see that my point was that they are the product of bad parenting or rather a lack of parenting at all.
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:33 pmWTF?
Andy Card just admitted to the world that this administration put documents on a public web site without knowing what was in them.
What were they thinking?
These idiots must be stopped!
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:33 pmI believe the tile is FORMER White House Chief, so who cares what he has to say now, you’re over and out.
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:39 pmi want to see bar and jen touch their b**bies together on a GGW vid!!
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:40 pmYeah! Big time!â€
Please, someone tell me so I can sleep tonight.
Comment by tablogloid
Adam Clymer
November 3rd, 2006 at 1:52 pmHa ha ha!!!
Yeah, in fact is so easy to make one nuke that you just need huge facilities, extremely controlled enviroments, highly qualified staff and time. Ok, Im going to the library…
Or a whole lot of motivation and a book.
http://www.amazon.com/ Radioactive-Boy-Scout-Backyard-Reactor/ dp/ product-description/ 037550351X
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:00 pmThis really IS like the old Yiddish joke about the man who kills both his parents, then begs the mercy of the court on the grounds that he is an orphan.
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:00 pmthank you barfly
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:02 pmOr a whole lot of motivation and a book.
Comment by Tundra
NO offense…but really doubt it.
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:12 pmI expect the NYT to publish classified info — they have a very strong track record of doing just that (when it hurts Repubs)
Comment by Concerned Conservative — November 3, 2006 @ 12:59 pm
Can you provide links of all the times the NYT has published classified info?
Keep in mind that someone has to provide/leak said classified info to the media in the first place. And, who is in charge?
And while you are at it, look up all the articles the NYT printed about Hussein’s mythical WMD -providing support for Pres Bush’s case for war.
I have to agree, this is complete incompetence on the part of the Bush administration
Well, at least we know you can be honest about that. Not to rub it in, but this one is small compared to the complete mess the Bush administration has made of practically everything they have touched…
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:15 pmOnce again, the Republicans have put their political power ahead of America’s national security. And this time, they may have just given Iran the recipe for a nuclear bomb as a result.
For the details, see:
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:20 pm“Documents of Mass Destruction: GOP Puts Party Before National Security with Iraq Papers.”
If Republicants retain control after this election, the terrorists win. Bush has given them the recipe for nukes.
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:20 pmThe GOP has a long, long history of publicly blabbing about state secrets for political gain. That’s what they did when they created the Cox Report back in 1999.
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:29 pm[…] Think Progress: Card Blames New York Times For “Advertising” Nuclear Secrets “To The World” […]
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:30 pmThis mentality is frightenly similar to what I call the “Tree falls in the woods…” approach to Network / PC security. If there is a vulnerability in my software that allows someone to exploit it, but no one knows about it is that ok?
I teach PC/tech to many people, some of them have been prison corectional officers (yes, I’ve been in Maximum Security) and explain it this way… If there were a hole in your fence, but none of the prisoners know about it, is that okay?
Every single guard I ask this question looks at me like I’m insane and replies with an emphatic “No.” They know bad people do bad things and are ALWAYS looking for ways to exploit the system.
Microsoft has had issues with this approach to security and they gripe just like the govt when they get called on it. Assuming ignorance on the part of the general public is NOT a valid defense, and shooting the messenger does nothing to correct the issue…
Its always easy to do nothing, and boy does this Sadministation take it easy… Of course, you’d have to be competent to correct things to begin with…
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:39 pmWhat information should the government hide from the public? What information should be available?
Should hide: Nuclear secrets
Should not: Information about our Gov’t disclosing Nuclear Secrets
This really should be quite simple for anyone with common sense, but as they say, its “not so common”.
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:49 pmJust remember the Republican mantra on Nov. 7: “Waah waah everything is someone else’s fault”.
November 3rd, 2006 at 2:49 pmI would respectfully request that each and every member of this administration, and all its supporters take a moment.
November 3rd, 2006 at 3:27 pmStand up.
Reach around behind your waist with both hands.
As you pull your arms in toward your body, close your hands in a grasping action.
Did you find ass?
[…] Why do Bush and his Republican cronies care so little for the safety of the American people? Why are they so completely incompetent and corrupt in every single thing they do? Why can’t they ever take responsibility for anything they do? And why doesn’t the Republican Congress care? […]
November 3rd, 2006 at 4:18 pmAh Ah Ah Ah! OH WOW!
Jack Bauer would have brought that website down in 24 hours!!
“Republicans post nuke cookbook on line”:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/ 2006/ 11/ 03/ nukes_for_everyone/
November 3rd, 2006 at 4:31 pmWhat these BushCo fools do not realize is that images of this WEB site still exist in temp files all over the world. Purging all of this information from the net sphere is like emptying the Pacific Ocean with a straw. Why these idiots even considered letting it out is testimony to their incompetence.
November 3rd, 2006 at 9:27 pmTundra, are you saying Saddam couldn’t possibly have had nukes? Yeah, I agree with you.
November 3rd, 2006 at 9:52 pmThe New York Times once again gives aid to the terrorists.
November 4th, 2006 at 3:09 am