All-day curfew in Baghdad.
By on Nov 4th, 2006 at 6:08 pm
All-day curfew in Baghdad.
“Iraqi officials on Saturday announced an all-day Sunday curfew in Baghdad and four provinces, fearing that the expected announcement of a verdict in the trial of former leader Saddam Hussein could inflame nationalist and sectarian passions and escalate the daily deluge of violence.”
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Okay, let me see… They are celebrating Saddam’s impending conviction by forcing people to do the very thing they captured and convincted him for doing – restricting Iraqi’s personal freedoms.
These neocons would be free entertainment were they not hurting and killing so many innocent people.
November 4th, 2006 at 6:16 pmSo, if Iraq is so much better without Saddam, then why would there be violence? Wouldn’t they be dancing in the streets and greeting us as liberators? Hmmmm….
November 4th, 2006 at 6:17 pmMy thoughts and prayers are with the young women and men whom Bush has put in harm’s way, and their families. The same goes for the innocent Iraqis who are also in harm’s way.
But the reach of tomorrow’s verdict and sentencing will extend far beyond the borders of Iraq. In fact, I believe Bush/Rove is counting on it.
Look for what is being overlooked in the next few days as the world’s attention is turned to the violent aftermath of the verdict. Something big is being planned to take place under the radar of public view with this massive of a distraction.
Vigilence is called for.
Meanwhile, I continue to pray that those who know of the crimes of this Administration continue to come forward with testimony and evidence of wrongdoing.
November 4th, 2006 at 6:20 pmIt reminds me of the ramblings of some South American military dictator. He said anyone who doesn’t support democracy will be crushed and destroyed.
What a better way to celebrate the conviction of a dictatorial tyrant than with a declaration of martial law.
Where the hell is my looking glass, who put marijuana in my banana, get me a hustler and some crystal meth.
-GSD
November 4th, 2006 at 6:20 pmUnbelievable,
Remember that chart that was leaked last week – the one from the military showing Iraq on the precipice of chaos?
That’s why.
We are one breath away from splitting that country apart.
Heckuva Job, GWB
November 4th, 2006 at 6:24 pmBnF,
You’re scaring me….
November 4th, 2006 at 6:26 pmWhat would they do if everyone stayed home for the curfew and didn’t riot? That would put a crimp in their plans wouldn’t it? These dictators running our country have no qualms about manufacturing a crisis, but I don’t think they have time to pull one off if the Iraqis don’t cooperate by giving them a rebellion to crush.
November 4th, 2006 at 6:26 pmInteresting times…
a verdict in the trial of former leader Saddam Hussein – -
November 4th, 2006 at 6:28 pmI object, your honor! This trial is a travesty. It’s a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham.
We are one breath away from splitting that country apart.
Heckuva Job, GWB
Comment by trueblue — November 4, 2006 @ 6:24 pm
I think Jason Hendler used the Czech and Slovakia analogy for this… He was all for it, of course.
Since he’s only 39, then he’s eligible to go to Iraq and help out. It’s not like he would get a deferement for education or impregnating a conscious woman… :D
November 4th, 2006 at 6:28 pmI’m convinced the Iraqi martial law test run on Sunday is both a warning to the people of the U.S. to comply with Heir Bush, and practice for the troops that will be used against us…
November 4th, 2006 at 6:30 pmSo I guess that once the curfew is lifted and life returns to “normal” that everyone will be safe!
November 4th, 2006 at 6:33 pmtrueblue,
My response to you did not post… I’ve been losing a few lately. It’s annoying…
November 4th, 2006 at 6:36 pmI was about to say that tonight’s setting, posts, etc, were depressing.
But then here comes SW Bob with a good laugh for the night!
November 4th, 2006 at 6:38 pmIt’s OK, Unbelievable.
November 4th, 2006 at 6:41 pmTP’s going thru’ some growing pains!
Kangaroo Court Sentences Saddam
4th of November 2006
by Jay Randal
The Iraqi Kangaroo Court Judges announce a death verdict for Saddam Hussein tomorrow, to help the GOP in US election, so politics trumps the judicial system!
Saddam was a vile dictator, who abused the citizenry of Iraq to consolidate his hold on power, but the Bush Regime occupation has harmed the Iraqis far worse!
Iraq has degenerated into sewer-cesspool of violence, as mayhem rules over the population, as Iraqis cower in daily fear for their lives and the economy collapses!
Nobody is safe from the extreme anarchy in Iraq, nor do they have any hope of the sinister carnage ending, unless all the US and British troops depart from Iraq!
The occupation is fueling the insurgency, and causing Iraqi Shia and Sunni factions to fight each other over what is left of their nation, so civil-war occurs as well!
The Kurds in the north are opting to form their own nation, which could incite Turkey to wipe them out, so Pres. Bush is responsible for everything bad in Iraq!
( Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Georgia, USA.)
November 4th, 2006 at 6:48 pm#14 – JayR,
November 4th, 2006 at 6:56 pmBush is irresponsible, Cheney and Rummy are responsible.
His guilty verdict will be followed by a disgusting display of republicans dancing in the streets and speaking in tongues.
November 4th, 2006 at 6:57 pmYes lol post 15 Walt > Bush is a irresponsible imbicile > the “Brokeback Mountain” pals Cheney and Rummy really messed up Iraq, but Bush as the figurehead president gets the blame!
November 4th, 2006 at 7:03 pmWith an iron fist and a psychotic mind, Saddam Hussein prevented the Al Dawa and the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution of Iraq (sic!!) from transforming Iraq into a pro-Iranian, pro-Hezbollah, Shiite fundamentalist republic.
Al Dawa and the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution of Iraq are now in charge and will soon have total dominion over Iraq thereby exponentially increasing the power of Iran, a so-called axis of evil.
This is the justice the world gets for the horrific attacks of 9/11?
9/11 + Iraq = Bush’s Shiite Fundamentalist Republic
WTF?
November 4th, 2006 at 7:08 pm[Keywords: Al Dawa, Islamic fundamentalism, terrorism, US Embassy]
If Saddam Hussein is successfully executed soon, the Al Dawa and the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution of Iraq (SCIRI) are going to be quite satisfied.
Al Dawa and SCIRI are no friend to the USA.
Americans should not be happy Al Dawa and SCIRI are in charge.
Why?
The SCIRI and Al-Dawa, the two most powerful political parties in Iraq, are one and the same as Iran.
The SCIRI and Al-Dawa have been based in and funded from Iran for the last twenty years.
The leaders of the SCIRI and Al-Dawa, Abdul Aziz al-Hakim and Ibrahim al-Jaafari, were exiled in Iran during the twenty years prior to the invasion.
This is an oldie but a goody:
Iraq: Bush’s Islamic Republic
By Peter W. Galbraith
Since Saddam’s fall, Shiite religious parties have had de facto control over Iraq’s southern cities. There Iranian-style religious police enforce a conservative Islamic code, including dress codes and bans on alcohol and other non-Islamic behavior. In most cases, the religious authorities govern–and legislate–without authority from Baghdad, and certainly without any reference to the freedoms incorporated in Iraq’s American-written interim constitution–the Transitional Administrative Law (TAL).
Dawa and SCIRI are not just promoting an Iranian-style political system –they are also directly promoting Iranian interest
November 4th, 2006 at 7:19 pmNeo Culpa
By: John Amato @ 12:30 PM – PST
Whenever I read about Dick Cheney’s double, Richard Perle, I shudder. He’s incapable of admitting blame (something this administration does well) for a policy that was immoral and destined to doom from the outset. All these people should rot in hell.
Whenever you hear a Bush Cultist say war was the last thing Bush wanted–send them to this column.
November 4th, 2006 at 7:21 pmhttp://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/04/neo-culpa/
.
Shortly, Saddam will be executed.
Soon thereafter, the US will be expulsed.
Prime Minister al-Maliki has been showing more and more of the sword which is going to chop off the head of the US.
Al Dawa is no friend to the USA.
In 1983, a `suicider’ from the Al Dawa rammed the American Embassy in Beirut with a truck loaded with explosives. Sixty-three were killed. Of these, there were seventeen Americans (Robert C. Ames and Kenneth Haas).
In 1984, hijackers from the Al Dawa party hijacked Kuwait Airways Flight 221 while it was on its way from Kuwait to Pakistan. The hijackers killed two American officials when their demand to release the Kuwait 17 wasn’t met.
In direct reponse to the horrific attacks, Bush empowers an ally of Hezbollah!!
You’re doin a heckava job Butchy!
November 4th, 2006 at 7:31 pmGoods – your citations are good, but I don’t think those isolated instances of terrorism accurately translate into what is happening in the neighborhoods of Baghdad and other parts of the country.
November 4th, 2006 at 8:04 pmWhile Al-Maliki rules with the backing of Muqtada Sadr, there is mounting evindence that the militas are fractioning into smaller sects.
And the Shiia militias hold no sway over Anbar.
To imply that Al-Maliki is in charge of much is over stating big time.
6 – trueblue. do not fear, but seek the peace within. If one believes in such things as Runes, the signs for Iraq are not good. Tyre:struggle; the God of War. Wisdom:Reversed. Joy:Reversed.
Be vigilent, for that which is hidden will be revealed, and it won’t be good for those concealing the truth.
Peace and Blessings.
November 4th, 2006 at 8:41 pm3 and 1/2 years and thousands of lives after pulling down the stupid statue, the ‘liberated’ city has to shut down and lock up to minimize casualties when the Saddam verdict comes out. Mission Accomplished.
November 4th, 2006 at 8:43 pmI do, actually, BnF. (believe in runes)
November 4th, 2006 at 8:48 pmLast night; the struggle with Goods, did you read some runes to come up with your post of the reversed man?
Just wondering.
Dear Progs – For those of you precious, naive types, a visit to the following website may illustrate why jihadists CANNOT be “reasoned” with or appeased – http://www.obsessionthemovie.com (click on “Timelline”).
Have a wonderful evening…..
November 4th, 2006 at 8:53 pmMA,
That Fox crap?
And you believe it?
You poor dear.
November 4th, 2006 at 9:07 pmtrue,
Take it easy on Mighty Hag.
She’s on break from her new job driving the port-a-potty sucker truck, and simply doesn’t have time to post her quality rants.
November 4th, 2006 at 9:11 pmHey, Zooey.
I read the nasty thread from last night.
Ouch.
I also let JPark know what “cold dish” is coming his way!
November 4th, 2006 at 9:14 pm;)
I read the nasty thread from last night.
Ouch.
I was feeling the love last night, true. Not from “What’s-His_Dick,” but from everyone else. Brought a tear to my eye…
I also let JPark know what “cold dish†is coming his way!
Comment by trueblue
Oh crap, what did you tell him? It’s supposed to be a surprise!
November 4th, 2006 at 9:21 pmTold him when he least expected it,
November 4th, 2006 at 9:23 pmWHAM!
RUCerious: To imply that Al-Maliki is in charge of much is over stating big time.
Agreed.
I am not implying that.
You said “rules” not me.
That is far stronger than what I ever wrote.
I focused on the 2 groups:
Al Dawa rules.
The Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution rules.
Not Maliki.
November 4th, 2006 at 9:32 pmTold him when he least expected it,
WHAM!
Comment by trueblue
Actually, I don’t even have to do anything now, do I? Just having him watch his back all the time is revenge enough! Besides, he was such a sweetie last night, that my heart isn’t really in it anymore — but don’t tell him that…if he reads this, he’ll know…if he doesn’t, he won’t. :)
November 4th, 2006 at 9:32 pmRUCerious
Keywords: Al Dawa, Islamic Fundamentalism, Sharia, Iran and Iraq, terrorism, US Embassy attack
Al Dawa has a long history with Iran and with terrorism:
Large Turnout Reported For 1st Iraqi Vote Since ‘58 The Washington Post, June 21, 1980
In another development today, Al Dawa, a clandestine Iraqi fundamentalist Moslem organization, claimed responsibility for yesterday’s grenade attack on the British Embassy here in which three gunmen reportedly were killed.
An Al Dawa spokesman told Agence France-Presse by phone that the attack was a “punitive operation against a center of British and American plotters.”
Pro-Iranian Shiites Held in Kuwait Bombings, The Washington Post December 19, 1983
Kuwait announced yesterday the arrest of 10 Shiite Moslems with ties to Iran in terrorist bombings that killed four people and wounded 66 last Monday at the U.S. Embassy and other targets.
“All 10 have admitted involvement in the incidents as well as participating in planning the blasts,” Abdul Aziz Hussein, minister of state for Cabinet affairs, told reporters after a Cabinet session, United Press International reported.
Hussein said the seven Iraqis and three Lebanese were members of the Al Dawa party, a radical Iraqi Shiite Moslem group with close ties to Iran.
November 4th, 2006 at 10:00 pmjust a slight correction, if i may: a jihadist is merely taking a defensive stance against an occupation.
some have argued, quite successfully, in my opinion, that jihad is a just response to an unjust war.
a jihadist is a warrior and a patriot regarding his or her country vis-a-vis an occupying force…
you can hate them, if you like; but, it might be worth a bit of time to try and at least understand what you hate, no?
November 4th, 2006 at 10:13 pmSoon thereafter, the US will be expulsed.
Comment by Goodscarrier
I doubt it. People in power always tend to reach an agreement while common people die in the streets. Same ol, same ol.
November 4th, 2006 at 10:16 pmthe words of one of the few remaining good lawyers in america, ramsey clark, on the saddam verdict and its impact, from the guardian:
now, if the goal of the bush administration is perpetual warfare and perpetual u.s. presence in iraq, violence there for generations, is actually a good thing, and a preferred outcome….
November 4th, 2006 at 10:30 pmwelcome back, james.
November 4th, 2006 at 10:36 pmJuan C: I doubt it. People in power always tend to reach an agreement while common people die in the streets. Same ol, same ol.
People in power?
To whom do you refer?
Do you think that an agreement will be made between the USA and Al Dawa and the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution of Iraq (sic!!) ?
What about Al Dawa’s and the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution of Iraq’s support of Iran and Hezbollah and refusal to recognize the state of Israel?
Do you have a precedent in mind?
November 4th, 2006 at 10:41 pmhi, trueblue!
here to celebrate the thumping of the bush crime family on tuesday!!! it looks very good at the moment.
November 4th, 2006 at 10:52 pmDo you have a precedent in mind?
Comment by Goodscarrier
Mmmmm…lets see…Reagan and Saddam. CIA and Noriega. Bush I and Saddam. Bush and OBL. Some of those agreements are open and willingly, some of those dont. The truth is that the political class WONT allow a people´s movement to step up into the government, whether it is in US, Russia, Iraq, etc…
November 4th, 2006 at 10:52 pm#38, james risser: Ramsey Clark – said that a death sentence for crimes against humanity would be ‘victor’s justice’ and would fuel violence in Iraq for decades.
Interesting post…….
But who really is the victor in Iraq according to Mr Clark?
Saddam Hussein murdered Shiites.
Shiites fled to Syria and Iran where the splinter terrorist groups were founded and funded solely for the sake of deposing Saddam Hussein.
When Saddam Hussein was killing Iran-friendly Shiites, he was not a problem for the USA.
Now, 20 plus years later, the USA is claiming justice is being done for crimes it turned a blind eye towards?
BTW: There’s not a single ME expert, i.e. paid professional, claiming that the USA is the victor in Iraq.
Iran, almost universally, is regarded as the true victor.
See this oldie but a goodie
The Iranian nightmare
By Michael Schwartz
In 1998, neo-conservative theorist Robert Kagan enunciated what would become a foundational belief of Bush administration policy. He asserted, “A successful intervention in Iraq would revolutionize the strategic situation in the Middle East, in ways both tangible and intangible, and all to the benefit of American interests.”
Now, over two years after Baghdad fell and the American occupation of Iraq began, Kagan’s prediction appears to have been fulfilled – in reverse. The chief beneficiary of the occupation and the chaos it produced has not been the Bush administration, but Iran, the most populous and powerful member of the “axis of evil” and the chief American competitor for dominance in the oil-rich region. As diplomatic historian Gabriel Kolko commented, “By destroying a united Iraq under [Saddam] Hussein … the US removed the main barrier to Iran’s eventual triumph.”
November 4th, 2006 at 10:54 pmnow, if the goal of the bush administration is perpetual warfare and perpetual u.s. presence in iraq, violence there for generations, is actually a good thing, and a preferred outcome….
Comment by james risser
I believe you have hit the nail on the proverbial head, j.
November 4th, 2006 at 10:55 pmLooks like Mighty found a group of people with which she has something in common.
November 4th, 2006 at 10:56 pmGoods, you retard. Iran has one this one you right wing moron.
November 4th, 2006 at 10:57 pmi don’t understand your angle on things, but, wasn’t/isn’t al maliki a member of al dawa? and the SCIRI–not (sic!) as you always say–was certainly an off-the-record cohort of the americans and talibani, and have probably received cia funding for their anti-saddam activities throughout the 1990s?
so, again, i don’t understand at all what you are saying above. needless to say, the usa, in general, and the bush administration in particular, will agree with anyone, anywhere, regardless of philosophy or methodology, when to do so would further their underlying agenda. to say otherwise seems to ignore history, no? the usa suckles at the teet of any beast if to do so adds a dollar bill to the pile…
for example, the usa will allow syria to torture people on its behalf, and you may recall that syria’s stance regarding israel isn’t exactly one that the usa agrees to, publicly.
November 4th, 2006 at 11:02 pm#42, Juan C Mmmmm…lets see…Reagan and Saddam. CIA and Noriega. Bush I and Saddam. Bush and OBL.
Hmmmmmmmmmm….the situation is totally different obviously due to the fact that 150k US troops are in Iraq in a historically unprecedented way.
Plus, the situation is totally different obviously due to the fact that the US does not want to empower Iran, a so-called axis of evil.
Al Dawa and the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution of Iraq are pro-Hezbollah, pro-Iranian, etc.
Are you communicating that an agreement will be made between the US and Al Dawa and the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution of Iraq (sic!!) ?
November 4th, 2006 at 11:04 pm#46 JPark: Goods, you retard. Iran has one this one you right wing moron.
I will show some restraint and give you a chance to re-read my posts.
I am well aware of the victor in Iraq.
Try again.
November 4th, 2006 at 11:07 pmjames, good to see you again. Have you seen “Iraq for Sale?”
Bush has outsourced some basic military functions, like feeding and housing the troops, oh, and interrogating prisoners. Those are on “cost +” profits, so the more things cost, the greater the profits for companies like Halliburton. Instead of an incentive to keep costs down, there is an incentive to increase costs wherever possible. If a truck blows a tire, destroy the truck and buy a new one. No oil filter…buy a new truck. Ordered the wrong stuff? destroy it and buy replacements. All adding to our national debt.
Not the deficit, because the war funding is not included in the budget. That’s how the deficit can shrink while the debt skyrockets – just keep shifting expenditures to supplemental authorizations. Enron accounting.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the war profiteers gain handsomely with a never-ending conflict like the War on Terror. Perhaps, instead of thinking of the Bush Administration as being totally incompetent, perhaps they are super competent. They have done all the right things to guarantee being embroiled in war for years to come. And all the while profiting as the “little people” die.
November 4th, 2006 at 11:09 pmAre you communicating that an agreement will be made between the US and Al Dawa and the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution of Iraq (sic!!) ?
Comment by Goodscarrier
I have one question for you…why is there no bombing attempts against oil ducts?
November 4th, 2006 at 11:16 pmBriseadh na Faire,
Zoo Jr saw “Iraq for Sale” a few days ago. Said it was great — and horrifying.
November 4th, 2006 at 11:17 pmgreetings, BnF,
no, not yet… greenawald (sp?) was on bill maher last night and it sounds good!
i am just trying to figure out what this thread is about and why people think the ‘winner’ in iraq is zero-sum outcome for any one of the players involved…
and why people give the usa the benefit of the doubt and believe that the usa will only enter into agreements with entities that agree with the public ‘persona’ of the usa…
oh well… saturday night live awaits, and then the saddam verdict at midnight, central time…
peace.
November 4th, 2006 at 11:19 pmhi, z!
gotta click…
November 4th, 2006 at 11:22 pmLater, j
November 4th, 2006 at 11:24 pm#51. Juan C: I have one question for you…why is there no bombing attempts against oil ducts?
Why there are no bombing attempts against the oil ducts is a great question.
I have no idea.
November 4th, 2006 at 11:24 pm#52, james risser: why people think the ‘winner’ in iraq is zero-sum outcome for any one of the players involved…
Who is writing that?
Iran is the winner!
There’s not one ME expert that posits otherwise.
Inadvertently, Bush is doing a fine job at re-constructing the Persian Empire.
November 4th, 2006 at 11:28 pmWhy there are no bombing attempts against the oil ducts is a great question.
I have no idea.
Comment by Goodscarrier — November 4, 2006 @ 11:24 pm
English is not Juan’s first language.
You might not want to be such an authoritarian dick about a simple mistake – one meant to belittle him.
This is the second night in a row that you have done this.
Why are you so angry?
Juan- last night Zooey was his target.
November 4th, 2006 at 11:31 pmGoods, you are so incredibly stupid. Persian empire? K. You aren’t being melodramatic are you?
November 4th, 2006 at 11:32 pmJames, Goodscarrier sounds like he is here more to pick fights than discuss. After what he did to Zooey last night, I pretty much pass over his rants. It finally got to the point last night where I pulled a Rune for him. As it turned out, his Rune is MANN:REVERSED. “you have made many enemies and they are ready to move against you.â€
Meanwhile, it’s great to have you back, james. I’ve always appreciated your posts.
November 4th, 2006 at 11:41 pmJuan- last night Zooey was his target.
Comment by trueblue
I know, true. Thanks for the support about by grammar barbarism. :)
Yeah, my opinion is that goodscarrier has a favorite word: Al Dawa. And he likes a lot to read it.
November 4th, 2006 at 11:48 pmSo it’s almost 8:00am in Bagdad.
November 4th, 2006 at 11:48 pmAnyone know when the verdict will be read?
Anytime, Juan.
November 4th, 2006 at 11:59 pm;)
#32 Goodies – The Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution rules.
November 5th, 2006 at 12:03 amNo they don’t if by rules you mean have any coercive influence on Baghdad outside Shia controlled neighborhoods and the southern sectors their militias control.
Your simplification doesn’t cut it when dealing with factions as complex as these.
True:
oh well… saturday night live awaits, and then the saddam verdict at midnight, central time…
Comment by james risser
Anytime, Juan.
;)
Comment by trueblue
Always a lady. :)
November 5th, 2006 at 12:10 amOy.
November 5th, 2006 at 12:12 amit looks as if cnn international will cut into cnn…. there will be a twenty-minute delay from the time the judgment is read until anyone knows anything…
November 5th, 2006 at 2:19 amMabus=sudaM in mirror.
The third anti-christ by nostradamus is about to have a verdict
Century 2, Quatrain 62
Mabus will soon die, then will come,
A horrible undoing of people and animals,
At once one will see vengeance,
One hundred powers, thirst, famine, when the comet will pass.
After the gulf war, Suddam was left standing in Baghdad and people lost interest. The prophecy was not fulfilled because Mabus (sudaM) was still alive. Now with war looming over the middle east, Suddam is now the US’s number one target. He has the chance to fulfill the prophecy, if Bush gets his way. Nostradamus infers that if the third and final Anti-Christ dies, a 27 year war of vengeance will begin.
Century 8, Quatrain 77
The antichrist very soon annihilates the three,
twenty-seven years his war will last.
The unbelievers are dead, captive, exiled;
with blood, human bodies, water and red hail covering the earth.
With all the terror attacks around the globe, it’s not hard to see how 27 years of Arab reprisals could take place. And how Suddam would become the Arabic martyr for revenge. His death may look like the solution to end all hostility’s, but it could trigger decades of terror attacks. I think Suddam may get his chance to play the role of the Anti-Christ (Trickster) after all.
November 5th, 2006 at 3:20 am[...fearing that the expected announcement of a verdict in the trial of former leader Saddam Hussein could inflame nationalist and sectarian passions ... .â€]
But, isn’t that true here in America, and the very reason the Bush Regime manipulated the date of the announcement to be reight before the election?
November 5th, 2006 at 6:04 amEarly coverage has much footage of cheering and celebrating in the streets.
November 5th, 2006 at 7:00 amsome protester’s in his home town but no organized violence as of 07:00 Sunday morning here on the East coast.
I would like to hear one liberal admit that victory in Iraq, a free democratic Iraq would be a good thing. I haven’t because that is not in your playbook and would turn the tide on Tuesday. WE WILL WIN AND WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT!
November 5th, 2006 at 7:43 am#68
I like to see proof of that first – but it must be burning liberals up everywhere if it has you upset. Do you really think your side is the only one capable of a November surprise?
November 5th, 2006 at 7:46 amIn flipping through the three cable networks this morning, Fox and MSNBC lead off with the Saddam story. CNN began with the Haggard lead. What do you think was the bigger story? Which helped the democratic party more. Need I say more?
November 5th, 2006 at 7:48 amWow, talk about messed up priorities. Saddam Hussein is sentenced to death by a free, elected Iraqi government, and all you want to talk about is a gay, drug abusing preacher?
November 5th, 2006 at 8:31 amPersonally, I don’t believe the latest polls either, other than the one showing Harold Ford sinking like a stone – he never had much of a chance. Since you aren’t allowed to use exit polls to suppress Rep voter turnout, you now have to start a few days early to try to motivate your voters. Rep voters have passed through that filter for years, achieving a majority in spite of it, leaving them with a strong, reliable base. Moreover, with Supreme Court Justices delivering for them, as well as strong moves for security and immigration, Reps are getting what they want.
Funny thing is, once a typical Dem voter hears that their candidate is going to win, they stay home. Reps vote rain or shine. These tactics have backfired year after year, yet you keep doing it.
November 5th, 2006 at 8:58 amYou Bush lover trolls are the most pathetic of Nazi goons > Shame on you for supporting the vile despot George W. Bush!
November 5th, 2006 at 9:26 amall you want to talk about is a gay, drug abusing preacher?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — November 5, 2006 @ 8:31 am
No one was talking about you Jason. But it’s interesting that you found this thread interesting enough to post in – twice. Because you did tell me that you only post in threads you find of interest. Therefore, gay, drug-abusing preachers are obviously something taht interest you… Go figure…
November 5th, 2006 at 9:31 amPersonally, I don’t believe the latest polls either, other than the one showing Harold Ford sinking like a stone
LOL… Jason, your true colors are showing again. You only believe in things that support your view point. How rich… and typically inane of you.
Rep voters have passed through that filter for years, achieving a majority in spite of it, leaving them with a strong, reliable base.
Do you genuinely not have any memory of any election prior to 1994? The Dems controlled things for 25 years prior… You guys have only been around for 12 years before making such a mess out of everything that 75% of the people in Mexico, Canada, and the UK think Bush is a danger to world safety. Far more than the soon to be former Saddam Hussein. And only second to Osama…
Funny thing is, once a typical Dem voter hears that their candidate is going to win, they stay home.
Funnier thing is that you’re wrong. I’ve already voted via absentee ballot. And I know a lot of energized Dems that cannot wait to go vote on Tuesday.
Reps vote rain or shine. These tactics have backfired year after year, yet you keep doing it.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — November 5, 2006 @ 8:58 am
Who are you guys, the mailman?
Be ready for a rude awakening on Tuesday Jason….
November 5th, 2006 at 9:37 am#74 Jason M. Hendler: Wow, talk about messed up priorities. Saddam Hussein is sentenced to death by a free, elected Iraqi government, and all you want to talk about is a gay, drug abusing preacher?
CORRECTION: A free, elected Iraqi government which is beholden to Iran, chants Death to America, Death to Israel, which is pro-Hezbollah, and is no loyal partner to the US in the war on terror.
November 5th, 2006 at 9:39 am#61, Juan C: Yeah, my opinion is that goodscarrier has a favorite word: Al Dawa. And he likes a lot to read it.
JPark, Juan C, RUCerious, Zooey, Briseadh na Faire, trueblue, Risse
With the above post and others in mind, I am going to ignore your posts.
You guys are CLUELESS.
Why?
E.g.
Risser wasn’t even sure which political party Al-Maliki is from.
Risser thought the Al Dawa and the SCIRI were probably CIA funded.
The electing of the Shiite fundamentalists in Iraq is the greatest defeat for the USA.
The US is fuct.
Good Luck!
Let’s Take ‘Em Down, HARD
I leave you with this:
Bush surrenders Iraq to Maliki’s death squads
by Ahmed Amr
When the time eventually comes to make historic documentaries about the Iraq war, there is one scene that will leave no doubt about the dark and sinister nature of George W. Bush. The timing is a week before mid-term elections. Along with his senior aides, the president is holding a videoconference with Nouri Al-Maliki – the Prime Minister of Iraq. After an extraordinary public feud, the two men kiss and make up in front of the cameras. But both walk away from the encounter – which was initiated at the request of Maliki – with the understanding that the United States will abandon efforts to tackle the death squads in Iraq.
[snip]
But Maliki didn’t stop there. He demanded more American funding and accelerated training of the very same Iraqi security forces that moonlight as death squads. And, of course, Bush had no other option but to comply with the absurd request to provide American tax dollars to further enhance the criminal capabilities of the militia infested police and army.
[snip]
There is only one problem with this tale of Maliki’s woes. The Prime Minister is the defacto chairman of the death squads – a radical partisan leader who is out to insure Shia supremacy in the new Iraq. Maliki, Bayan Jabr and Moqtada Sadr are cut of the same ideological cloth. They are men who have spent a lifetime in the quest to convert Iraq into a Shia theocracy – by any means necessary.
[snip]
What makes the American hand so weak is Bush’s face. The president can’t very well go public with an announcement that Iraq’s new management is made up of the same parties and militias that are in command and control of the death squads. Because then he would have to explain why the Pentagon and CIA didn’t notice that they were building and training sectarian security forces. Which in turn would lead to questions as to whether the administration gave early sanction to this army of grim reapers in the belief that they could later be controlled after completing their assigned ‘Salvador Option’ chores.
November 5th, 2006 at 9:56 amGoods, while I agree with most of the copy and paste you’ve splattered here, I don’t see how it bolsters your argument that the current Shiia power structure is going to hand the U.S. a defeat. How bout them permanent bases?
November 5th, 2006 at 12:43 pmThe U.S. is going to get caught in the middle of an ever escalating sectarian bloodbath. How is that a victory for the Dawa?
You are absolutely failing to see the strength that the Sunni are bringing to the equation.
#81, RUCerious: I don’t see how it bolsters your argument that the current Shiia power structure is going to hand the U.S. a defeat
Going to?
It already has.
The creation of a democratically elected Islamic fundamentalist republic is precisely the exact opposite of what the deposing of Saddam Huseein was suppose to bring about.
The US was planning on having a stooge like Iyad Allawi Chalabi running Iraq. It was planning to have a liberal democracy thriving in the heart of the ME.
The Al Dawa and the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution of Iraq (sic!!) are not stooges. And Iraq sure as hell is never going to be a liberal democracy thriving in the heart of the ME.
Why?
During the twenty plus years before the deposing of Saddam Hussein, they violently tried to unseat SH and install a Shiite theocracy in his place.
By deposing SH, Bush caused the perfect conditions for the Al Dawa and the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution of Iraq to take the reins of power.
As Peter Galbraith has show, large portions of Iraq is already under Sharia law.
It is over: A burgeoning Shiite theocracy has arisen. The US is fuct. This is not a victory for the US but a victory for Shiite fundies.
#81, RUCerious: The U.S. is going to get caught in the middle of an ever escalating sectarian bloodbath. How is that a victory for the Dawa?
Is going to?
It already is caught in the middle of an ever escalating sectarian bloodbath.
It is only going to get worse.
From above:
the United States will abandon efforts to tackle the death squads in Iraq.
But Maliki didn’t stop there. He demanded more American funding and accelerated training of the very same Iraqi security forces that moonlight as death squads. And, of course, Bush had no other option but to comply with the absurd request to provide American tax dollars to further enhance the criminal capabilities of the militia infested police and army.
November 5th, 2006 at 1:10 pmMeanwhile, back in Iraq:
Saddam verdict deepens Iraq’s sectarian divide
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061105/ts_afp/iraqtrialsaddamsunnishiite
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